Cobblers Comments
December 2000
Bedford Cobbler at 22:40:21 Sunday December 31 2000
happy new year to all cobblers fans
Spring Park Cobbler at 21:8:34 Sunday December 31 2000
Before I nip down the Billy to see in the New Year with the other Kingsthorpe Cobblers A Happy New Year to everyone. No matter what the New Year brings we will always support the Cobblers.
Hartwell at 20:41:11 Sunday December 31 2000
Pitch inspection at 1.45 pm tomorrow.
They were the 1st at 20:40:21 Sunday December 31 2000
Yes the first formed supporters clubs and they immediately began lobbying Wembley for special ticket fascilities - and 70 years on we cant even get it right at home!! The founders soon formed a National Federation of Supporters Clubs - the motto - To Help Not to Hinder!!!
wayne at 20:39:30 Sunday December 31 2000
Happy New Year to all and lets hope the new year matches the last!
The Answer, or the ??? at 20:37:46 Sunday December 31 2000
In 1927/28 season what did Northampton have in common with; Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton, and Plymouth appart from being in the South of the country and 3rd Division South connection????
More from the world of Books at 20:34:25 Sunday December 31 2000
I keep looking Northampton up in indexes of old football books; ALL ROADS LEAD TO WEMBLEY - ALASTAIR REVIE; what did I find??? It is a first edition 1971 book.
Ralph at 19:56:18 Sunday December 31 2000
Happy New Year to you too Dave and all commentators! Cheers!!!!
Hartwell at 19:52:48 Sunday December 31 2000
Hanna - thanks fopr the info
Hartwell at 19:49:54 Sunday December 31 2000
Happy New Year to you all
HARGREAVESIES MUM at 19:39:4 Sunday December 31 2000
I think hargreaves had an outstanding game
SoundHaus at 19:31:2 Sunday December 31 2000
REVIEW OF LAST NIGHT'S EVENTS AT THE SOUNDHAUS - If there is one band that can get the punters out every time they play, then it’s got to be Circa. For they have the most loyal following of fans known, all turning out on each occasion to wish them every success. This can hardly, however, be a shock to the system, for every time the band play they manage to produce and outstanding set of songs all worthy of our undivided attention.
Having played parts of the set over the past year or so, they throw in a couple of newer songs, just to show us that producing the goods isn’t a problem and there is plenty more on tap.
Trying to throw in a criticism, just to make this sound like a balanced review, seems too unfair, ‘cos like all the bands on show tonight, Circa have worked hard to get everything just right. Appearance and enthusiasm are spot on, and you just know it’s not a chore for them. When you have songs like Creations and How Many Times up your sleeve, then confidence shouldn’t be a problem. The final song covering Heatwave, kicks the crowd into unison and all scream for more. Andrew duly obliges with his almost satirical Cup of Tea leading them to the walk off. They just get better and better.
The Good Old Days at 19:26:50 Sunday December 31 2000
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh!
CHEESED OFF IN WEST STAND at 18:44:32 Sunday December 31 2000
WHO DECIDES TO PUT THE MATCH GUEST IN THE WEST STAND. THEY TURN UP FOR BOTH HALVES 10 MINS LATE AND JUST SIT THERE LIKE IDIOTS. WHERE HAS THE ATMOSPHERE GONE. WE ONLY SING WHEN WERE LOSING!!!!!
Steven Neal at 18:30:11 Sunday December 31 2000
I would like to say that after Sat 2-2 draw with Wycombe - how could anyone give Hargreaves the MOM award. He was the worse player on the pitch. Steve Howard deserved it. He was outstanding AGAIN and scored a vital goal for us. Who actualy picks the MOM awards ?? The players mums !!!!!!
Rodney at 17:56:36 Sunday December 31 2000
Anyone - is there anyone? - who does not think that Jamie is a god should watch the Cobblers 'Millennium' video. I have to suggest that his goals look better than Morley's were...and he WAS a god! After Richard Hill, surely the best Cobbler in 25 years. Marriott: if Hodgy was 18 he wouldn't be at the Cobbs. The fact that he didn't enter league football until his early twenties means that he's probably got some decent mileage left in him.
ml at 17:55:36 Sunday December 31 2000
spotted phil chard in b&q at riverside maybe working for some pocket money
Bexxy at 17:9:48 Sunday December 31 2000
SPOTTED!!!!!!
Lee Howey in The Rat and Parrot last night with some 'old' woman!!!
Waterside Cobbler at 17:4:57 Sunday December 31 2000
On a bit of an away game roll at the moment; Walsall, Oxford, Peterboro and, tomorrow, Reading with Romsey Cobbler. Hey - what a great first visit to London Road - does it always look like a ploughed field? Anybody know what the ticketing arrangements are for Brentford? Happy New Year to everyone and see you at the Madejski!
Anon at 17:2:12 Sunday December 31 2000
According to Willo on Radio Northampton this morning, Hodgey isn't fit hence the non starter role. Also re Green, I think he does care - deeply - but I think even he would recognise that he's not the fastest player in the division. Remember, he was brought in as a stop gap to cover the loss of Lee Howey until the end of last season thus his one season contract here must be seen as something of a bonus; I suspect he has a clause to be able to talk to other clubs if they're prepared to offer something longer term. I also think we should be building the team around players likely to be here next season: just look at the internal aggro Sol Campbell appears to be causing at Spurs. Interesting observation from Mick Harford earlier this season on a scouting mission at Sixfields was that he thought we badly lack pace at the back.
Deepcut Cobbler at 16:48:22 Sunday December 31 2000
MartinW's site addy is http://www.martinwilliams.free-online.co.uk/cobblers.htm and I am looking for goals that Martin hasn't yet covered, post Oxford. Thanks COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
My old mans a Cobbler. at 15:23:9 Sunday December 31 2000
Happy new year everyone,and I mean EVERYONE.
Anon at 14:59:54 Sunday December 31 2000
Hughes - a good passer of the ball ?
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:57:15 Sunday December 31 2000
Since reverting to 4 at the back, it is apparent that Green is no longer up for it, especially in division2. With 2 other defenders alongside him, his mistakes were hidden more by players in covering positions, but with just Sammo there to help we have absolutey no pace in the centre whatsoever. Whereas Sammo is solid and justifies his place in the team, Greens only attribute is his heading ability and is far too slow. When a player runs at him, he stands off and attempts to hold them, but now that he is the last man back this tactic no longer works. If we play a back 5 he is ok, but in a back 4 he is not agile enough to be included. I cant undersant why Richard Hope has been overlooled when it is Hope that compliments Sammos play with his extra pace and quality whilst on the ball. Spooners summery of Greens recent errors is spot on, the guys 35 odd and should no longer be first choice. If we are to continue trying to develop a more expansive approach which judging by recent team formations we are, we should be looking at developing the likes of Hope and Hughes, both good passers of the ball and both at an age when they can only improve. We already have Welch and Sammo at the back for experience, lets build a team that will improve with time, not deteriate.
Very Strange at 14:6:13 Sunday December 31 2000
What about Richard Hope?
Hannah at 14:3:0 Sunday December 31 2000
He gave you all a lovely gesture because of the abuse you fired at him for him doing his best. He probably thought it wasnt fair.
Hannah at 13:59:28 Sunday December 31 2000
Crooks has damaged ankle ligaments, so like Maley, will not play for us again.
DavCobbler at 13:52:45 Sunday December 31 2000
Can ayone tell me MartinW `s aite addy please ?????
Hartwell at 13:50:51 Sunday December 31 2000
Does anyone know the extent of Crooks' injury ? He looks a good player and, like Chilvers, will help bolster our creaking defence. We will have to wait and see how Ferguson turns out but he should have some pedigree. Monday's going to be a tough game and a point at Reading would be a good return.
britgal at 13:26:32 Sunday December 31 2000
so, the frustration of playing badly made him angry enough to do that, and the fact that it mattered so much is conclusive proof that he doesn't care. And to the loyal fans as well, who weren't being mindlessly abusive? How could he? I mean, they were trying so hard to help him, build up his confidence...
Spooner at 13:20:56 Sunday December 31 2000
The fact is that Green looked god in division Three because that division is full of long ball hoofers and he is very strong in the air. In the second division, more teams run with the ball and lets face it he's not too clever on the ground. Just watch the third goal v Oxford, the P*sh goal and the mistake yesterday. The first two he just backs off too much and the third he had at least ten seconds to clear it. All he can do is head and hoof. He should have hoofed yesterday and failed. He is only third division class sadly and if he cares so much, why did he give all us loyal fans who had paid £12.50 to sit in a shithole at Oxford a lovely gesture cos he played crap?
em and will at 12:25:16 Sunday December 31 2000
i know that a supporter's natural reaction to a mistake is to shout and moan in frustration. we all want the cobbs to win. howeva, the constant abuse and criticism hurled at richard green yesterday was simply unfair. the player is evidently lacking in confidence and the 'supporters' have contributed to this with the 'general' negative attitude. rumours of his move to shrewsbury are understandable with the on loan signing of ferguson, but won't it be sad if green's last game for us was yesterday. there is no evidence to suggest (NSB(do u go 2 nsb?)) that green doesn't care. he was desperately disappointed and upset with his performance against wycombe. sammo and green are so strong and win almost everything in the air but no one seems to acknowledge their efforts. lets all try to be positive and show EVERY member of our team that they have our support.
Massey at 12:11:14 Sunday December 31 2000
Daryl Clare has joined Lincoln City on a one month loan deal.....
So he never got recalled by Grimsby afterall !!!
Marriott at 12:4:16 Sunday December 31 2000
Hodgey was absolutely class yesterday, damn I wish he was 18!
Hannah at 11:37:18 Sunday December 31 2000
I know that defenders are paid not to make mistakes, but you cant expect for them to never make mistakes!! Oh and when you (NSB)say that he never looks as if he cares, well of course he does. Remember that own goal, take a look at his face then and that shows a face that cares. What i wrote on my previous message also shows that he cares, he always claps the fans and if he didnt care then he wouldnt do it. Players react in different ways to their mistakes and just because Green perhaps didnt show he cared, of course he did, and when you know you've made an error the last thing you want is people getting at you and rubbing it in even further.
Another Insider at 11:27:13 Sunday December 31 2000
According to sources close to the club, Richard Green will join Shrewsbury Town next week. Hence the signing of Ferguson.
Ray at 11:25:19 Sunday December 31 2000
Tipping: Although the tipping contest says it closes at midnight, the contest remains open until the selection disappears. As long as you can select any particular match it means I'm still accepting tips.
Treenie at 8:49:57 Sunday December 31 2000
CK - Thanks for letting me know. I was beginning to get a bit confused
angel at 8:6:18 Sunday December 31 2000
Do i sense that you guys are supportive or non-supportive to the Cobblers???
Yes of Yardley at 2:23:6 Sunday December 31 2000
I agree. It's in a sorry state. Bring back the glory days of 1999.
Concerned of Corby at 2:21:44 Sunday December 31 2000
"Cobblers Comments used to be a great discussion site, now it's become a members club". Discuss...
CDU's Mate at 1:51:54 Sunday December 31 2000
Cheers Ray for cutting us a bit of slack My certain 10 pointer only bloody came up with a lazy 3 however !! Still its after Xmas and we don't lose now !!Nail biter coming up at Reading they will be so worried about our upcoming visit however you wont see the queue to the home teams bog clear until 10 secs before run out time !!The youngster to slot one in first then a mighty New Millennium charge for Glory from the Mighty Ones. Up The Town f#*k the P*sh and (WSD..journo pooftah)...NTFC DIV II MILLENNIUM CHAMPIONS !!!!
Stewpot at 1:22:28 Sunday December 31 2000
Just reading lower down Soccer AM what a fine program and BOY what talent Helen Chamberlin...........She can play with my Cobblers anytime. She even beats Mrs. Hendon and Janet York............ but only just and that Rebbecca Kerr was nice to watching her on the Wembley video rocking away amid the after match celerbrations.
Time at 0:31:29 Sunday December 31 2000
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!
Anon at 0:28:52 Sunday December 31 2000
I'm so glad that I didn't get that, ok!
ok at 0:23:9 Sunday December 31 2000
I bet no-one one here gets this but... WHO DAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy at 23:39:8 Saturday December 30 2000
I thought one positive thing from the game was that The Coblers still tried to play a passing game despite the ridiculous conditions. Hoofing the ball from defence delays the problem, not solves it.
nsb at 23:34:2 Saturday December 30 2000
now why did that bloody happen?
NSB at 23:33:1 Saturday December 30 2000
Hannah are you mental? green doesnt just make mistakes, he just doesnt seem to care that hes has done, at least when savage (who is not a waste of f***ing talent) makes a mistake he looks genuinely pissed off with himself, having said that the ability of the defence as a whole to clear the ball seems to have vanished.... wycombe hoofed the ball 50 yards each time the ball went anywhere near their box, perhaps its time we followed suit when people start running at us, rather than the teams natural response.... to shit their pants......
NSB at 23:33:0 Saturday December 30 2000
Hannah are you mental? green doesnt just make mistakes, he just doesnt seem to care that hes has done, at least when savage (who is not a waste of f***ing talent) makes a mistake he looks genuinely pissed off with himself, having said that the ability of the defence as a whole to clear the ball seems to have vanished.... wycombe hoofed the ball 50 yards each time the ball went anywhere near their box, perhaps its time we followed suit when people start running at us, rather than the teams natural response.... to shit their pants......
Stewpot at 23:27:6 Saturday December 30 2000
Being in a reflective type of mood I was watching VH1 and the video by Thunderclap Newman came on and I remeber it was on the special video made by the Cobblers trust when the club needed saving and I thought to myself where was I when I heard the news we had sacked all those players and the management. I remember I had not long passed my driving test and was just coming through Newport Pagnell high street listening to the radio while changing over a side of tape and I almost lost control going across the roundabout. Well heres to 2001 lets hope its a happy year Cobblers wise I look forward to my first full year on the net and look forward to the postings here cheers everyone.
ck at 22:46:49 Saturday December 30 2000
Re:"Save Chip". Chip is a bloke who works on the show whose missus won't let him watch footie on telly.
Andy at 22:33:43 Saturday December 30 2000
Hannah, the problem is that defenders are paid not to make mistakes. Strikers can make as many mistakes as they like, as long as they score goals.
Hannah at 22:25:0 Saturday December 30 2000
I'm not really going to comment much on the match but I would just like to say that i really dont think it is fair for people constantly firing abuse at Richard Green. Yes he made a mistake which led to a goal but everyone makes mistakes. Put it this way, when Gabbiadini came on he made a few bad passes but nobody boo's him for his errors so why get at Green. I dont know if any one else has noticed this but after every match he is the last one off the pitch as he always stays behind to clap the fans, even during the recent bad patch he has stayed behind and lifted our spirits to keep us hopeful. Surely we owe him some support in return. If he makes a mistake then he is going to loose confidence when he is abused by fans which will result in him playing even worse.
About Marco, I dont understand why he never plays a full game. He is a highly talented player and altho he maybe hasn't proved himself so far, it is obvious that he is a great player as he threatens defenders and lifts the game. Personally i think he should be given more of a chance to prove himself rather than a player of such quality sitting on th bench game after game.
Treenie at 22:14:36 Saturday December 30 2000
Is there anyone here who watches Soccer AM and can explain the "Save Chip" campaign. I watched it for the first time in ages this morning and didn't have a clue what they were on about and then noticed some wycombe fans with a sign saying "save chip".
jamie lover at 22:4:19 Saturday December 30 2000
I think if we get promoted we may be able to keep forrester as he loves this club. Remember how he went to the kit launch even though he hadn't signed for us yet. that's commitment
Nosey Parker at 21:59:12 Saturday December 30 2000
Oi Posh your ground aint fit to graze sheep!!
Bedford Cobbler at 21:29:29 Saturday December 30 2000
im full of praise for our boys 2 day for 2 reasons, we showed great determination and commitment towards the end to get a point and we nearley nicked it too. also the point that jamie forrester is invaluble too us. his 17 goals are 1 of the reasons we are doing well in the league, but i hate to say it but unless we get promoted he wont be staying i dont think because there will be some big clubs in for him and well want to get our moneys worth. so i feel we can also gain a playoff spot and get in that way then u never know we could be watching manchester united at sixfields in 2 seasons time? well we will just have to wait and see but it would mean holding on to players like jamie so we can move foward as a football club to gain success.
Wayne at 20:57:53 Saturday December 30 2000
of course te 2nd spedding should read Sampson
Wayne at 20:56:37 Saturday December 30 2000
I think without Crooks, Wilson will go for 5 at the back. Welch, Chilvers, Spedding, Ferguson, spedding, Green or Hope, Hargreaves, Savage, Hunt, Forrester and Howard Subs: Gabbers, Hodge (still not match fit) Hope or Green, Hughes and Sollitt
Lancaster Cobbler at 20:40:10 Saturday December 30 2000
My team v Reading
Welch; Chilvers, Ferguson, Sampson, Spedding; Hodge, Hughes, Hunt, Hargreaves; Howard, Forrester subs Gabbiadini, Hope, Savage, Sollitt, Green
Wayne at 20:33:46 Saturday December 30 2000
what goals are you after deepcut?
POSH at 19:56:55 Saturday December 30 2000
Kin 'ell
POSH at 19:56:6 Saturday December 30 2000
Oi Nosey Parker, we were due to be AWAY today. I know of no undersoil heating system that can defrost a pitch 100 odd miles away. Perhaps you know better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAVAGE at 19:48:31 Saturday December 30 2000
So much promise when he starts his runs its hypnotic - he could only score when he had the flue! Everytime he got the ball in a deep position he panicked and WW thought great. I hate to say it he makes Spedding look reasonable. Man of the Match again why Hargreaves - he was just ok??? it had to be Big Steve never gave up and a nice goal. Dont knock Green he is what he is and his `extended' run probably suprised him at this stage in his career, what im trying to say whereas Savage is a waste of talent, Green just does a job and there must be better replacements around - Hope?? James Hunt - thank god he never went you get the same return every game. Hodgy best as a sub, not much good if he starts, he needs firing up..
Deepcut Cobbler at 19:45:16 Saturday December 30 2000
MartinW. Thanks, following my last request I was slightly apprehensive about having tempted fate. Looking forward to any goals that can be retrieved. I know that I am not the only Cobbler without the means... COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Wayne at 18:17:3 Saturday December 30 2000
Just got home from a good game. Shame we threw away 3 points through mistakes. Good goal from Brown but Green made another error when not under pressure and I'm sure his place is under threat now. even though Hodge wasn't fully fit he brought the Cobblers back alive when he came on. My man of the match was Chilvers though. He's going to be a class player. Shame Crooks was injured too cos he made our midfield 10 times more effective.
anon at 18:4:22 Saturday December 30 2000
richard green, u are the weakest link. goodbye
Wellingborough Claret at 18:1:43 Saturday December 30 2000
Richard Green, u are the weakest link! goodbye
Enuff is Enuff at 17:47:35 Saturday December 30 2000
This is the campaign for Hope for Green and Gabbiadini for Savage, please!!
Nosey Parker at 17:21:34 Saturday December 30 2000
Oi Posh if Fatty Fry did not eat so much you could afford undersoil heating at your "wonderful" ground!!!
S.S. at 16:51:10 Saturday December 30 2000
All over,2-2
POSH at 16:46:15 Saturday December 30 2000
One word - PATHETIC ;)
S.S. at 16:45:49 Saturday December 30 2000
Gabbi on for Savage. What's up Pish? Can't go to rushden 'cause boro are (not) away ?
britgal at 16:44:7 Saturday December 30 2000
cos i have to go to work very soon. cos i cannot get there, not being able to drive and all. Cos all the money i have in the world is £1.20 and $100, and i have a feeling they don't accept american money at 6fields. Cos i have coursework to finish for 2 days time. Cos i went to the last few games and my parents don't want to drive 4 nearly an hour in the icy conditions again for a team they don't even support... shall i go on? :)
POSH at 16:43:15 Saturday December 30 2000
Oh, I forgot your cunning plan. Convince the football trust to give you money to expand a ground you can't fill beyond two thirds now. Homer would be proud of that one !!!!!!
