Cobblers Comments
August 1999
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Ray at 23:59:30 Tuesday August 31 99
Sorry about the disruption folks - normal service now resumed.
Ray at 23:37:49 Tuesday August 31 99
This page will disappear shortly for a few minutes whilst I don my gas mask and shovel out the sh*t ...
WSD at 23:34:6 Tuesday August 31 99
Evening all. Well, quite a day, I think we've all well and truly been wound up! Let's see what sort of apology is printed tomorrow. I don't agree with all the slagging off of Andy Roberts - he is a journalist and reports on the Cobblers as he sees it, not everyone is going to agree with his opinion.
Hartwell Cobbler at 23:17:9 Tuesday August 31 99
Amid all the controversy one rather strange point seems to have gone unnoticed:Atkins, usually full of comment after matches, was to say the least, extremely terse following the game against York. Just a two liner and, it seems, prior to that a rather unfortunate public remark aimed at the directors' box. It strikes me this situation has been left to simmer for too long. My view (and I still stand by it) is that Atkins tactics have been wrong for a long time and that the board should have acted at the critical stage last season when it was patently obvious that we were odds-on to go down. Although I have been (and remain) in all other respects a staunch supporter of the directors, I do differ on this one key issue. Regarding Tony Clarke's comments, the overwhelming number of messages here over the last few months, the chants at the Peterborough game and the comments of numerous loyal fans I have spoken to, all clearly suggest TCMP was indeed reflecting the views of the majority of supporters. To suggest only a handful of misguided "internet nerds" want to see a change of manager is totally misleading. In defence of Andy Roberts, he has acknowledged he earlier misread public opinion and I know he tries to be honest and even-handed in his reporting of the cobblers. We may not always agree with what he says. But, as we know, that's just part of the game. Always has been.
NSB at 23:5:35 Tuesday August 31 99
the conversation is now becoming disturbing
NSB at 23:1:12 Tuesday August 31 99
im surrounded by lunatics
Anon at 23:0:2 Tuesday August 31 99
You wouldn't know a spliff if one was stuck up your arse! Still back to school for you all soon.
NSB at 22:59:1 Tuesday August 31 99
im going to bed i think im hallucinating
NTFC ANDY at 22:57:20 Tuesday August 31 99
atkins in forever that sound great then we will be in europe in the next 4 years.ATKINS IN
nsb at 22:57:12 Tuesday August 31 99
this cant be happening... ray are you on drugs?
Ralph at 22:56:38 Tuesday August 31 99
Why do you lot bother?
NSB at 22:56:7 Tuesday August 31 99
would the fake ray please let the real one free.....
Ralph at 22:54:29 Tuesday August 31 99
What a bloody mess!
NSB at 22:48:12 Tuesday August 31 99
whats that about ray?
WSD at 22:47:44 Tuesday August 31 99
maybe we should begin and back atkins anyway hey Ray
NSB & CH/TCMP FC at 22:47:11 Tuesday August 31 99
Everyone who hates the chron..... lets start a french style demonstration outside the chronics officess tommorow morning in which roads are blocked off and widespread havoc caused around the town.... let everyone know that the offense caused by this article cannot be undone!!
TYWC at 22:46:21 Tuesday August 31 99
I have just written to TCMP offering him my full support. I'm shocked that the C&E has sunk so low. I'm embarassed that I used to write for them. Up democracy! Q Jones, Author.
NSB & CH/TCMP FC at 22:44:8 Tuesday August 31 99
Norwich cobbler: thats a good point!
Norwich Cobbler at 22:37:47 Tuesday August 31 99
NSB & CH -Stevenage is a Borough!
NTFC ANDY at 22:26:53 Tuesday August 31 99
Email me now to join the we want (AiA) Atkins in Association.Lets keep god at the club
NSB & CH?TCMP FC at 22:23:44 Tuesday August 31 99
Norwich cobbler, i hope you are refering to northampton town!!
NSB & CH/TCMP FC at 22:21:16 Tuesday August 31 99
to Anon at 21:21:4 were crying like babies cos the fag slagging us off hapens to be a complete LOOSER!
oops at 22:13:24 Tuesday August 31 99
Babe: Hello I'm sorry I read it, I think you've been rumbled. TCMP It's ok nothings happened, they must have been nerds. TCMP (on phone) Hello Ray I need a censor, do you think you can manage two weeks ago? Babe: You DO NOT want to see what to see what's on the official site...
Barton at 21:33:0 Tuesday August 31 99
I hope thats not aimed at me "Anon", cos i'm not a cobblers supporter (but i do like them!) - i just hate Diremoan$ and all associated with them!
Norwich Cobbler at 21:29:23 Tuesday August 31 99
Norwich Cobbler 'Internet Nerd' here.Mr.Colin james small minded opinions are hardly worth discussing except to say that a site such as this is the ultimate democratic forum with no real censorship and freedom of speech (not like the Chronic!).The forum should be applauded and encouraged - newspapers will soon be history this is the modern newspaper.The Chronic is obviously short of news and its Editor(!) should print a full apology to TCMP or he should sue for defamation of character.As to the football I feel the comment that best describes the current situation is 'cracks thinly covered with paper'.Ian Atkins has not been judged on 2 games this season but on the majority of incredibly bad displays last season.Out style is negative and certainly not promotion material.Surely we want to see our team winning with some style.We do not have the same kind of players and team spirit that saw us up in '97.Ian has got himself a got out of jail card for the moment but wait until we come up against the other promotion contenders - then his style of play will be seen to be antiquated.Two other points of note -1. we think we've got some problems -look at the bottom of Div.1- I don't think Delia is very happy at the moment.If only we'd have beaten Fulham I could have worn my Claret & White down Carrow Road!Fingers crossed for the FA Cup! 2.
Congrats to Richard Hill & Stevenage - perhaps a future Cobblers manager? No money,no crowds and 6 consecutive wins in some style.Well done Richard.UP THE TOWN!!!!
Barton at 21:24:54 Tuesday August 31 99
Who's read "Adams" comments on the Diremoan$ chat page? I think you guys better sort him out!
Anon at 21:21:4 Tuesday August 31 99
You spend years slagging off the board, the chron, the stewards, the manager, the police, the food, each other; and someone has a go at you and you cry like babies.
Barton at 21:14:51 Tuesday August 31 99
I think you're getting a bit "tetchy" there mate!! But i like it! Can i join in?....p*ss off NTFC Andy. And that also goes for an even bigger w***ker - DIAMOND JIM, anyone one agree? (c u later J!)
Carl at 20:57:54 Tuesday August 31 99
rumour, sorry!!
Carl at 20:57:7 Tuesday August 31 99
The reason they have a go at us, the people on the Internet, is the fact that we are a very easy target, and it is very easy to get quotes and general feelings of what MANY fans feel. Calling us all Nerds just makes this twats argument appear, to him, to carry more weight in the press with people who probably don't realise we are all on here having our say. It happened last season as well, if I remember correctly. They just haven't got anything better to do. If we had lost the last two games as well, the paper would have probably agreed with TCs comments. I for one don't read newspapers anymore, because nearly all they write is rumpur mongering and down right bull****. Anyway I had a bloody marvellous weekend, and I am already looking forward to next weekend. And a little advertisement for Big Roys Band Osiris, first time I saw them Saturday night, and they were quite superb, so next time they are local to you give 'em a go, you won't be disappointed!!!! UP THE COBBLERS
Carl at 20:50:40 Tuesday August 31 99
O'Reilly is playing for the Republic of Ireland, and they are one nil down at the moment
NSB & TCMPFC at 20:35:21 Tuesday August 31 99
Well said!
Paddy Cobbler at 20:32:24 Tuesday August 31 99
My old man supported the Cobblers back in the 50's & 60's when he worked in Northampton. I'm Northampton born but Irish bred. Though I don't get to see the games I've supported the Cobblers for as long as I remember. (Did it make it to Wembley twice tho'). Here in Ireland it's virtually impossible to get uptodate news on teams playing in Div 2 & 3. Sites like this one are the main source of news, results and general information for overseas Cobblers like me. Despite what some smug self-satisfied hack has to say about people who use this medium I look forward to paying regular visits to this site. Apart from allowing supporters the opportunity to voice their opinions it does also provide a service to those of us not in the catchment area of the mighty "Chron". To Ray and his contributors keep up the good work. Up the Cobblers.
NSB & TCMPFC at 20:0:27 Tuesday August 31 99
Ive dropped the colin hill out of my name (temporarily) and have replaced it with tony clarke...... he is truly the fans representative on the board!
NSB & CHFC at 19:58:40 Tuesday August 31 99
If i ever meet that #### colin james im gonna punch his ####ing lights out.... long live tony clarke MP! I cannot beleive that we (the "internet nerds") are discriminated against for publicly airing our opinions.... as is our god given right.... Colin james does it in the bloody newspaper and gets paid for it and he has the opinions of a baboon...... The chron will suffer an agonising fate if they continue to diss us as they do.....
Baz at 19:51:16 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray, The Chronicle article has been debated at length today, quite rightly. I thought you might be interested as well in an article that appeared last night in the Northamptonshire Evening Telegraph. I quote "Rushden and Diamonds are offering the chance for fans to visit Old Trafford- home of Treble winners Manchester United.The trip on Wednesday 27th October includes return coach travel,entrance to the Theatre of Dreams Museum and a tour of the stadium including dressing rooms and the players tunnel" I understand the coach leaves and returns from Nene Park. Prices are quoted. Do we really need to say ANYTHING else about R+D"supporters"now. We rest our case!
Ralph at 19:16:54 Tuesday August 31 99
RAY - You asked about chats with Andy Roberts earlier. I have on many occasions, why do you ask?
Ralph at 19:15:59 Tuesday August 31 99
What a bloody mess!
Rushden at 19:15:43 Tuesday August 31 99
for once the chronic was correct!!!! i laughed when i read it lagging of the moaning internet nerds - weststand dave and ray - how big are your phone bills?
LINCOLN THUG at 18:58:43 Tuesday August 31 99
IF YOU COME FROM NORTHAMPTON YOU MUST BE SCUM.
Imp at 18:57:5 Tuesday August 31 99
Squonk - I had been back only your benifactor and general Mary Whitehouse type figure "Ray" saw fit to censor reasonable comments.... whilst anyone else says what they like without fear of censorship. Shows what Northampton Town fans are like - RACIST !
rodney_s.m@virgin.net at 18:56:26 Tuesday August 31 99
The internet, like many other aspects of life, can be a positive thing or a negative one. Some people who use it are sad ******** who need to get a life, others use it to communicate with like-minded people. Certainly, Tony Clarke 's comments have undermined further our already tarnished image/reputation with the club. The timing is poor and whether he speaks for the majority of supporters now that the results have improved is highly questionable. Having met him only once, he seemed to be a typical politician: pompous, fat and opinionated. Time to resign, methinks. I am often highly critical of Atkins, but now is not the time for supporters to rock the boat.
Ray at 18:38:47 Tuesday August 31 99
Ah - but I haven't published it without hiding the true source.
Legal Helpline at 18:29:29 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray, before your legal heavyweights get too far down the road you had better remove the James item from your site. I think you will find that it is also copyrighted.
Ray at 18:18:5 Tuesday August 31 99
As a matter of interest, how many people on here have spoken to Andy Roberts, before during or after a match as a "supporter"?
Ray at 18:16:41 Tuesday August 31 99
I also pointed out to him with particular reference to the verbatum printing of TCMP's posting, and I'll repeat it again here to to ensure that there is no misunderstanding, that any posting made on here become my copyright (see above) and should not be used without my express written permission. My legal advisers are on the case.
Ray at 18:4:6 Tuesday August 31 99
I have just been speaking at great length on the telephone to Mark Edwards of the Chron regarding the "Colin James" article. It was in fact written by Steve Pitts the Sports Editor and WAS intended as a "light-hearted" piece of "journalism". He does accept that the the article was over top and an apology is being published tomorrow together with a selection of the letters that have been received.
