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- Surely someone could have combed his hair before he went on?
-
Is her name
really Sandi? Because he's usually pretty bad with names
- That's a
nice shot of the three of them in a line, it almost makes Sam look
as tall as CJ.
- Go on, say
no, surprise us
- "I'm
gonna win" That was assured
- I wish
they'd put the "Four Weeks Later" bit up earlier, save me
being confused for quite so long
- CJ sounds
very tired getting on to the plane
- Doug? Co-writers are a tricky business, Toby and Sam only just figured out
how to work with each other, you can't expect them to handle other
people!
- There has to
be a graphics department in the White House that could do that
- Like the President
doesn't have enough wrong with him
- If I was the
mysterious annoying bald guy then I wouldn't be too worried.
Toby usually doesn't get on with anyone.
- It's amazing
that Air Force One takes off at all, it's so big. If this is
Air Force One, then what's Air Force Two and Three? Is it like the
Thunderbirds and one is a submarine and one a space station?
- Sam neatly
ruins all of CJ's hard work there, with one childish tantrum. Nice to see
Sam's total drama queen credentials haven't slipped between seasons
at all
- CJ however
does not "anticipate a smooth flight"
- Rob Lowe
photographs well anyway, but he looks great in the black and white
photographs.
- This time
jumping thing is annoying.
- That was an
overly dramatic roll of thunder there.
- Josh was
obviously delayed as Ed and Larry gave him a quick haircut in the
car
- Pumped, but facing the wrong direction
- Hang on, why
isn't Sam wet? Maybe
he was intercepted by the coconut oil and hot towels
- I'm sure
Haiti are very happy with Toby's attitude
- Operation
Swift Fury, there's a nice, non-judgmental name. Good, manly
name for an operation, not Operation Mildly Pissed
- The Haitian
soccer fans are going to be more than a little annoyed about this. The
marines are going to be faced down by one really pissed off
groundskeeper with a rake
- The
President gets clapped for standing up now? I think the Chiefs of Staff are kissing POTUS’ butt
- Yes, but the
possibility of Bartlet killing Oprah is all too real
- Well, that's
blown the dramatic impetus of the Haiti subplot
- If they’re landing, why isn’t anyone else sitting down? Can’t Air Force One afford an air hostess who looks after safety and tells them where the exits are?
- Is that
Josh's Tuesday suit? No,
I think it's the one we thought was his Tuesday suit sometime last
season
- "Totally
bogus", hell there's a communications team at work, full and
proper use of the English language. The
surfer dude poll
- Toby acting
just like me when I'm trying to get a point across to my parents.
Eventually you learn to just wait and let them come to conclusions
in their own time, that or throw a tantrum like six year old in full
view of the general public, that works too
- Joey Lucas
also seems to have had a haircut on the way back from the press
conference.
- That really wasn't
a specific idiot
- This jumping
back and forth is confusing me. I am an intelligent person, I
understand linear narrative. Why couldn't they have used that?
- Josh is such a jackass
- Toby’s so dry he’s almost dehydrated
- Sam sadly
jiving to the disco soundtrack. Sam's
shirt is a bit distressing, despite being gloriously revealing. It's
actually odd to see all the guys out of the office clothes, particularly
Toby
- CJ really shouldn’t bet until she’s grasped when it’s appropriate
- I must be
the most impressively inept person at pool known to man, during a
game I once hit the cue ball, which rolled up to a cluster of three
balls, (any of which I would have liked to hit) jumped all three of
them and potted itself in the corner pocket. CJ has nothing to worry
about
- Yeah,
because no political leader has ever invented a foreign crisis to
divert media attention away from a domestic problem.
- USS Enterprise? Are they kidding me?!
- I'm guessing
the First Lady's pretty warm
- He's writing
in his head. Who needs paper?
- "Great
nation...America" two clearly separate ideas there
- Charlie is
going to shake Toby for cash until his teeth rattle, you can tell.
- The edit
with the break is beautiful
- It's not
football at all, it's
a deposition. There's a bit of a difference, and usually less
padding required
- Who's going to pay for poor Charlie?
Well he's
not going to win that much off Toby playing pool
- Women always do this Josh. Fact of life. Live with it
- There’s a show called ‘Up With People’?
- Ball game?
Again, people, this is politics, not sport, I feel it would
help if they realised that
- There we go,
that's our Josh, "I'm doing it"
- Oh dear. Oh
crap, CJ
- Apparently
she does dare say 'ego', or dare sign it anyway, Kenny was the one
who had to say it
- Sam Rocks! Toby says
nothing here but you can tell that for once he agrees with Sam
wholeheartedly.
- Ah, the
President's being all-American by smoking in the back of a pick-up
truck.
- Ooh, that's smart/casual!Leo
- "Screw
anybody", therefore probably leading to a few more abortions. Leo's
diary is suddenly going to be very full for the next few days.
- Keep saying
that to yourself a few more times Mr. President, you might just
believe it.
- Um, America is not the envy of the world and
America is not at peace with the world. The
laughter was
pretty much my reaction there too, I think even the chickens were
giggling
- Give
Doug (whose presence is still unaccounted for) some pom-poms and he's turn into a bizarre Lex
Luthor/Lana Lang hybrid. With the
little gym skirt and the knee socks! Go Team!