S.S. at 16:40:54 Saturday December 30 2000
HOWARD GOAL
britgal at 16:40:44 Saturday December 30 2000
goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POSH at 16:35:41 Saturday December 30 2000
What I can't understand is why so many of you are on this site and not where you should be, AT THE BLOODY GAME???????
britgal at 16:20:53 Saturday December 30 2000
finally back to the cobblers: crooks stretchered off, hodge on. still 2-1 tho.
britgal at 16:10:29 Saturday December 30 2000
and now back to the saints...
britgal at 16:5:22 Saturday December 30 2000
another defensive error leads to a wycombe goal, less than 2 mins into 2nd half. 2-1
cre at 15:56:55 Saturday December 30 2000
i love northamptom
Anon at 15:48:55 Saturday December 30 2000
Half Time 1-1
JM at 15:38:42 Saturday December 30 2000
Thanx.
britgal at 15:37:10 Saturday December 30 2000
i didn't bet in the end. :( If i had have done, no doubt we would lose. That would be typical. Because i was going to, but didn't, we will win. Anyway, they r still doing the saints on the radio
JM at 15:33:57 Saturday December 30 2000
Did you place the bet Britgal ?
Britgal at 15:27:12 Saturday December 30 2000
i was just about to say to John McRirrick Not to worry, we will still win, and The God scored!!! Now the cobblers fans seem to have woken up
britgal at 15:25:16 Saturday December 30 2000
Crooks on a run down the left with the ball, Howard passed to Jamie, deflected, Jamie shoots again... GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anon at 15:24:16 Saturday December 30 2000
woops !
Anon at 15:23:55 Saturday December 30 2000
Britgal, what happened to the commentary ?. Does silence mean their doing the rugby
britgal at 15:23:4 Saturday December 30 2000
still 1-0, struggling more than wycombe in icy conditions. Green passes to hargreaves, fouled... we win a free kick. Hargreaves has been booked along with one of theirs, for off the ball fighting. yellow card for each
Anon at 15:22:55 Saturday December 30 2000
John Mcrirrick at 15:17:42 Saturday December 30 2000
Let me amend my previous response Britgal, at the moment 6/5 looks like bad odds.
britgal at 15:12:7 Saturday December 30 2000
if anyone cares, the saints are almost sold out, over 9000 fans apparently. Wycombe attacking... cross in, deflected into area... shot from wycombe goes over the goal
britgal at 15:7:40 Saturday December 30 2000
shit. They scored from a badly cleared free kick. Former Cobbler Steve Brown scored 1- to wycombe
Britgal at 15:3:56 Saturday December 30 2000
Game just kicked off and already Jamie is injured. They have gone to the rugby while he is treated by the physio
John Mcrirrick at 14:4:34 Saturday December 30 2000
Britgal, with regard to the betting odds, whether you consider them good odds really depends on whether or not you consider we have a better than 50/50 chance of winning this afternoon, if you do, they are, if you don't they're not. For your information though, Derek Mcgovern in the Daily Mirror lists us as one of his five Banker Bets.
The Oxford Astronaut at 14:3:9 Saturday December 30 2000
Greetings fellow astronauts!
I guess like me you regularily visit Spacestation Sixfields. Isn't it amazing how life survives with no atmoshere.
The game with Bristol City got me thinking, as i was listening to the child cough in the opposite stand - it wasn't that long ago when 15,000 of us(unoffical police estimate, outside the ground, having delayed kick-off to get us all in)packed in to see a bunch of turkeys called Cardiff, get stuffed around Christmas. Most of us then were STANDING UP, BEHIND THE GOAL. The noise was awesome.
Then, there we were again at Pishboro turkeys last week, and whilst not 15,000, 3,000 were there STANDING and making that same awesome row, BEHIND THE GOAL.
Now being astronauts, we may be blest with higher interlect, but it isn't rocket science to work out the sum: NOISE=STANDING UP + BEHIND THE GOAL=MORE PASSION=MORE GOALS=PROMOTION=MORE £££'S.
Surely the powers that be asked the majority of fans what was needed at their new football stadium, didn't they? They did didn't they.....??????!!!!!
With 40,000 astronauts in outer space waiting to land every week, either start issuing oxygen or, God forbid, listen to Kate Howey,take out the seats behind the goal, put up a few barriers,no need to reduce prices,and let the returning 40,000 make you rip down the Bowen stand in 2 years, and make an END to be afraid of if you are a visiting turkey!
On that subject, why not make 27th January a CLARET DAY. Just imagine the sight form the south stand,assuming they turn up!
The Oxford Astronaut
Anon at 13:45:48 Saturday December 30 2000
I suppose we could have done with a noon kick-off today, it's quite nice at the moment. As the sun goes down we can expect a few tyre changes, it will interesting to see if it finishes. Here's to three points though.
Phil Baron at 13:43:54 Saturday December 30 2000
AAhhhhhhhh nice and warm in my house.......
Just Interested at 13:9:58 Saturday December 30 2000
BritGal - How many turned up? How many is quite a few?
I remember these things at 13:8:44 Saturday December 30 2000
Will WSD be wearing a pink shirt?
britgal at 13:4:38 Saturday December 30 2000
thanx Gambler!!
Gambler at 12:49:42 Saturday December 30 2000
Britgal, it means for a fiver stake you'd win £6, plus your stake back, so a total return of £11 from your £5 stake.
S.S. at 12:38:23 Saturday December 30 2000
Ugly boy - who are you to be so judgemental ?
Anon at 12:32:12 Saturday December 30 2000
Stop calling me Surely
Stay Where You Are Ugly Boy at 12:31:32 Saturday December 30 2000
Star Spotter? surely when associated with that imposter surely you mean Sh*t Stabber.
Star Spotter at 12:29:54 Saturday December 30 2000
He certainly isn't paying for his ticket
Anon at 12:28:27 Saturday December 30 2000
First match this season will it be?
Star Spotter at 12:22:7 Saturday December 30 2000
W.S.D. WILL be at sixfields this afternoon
britgal at 12:21:0 Saturday December 30 2000
yey! Ok, i can't go to the match, for a number of reasons :( but i can do updates on the net if needed?
splat at 12:17:46 Saturday December 30 2000
I don't know that much either britgal but I think that means we're favourites to win, COME ON COBBLERS!
Anon at 12:16:28 Saturday December 30 2000
...bet hes not in the centre of the defence....
splat at 12:15:55 Saturday December 30 2000
if Luton, 'burra, R+D et al can all rent them out, I really don't see why NTFC should have a problem?
britgal at 12:15:54 Saturday December 30 2000
i know nothing about betting so i was wondering, are these good odds? ... Northampton boss Kevin Wilson is boosted by the fact that Dave Savage should be fit to return after a bout of flu, and winger John Hodge is set to make his first start since November after recovering from a leg injury ... Wycombe boss Lawrie Sanchez will be without youngster Ben Townsend, who has a hamstring injury, as the Chairboys seek to leapfrog their hosts with victory ... Betting: Northampton 6/5, Wycombe 15/8, Draw 9/4 ...
Anon at 12:15:18 Saturday December 30 2000
Richard Green is in the Centre of the programme 2day if ne1's interested???? !!!!!!!
splat at 12:14:38 Saturday December 30 2000
and why wouldn't we be able to rent them out?
Rachel at 12:14:34 Saturday December 30 2000
Yer, quite a few turned up! Even more would have been useful...!!! You should have come anyway, the extra hands would have made the job easier for all concerned!
Anon at 12:12:34 Saturday December 30 2000
They only bring in loads of money if you can rent them out.
splat at 12:10:44 Saturday December 30 2000
Exec boxes anywhere would be fanatastic! These must bring quite substantial amounts of money to a club, and i for one would not be complaining! Not only that but that also look good adding a professional looking image? Whats wrong with exec boxes at the end of the ground?
splat at 12:6:44 Saturday December 30 2000
did a lot of supporters turn up Rachel? only found out at 10am this morning that supporters were required, thought was a bit late by then! Will be there later though!
Anon at 12:5:24 Saturday December 30 2000
Who the hell wants an executive box at the end of a ground? FYI, One of the reasons TNT stopped sponsoring the Cobblers was the lack of executive boxes.
Rachel at 12:3:22 Saturday December 30 2000
Hi all just got bak from 6fields + I think we did a good job, pitch is near clear of snow. The sides are piled high but its off the pitch. Been there since 8 this morning. Mind the floor in the stands, some places icy!! WATCH YA STEP!
splat at 12:2:10 Saturday December 30 2000
So why don't they just do the opposite and increase North stand with exec boxes and keep away fans in south? I'm sure this is the next stage of development anyway?
Ray at 11:55:32 Saturday December 30 2000
Personally I would tend to agree with the police on this one. Having the away supporters in the North Stand has several problems (A) Segregation of fans would become more difficult - the majrity of the home disabled parking is right behind the North Stand (b) All coach parking for away supporters is directly behind the South Stand so that means they can be herding in very quickly. (c) The car park they are directed to (if they aren't on a coach) mean that they will have walk through the queues of home supporters getting into the West Stand. (ad back again after the game). (d) They will be seated directed next to the Family Enclosure - surely not a good idea (e) Do people sitting in the North want to move from their regular seats?
Ground developments. at 11:48:26 Saturday December 30 2000
OK, this is what the club is considering. South stand to be expanded and to include Executive boxes, and North Stand to become away end. No prizes for guessing which organisation is objecting to these proposals, none other than our friendly, helpful local police force, who are voicing concerns about away supporters car-parking problems. (Never mind about home supporters current bloody car-parking problems). Anyway, what do other people think?
Ray at 11:28:11 Saturday December 30 2000
Bit short notice - but I have a spare ticket for this afternoon. Mail me NOW if you are interested.
Ray at 11:14:41 Saturday December 30 2000
Don't forget your trumpets this afternoon.
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 11:8:31 Saturday December 30 2000
Yeah, yeah, very bloody funny eh ?? See yer soon folks.....Finished work.......home, boozer then naturally Sixfields. C`mon Cobblers !!!!
Ralph at 11:5:57 Saturday December 30 2000
Come on Ray, keep up!
Ray at 11:0:44 Saturday December 30 2000
Match ON!!
Phil at 10:52:59 Saturday December 30 2000
This is the latest new from teamtalk: The wife of BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler has a birthmark on her right bum cheek and it has been confirmed by every single manager, player and coach in the football league (apart from Barry Fry who when questioned said "I prefer young boys")
Snake at 10:52:24 Saturday December 30 2000
The Cobblers will be looking at a gate of 4,500 today I reckon. Reasons?
1. The Saints have a big game
2. They charge extortionate prices for mediocre football
3. 3 big games in a week costs!
4. People will be unaware if the game is on or not and will amke other plans
See you all at Sixfields anyway!
Right Bum Cheek at 10:42:3 Saturday December 30 2000
The game is ON! See official news.
CSA at 10:40:22 Saturday December 30 2000
Right bum cheek
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 10:39:57 Saturday December 30 2000
For those of you who think it`s the right cheek, I can only assume that you don`t use a mirror eh ?? :-)) he he he (oh ohhhhhhhh)
MartinW at 10:39:29 Saturday December 30 2000
As I hinted earlier on the match IS on. The club have now confirmed that the Wycmbe game will take palce. According to a club statement: " The match referee has looked at the conditions and he has given the game the go ahead. Northampton Town Football Club would like to sincerely thank all supporters who turned up at Sixfields this morning to help with the pitch clearing operation. "
Bristol City at 10:38:50 Saturday December 30 2000
Right bum cheek.
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 10:38:17 Saturday December 30 2000
Ok, ok..........So which of you owes me the maintenance money then ??
North Stand at 10:38:1 Saturday December 30 2000
Right bum cheek, no question.
WSD at 10:37:14 Saturday December 30 2000
Yep - Right bum cheek.
Ernie at 10:36:27 Saturday December 30 2000
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr - No I'm your milkman, and it's definitely right bum cheek.
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 10:32:8 Saturday December 30 2000
Anon, are you my milkman ???
Anon at 10:29:13 Saturday December 30 2000
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - Right bum cheek.
MartinW at 10:22:44 Saturday December 30 2000
Deepcut, because I have been away for Xmas I have missed the recording of the Peterborough goals (of course if anyone knows how I can access them I would be obliged) I have Savage's goal against Bristol that willbe uploaded and the full service will be back in order as of today. Unless of course we become shit again. ha ha
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 10:21:55 Saturday December 30 2000
This job SUCKS !!!!!! I mean, which other boss would have their star employee looking for dandelion leaves to feed his rabbit in this weather ???
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 10:18:3 Saturday December 30 2000
Missus has a birthmark on her left bum cheek...............Or maybe you do know that too ??? :-))
Anon at 10:14:5 Saturday December 30 2000
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - So tell us something we don't know!
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler, It`s official at 9:53:52 Saturday December 30 2000
Sixfields pitch latest
The Sixfields pitch is bearing up well underneath the covers and the snow. The plan is for the snow to be removed early on Saturday morning, and the Sixfields groundsman is 70:30 confident of the game going ahead.
There will be a further announcement regarding pitch conditions shortly after 11am on Saturday morning, once the snow has been removed, and the match referee, who makes the final decision, has looked at the conditions.
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 9:51:52 Saturday December 30 2000
Oh yeah, I'm at work so i couldn`t get down the Wonderous pasture for 8am ok...............
BrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrCobbler at 9:50:38 Saturday December 30 2000
Friggin ell.......... I wonder just how many "casual" fans will arrive today with the weather so bad ? I know of one bloke from work who won`t come as a result of the weather, of course he will be abused for England, but I'm sure the casual won`t be arsed will they ?
Just Woke Up and Heard the Saints Are On at 9:47:57 Saturday December 30 2000
yawn!
Eastander at 9:30:33 Saturday December 30 2000
I forgot something, on the subject of giving the east stand to away fans FORGET IT! I used to stand at the hotel end at the county ground I now sit in the east stand and I wouldn't go back to watching just half of the game.
Eastander at 9:26:29 Saturday December 30 2000
Its good that Wilson's looking at the defence they definitely looked fragile against boro and bristol city when we could have been 3 down before we scored. On the subject of Gabbiadini, sitting at Peterboro I noticed Frain,Hodge,Hunter,Howey and some of the youth join the crowd for the game but not Gabbiadini, I know he was suspended, but was he there? if the spirit's as good as is said in the dressing room he should have been
pitch inspection 2 at 9:3:36 Saturday December 30 2000
11 am
Pitch Inspection at 8:33:3 Saturday December 30 2000
WHEN IS IT???
Real tales at 8:32:39 Saturday December 30 2000
Ray get a life, the postings were real extracts from a real book called the Football Syndrome by John Moynihan the brother I think of the ex sports minister -dont think that you have the copyright on the past many of us were there pre 1st Division days!! Frank Large and the Swansea fan!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 6:59:44 Saturday December 30 2000
MartinW, I know you refused to show opposition goals, but now we have started to score again how about updating your site with the P@@h and Bristol goals? Some of us do not have the opportunity to see them otherwise. Any goals against P@@h are worth their weight an I am yet to see. Many Thanks. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
CDU's Mate at 3:4:27 Saturday December 30 2000
Oooops just slid in a lazy 8-0 big one for the Cobbs toMorrow Ray.Only problem just a tad past 12 Midnight! Any chance of cutting us a bit of slack on the comp rules and letting a dead cert 10 pointer in the backdoor?
CDU's Mate at 3:0:59 Saturday December 30 2000
Aaahhh !!-Cheers Trueman, that curly haired bastard from Sussex !! I remember Chappelli sorting him out !! Then of course we found Lillee (D.K.) and Thomson (Bastard Large) out the back west of Woop Woop and the rest as they say is histiory !! Well boys and girls if a medium quick from Sussex is the only issue the game's on for sure !! 8-0 Cobbs.!!!!
the bigman at 1:2:54 Saturday December 30 2000
all's not that bad! you could have a tactically inept manager like brian talbot
Ralph at 0:57:17 Saturday December 30 2000
Someone mention a soft tart?
Anon at 0:50:2 Saturday December 30 2000
Phil Barron, what kind of football supporter are you if you can't watch the game in the cold whether. If Basingstoke were able to get that FA Cup game on a few years back, I'm sure we've got a game tomorrow you soft tart.
Trueman at 0:15:6 Saturday December 30 2000
CDU - Snow was the scurge of the Aussies back in the sixties!
Deepcut Cobbler at 0:12:42 Saturday December 30 2000
Picking up on the point about the North Stand being only half full on Boxing Day. As I said before, the majority of patrons to the North Stand do not have the financial resources to commit to either a season ticket or purchasing their ticket in advance. They are normally the spur of the moment, if funds are in the pocket, at a loose end " Lets go to the Cobbs" turn up on the day brigade. If the North Stand was only half full for these reasons thats 4-500 lost from that stand alone!! The ticketing policy has to be reviewed and quick. The water is not being collected to save us during the drought!! COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
West Stand at 0:12:33 Saturday December 30 2000
Watch out for my shadow, it is deep, crisp and uneven!
Ray at 23:13:52 Friday December 29 2000
What you should do is listen to the real tales :-) (like the Cobblers being relegated because the linesman fell over)
Tales of Yesterday at 22:33:9 Friday December 29 2000
I enjoyed reading the tales of the Cobblers in the sixties yesterday, but it seemed no one else did they just wanted to be moaning and boring as normal
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ at 22:13:41 Friday December 29 2000
The rest of you are -------------------------------- and you will never know any better! I just love the Cobblers!!!!!
MartinW at 21:31:36 Friday December 29 2000
I was told by admin that the groundsman felt that the ground was soft underneath and that the game SHOULD be on. I was told the ground had been covered. Left me in little doubt. I'll be miffed if there it is because there seemed very little doubt. But there seems to be a lot of doubt from people in Northampton - an 11 am pitch inspection. Great news about the signing of another defender 21-year-old Barry Ferguson from Coventry City until the end of the season. His experience with six Republic of Ireland under 21 caps and being a regular in the Coventry FA Premier Reserve League side over the last couple seasons will come in useful. Great point by Mal about the bus stopping off places.
I know there probably isn't the demand in good old Aylesbury, I don't know but if the bus stopped off at Milton Keynes - I'd definitely be up for joining that. The club should look at its fan base and try and encourage more people to travel on the supporters bus by choosing convenient stopping points - outside Northampton.
COME ON COBBLERS!
CDU's Mate at 21:31:17 Friday December 29 2000
What the f*ck's snow ?
Anon at 21:26:35 Friday December 29 2000
Our snow is better than the Saint's snow!
Paul at 21:13:8 Friday December 29 2000
And stop with all the "rumour's"!! What do you want to do? Destroy the club by creating these false story's?? Marco and Kevin are BEST mates... they used to live next to each other, and anyone in the know will tell you they are STILL best mates. When Marco is on the pitch, it doesn't matter if he doesn't score, his first touch and passing is 1st class!
Paul at 21:11:8 Friday December 29 2000
I see there is a right bunch of moaning negative people on here tonight? On the Anglia news tonight the Saints groundsman was explaining how the snow was insulating their pitch. Now don't get me wrong I know we don't play there, but being just up the road I'm pretty sure our snow is doing the same. So stop moaning and get your lazzy "ate too much at Christmas" butts down to Sixfields tomorrow and clear some snow!!!!!!
anon at 20:42:51 Friday December 29 2000
latest rumour i heard was that stonhill is tight for cash and can hardly afford players wages at the mo and in jan he will be well short of cash and he'll have to sell! guess who super J! hope not we'll be up s*it creek without a paddle if that happens!
Nanouk at 20:35:56 Friday December 29 2000
In order for snow to have any insulative properties it must have a minimum depth of ten inches, the frost will then only freeze the top few inches of snow. If it is only a couple of inches deep the snow will freeze and offer no protection and the ground will in turn freeze, blanket or not.
Rodney at 19:53:33 Friday December 29 2000
Wilson and Marco were best mates and that makes it difficult. Earlier in the season Wilson was clearly making the effort to keep all three strikers involved. I just thought that Marco's exclusion on Boxing Day was ominous. As for the Flabbiadini tag, no offence intended but the guy is well overweight. I still think he could have a part to play based purely on ability but methinks that there are hidden agendas afoot.
Science for beginners at 19:51:41 Friday December 29 2000
The snow will have acted like an insulation blanket, keeping the ground beneath just above freezing. Ask the next Eskimo you meet.
Rodney at 19:49:1 Friday December 29 2000
The pitch is actually soft under the covers at the moment, so get on down there tomorrow. I live in Hampshire so it is hard enough getting there at all. It was similar versus Cardiff four years ago and the pitch was fine in the end. As for the Wilkinson argument, if you ash Barnsley fans they will tell you that he was the main man in getting them promotion to the Prem just two years before he joined us. Maybe Marco Golo has peaked. He's 33 in a few days' time and players can lose it at around that age. Any thoughts?