Paula Yates at 17:51:28 Tuesday August 31 99
Happy Cobbler - no reply, shame on you....
Anon at 17:50:21 Tuesday August 31 99
What is going on? Will somebody please find out!!!!
Joke/no joke/joke/no joke......
Anon at 17:48:25 Tuesday August 31 99
How the hell is it a joke? In print for all and sundry to read and digest! Does that mean the headline of "Hunt for Pervert" on the front of the Wellingboro ET is a joke too? Dont think so! Seems to me that the old saying you cant believe what you read in the newspapers is true - particularly in the Chron! I do believe that if wit was sh** then Andy Roberts had better get in a rather large supply of laxatives!
grrr at 17:47:33 Tuesday August 31 99
'Andy Roberts' (17.40 below) - clearly not the real one, so push off and take your joke with you.
SBJ at 17:46:20 Tuesday August 31 99
I'm not prepared to believe that 'Andy Roberts' e-mail came from the Chron reporter. Anyway, it's not just about the 'Colin James' article.
Big Al at 17:42:10 Tuesday August 31 99
Poor joke if that is the case given the current climate
Andy Roberts at 17:40:24 Tuesday August 31 99
Sorry, that article was written by me under a pseudonym. Apologies if you didn't realise it was a joke.
Ray at 17:36:21 Tuesday August 31 99
I tried to speak to Tony Clarke but unfortunately he is in London today but is expected back later tonight. It would appear to be a pity if that pathetic rag prevents him from posting on here in the future.
Big Al at 17:35:30 Tuesday August 31 99
Have just read Colin James' report in the Chronic and have felt compelled to reply to him with the following: Dear Mr James
Having read your report in today's edition of the Chronicle & Echo, I feel I must write to you to object at your attack on Mr Clarke.
I am one of these people who use the internet site to which you accuse of being "nerds" and of "spewing out a steady stream of abuse against all and sundry". Have you ever visited the site? I very much doubt it, because if you had you would find that a majority of the discussions that take place, are from people who care deeply about the club and have done so through good times and through bad, and will remain to do so long after Mr Atkins has left and is forgotten.
I for one feel very frustrated that the club seems once again to be heading in the wrong direction and under the guidance of Mr Atkins seems to be adopting an increasingly negative attitude. Mr Clarke himself an avid Cobblers fan can see this too and being the supporters representative feels a need to pass this feeling of frustration to the board. What would you find more preferable? this approach or the more confrontational demonstrations before during and after the game.
I respect the fact that Mr Atkins has done a tremendous job for the club but feel that it is time for him to move on.
One following point that interests me is are you a Cobblers fan? or are you one of the many thousands who flocked to Wembley for the day out? because if the latter applies I would thank you to keep your views/attacks to yourself. Not Happy at all!
SBJ at 17:34:2 Tuesday August 31 99
Forgot to clarify: I understand TCMP's role to be a two-way street - he tells the Board what the fans think, and the Board empowers TCMP to tell us, in more or less detail and with all due respect to confidentiality, waht the Board thinks. Can't see how acting on this arrangement should "damage morale" at the club.
SBJ at 17:30:49 Tuesday August 31 99
The official notice sounds like Mr Stonhill playing by the book: TCMP has, as Barry says, tried to balance his roles of fan's mouthpiece and Board member, and clearly the result has put a bit of a ripple under the bows of the Good Ship NTFC. If TCMP's remit is to put across the fan's view at Board meetings, and he does this (with all due care, as a delicate communication demands) then I can't see that there's a fuss to be made. The Chron is the big baddie here, making a mock scandal out of a balanced and collective opinion expressed by a man who's been appointed to make just such expressions. Another element to consider is the instability of our collective views: when we're losing and playing badly it's clear that "Atkins out" will resurface; when we're winning and playing better, inevitably the "Atkins out" subsides. Personally I'm right behind TCMP if he's putting our collective views across to the other Directors, even if we are a bit fickle as fans. I'm right behind Stonhill and the boys too, as we all are, but this silly situation, with the oh-so-mysterious 'Colin James' and the straight-up club messages strikes me as being just a tad mountain / molehill. More power to TCMP, and a hearty "Come on you Cobblers!" from me.
Vince at 17:28:52 Tuesday August 31 99
It strikes me that Barry Stonhill should be having a go at the C&E rather than anyone else. After all didn't BS publicly confirm his and other Board members concerns at the same time TCMP made his statement?
Anon at 17:25:37 Tuesday August 31 99
To save you going to the official site here is the item:It is with extreme disappointment that everyone connected with Northampton Town Football Club read the article in Monday's Chronicle & Echo wherein Tony Clarke made public his views in respect of Ian Atkins' position at the Club.
Obviously Mr Clarke (and every other supporter) is entitled to his opinion and we fully appreciate that as the supporters representative on the board he has a difficult balancing act between acting as a responsible Director and keeping supporters in touch. However, on this occasion we believe he has severely damaged the general morale of the Club, particularly in light of recent results.
In mitigation the article first appeared on the internet some two weeks ago following the second league defeat of the season when feelings were obviously running high and it is unfortunate that this medium is playing an ever increasing role in our society. However 14 days is a long time in football (and politics) and recent results have proved this is the case.
We are particularly concerned that the Chronicle & Echo decided to run this story at a key time immediately prior to the York City game when recent upheavals at the club were settling down. Surely it is in the interests of all concerned to support the Club during difficult times, not set out to make trouble with sensationalism which is considerably "out of date".
As previously stated on numerous occasions the Board are all supporters of the Club and will continue to act in a responsible manner in what is considered to be the best interests of Northampton Town, despite the odd hiccup along the way."
B J Stonhill
Chairman - Northampton Town Football Club.
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Ray at 17:23:38 Tuesday August 31 99
The article in question by Barry Stonhill was also sent to members of the CobbNews email group. I have written to the club.
Anon at 17:23:18 Tuesday August 31 99
Time to go home now Happy Cobbler else you'll turn into a nerd. :-)
Happy Cobbler at 17:16:39 Tuesday August 31 99
Check out the official site guys and gals. There is a note from Stonhill, looks like he's not happy. I am so fed up with the board saying "we are supporters of the club too". So Mr Stonhill, you enjoyed that crap display against Lincoln in the second half of the match? And you were at York? You did see that game right?
Ray at 17:16:4 Tuesday August 31 99
Its a joke???????? Pretty purile sense of humour if it is. I bet whoever wrote it is an internet nerd.
Rick at 17:12:41 Tuesday August 31 99
Happy Cobbler, you are right, I am a twat. Sorry I will go and climb into my small hole now.
A true fan at 17:12:32 Tuesday August 31 99
This Colin James is meant to be a joke on the Chrons part then? I'm not laughing, and still think they should say sorry!
Happy Cobbler at 17:10:36 Tuesday August 31 99
Rick, no problem, I like to boast about how much better off I am than scum like yourself :))
Ray at 17:10:28 Tuesday August 31 99
For those of you who haven't read it - the article is at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ntfc/james.jpg
POO at 17:9:25 Tuesday August 31 99
POO
Sid at 16:58:30 Tuesday August 31 99
I have just seen what Nat typed up, and i have just spouted my view to the e-mail list. What a disgusting piece to write about someone! So, who is the real Colin James then?
Vince at 16:51:45 Tuesday August 31 99
Having now discovered that "Colin James" does not exist I am sure that the C&E are having a good laugh at all the letters/faxes/emails that have been sent to this character. I'm all for a bit of fun but by printing such an article I think the C&E are doing little more than taking the p**s out of it's readers.
Rick at 16:46:17 Tuesday August 31 99
Happy Cobbler - Thankyou for telling me all about yourself - you forgot to include one thing - how easy you are to wind up.......
Happy Cobbler at 16:35:52 Tuesday August 31 99
Just faxed my letter off to the Chron, I bet they dont respond, it would make them even smaller than they are now! Is there such a thing as a Pro Atkins paper? I think we found one!
Anon at 16:25:31 Tuesday August 31 99
Just copy what Nat keyed in and paste it on any noticeboard site you want - also include the Chrons email address tho, just for good measure..
Sid at 16:23:30 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray, (or anyone else) is it possible to scan this reports and put it on the net for others outside Northampton can see, or type up the comments made by Colin James?
The Cobblers at 16:23:14 Tuesday August 31 99
Thats much better thanks.
Anon at 16:23:8 Tuesday August 31 99
Colin James for prime minister!!
Unknown nerd - previously classed as perfectly normal homosapien - excludes NTFC Andy at 16:21:47 Tuesday August 31 99
Oh dear, Im a nerd... better invest in a notebook, chewed pencil, mac and dodgy glasses! Oh... is that WSD!! Thank you Mr 'Journalist' - now that youve catalogued and pigeon holed the majority of the ppn in one go - whats your next trick? Got a blue pencil like Raymond and delete it all after the event or an abstract apology? The power of the media - well if Bobby Ewing didnt really die and it was all a dream in the shower, Id give it a go..
Jayne at 16:16:26 Tuesday August 31 99
Absolutely disgusted by comments in the Chron! TCMP IN!! TCMP IS the man of the people! How dare "Colin James" (who doesn't exist - it's just a pen name) call us internet nerds - and to personally attack our local MP - tubby Tone indeed. If we're gonna get into name calling I can think of a few for Crass Colin! And to think he is actually paid to write that drivel!
gilf at 16:14:12 Tuesday August 31 99
What a rotten piece of bulls**t 'journalism' from Colin James. Incidentally I've just found out that it's just a pseudonym. Makes it a helluva lot easier to be utterly childish when it's not even their name going into print to back up those kind of comments. Like others I've e-mailed the letters page to criticise - doubt they'll print it especially as it shows the C&E is 2 weeks behind the news.
Andy C at 15:55:9 Tuesday August 31 99
I've sent a message to the C&E pointing out that I'm not a Cobbler but nor are all internet users nerds just waiting for the chance to abuse someone. Colin James' article as quoted below reads like something out of Victoriana. If I get a reply I'll let you know.
Paula Yates at 15:53:12 Tuesday August 31 99
Make it - £30K/pa even...
Paula Yates at 15:52:10 Tuesday August 31 99
Happy Cobbler: £28K/pa? - make it £30L/pa and Im yours!!!
Ralph at 15:37:39 Tuesday August 31 99
Can someone please confirm that this comment/article by Colin James actually appeared in the local newspaper. I cannot believe that such a vitriolic personal attack could appear in The Chron. What is it desperation stakes? Is the circulation down?
Ray at 15:30:47 Tuesday August 31 99
It should be doing now.
The Cobblers at 15:20:28 Tuesday August 31 99
A bit, but I'd rather just sit there!
Ray at 15:18:14 Tuesday August 31 99
That better?
The Cobblers at 15:10:59 Tuesday August 31 99
Can you stop me floating up and down Ray? It's making me and everyone else dizzy!
Dyl at 15:6:48 Tuesday August 31 99
By the way, what did Andy Roberts say about the game (as he was actually there)?