- Sam responds to the snake like an enthusiast
- I bet Josh
really has that polling data
- CJ still worried about the snake
- CJ is freaked by that snake, and Josh isn't
really any happier. I bet it's a
bit of baler twine and not really a snake at all
- Josh slowly works up his anxiety level. Then climbs on the chair like a wuss
- I like Bruno’s turn of phrase.
While I applaud his morale inducing pitchfork
policy, who the hell is this Bruno guy and where does he get off
talking to these people about what they can do with their campaign
like that?
- Everyone
must be really pissed that Stockard Channing has suddenly leapt to
the head of the credits (Rob Lowe aside) after not being on them at
all for the past two years
- Hah, bring on the bizarre and often
un-announced time shifts, I'm ready for them now! (Seriously, it
would have killed them to go linear?)
- That won't
really be giving CJ the morale boost she needs right about now
- The farm is quite pastoral, isn’t it?
- "He
really doesn't that much" just
occasionally, and only in private
- Josh is quite Freudian, isn’t he?
- I don't think that CJ really wanted that
cider much anyway.
- "We
don't talk about our marriages" and that's
part of the reason why Leo doesn't have one any more
- Does the Haitian guy need a pilot for that
'plane or does the USA have to provide that as well? You gotta like
Bezan’s gall
though
- The
President appears to have plenty of room up in New Hampshire
- Can Leo boss
Nancy around like that?
- That joke was funnier when Bernard said it
in the last season.
- Is Leo going to
tell CJ before Nancy briefs the press on Haiti?
- The public needs educating. Desperately. About nearly everything
- Veins seem to be popping up all over Doug’s head
- Oh, right, this is where Bruno and Doug come
from. This is unnecessarily confusing.
- It’s such fun when Margaret shamelessly patronizes Leo.
Bad
Leo.
Margaret thought that she had Leo so
well trained in matters of diary organisation.
- The President was listening at the door
wasn't he?
- That note
from Margaret will be on Leo's desk tomorrow morning.
- Eugh, it looks like someone sneezed red,
white and blue all over the front of that school. Could you imagine British campaigns being run with that ludicrous profusion of flags?
Somewhere there's a frustrated Democratic
convention organiser who would love to use green in the colour
scheme.
- Never argue
with a man with a tuba
- I have no
idea what that gesture of Toby's meant, but it just looked obscene
- Ooof! Josh looks good in jeans
- I love it when Toby starts to change the
signs. He's going to sit there with his
magic marker and do every single one of those signs isn't he?
- They also
like to produce green beans
- Doug's going to get locked in a deserted
broom cupboard soon. Probably the same one they stashed Mandy in for
season two.
- Because presumably Josh can't find his
office on his own
- “I got...” Josh proves Doug’s point
- Josh quietly
wishes they had sent the stripper. Donna
wouldn't have let that stripper into the office and Josh knows it.
- "Agriculture not his field" Ha!
Sorry. That's
turning out to be one hell of a big field, and I can't believe you
laughed at the agriculture joke!
- That
"your people" had me worried for a second
- Do you think
they've ever been asked by a Presidential candidate?
- Nice leather
jacket
- Is it just me or is Sam only a marginally
better liar than Josh?
- "Stretch
my legs," Toby-speak for
"I'm going to go and storm up and down the corridor for twenty
minutes"
- Well done CJ! Thank goodness somebody has the bravery to
tell the President to put a sock in it.
- “I was never supposed to win” So what? That’s akin to those moronic superstars who thing that coming out with “I never wanted to be famous” convinces anyone!
- So it’s her fault he won?
- That's a legitimate response from the First
Lady to that inane statement from the President.
- The staff gang up on Doug using synonyms.
- Torpor's not that big a word
- Sorry for the expense? And if he is, is he going to pay?
- Well, Mr. President, it's about time, it's
just a shame you had to drag everyone into a school room to say it
- You just know that Sam and Toby are going to
have arguments about punctuating that book.
- What break? He’s given them nothing but hard work for weeks and then he belittles it to make smart arse remarks even Bruce Willis would turn his nose up at
- Nice little
echo of dialogue from the pilot there. It's always satisfying when
they credit it us with a two year memory (the fact that I saw it on
Monday notwithstanding)
- I love the way that Babbish is lying in wait behind that pillar.
-
There seems to be a preponderance of bald people on TV recently.
-
Somehow, the little
"Grand Jury in Session" light strikes me as incredibly
funny, and I have absolutely no idea why
- If the jury's
grand, couldn't they have lighting to match? They're going to be in
big trouble if anyone wants to write notes
- Why doesn't
Elizabeth have a middle name? Did she have to give it up when she got
married?
-
I wince whenever I hear Sam's full name. He just doesn't look like a Norman.
-
Donna reminds me of Bitca just after one of her caffeine-fuelled
all-nighters. Not the most cheery of sights.
-
Poor Donna! Whenever I do something complicated like that I always make a
helpful list and the first ting I do is promptly lose it.
This is eerily
similar to the situation inside our house the night before my
first driving test when I discovered I'd lost my paper license. And
Josh is enjoying this way too much
- Sam goes off
to draft his "Josh wanted to be a ballerina" press
release... Somehow I can tell that the ballerina thing is going to be a running gag in
this episode. He'd look sweet in a tutu, don't you think? I would mock
Josh, but somehow he has managed to produce an air of chastened
embarrassment so my effort seems wasted
-
I've just noticed the picture of President Bartlet on the wall of the
bullpen. Is this to help the staff remember who the guy in the strange
shaped office at the end of the hall is?