Bartram at 19:38:49 Friday December 29 2000
Ferguson looks like another strong signing, 6ft 3ins, 21, central defender, included in tomorrow's squad. He is on loan until the end of the season. So if he plays him then it must be Green who makes way, interesting.
PC Sonny at 19:29:33 Friday December 29 2000
Oops! Should have said 'they' and not 'he', I do apologise.
Sonny at 19:28:4 Friday December 29 2000
Seven games in our division are already off and ground is so full of frost it will takes several days to thaw, surely the covers aren't that effective? A massive incentive to get the game on as it will attract that breed of diehards the 'casual fan' with so many games off. You can always tell a 'casual fan' from the rest of us as he usually wears a Fred Perry and Italian slingbacks!
Hot blooded Cobbler at 19:26:9 Friday December 29 2000
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............. me !
Phil Baron at 19:24:49 Friday December 29 2000
Its not worth going down at 8am the pitch underneath will be like concrete and with it due down to -6 would anyone want to play on it anyway? Also who wants to watch it when its that cold!!!
Wizz at 19:0:27 Friday December 29 2000
Flabbiadini!?!? So this is how we get behind our players is it? You are probably right Rodney it would appear that Wilson and Marco have fallen out, too often this was a failing of Ian Atkins, I won't list them but you probably remember who. There is no room for bloody mindedness and if this is the case then it is the manager's responsibility to sit the bloke down and get things sorted. Team building I think it's called. I am no expert but even before Wilkinson's had kicked a ball for us his signing was always going to be a nonsense. Even when the bloke was young enough and fit enough to have it he never had it! Atkins was told twice not to sign him but went ahead, ask any Middlesborough or Everton fan what he was like. On the other hand the signing of Marco was met with disbelief that the club could attract a player with his proven track record. Look back at some of the comments on this very board. My frustration is that the Cobblers have not been able to get the best out of him and enevitably he will move on and that's a shame. His time here has seen him on the bench too often and played out of position when brought on. The form of Forrester and Howard make it difficult to accomodate but nevertheless I still believe, if included in the team, he can make a huge contribution if we are to realise a play-off place. Richard Hope must be the unluckiest of players at the club. Our central defenders are at best slow and are getting on in years, Hope has turned in super performances when played but it looks as though his future is to be away from Northampton too. Strange this because Wilson appears not to shy away from playing younger players.
Ray at 18:54:11 Friday December 29 2000
Better things to do than get a match played?
Frank Sidebottom at 18:28:24 Friday December 29 2000
I would have to say that most people would have better things to do on a Saturday morning than go down to the mighty Sixfields and help to clear the snow off the playing surface. You never know the snow might make the cobblers play better. (A very annoyed Liverpool fan that our match is already off)
anon at 18:22:55 Friday December 29 2000
richard green you are the weakest link.GOODBYE??.
Anon at 17:58:33 Friday December 29 2000
Whos comming down Sixfields 2mora morning to help clear the snow off?
Rodney at 17:49:49 Friday December 29 2000
How can I compare them? Both were 'big name' signings who were expected to score hatfuls of goals for us. Neither did and I reckon that you are in a very small minority if you think that Marco is going to 'turn it round'. At times he has looked disinterested and as he had played a part in every game up to his suspension, in a number of different roles, how can the manager be blamed? The fact that Hughes came on for Savage while Marco remained on the bench does not bode well for Flabbiadini. If I'm proved wrong then I will be delighted.
Wizz at 17:43:13 Friday December 29 2000
How can you compere Marco and Wilkinson!!!! Sadness is we have not seen the best of Marco, a failure of Wilson's maybe. We probably DID see the best of Wilkinson!
Rodney at 17:35:50 Friday December 29 2000
Poor old Richard Hope. Until his injury at Bury the guy was playing brilliantly - remember Wycombe away? - but with yet another loan defender arriving, his future prospects look bleak. Incidentally, the recent announcement that Howey is close to a return does not quite fit in with a season long loan signing of Ferguson, does it? At least the board are backing KW with money, though.
Has anyone else heard the rumour that KW has fallen out with Marco? Is this merely gossip or is there truth in the chinese whispers. I just hope that Marco does not turn out to be another Wilkinesque millstone.
What will u moan about next? at 17:26:55 Friday December 29 2000
Northampton snow is not as white as Darlingtons!! The Club should have ordered Wellingtons for the Club Shop? The programme shop is great, that why havent we got the commercial sense that Posh demonstrated in terms of 2 shops that I saw there may be more!!
TRB Mark at 17:4:53 Friday December 29 2000
Paul, it's a myth that the further north you go the colder it gets.
TRB Mark at 17:3:39 Friday December 29 2000
Reading have undersoil heating so the game should be on. They have called off the Rugby game scheduled for tomorrow to keep the pitch in good nick, so my Reading supporting friend tells me.
Anon at 16:43:32 Friday December 29 2000
DONT BE DAFT - THE BOARD DONT WANT US TO SUCCEED
Paul at 15:44:57 Friday December 29 2000
It seems the board think we have a chance of Division 1 football next season, so they are going all out on supporting Kev with these Loan signings. I think it's a good thing, but I am still eating humble pie from my comments about how Kev should be sacked after Oxford!
Mystic at 15:33:36 Friday December 29 2000
Barry Fergusson from Coventry!!!!
Please discuss!!!
Paul at 15:32:34 Friday December 29 2000
Also the Chron reports today that the pitch WAS covered prior to the snowfall!
Paul at 15:29:42 Friday December 29 2000
Villa DON'T have undersoil heating, which explains why there game was called off. Plus it was a LOT colder and more snow fell in Birmingham. As for Everton I can't comment, but maybe as it's further North it was even worse up there!
The Drilling Cobbler at 15:8:32 Friday December 29 2000
Very good idea Pattcobb about making the East Stand into the away end. However, this might cause dismay amongst season ticket holders there who dont want to change their seat either now or in future seasons and sit somewhere else. I sit in the North stand in the same seat as I did when the ground opened and personnally it wouldnt bother me if I was asked to sit somewhere else if it benefitted the club as I am sure your suggestion would if put into practise. Unfortunately though alot of people are adverse to change and would start complaining if they were asked to sit in another stand whatever the reason that was given. Also you would have the problem of access - presently away fans and home fans do not really come into contact but if they were to have the East stand there would be more chance of supporters mixing at the end of games thus creating possible problems, unless they were kept inside the ground for a period of time after the final whisle which is a solution that I would personnally disagree with. The simplest way of dealing with the problem is too just increase the away end initially to say 2-3000 - this would surely not be that expensive and would probably have a knock on affect on the level of attendances in the home sections of the ground because all ticket restrictions would not be neccessary apart from when a huge club like Man City, West Ham etc play us - and for those sort of games people are prepared to put themselves out more to purchase tickets. This cannot be said when the likes of Rotherham and Oxford come to town!
Wizz at 14:37:47 Friday December 29 2000
It will not be the snow that means the game is called off, it will be the frozen pitch underneath. Everton and Villa both have undersoil heating and their games have already been called off. With temperatures expected to plummet again tonight no amount of shovels and wheel barrows will save this one. My forecast is a bottle of what you fancy, fire on high and a good book. See you at the Madjeski (maybe).
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Bartram at 14:31:23 Friday December 29 2000
Some away support only bring a handful and that's a lot of stand. Ask the season ticket holders who love sitting in the east stand how they feel about moving and I'm sure they wont be backward in coming forward.
PATTCOBB at 14:22:22 Friday December 29 2000
Hey I'm on fire today aren't I.What about this one....Allocate the East stand to away supporters thus increasing their capacity(and i am sure incrasing Sixfields' atmosphere) make South stand an all cash on the day stand,but only admit on production of cards or booking numbers to bona fida supporters or local residents and do not bandy the booking numbers about like confetti as before- as I believe it your were given a booking numer for purchasing a ticket whether you bought a one off or for every game this clearly didn't define whether you were a Cobblers fan or an exiled fan of another club,but surely if your were local but supported another club you would be unlikely to cause a disturbance.....The family enclosure and tandem/tricycle ticket areas could easily be accomodated in the West Stand...Also Contrary to what Mr Gareth Willshire has said when football supporters travel to away games they WANT to wear their teams colours and they WANT to sit in an away end with there own supporters.
Rachel at 13:51:8 Friday December 29 2000
Just a wonder but did they cover the pitch before the downfall of snow?? Cos if not I doubt it will be playable
PATTCOBB at 13:50:55 Friday December 29 2000
And what Sir Robert of Walocshire really means is he has given his chauffeur the week off.Seriously please someone pick him up because I didn't buy the fanzine on Boxing Day,I had intended to buy it Saturday.
PATTCOBB at 13:47:41 Friday December 29 2000
You see Idon't just talk rubbish all the time.Interestingly Mal Rubbish & Dustbins provide coaches from Wellingboro,Rushden and Higham Ferrers for home games at Nene Park.
Rob Marshall at 13:22:16 Friday December 29 2000
Help!!! My car doesn't like this weather, and I may be stuck up here for Saturday's game. Anyone travelling down from the North/Nottingham area able to give me a lift? I'll share petrol costs. E-mail me please.
Mal at 11:23:24 Friday December 29 2000
Pattcob, you are absolutely right in your comments about how the club markets itself. With all the backroom staff they have, I would have thought a real marketing expert was essential. In that, I don't mean a press officer, but someone who really understands how to market the club and get bums on seats. Your are right about where is the supporter base. I am a Milton Keynes season ticket holder and have supported the club for over 40 years from old third division up to first and down again. Every week I see loads of people from MK and follow many cars coming into sixfields. But my main argument is lack of marketing, e.g Why do none of the away supporters coaches pick up in MK? For that matter, I think they might fill a bus for home games! Their are now nearly 200,000 people in MK and they don't have a professional Football club. I see more for Luton and Arsenal than I do for the Cobblers and we are the closest club.
Wizz at 11:15:22 Friday December 29 2000
I've spoken with Marley and Scrooge and been told to sod off!!!!!
PATTCOBB at 11:10:35 Friday December 29 2000
Quickly as I'm supposed to be working! Have just e-mailed a general question to Baxter and platts just asking how closely they work with NBC and NTFC. What chance do you think they have actually heard of us at all? Will let you know of any reply.
Cliff at 11:8:52 Friday December 29 2000
and hello Samantha . . .
PATTCOBB at 10:50:53 Friday December 29 2000
Supporters pay the cost of low gates!!!!!!!! For all those who accuse us of moaning and whingeing about non-football matters,do not forget that if there is a substantial shortfall this year,it's goodbye Jamie,goodbye Howard and goodbye Hunt etc etc and hello pricerises next season even if we remain in the same division.So folks speak now because it will effect us all eventually!!
Ralph at 10:37:16 Friday December 29 2000
Someone mention curry?
Big Roy at 10:23:22 Friday December 29 2000
Hello CDU. Warm over there is it?
GornBut Not Forgotten at 10:20:24 Friday December 29 2000
Why not just have a decent curry and fart the snow away ? More tea vicartoria?
Big Roy at 10:18:52 Friday December 29 2000
Very freaky indeed!
Big Roy at 10:17:36 Friday December 29 2000
News just in on official site "In spite of the cold weather conditions, the club are confident that the
above match will go ahead. Should this change, the club will keep you
informed.
We are however, asking for supporters to help us clear the pitch of snow.
We would ask any volunteers to arrive at the main entrance to Sixfields at
8am on Saturday morning armed with spades, wheelbarrows and brushes. Any
volunteers who could spare any time would be greatly appreciated.
Club Secretary
Northampton Town Football Club
M at 10:14:47 Friday December 29 2000
Freaky Big Roy we should talk about the same thing at the same time, are we telepathetic?
M at 10:13:41 Friday December 29 2000
Does anyone know if there is a chance the game is likely to be cancelled tomorrow?
Big Roy at 10:13:29 Friday December 29 2000
Just had a look at the pitch - nicely covered in snow. Can't tell if the covers are on underneath it all but I hope they are. If we don't get a quick thaw then there's going to be a lot of snow clearing before tomorrow afternoon! Volunteers again? Sing - "Blob the groundsman, can he fix it? Blob the groundsman, yes he can!"
Cramp In The Fteru at 10:5:55 Friday December 29 2000
Reading that piece of poop Anon you'd do well to read.............
Anon at 9:52:51 Friday December 29 2000
I have read with interest over the last few weeks the comments made by some but not all so called supporters. They are of simple mind, moan when they win about fellow supporters, facilities and directors and when they lose instantly go for the manager or any player whose turn it just happens to be.
It's time for a few home truths
1. What were the expectations of this season - 8th by xmas ?
2.Last season the major moan was no goal scorer, now you have got one what a surprise other people want him too. Lets all moan about selling eh ( when the time comes ).
3.When he is sold lets then attack the directors for lack of foresight in trying to keep the club on an even keel rather than focusing on promotion to a division they would not survive in. Ok I hear you say we could survive if Jammie stayed on. A possibility but one man does not make a team.
4. To progress out of Div 2 needs two things a bit of luck and a rich sugar daddy who has more passion for the club in his little finger than most writers put together on this site.
So my new year wish is for the mighty cobbs to consolidate in Div 2, start attracting more real supporters, who perhaps each put a little cash into the club. £5 a week each from say 3000 true supporters would soon buy a few players and even keep some good ones. I'm prepared to pay are you ?
So please stop moaning , talk to some of the older supporters who will tell you about real hard times when 8th position in a raffle would have been seen as a brighter future was around the corner
CDU,s Mate at 9:49:1 Friday December 29 2000
Well Its your right to moan, BUT either go to the piece of crap FTT that the Green Haired Monster looks after and makes a disaster of including slating the Club or you could always try ntCunteefishooks which Sid runs and have a go at a Cobblers online game that involves Aston Villa & Coventry! not a Cobbler in site. If you don't like it here go somewhere else and stop whineing.This is THE best site for Cobbs fans end of story.
Hartwell at 9:47:39 Friday December 29 2000
One or two further observations on the all-ticket fiasco: the Chron on Wednesday reported a "holiday crowd of 6,000" - the implication being this was a bumper gate. In a way that is accurate - it was a big crowd for this season. But given all the circumstances we might have reasonably expected 7,000. As it was the actual number of local fans was just 4,800. I also have to agree PatCobb - the Saints do market themselves very well. They also welcome the casual fan - rather than make it nigh on impossible for them to attend. No wonder the Saints crowds are 7,000+ for league games. Rob Marshall says it's not the council's responsibility to expand the stadium. I understand where he's coming from on this but I think it's not a lack of ambition on their part - simply one of cost. Where could the council find that kind of money ? And even if it could, it would be hard put to justify the expenditure. So, in effect, Rob's right in as much as it is up to the Cobblers to find the money. But as I keep saying - what's the point when present police restrictions imposed upon the club means we haven't a hope in hell of filling the existing capacity ? Don't get me wrong: I'm as keen as anyone to see the stadium enlarged and feel it must be done. But the cost can only be justified if it's actually going to be financially viable (that is increasing the numbers of bums on seats). It's all down to the directors. I do believe they want the club to make progress. But it appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, they are not putting the all-ticketing policy to the top of their agenda. However, we probably lost the best part of £12k on the gate on Boxing Day and if that isn't enough to focus minds then what is ? We, the fans, are right to ask these questions of the board. And, once again, I would ask TCMP to update us on the issue. Bewcause it is an issue -- and a major one at that. Indeed it is stunting the growth of the club and if it goes on like this costs will run awsay with income to such an extent that we'll be seeing what we all dread and which has been a common factor in the operations of this club for years -- the enforced, and as such usually cheap -- sales of our best players. So the board cannot possibly separate the two issues - the current all-ticketing policy will, if it continues, mean the club's certain decline back into the bad old ways. It's so sad when this is preventable. Anyone there in the Board room ? If so can you heard the bells ringing ? If not, the balance sheet will eventually tell you the real story...
Its your right to moan, BUT!! at 9:29:30 Friday December 29 2000
The problem is that it restricts the number of people that visit this site, its so negative and people are always chasing a negative aspect even if we had won 8-0. The site ends up like a soap with just the regular Nob Heads and discussions about NetScape - what crap!!!! Instead of my daily visit I now look perhaps once every 2 weeks because what is said on here does not reflect the opinions of many of the fans at the games, i do talk to many of my `fellow' before during and after the games. Still you will carry on long modern day Ken Barlows!!
Ray at 9:22:59 Friday December 29 2000
Grana was taken over by the Compass Group and management of Sixfields was passed over the Baxter and Platt - who are basically a catering company. Check out their information on www.baxterandplatts.co.uk - there is even a contact form so you can write to them :-)
Ray at 9:9:44 Friday December 29 2000
... or was it Baxter and Platt?
Ray at 9:8:15 Friday December 29 2000
This may make you smile - the management company is now Baxter and Pratt.
PATTCOBB at 8:48:10 Friday December 29 2000
Also quickly to say that I agree entirely with "UNITY NOT BIG NOTERS "from last night we should perhaps be writing/e mailing the concil and the police on ticket matters.
PATTCOBB at 8:37:3 Friday December 29 2000
Just another angle on "the all-ticket fiaso" Although I am as frustrated as anyone with some of the Northants Gestapo's decisions,I am just as frustrated with the seeming lack of understanding the club seems to have with it's most important "ally",namely the stadium management company(who are they now Ray?).By definition it is the ticket office's job to sell tickets,in other words they provide a srvice to the club,the fans and the general public.This being the case why are their opening hours so resrictive as far as I am aware 10.00-17.00 and 10.00-19.00 on Fridays surely they should be open late more nights a week and weekends ie when people are not at work and able to get to Sixfields to purchase tickets.On the ticket outlet argument has the club/management company done any research into where ticket holders are based?I think they may be surprised.One last thing even though rugby is most certainly not my game I can"t help but be impresed by the way that the Saints seem to market their home games posters i have seen in Milton Keynes,Rushden and even Thrapston.It is the clubs responsibility to the manager and players to get the message across to the county and surrounding area.We are a decent side and you just might be entertained if you come to Sixfields.We sell tandem/tricycle/family tickets which makes it not as expensive as you think etc etc......It seems that the club from management through to board and including press officer with comments made to FTT last night,is bemoaning the fact that support is down compared to our relative success yet are reluctant to do things about it.
Another MK Cobbler at 8:0:24 Friday December 29 2000
The North Stand was half empty on Boxing Day. Where are all you so called fans?
ACE at 7:43:9 Friday December 29 2000
Now 'Board of Directors' can we get back to an intelligent discussion and would you try and answer any one of the questions raised instead of your own different agenda!
ACE at 7:12:43 Friday December 29 2000
Board of Directors 21.57.26 Thurs,you say I 'hide behind pseudunyms in cyberspace'therefore why didn't you leave your name.Well done you have just proved what a two faced prat you must be!!!COME ON THE COBBLERS keep achieving and improving.
Bill never at 0:12:27 Friday December 29 2000
Ray, I've gone back to 4.6. I'm glad it's not just me. I use a Mac so I can understand why they've chose the aqua colours, but you're right it really is a mess. I'll wait for 6.1
No Idea Really But Who Has Around Here at 0:12:11 Friday December 29 2000
lol Netscape 6 is crap but is only surpassed in its crapness by Windows ME.Nothing wrong with using a previous version of Netscape though :o)
Ray at 0:5:25 Friday December 29 2000
Yes - Netscape 6 is a pile of poo I'm afraid. I was always a Netscape fan (anything to stop using Bill Gate's crap) but they have now made such a dogs dinner of it that I've had to revert to MSIE. By the way for all those with Win98 - Windows Me is on special offer at the moment and it saves hours of time.
Anon at 23:59:48 Thursday December 28 2000
probably not
Anti bill at 23:58:39 Thursday December 28 2000
funny, that's what tech support said
Anon at 23:56:3 Thursday December 28 2000
To Anti Bill it aint you its your crap machine ha ha
Anon at 23:55:50 Thursday December 28 2000
probably more than you.
andy at 23:52:58 Thursday December 28 2000
to anon just below - how many millions have you donated to The Cobblers then?
Andy at 23:50:9 Thursday December 28 2000
If moaning cobbler is right, and why not?, It should be a guiding sign (how festive) for The Cobblers. Wycombe have no league history and are literally building foundations for a secure future. Good for them - mind you, still hate their pathetic, no history johnny come lately, who do you think you are? you're going back to to conference team, etc. etc.