Dyl at 15:6:3 Tuesday August 31 99
The Chron is obviously short of real reporters, and Colin James obviously didn't go to York, or he could never have written "the Cobblers have gone from strength to strength - yesterday's victory at York made it three wins out of three ". Yesterday's win against a VERY POOR York team, and we got it in a VERY LUCKY manner. We created very few chances, and could just as easily have lost. Likewise, the 2nd half performance v Lincoln was not that of an improving side, it was a performance straight out of last season. Reading between the lines, this seems to be an article written by a political opponent of Tony Clarke, intent upon knocking him, and not entering into a real debate about the state of the club. IF ANYONE IS IN ANY DOUBT ABOUT WHERE THE TORIES STAND RE: NTFC - REMEMBER, IT WAS THE TORIES WHO PUBLICLY STATED THAT THEY WANTED THE CLUB SHUT DOWN AS A WASTE OF MONEY IN THE EARLY 90's. I have been an internet Cobbler for a number of years, and the discussion always mirrors the discussions on the terraces. The debates are more in depth than most at Sixfields, but that is a luxury of being able to organise your thoughts on a pc. When we were doing well the posters on this page were almost wholly positive, now that things are grim, it is natural that this page reflects that. And it may have escaped Mr James' notice, but there is a great level of disagreement between visitors to this site. We do not speak with one, two or even three voices. There are as many facets of opinion as there are posters to the page, and that is what makes it the most succesful discussion forum that there is for the club.
cockney cobbler at 14:57:7 Tuesday August 31 99
Would you Adam &Eve it,Dave Savage was at the New Den on Sat 28 Aug
watching Millwall V Chesterfield> He was sitting behind Me
at 14:54:29 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray at 14:19:50 Tuesday August 31 99
Anyone wanna join in the fax number of the Chron is 01604 233000 and their email is editor@normerc.co.uk
Ray at 14:16:44 Tuesday August 31 99
This is the text of a letter I have written to the Editor of the Chronic. "After reading the so called "Man in the Street" article from Colin James I feel that you owe Tony Clarke MP an immediate full and prominently displayed apology.
I have never read such an inaccurate biased article and, quite frankly, your publishing of such an item downgrades your "newspaper" even further than it is already. A personal attack on Tony Clarke's appearance whilst Colin James is purporting to speak for "the man in the street" is completely and utterly unacceptable and you should know better than to print such an article.
Irrespective of my own personal feelings in this matter, you are perfectly aware that Tony is the supporter's representative on the board of Northampton Town Football Club and, if a majority of supporters wish for action to be taken then he would be failing in his duty if he did not say so and so act. May I suggest that checking the facts would do a lot more good than personal attacks. I am aware that Tony has received many, many faxes, letters and emails on the subject of Ian Atkins and perhaps if you took the time and trouble to speak to him you would know the feelings of the supporters rather than the haphazard "guessing" method you appear to use in the majority of your reporting.
You will also be aware that the description of "publicity crazed politician" is also completely unfounded. When your previous item stating that Tony Clarke was to ask the board to sack Ian Atkins was published yesterday, you must have been aware that the posting to the Internet was made over two weeks ago. I also have to inform you that publishing out of date facts is not news, contrary to what you appear to believe. For your additional information this is where the "news" in "newspaper" derives its name. The dictionary definition of "news" is "report of a recent event" which clearly is not the case in this instance.
I also note the attack on the "sad internetters" - by no means an uncommon line encountered on your pages. Would you care to explain and also point out to your readers, that the posting in question must have been read by a "sad internetter" on your staff. The person who copied this information and blew it up into a full scale article is obviously unsuitable for employment as he or she will "spew out a steady steam of abuse against all and sundry."
The Internet is often the only source of information about Northampton Town for many supporters who do not live locally. This does not make them sad, nerds, abusive or any of the other descriptions often leveled against people who use such a media. It just makes them fans who have as much right to their opinions as any other supporter."
NTFC ANDY at 14:12:23 Tuesday August 31 99
ATKINS IS STAYIN
TLA at 13:58:55 Tuesday August 31 99
Thanks NAT, that guy sounds like a bit of a Tory on his own agenda, IA should see current events as a challenge, demonstrate your genuine football management skills and try something more positive. I do not want to watch results and be bored at matches which is true of his succesful and unsuccessful seasons.
Happy Cobbler at 13:52:36 Tuesday August 31 99
Yea, so I am a nerd Rick? OK well I'm glad then... I work as an IT / Web administrator playing with IT all day. Sure, I'm a nerd when I earn £28,000 a year, drive a BMW and go home each night to one of the best looking girls you ever will meet. So piss off, with your Top Job, what is it, licking Atkin's boots clean? Huh, what a pleb you are.
SBJ at 13:51:15 Tuesday August 31 99
A truly pathetic piece of writing there from the Chron's man. It can't be long now before he knocks up an "all women are bad drivers" type of article to make himself sound like a modern shock-journo. Barely worth responding to the guy, especially as he'll already have written off anyone using e-mail as being a "nerd" (wake up to the 1990s Colin James! - the Internet is as well-integrated a part of modern life now as media apologies). Just another example of poorly-researched and mistaken journalism, or a pointless exercise in smearing a good man's name? Colin James should be ashamed of himself.
Happy Cobbler at 13:48:48 Tuesday August 31 99
Thanks NAT, some feat typing all that! As to Colin James, who is he? What the hec is he on about? What is the email of the Chron! Man I am so gonna complain! Barrack them with complaints. After all, anyone reading this is an Internet Nerd! He is so wrong, the only reason everyone here wants Atkin's out is THIS IS THEIR ONLY VOICE!! OK Colin, where else can supporters air their views, hmm let me see... When the team are playing crap against say POSH? YES, and the WHOLE NORTH stand was chanting Atkins out! Even the West stand joined in for quite some time. I have had enough off all these tossers that say Atkins support is not in question. It is, the only reason more dont speak for him to go is they have no where to do it.
NTFC andy at 13:46:51 Tuesday August 31 99
ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN ATKINS IN
Rick at 13:43:3 Tuesday August 31 99
Hurray for Colin James. Sad little internet nerds - spot on! Be thankful to the man - you lot have got something else to moan about now. Not that you need much encouragement. And before you tell me you represent the fans - you don't. You represent the small minority who have nothing better to do than play with your PCs all day. Ever laughed at trainspotters?
BEAST at 13:36:51 Tuesday August 31 99
I agree with TCMP's comments although I think the C&E were a little sensationalist with their headline, my feelings are that most people having suffered the negative tactics for too long would like to see a change, if Atkins can not deliver this change then a replacement needs to be found, but not at any cost. Too often managers depart before a genuine replacement is available, look at Man City, Newcastle, Blackburn, etc. If the right man is available fair enough lets have him but lets not be paniced by an indifferent start and end up in a worse mess than we are now. Arsenal have had a rough fortnight, even with all their expensive signings, but I hear no call for Wenger's head. My belief is Atkins needs to be judged one game at a time, as Stonhill said. Despite only beating poor teams, there are a lot of poor teams in this division, maybe enough for even Atkins to get us promoted. As for the Lincoln morons who visit this site I can confirm that I applauded Peacock off the pitch, but as for Thorpe there is no race question, black, white, yellow, brown, the guy is a liability to all players who are unfortunate to be on the same pitch.
Nat at 12:51:52 Tuesday August 31 99
and with that I will leave you for two weeks as I head to sunny Malta. See y'all when I get back, UP THE COBBLERS!!!!!
Nat at 12:45:3 Tuesday August 31 99
From the Chronicle and Echo, Tues Aug 31st;
Colin James says what the man in the street is thinking.
"Just when the cobblers' ship has weathered the early season storm and is steering a progressive course, along comes Tony Clarke, man of the people, to do his level best to run it into the rocks.
You'd think the member of parliament for Northampton South would have better things to do with his time than networking with the handful of internet nerds that spew out a steady steam of abuse against all and sundry.
Not our Tone. With all the skill of a modern day publicity-crazed politician, he has to be seen acting to be acting on behalf of the people. So he puts the boot in on Ian Atkins.
Of course tubby Tony knows a lot about football. We've all seen pictures of his overweight frame being shoe-horned into a football kit (extra, extra large, no doubt) for yet another "charity" match.
Obviously, that qualifies him to decide as and when the Cobblers need a new manager.
He says he is acting on behalf of supporters. Which ones, Tony? The thousands upon thousands of caring, decent Cobblers fans or the handful of fellow sad interneters who rarely have a decent word to say about anybody?
Of course, Cobblers fans were frustrated by those first two defeats of the season. But two games was never enough to decide a manager's future, and since then the Cobblers have gone from strength to strength - yesterday's victory at York made it three wins out of three and it's up to seventh in the third division table. Already a playy-off spot, and every indication that there's more to come.
Wrapping yourself in the "supporter's flag" is easy, a perfect excuse to shout your mouth off and grab a few headlines. Politicians crave them, especially when their majority is as wafe thin as that of the MP for Northampton South.
His determination to represent the common man is admirable. But before he bangs on about democracy and the peoples' choice, consider this :
If there was a referendum tomorrow there would be over-whelming votes in favour of the following : Britain staying out of the European single currency; all handouts to illegal immigrants and bogus asylum seekers being stopped immediately with the whole dammed lot of them sent back to where they came from; and hanging to be brought back for, at the least, child and police killers.
His party, the party of government, know this. But will Clarke and his buddies act according to the peoples' wishes? Will they heck. Politicians are only interested in public opinion when it matches theirs or when it's close to election time.
I expect the Cobblers board to back Atkins and tell him to carry on the good work now underway. They'll have to ignore as best they can the distraction served up by this interfering MP, but they'll be well aware if the dangers of letting the inmates run the asylum.
As for Clarke, should the Cobblers get to Wembley next May, I'm sure he won't be cluthcing at Atkins' coat-tails in the hoe of a little goodwill and glory rubbing off on an MP just a year or two away from a general election."
Phew, no scanner......just typed the whole article in full for those people not in a chron catchment area, what do you think then?
Out of town dude at 12:42:51 Tuesday August 31 99
What is said in the Chron? Some of us out of town people don't get to read it??
Vince at 12:33:24 Tuesday August 31 99
Nat, see what you mean about Colin James article, I've already emailed the C&E with my thoughts. Although he's entitled to his opinions, to condem abuse on the internet and then promptly abuse someone because of their weight and size is not on.
Nat at 12:11:22 Tuesday August 31 99
Who the hell does COLIN JAMES think he is, has he EVER been to a cobblers match.............read the chron if you want to know what I'm talking about, then again like the rest of you we are "internet nerds!"
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! at 11:53:36 Tuesday August 31 99
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooosh!
Nat at 11:44:58 Tuesday August 31 99
Have to agree, the three wins that we have achieved so far were against poor opposition. It will be interesting to see how well (or not) we do against better quality, no disrespect to Lincoln, York or Chester intended.
IMHO Atkins won't be going for at least another season:-(
Good luck tomorrow TCMP, TCMP IN, TCMP IN!!!!
Paul S at 10:54:58 Tuesday August 31 99
West Stand John - I have to disagree with you notion of representation. In this country elected representatives (starting in Parliament, and covering almost every elected body) make their own judgement on issues that they vote on. They should be expected to fulfill any promises made during the election, but have no requirement to consult or even vote according to the wishes of any, let alone majority, opinions of their constituents. Tony Clarke has given us a clear view on his position and allowed us to put our views to him in advance of the meeting, this is considerably more than we can expect. I have to say that while I am happy with Tony Clarke as a representative, I remain distinctly umimpressed by the trust's charter in restricting the board member to current (and of 2 year standing) members of the trust's executive.
GK at 10:45:0 Tuesday August 31 99
Yesterday's goal was the first big slice of luck we have had in a long time. The game was pretty poor, and it had 0-0 written all over it. It's hard to pick a MOTM but I would go for Welch who pulled off a couple of really good saves, and gave us some Grobelaar-esque moments of comedy. Howard had a moderate game, he lost more 50/50s than he won, but some of his passing was superb. Let's not forget that it was Howard that supplied Spedding with the ball that ended up in the back of the net. Unfortunately Howard's performance seems likely to be remembered for one of the worst misses in recent history. The ball came to the York keeper (Mimms), Gibb charged him down and Mimms scuffed his clearance straight to Howard 25 yrds out. With an open goal, Howard opted not to shoot, but to try to run the ball in. Unfortunately his first touch sent the ball straight back to Mimms, and in trying to recover his error, Howard only succeeded in earning himself a yellow card for a foul on the keeper. It was good to see the players and Management in the YCFC bar after the game. They looked really happy, but no-one should make no mistake that this was a fortunate win. Perhaps the Gods are on our side this season. The antics of the boo boys were intensely annoying. Not only did they try to start anti-Howard chants, but they also abused Ali Gibb when we were trying to defend the 1st York corner. Now I'm not a Gibb fan, but for Godsake, what is the mentality of people who try to put their own players off when they are trying to defend? IDIOTS, plain and simple.