-
You can just hear the cogs turning here.
-
Giselle! Josh is never going to say anything to Sam ever again.
-
Technically CJ, they're still in your office. You're the one that bounded
out into the hallway.
- Poor Bonnie,
"Ray, Ray, Ray..."
-
Are they co-operating by drowning Rawlins in paperwork? Donna can
barely comment on the contents of the 80 cartons and she sorted them
- I bet it does
work, Leo just hasn't figured out how to use the remotes yet. Perhaps
being in politics removes your ability to operate electronic
equipment, like becoming an R.E. teacher.
"No!" shouts Leo, "Don't use that, I'm taking the adverts out of my Buffy
tapes!"
- Now let's see
Bruno remember Margaret's name
- They do know
Sam's sitting right... Oh damn. Beat me to it.
I love how Sam just seems to be office decoration during this argument.
- That's what
tax is about, if you can afford it they make you pay it
- You don't
think the A-bomb's a little extreme for Congress?
-
Trust the historian, fighting a war on any more than one front is a recipe
for disaster. And don't invade Russia either. That's never worked.
-
That guy has a ridiculous dickie bow on.
- CJ maturely
refrains from punching the air and shouting YES!
- This entire
episode is just an exercise to see how many people the Bartlet
administration can piss off in 42 minutes
- No, that
hair's lovely on him
-
The President is finicky about stationary too, I seem to be in very good
company.
- Well done
Charlie. Charlie's just
pissed that he has to do the typing now
- Oxford,
England, for a lot of Americans, that knowledge is exceptional
- Those glasses
are really good on Sam, but he should remember that the last time he
was blase and arrogant about a meeting with a woman involved he got
his arse kicked on National TV
- Okay, I rarely
(i.e. never) see any potential for het relationships on TV shows, but
seriously, CJ and Babbish are meant for each other
-
What does Josh keep in his backpack? Everyone else seems to use a briefcase.
- I like the
idea of being in favour of fire
- I'm surprised
Mrs Landingham didn't have a lock on that box, and why am I not
surprised that Mrs Landingham was in charge of the stationary
cupboard?
- It's all very
well walking and talking in the West Wing, but they are in the street
now, with cars. This is not a good time to not be looking where you're
going
- He is funny,
Cliff that is. He's not
joking about that, toner cartridges are like gold dust
-
Poor Donna, she can't date Josh because of the office relationship and she
can't date this guy because he's a Republican. Politics is really screwing
her love life up.
-
Where did that Spanish come from?
- Sam ask! How
can they do it?
- That's a
fantastic word, boondoggle
- What did they say?
A 50% chance of rain? The President is basing his decision on a weather
report that basically says that either it will rain or it won't?
- How did that
get to the President? How many people did Sam tell? Blanket
e-mail's a wonderful thing
- That's a cool
little box he keeps his veto stamp in. Probably
made from the infamous wooden sword of St Patrick
- Of course CJ
is right, it's America, Americans love a winner and if you can come
from behind then so much the better
- I wonder who
finally came through with the bottle opener?
- Being the new guy really sucks sometimes. That's
impressively calm of the clerk, usually on your second week you're
still trying to figure out where all the toilets are
- No, pretend
ties aren't the same, whether you pull them open like Tony Bennet or
not
-
Josh is taking his life in his hands here. If he's annoyed Donna recently
(more than usual anyway) then she could have easily strangled him with that
bow tie.
-
I love CJ's dress. Wow, that is a
gorgeous dress CJ's got on
- Yet, it's a horrible
suit on Sam, where's his black tie?
- Yes, it's all
food, and unlike the big French beefsteak tomatoes, it sounds gorgeous.
That food sounded disgusting.
- Do they have
to witness the veto or do they just want to see the stamp?
-
That was a pretty much a fringedweller response to that dumb question -
"It's a dress."
- Open line? The
White House phone bill must be astronomical. Or do you think they have
Congress on Friends and Family?
-
If CJ is freaked by sodium then she should try and get her head around the
Latin for lead, which explains why a plumber is so-called. I loved chemistry
in school, there was always the chance that my fab teacher would let us make
a big bang or a strange smell.
- Charlie's
heading into sign territory here "I really can't talk about
it"
-
I love the big explanatory chart of Congress behind Sam. It's a bit like
those maps of Europe you see in war films where little aeroplanes and tanks
get pushed about by women with sticks.
- Unemployed
steelworker who's working three jobs?
-
Whenever I hear the term "splinter group" I think of the Judean People's
Front. Splitters!
- Sam had a
basset hound? Or is he just pulling breeds out of thin air?
- That's a yes,
or sort of. The question is, is he headhunting Josh?
- Oh, Sherri's
screwed now (I'm assuming she's the kind of Sherri who spells her name
with an 'i')
-
God, another sports metaphor.
- How the hell
is she meant to find time (or want) to call once a day?
- Short list for
what?
- Of course they
went to their own party first, it's their own party, why would they go
anywhere else?
- I didn't think
they had any friends left!
-
I'm a bit confused - when did Charlie ever say that he wanted to be a
lawyer? I thought he just wanted to go to college.
- Or Josh could
learn to stop fiddling with the damn thing and untying it
- Oh yeah, go
CJ! I love it when she does this.
-
Well, reminding the Levis that he has three children when they've just lost
two probably isn't the way to go.