Anon at 23:44:3 Thursday December 28 2000
perhaps because their board isnt a load of tosspots?
Rodney Marshall(Moaning Cobbler) at 23:30:22 Thursday December 28 2000
It should not be the council's responsibility to enlarge Sixfields. It's up to the club. We are - in effect - virtually the sole users of the ground. Wycombe will once again be undergoing radical expansion of Adams Park in the summer. It's gone up from c.7000 to 10000 and will soon rise to 12000. This on gates smaller than ours and with more money spent on the team. They don't have a Max Griggs type benefaxctor. So how come they can do it and we cant?
Anti Bill at 23:7:23 Thursday December 28 2000
Anyone else find netscape 6 soo sloow or is it just me?
Anon at 22:59:29 Thursday December 28 2000
ACE, what do you want, the board to wipe your sad arse every time you take a shit?
Unity not Big Noters are needed at 22:51:53 Thursday December 28 2000
Whilst Hartwell verbages eloquently he has stated that with all his close personal friends at the Club and the "appearance" of the Politician on these pages nothing other than gumph has been seen or done by the Club re the Ticketing situation. The response to Brenda from said Hartwell in dismissing her suggestion in an offhanded,superior way is typical of the way that we are being treated by the Club in our striving for answers. You do not have the answers Hartwell and having read your comments neither do your wonderous contacts at the Club. Maybe it is time to start parle with the "landlords", after all why speak to the monkey when the organ grinders on hand. Who employs the Police in Northamptonshire?
Andy at 22:38:47 Thursday December 28 2000
It's totally ridiculous to allow the police to have absolute authority when a company can allow people to buy it's product. If they adopted the same reasoning every pub in Bridge Street would close on weekends at 8pm. You can get in at the gate at many prem and 1st div games that have at least 5 times the attendance. Sixfieds is nowhere near any residents and has the best access possible, the M1, on it's door. So if they can't cope with that, what can they cope with?
TRB Mark at 22:34:2 Thursday December 28 2000
Maybe a possible solution would be to have outlets for tickets @ say The Castle Theatre W'boro, The new theatre (the name escapes me) in MK and @ Derngate. Then, on the day of any all ticket game, just shut the Sixfields terminal. The chances of away fans finding the other outlets if they came down on the off chance of buying a ticket for the home section of an all ticket game must be pretty slim.
Someone also needs to explain to the council that you can't operate to full capacity all the time. After all, Marehold car park isn't always full when ever I park there, apart from @ Christmas. It didn't stop the council from building St John's did it??
Of course the easiest and most likely solution is that we eventually get relegated back to Div 3 and the council and police can breath a collective sigh of relief.
splat at 22:29:22 Thursday December 28 2000
I'm willing to offer my services (free of charge) in helping clear the snow, ala Cardiff a few seasons back! I'm sure a few others will be up for it too! Come on folks, get behind em! up the cobblers!
Pitch Inspection? at 22:22:23 Thursday December 28 2000
With around two to three inches of snow covering Northampton and temperatures falling to minus eight centigrade overnight Saturday's game may be in doubt. The freezing weather is expected to last in to the weekend so it will be wise to check before travelling. Enough to put off the casual supporter doncha reckon?
Board of Directors at 21:59:34 Thursday December 28 2000
BTW - Does ACE stand for Arse enCrusted Excrement?
Fromtheterrace.co.uk at 21:57:32 Thursday December 28 2000
All-Ticket Fiasco – Club Hit Back!
A shade over 6,000 fans were at Sixfields this Boxing Day to see the Cobblers beat Bristol City 2-0. Hundreds more casual fans were denied entry to the game, due to the “all-ticket” policy the club have adopted this season. FTT wrote to the club concerning this matter and we’re pleased to bring you their reply.
The main points include media officer Gareth Willsher making it clear the all-ticket decisions have nothing to do with the club. He also talks about the frustration of not being able to enlarge Sixfields, which would solve the problem. Following on from his letter, we have the comments of Dave Barrett, who has found difficulty in obtaining tickets from Milton Keynes this season.
Here is NTFC’s reply in full.
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Many thanks for your e-mail. I am sorry that you see fit to use the term "let down by the club when it comes to all ticket matches." As we have stated many times before and will do so again until people understand, the club do not make the decision, but our hands are tied. The decisions are made by the police, but as it is the club who are mostly affected by these decisions, it is only right that we should do what we can to improve the situation as a matter of urgency.
Firstly, the club would be letting fans down if fans were not aware which matches were declared all ticket. I think the message is getting across, so we must turn our attentions to why the matches are made all ticket and how we can stop the club losing as much revenue as we obviously are. We appreciate the fans are frustrated, but please bear in mind NO ONE IS MORE FRUSTRATED THEN THE CLUB.
As i say, the decision to make a game all ticket rests with the police, and where there is any intelligence of expected problems OR where the away fans are likely to exceed the number of seats we have a match is made ALL TICKET. This is the case with the majority of teams coming to Sixfields in
the second half of the season, as we have possibly the smallest away end in the Division, even if we allocate the overflow area of the East Stand. Options of getting around this problem include making games all ticket for away fans only, but then all that will happen is away fans will hide their colours and buy their tickets for home areas of the ground, leading to even bigger security problems. Ideas of allowing "database" only sales until kick off are not possible because there are not enough terminals to handle the volume of fans trying to buy tickets before kick off.
To be fair to the police, their one and only concern is to prevent disorder. The financial cost to NTFC is not their primary concern so where there is any doubt, they will err on the side of caution. I would in the same position.
To use the Bristol City example you quote in the letter. We had no choice but to stop selling tickets on December 23. We are under police instruction that no tickets were to be sold on the day of the game. We even had discussions after the win at Peterborough on the Saturday night to try and get the restriction lifted or to see if there was any way around the restriction. Sadly, there wasn't. We know that Boxing Day football is a spur of the moment thing, but we really could not get around that. We know
people missed out on the game and cost us revenue, but there is nothing we could do about it. You could say we could open Xmas Eve to sell tickets, but another factor in the equation is that the Box Office staff are not football club staff but work for the Stadium Management company.
We are having ongoing discussions with the police about the all ticket matches in the hope of easing some of the restrictions. The whole problem arises with the small capacity of Sixfields and in particular the away end, but each polie force deals with the issues of football crowd control in different ways. (For example, Cambridgeshire police are happy to let Posh-Cobblers kick off at 3pm, but Northants Police insist on a 12 noon start for Cobblers-Posh - I'm not saying one is right, just showing you the
difference in the approach.)
As I say, we are having discussions to try and resolve the situation and as soon as we do have any news, we will let you know. The problems would be solved by enlarging Sixfields, but with home crowd averaging around 5,000 despite us pushing for the Division 2 Play offs, there is little pressure
on the Council to enlarge Sixfields when public money is always needed for other public utilities. The arguement is "You can't fill 7,600 once a season when you are doing well, so why should we spend money making it bigger?" Although you and I know it would help, when you put the figures in black and white, it's hard to argue.
Thanks for the mail, and your continued support.
Gareth Willsher
Media Officer – NTFC
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Well that was a bit long-winded wasn’t it? It’s good to see the club replying to the fans in such detail though. So now you’ve heard the club’s take on things, what do you think? One of the Milton Keynes based Cobblers fans Dave Barrett contacted FTT to let us know of the problems he has in obtaining tickets, and what he thinks should be done. Take it away Dave...
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I am a season ticket holder in the west stand. If I was not a season ticket holder I would have a lot of difficulty obtaining tickets for Cobblers matches. I live in Milton Keynes and the only way for me to obtain tickets for Cobblers games is to:
1. Pay over the telephone (and incur extra charges for payment by debit card).
2. Turn up on day (unable to be guaranteed seats in certain parts of west stand due to having to buy tickets from portakabin).
My wife works on Saturdays but for games like Bristol City etc I cannot bring her along as the seats next to me are sold to season ticket holders. I also have a friend in Milton Keynes who supports the Cobblers but cannot go to every game due to work commitments, but again he doesn't go this season due to the fact we would not be able to sit together. To help with this issue the club needs to:
1. Provide full box office facilities on Match days. So supporters in West Stand can choose seat.
2. No charges incurred for season ticket holders to exchange seat on day of match.
3. Games designated as 'All ticket' due to nature of away fans (Millwall, Bristol City). Tickets should still be available on day of match to supporters registered on Sixfields database.
4. No charges for telephone payments on 'debit' card purchases.
5. have a ticket Office terminal in Milton Keynes so it is easier for MK supporters to purchase match tickets. Offer discount for purchases made in advance.
Regards
Dave Barrett
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Well Dave, the club have answered points 1 and 3 in the letter above, but the others are good ideas. What do the rest of our loyal FTT readers think? Let us know and if we get enough response we shall produce a special feedback article next week with your thoughts on the all-ticket situation. But for now it’s Wycombe Wanderers on Saturday in the spotlight, a game that’s NOT all-ticket! So let’s concentrate on supporting Kevin Wilson [pictured] and the lads in their quest for another three points towards a play-off spot.
Until next time, Up the Cobblers!
Board of Directors at 21:57:26 Thursday December 28 2000
Did we save an ailing club from extinction? - YES! Did we find a new stadium that we can be proud of? - YES! Have we been to Wembley? (twice!!) - YES! - Have we broken our transfer record lately? - YES! Do we have a minority bunch of whingy, whiney, moaney, totally twatish, never-had-to-run-a-business-with-buggerall, dribble festooned, chinless wankers, who hide behind pseudonyms in cyberspace, supporters? -YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy at 21:56:23 Thursday December 28 2000
To those who slagged me off for not doubting The Cobblers after the Oxford game.. I TOLD YOU! Come on, let me gloat, and a happy new year to you all
Fuzzy B 69 at 19:35:19 Thursday December 28 2000
Apparently Morrow bottled someone over the head in Moon on the Square last Saturday and has been suspended but no one seems to know if hes coming back or what really happened...Anyone know?
ACE at 19:35:5 Thursday December 28 2000
The board of directors have steadied the club over the last six years.In the last couple of years what have they achieved? Have they built one Extra seat to accomodate the casual supporter? NO! Have they sorted the financial crippling All Ticket police restiction? NO!(Even all ticket for Away fans ONLY would help) Have they obtained extra parking for fans? NO! Have they provided ticket outlets away from Sixfields and outside Northampton? NO! They are driving the casual supporter away who are the future season ticket holders. PLEASE PLEASE Board of Directors achieve something!!!!!!!
Anon at 19:29:5 Thursday December 28 2000
What is this about Morrow?
Cobbler in the West at 19:27:37 Thursday December 28 2000
Hartwell is eloquently leading the charge and the message on the ticketing policy is clear, we the supporters are saying with one voice that it must be changed and common sense prevail. Time to hear from TCMP I think as to what exactly is happening on this one. TCMP we await your report.
treenie at 18:45:39 Thursday December 28 2000
I know a few people emailed me about the ring tone for the nokia 3210 for cheer up barry fry. Well I was wondering if anyone still had it after I sent it cause it's been deleted from my computer. If you have can you email it to me please. Thank you
ed 2 at 18:43:29 Thursday December 28 2000
Hartwell is correct,the Board of Directors need to explain fully to all the fans why they are so very happy to have these all ticket games and why they do not mind loosing £12k a game.They certainly can not use that a shortage of revenue is there excuse for not buying any future players- when they fail totally to maximise the clubs revenue!!! Also when are they going to sort out the problem of fans being able to leave the car parks in less than 30-45 minutes-particularly when they have so many police around on duty?Or is the answer to the above that the senior police in the town are anti the Cobblers??
Fuzzy B 69 at 17:43:3 Thursday December 28 2000
oh and Champs if you read this hiya hope you had a good xmas...see you about town sometime.
Fuzzy B 69 at 17:40:49 Thursday December 28 2000
Ok I know this happened ages ago but does anyone know what is going on with Andy Morrow? Is he coming back? And what actually happened? All I heard is he's going to get battered!! If people in town didnt wind him up then maybe he wouldnt do stupid things. Give him a 2nd chance, nobodys perfect!!
Hartwell at 16:31:8 Thursday December 28 2000
Yes, the Council is the landlord. But I think their attitude would be "we will only deal with the tenant" (ie the Cobblers). So it's back to square one. In the end, Brenda, its the Board of Directors who have to get their act together on this. If I recall correctly TCMP did say they were taking the matter up. But nothing's come of it as of now. You would have thought, having clearly lost upwards of £10k on Boxing Day as a result of this fiasco of a policy, the alarm bells would be well and truly ringing in the boardroom. If they are we can't hear them. And if they are not you would have to ask - why the hell not? If this policy remains in place there is no way this club can go forward. Quite the reverse in fact. It's no use TCMP going on about ground expansion being a priority when we casn't even fill it now and never will while the police are allowed to continue to operate such a negative, stiffling, policy. As I said ealier, what other club would be on such a decent roll while actually losing support? And in a town which is still expanding fast. You've only gopt to look at all the new housing going up - and the way they're being snapped up, despite the price tags - to recognise we are a growth region. The potential is for much higher crowds. But that will never materialise while the club continues to allow itself to be dictated to by an outside force which seems only interested in its own ends and appears to have no sympatico with a club which represents the town so admirably. Civic pride clearly means nothing in some quarters.
PATTCOBB at 16:15:22 Thursday December 28 2000
By the way why was the cobblers millenium promotion video such a waste of money badly shot badly edited missed key games out but good memories.......good xmas but.....
good xmas but............. at 16:12:12 Thursday December 28 2000
why a 12 o'clock k.o.? why all ticket match -on police advice( or is it insistence or even instruction)? why was the puddle(top of north stand) a dangerous sheet of ice ?why still no scoreboard?why does everyone love hargreaves and hate spedding ?why did green stay on pitch for 5 extra minutes after game(thanking everybody....or apologising for oxford?)?
Brenda at 14:17:34 Thursday December 28 2000
Thanks a lot Ray I did mean about this site though.I'm not too sure about giving out my email to those sort of places.I really think that if we could get together on the ticketing fiasco then the club would have to listen.Individuals never seem to make much difference but a group holding a similar view and a valid argument may be heard.Has anyone thought of approaching the council rather than the club are'nt they the landlords?
Hartwell at 13:52:58 Thursday December 28 2000
Deepcut, TRBMark et al - I am beginning to wonder if there really is such a thing as "selected viewing" - ie you don't always see exactly what I see. Or in this case the directors are either failing to see or do not want to see what is crystal clear to us mere mortals! Regarding writing to the Chronic, I am not against that. I must say, however, that I have raised this issue direct with TCMC several times by e-mail and I don't know who within the club is likely to carry any more clout than him. The response has been vague - on the lines of yes, we are discussing this etc. In the end we can only comment and raise issues. It's up to the directors to deal with this. Either they 1 - don't see it as being a particularly important issue (unbelievable if true)2 - are failing to pursue it with enough vigour 3 - believe the police have an absolute right to do what they want on such issues. I entirely agree with an earlier posting - is this not a contravention of human rights or of the right of a legitimate company to carry out its business without state interference of whatever kind ? As I have said many times before, can you imagine what a large multiple store would say if its customers were told they couldn't shop there when it suited them but only when it suited the police? I know there are differences in terms of law and order. But the principle is the same. Now the police may argue on the law and order ticket. But at the very least the directors should be requiring them to stand and present their case, have it critically examined and if found wanting (as we are sure it is) be revised. I suspect TCMP may well be away, but I again ask him when he gets back and comes onto this site to give us an update on this issue (if indeed there is any update!). Meanwhile we as fans simply watch in frustration as our crowds are further eroded. It's the final irony really - what other club is seeing its attendances go down as its success goes up?
Neasrly 40 years on!! at 13:34:48 Thursday December 28 2000
Nothampton were a big team, susceptible too a quick pass through the middle, susceptible in fact to anything original...
This rings true at 13:32:37 Thursday December 28 2000
The Cobblers crowd did not appreciate football only successful football played by their side..
Hall (an ancient god) Big Jim at 13:31:10 Thursday December 28 2000
Hall scored 2 violent goals!!!
This is true!! at 13:30:1 Thursday December 28 2000
You dont want to play football on this pitch, it acts like Bromide, you dont even want to lie down on it and have a quiet w..k!!
Its brillaint.. at 13:28:20 Thursday December 28 2000
Cobblers wont go down, they tackle hard not like the continentals!!
Helppppp at 13:27:13 Thursday December 28 2000
Then the home team were out, a rusty roar bringing them on, big men in claret with large waists and behinds...
I cant stop it fantastic stuff!! at 13:25:54 Thursday December 28 2000
A thin red line of supporters sang when the Saints come marching in...
Can u cope!! at 13:24:46 Thursday December 28 2000
The ground was an anti climax. no tall terraces here, no feelings of enormous tension which one gets at White Hart Lane, Goodison, no enormous, omnious overpowering Spion Kop just a small hummock....
Can u cope!! at 13:24:27 Thursday December 28 2000
The ground was an anti climax. no tall terraces here, no feelings of enormous tension which one gets at White Hart Lane, Goodison, no enormous, omnious overpowering Spion Kop just a small hummock....
Can u cope!! at 13:24:21 Thursday December 28 2000
The ground was an anti climax. no tall terraces here, no feelings of enormous tension which one gets at White Hart Lane, Goodison, no enormous, omnious overpowering Spion Kop just a small hummock....
The fab 60s continued at 13:22:19 Thursday December 28 2000
I asked the way on an afternoon in 1965, the policeman said: Are you from Brum, no I replied, well if you had said yes I would have pointed you in the wrong direction!!! It was the Villa game...
And theres much more!!! at 13:19:48 Thursday December 28 2000
As the matches became more and more important to the Town, they couldnt cope, the traffic bulging the centre of the town half an hour before kick off, was wedged on a solid block........
NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!! READ ON... at 13:17:58 Thursday December 28 2000
Ive just been reading a sixties football book; Chapter XX111, Northampton the County Ground, 7 paged chapter;
NTFC knicnamed the Cobblers came up from the 3rd to the 1st and went back to the second. But their grateful supporters and their grateful town had never really left the 3rd Division. it was all too much for them, the supporters with their rustic benevolence, their cheerfull intolerance, their blatnt naivety. Sitting in the tiny cramped cow shed stand, next to farmers with rosettes, on which fat babies carrieds the Cobblers painted across their plastic navels was an experience that suggested minor football or perhaps not even footbnall, a local meet outside a county pub with Farmer Brown farting on his hunter through too much brandy the night before..... to be continued
My old mans a Cobbler. at 13:8:3 Thursday December 28 2000
Thanks mark.Ohh the wonders of video plus.
Ray at 12:1:3 Thursday December 28 2000
In answer to your question Brenda - every away game I've ever been to you have always been able to buy tickets at the gate. To join the email groups - just click on the two Join Onelist logos at the top of the page.
PATTCOBB at 10:43:35 Thursday December 28 2000
Is this the longest morning on record or what?Back at work after a fantastic footballing christmas is tough.Looking out of window on white Towcester,anyone for pitch clearing duties a la Cardiff a few seasons ago.I seem to remember we were desperate to play that game as we were on a roll that day as well.Just a quick thought...Isn't it funny how some sides we seem to do well against whatever the circumstances (eg Fulham,Cardiff,Bistol City etc)I would definitely include Wycombe (at home only) with these teams .Have we ever lost to them at home?The opposite way of course is illusrated by Rotherham,Oxford,Wycombe (away)
Mark at 10:34:29 Thursday December 28 2000
Don't worry, My Old Man's a Cobbler, I missed the Boro' goals as well But they're repeated later on in the week!!!! 4:40 on Friday Morning.
Brenda at 9:15:34 Thursday December 28 2000
Oops should have read yeterday morning about the message,these night shifts play havoc with the time clock.
Brenda at 9:7:9 Thursday December 28 2000
Only me again.I put a message on last night to Ray and I had no reply.I am quite new at this but have supported the Cobblers for a long old time.I am quite concerned also about the ticket situation.Does anyone know what the situation is at Rushden for their home games?Do I need to sign up as a member to be able to get into a group that is on this web site or is it an open forum?I went to a couple of other web sites but they dont sem to have the same sort of forum as this one.Thanks to anyone that is able to answer my questions. Up the Cobblers!
Ray at 8:39:30 Thursday December 28 2000
What they gonna do - make us play it again?