SBJ at 10:8:40 Tuesday August 31 99
I guess now that the league has returned to goal difference instead of goals scored, a stream of 1-0 wins for us would be fine. That obviously demands a great deal more solidity from our defence than we can expect to rely on (not knocking our defence, but even Arsenal's old back four leaked goals last season). Carlisle's result yesterday was a little worrying, but hopefully their away form will desert them this Saturday.
Ray at 10:8:19 Tuesday August 31 99
The tipping competition can be found from the link on the main page - http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ntfc/ If you also go to Sid's Site (check the Links page) you will also be able to enter the GTA competition. Don't forget to vote for Man of the Match!
Happy Cobbler at 10:5:51 Tuesday August 31 99
My view is that complacience has crept in again on the part of some supporters. Indeed, just cause we have won 3 games (as Ray points out against dodgy teams) does not mean we are automatic promotion candidates! I would love to win the next 2 home games, but if we do it will be a right bore as always!
Ray at 10:4:3 Tuesday August 31 99
Please mail TCMP today at yto04@thefc.net with your views - he should be aware of how people feel BEFORE the board meeting tomorrow.
Ray at 10:2:55 Tuesday August 31 99
Own goals are always handy.
mp at 9:57:46 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray, I'm in total agreement that we still have a problem. We've only managed 4 goals in 5 games, one of those a penalty, which with the exception of Cheltenham, is definately bottom of the table stuff. Our goal scoring rate was appalling last season, and I'm still wondering where they will be coming from. Any ideas?
Vince at 9:57:38 Tuesday August 31 99
Ray, I have emailed TCMP with my own views on Ian Atkins following the 3 wins since the Pish game and would urge as many others as possible to do the same. TCMP made his statement in response to comments on these pages and we all know that had we started off with 3 wins then although we may not have waxed lyrical at the style of play we wouldn't have been calling for Atkins head. Although all is not well and another run of bad results will fire up the debate I feel that TCMP needs to be aware how supporters are now thinking. It would be unfair to let him be made a fool of at the Board meeting this week. Although Ray has already posted TCMP Email address to save you looking back it's yto04@thefc.net
Sydney Cobbler at 9:54:19 Tuesday August 31 99
Can anybody tell me where I can find the tipping comp everyone seems to be talking about?Are there any other Cobblers comps to join?
Ray at 9:6:4 Tuesday August 31 99
I have no doubt that the arguement tomorrow will be against taking any action in view of the recent results but I still feel that we have a problem. So far we have played teams that have had a poor start to the season (with the notable exception of Posh) who have managed to notch up the grand total of 4 wins between them and in Macclesfield's case one was against us and the results should surely be seen in this context. Even in the case of Peterborough their success here has been their only away victory of the season. Lincoln have only gained a single point away, Macclesfield have one single home victory which was against us, losing one and drawing the other, Chester haven't gained a single point at home and York have won one at home and lost 2 scoring only once in the process. When the results we have obtained recently are taken as a whole I'm afraid I'm still of the opinion that we are in trouble.
Ray at 9:4:39 Tuesday August 31 99
I would one agin state that TCMP is the supporters representative on the board. The fact that the means of electing this representative is done through the Trust is, to a large extent, by the by. If there was an alternative way of doing it then please feel free to suggest a way. If you feel differently about the stance that TCMP has taken then all I can suggest is that you email him today so he has a chance to consider your views before the board meeting tomorrow. Don't be silent - if you want your view to be heard then speak up!
West Stand John at 8:51:33 Tuesday August 31 99
It seems my comments on TCMP have sparked a decent debate. But rather than prompt knee jerk reactions please read what I wrote again and that was that TCMP has no brief from the TRUST members to call for IA to be sacked. If he had I wrote "fair enough" but at this point in time he does not and it is my view that he is acting out of order. He is of course absolutely entitled to his personal opinion but it should not be put forward as the opinion of the majority of the Trust members until such time as the membership, if it ever does, resolves the issue through its membership or elected committee.
A couple of other points. TCMP may write in general terms that he is the supporters' representative but his position on the board is as the representative of NTST and the number of Trust directors on the board of NTFC is dictated by the financial contribution the Trust makes to the club.
I do not think that this is a resignation issue for TCMP.
On a personal note for the information of the likes "Happy Cobbler" and "Big Al" I attend all home matches and a fair number of away games. Despite comments that the anti IA views represent the majority opinion I have my doubts but I readily accept that the number of those against is significant and will remain so.
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! at 8:42:55 Tuesday August 31 99
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh!
Eternal Optimist at 6:24:50 Tuesday August 31 99
Results, Results, Results.....Carry on the way we are going and we'll be promoted, Atkins will be a hero and the vocal brigade will be silent once more. Not sure if we'll enjoy being the best defensive outfit in the league but it's better to be good at something!!! By the way why did the C&E publish what TCMP had said so long ago, mischief making is surely beneith them - not.
Jamie at 2:59:52 Tuesday August 31 99
Anyway, well done the Cobbs on a good away win and keep up the good work. Wahayy, I've climbed to 5th in the tipping competition!!!What should I put for Carlisle at home?
Jamie at 2:54:54 Tuesday August 31 99
And I will repeat it for old times sake!!!
Jamie at 2:53:30 Tuesday August 31 99
Who is this NTFC Andy, I would gladly kick your f"£$%^&g head in. If you're message was deleted it was because you are a irresponsible, boring, sad, rude, etc, etc, mother *$%£"$!!! I'm sorry if you have to delete this Ray but this tosser needs to be deleted!!!
Jamie at 2:50:36 Tuesday August 31 99
Who is this NTFC Andy, I would gladly kick your f"£$%^&g head in. If you're message was deleted it was because you are a irresponsible, boring, sad, rude, etc, etc, mother *$%£"$!!! I'm sorry if you have to delete this Ray but this tosser needs to be deleted!!!
CDU at 1:43:54 Tuesday August 31 99
Keep up the good work Ray thanks for all your hard work.
Ray at 1:13:57 Tuesday August 31 99
Have you sat up until now worrying about us then?
YCFC at 1:8:31 Tuesday August 31 99
We're worse than poor, boys. We're gonna struggle so much this season, so try not to read too much into this one!
Good luck for the rest of the season.
Ray at 1:8:2 Tuesday August 31 99
... and all negotiations for fisticuffs have to be arranged between my managers - Big Roy, Ralph and the baseball bat.
Ray at 1:1:32 Tuesday August 31 99
I think you'll have to join the queue Mike.
Ray at 1:0:48 Tuesday August 31 99
As far as I know there are already a number of overseas members of the Trust - your current locale doesn't bar you from membership.
Mike Appleby at 0:59:55 Tuesday August 31 99
Look i think that Ray u are a twat and ill kick you ass
CDU at 0:35:1 Tuesday August 31 99
Cobblers have always played well against the tougher teams and lost to the crappy ones in the past. It seems to be the other way around now which indicates a defencive negative style of play. 1 - 0 wins against mediocre teams do not reflect the problems we face with Mr Atkins at the helm. When the pressure is on he has no answer and that is when we struggle and we have to win the pressure games to become Champions and Champions go out to win all of the time. Defeat is acceptable if you are trying to win in the process. Ray is there an International Membership of the Trust and if not I feel it should be initiated forthwith I'll join.
Ray at 0:21:13 Tuesday August 31 99
I agree - a very valid argued posting FRTCL. Today was the first match I've missed this season and so far the only thing I have seen to get excited about was the first half of the Lincoln match.
From the Cobbler's Last at 0:17:6 Tuesday August 31 99
The three points today were gained from a poor display in a poor game. Even though we played 4-4-2 we were still playing the long ball game without too much effect. York played the same style which I found unusual for them as they have always been a good footballing side. The ball went high ... so high I felt the League were going to give the points to the first side that got snow on the ball. As for Sped's goal, a real cracker from a narrow angle - it hit the post and then the defender who didn't even see it rebound onto him. It was so fast I didn't realise how the ball got into the back of the net until someone told me. Hendon, Savage and Hunt all played well, especially in the second half. York never really looked like scoring and Welch had little trouble except for the deflected shot in the first half. Having gained three wins on the trot changes nothing. The play is still lacklustre and we can only boast 45 minutes of decent football out of 450. 10% is nothing to get excited about. Chester and York are poor sides and Lincoln could not live with us when we played. As for Posh and Macca, we threw those games away with inept performances. We are one of the lowest scorers in the division.... only Chester, Mansfield and Shrewsbury are worse than us. A few teams are also on 4 (York... enough said!!!) Atkins still must go... I have felt this way since last January/Feb where we really lost our Div 2 status. TCMP must express the views of this board and the trust when he attends the board meeting-it would be dishonest if he did not. I am glad he has put his own opinion in too. If he fails to get Atkins out he does not need to resign. Atkins is in the top job and he has to put up with the pressure that makes him justify his honoured position. TCMP must fight on until Atkins has proved he is up to the job or has gone. I don't feel the former is an option for Atkins as he has lost it in many ways. We will only get a promotion side when Atkins has gone so the sooner it happens the better. I trust the board have it all sussed out even though 3 wins have come since the Posh defeat. I also expect it won't happen yet, but it will happen...the pattern of events last season and this makes it highly probable. I still feel money is the problem! BTW there were about 500 fans from NTFC at York. UP THE COBBLERS!!!!!
Anon at 0:12:23 Tuesday August 31 99
I would hazard a guess that his mother and the bloke who called selling door to door had something to do with it.
Anon at 0:5:7 Tuesday August 31 99
NTFC Andy, why are you such an arsehole
Ray at 23:52:22 Monday August 30 99
OK - all calmed down now? The page went off line for 20 minutes in case you wondered.
Ray at 23:51:33 Monday August 30 99
As far as I'm aware I haven't deleted any of your postings Squonk.
Baseball Bat at 23:23:55 Monday August 30 99
I'd love to meet NTFC Andy too!
BR at 23:21:17 Monday August 30 99
Count me in Ray and Ralph
Ralph at 23:20:19 Monday August 30 99
Ray I'll gladly accompany you!
NTFC andy at 23:18:38 Monday August 30 99
deleting my messages again ray maybe we should meet and i'll delete your head twat face
Squonk at 23:18:23 Monday August 30 99
Why have you deleted my last entry Ray? Surely not THAT contentious!
Make Your Mind Up Time at 23:16:51 Monday August 30 99
Let's just refresh our memories with what TCMP actually posted here after the P*sh match . . . I just wanted to come online and thank people for there comments both on and off the net over the last 24hrs. Of course I have my own opinion as to what needs to be done, but if I am to stick my neck out and say to the board it's time to act then it helps to know that the supporter base are backing me. At the end of the day we cannot let matters drift, a club like ours has tremendous potential and the thought of us not challenging for a higher league position (Div1 let alone Div2) is too much to bear. So for what it is worth, (1 vote in six) I will make your view known to the rest of the board. My hope is that whatever happens that we appreciate that we are the one club in the land where we do have a say, and where that is translated into voting power. So for the first time officially I will declare my hand and say it is time for the club to move on beyond Ian Atkins. No recriminations, no malice and some bloody good memories, but move on we must.
Anon at 23:14:41 Monday August 30 99
Nice one Squonk. Cat amongst the pidgeons time!!
TYWC at 23:13:31 Monday August 30 99
Regarding the C&E reports regarding TCMP. As you know I've written two books on NTFC and have spoken highly of Mr Atkins. However, in spite of the last three league games my stance has not changed. Ever since Yeovil last season I find it impossible to defend him. Take Friday for instance. We played wonderful football for 45 minutes. Then what happened. We played deep, put five at the back and held on making Lincoln look a half decent team. Why did we not just continue in the same fashion? We could so easily have lost that game. We had a lot of luck at Chester and again today with the own goal. I'm very happy to take the three points but I still fell that it is time for a change. As someone said to me the other day. If IA went it would be like the lid coming off a saucepan of boiling water. One final comment on all of this. I spoke to two people this week who are regular home and away supporters (one since 1947 and the other since 1976). Both stated that they will not be travelling away until he has gone. Now as far as I'm concerned, if supporters like that are staying away then there is a real problem.