- You know, I was idly wondering if there was a seating plan to the Press Room
just before CJ chewed that guy out for sitting in the San Francisco
Chronicle's place. Must because I've been working my seating plans out
recently.
- "Between
two and four" so, three
then
-
Nice to how well armed the average Texan churchgoer is.
-
Is being a
really crap shot a crime?
-
Since when does Josh not say anything?
-
That's a nice shirt on Sam, it should be Sunday more often.
-
Go Abbey! Reject that retarded, misogynistic dogma!
- Poor Charlie
looks so uncomfortable at that "rushing water" comment
-
You know your day is going to be stranger than usual when you're serenaded
by the President of the United States.
-
CJ killed the President's mood quite effectively there.
- Leo's really
not got the hang of who's serving who in that relationship has he?
-
Why the hell should Donna laugh, Cliff really isn't funny.
- He's in the wrong chair again.
- Toby never
said that!
-
"Check it out" by yelling at Toby.
-
Penny? I thought it was a cent.
- Hey, you ask
anyone who works with a till, you always need more pennies. Our pennies
circulate. Although, thinking about it you never see American prices
set at $-99 do you? It's always $-95
- Sam's
stunned by that fact that inflation affects sweet shops too. Polos
don't cost 10p a pack anymore either, or Highland Toffee bars. In
fact, I'm not even sure you can still get Highland Toffee bars, I
know you can't get proper candy Alphabet Letters, they're all
sherbet now.
I was amazed that the local leisure
center lockers now use £1 deposits. I can remember using a 10p piece,
although that was sixteen years ago.
- Also because
the President tends to make jokes about funny hats, and that never
goes down well
-
You'd think that he would have been given a matching shield this time.
-
Toby is playing "If I can't see you, you can't see me".
-
CJ said "The jig is up!" I'm not the only person that uses that phrase Di,
hah!
- "Our
own", okay, that's Toby's 'about to disembowel someone' face
- What if
they're a three hour trip away!
-
I'm not particularly attracted to Josh, him not being generic and all, but
even I have to admit that he looks really good in those jeans leaning
against the wall.
- "Funnel
people" I can see that being adopted as a fringedweller phrase.
That one's a keeper. I
was quite interested, and Sam makes a very cute funnel person
- Josh was
pissed with her but I suspect he's been busy since then and
forgotten
- Sam's
sweatshirt is really quite dingy
-
I wish my computer would quack when I had email. My
old work one did, and after a few days, it drives you insane
-
No, the little girl was eight.
- Yes, but
there are valid, non-violent uses for an axe, the only thing you can
do with a handgun is shoot people
-
Now is not the time to shout, Josh.
- God, Toby
really knows how to make someone feel a complete heel doesn't he? Ever the consummate
politician, I'd say "way to guilt them Toby", except I
know he meant it
-
This penny thing has really been bugging Sam all day.
- It is a dumb
reason but don't put it that way
-
Rolling Thunder, another macho code name.
-
That piece of news is going to haunt Leo for the rest of his life.
-
"Why did you tell me that?" Duh, so he could win his argument.
- Surely you
can't be responsible if you didn't know what you were bombing
-
I love how the argument peters out when Hoynes and the President realise
that they agree with each other.
- If he hadn't
made some smart arse remarks to Toby?
- Of course
it's not easy, Bartlet's a pain in the arse. I think it's because
he's short, short people have to have bigger personalities to stop
them getting trodden on in crowds
- They
obviously woke Nancy up earlier with the bad news
-
Is Andromeda a planet? I thought it was a star. It's
a galaxy, although I like the "and they think we're doing a
good job"
- That sounds
pretty damn prepared to me
-
That was a practiced swing of the jacket.
-
Military hardware for dummies - "Sea Wolf Class, or big." Sea Wolf, what a
stupid name. Put a wolf in the ocean and I'll show you a dead wolf.
-
Right Said Fred? Where the hell did that come from? Has CJ gone
mad whilst we weren't looking?
- No, it was
deeply comical heart surgery with lots of slapstick and jokes about
rib spreaders
- Why is he
saying "liberal" like it's a bad thing?
- Yep,
seriously, gone totally insane
-
Toby goes whack into his invisible wall again.
- Oliver has
clearly been going on dates with women he's really pissed off
- I share
Toby's highly restrained "not wild about musicals",
hopefully masking some equally shared deep hatred
-
Sam finally gets it!
- Technically,
they've lost it just outside North Korea
- After America, China, and Russia?
-
Don't you wish that you could have seen the incident with Donna and the
seniors?
- They really
don't have an answer do they? Although, luckily, President Bartlet
actually has genuine reasons for wanting to be President (mostly all
the stuff he said to the dead Mrs. Landingham) so I think he'll be
fine.
- They're the
NEA, what the hell else are they there for?
-
I love how both Sam and Toby, ostensibly communication experts, are either
speechless or resort to grunting here.
-
You've got to love the head banging. It's nice to know that someone as
powerful as the President can feel that bad sometimes. The
President's reached the point I used to reach about a quarter of the
way through our (compulsory) triple Accounting lecture. That bit
when your head melts and your brain starts to trickle out of your
ears
- He doesn't
want to be President, Toby corrected many placards to explain that
"Bartlet is the President"
-
Yeah, but don't put your face on a penny because Sam will want to destroy it.
