INFORMATION: STAND AND PEE
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The scenario is, you use the Gents, but you're fed up using the stalls all the time. Or you don't use the Gents but you wanna be able to stand up while you go. Or you already stand up, you just wanna know how everyone else is doing it. Or you don't wanna stand up, you just wanna know how you could if you wanted to. Or......

For whatever reason, I have collected interesting titbits of information on the subject and thought I be generous with them. Most of the more, er.., shall we say, innovative methods have come from guys on the MtMInFo list. Credit is due.

So, the methods I have heard of (and feel free to tell me of all the ones I've missed out) are


THE FUD

A commercial product available from REI.
The site can be a minefield to navigate, but a product search under the word 'freshette' turned up the right item, together with a photo so you know what you're getting.
It's (at this time) $15, product code WW407267, and they ship to Europe.
If you're in the States, you can also phone 1-800-4840


THE FRESHETTE AND LADY JANE

The freshette is, as far as I can tell, pretty much identical to REI's 'FUD', but I've heard the 'Lady Jane' (uch - what a name!) is more bulky than the freshette and harder to conceal.
Both are available fromCampmor - no search facility, but they're under -> 'personal care' -> 'portable toilets'
They have a paper catalogue (order from the web site), a US phone number: 1-800-campmor, and last I looked the details were:
THE FRESHETTE Product ID: No. 80969-M Price: $19.99
LADY JANE Product ID: No. 80976-M Price: $6.99



THE HOSE: (from a post on the MtMInFo List)

I use the prothesis from Randy Ingersoll and this pee device works great in conjuction with the belt on the dick he sells! I go to the urinal, even with a buddy who doesn't know, and piss with the best of them. I don't even unbutton my pants, only the zipper. Underneath the belt of the prothesis, directly above my pubic bone is my "hose" and it stays there all day without anyone seeing it. It lays horizontally across my pubic bone. Occassionally it needs an adjustment, but what guy doesn't? I'll try to explain, but I'm not real good at this sort of thing.

I cut a 4 1/2"" piece of hose, regular old garden hose. Then I bevel the end so that there is a slight point to it. A good example of a bevel is the end of your testosterone needle if you look really close. I cut the hose to bevel and rasp the existing cut to sand any sharp ends. The "point" shouldn't be an actual point, but rather rounded. When I piss, I pull the hose out of my prothesis and insert it so the rounded end of the bevel almost, (well, sorry guys, but i don't know how else to put it) feels like it is going up you. One hand opens everything up and the other slips the hose in. The flattened part of the bevel forms a seal against your skin so no urine leaks through. Now, words of caution. First do this naked for awhile till you get the hang of it and have a place to shower when you mess up. Then learn to take your pants down, after you master the naked part. Finally graduate to the unbutton and unzip, until, you only need to unzip. Another word of warning, although the hose stays perfectly placed, I find that I need to wear briefs when I engage in any exercises so the hose doesn't plop out my pant leg.

Keep in mind, you are using totally different muscles to pee standing up, so this takes time, but, as we speak, I've pissed in a pop bottle so I didn't have to leave my office to go to the bathroom and didn't spill a drop!!!!!! (your wife or girlfriend will hate that!) By the way, after you piss slightly scrape the hose against you to remove any left over urine and this is better than wiping!!!!

Sounds strange, but has served me very very very well for years. Please write back with any comments or questions. I've known other guys that have mastered this method and go no where without the hose!!!


THE SPOON:

(from a post on the MtMInFo List)

The Device: I use a Gerber children's medicine spoon. I emphasize this brand because it has a square "spoon" that is easist to place over the opening of the urethra. It costs $1 and is available at most drug stores---buy several; you'll need them. The spoon/handle combination is all opaque plastic and is 5"" long with a hollow handle which opens into the spoon.

Prepare the device for usage: At the closed end of the handle, away from the spoon end, take a knife and carve enough plastic off so the the end is flat instead of round. This is to make it so that the drill bit won't skip around which is important. Take a 3/16 drill bit and drill a hole into the end of the handle that you've just carved flat. Try to make the hole as centered as possible. If you drill it off center, your pee stream will deviate to the left or right and you'll have trouble maintaining good aim.