CDU at 23:8:38 Monday August 30 99
The Shop Steward analogy was to help get the point over. The board is in existence because erstwhile debate and decision making can only be made with differing views.The reason he is on the board in the first place is because he is there to represent the fans views ie "much like" a Shop Steward. As I stated and Ray has also stated if he does not put the views over the table then that is when he should resign.He wont and shouldn't resign anyway and its good to see that the fans points of view are being expressed. TCMP IN NTFC DIV III MILLENNIUM CHAMPIONS
Ray at 23:3:34 Monday August 30 99
Membership of the Trust can be obtained for only £4.00 per year. Application forms at Club reception or you can join on the spot at any Trust meeting (the next one is on 30th. September). If you are feeling a little more flush then you can become a Life Member for only £25.00. If people are unable to get to the Club or a Trust Meeting then send me your email address and I'll send you a form in the mail.
Ray at 22:59:5 Monday August 30 99
Before anyone goes off half cocked about TCMP resigning from the board, why not check the facts. I think you will find that he has received many emails, letters, faxes etc. asking him to support the "Atkins Out" movement. If you feel differently then by all means do the same for the "Atkins In" movement but if he doesn't act upon the messages he has received then this would be much more a cause for resignation than any half baked ideas about him resigning because a proposal he puts forward is outvoted. TCMP IN!!!
Brian Munich at 22:59:5 Monday August 30 99
Thanks for clearing that point up Ray. Maybe you would like to refresh the memory of those of us who are not Trust members how we become so.
Ohyes at 22:57:17 Monday August 30 99
test
Brian Munich at 22:56:29 Monday August 30 99
You miss the point CDU - A shop steward is not on the board of directors and does not have a say in who the manager should be. This is a case of a director speaking out against a manager. TCMP is a director, he may well be 'the voice' of the fans but he is still a director. I've siad what I have said because I really believe it needs to be said . . . sorry if it upsets anyone.
Ray at 22:53:26 Monday August 30 99
Just to chuck my twopennyworth in, I think you will find that TCMP is the SUPPORTERS representative on the board. The fact that he is chosen by members of the executive of the Trust is completely by the by - its just a convenient way of doing it. If you are a supporter then you should be a member of the Trust anyway!
Squonk at 22:53:9 Monday August 30 99
I see the Imp has not been back. What an idiot! Reading the latest thoughts ref: TCMP. I believe he has made a basic error of judgement. Having laid his cards on the table after the Peterborough game he has really left himself little room to manoeuvre.
CDU at 22:51:56 Monday August 30 99
As a "representitive" of the fans TCMP is expressing those views and not neccesarily his own. When debate leaves the schoolground then personal views are set aside. If TCMP did not express these views then that would be his catalyst for resignation. It is a situation much like a shop steward representing his workers (pre Thatcher!!) if he doesn't get all that he wants for them he doesn't resign he continues to air the majority voice until both sides can reach suitable compromise. TCMP resign if Atkins stays, I don't think so, give the Board more credit than that.
Anon at 22:44:8 Monday August 30 99
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm! I think BM has a point.
NTFC andy at 22:43:26 Monday August 30 99
good old atkins gets us another win.atkins is god and will win us the league.the town are goin up
Brian Munich at 22:40:22 Monday August 30 99
Sorry guys but if I went in to a meeting at work suggesting a senior manager/director be removed from his post only to find that I was not in possession of all of the facts or had the support of the majority of my colleagues . . . it surely puts me in an untenable situation. TCMP is not just expressing an opinion here he is saying the manager should be sacked. I say this although I know TCMP is probably the best man for the job of Trust representative, it has to be said!
Big Al at 22:28:34 Monday August 30 99
TCMP resign just because he expresses a point of view. What's next all desenting season ticket holders hand back your tickets. It will make things very quiet
Happy Cobbler at 22:23:55 Monday August 30 99
Interesting fact (maybe?), NTFC have the second best defence in the entire football and premier league joint with 4 other clubs! And there is only two clubs with a better defence!
Happy Cobbler at 22:21:12 Monday August 30 99
Brian Munich... hahaha TCMP should resign?? Maybe your taking whatever West Stand John is. Come on, you ever been in an important meeting at work, and one of your ideas was thrown out, and did you feel you needed to resign? No, but let me say, TCMP is doing what he has to, EXPRESSING A VIEW. He is not insisting Atkin's be sacked, and right now you could understand this.
BR at 22:19:35 Monday August 30 99
Ralph - that's tomorrow. Doh!
Ralph at 22:18:47 Monday August 30 99
Former Olney Cobbler - There were 'olney' two corners second half, one each. It meant BIG ROY and I cleaned up on the betting stakes!
The Yorkshire Wolds Cobbler (formerly The Olney Cobbler) at 22:16:20 Monday August 30 99
Well a mixed bag at York today. To be honest it was a poor game but we'll take the three points. York were a very poor side. I was talking to three of their supporters after the match and they said it was the best they had played all season!!! For those of you who did not go, the best way I can sum up the 90 minutes is as follows:- BOTH sides defended corners with 11 men! Need I say any more?
Ralph at 22:14:18 Monday August 30 99
BIG ROY - Good to see you spend your winnings on some KFC! After this weekends trip I'm not eating until Tuesday morning! I'm stuffed.
Ralph at 22:11:57 Monday August 30 99
Having just read BM's comments I do feel he has a point regarding TCMP.
Brian Munich at 22:9:26 Monday August 30 99
VINCE - It would make life fairly intolerable for both parties knowing that one man on the board has come out and said the manager must go. Surely you must see the need for a united and harmonious team of directors supporting the manager (whoever that may be), the team and ensuring that we all pull in the right direction. If Atkins stays how can TCMP support him in the future. I believe TCMP has stuck his neck out and must then suffer the consequences if his bid to oust Atkins fails. It would be the only honourable thing to do. I'm sorry to have to say that I believe TCMP to be a good addition to the board but . . .
Ralph at 22:0:54 Monday August 30 99
Just back from the game and another 3 points secured. A poor first half with Welch having to make one particularly good save from a deflected shot. Second half saw the Cobblers press a little more and get balls wide to Gibb and Spedding. Both Gibb and Spedding had better games today, Ali defended quite well and put over some decent crosses. Full credit has to go to Spedding for the goal. He made a great run down the left, got in to the box, looked up to find nobody in the box so from the narrowest of angles shot only to see his shot cannon off the post and hit Fairclough on the chest and go in. Tremendous skill and positive play by Spedding. The radio apparently put the Cobblers fans at 250!!!! I felt it was closer to 800, anyone have an official count?
Counter at 22:0:49 Monday August 30 99
I'm just feeling a bit cross.
Vince at 21:59:3 Monday August 30 99
Brian Munich, I don't see that TCMP would have to resign as a director if his vote/motion to remove Atkins is lost (as it surely would be at the moment) If every Diector resigned when the lost a vote - however important the issue - we wouldn't have any directors.
BR at 21:56:12 Monday August 30 99
What's happened to the counter Ray? I'm just seeing a box with a cross in even though the site's finished loading!
Anon at 21:56:10 Monday August 30 99
Just thought i would post this from a york fan on the div.3 messageboard.York Fan: I was surprised just how poor both sides played today. I couldn't see it ending in anything other than a goal-less draw. Both sides should be ashamed of themselves - that was the worst football I've seen played at the Crescent in years. Your goal has to be jammiest of the season so far. Still, I'm not bitter - all the best.
Maybe they set higher standards than you?
BR at 21:51:27 Monday August 30 99
The match today was not a classic by any stretch of the imagination and certainly not as good as the first half against Lincoln. However, there were some positive signs still. Howard made a real nuisance of himself again. Okay, he missed an absolute sitter which sent the bob-boys into apoplexy but other than that he did little wrong. Welch was safe again and his distribution was effective although he had very little to do in the second half. Spedding's shot which resulted in the o.g. was from an acute angle and he deserved the credit. BTW - The York guy knew little about it except the bruised ribcage he'll be feeling in the morning! I'm still waiting for Savage to hit the seam of form he showed at the end of last season but I'm sure he will. On balance, we deserved the win. How long can York survive on such low attendances (2,500ish)?
Brian Munich at 21:50:45 Monday August 30 99
I find it disconcerting that Tony Clarke has decided to take this stance. As WSJohn points out TCMP is the TRUST representative, it appears that TCMP has assumed that he represents the view of every fan. I think if you took it to a vote of all supporters it would be nowhere near as cut and dried as some of you think, there is still much support for Atkins, the silent majority!!!! The way I see it is if TCMP is not sucessful in ousting Atkins TCMP has to do the decent thing and resign himself. A sorry state of affairs!
Vince at 21:50:24 Monday August 30 99
Just read the C&E report re TCMP and Atkins position as manager. In some ways much has changed since the Pish game and with 3 wins on the trot I cannot see the other directors supporting a vote to replace Atkins. Of course not everything has changed and the lack of goals suggests that tactics and the style of play have changed very little. However you cannot argue with 3 straight wins and with 2 away from home and with at least 45 minutes of good football against Lincoln Atkins position must be secure for a few more games. TCMP is right to voice the concerns of supporters particularly after the Pish match and all Directors will be aware that attendances need to improve. This will take more than a few 1-0 wins and the supporters of NTFC both regular and casual will be looking for good and enjoyable football this season. Atkins style of management is still under scrutiny and although we all want NTFC to gain promotion this season we also want to be entertained and for the many casual supporters who we need to keep the clubs finances in good shape entertainment is what puts backsides on seats.
Sherlock Holmes at 20:22:12 Monday August 30 99
How does WSD submit his match review to the FTT site when the nearest he has been to a match today was when he lit a fag?????
A total Prat at 20:19:54 Monday August 30 99
3 wins on the trot so everything is now rosy. Atkins in. Atkins in.
George Orwell at 20:17:25 Monday August 30 99
Fans are the life of the club and all are equal. But, as in a book I wrote many years ago, some fans (Trust members, West Stand John and his 2 chums) want to be more equal than others.
Happy Cobbler at 19:56:44 Monday August 30 99
Hmm, when I say this board backs that up below, I am of course refering to this messageboard. To think that the NTFC board in general backs a motion for Atkin's out would be like beliving in Santaclause!
Big Al at 19:56:31 Monday August 30 99
Thank you Happy Cobbler you mentioned the majority of the points that I wanted to raise who does this person think he is. I acknowledge the fact that everyone has the right to their opinion but in this case I Feel that West Stand John has got this totally wrong he must be blind and deaf to not realise what is going on within our club. We the supporters have a right to voice our opinions and if it is through TCMP surly that is more preferrable than demonstrating before during and after games. Get off your high horse West Stand John and LOOK AND LISTEN to what the majority of us feel A T K I N S O U T!
Big Al at 19:49:7 Monday August 30 99
Well done lads made hard of it but three welcome points shame Atkins felt the need to revert to a flat back 5 again towards the end. Anyone know who the fans were booing when Ali Gibb was taken off to be replaced by Hendon? Three more valuble points in the bag. P.S. Atkins still OUT.
Happy Cobbler at 19:19:47 Monday August 30 99
What medication are you on West Stand John? You are the one missing the point! You say that the majority of fans don't want Atkins out, what do you base that on? Most of the crowd was chanting for him to go against Poo, and this board backs that up. Even Andy in the Chron said the majority of fans want Atkins out after that game! And NO, Tony Clark should not just air views of the Trust. He is the "Supporters Representative" on the board, as is stated in the program for the Lincoln game. Though I guess you don't attend matches as you can't have been at the Posh game to miss the chanting, or the Lincoln game to not have seen the program.