Giles Lawrence (Shiteboro' COBBLER) at 6:18:27 Thursday December 28 2000
Too right the P**h fans are pissed off, they are NOT at all happy in losing 2-1 to us, especially as they DO THINK that Sammo WAS offside... The local "rag" thinks it was offside as well, and calls for the referee's assessor to look at the 2nd goal...... SOUR GRAPES, I hear you say ;-)
I'm not giving my name either at 1:57:53 Thursday December 28 2000
"All ticket games," that may have been me, I flogged my mates ticket for £5.00 but funnily enough, no-one appeared to take up the seat!
I saw the goals v Pooh tonight (ent it flippin typical that when ever there is a Cobblers victory that you really want to see the goals again, it's holiday time or something so that Anglia never show them. Anyway, I waited up in the vain hope that the Nationwide review would show them and Bingo! As for Sammo's goal being offside, I'm not so sure now. Pity really as it has really peed-off the pooh fans to be beaten by an offside goal!
My old mans a Cobbler. at 1:23:20 Thursday December 28 2000
Aaaarrrrggggghhhhhh.I missed the poxy Boro goals on Nationwide tonight,Any chance of them on your site MartinW,please.
Ray at 0:21:3 Thursday December 28 2000
Speaking of Man of the Match - PLEASE don't forget to vote!
Ray at 0:12:3 Thursday December 28 2000
No - the past tips was not shown accidently - I think I've now fixed it.
MartinW at 23:34:23 Wednesday December 27 2000
My god! We're back.
Nice to hear a few positive comments. Nobody calling for Wilson's head any more. Mmmmmmmmm. Wonder how long that will last!!!
Couldn't make the Bristol City game because the bloody trains decided to pack up. Grrrrrrrrrr!
Like the loan signings because it sounds like we are toughening up our defensive capabilities. At last.
Bloe at 23:33:58 Wednesday December 27 2000
Don't be daft Joe this lot don't go to the games they just sit at home moaning about bloody everything they can think of.
Joe at 23:6:36 Wednesday December 27 2000
Do you lot see how Hargreaves is continually encouraging and winding the rest of the team up? Make that man captain. Definately man of the match yesterday.
All ticket games at 22:32:56 Wednesday December 27 2000
Would usually give my name, but being afraid of having my season ticket confiscated, not now. One of my kids was ill yesterday, and I turned up at the match with a spare ticket in my pocket. I was just buying my 'Waloc' when I heard a bloke asking if anyone had a spare ticket, so I said yes, and so did another bloke I didn't know. This fan had come along with his kids and a mate, and was short of, as his luck would have it, one adult ticket, and one kids, so a double deal was struck and two extra Cobblers fans went in to the match. My point is of course, how many others weren't so lucky, and went home instead. Bloody ridiculous polisy. CLUB....get it sorted, before you tell us the reason we had to sell Jamie at a knock down price was because of poor home attendances.
stupidstuart at 21:24:59 Wednesday December 27 2000
Am i looking at something that may not be there?
Doesnt the 'All-ticket policy' contravene the recent Human Rights Act
You know the one - states that individuals have the right to go whereever they please type thing!!
Lets all contact the Northamptonshire Constabulary and bombard them with questions
corky hater 2k at 21:18:38 Wednesday December 27 2000
i hate u corky
TRB Mark at 20:50:58 Wednesday December 27 2000
The all ticketing "policy" is one that is strangling the club. Basically it's a "Police overtime without having to do any work" tax. Hartwell, you ought to write your well thought out comments to the Chron. In the recent spate of letter writing on the subject, hardly anyone touched upon the all ticket policy as being the main reason for the shortfall in numbers (although it's not the only reason, but it must be the main). Andy Chater also wrote a reasoned peice on the subject in the latest Waloc.
I remember back in the time when identity cards were introduced (during one of my less fervent periods of supporting the Cobblers) I never even bothered to try and come up to watch because I didn't want a wasted journey. This must be how many floating fans feel now.
On the way back home though, I was listening to 3 counties radio the Luton v We beat the scum 2-1 Utd. The commentator was ecstatic over the 7,000+ crowd that Luton had. Then he added the the Vauxhall workers were given comp tickets. Then the other one chipped it "Yes, and they did quid a kid". They had the luxury of kicking off @3.00pm, in a local derby which wasn't all ticket. Our crowd was good considering the obstacles put in our place.
Spring Park Cobbler at 20:27:18 Wednesday December 27 2000
On the question of atmosphere I think the all seater arrangement plays a part in this. Most people stand to sing or shout it can be difficult to shout and wave when your knees are jammed into the back of the person in front. I was interested in Kate Hoey's remarks on bringing back some standing areas in grounds. It does seem that levels of noise at grounds around the country have fallen since the introduction of all seater stadiums. Perhaps making the North and South stands all standing would bring up the noise levels with perhaps small standing areas at each end of the West stand and the northern end of the East stand. I'm not sure of the technical problems involved as the present terraces may be too steep if the seats are just taken out. Still encouraging to see that Government ministers see the need for atmosphere in football grounds.
Having said all that why are the levels of noise still high at all seater grounds in Italy and Spain ?
Anon at 20:23:28 Wednesday December 27 2000
The problem is not, not being able to fill ground as a whole, problems arise when a capacity away support is expected.In the past it
is well known that away supporters who were not one of the lucky 1200 to get tickets in the away enclosure still travelled to the game and when home tickets were available on the day ,managed to obtain entrance into the designated home areas.
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:19:30 Wednesday December 27 2000
Ray, Previous individual match predictions on the tipping competition do not show, is that intentional? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:13:27 Wednesday December 27 2000
Hartwell, we must be of the same era. Both your postings could have been from my own keyboard, as have ones I have previously posted in very similar veins. Fully agree with you but what can we do to promote/prove/propel this into the heart of someone who can make a decision. The beckoning decision is way overdue and is like having a reservoir that we are not using to its full capacity prior to an impending water shortage. When we in the very near future, are screaming for more funds how many of these £10-12,000's will we rue the loss of due to this draconian policing policy. Plus, if Millwall is not to be all ticket, why was Stoke? Or does a Saturday decision carry over? If you, or anyone else, intends to collate names to strengthen any piece on the same lines that you intend to present, add mine to that list. For the sake of Northampton Town Football Club. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Rodney at 20:6:46 Wednesday December 27 2000
Once again, I have a spare ticket in the back row of the North Stand for the wycombe match. Anyone interested in a free ticket, please e-mail me.
A Childs View at 20:6:18 Wednesday December 27 2000
Anon - I don't get it? The argument we put forward for geting a grant to expand the ground centres around our not being able to fill the one we already have? Am I being thick? Can you explain?
anon at 19:59:35 Wednesday December 27 2000
Rodney. Quite a few of them sit at the other end of the west stand as well.
Anon at 19:59:14 Wednesday December 27 2000
Cobblers fans might be interested to know why so little has been said regarding the all ticket fiasco, and the apparent lack of concern from those within the club.
The fact is that as many of you know the capacity of the ground has to be expanded to meet league criteria.The club like many others is hoping to achieve this at least partly funded by the ground improvement trust.
The best way to show that ours is a needy cause, is to display that the ground in its present state is inadequate.Therefore every all ticket match is further ammunition for the clubs plea for financial help from the ground improvement trust.
A Childs View at 19:58:57 Wednesday December 27 2000
Agree with your comments Hartwell and Drilling Cobbler. The tactics certainly worked in the second half and, hopefully, it was an intentional reshuffle rather than simply a response to Savo's flu. Hopefully we can expect more of the same tactical awareness in future! On the subject of atmosphere the problem is caused by the North Stand being rather small and, as a result, some of the more vocal fans sitting in the West Stand near the away fans. Personally I'd love to see the North Stand expanded and unsold tickets made available for purchase on Match Days. If one area of Sixfields has a concentration of fans to lead the singing its more likely the rest will catch on. That said, in seasons past Sixfields has been fantastic for generating a good atmosphere, remember Cardiff and Rovers in the playoff semi's! The entire Stadium was buzzing on those balmy nights!! Looking forward to Saturday - come on the town!
Hartwell at 19:42:48 Wednesday December 27 2000
PS - sorry about the double posting...! The words slipped, fingers, buttons and wrong might somehow explain it.
Hartwell at 19:41:23 Wednesday December 27 2000
It might be because the Millwall game is a mid-week evening KO - but as you say it does add further questions regarding this half-witted policy. Who, for instance, says the thug element of the Millwall following won't come up because its a Tuesday evening? The opposite may indeed be true - the cretins might like actually prefer the cover of darkness, when also the police's videoing surveillance might prove impractical. In fact, the more you think about it, the more like Alice in Wonderland it all seems. It might, at the very least, help if the police were to provide a reasoned response, explaining how and why their decisions were made on this vexing issue. This could be done without, in their parlance "affecting the operational effectiveness" of the process. But, I suspect, we fans will get no response. That would neither surprise nor worry me unduly - the explanations, after all, should surely be directed at the management of the club who are the losers in this. Gates are down this season, which demands some form of investigation by the club. If not, then this downward trend will continue as more and more people are put off coming to games because they cannot do what they do in any other form of entertainment - please themselves and book late on, if that suits them best.
Hartwell at 19:40:38 Wednesday December 27 2000
It might be because the Millwall game is a mid-week evening KO - but as you say it does add further questions regarding this half-witted policy. Who, for instance, says the thug element of the Millwall following won't come up because its a Tuesday evening? The opposite may indeed be true - the cretins might like actually prefer the cover of darkness, when also the police's videoing surveillance might prove impractical. In fact, the more you think about it, the more like Alice in Wonderland it all seems. It might, at the very least, help if the police were to provide a reasoned response, explaining how and why their decisions were made on this vexing issue. This could be done without, in their parlance "affecting the operational effectiveness" of the process. But, I suspect, we fans will get no response. That would neither surprise nor worry me unduly - the explanations, after all, should surely be directed at the management of the club who are the losers in this. Gates are down this season, which demands some form of investigation by the club. If not, then this downward trend will continue as more and more people are put off coming to games because they cannot do what they do in any other form of entertainment - please themselves and book late on, if that suits them best.
Cobbler in the West at 18:52:19 Wednesday December 27 2000
Just to further demonstrate the crazy ticketing policy imposed by the local police I see that the Millwall match has not been designated "all ticket".
The Drilling Cobbler at 18:48:17 Wednesday December 27 2000
With regards to yesterdays game, I thought that tactically it was the best display I have seen this season. At half time we had already won the game - we could only lose it in the 2nd half so to bring on Hughes and play him in midfield I thought was a masterstroke. At Half time I was worried that Bristol had a couple of goals in them still on the basis that the game was so open. The substitution may well have stifled our own play but with a 2 goal advantage against a very good team, adapting a shut up shop approach rather than the attack minded approach of the first half was definitely the right thing to do. Something Keegan should have done whilst England were leading Portugal by the same advantage! My critism of Wilson in the past has in my view been justified - but he excelled himself yesterday and credit where credits due. Maybe we should all remember that he is a young manager learning his trade and can only get better with experience - his tactics in some of the games this season have been strange to say the least, but it appears that he has learnt from his mistakes and with the side currently lying in 8th position, deserves applause as well. And well done Duncan Spedding - for the 2nd game running you have made me eat humble pie and I thank you for that! In my view, yesterday was Speddings best game at this level. And long may it continue. About the atmosphere yesterday, I for one was feeling particularly rough as a result of the previous few days festivities and sat their in almost silence shivering - particularly in the 2nd half. The Bristol fans were probably more up for it because they had been in football mode all morning with the journey etc, they were on a tremendous run and away fans always make more noise than when at home - probabably tribal mentality. Also a 12 o'clock kick off doesnt cater for a pre-match pint or two - which always helps to loosen the vocal chords. All in all a tremendous christmas footballing wise which has certainly reminded me on how fickle I can be at times - Last Friday I had relegated us and given up hope unless Broadhurst or another tactician was employed to assist Kev the motivator - now I'm alot more optimistic and with the two new signings and the two wins achieved since then I am once again dreaming of the playoffs - only 3 points behind B City with a game in hand - surely not? And well done Diamonds - a creditable point away from home with another 80something minute goal denying you a win. Shame about Yeovil winning as well!
Rodney at 18:38:47 Wednesday December 27 2000
I have no problem with fans criticising the team as a whole or the club itself when necessary but I actually believe that any 'fan' who sits there slagging off individual players eg. Spedding or Savage should be turfed out by the stewards. Its disgusting, cowardly and it is little wonder that Wilson has been critical of these people recently. Both players were excellent yesterday but even when they aren't, does it help to slag them off. The corner of the West Stand by the away end is where most of these cretins hibernate.
splat at 17:9:47 Wednesday December 27 2000
well said hartwell, email it to the club, if we all do it someone may take notice? fan power et al! UP THE COBBLERS!
splat at 17:6:54 Wednesday December 27 2000
does anybody have a copy of yesterdays chron with the boro match report in. I live in small village where the local shop wasn't open and no means of transport to go and buy one from elswhere. I have todays chron but just the bristol city report inside, anybody fancy posting it on here for me? PLEASE! I have been on the chron website but again only the city match seems to be available, are pictures too pushing my luck a little? I really am gutted about it though! oh I also don't think games should be all-ticket unless they are absolute certain of being a sell-out, until then can't we keep it as all ticket for away fans? is there a problem in doing this? Why does it seem we are the only club who insists on making matches all-ticket and then ends up with an unfull stadium? Although it really isn't the clubs fault but at the end of the day, they're the ones who's losing money by this stupid over reaction. Is there that much hooliganism around these days? I don't think so.... Come on, whoevers responsible, SORT IT OUT!!!!
Hartwell at 15:41:52 Wednesday December 27 2000
It's not strictly true that our voices here are not heard. TCMP reads and responds to comments regularly and I have it on good authority that this site is also read by some others within the club. However, I am pleased to note that more fans are now taking up the matter of the all-ticketing fiasco. I know the club isn't directly to blame. that lies fair and square with the police. But you have to ask why the club hasn't made any effective challenge to this idiotic, ill-thought-out and restrictive practice, dreamed up and implemented by a police force whose job it is to maintain law and order, not to run a football club and restrict its right to free trading. In addition, of course, the police then show total disregard for their own policy by letting in any noisy group of away fans who travel without tickets, even though they are regularly told by the constabulary and the club it's no good travelling without tickets - you won't get in. Fact is the only people who cannot get in are law-abiding casual fans who want to do no more than come along to the better games and make spur-of-the-moment decisions (which is their perogative). This season all the best games - ie the ones which will attract the casual fan - are all-ticket. Which means the club has no hope of gathering essential additional income from gates at such b ig games. I have absolutely no doubt that the club lost something around £12,000 on the Boxing Day's match because of the police's cockeyed, overbearing, all-ticketing policy. I know the Borough Council, as landlords, ought to protest. But the real people whose voices ought to be shouting loudest are not even beaing heard at all - ie the directors of the football club, on whose shoulders falls this burden as a result of this unfair restriction on trading. You can imagine what the likes of Ken Bates would do, faced with the same situation! There would be some very swift and firm response, followed by decisive action. Considering our generally good crowd record there is absolutely no reason for the police to impose such draconian all-ticket requirements on the club. If they are fretting about away fans, then their policies should be directed at policing them - not inflicting hardship on local people who are denied the chance to come on the day as and when they choose. As such this issue is not simply about money - its also about the right of free choice in an apparently democratic country. Come on TCMP - we want to know what you and the club are doing about this ? You told us some time ago there were discussions going on. Well, what is the outcome ? - the club, after all, boasts about its good record on fan information. Oh and ps - you might wonder where some of our casual fans are going now they can't get in at Sixfields? Several friends of mine are now going down to Franklins Gardens, where they can, apparently, get in!
Rodney at 15:39:44 Wednesday December 27 2000
So far as lack of atmosphere is concerned, we need a large home end where crowds of vocal supporters can sit in UNRESERVED seating together and 'make noise'.
Rodney Marshall(Moaning Cobbler) at 15:37:13 Wednesday December 27 2000
In response to Cardiff Cobbbler: if you were so desperate to see the Cobblers on Boxing Day then why didn't you get a ticket in advance. I even offered a free ticket on this site days ago and did not get a single response. The low gates this season are due to (a) the high prices (b) the inconvenience of not simply being able to offer cash at a turnstile. From that viewpoint I can sympathise with Cardiff Cobbler's wasted journey.
Rachel at 15:33:21 Wednesday December 27 2000
Well said Marriott
Marriott at 15:21:16 Wednesday December 27 2000
What right have some of you lot got to moan about Wilson slagging you off, most of you have been slagging him off for the pst month or so and at least what he is saying is true, unlike most of you lot who reckon his tactics are rubbish etc... Without him, would Gabbiadini or Forrester have signed for us? No, I didn't think so......... Come on the TOWN!
Marriott at 15:17:1 Wednesday December 27 2000
Bedford, what is your problem, ok, so the all ticket thing needs to be sorted out, but that has nothing to do with Wilson......... I agree with your point about the conference, but Wilson is right, the majority of the fans are quiet and not enough people do turn up. He is making a point about us not being vocal, the fans sing half-hartedly sometimes and then have a go at the players if they make a mistake, what would you prefer 7000+ and a great atmosphere or 6000+ and a dull atmosphere, thats all Willo is getting at, can we not just get behind the club I love as one for once.........we've beat the POSH, so fucking cheer up!!!!!
Pissed off at 14:57:6 Wednesday December 27 2000
Hopefully some of the Wilson bashers will now give him a little more time to get on with his job following our festive 6 points. He said in the Chron. and on the radio that he went to see Bristol City play last week.....possibly in answer to criticism made on this site that he didn't watch the opposition. Well, if you read this Kevin....this needs to be done every week by one of the staff in whose judgement you trust. Apart from the opening 15 minutes we seemed to have a top rated side in our pockets and some of this must surely be due to knowing what to expect. The question of the crowd size and the vocal support of the home fans must be a concern to the players, the club and the supporters. Why is it that we can drown out the Pish away yet sit like church mice at home? This must surely have a negative effect on the die-hard players like Hunt, Howard, Hargreaves etc. OK, you can argue that they are professionals and get paid to perform, but a response from the crowd would be appreciated. The miserable Townie is quick enough to criticise a misplaced pass, which was noticeable when Crooks mis-timed a couple of passes....for crissake, he only joined the squad that day.....and had an excellent overall performance. The average Northampton person is a miserable, moaning, tight-fisted git. No wonder we yoyo between the 2nd & 3rd. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE - GET BEHIND THE TEAM BOTH VOCALLY & FINANCIALLY.
Bedford Cobbler at 14:16:57 Wednesday December 27 2000
what the bloudy hell kevin wilson is moaning bout i dont know. He says he wants to fill sixfields and wants more noise but if the club make all the big games all ticket then the grounds only gonna be half full. and he wonders why no fans turn up for say walsall? the ticket system needs to be addressed fast they should have a confrence where members of the board, northants police and us the fans can voice our opinions who aggres?
Paul at 13:44:2 Wednesday December 27 2000
Part of the problem is that we don't own the groud! If we did, it would give us more chance to have a say in the Police and local council's decision to make matches all ticket! It would also mean paying at the turnstiles like every other football club in this country does!!!
(sic) at 13:4:47 Wednesday December 27 2000
I think the Judge sent Bloodbath to one of our offshore penile colonies.
marco at 11:55:23 Wednesday December 27 2000
good stuff yesterday after a very shaky start. Welch kept us in it and a great finish by savage and excellent move by crooks, hargreaves, forrester sealed it. Crooks gave the ball away a few times especially early on but came into it and was a big influence in midfield, taking some of the pressure off hunt. I have to say hunt is the unsung hero for me this season. He so rarely gives the ball away, plays it simple, breaks up opposition play and covers more ground than anyone else. He might not be the most attacking player but with the likes of hodge, savage and hargreaves around he doesn't need to be. He'd certainly be one of the first names on my teamsheet. He's getting close to the form hunter was showing at his peak.
Brenda at 11:32:30 Wednesday December 27 2000
How many has that been Ray ? Is there any point in us getting together and approaching the Club.We can share our views here but I doubt if the people who matter even read these letters.If we could all get together and share our views with the Directors then perhap we may be heard.
Ray at 11:19:0 Wednesday December 27 2000
Every "all ticket" away game I've been to this year, you have also been able to pay at the turnstiles. Perhaps other club's definition of "all ticket" is different to ours.
Vince at 11:10:29 Wednesday December 27 2000
Anon, although the police are dictating to the club regarding all ticket games but the club should be fighting their corner. Both fans and the club are losing out. If the club have tried and failed to sort this out at least tell us how and why.