- If they were
selling tickets they could probably get an endowment for it too
- I'm with Sam
on that one, it's a scam
- Well Bruno,
why didn't you say that in the first place?
- Our school
was like that, and we had rats under the floorboards too. They
gassed them all when they took the old (WWII) wooden blocks down (in
about 1992) and there were so many that the builders had to collect them
in buckets
-
By now the President must want to do a Mandy and beat that guy to death with
his shoe.
- Okay that
seemed a really odd place to end. He didn't say "fuck
knows" or something similar and E4 cut it out?
- CJ's going
to regret asking about Camp David, I can tell.
- Who runs the
President's farm whilst he's being the President?
- The
President doesn't argue with his wife, he just tortures the people
around him instead
- Oh well done
CJ! I know I would have cracked long before now. I
had an experience not unlike CJ's, watching an example of Chinese New
Wave cinema (this bodes ill by itself, as does anything dubbed 'new
wave' or 'neo-realism' if you're Italian and have to be different).
It was called 'Sacrifice Of Youth' and during which we lost the will to live.
We survived only because of the ad breaks every 20 minutes
- Hell, buy a
goose
- Indian Indians
or Native American Indians?
-
Josh just made CJ's hate list.
-
No dear, Rome, France. Of course Rome, Italy!
- That "si"
was the sum total of Josh's Italian wasn't it?
-
When was the last time we saw Toby read the newspaper in his office on a
weekday? Usually he's too busy picking at Sam's punctuation or yelling at
somebody stupid.
- No Toby, you
chewed Sam's rug and he's waiting for you to come out so he can
smack you on the nose with his roll of paper
-
Because calling them poor is going to make them feel better.
- Well, the
mind does start to go at that age
-
A degree in room identification? Presumably
you'd pass just by showing up in the right place for the exam
-
I can just see Josh sitting forlornly on a stranger's doorstep in Connecticut wondering where his mother is.
-
Yeah, but look at who's laughing now.
- How does Sam
know that? Is he plugged into the national air traffic control grid?
I think
it's like my Dad and the train timetable, they just know
- They
FedEx-ed
him to Rome? Did they get guaranteed next day delivery?
- That
terrible moment in a conversation when you realise that you're
actually the best qualified person there. It makes you wonder just
how much bullshit everyone else must be talking
- What would
"Indians in the lobby" be code for? Is it like 'Arrrggghh'
meaning 'your wife is big hippo' or 'extra boiling oil please'
depending on where you are?
-
Charlie is grabbing for a lifeline there.
- Nice try
Toby
- That won't
work, the people will get mugged for the mobile phones
- Oysters? Blech.
- Both, then
you have squishy stuffing from the bird and crispy stuffing balls as
well. Although crispy stuffing balls are the best
- Toby got off
lightly on the turkey front. This is the
only way to deal with the President, just make sure that you have
even more useless information at your fingertips than he does
- It doesn't
sound good, it sounds hideous. That thing that the famous French chef
cooked sounded gross too. I don't think the President knows anything
about food
- There are
people out there who are against fixing potholes?
-
This type of useless but strangely invaluable information is why Charlie was
hired in the first place.
-
Shouldn't the Italian charges de affaires (and I know that was spelt
incorrectly!) have an Italian title, not a French one? Yeah, I know it's a
diplomatic standard and everything, but it just sounds wrong.
-
Has the Italian guy tried Amazon?
- Josh is
eternally grateful that he won't have to pronounce that surname
again
-
I love the way that the (arguably) most powerful nation on Earth has
different laws in different parts of the landmass, and can't reach a
consensus on little things like the death penalty.
- Oh god. I
laughed at Sam's statistical analysis joke. Oh god
-
You know, I always wondered how you used the abacus for complicated sums.
Give me my fingers and pen and paper any day. Or if you want the sum in a
hurry, a calculator.
- Just because
he doesn't have the vocabulary to express himself without sailing
metaphors
-
Bruno put in his place in one easy movement.
- If Leo won't
do it, has she tried asking the President? It's not like he anything
better to do, other than bother the Butterball hotline
-
I love the President's prank call.
- Toby's not
allowed to fire paintballs, I bet Sam bruises.
Toby's being mean, pacing helps people think. Has he tried
paperclips and an elastic band?
- Josh seems
to have a lot of important illicit meetings in airport lounges
-
Neat bit of advertising for Starbucks in the back of that airport shot.
-
That's a long time for that bartender to pour that ginger ale.
- What did he
think "fromage" meant?
- Apparently
not. You can understand that CJ might not be on top of a story in a newspaper
that nobody can remember the name of.
-
Toby doesn't seem to know much here.
The highly
informed White House staff at work again
-
Do the military use acronyms instead of, you know, actual words?
- CJ would
have remembered all that
-
So just don't do the thing that makes you feel guilty, dumbass. I teach
eleven year olds who could tell you that.
-
I'd just like to start tonight's feminist ranting by saying that I find the
scene where the President and Leo are worried about how CJ will feel about
the arms deal completely infuriating on several levels.
First of all, how dare they insult CJ's professionalism by suggesting that
she would act in any manner other the appropriate one in front of the press?
We all saw Josh Lyman, Master Politician, go down in flames in front of the
"Socratic wonder that is the White House Press Corps" so they should bloody
well back off. Second of all, if they are worried that CJ (and any other
woman on the staff) will have a problem in selling lethal weapons to a
regime that subjected half of its population to daily torture and abuse,
then maybe *they* should be worried about it too. Thirdly, rather than
wonder about her opinion, nobody in the show actually asked her. Told her it
was happening yes, but gave her no chance to express her opinion.