West Stand John at 18:39:18 Monday August 30 99
Ray you miss the point I make about TCMP. It is this - he is on the board as the representative of the Trust. It is the views of the Trust he should put to his co-directors. I have nothing against your forum as a platform for anyone to express whatever view they like on the subject of IA and other matters and I agree that the majority by some distance who visit your site are anti-Atkins. It does not follow that this is the view of the majority of fans but so far as TCMP if he has a brief from the Trust to oust IA then fair enough but I do not believe that this is the case and.
Sid at 18:36:39 Monday August 30 99
Well said Hannah, it's a tough position to be in, but lets wait for people at the game to see what they say.
Hannah at 18:28:53 Monday August 30 99
Well what can I say. That's 3 successive victories for the Cobblers without conceeding a goal.It's not very good news for those who are anti-Atkins, but at the end of the day we won so what does it matter.
Ray at 18:24:6 Monday August 30 99
Well - surprisingly - no-one managed a perfect 10 for today's tipping contest. Current table now posted.
WSD at 17:25:6 Monday August 30 99
Time to go to work, see you all tomorrow, my match report should be uploaded to the FTT site before I go, if not it will be up in the morning.
WSD at 16:49:45 Monday August 30 99
IT'S ALL OVER, 1-0 TO NORTHAMPTON TOWN!!
WSD at 16:48:22 Monday August 30 99
Tense final minutes for Cobblers, 1-0 up, Clarkson on for Gibb, back-five, Rowe has just fired over the bar
Sean from London at 16:47:19 Monday August 30 99
Are we still 1-0 up. Who is listening to the radio?
T. at 16:40:9 Monday August 30 99
send me a message please
T. at 16:38:40 Monday August 30 99
where you all gone?
WSD at 16:38:1 Monday August 30 99
My mate has just phoned me from the terrace and he says it was an own goal. Spedding's shot came back off the post and a York defender walked it in.
T. at 16:35:43 Monday August 30 99
teletext have it down as an own goal to Fairclough
NSB at 16:34:16 Monday August 30 99
Crap are we playing now?!?!?!?
Sid at 16:32:23 Monday August 30 99
WSD, no need for Sturridge :0) but we have Spedding!
Sid at 16:30:48 Monday August 30 99
YYYEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!1 Spedding scores from acute angle! 1-0
WSD at 16:30:19 Monday August 30 99
GGGOOOOOOAAAALLL!! Duncan Spedding excellent run down the left, into the area, thumped the ball home, 1-0!
T. at 16:21:17 Monday August 30 99
WSD, I deleted your Yahoo messenger ID by mistake, can you post it here or send me a message again please? Cheers. poo have just gone 4-2 up
WSD at 16:19:58 Monday August 30 99
Sid - like bring Sturridge on possibly? :oD
WSD at 16:19:16 Monday August 30 99
That "Anon" comment was not me, thank you to whoever posted it though :o) I know someone loves me somewhere!
Sid at 16:17:42 Monday August 30 99
Doing okay i suppose, but need to pull out something for the win!
Anon at 16:17:24 Monday August 30 99
Why doesn't everyone leave WSD alone, he might be a touch cocky for a young lad, but this page wouldn't be the same without him (please note I'm not prepared to leave my name when expressing this opinion)
WSD at 16:15:27 Monday August 30 99
Okay who's the wise guy that's trying to impersonate me? I think everyone on here knows I would never make a comment like that one at 15:56:33. Ray (if it is Ray) I am speaking on the games so far this season rather than the one today.
WSD at 15:56:33 Monday August 30 99
I might not have been to any games but I know best because I am THE ONLY REAL TRUE FAN.
Anon at 15:54:19 Monday August 30 99
Has that prat WSD been to any matches this season?
Ray at 15:51:36 Monday August 30 99
How can you make such a comment WSD when you aren't even at the match????
WSD at 15:48:58 Monday August 30 99
Well we came back into it in the last 10 minutes but 0-0 it is. I would only make one change to the team that is playing, and that is play Sturridge out on the right in place of Ali Gibb. He has been playing well in the reserves, whereas Ali has clearly lost all confidence in his own ability.
Nat at 15:46:23 Monday August 30 99
Half-time 0-0
Nat at 15:42:53 Monday August 30 99
Cobblers are playing some good football according to Mike Sewell and are now looking brighter!!
Anon at 15:40:15 Monday August 30 99
me too, like yourself have to work :-(
Nat at 15:38:38 Monday August 30 99
D'OH!
Nat at 15:38:14 Monday August 30 99
2 corners on the trot, COME ON LADS!!!
WSD at 15:36:41 Monday August 30 99
P*ssed off I'm not at York, Cobblers under the cosh a bit, York have just had four chances in 6 minutes - eeeeek!
Nat at 15:35:6 Monday August 30 99
Fine thanx Dave, you?
Nat at 15:33:46 Monday August 30 99
Diremonds 0 Welling 0
Stevenage 1 Ploppies 0
WSD at 15:31:15 Monday August 30 99
Hey Nat, how r u?
Nat at 15:29:31 Monday August 30 99
COME ON TOWWWWWWWNN!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAARGH at 15:26:21 Monday August 30 99
Pish are 3-0 up against Darlo, I think Mr Posh and his groupies may well be paying a visit tonight!
WSD at 15:24:50 Monday August 30 99
Nice to see Atkins has kept faith with 4-4-2, again no Peer in the 16 which begs the question, why did we sign him? Pretty even game, we've had 2 corners, York have had 2 free-kicks, no goals so far.
Happy Cobbler at 14:48:55 Monday August 30 99
Thanks, Ray! Just found that out. I think they started later than usual. :))
Ray at 14:47:29 Monday August 30 99
Confirmation that the match IS being covered on RadNor...
No1 Cobbler at 14:44:31 Monday August 30 99
Today's team is the same as Friday's the only change being Sturridge coming in for Corazzin on the bench
Ray at 14:37:38 Monday August 30 99
If you want TCMP to take all viewpoints then may I suggest you mail him - yto04@thefc.net . The overwhelming opinion of people who have posted on here is that Atkins should go and yours is the only message I've seen supporting him for several weeks. This is basically the only forum where fans have been able to express any view whatsover and I'm sure you can't expect TCMP toindividually phone all Trust members and ask them for their opinion before putting matters to the board.
Happy Cobbler at 14:35:19 Monday August 30 99
West Stand John, why does it not matter what people write on here? We are fans too, season ticket holders in a lot of cases. Maybe just because Trust members dont want Atkins out, that does not mean that the Majority of fans want the same thing! I think Tony has got it right personally, and yes most people still want Atkins out!
Happy Cobbler at 14:32:33 Monday August 30 99
Isn't the game going to be on BBC Northampton, if I had known it wasnt going to be I would have gone to the game! So, if it is, then why are they playing crap "golden oldie songs" from 2pm, all the way to still now... 2.30pm!!
West Stand John at 13:48:4 Monday August 30 99
I write this as a Trust member in response to the comments today under the name "Big Al" concerning TCMP and reports in today's C&E and his earlier comments on this site which apparently are genuine.
Before TCMP gives views to the board on IA he should consult with his constituents, the Trust members rather than respond to comments on this internet site and the supporters to whom he has spoken. It may be that a majority of the Trust members share his opinion but maybe not. I sit at home games with 3 others all Trust members. None of us are in favour of IA being sacked. Therefore, any assumption by TCMP that he is expressing the opinion of the majority could be dangerous and to that extent he is totally out of order. He is welcome to his personal opinion but it should be just that and any views put to the board are his alone.
Sid at 13:41:28 Monday August 30 99
Any last minute GTA's for the YORK CITY (A) game? Then e-mail me ASAP!
Sid at 13:40:42 Monday August 30 99
It is quiet today! Looking forward to the York game, lets go out and make it three on the trot!
WSD at 11:44:23 Monday August 30 99
Or more likely on the way to York. Unfortunately some of us have to work this evening *sob* so are having to miss the game :o( And before you start Amused - no, I don't get pocket money, I have three jobs to pay my way.
WSD at 11:36:26 Monday August 30 99
Maybe everyone's at Daveworld?
Ray at 11:12:56 Monday August 30 99
Quiet today....
Big Al at 9:50:39 Monday August 30 99
Morning T Should read back page not dacck page
T. at 9:46:12 Monday August 30 99
morning all
Big Al at 9:43:4 Monday August 30 99
Just got the Chronic delivered dacck page headlines "MP CLARKE CALLS FOR ATKINS TO GO" It goes on to say Cobblers director Tony Clarke MP is to outline his reservations about manager Ian Atkins at a board meeting later this week.
The pressure has eased on Atkins following the weekend victory over Lincoln City, which has lifted the Cobblers into mid-table.
But Clarke, the supporter's representitive on the board of directors, feels he is duty bound to air the concerns expressed by supporters to him since the start of the season.
And he also has to square his comments he made in public, admittedly back on August 15 - the day after the home defeat to Peterborough when the Cobblers were without a point and without a goal.
The Labour MP realyed his view to the Chairman Barry Stonhill before taking a family holiday which forced him to miss the game at Chester.
"I listened to a lot of comments from concerned fans after the Peterborough game," said Clarke. They were overwhelmingly of the opinion that the club would benefit from a change of manager.
"It is my duty, as a supporter's rep, to reflect the opinion of the fans in the boardroom.
"It was quite clear to me that the supporters weren't reacting just to the results at Macclesfield and at home to Peterborough.
"The discontent stretches back to some bad results last season, a diet of defensive football and the fact that players are not being used to their full potential.
"I'm delighted by the way things have turned round in the last two games and I hope it continues".
Well done Tony I for one are right behind you lets get him out and get a new manager who knows how to vary the way of playing the game. Ian if you read this thanks for the memories.
at 9:42:23 Monday August 30 99
Ray at 1:12:56 Monday August 30 99
Well if I repeat it there wouldnt have been a lot of point in deleting it would there?
Julie at 0:45:27 Monday August 30 99
you can't leave it there!
julie at 0:44:53 Monday August 30 99
Ray, what did Lincoln say that was offensive?
Ray at 0:35:58 Monday August 30 99
The proper counter is now working folks - so you can indulge in your stats again :-)
Ray at 0:34:32 Monday August 30 99
I was updating the site and accidently overwrote your contribution timed at 00:26.....OK - I'm a prat :-)
Ray at 0:33:13 Monday August 30 99
Apologies.
Ray at 0:32:55 Monday August 30 99
Whoops - that last one was deleted accidently - honest!
Ray at 0:20:36 Monday August 30 99
Nope - I can only see one posting deleted. Feel free to post your contribution again.
Ray at 0:15:6 Monday August 30 99
Lee..sorry - didn't see any posting from you...only one from some Lincoln prat. I'll check and reinstall it if I have it.
Dav COBBLER POSH HATER FC at 23:57:5 Sunday August 29 99
Hello fellow COBBS - Time for a jaunt up the M1 eh ? See you all at York !! Might even be tempted to buy Ray and Roy a pint ??? UP THE COBBLERS
Lee Thorpe at 23:52:39 Sunday August 29 99
Ray, What about my posting? Why did you delete that?
Ray at 23:50:57 Sunday August 29 99
As all regular contributors to this site will know I do NOT censor what is said, just delete the ones that contain offensive language. The language contained in the posting was conmpletely unacceptable.