Vince at 11:6:27 Wednesday December 27 2000
Mal, I suspect that Pboro just used a bit of common sense - If the tickets that they sent to Sixfields were not all sold then there was going to be room for more supporters, so why not give them a chance to get in on the day? Oxford and Cambridge also showed that they were flexible over ticketing arrangements. At Sixfields we have the crazy situation when there are over 1000 unsold tickets for home fans but the game is still all ticket. It seems that the club are either afraid the police or just don't care.
Anon at 11:3:54 Wednesday December 27 2000
Don't blame the club about the ticketing policy, blame lies fairly and squarely with Northants Police. I suppose it's too much to ask for one of their spokesman to comment on here? Too bloody busy manning speed cameras no doubt.
Mal at 10:51:50 Wednesday December 27 2000
All this talk about ALL TICKET MATCHES. Can anyone tell me why at the Pish on Saturday they had two, not one but two cash turnstyles open for away fans, when we were told it was all ticket for away fans?Obviously some clubs interpret the rules differently. Many times this year I have been to grounds that are all ticket for away fans only. This is were the Cobblers are missing out, not letting the home fans buy at the gate.
Cardiff Cobbler at 10:20:54 Wednesday December 27 2000
Haven't been here for a while. Glad to see you've all cheered up a bit after the festive 6 pointer. Came back to N'pton to see family and Cobbs v B.City. Knew it was all ticket but naively thought I'd still be able to get in somehow. Fat Chance!!! PISSED OFF OR WHAT. What on earth is going on when a lifelong fan can't just walk up to the turnstile and pay with cash, switch, chequebook,?????. Especially when the ground is only 2 thirds full. I don't ever want to hear the club moaning about lack of funds again, when this stupid policy deliberately excludes the casual, but no less loyal, SUPPORTER from attending.
Cobbler in the West at 10:10:46 Wednesday December 27 2000
Just to add to those who quite rightly are heavily criticising the all ticket policy. We lost perhaps 1,000 on yesterday'e gate because of this ridiculous policy. And why the midday k.o.? It doesn't help and is totally unfair on the away supporters and those of us who travel from some distance. I thought an announcement was imminent but several weeks have passed and nothing has changed. The tail is wagging the dog.
me at 9:47:4 Wednesday December 27 2000
how come?
Anon at 9:40:6 Wednesday December 27 2000
You wouldnt be singing that if you had heard him slating the fans on the radio this morning.
me at 9:36:57 Wednesday December 27 2000
Theres only 1 Kevin Wilson, 1 Kevin Wilson, Walking along singing this song, Walking in a Wilson Wonderland!
Anon at 8:56:5 Wednesday December 27 2000
Yet another all-ticket match with hardly anyone there. Does anyone know the reason why-simple because you had up till 12.30 on Saturday 23rd. It wouldn't be too bad just for the fact people were Christmas shopping so therefore people couldn't get to Sixfields to buy tickets. Plus secondly it was a boxing day fixture
We never have very high attendances for all ticket matches so Cobblers I ask you to consider this -ONLY MAKE IT ALL TICKET FOR AWAY FANS.
The Morning After at 8:12:0 Wednesday December 27 2000
Things are looking much brighter. But it could have been different. What if Welch had not made 3 fantastic saves when P'boro were leading 1-0? What if Bristol City had not missed that sitter when it was 0-0 and acouple of other decent chances before we scored? It all goes to show that matches can turn on an incident and maybe our season has done just that after a poor run of form and luck. Saturday is not all ticket so bring a friend or two and lets bag another 3 points.
More Observant than the Anon Dickwad at 6:50:42 Wednesday December 27 2000
Claret Bloodbath got killed off by the Character God Judge Pickled ages ago Anon.Obviously another casual supporter yawn.I for one miss him even if he was a biggoted twat that knew nothing about anything.
Kitty know at 2:13:47 Wednesday December 27 2000
http://www.nabiscoworld.com/Games/nw_shock_nwmg.htm?
Spring Park Cobbler at 1:40:47 Wednesday December 27 2000
Great result after the early pressure by City. I agree with earlier postings I thought Crooks had a very good game he gets his head up and looks around before playing the ball also showed some nice skills. Chilvers passing is great instead of a hopeful hoof in roughly the right direction he is able to play long passes and pick out players. Particularly useful in Jamie's case where he hasn't the height that Howard has. Six points from two tough fixtures its looking good. I'd have been pleased with four. Happy new year everyone.
Ralph at 1:2:53 Wednesday December 27 2000
Did someone mention a mince pie?
Anon at 23:48:22 Tuesday December 26 2000
Claret Bloodbath is very quiet suddenly.
Sibs at 23:28:44 Tuesday December 26 2000
Home for christmas and a home match meant i made it to a game at last!! I must say that from what i've been reading on here this season i wasn't expecting a good as a performace i what i saw today. Granted we were pressured early in the first half, but being right down the front of the west stand home end i couldn't see the extent of the chances or how close they were - but had the best view of the goals!! I thought all played their part and no-one stood out as having a poor match!! Was a bit confused as to the substitution though... how many defenders did we have?? Surely Gould would of been the more likely choice?? Glad to see the loan signings work well - maybe long term loans till end of season would be appropriate with view to signing at end?? Anyways Happy Christmas to all!! Up the Cobblers!!
Lancaster Cobbler at 23:28:20 Tuesday December 26 2000
According to sports.com Savage played with flu and came off as a precaution, give him some Guiness, Maybe KW does read tgese pages, he's upped JFs valuation, signed a defender and a midfielder!
south beds cobblers. at 22:20:40 Tuesday December 26 2000
superb recovery from initial bristol onslaught, welshy had another quality game hargrieves,spedding,savage,with both loan signings,played amajor part in in for me the most important game of the season so far .forget consolidation the playoffs are areal possability .with regards to sixfields ticket policy, it was only a late commer to the game with aspare ticket,which enabled me to get in .cobblers officals have no right commplaning about gate sizes when after 5 years at 6fields we have the same problems year in year out.. good luck to the supporters who follow the team by whatever means possible.. leta expand the north stand to say 5 thousand all standing,make it cheap to get in encourage the next generation of to be proud of our great football team.good luck and happy new year...
A Childs View at 22:17:38 Tuesday December 26 2000
Great stuff today, a wildly open and entertaining first half that really could have swung either way. I can't fault a single player, all worked hard and it was especially pleasing to see the likes of Spedding and Savage playing themselves into a bit of form. Speddo had a job on with Amankwah but pretty much contained him. Any news on Savage? Is he injured or was he brought off to allow the reversion to a back 5? Was it even a back five that we were using in the second half? Both myself and Garry Hughes couldn't work it out! Whatever, it was just what we needed! If the game had been as open as the first half City may have pulled one back, however, the game tightened up a bit which is exactly what you want when defending two goals!! The two new lads looked very good - can we keep them for the rest of the season please Mr Stonhill? - bank balance allowing of course!! Come on the Town, we've got to stuff Wycombe as my place of work (a well known, rather troubled dead in the water pension company from Aylesbury!) is full of Wycombe fans that I need to be able to gloat to! Thoughts to go sleep on - aren't football fans changeable creatures and doesn't a couple of wins make a difference! Good Night Jon Boy - Good Night Hairy Melon!!
Big Roy at 22:0:32 Tuesday December 26 2000
That's better! Well done guys and especially Dave Savage. Some of us never lost the faith. Any news on his injury? Another mince pie anybody?
Sputnik at 21:46:56 Tuesday December 26 2000
Come down to earth! Spedding mom, that was just to give him confidence (I would say HUNT), I still dont rate him but he was probably at his average best over the past 2 games, Savage had probably his best spell over the 2 games and had to come off to see his mentor Lee Majors!! Hargreaves can still do better. We were no better than most of the last 6 games (bar Oxford) we just had confidence and Bristol City played too deep and ran out of ideas when it looked like they could have scored for fun, it was the only game (just the second half) accept Luton when we controled a game. Its a poor division thankfully, afterall we have beaten Millwall and Reading, but not the Rotterham, we could have got a result against Wigan, Bury we did not get a look in, But I dont care we beat the SCUM, I dont care if we only beat them atb home and lose the rest!!
cobblers girly at 21:23:34 Tuesday December 26 2000
well we beat the scum and bristol city, 2 shock wins really. about time we beat the scum as well, that was a good enough christmas present in itself for me.well the last 2 wins show that the lads can bounce back from a run of defeats and the flack that some members of the crowd can give as soon as results dont go our way
something to make you smile (some more) at 21:8:40 Tuesday December 26 2000
woody let 6 goals in against millwall
Ralph at 20:0:31 Tuesday December 26 2000
I could have, would have, brought three 'casuals' with me today had it not been all ticket. They probably would have come Saturday too but are sulking now because they couldn't go today.
Hartwell at 19:45:4 Tuesday December 26 2000
I thought Ralph's comments were correct - Crooks did indeed provide the midfield with more creativity and allowed Hargreaves more freedom, especially wide. In fact Hargreaves was my MoM. The only disappointing note on an excellent day was, again the attendance. Given Bristol brought 1,200, it meant the home crowd was only 4,800. Given that it was Boxing Day, dry and bright (if cold)and given the superb win in Sat, we probably lost 1,000 casual home fans due to the police's all-ticketing policy. That represents a loss of about £10,000, something we just cannot afford. Also, the long-term consequences are even graver. Once casual spectators give up trying to get tickets - as many I know already have - then getting them back will prove very difficult, if not impossible. Come on TCMP, this must be sorted now. Peterborough's all-ticket policy is restricted to away fans only, which is logical and sensible. Having said that, anyone could have bought tickets for the new stand on the day so long as they were not wearing claret colours. And when you see the police at Sixfields breaking their own policy by letting in away fans who arrive without tickets (as happened against Millwall and Rotherham), it only goes to show what a siasco it really is. I just wonder what would have happened today had a couple of hundred local ticketless fans descended on Sixfields and made a commotion outside? Would the same bending of the rules have applied ? Or would the police have taken an entirely different approach and denied them access? As I say, this is a very serious matter for the long-term future of the club. What's the point of going on about increasing ground capacity when we don't even stand a cat in hell's chance of filling the existing seats due to the current fiasco ?
Dyl at 19:19:18 Tuesday December 26 2000
Must agree that Crooks was excellent today. One of the reasons that we shut them out in the 2nd half was because for the 1st time in weeks we had a midfield that was controlling things. And if I'm not much mistaken it was clever play by Crooks that put Hargreaves free to cross for our 2nd goal. A good performance and hopefully a sign that confidence is starting to come back. PLUS LUTON BEAT BORO!
My old mans a Cobbler. at 19:6:45 Tuesday December 26 2000
Interrogator.Two very young children one of which was nearly hospitalised last night with bronchilitis,I live 65 miles from Sixfields,I have the transport but every home game costs me between £50 and £60 and we are pretty well skint.I could give you reasons all night.I have made it to 7 games so far this season and do you really think I would rather be here?Anyway,you just make sure you make enough noise for the rest of us on Saturday.
JULIE at 19:0:28 Tuesday December 26 2000
HUGHES MUST GO
Ralph at 18:49:33 Tuesday December 26 2000
For me Crooks made a huge differnce to our midfield, okay he hit a couple of wayward passes but at last we have someone who drops off and makes himself available. His style today compliments so well the grafting by Hunt and Hargreaves. Crooks was involved twice in the bulid up to Forrester's goal. I thought our midfield performed better than at any time this season, we looked balanced, defended and harried well and supported the forward line too. Crooks for me made a difference.
Why? at 18:45:11 Tuesday December 26 2000
Family commitments, all-ticket match and didn't get a ticket in time, no money, no petrol, no means of transport, too much to drink and couldn't drive, forgot, had other things to do, illness, working, incapacitated, shall I go on?
britgal at 18:22:44 Tuesday December 26 2000
Fantastic! Savage was brilliant wasn't he?? And Hunt and Hargreaves - classic. Welch? Cooool....
Interrogator at 18:21:31 Tuesday December 26 2000
Where do you people who follow the Cobblers matches on the Internet and seemingly local radio live? If you are in the Northampton area and were not at the match today why not?
MK18 Cobbler at 18:12:53 Tuesday December 26 2000
I thought we did well today against one of the better sides in this division. true it could have been a different story if City had taken their chances but after we scored our goals they never threatened and we coasted home with ease. Good performances in almost every position but especially I thought from Welch, Spedding, Hargreaves, Hunt and Sammo. The new boys did well and remember Crooks has not even trained with us yet. I wasn't at Peterborough but on today's performance we seem to have found belief in ourselves again.
Ray at 15:48:40 Tuesday December 26 2000
Crook didn't have an influence? Perhaps you were watching a different game Steve. Given the opportunity Ithink we should sign him like a shot.
My old mans a cobbler. at 15:39:22 Tuesday December 26 2000
To be fair to the Festive Cobbler,Bewildered,he/she was giving us updates from the radio so if the commentator didn't mention Crooks it would be difficult to think he was influencing the game.Lets hope he keeps it up then,we all know our midfield needed strengthening.Now lets stuff Wycombe in front of a good crowd,we owe them one for playing completely shite at their place.
NTFC@2view at 15:25:9 Tuesday December 26 2000
Brilliant. Yes, it could have been 8-5 to Bristol at halftime, but it wasn't. In the second half they had a lot of the ball, but we held them with ease. Even with 2 minutes to go they couldn't raise a gallop. Fantastic result and performance. I will await the postings complaining about the Cobbs with the usual heavy heart.
Bewildered at 15:21:24 Tuesday December 26 2000
If Crooks didn't make a difference then I have never understood football and never will, despite supporting the Cobbs for 45 years! When did we last have a tall, well built bloke in midfield, heading the ball, prepared to hold it and putting good passes in? Whar have I been watching all this time, netball? I bloody despair!
Steve at 14:59:24 Tuesday December 26 2000
Yes, Ray. I agree. There was a half decent crowd of just over 6,000 and everything was deathly quiet. Apart from me of course. Delighted to see Spedding get Man of the Match. He usually gets more than his fair share of grief from the moaners. I enjoyed the game. Great to be 2-0 up after half an hour. Simple really. We took our chances. They didn't take theirs. Second half, I thought they'd rip into us, but we were very tidy at the back and soaked up the pressure well. Crooks did O.K. but looked a bit lost at times. Give him a chance. It can't be easy, coming straight into an unfamiliar team. Not a thriller, but nonetheless, deeply satisfying result. Well done Cobbs!
Ray at 14:34:29 Tuesday December 26 2000
A very welcome 3 points today with what could probably be described as a workmanlike performance. Crowd was very subdued.
Anon at 14:28:58 Tuesday December 26 2000
Isnt it a 3 o'clock kick off?
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:53:33 Tuesday December 26 2000
Thanks for the updates Festive Cobbler.I have to go out now,lets hope the lads hold out or even improve on the score in the 2nd half,I'm sure City will come out all guns blazing.
Festive Cobbler at 12:48:33 Tuesday December 26 2000
HALF-TIME 2-0! Great first half, chances galore, City should be home and dry but captain Peter Beadle missed three glorious chances. Scott Murray also hit the post. Then two goals in a minute for the Cobblers look to have given us a great chance of three points!
Festive Cobbler at 12:43:58 Tuesday December 26 2000
Not really, but City only have 2 in midfield so I think as a whole our midfield is more dominant than usual. Spedding having another good game, as is Hargreaves and Welch.
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:42:54 Tuesday December 26 2000
Does it sound like Crooks is making a difference.
Festive Cobbler at 12:36:16 Tuesday December 26 2000
City defence gone to pieces, Hargreaves shoots just past the post
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:34:56 Tuesday December 26 2000
Cheers F.C. Come on Cobblers.
Festive Cobbler at 12:33:1 Tuesday December 26 2000
This is amazing, we should've been 4-0 down, but thanks to Welch and Beadle's inept finishing, City didn't score and the Cobblers took full advantage! Cobblers on a high, COME ON TOWN!
Festive Cobbler at 12:30:27 Tuesday December 26 2000
IT'S 2-0!!!!!!!! Hargreaves cross, Forrester bullet header! TWO GOALS IN A MINUTE!
Festive Cobbler at 12:29:16 Tuesday December 26 2000
Error in Bristol City defence, Miller misses his kick, Savage runs on to ball, GOAL!!!! 1-0 COBBLERS!
Festive Cobbler at 12:28:17 Tuesday December 26 2000
Welch yet another save, instinctive from point-blank range Beadle header. We're under the cosh here, Beadle has missed a hat-trick of sitters
Festive Cobbler at 12:27:23 Tuesday December 26 2000
Another good save from Welch, tipped over Brown's 25 yard shot. Corner to City.
Festive Cobbler at 12:24:44 Tuesday December 26 2000
Sounds a cracking game, City have had FOUR decent chances, unbelievable that they haven't scored. Cobblers had a few half-chances. Fast-paced game, Cobblers need to stamp some authority on the game cos at the minute they're relying on Welch... again. Beadle guilty of missing City's best chances.
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:24:11 Tuesday December 26 2000
Is that,no,then?
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:23:23 Tuesday December 26 2000
Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anon at 12:19:36 Tuesday December 26 2000
Go and get f*cked My Old Mans you sound like a bloody Northern Shi* stabber
My old mans a Cobbler. at 12:5:32 Tuesday December 26 2000
I would appreciate updates on the game if possible Festive Cobbler,please.
Festive Cobbler at 12:1:58 Tuesday December 26 2000
COBBLERS v Bristol City: Welch; Chilvers, Sampson, Green, Spedding; Savage, Hunt, Crooks, Hargreaves; Forrester, Howard.
Festive Cobbler at 11:33:14 Tuesday December 26 2000
Yep, it appears we've got Lee Crooks on loan for a month, another defender! He's in the team today alongside Chilvers.
My old mans a cobbler. at 9:45:51 Tuesday December 26 2000
Lee Crooks anybody?
Ray at 8:2:4 Tuesday December 26 2000
Tipping will be kept open until 10 o'clock this morning.
Milkman. at 6:48:16 Tuesday December 26 2000
Morning.
Ray at 23:32:21 Monday December 25 2000
Oh dear - what a shame - lol
Giles Lawrence (Shiteboro' COBBLER) at 21:38:0 Monday December 25 2000
Well, the P**h fans are not happy around here, I can tell you - I've been walking around P'boro for the last 2 days wearing my FORRESTER shirt, and the looks and comments i've got have to been seen to be believed. The P**h fans DO NOT tolerate losing to us, and it is going to make the Jan 27th game VERY interesting...... COME ON YOU COBBLERS.......
Anon at 19:24:26 Monday December 25 2000
I think the football you have on the screen is really annoying. Please get rid of it!
My old mans a Cobbler. at 13:45:20 Monday December 25 2000
Have a great christmas everyone.And I mean EVERYONE.
Paul at 13:6:39 Monday December 25 2000
Merry Christmas one and all! Have a great day.
Spring Park Cobbler at 10:31:15 Monday December 25 2000
Sorry should read "Now lets hope" and "are all they have" later. Put it down to the two days of celebration that follow the victory of the season.
Spring Park Cobbler at 10:26:30 Monday December 25 2000
A great day on Saturday. It turned into an all day session, straight off the coach and into the Malt Shovel and then a long trawl of pubs before finishing in the Kingsthorpe K Billy. The result was still making us laugh last night and even now as I plod through reindeer droppings the second goal still flashes before me. It was a real Father Xmas effort, what was Sammo doing up there ? I,m not complaining because it made my day and the response was fantastic. I said earlier that it is the fan's job to build the players confidence and you couldn't have asked for more on Saturday and it made the difference. The team were clearly buoyed up by the tremendous support. Not lets hope the negative elements are traipsing round the Boxing day sales when we play Bristol City seeking out new anoraks to replacing the present greasy item with the huge black biro stain on the bright orange lining or cataloguing their collection of sad page 3 pictures that are they have in the way of a relationship. If the same level of support occurs on Saturday then we are going to blow Bristol City off the park. Lets build the same atmosphere for this game and make sure we shout down the mindless amongst us. Merry Xmas to all true Cobblers fans everywhere.