- Somehow the
first lady is so much more menacing wheeling about the halls like
that. It gives her that nice Bond villain touch
-
A downer cow, that's the cow that never gets invited to all the other cow's
parties because it ruins the mood.
- "UK
tests" well, at least we're the world leaders on something
- "Somebody
needs to teach me about this" says Leo, as he gets up to leave
so nobody can
-
There isn't a real Qumar, but there are many places just like it.
-
Oh, sooner or later CJ's going to blow and it's going to be good when she
does.
- Did the vest
market sue Clark Gable?
-
I can see the President manning that checkpoint quite easily actually.
-
A big yay for all the medieval history that suddenly appeared in the middle
of this episode. God, I miss university.
- He could
study those things, but then he'd know nothing about his own country
-
CJ must be frustrated in an administration like this.
- As a true
life addition to what CJ just said, there is a country in Africa
where a woman is imprisoned and likely to be executed for having a
child out of wedlock. At the same time this country will be hosting
Miss World
- Josh being
the definition of a fish out of water in the WLC lobby. I was just waiting for Josh to do something stupid in that foyer, and I'm
slightly annoyed that he didn't.
-
Oh, I hate *her* on sight. "Special J"? What the hell gives her the right to
give him such a stupid nickname? Just
because you have a god given right to be stupid doesn't mean you
should avail yourself of it ("Special J") or that you
should assume that all people are more stupid than you ("I'm
kidding it was a conference call")
- I would have
taken her up on the shrimp, just to see if she had any
-
"Let me know where you are" Oh, he's in Washington.
- The
Washington Times must have bought a dictionary
-
With Sam's track record for injuring himself, I wouldn't tell him to do
that.
-
And Donna subtly influences international affairs.
-
And quickly, Leo whips out his easel and palette. And
into a big floppy beret and a smock
- On the plus
side, pig farmers will never have had it so good. And revenues at KFC are probably going to go through the
roof.
-
But not for the fish.
- Poor Charlie
-
I'm sure that Josh is very repentant about that Rotarian joke.
- If his Dad's
an elk, then where's Sam hiding the antlers?
- The poor
veterans have absolutely no idea what point CJ's trying to make here.
Hooray! It's a lonely war, but CJ's waging it all the same. CJ
is getting this out of her system a) where it will do the most good
and b) before she has to go and be professional and detached about
it in the press room
- Fringedweller
state of mind, when we know there's a joke in that scene
somewhere...
- They forgot to bring a lot of things from Britain, but they did remember the
big hats.
-
President Bartlet is getting a kick out of being called the High King.
- I like their
attitude, just coming out for the law, not actually doing anything
to get it passed
-
It's a good argument, CJ.
It's a damn
fine argument, unfortunately it's rubbish. Information only helps if
people listen to it, in this case they would just hear "mad
cow" and panic. It happened over here with the petrol thing,
and I can't see America being any more sensible and restrained
- Good man
Charlie
- Surely
prostitution isn't entirely a women's issue?
- I know Josh
well enough to know that he'll get hit over the head whether he
wants to or not
-
Josh should be dating Donna, not getting interested in water-bomb throwing
heinous bitches like her. I'm sorry, but I'm really not very partial to her
already.
-
Oh poor CJ, it's taken her all episode to get to this point, and telling
Nancy plainly and simply "They kill the women" is far more effective than
any long winded speech. How any country that has any pretensions to
democracy could do that really angers me, and what makes me more angry is
that I know that mine has done it.
Okay, so I have a
slight counterpoint on this. I don't for a second disagree with
anything either CJ or Tobin are saying, but on the other hand, surely
the best way to deal with a place like Qumar is to get as many
people from the Western world in there as possible. Build American
airbases, American landbases, hell, build American McDonalds if you
have to and give the Qumaris (or whoever) whatever they want until
they let you do it. Expose them to Western attitudes and Western
women and get these attitudes changed from the inside out. You can't
just walk up to a country and start making demands about the way
they live (see how well that's worked for the US recently) and
they're never going to allow campaigners across the borders. Using
the military as cultural ambassadors may be the only way you'll ever
make things better, and that opportunity is more than worth handing
over a couple of F-15s and a few missiles. Americans can be relied upon to look after American interests first and
it's naive of anyone to expect them to do otherwise, although the moral
point about the guns I completely agree with. They do beat and kill the
women and it's not right, its not fair and it shouldn't be allowed; however,
if you impose your will on someone without their consent then that is
tyranny. It makes no difference if your actions are for these peoples
benefit or of you just don't like them. It is still tyranny and if a
democratic government wants to embark on that kind of thing it is going to
have to change all its letter headings
- God she's
good.
This episode was a gift to CJ's character, highlighting her professionalism
in a situation where every part of her was screaming "I hate this!" I love
Toby's curious hand gesture at the end of the episode, I assume it means "My
heart goes out to you."
-
This episode has had the same effect on me that a Sherri S Tepper novel
usually has. It just makes me want to grab a head of state somewhere by
their lapels and yell at them until they cower in a corner of their office
in sheer terror. Rah.
- It sounds like Josh has to have a babysitter whenever Leo is out of the
office. Mind you, that probably isn't a bad thing.
-
Well, yes, actually.