Big Al at 23:37:35 Sunday August 29 99
Quietly confident in getting 3 points tomorrow as I feel that York are there for the taking. I hope Atkins does not let us down by playing defensively. Then who knows after that Carlisle and Hartlepool at home the two following game who knows we might even end up where we should be ***AT THE TOP*** all of a sudden things are not looking so gloomy apart from Atkins still being here that is. Nice to see Stonhill talking to some of the fans half time against Lincoln it is appreciated, perhaps we are actually getting through to the people who matter. To the sad Lincoln supporter who feels that their player being stretchered off was 'payback' for Clarky last year. Sorry mate you are sadly wrong myself and everyone around me that I could see stood to applaud your player off. Hope he is OK! and has not suffered any lasting injury it was a nasty ball with two committed players going for it. **** COME ON COBBLERS ****
Tony at 23:32:43 Sunday August 29 99
Have read some of the comments on Friday's game. I thought the first half was pretty impressive with the long awaited switch to 4-4-2 producing the best football we've seen for quite a while. Second half was less so but I thought that had more to do with lincoln chasing the game than by a switch to negative tactics. Like at least one other contributor here, I saw Atkins actually encouraging the likes of Gibb to push on (which he seemed reluctant to do). Individual performances were a bit mixed. It was the first time I'd seen Byfield play and was disappointed; a bit of a livewire who tried to do too much every time and it never once came off. I would like to see Sturridge given a real chance with Howard up front. I wqould also like to see Morrow in a Cobblers shirt before he's sold off to the Villa. Personally I think Corrazzin is overrated with a poor first touch, a little slow and lacks confidence in front of goal. I have never understood why he is deified at Sixfields - probably that goal against Stoke last August.
Sid at 23:24:41 Sunday August 29 99
I think "here" was supposed to be "hear"
Sid at 23:23:53 Sunday August 29 99
IMP, leave your comments to yourself, because we don't need t**ts like you saying we're all racist. A lot of the Lincoln team are black, including former Cobbler Terry Fleming. Did you here any racist comments from our supporters? I dont think so..... (oh sorry, of course, you were sat in that darkened room at the time) And the Clarky/Thorpe/Peacock thing. Fairs fair in my book... It's okay for your players to commit tackles that injure, but when the boot's on the other foot it's different! Sound a bit like Man U to me (I apologise to Man U fans for that comment - you know what i meant in relation to (G)IMP comments)
Bierton Cobbler at 22:58:22 Sunday August 29 99
P.S. Is it true that Dean Peer is Atkins' brother-in-law?
come on at 22:29:21 Sunday August 29 99
what?! A football manager prone to demonic abusive outbursts? surely not
Bierton Cobbler at 22:22:49 Sunday August 29 99
Here is some scurrilous gossip based on entirely on hearsay, but here goes - My brother got talking to a cobblers player (who shall have to remain nameless in case you know who gets to hear about this)in a pub last night. When asked why the cobblers display was so good in the first half and so poor in the second half against Lincoln was told Atkins would'nt let players Like Spedding go forward. Other general comments - which back up some of the things posted here recently - the players don't like Atkins - he is a nutter - prone to demonic abusive outburts.
stat freak at 22:7:11 Sunday August 29 99
one v. midly interesting thing about netscape v explorer on this site is that you are allowed to refresh on explorer long before the graphics are loaded, but not with netscape, although it is quicker to load them
stat freak at 21:56:49 Sunday August 29 99
we dont get stats with the new counter! boo hoo
Anon at 21:53:53 Sunday August 29 99
Bill - not hard, just about every computer magazine CD you have
Happy Cobbler at 21:45:13 Sunday August 29 99
Yea IMP, from where I was in the North Stand, the applause was ringing all around the ground. People were even standing to applaud your player, and I didn't see any of your lot doing that for Clarky!
Bill at 21:28:9 Sunday August 29 99
Thanks Ray, where do I get hold of netscape?
Anon at 21:22:27 Sunday August 29 99
Imp, before somebody else mentions it, NTFC were one of the founder members of "let's kick racism out of football"
Are you a part of that yet?
Poor loser!
Jamie at 21:18:11 Sunday August 29 99
And I'll correct "your" to "you're" before you say something of me being racist because I cannot spell properly or something!!!
Jamie at 21:13:7 Sunday August 29 99
I don't recall what game you went to Imp, when your bloke was carried off he got more applause than you lot gave Clarkson last time. But I suppose your not bitter from us beating you are you? P.s, I have supported NTFC for the best of 10 years and not once have I heard any racist comments from our fans, home and away so kindly sod off back to your website unless you have something appropriate to say.
God at 21:6:41 Sunday August 29 99
Sorry Imp
I have to make a judgement -
Peacock/Frain - 50/50 no question
Thorpe/Clarkson - foul by Thorpe but not as bad a some would have yo believe
Professor F J Lewis, Psychologist at 21:4:4 Sunday August 29 99
Let me guess Imp - You didn't even go to the match on Friday. You were sat alone in a darkened room, wearing semen splattered trousers, and its probably years since you last spoke to somebody who knew who the hell you are.
Judge Pickles at 21:0:13 Sunday August 29 99
Sorry Imp general reaction from the west stand was spoting applause - yes of course there are a few idiots but are you suggesting sincil bank is idiot free?
Oh and did clarkson ever get an apology from thorpe - after that game the only lincoln offical who asked about the injury was Phil Stant 10/10 to him but zero to the rest of the squad.
Imp at 20:55:45 Sunday August 29 99
Squonk says Did you not pass a memorial that indicates otherwise on the way in from the car park?
Yeah, but most Northampton Town fans can't read - and think that black people need to be exterminated. As I said, before Ray censored me (as he will do with this) - 50/50 ball Clarkson/Thorpe. Completely over the top tackle on Peacock - and you lot applaud it.
Shows you all for what you are, doesnt it.
IMp at 20:52:50 Sunday August 29 99
Usual censorship of the facts from the Northants scum.. As for Squonk, in fact when our player was carried off, all I heard from you cretins was "thats for Clarkson", "and now we'll have the lot of ya" and, the clincher, "we'll get that black bastard Thorpe."
IMp at 20:52:49 Sunday August 29 99
Usual censorship of the facts from the Northants scum.. As for Squonk, in fact when our player was carried off, all I heard from you cretins was "thats for Clarkson", "and now we'll have the lot of ya" and, the clincher, "we'll get that black bastard Thorpe."
Ray at 20:44:30 Sunday August 29 99
Bill - can I suggest when writing html code - you check the look of the site in both MSIE and Netscape.
Ray at 20:41:8 Sunday August 29 99
Lincoln reaction to Friday's game can be found at http://www.impnet.co.uk/news/viewl.html
Bill at 20:37:25 Sunday August 29 99
Everyone's comments have not gone unnoticed. I had thought that females would vote on the quizlet, however, I don't know how to change it. Sorry. I'm surprised that anyone was bothered
Anon at 20:33:32 Sunday August 29 99
how much is it to get in to york
Ray at 20:28:10 Sunday August 29 99
Sorry Anon - I have to agree that Peterborough are better than the USA National Team - but there again most of the under 12's around here are as well.
Ray at 20:26:52 Sunday August 29 99
Sorry Squonk - the posting in question was about the worst on here for a while - but I've left yours on - and I'll leave it to other people imagination.
Blind and Stupid at 20:21:59 Sunday August 29 99
Nosey Parker - explain why proclaiming Darlo as champion on a Cobblers board is valid? - Ok it is valid (as an opinion) but it is also lacking in wit, (yes we all know they have had a good start and have lots of money)and as I said not a positive contribution.
Anon at 19:53:31 Sunday August 29 99
I did't know you had a football team in northamton as i live in usa i had only heard of PETERBOROUGH in that area.
Who knows you may be as good as them one day.
good luck
chris at 19:25:44 Sunday August 29 99
There must be something wrong with either my mouse or computer, because i can't seem to get through to the main features of the prostar site.
Squonk at 19:23:23 Sunday August 29 99
My last posting now makes no sense at all. Well done for using the blue pencil Ray.
Squonk at 19:22:0 Sunday August 29 99
I can fully understand you being a little bit upset Imp but didn't you hear the applause your player got from all areas of the ground when carried off? Don't accuse us of racism. Did you not pass a memorial that indicates otherwise on the way in from the car park?
Ray at 18:9:7 Sunday August 29 99
6 hours left for York "tips"......don't miss out - its anyones prize at the moment.
bert at 17:22:48 Sunday August 29 99
did you hire the trio from the titanic to play at your presentation do at the end of last season to play music to go down to
WSD at 17:14:7 Sunday August 29 99
Amused - I remember the conversation in question, I did not say I am one of the every gamers. Check back through if you like, I did not say it.
Oooerrrrr at 17:11:8 Sunday August 29 99
Ray - just noticed, whenever I press the refresh key the visiters so far tally increases as well! So not a true representation then.....
Anon at 16:59:39 Sunday August 29 99
Happy Cobbler - am in total agreement with you - I think Cobblers fans will have to reconcile themselves to the fact that Atkins is going nowhere and to do all they can to support the team themselves.
After all, it cost £1.5m for Newcastle to say goodbye to Ruud.... better start a collection!
Happy Cobbler at 16:57:42 Sunday August 29 99
My prediction for Monday, 1-1. Atkins will play 5-3-2 and send Wilson to tell the Radio listeners "I was gonna say, weve decided to defend given the amount of goals York scored on Saturday". It will be a bore of a game, and Atkin's will claim he is ahppy with a well "battled" for point!
Happy Cobbler at 16:55:17 Sunday August 29 99
You know, what pisses me off most right now is Atkin's comments in the program. He says "Remember, the championship isn't won now, its won in May". Just what sort of a comment is that? So it's ok to loose every game till then is it Ian? and then maybe if we pick up 9 points in May its our title? I agree one or two defeats is OK, but it just smacks of tipical "were the best" complaience!!
Happy Cobbler at 16:52:24 Sunday August 29 99
Lets face it people, Atkins is here for the season. There is no way the board will sack him, and 2 wins while not impressive has got him in a good situation for quite a number of games!
Ouchhhhhhh at 16:38:32 Sunday August 29 99
Oh how I hate a pain in the arse..
NP at 16:10:5 Sunday August 29 99
I agree, WSD is a a pain in the arse.
Anonnn at 15:40:12 Sunday August 29 99
Well visited http://drive.to/the.cfiles - SEXIST/MALE CHAUVENIST! On scum debate if you pick cobblers as the team you support, which of course you would do, you get "Ta very much Sensible man" - b***ocks!
Anonnn at 15:35:35 Sunday August 29 99
Amused: WELL SPOKEN!!!!
Sid - GTA CALL at 15:16:14 Sunday August 29 99
Okay, can i have some more GTA's please?? Only 9 guesses so far, so can people e-mail me with their guesses for the YORK CITY (A) game this monday ASAP.
Anon at 14:31:37 Sunday August 29 99
Well ive been to the c files - couldnt see the point.
Anon at 14:27:26 Sunday August 29 99
There is a board meeting being held on 1st. September.
Anon at 14:3:18 Sunday August 29 99
The only bloke who's a bigger Tw*t than WSD on this site is NTFC Andy
Amused at 13:52:44 Sunday August 29 99
Subject- West Stand Dave. WSD Let me remind you of a little difference of opinion that you had with a contributor pre season. His point was that there are very few fans that make EVERY game of the season, point being EVERY game. He was willing to accept that hundreds made most but the amount that made every game was probably in single figures. You rubbished this claimimng the same faces were always at every away and that there were in fact in excess of 200 every gamers, you sanctimoniously alluded to the fact that you were in fact one of these every gamers. This is obviously not true, so far you have managed only one of the away games, and the fact that there was only approx 150 away fans at Chester suggests that you will be proven wrong on that one as well. This is the reason that you get so much grief, you once asked the question, Why am I arrogant and Sanctimonious, it is exactly comments and attitudes such as that. You may well be a passionate fan of NTFC, but your comments are always soaked in an aloofness, an attitude that everyones commitment is measured against yours, as yours is so complete. This young man is the reason that you get so much abuse, from so many different contributors, and this is the reason that so few people stick up for you when you do ( apart from your litle gang of friends ). To be honest your comments have been winding me up for the last few months but I'm finally getting used to you, you even amuse me sometimes. I'm going to be carefully monitioring all the games you miss though, and I'll point this out to you, can I also remind you that only 4 weeks ago you were an Atkins supporter, 2 weeks ago you were leading the crys for him to be sacked, I expect you'll be back on his side by Tuesday, Oh the fickle voice of the only REAL TRUE FAN
Bill at 12:26:28 Sunday August 29 99
Nice counter Ray... still no feedback about the C Files from anyone though. PLEEESE mail me and you can have a big link to YOUR cobblers site.... http://drive.to/the.cfiles... sorry about the plug!