Gas at 9:24:17 Monday December 25 2000
PPPPPPPPPPPPAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrpppppppppppppp!!!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 1:8:45 Monday December 25 2000
Merry Christmas to you all. How many of us at the P@@h? Hope the weather is good for the Bristol game, I've got a foot of snow here. So my Christmas day golf is off!! COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
janine at 0:57:1 Monday December 25 2000
merry christmas everyone
Deepcut Cobbler at 0:53:50 Monday December 25 2000
Thanks Ray. Tipping done. Who is the imbecilic moron who purports to be from Bristol by the name of Peppy? Obviously another low life without knowledge of the great game. Constructive abuse is accepted but cretinous rantings waste peoples time. Peppy, you are the weakest contributor to this site, Goodbye!!! COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Ray at 0:24:51 Monday December 25 2000
It is now....
Santa at 23:41:50 Sunday December 24 2000
Look, just go to bed... I need the time to deliver all the presents!
Rudolph at 22:45:39 Sunday December 24 2000
So, this is Christmas?
harrold at 22:28:56 Sunday December 24 2000
ANON......DO I OWE YOU A POUND FOR THE CORNER GAME?
Anon at 22:21:13 Sunday December 24 2000
Peppy is your brother who is also your dad and your uncle coming to the game with you?
Cobbler in the West at 22:2:14 Sunday December 24 2000
A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL COBBLERS
PEPPY at 21:37:56 Sunday December 24 2000
I AM I BRISTOL CITY FAN AND I CANT WAIT FOR THE GAME ON BOXING DAY IT IS GOING TO BE A EASY GAME FOR US WHICH I CAN SEE US WINNING 4,0. U HAVE THE WORST TEAM IN DIV 2 BUT U HAVE 1 GOOD PLAYER THATS UR STRIKER JAIME FORRESTER, WHICH U WONT HAVE FOR LONG. SO I SHALL SEE U COBBLERS SCUM ON TUESDAY. UP THE CITY.
Anon at 20:34:48 Sunday December 24 2000
One thing I did not enjoy yesterday was the incessant baiting of the Peterborough fans by three 'grown' men referring to them as 'waps', 'degos' and 'eities'. Coupled with En-ger-land chants the three were a rather pathetic representation of our magnificent following. It was also pointed out to me that the three Cobbler 'fans' were in fact off duty police! Be careful out there you just don't know who is who!!!!
Danny at 19:15:31 Sunday December 24 2000
Well what a fantastic performance by the lads on and off the field. By far the best Cobblers support for ages. I've never seen anything like it..... Wembley, Torquay and the like were fantastic days but the absolute bedlam in the away end on saturday, the noise when we scored, the hysteria the jumping about, the hugging, the way the roof went flying 15,000 feet into the air. Jamie showed that he is Northampton through and through with his performance and the way he celebrated his goal. He went as mental as the fans. The players wanted it and if they and we can perform the same on tuesday, Bristol City will know how Rovers felt all those years ago, deafend and defeated. COME ON COBBLERS!!!!!
BELIEVER IN KEVIN WILSON at 18:34:24 Sunday December 24 2000
THE TRUTH, YOUR A TWAT, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!! wilson knows what he is doing< so you can shut your big mouth and piss off!!!!!
Anon at 18:19:42 Sunday December 24 2000
the pish s*ite sorry site is filling up with lots of msgs from happy cobblers fans!
Bedford Cobbler at 17:47:23 Sunday December 24 2000
evening again, i also hope all cobblers fans will take a look at my cobblers website when i get it up and running in the new year.And i will keep it up to date and there be loads of great stuff on it. ill give u all the web site address soon as its up and running, any wa merry christmas 2 all cobblers fans, im off to look at the SHITOBORO'S crap attempt for a site and get pissed! see u all on boxing day and well fuck up bristol city too, have a good one
Bedford Cobbler at 17:41:11 Sunday December 24 2000
Great performance yesterday lads, stuffed the posh!,i hope willo can sort a permanent deal over liam chilvers he will shore up our defence and help us to division 1. But we will miss daryll clare again i think him and jamie permantley would be a dominant force against defenders. anyway merry christmas to all cobblers fans and all try and get over your hangovers in time for the boxing clash with bristol city at sixfields! have a good one!
DavCobbler at 17:11:2 Sunday December 24 2000
Evening folks, still high on yesterdays result and dare say that I will be for a long toime yet to come. A perfect time for me to wish Cobblers everywhere a Merry Christmas and great 2001. All the best Cobbs !!
Neil at 16:49:8 Sunday December 24 2000
THANK YOU COBBLERS,WOTEVA PRESENTS I GET THIS XMAS,YESTERDAYS WILL BE FAR THE BEST! NOT EVEN YOUNG BRITNEY IN NOTHING BUT HER BIRTHDAY SUIT COULD CHALLENGE YESTERDAYS RESULT.THE TOWN TEAM SHOWED THEIR TRUE COLOURS,THEY WANTED IT AS MUCH AS THE FANS DID AND THEY ALL PLAYED THEIR HEARTS OUT,
I THOUGHT EVERY SINGLE PLAYER WAS SUPERB,EVEN SPEDDING PLAYED WELL!! AS FOR GREEN,ALL IS FORGIVEN U PLAYED A BLINDER.WELCHY MUST BE ONE OF THE BEST KEEPERS OUTSIDE THE PREM.SIR JAMIE LOOKS TO HAVE FOUND HIS GOALSCORING TOUCH AGAIN!!!! WE BEAT THE PISH SCUM AT LAST,ITS JUST SINKING IN AND IM SO DAMN PLEEASED I CANT STOP SMILINg.AS FOR US(THE FANS) WE WERE SUPERB,SINGING NON STOP EVEN WHEN WE WERE LOSING AND THAT MUST HAVE GIVEN THE LADS A LIFT.LETS SING JUST ASWELL ON TUESDAY AND SMASH BRISTOl CITY!!! WE HATE BORO!!! YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
Hartwell at 16:27:6 Sunday December 24 2000
Oh, yes, I presume Chilvers is a loan man ? I didn't buy a paper before the game so may well have missed it. First I knew about him was when the team was read out on the PA. Nobody round me knew his name, either!! (and no, I wasn't sitting on the Posh side!!).
Hartwell at 16:25:10 Sunday December 24 2000
Peterborough United's website can be found at Posh.net for the person asking earlier.
Deepcut Cobbler at 16:12:5 Sunday December 24 2000
Ray, can you open up the tipping competition site again so I can place my forecast, it is stuck on the table!! Thanks.. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 16:10:18 Sunday December 24 2000
How about that then?? No griping from you lot now!!! Now KW is a hero, lets keep it that way through thick and thin, not just the thick (the easy parts). Good luck for Boxing Day. Merry Christmas to all Cobblers wherever we are around the world..COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Terry Hawes - Canadian Cobbler Fan! at 15:44:57 Sunday December 24 2000
Merry XMAS everybody from Canada!
Cheers,
Terry
PS: Lets get Bristol City now lads!
south beds cobbler at 15:8:44 Sunday December 24 2000
superb proformance from our boys .right from the start they were playing for,pride,team,club and most importantly the clubs fanatical supporters. the players goal celebrations summed what it meant to tthem.lets hope we can carry on with same spirit.good luck the cobblers .happy christmas everyone..
Ed in deepest, darkest Turkey. at 14:55:15 Sunday December 24 2000
Just caught with yesterday's magnificent result. Well done everyone at NTFC for making my Christmas. I just wish I could be there on Boxing day to continue the celebrations. We've got six inches of snow outside, but I'd swop the Chrismassy scene to be part of the party. Do it again Cobblers!
Stewpot at 13:49:20 Sunday December 24 2000
Altogether now Kevin Wilson can he fix it sang to the tune of Bob the Builder...........Mery Christmas to all the contributers on here and looking forward to another year of debate and discussion and Come on the Cobblers.........and happy birthday Carlo
Boro through and through at 13:9:39 Sunday December 24 2000
Do any of you lot know where I can view the winning goal (offside?) goal yesterday. It isn't on our site yet.
britgal at 12:41:37 Sunday December 24 2000
chilvers was a star, wasn't he? Anyway, merry x-mas, one and all!
TRB Mark at 11:41:13 Sunday December 24 2000
WHAT A RESULT!! A long time coming too! Happy Christmas to all Cobblers fans!
Ray at 11:4:58 Sunday December 24 2000
It is very sad we have to gloat over our victory yesterday during this season of goodwill to all men (and women).............but what the hell Im going to do it anyway.
Simon halls Kent Cobblers at 11:0:6 Sunday December 24 2000
Thanks to all involved at the cobblers,you have just made my xmas,we beat the posh 2-1.Cobblers are back Hello,Hello.
who knows! at 10:42:40 Sunday December 24 2000
Why do Posh Supporters whistle while on the toilet?
so they know which end to wipe!
Rachel at 10:35:17 Sunday December 24 2000
that new bloke will think we get support + noise like that all the time......... so come on, boxing day we want as much nosie as there was at Peterborough from us lot! well at least a few rounds of We beat the scum 2-1 and jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way oh what fun it is to the Cobblers win away! Please, it might give them more of a will to win??!! Well it worked yesterday!
Hartwell at 10:25:41 Sunday December 24 2000
What was particularly pleasing to me was the passion the whole team showed yesterday. i suspect they had been stung by the result and the fans response last week at oxford and were determined to put it right. it was a pulsating game, fast, direct end to end stuff. you could never take your eyes off it (unlike the few hundred Posh thickheads near us on the terrace seats in the Moys Stand who spent the whole game trying to bait us - it was very satisfying to see them slinking off quietly at the end!). The huddle at the start probably said a lot about the players' collective determination and even when we were down heads didn't drop as they have so readily in the recent away games. instead we kept battling and got our rewards for being positive and taking the game to them in the second half. Quite what Samo was doing in the centre forward position I'm not sure. But his finish was so cool. Great result. Well done to the whole team for such effort and commitment. Roll on Bristol City and Wycombe!
???? at 10:13:56 Sunday December 24 2000
Cheer Up Barry Fry Oh can mean to a........ FAT BORO B*****D AND A S*IT FOOTBALL TEAM
TOWN R U GOING UP WE GOING UP
Rachel at 10:13:24 Sunday December 24 2000
Peterborough boss Barry Fry is determined his side will concentrate on their derby clash with Northampton, despite being gripped by cup fever ahead of their FA Cup tie with Chelsea.
Fry is playing it cool ahead of the game with Kevin Wilson's men at London Road.
The virus which has swept through the club in the past few days is still affecting some players, but Fry is waiting until the last minute to see who is fit to line up against the Cobblers.
Posh claimed six points over their local rivals last year and Fry is looking for a similar return this season. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Sorry about that folks but I couldn't resist!
DavCobbler at 10:11:19 Sunday December 24 2000
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH What a feeling, waking up after yesterdays game and last nights celebrations without a hangover. Thank you soooooooooo much Mr Claus or is it Mr Fry ???
Rachel at 10:10:12 Sunday December 24 2000
thanx Peterborough! That was the best game in ages! i'm glad to see you all saw my comment before the game + gave me the best Christmas pressie! Well I don't care what I'm babbleing on about there we beat the Borough who cares????? We beat the scum 2-1! We best the scum 2-1! Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way, oh what fun it is to see the cobblers win away (especially at the Borough!) HEY!!!!!!!!!
The Drilling Cobbler at 8:48:32 Sunday December 24 2000
The best atmosphere since the Bristol Rovers play-off game. The team at long last looked solid, well organised and tactically aware, lets have the same again on Boxing Day. For me, Duncan Spedding had one of his best games for us yesterday, lets hope that he has been revitalised. The boy CAN do it. And Chilvers looked very good, much better than the Sunderland Phsyco. It was great to be a part of such positive support, I didnt here the home end once during the whole game. I've critisised Wilson more than most on this site, but yesterday he proved that he can send out a well organised team on his own! Cheer up Barry Fry and merry christmas to all in claret. And particularly to yesterdays linesman!
Ray, keep the tips coming at 2:24:33 Sunday December 24 2000
Ray at 0:21:26 Saturday December 23 2000
I suddenly have a feeling of confidence (ish) about tomorrow and my tip is 2-1 to the mighty Cobbs.
Anon at 0:57:4 Sunday December 24 2000
NOTHING! merry christmas, up the cobblers Fuck the po*h
Anon at 0:56:20 Sunday December 24 2000
What's the differnece between a Peterburra utd supporter and a pile of shit?
SPLAT.......ONE MORE TIME, (WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE!!) at 0:29:41 Sunday December 24 2000
GOODNIGHT ALL, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! CHEERS BORO, IT WAS ALMOST WORTH THE WAIT! LOOK FORWARD TO JANUARY >O)) A FINER TOWN YOU'LL NEVER SEE, A FINER TOWN THEY'LL NEVER BE, BIG CITY LIGHTS DON'T BOTHER ME, NORTHAMPTON TOWN i'M PROUD TO BE!!! THE COBBLERS!!!
A TIPSY SPLAT at 0:25:43 Sunday December 24 2000
AND WHAT THE HELL WAS SAMMO DOING THERE!!!! WHO CARES, WE BEAT THE SCUM 2-1 WE BEAT THE SCUM 2-1!!!
Anon at 0:19:8 Sunday December 24 2000
The Dog,whilst the Truth may hold different views he hasn't called any fan of NTFC a dickhead or any other profanity.You are not needed on this comments board. Go Away this is for the fans not morons like you.And yes I call you a moron as you are no fan just a troublemaker.
SPLAT at 0:5:28 Sunday December 24 2000
FUCKING YESSSSS!!!!! JINGLE BELLS JINGLE BELLS JINGLE ALL THE WAY, OH WHAT FUN IT IS TO SEE THE COBBLERS WIN AWAY HEY! HOW SWEET, VERY VERY SWEET! BAD LUCK BORO, GOOD GAME! WE LOVE U COBBLERS WE DOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Gomez at 23:52:5 Saturday December 23 2000
fickle ...... very fickle and errrrr..... I told you so.
The Dog at 22:41:26 Saturday December 23 2000
TRUTH - Some of us have never put the blinkers on, we've just got more patience than you, dickhead
Ray at 22:31:21 Saturday December 23 2000
I've just watched The Matrix - and THE TRUTH was as hard to believe there as it is here.
S.B.C. at 22:28:57 Saturday December 23 2000
MESSAGE TO THE TRUTH. PISS OFF.....
Ray at 22:13:24 Saturday December 23 2000
I hope you all followed my tip and had money on it!!
My old mans a Cobbler. at 20:40:37 Saturday December 23 2000
Go to www.rivals.net and work your way to them through football sites.Try the Northampton site while you are there.
THE TRUTH!!!!!!!! at 20:39:12 Saturday December 23 2000
I am sorry although it was great to beat the pish today after all these year's. The result changes nothing Wilson has got to go! This one result changes nothing please everyone don't be blinkered.
ED2 at 20:21:21 Saturday December 23 2000
Has any one got POSH,S website address, PLEASE ?
ED-2 at 20:17:23 Saturday December 23 2000
Has anyone got peterborough,s Web Site address please??
R+D at 20:9:14 Saturday December 23 2000
I just remembered I haven't left a message on this site for ages so I thought I would. I expect it was a very hard fought victory today, as it always is in local clashes. So thorough congratulations to you all. Can you just shead light on the away attendace for me, and what was it like before and after the game, any violence. Of course I hope not. Anyway, come on you whites and I hope we'll be in your division before too long. As ever, R+D.
Get another round in at 19:54:16 Saturday December 23 2000
This afternoon was what supporting the Cobblers was all about! Superb volume from the fans.M O M-Welch followed closely by Spedding and Chilvers.We have the ability now the consistancy.
Norwich Cobbler at 19:28:23 Saturday December 23 2000
Father Christmas does exist - YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rodney at 19:0:18 Saturday December 23 2000
Lengthy report on today's game available on the Posh website. Suggests that Cobblers dominated posession but Posh cut out the main goalscoring chances and that Wechy was man of the match. Barry Fat said that he was gutted. Shame...
Ralph at 18:39:29 Saturday December 23 2000
What a difference! MOM award goes to the travelling thousands who sang their lungs to shreds from start to finish, hardly a moan in earshot. Wunderful stuff!! Welchy came a close second with three great saves and solid on corners. New bloke looked good too, Spedding had a much better day. Sammo and Greene contrived to give them a goal but a sublime finish by Sammo and a lenghthy and deliberate appreciation of the fans at the end by Greene absolves them both. Clare got behind them a few times in the second half, Hunt and Hargreaves were back to their best, Savvo was up for it and battled well. Steve Howard won just about every header, defended and harassed and Jamie was back to his old self. Good to see the 'huddle' back before the game that really got us going. Three tough games coming up but with the fighting spirit on display today we should be alright for seven points. The most amazing thing on view on the coldest day of the season was seeing Carl in his shorts, I hope your bits aren't frozen Carl! Merry Christmas All.
Cockermouth Cobbler at 18:14:9 Saturday December 23 2000
The nightmare is over - and in what style! Thanks for the early present. Ninth in the table again with a game in hand.
Loop Guru at 18:8:5 Saturday December 23 2000
were the big hard pish supporters out again today beating women and children up??
MK Cobbler at 17:52:32 Saturday December 23 2000
I hope the tide has turned and that we can now go on to beat Bristol City, who looked a good side on t.v. last night, and Wycombe. Then thwe small matter of Reading away on 1 Jan. Come on you Cobblers!
britgal at 17:51:35 Saturday December 23 2000
it was on our way out that the second goal occured.... i stopped for a second, turned around, and saw the players in the area and... yessss!! When i was leaving tho, this man yelled at us: "stay!! you're not proper supporters if u leave!" That really pissed me off, cos i was willing to risk being beaten up, to watch the last 7 minutes and walk to the city centre alone for a bus, but wasn't allowed. Grrrr
Hotelender at 17:50:11 Saturday December 23 2000
Well done the lads. What a good Xmas prezzie. Looking forward to Tuesday and some more stuffing. Don't forget it's 12 o'clock (as if you would!)
Rodney at 17:36:17 Saturday December 23 2000
You could not write a better script: a terrible run, losing away to the local rivals the Saturday before Christmas...then a complete turnaround. It even surpasses our two victories there under Graham Carr. We can all stop moaning for a while, enjoy our turkey and I hope the ground is full Boxing Day. I do have a free ticket going in the North Stand for anyone who wants it. E-mail me and have a Merry Xmas.
britgal at 17:35:8 Saturday December 23 2000
due to the fact that my cousin had to get to work in northampton, we had to leave 5 mins early. I was especially keen to see us score another goal and whip those scummers' behinds, and offered to stay and watch the rest of the match, then walk to the central bus station of peterborough proudly displaying my cobblers shirt. My aunt didn't seem to agree with this idea.
britgal at 17:31:5 Saturday December 23 2000
at half time my cousins had given up, but no, i said. we r gonna win this one, I know it! Even so, Jamie's well deserved goal was a huge shock! the cobblers fan jumping and spontaneously breaking out into the Jamie song...
God, i love that player, he is the best! Never sell him.
britgal at 17:22:21 Saturday December 23 2000
Before the match we met their 'cute' mascot the fluffy bunny, who was molested by our Clarence, trying to remove it's head, to the applause of the cobblers fans.... Then the match began: we looked really strong, and i wouldn't criticise any of our players with us playing the most attacking football, and our fans making the most noise. Even their unexpected goal didn't shut us up.
My old mans a Cobbler at 17:20:46 Saturday December 23 2000
Thank you,thank you,thank you to Kevin Wilson and the players.I couldn't get there today and had to listen to that smug Posh git on Talk sport.What a great result.Britgal,please feel free to give us your comments on the game.
Tony at 17:19:18 Saturday December 23 2000
Perhaps some of the morons on this site who believe they have the wit of Woody Allen and the footballing acumen of Alex Ferguson will now get off Wilsons back and leave the man to manage the club without the constant sniping!! Happy Christmas.
britgal at 17:15:18 Saturday December 23 2000
can i be the first person to give a match report? i live basically in peterborough so i am home already! but oh my god.....
britgal at 17:14:13 Saturday December 23 2000
yesssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!! that was the best match i have been to for a very long time!
Tim at 16:56:29 Saturday December 23 2000
FT : 2-1 to the Cobs !!
Sid at 16:54:35 Saturday December 23 2000
Great victory for Town! 2-1!!!
Sid at 16:53:57 Saturday December 23 2000
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
ML at 16:45:37 Saturday December 23 2000
COBBLERS 2 1 UP
Tim at 16:45:27 Saturday December 23 2000
sampson '83 2-1 !!!!!!!
Big Roy at 16:32:59 Saturday December 23 2000
1 - 1. Forrester!