-
I can just see the transcribers for all the seventeen countries scribbling
furiously.
- If people
are lying now then having them take an oath is not going to make a
difference and you won't know if they're lying or not. Yeah,
but if you can prove they're lying under oath, you can prosecute
- Ooh,
non-linear structure! Tobin must be thrilled
-
Yay! I love Mrs. Landingham, that woman has so much and yet so little respect
for Jed Bartlet.
They've
missed writing for Mrs Landingham haven't they?
- Jed
shouldn't take this the wrong way, but Leo's far too clever to want
to be President
-
Leo, the Master Politician at work in the hearing.
-
That's an honest admission from the FBI guy to Donna.
- Good on
Edith, you go run the country. Her husband was probably crap at it
anyway
-
Oh, that's a nice sweater on Sam.
Ok, I had a
warning about Sam looking 21, but Holy God!!!
-
You know, I can just see a window br...oh, it just did. Nice to know I
haven't lost my touch.
- Her husband
has yet to mention to anyone that he has multiple sclerosis,
presumably they'll get to that part soon
-
Now that's a well-used address book.
- The guy from
Pennsylvania is such a creep
-
"My brain works differently." Tell us about it, Leo. It's what makes us
special.
- So this is
why Hoynes is the Anti-Christ
- Quick on the
uptake too "Are you telling me you have MS?"
- That's it,
Josh, piss off the highly-trained FBI agent by calling him a
woman
- "There's
no amount of money, manpower or knowledge that can equal the person
you're looking for being stupid." Bit of a life-defining
statement for law enforcement there
- Whisky dear,
not Scotch
- Oh, Leo
- I'll tell
you who he is, Cliff Calley is a good man and one who gives a
political party the type of name it should have rather than the name
it has now. Ah, the
obligatory 'Cliff is a good guy despite being a Republican lawyer'
scene
- Just when
Leo had got himself all fired up
-
It seems that Leo's lawyer is suffering from Diminuendo's Disease too, when you
blank out the date of Christmas.
- Spelled his
name right too
-
I bet that frame was a bugger to find. Poor Charlie.
- That was some quiff on the guy in the old painting, pre-dating Elvis by a
few hundred years.
-
You'd think that they would pick guards that were the same size.
- Leo had
Rodney the Marine to overawe people, Cliff has to make do with a
couple of cops he's hauled in from the street
-
They should have seen Leo's grand exit coming a mile away.
- Sam has a war room? They don't let him go in there by himself, do they?
- Late night
CJ?
- I never knew
that either
-
I love the way that they shot the miniature golf joke (now there's three
words you'd never expect to see together), with CJ and Toby hiding behind
the lamps.
- Toby and the
President playing miniature golf. I think we should all take moment
to savour that image
-
I'm amazed that this book isn't making Josh/Donna allegations.
- "Damn,"
thanks for
the support Josh, the women of the America salute you.
-
Josh is asking relationship advice from Toby? Although it is comical to see
him grab at straws there.
If
he's wondering about Amy, the first thing that Josh needs is a
chemical suppressant for his hormones, followed by a heavier
workload
- Either
that's a fake, or Charlie's salary has rocketed in the past few
months
-
No, Charlie will have it framed. After last week's gift, he's probably got
the name of a professional on file somewhere.
-
Margaret doesn't seem to like Jordan much.
- Therefore
holding Bristol, Tennessee up for the condemnation it truly deserves
- I'm guessing
her and Leo's date didn't go well
-
Malcontent, oh nice word.
-
Oh love him, Sam really does have a bee in his bonnet. Great, now I have the
image of Sam in an Easter bonnet. Not much else, mind.
- Toby
discovering the definition of a circular argument, "it doesn't
recognise Israel"
- The
President's favourite movie is 'The Lion In Winter'? Excellent taste!
I love 'The Lion In Winter', despite the fact that I fell asleep during it the
first time Bitca pinned me down and made me watch it.
- Ok, I'll
allow Josh to have this silly romance thing with Amy if it means
that Donna can ruthlessly take the piss
-
Late dates may seem exciting and sexy, but they just mean that you're
grouchy and irritable next day in work.
-
Jordan determinedly hanging on in there to make her point.
-
He would, but his video is broken.
- That or the
forecast was wrong
-
Ooh, clandestine meetings in a library. I'm ashamed to say that I always
wanted one of those.
Given the
number of times I've been lost trying to find stacks in a library I
know, I don't fancy Donna's chances of actually meeting anyone
tonight
- That was an
unfortunate turn of phrase considering their previous relationship
- Now whenever
the President says something CJ doesn't like, she can come back with
the underwear comment. I really
didn't need to be thinking about the President's underwear at this
time of night
- How much
trouble if Cliff going to get into for this? Actually
not much, since it's perfectly legal and his bosses want him to do
it. It's Donna who should be worried
- The
President's right, it's ridiculous
- Not the most
ringing support from Charlie then. "Hunh?"
-
Charlie's helpful "Huh?"
-
But surely Josh wanted to be a ballerina?
- I don't even
want Josh and I hate her with a passion
- Also, she
has an alcoholic drink with a straw in it which is a sure sign of
wussy and pathetic evil
- I see Josh's
strategy. It works out that the woman wakes up next to him, rolls
over, but when she thinks 'what the hell happened' she's thinking
about the conversation they had the night before
-
No, because Sam isn't in the room.