T. at 11:56:7 Sunday August 29 99
Jazzy new counter Ray
Ray at 10:48:10 Sunday August 29 99
I think people were being sarcastic.......
pdyif at 10:44:11 Sunday August 29 99
i have just been to have a look at the prostar web site, i realy dont know what youare all raving about i thought it was a load of c**p!
Ray at 10:33:37 Sunday August 29 99
OK people - turn "images" back on now. We have a replacement counter.
Ralph at 7:3:5 Sunday August 29 99
Morning has broken! Bucket and spade at the ready, I wonder if you can still buy those little paper flags to put in sand castles? This is my first time in Skeggy, wish me luck! See you all at York.
Ray at 0:34:34 Sunday August 29 99
Pity this guest book filters out html code - that last sentence finished up not making a lot of sense.
Ray at 0:33:26 Sunday August 29 99
Re: the prostar site - checking the source I see .... no cache - hmmm - that explains it...
Hartwell at 0:14:4 Sunday August 29 99
1st half performance was great to watch yesterday. I can't quite decide whether, as Ralph says, it was Lincoln's change of tactics that pushed us on the back foot, or whether we, as usual, surrendered the midfield and played too deep in an attempt to cling on to the one goal lead. Which ever was the case, it was uncomfortably and could have easily lost us points. What, also, can or should we read into the board's decision not to give Atkins any of the cash we get eventually from Chris Lee's sale? I also again spotted a besuited Colin Hill leaving the game. Can't he break the habit ? or is there more to this ? Questions, questions...!
Where r ya at 23:48:55 Saturday August 28 99
Is there something wrong with this website? where is everyone?
Massive Attack at 21:51:14 Saturday August 28 99
Inertia Creeps ... Moving up slowly
T. at 21:49:32 Saturday August 28 99
WSD, loved Daveworld!!!!!!!
ha ha at 21:30:52 Saturday August 28 99
Re: prostar site - how many places did you click before you realised?
Die Web Meister at 21:29:1 Saturday August 28 99
Ist any gewonnen inst die chatten geroom tonighten?
Die Web Meister at 21:26:35 Saturday August 28 99
Ich bin ein northamptonerin.
Bill at 21:25:14 Saturday August 28 99
That Prostar website is of a very high standard.. which reminds me... http://drive.to/the.cfiles... the NEW UPDATED C FILES!! YES!! It took six months but finally the cartoon was updated... all the stats! all the links!! Still not quite finished!! However, please have a peek, there are BIG links back to Ray's site and Sid's GTA, WALOC, etc and send feedback to cobbler_bill@hotmail.com. Always read the label, keep medicines out of reach of children, etc.
T. at 21:22:37 Saturday August 28 99
Absolutely amazing, well worth a visit
T. at 21:20:34 Saturday August 28 99
I've just been imbibing a bottle of Elderberry wine that I had for my BD and very nice it is too and watching Robbie on Sky. I'm feeling rather mellow.I see Stevenage had another good win today, as did Cheltenham. Any offers for 3 tickets for the home match against Cheltenham, my bro gets married that day.
Die WebMeister at 21:17:49 Saturday August 28 99
It is a truly wonderful website. So fully featured.
Dave at 21:4:32 Saturday August 28 99
Has anybody else had a look at the pro star web site(www.PROSTAR.CO.UK)?????????????????????????????????
DID IT HAPPERN FOR YOU??????????????????????????????
Nosey Parker at 20:58:49 Saturday August 28 99
Anon I just made a valid comment...Darlington will be champions are you blind as well as stupid?
Colin Hill at 20:54:47 Saturday August 28 99
Leave NP alone - he is only posting what I tell him in confidence
Anon at 20:49:46 Saturday August 28 99
Question for nosey parker - ever thought about making a positive contribution (to this board or even life)
Terry Hawes at 20:29:5 Saturday August 28 99
Great result for the Cobbs - good to see Howard score! Noticed that Corazzin may play for Canada against Jamaica on September 2 (not 100% sure)
Oh yeah! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...Posh lost 2-1 to Plymouth! ha ha ha ha ha...ah that's better!
I think the Town will draw 0-0 at York, it seems to be a routine at Bootham Crescent!
GO COBBS GO!
Nosey Parker at 20:27:39 Saturday August 28 99
Face the facts .....Darlington are going to be the CHAMPIONS!!!
Ray at 20:15:20 Saturday August 28 99
Report from Soccernet: Northampton's joint record signing Steven Howard finally broke his goal drought as the Cobblers took three deserved points at Sixfields. Howard rose in the fifth minute to power home a header from Ally Gibb's corner - the big striker's first goal since his £90,000 move from Hartlepool in March. The striker capped a powerhouse display by the rejuvenated Howard who troubled the visitors throughout and forced Lincoln goalkeeper John Vaughan into a brilliant save with a 20-yard drive in the 58th minute. Gibb was denied by the goal frame, sending a 63rd minute free kick against a post while Lincoln rarely threatened the home side's lead. Only David Poppleton's 56th minute 20-yarder, which thundered against the bar, seriously threatened Town goalkeeper Keith Welch. After their second successive win Northampton were applauded from the field, music to the ears of manager Ian Atkins, and Howard, both of whom have taken some stick from a section of Cobblers' fans during the early weeks of this season.
Ray at 20:10:44 Saturday August 28 99
Grimly hanging onto 6th. place in the top 100 with Liverpool breathing down our necks - what a time for the counter to break!
Wellingborough Cobbler at 19:22:28 Saturday August 28 99
WSD - Just been to Daveworld and must thank you for making me laugh with your 'Pissing on the diamonds' Animation.
Pendragon at 19:18:49 Saturday August 28 99
Having had more time to reflect on the game last night, and reviewing the league tables, it is apparent that we are still unable to score goals, and without a decent goal tally, we will not be challenging for promotion. Wilson and Atkins are ultimately responsible for this and their comments that pressure is from the missus or when the kids are ill (todays Chron) is not treating the matter seriously. They should feel under severe pressure based on what they have given us over the last 52 weeks. The change in play in the two halves yesterday was again apparent when no player wanted the ball at throw-ins in the last 20 minutes. Surely Atkins and Wilson see this and could do something in training????????
Brian Munich at 18:56:3 Saturday August 28 99
Hi DEK, Gibb made last night's goal, he won the corner, took the corner and Howard scored. I think you need to think a little deeper about playing three at the back, you need mobile centre backs that will not give the ball away that could result in exposing the fragility of three at the back. Howey, Dobson, Frain and Sammo do not fit that category, maybe Hope and Hughes but it is not realistic for those two to replace what we have. As regards 'quality' players, you have to put up with the fact that they will drift in and out of play. Gazza, Ginola, and player's like them all have their critics but inevitably they come up with good when it matters as did Dave Savage last season, unfortunately just too late. If he had played sooner we may not have been relegated que sera! As for Carlo he has been the leading scorer in the past three seasons playing for sides that have struggled. Play him and he will score goals, drop him and we will continue to struggle to score.
Question at 18:49:26 Saturday August 28 99
Where's Mr Posh and all his little minions bragging about their 2-1 defeat?????
Pontificating Pedant at 18:43:5 Saturday August 28 99
If you wanna split hairs that 'to' should be 'too'!
Ralph at 18:42:1 Saturday August 28 99
Sorry to much cold beer, that should read Monday!
Ralph at 18:40:47 Saturday August 28 99
NBC - You and I were watching the same game I'm sure but we all see it a little differently - I can recall several occasions in the second half when Spedding, Hunt, Hendon, Gibb, Savage and Sammo all opted to play a short ball which directly set up the opposition, surely you remember the hospital ball Hendon played that led to their guy being stretchered off and Frain needing treatment. You talk about Welch rolling the ball out but you have to give credit to Lincoln who pushed on and wider thus cutting that option out. The point I made earlier is our inability to counter changes made at half time by our opponents we always seemed to be sussed out and then we have no plan B. There was a real buzz at half time as there was so much for the fans to talk about. Who knows what will happen at York, I doubt if Dek will get his 3-4-3, Ray has no chance for his 2-3-5 and none of us should be surprised, dissappointed maybe, to see us revert to 5-3-2 with Peer in the midfield. Still a paddle a Skeggy tomorrow and I'm looking forward to seeing the lads get at least a point on Saturday.
DEK at 18:39:51 Saturday August 28 99
Bill, yes Gibb was useless last night, but then that is nothing new. His first touch was actually better than usual ! but how many goals does he create, let alone score. How many times has he managed to get into the box, with lots of time and hit the ball straight at the first defender, just like he did in the first half last night, when a simple PASS should create a goal. I like Byfield, at least he does something different, he tries to beat a defender in the box, and can make a goal for himself out of nothing, Carlo has not got the pace to play up along side Howard. Put it this way i bet if you asked defenders who they feared most from Carlo and Byfield, the latter would win.
DEK at 18:29:46 Saturday August 28 99
Brian, I did not dispense of Byfield, Carlo or Savage and we do not need pacey centre-halfs because we do not make that much effort to stop crossing coming in as we appear to be confident in dealing with crosses. Regarding Savage, I believe he is a quality player but doesn't contribute fully over 90 minutes, which may leave the midfield a little short, but he would still be in my side. All i am trying to say is that the way Atkins wants the team to play, 3-4-3 is the most flexible and can be both attacking and defensive when needed. We had no way of altering our play last night except for the players actually taking control of the game, which did not happen, but then again we were a little bit nervous of losing the lead.
The North Bucks Cobbler at 18:7:41 Saturday August 28 99
Bloody hell Ralph! What game were you watching. Trying to play it on the ground too much in the second half! From where I was sat, our poor second half performance stemmed from playing too many long balls up to Howard. In the first half, Welch was rolling the ball out to the wings at every opportunity - Why did this stop after half time? Could it be something a certain somebody said in the dressing room?
Bill at 18:6:15 Saturday August 28 99
Anyone else think that Gibb was pretty useless last night?
Bill at 17:57:1 Saturday August 28 99
Phew! For a minute there I lost myself...
Bill at 17:55:38 Saturday August 28 99
I can see it now... Bill wakes up, a nervous sweat breaking out on his forehead. A quick glance at the newspaper reveals that it is December, 1999, Northampton Town have just won their tenth game on the trot, and Westlife have announced that they are to split after Boyzone and the Spice Tarts have done the previous week. Ian Atkins, M.B.E, as he is now, has delivered his promise of better results, and even thrown in better football into the bargain. Richard Hope is defending with style, able to clear the ball through a strong midfield, as is Ian Hendon at Left-Back. The board announce plans for a ground extension, and the Dimones and the p**h are languishing in the lower reaches of their respective divisions. Bill and friends and relatives laugh at his nightmare that night, that the Town had only just scraped past the cavemen from Lincoln, and lost to the p**h in a dire display, and loyal fans had to suffer endless amounts of hit and hope football....
Ralph at 17:51:44 Saturday August 28 99
From where I sat there were no real changes in tactics other than Lincoln changed their game plan to counter ours. So often teams suss us out at half time and we do not seem to have the nouse to counter the oppositions changes. It was great to see us knock the ball around as opposed to hoofing it. Ironically second half some of our problems eminated from playing it too much on the ground Sid and not hoofing it when need demanded. We need to strike a balance. Both Atkins and Wilson were urging the midfield to push further up, I heard it with my own ears. The only points I can agree with DEK is that second half the midfield were guilty of not getting in the box and I'm none to sure about Byfield, his first touc