PRACTICE FIRST!: Most of us will have some trouble at first just trying to allow ourselves to pee standing and frequent practice will allow you to get comfortable and confident. Try standing in the shower---naked. Experiment with your stance. I'm most comfortable with my feet about 1 1/2 to 2 feet apart. Hold the device in your hand with the spoon towards your body, facing up. Take the spoon and insert ONLY 1/4"" to 1/2"" inch into your vagina and pull slightly forward until it covers the urethra opening. You won't find the right spot until you practice. The reason for inserting it slightly into the vagina is because it moistens the edges for a good seal and to assure proper fit over the urethra opening. By dragging it slightly forward it repositions the urethra opening to fit nicely inside of the spoon. Experiment with the amount of pressure that you need to hold it against your body and successfully pee---too much pressure and you restrict the flow---not enough pressure and it will leak out of the back and sides of the spoon.

What about that last little bit of pee left in my device when I stop peeing?: When you are completely done peeing and the stream has stopped you will have pee left in the handle because of suction pressure. Gently tip your device down while bringing it forward until you have completely removed it from your crotch. With more practice, you will be able to position your hand over it to conceal it when emptying the last drops. Shake it dry like a man!

Are you ready to aim for the toilet bowl?: Always raise the toilet seat, first. Remember: you can't wave your device around and write your name in the snow. You have to learn to position yourself by moving your body. When my bladder is full, my stream goes farther. I've learned to bend at the knees to control my positioning because just as the stream of a garden hose shortens when the water is turning off so does it when your standing to pee.

Underwear: I've found that it is too clumsy to try to position my device through those tiny dick holes in BVDs. I bought kangaroo pouch briefs by Munsingwear at Sears for $12 a three pack. Jockey makes the same style, called the sport pouch, for twice the price. I can easily and quickly position myself to pee at a urinal because the pouch openining is horizontal and I can fit my whole hand through it. Again I have to point out that I'm successful because I practiced for a couple of months before I ever even put on a pair of briefs while peeing. When i tried it while wearing jeans, I've found that unbuttoning the waistband as well as unzipping is advisable for reliable and easier positioning.

So now you're ready to try a urinal: Head directly to a single stall men's bathroom that has a urinal. Lock the door! Follow all previous directions. Most modern urinals have what is called a "splash guard" which is urinal sides that curve towards you. It conviently conceals what you are doing. When you advance to the multiple stall men's rooms, you may want to practice again in the privacy of a stall. It takes some getting used to when you are aware of others near by. I am now able to use a urinal when others are around but at first, I wasn't able to relax enough to pee. this is common, even with bio-males, and is called "shy bladder" syndrome.

HYGIENE & where do I put it after I pee?: Washing your device is very important! You don't want a painful bladder infection. When you are using a men's room, chances are that the other men will not be paying attention to your actions. When alone in the men's room, I have finished peeing and have kept the device in my hand and rinsed it at the sink. Preferably with soap and water. If someone walks in while I'm doing this---they honestly don't have a clue what it is---I dry it and tuck it down inside of my briefs from my waistband. Sometimes I don't feel completely comfortable so I will just shake it dry after peeing and then tuck it into the hanging pouch of my briefs. But always wash your device with soap and water at least once a day and more often if you can.

Spare Devices: I keep several around in zip lock bags for cleanliness. I keep one in the glove compartment of my truck. Sometimes you'll forget it and it's nice to have a spare nearby. No one will know what it is and what it's for so there is little chance of accidental disclosure and embarrassment.


THE TURKEY BASTER:

(from a post on the MtMInFo List)

I got a turkey baster w/ a flat bulb (mine was from Lechter's, $1.98), and took it apart. I cut up the long part in several places- once about a cm below the ridge (where the bulb is attached), once near the tip to shorten it and make the opening a little wider, and once more, which is a little difficult to explain. I make the first two cuts, and I'm left with 3 pieces-the top, the middle, and the very tip. I throw out the tip, the I stick the middle part through the top part. It should only be able to go through about 2-3 inches. Make marks on the middle part on either side of the top part, and then cut inbetween those marks. put the lower part of the middle part back in the top part (confusing enough??)

Then take the bulb and cut about half of it off, making sure to leave the base intact. Then you can reattach the plastic part (w/ a little effort)

It sounds complicated, but it's actually pretty simple to make, and only takes me about 20 minutes.

It's a little big to keep in your pocket all the time, so I just keep in my backpack (the joys of being a student) and get it out when I run to the bathroom. You can pack it in briefs if you're wearing jeans (it shows a lil much in slacks), although it can get uncomfortable for all day. I usually only do that when I'm on a road trip and have to go into unknown restrooms. I've also used this in crowed bathrooms, and have never been noticed.



LOOK, NO TOOLS!

This is a page a site entitled Future Restroom Ideas Home Page. It may give you a few ideas or it may give you a laugh.
If nothing else, the advice on how to practice should be useful for a beginner. But, well, see what you think.

The site is at http://www.restrooms.org/standing.html.


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