-
You can just see Sam walking the halls of the West Wing one January morning
at 3.30am - "Hello? Anyone here? I'm so lonely!"
-
Ah, the mess set. Built for the special episode and never used since, until
now.
-
No, I'm pretty sure that the President would take some pleasure running up
and down the halls of the West Wing yelling "I'm censured! I'm censured!",
if only to annoy the Republicans.
-
Sam is really obsessing over hiring this guy, isn't he.
- CJ has a
sudden attack of 'West Side Story'
- I swear to
god, it's not my hormones talking, but that vile slapper is
going to break his heart
-
There's something wrong with my TV, meaning that a green light is cast over
the bottom third. Amy, in that light, looks just like the evil witch she is.
-
You can always depend on your best friend to completely catch you out and
infuriate you.
- Okay, Sam
looks like he's about to completely come apart. You get the feeling
he'd rather spend the speech hiding in the bathroom, dashing out
every two minutes because he just has to know what's going on then
running back in to hide again
- That's Lisa?
Sam's Lisa?
- That seems like a pretty logical system.
-
My god, Rob Lowe is gorgeous.
- Oh dear,
what has Josh done?
- That's a nice way to enter a room.
-
I didn't see Sam as a whisky drinker somehow.
-
Sarcastic notes, probably, knowing that President.
-
That's really is ineffectual whiteboard use. They need one of the fantastic
interactive boards that I have. All hail the whiteboard! Saviour of lessons!
- Ooh, I feel
a flashback coming on.
Oh god, unannounced time jumps. Still, bring it on. I'm ready for it.
Aaron Sorkin's Disease, congenital inability
to tell a story by starting at the beginning.
- Don't be
facetious Leo, CJ was asking a genuine question
- Subscriptions
for each member of congress, or just one copy that they
have to pass around?
-
Damn, I missed what was said between Sam, Josh, Toby and CJ until the
polygraph gag because of a false window leakage alarm.
- Yeah, funny
Josh
- CJ doesn't
have a very high opinion of the young women of America, thinking
they'll vote
for the President because they fancy his speechwriter, however cute
said speechwriter might be. CJ
wants to give Sam to the young women of 'Vanity Fair'? She does want
him back doesn't she?
You can understand why the women of Vanity Fair would want him. Mmmm.
- Maybe Sam
didn't marry Lisa because he was allergic to her hair dye. I
thought they didn't get married because he quit his high-flying job
and ran off with Josh to get the President elected
- Gagh! Time jump! Still, I was ready.
- Sam's never
done working
- "173"
Toby just has this information to hand? Particularly since he didn't
know what the commandments were a couple of years ago.
Toby was just throwing out random numbers there.
- Why does
Toby suddenly need pie to think?
Pie always helps me think. As does cheesecake. In fact, I do some of my best
fringedwellings after cheesecake.
- Toby
reorients himself after talking to Donna
- Toby looks
like he's suffering from chest pains, and now that Toby's spoken to
him, so does Josh
-
Where was Abby at that dinner party? Couldn't her helper get her up the
steps in her wheelchair?
- I love the
way it takes a while for that statement to slowly filter into the
President's brain
- The
President marshals his medical forces
-
How could any woman not love Sam?
- You could
say that in ten years you'll have a cure for cancer, but people will
be counting the days. Say 20-30 and give yourself a decent margin
for error
- Didn't
Emily's List specifically raise money for women candidates?
- So she just
gives Josh leave to sit there and ogle
-
I wouldn't say charm, really.
-
I've got two legs from my hips to the ground and,/When I move them
they walk around... 
- Trust me
Charlie, 'moose' is better. 'Moose' is the best sign. I
love the sign for stink.
- Charlie's
entire job revolves around deciding whether or not the President is
serious!
-
Yeah, but only just. Kennedy was speaking in 1960 and they made it in 1969,
but that was only because Russia was trying to do it too. If they hadn't
been in the space race then there wouldn't have been a race.
- Now? Some of
these people are attempting to have lives and Toby will never be
able to find pie at this time of night
-
How dare she slap Josh around the head? Donna should push her down a flight
of stairs.
-
I wonder who cleans the Oval Office? How high is their security clearance?
Is it higher than that of the lunch ladies in the SGC? Or does your level
have to be so ridiculously high that the President has five star generals
vacuuming under his desk?
- There's no
reason why they can't tell people about the cancer, they just can't
do it now
- They've got
Sam and Toby writing the speech, of course they'll do it well
- Josh
managing to get his nose right in CJ's cleavage when he hugs her
-
Toby dances?
- I like Sam's
"okay".
Grab him and throw him on the sofa CJ, you might not get a second chance.
- Ah ha! I've
watched this twice, and in the end had to get Lizard to point it out
to me, but finally I've found the bit where the airplanes come in.
How did you not get the reference, Di? I
have no idea how I missed it, I was probably proof reading this, or
rescuing my fish from the cat,
or typing up the updates page, or just staring gormlessly at Sam and
not paying a blind bit of attention to what he was actually
saying...
-
Heh hem. Rutherford was British...
- That was a
very pretty speech, but "the full resources of the federal
government"? I heard somewhere that roughly twice as many
people suffer from heart disease as suffer from cancer and
researchers in this area get about half the funding that cancer
gets. There are thousands of other diseases and conditions that are
neither heart complaints nor cancer and as their public profile is
negligible their research funding is much less
- He'd backed
that up, right?
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