Anon at 16:9:0 Saturday December 23 2000
Is the site updating? Nothing since 11.17 and Rachel's comment - what's happening at the game ? why are we losing - COME ON COBBLERS!!!!!!!!
Rachel at 11:17:58 Saturday December 23 2000
Come on Cobblers Give us fans an early christmas present, an away win @ Peterborough
Carl at 11:13:30 Saturday December 23 2000
Bloody hell, saturday morning, huge hangover, but a game of football to look forward too. Northampton Town versus Peterborough United. This is it, today is that day.
Rachel at 11:10:52 Saturday December 23 2000
Its only 3hrs 45mins 2 Pishborough!
vinnie at 11:10:32 Saturday December 23 2000
could anybody what time the mounties are leaveing
Paul at 10:44:50 Saturday December 23 2000
Thanks ANON, earlier than I thought, buet hey, we get there sooner!
Giles Lawrence (Shiteboro' COBBLER) at 5:43:6 Saturday December 23 2000
Don't hold me to it, but I asked a policeman here in Shiteboro' yesterday for advice for my fellow COBBLERS supporters on where to park, and he advised the PARK & RIDE, and that the POLICE are THINKING of CLOSING THE PUBS b4 and AFTER the game...... See you all there....... (I'll be the one with the "18 FORRESTER" shirt and little Clarence)...
Ray at 0:21:26 Saturday December 23 2000
I suddenly have a feeling of confidence (ish) about tomorrow and my tip is 2-1 to the mighty Cobbs.
Anon at 0:16:7 Saturday December 23 2000
This the one you lost?
Anon at 0:4:22 Saturday December 23 2000
come on you blues, come on you blues; if you think you're hard enough remember the battle of the park?
Anon at 23:55:44 Friday December 22 2000
The Trust coach leaves at 12:30
DavCobbler at 22:42:6 Friday December 22 2000
Congratulations Spring Park Cobb, very well put. See you there tomorrow fella !!! UTC FTP !!!!!
Spring Park Cobbler at 20:56:3 Friday December 22 2000
Feeling apprehensive about tomorrows game. The recent run of defeats doesn't make for a great build up to what is the game to win if your a regular supporter. However I think our turn has finally come in this fixture since the late eighties they have had the edge in this derby. The worst defeat to my mind was when Paul Culpin ex-Cobblers striker knocked one in at the hotel end. I think it's our turn this Saturday and we need to get behind the lads. With a bit of the luck the negative whingers will find the weather too cold for them and remain in their dingy bedsits with one bar burning and only cold pot noodles to look forward to. The rest of us will be getting a few down our necks and practising "The Fields are Green" before moving into the London Rd and creating the passionate atmosphere that will push our lads to victory over the old enemy. Remember to give EVERY one of our players a massive cheer when their name is read out and build their confidence before ko. Remember its the fans job to build the players confidence on the pitch.
Just a point I seem to remember that Coventry used to be the enemy in the past or am I just degenerating ?
Get behind the lads tomorrow and whingers piss off!
Paul at 19:53:45 Friday December 22 2000
Hey guys, (and gals) what time is the trust coach leaving tomorrow? And what time do we have to get to Sixfields for? ANy help is much appreciated!
Big Roy at 18:32:44 Friday December 22 2000
Well said marco.
Another Moaner at 18:21:34 Friday December 22 2000
Boxing Day: Why all ticket for home fans and why midday k.o.? I reckon we will have a gate of about 6,000 whereas if it was not all ticket for home fans we would have another 1,000 on the day. Result - NTFC lose about £12,000 in income. Thank you Northants Police.
Nosey Parker at 17:44:44 Friday December 22 2000
I think Wilson had more luck when he had that sily tache under his nose?
marco at 16:42:42 Friday December 22 2000
Typically positive response from the man with no name. I'm sure there's plenty of people who will be happy to see him fail in the same way I heard some idiots booing and slagging off mark maley on his debut! If Forrester doesn't score in the next couple of games I'm sure they'll get on his back as well. We've always known that there's a strong pessimistic streak amongst us cobblers, probably borne of years of underperformance and struggle. I've grown used to it but do we really have to keep up this pointless boo-boy behaviour whether it be christian lee, ally gibb or more recently duncan spedding does any think it's really helping them or their team-mates. No-one can fail to see how edgy they are on the pitch because of the "supporters" reactions to everything they do. No-one expects unconditional support for the team if they're not giving their all but knocking the confidence of young players is not the answer. Sermon over!
Anon at 16:6:13 Friday December 22 2000
Depends if they mean losing a whole load of games is experience.
marco at 15:50:15 Friday December 22 2000
Arsenal's 19-year-old central defender Liam Chilvers, a regular in their
reserves, has joined Second Division Northampton on a month's loan. An Arsenal
spokesman said: "It is hoped this will give him valuable first-team
experience."
Paul at 15:43:9 Friday December 22 2000
Of course we will be watching tonights game Gas, it will give us a good chance to see how they play, so we can tell if we truly are crap when we play them Boxing day!
Paul at 15:41:41 Friday December 22 2000
So another centerback in Liam Chilvers joins us on Loan, perhaps he will inject some much needed pace into the center of our defence?
BR at 15:31:18 Friday December 22 2000
or Northampton Gas even!
Big Roy at 15:29:53 Friday December 22 2000
I'll go Tuesday if that's OK Northamton Gas. Best wishes for Xmas and the new year to you too.
Northampton Gas at 15:14:16 Friday December 22 2000
I wish all Cobblers fans a very merry Christmas and prosperous new year. Please don't bother to watch tonight's game on Sky 2, as I feel it may be rather embarrassing for me. Kevin Wilson will be at Traston Gate tonight, please see them off on Monday
wboro_cobbler at 14:42:9 Friday December 22 2000
sorry, post pub, the pub recs for Saturday
wboro_cobbler at 14:40:28 Friday December 22 2000
Still looking for the best recommendations for pubs on cobbler
CHRISTMAS COBBLER at 14:37:42 Friday December 22 2000
KEV,HOW CAN I PUT IT? I CAN`T I SUPPOSE,BUT BASICALLY IF THE BOYS DON`T WIN TOMORROW YOU`LL BE PICKING YOUR P45 UP ON YOUR WAY OUT.............GOOD LUCK AND UP THE TOWN
stupidstuart at 14:12:7 Friday December 22 2000
As i cant make it tomorrow i would just like to say to everyone 'Get behind the team'. Good luck to Kevin and the players - my mind will be with you.
We will get over this bad run - every team has one - good job that it is now and not nearer the end of the season. Keep the faith and stop barracking certain players - encouragement is the name of the game.
Pete at 14:7:27 Friday December 22 2000
or was it Acrington Stanley, might have been Chelsea- but I fancy he is hiding the truth, it is Northampton Town- he's got good taste.
Pete at 13:56:39 Friday December 22 2000
Just spoken to Jamie - he says Aston Villa
WOZ at 13:1:24 Friday December 22 2000
MERRY XMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL COBBLERS FANS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Woz at 12:56:42 Friday December 22 2000
HATE PETERBORO'WE ONLY HATE PETERBORO'.COME ON COBBLERS LETS STUFF THE POSH TOMORROW!!
SUNDERLAND COBBLER at 12:6:22 Friday December 22 2000
Good day one and all,
have just read about the interest from Sunderland. Well i can tell you that There has been very little interest up here about the main man in the local media. So that could well be duff info from somewhere.
Hope we beat the Poo well.
VIVA LA REVOLUTION! DAVE.E
PATTCOBB at 12:2:2 Friday December 22 2000
Something tells me the time is ripe.......not since 1987 have we taken any points off of The Poo surely our time has come, favourite formation has to be 5-3-2 purely because of the injuries/suspensions we have.I don't think anybody will complain about that especially if Hope (less) plays back in a 3 where he is better off than at left back.Incidently did anyone feel as I most certainly did that the police were heavy handed last weeek at Oxford(4 police horses and more police than for West Ham v Chelsea games -according to Cobblerhammer who was with us - for a crowd of 4,300 seemed over the top one wonders what their prescence will be tomorrow. Have we gained a reputation this season because of various incidents.......MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL COBBLERS FROM ALL THE PATTISHALL/ASTCOTE COBBLERS.....
Word of Warning at 10:55:0 Friday December 22 2000
Festive fighting point: watch out what pubs you recommend on this board, as Posh fans do read this board and may just be among the moronic minority who are looking out for info as regards where to find groups of Cobblers fans. You know how sad these people are. It happened with The Beehive after the away game last year, for example, though no actual fighting went on.
Stan the Exile at 10:9:29 Friday December 22 2000
Haven't visited this site for some time. Pity it's gone downhill. Surely you can excise the rubbish before it hits the site as it only serves to spoil the the image and reduce the credibility of the forum. This comment is, of course, directed at the mindless morons who are unable to make sensible comments or have to use expletives. Maybe this site should be for individuals who apply to join the discussion and are issued with a password on receipt of their e-mail address and an undertaking not to use offensive language.
Can't wait to see the cobblers in action down here in Bristol. Best wishes for the festive season to all genuine cobblers fans. As for the rest of you - grow up, get a life and go away.
Egit + the gobshites at 22:47:19 Thursday December 21 2000
WE HATE THE COBBLERS!!!
UP THE HATTERS!!!!
MK18 Cobbler at 22:39:35 Thursday December 21 2000
We have all had our say. Now lets get behind the boys for the Christmas games beginning east of us on saturday. Things might look different by 1 Jan.
Anon at 21:21:43 Thursday December 21 2000
come on cobblers good luck in the most one sided so called local derby of all time .it could be bury f.c, for all they care .unless we shake the bushes up a bit we will allways have rivalry with some no mark good for nothing fen land no marks like p,boro.stop this onesided nonsense .div one here we come.lets play some proper teams..
Sceptic at 21:21:24 Thursday December 21 2000
Good news to hear that Sunderland are stupid enough to agree to pay us a million pounds for Jamie next May, even though in that time he may not score one more goal, could break a leg, be run over by a bus or various other disasterous scenarios. Hey, is that sleigh bells I hear?
Laddo at 20:47:50 Thursday December 21 2000
Having read Wilsons lament in the clubs official news-what he fails (again) to openly admit to the fans is that the Cobblers HAVE NOT WON ONE REPEAT ONE MATCH SINCE THE 4th november.
WILSON THE TRUE FANS ARE WATCHING YOU -SO GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.
PLEASE GIVE US A WIN BEFORE 2001
Hartwell at 20:27:45 Thursday December 21 2000
Well, we've now got Jamie down for two Prem clubs! He may or may not be going. Meantime let's just hope he'll get back into the goalscoring habit with us!
Rachel at 20:12:38 Thursday December 21 2000
Well done to the Youth team last night! Especially to Our number 4 Mark Spooner? I know its spooner not sure on 1st name but he woz brill!! Even though you went out it was an excellent performance!
BENTHECOBBLER at 19:27:30 Thursday December 21 2000
NORTHAMPTON WILL BEAT THOSE BORO SCUM SATURDAY, PUT THE LOSING RUN TO A STOP AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY. NORTHAMPTON TOWN WILL BEAT P*SH, THEN WE'LL WIN AT HOME AGAINST THEM AT SIXFIELDS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO PARTIES (MAYBE MORE). WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO WE'LL BEAT BORO
Get another round in at 18:15:22 Thursday December 21 2000
Recommended town centre pubs for Saturday.Bogarts-North St. College Arms-Broadway. Cherry Tree-Oundle Road LETS PARTY !!!!!
???????? at 18:10:39 Thursday December 21 2000
I think that John Hodge is the link to why Northampton are losing...
I mean we've every game since Frickly and our weakness is the Midfield in every game so i ask you who's been missing since Fricky game and is a Midfield? ................. JOHN HODGE
Hodge is been putting in quality crosses. So when Hodge returns our game winning spell returns
COME BACK QUICKLY HODGE, PLEASE
The Romsey Cobbler at 17:3:7 Thursday December 21 2000
Has everyone seen Kevin Wilson's comments today? In my view he's spot on - every team hits a bad patch and ours has just ended. We're going to stuff the Posh on Saturday and we can all play our part by getting behind the team and encouraging them. Come on Cobblers!
Anon at 16:40:19 Thursday December 21 2000
Cobblers and Sunderland have apparently agreed a fee of over £1 million and Jamie is going there in May
Anon at 16:16:56 Thursday December 21 2000
With reference to the premiership club looking at Forrester I can confirm that Leicester have been looking at a lower league striker but have said they will not be dictated to over the price they will only pay what they feel he is worth.
Anon at 16:14:1 Thursday December 21 2000
With the Bridge shut on Saturday anybody know of a decent pub for a drink (hopefully away from idiots intent on causing trouble).
Ray at 14:47:18 Thursday December 21 2000
£1.2 million? hmmm - tempting...
Hartwell at 14:46:17 Thursday December 21 2000
I don't know where the Forrester/Leicester rumour comes from but I heard chatter a few days ago that a Prem League club is offering £1.2 million for him. Maybe the two rumours are linked ? I must stress, however, that the whisper I heard is totally unsubstantiated. Whatever, at least it gives us something to chatter about!!
Claudette at 9:4:11 Thursday December 21 2000
Town lads lost in the FA Youth Cup last night to Blackburn Rovers. After a goalless 120 mins. they lost 3-2 on penalties. They put up a good show, but I don't think there can be too many complaints, Blackburn were the stronger team throughout, and we did not threten their goal too often. I liked their number 10 - can i have him in my Christmas stocking?
Claret Bloodybastard at 22:54:49 Wednesday December 20 2000
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Slurp......gulp !!!!!!!!!
The Character God Judge Pickled at 22:54:12 Wednesday December 20 2000
Claret Bloodbath aka Claret Bloodybastard you have been found guilty of terrible crimes against those that frequent these pages and those that work for the Cobblers.You are nothing more than a jumped up , inconsiderate computer nerd who has no feelings for anyone other than yourself.You assume people treat what you post as being the drivel it is intended to be but fail to recognise that some actually believe it.(gasps from the gallery )You have single handedly brought the good name of Kev the man Wilson into disrepute and suggested that Hartwell, an erstwhile and elderly statesman of these pages has a gas problem. I hereby sentence you and all of your kind to eternal damnation in the Purgatory that is the ether in the black hole that is at the rear end of Thw Webmasters bott bott. You will never frequent these pages again.Begone to never return you orrible little man.
S.B.C. at 22:24:2 Wednesday December 20 2000
FORRESTER MUST STAY!!!!
south beds cobblers. at 22:20:7 Wednesday December 20 2000
MCNEIL, RILEY, HILL, MCGOLDRICK, ADDCOCK, E.T.C. E.T.C.
ALL SOLD CHEAPLY TO INFERIOR OPPOSITION, FOR VERY LITTLE RETURN.
FORRESTER MUST STAY!!!
MartinW at 21:25:23 Wednesday December 20 2000
MartinWandaChild'sView'smate (whoever you are) - I would have been very interested in those comments if I had not already read them. And commented on them. But it is probably a piss take and so the above should be consigned to the bin marked DUH, SLOW ON THE UPTAKE. Exactly who are you, anyway. And do you like Robins? I think so. Wibble.
FINALLY, IF MILLWALL CAN TURN DOWN £2.5M FOR NEIL HARRIS - DOES THAT NOT MAKE FORRESTER'S STOCK HIGHER. THEY ARE THE SAME AGE. MAYBE WE ARE UNDERESTIMATING EVEN THE £1M.
Lost at 20:52:9 Wednesday December 20 2000
Sense of humour
oh dear at 20:51:2 Wednesday December 20 2000
I think that was a joke Alli!
Alli at 20:27:54 Wednesday December 20 2000
Forrester gone to leicester to-day? Is this true- can any one confirm this?? If so has Wi;son gone as well --if not he will be hissed off the ground on Boxing day
WILSON OUT WILSON OUT- as quick as possible!!!!!
ck at 19:23:2 Wednesday December 20 2000
As an Everton fan i can suggest that every cobblers fan hopes for santa to give you one of Peter Clarke (young defender), Phil Jevons (striker), Leon Osman (centre-mid) or Kevin McLeod (left mid.) on loan. They are all excellent players (Everton won the FA youth cup with them) and big Walter would jump at the chance for them to get experience, and it could re-start your season.
The Blue Dog at 19:11:49 Wednesday December 20 2000
Yesterday will return tomorrow my friend but today I stand with those in need, for I am loyal and will ever be so.
Hartwell at 17:35:48 Wednesday December 20 2000
I'm amused that anyone should think I'm a visionary!! If I were I wouldn't be pottering around here. I'd have invented the tank, parachute and helicopter by now, anyway. Incidentally the fact that there are some decent English coaches doesn't alter the argument. Fact is they are a minority and if you lined up end to end all the failures among ex-players without any coaching credentials the line would reach the moon and back to peterborough.
WantedMan at 17:32:49 Wednesday December 20 2000
Come and get your shirt icons - www.iconsunited.co.uk.
sibs at 17:19:39 Wednesday December 20 2000
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/football/teams/n/northampton_town/newsid_1079000/1079520.stm BBC's version of the Echo's report mentioned earlier.
Mal at 16:10:3 Wednesday December 20 2000
Bit of Xmas merriment. Good King Wencleslas phones Pizza hut for delivery. The assistant asks is it your usual sir? That's right,
Deep pan crisp an even.
Mal at 16:9:24 Wednesday December 20 2000
Bit of Xmas merriment. Good King Wencleslas phones Pizza hut for delivery. The assistant asks is it your useal sir? That's right,
Deep pan crisp an even.
Got Dem Old Big Dog Blues at 13:29:55 Wednesday December 20 2000
Where are all our yesterdays ? If you don't wear Adidas sweatbands on your wrists and blow it out your arse big time then you aint no friend of mine.Mr Wilson needs a good friend.
Surrey Cobbler at 13:14:19 Wednesday December 20 2000
A ha, very good sweaty cobbler, but I am the real one, and you are just my little sister!!! I agree, and indeed would say the same, but with more swearing. You have been uncovered you naughty little munchkin!!
Phil Baron at 12:55:5 Wednesday December 20 2000
I hope I am wrong but I think Pooboro will win very easily on Saturday.......They are on a bit of a roll bt they have to be quick before Fry eats it!!!
pattcobbs new secretary at 11:4:1 Wednesday December 20 2000
Too much sherry around here methinks!!.........
PATTCOBB at 11:2:57 Wednesday December 20 2000
Away in a manger....................
"Away to the boro,no chance in the world,apart from young huntie ,we're playing like girls,the little lord Wilson,what does he say,"an ideal opportunity,to turn things our way...But you know what'll happen, you've seen it before,the fans can get up for it ,but the players no more......
Carl at 10:28:9 Wednesday December 20 2000
I'm off for Christmas from work, but will pop in over the Seasonal period, now and then to see what is going on in Cobblers land. So to all have a good Christmas and may the results go right, it's about time. Have Fun don't drink too much, and let's sing The Cobblers to victory on Saturday and in the future. UP THE COBBLERS!!!!!
Absolute Definate at 10:16:22 Wednesday December 20 2000
Can confirm that Forrester is going to Leicester to-day - his wife wants to finish off the christmas shopping.
MartinW and A Child's View's mate at 10:16:3 Wednesday December 20 2000
Spotted these quotes from KW re Forrester. Thought you might be interested.
"I was quoted as saying a price of £500,000 for him last week, but with the current market of strikers in the country you have to be looking at him being worth £1 million. I don't want to lose Forrester from this football club. The reason why he has done well this season is because of his goals and his brightness on the pitch. On Saturday he earned us a penalty and always looked a real threat, even though when he missed the chance at the end that rounded off our day because he normally sticks them away."
100% Cobbler at 9:52:25 Wednesday December 20 2000
But you lot are nothing but a load of pathetic whingers. Ok its a bad run but we are mid table. 6 months ago, even 6 weeks ago you thought Kevin Wilson was king. If your opinion has changed so much that you want him sacked now then I think it says far more about you than it ever will about him. Get behind him.
Lafan at 9:49:16 Wednesday December 20 2000
Really sorry to hear.
Carl at 8:57:9 Wednesday December 20 2000
Mr. Bloodybastard, ok I think I understood your last statement, but me being a thick clod hopping divvy not completely sure. We will just agree to disagree, seems fair to me.
Well, it made me larf..... at 8:42:22 Wednesday December 20 2000
Heard on 5 Live this morning, A group of chess players were checking into a hotel and while they were waiting all they did was talk about how well they had done in a chess tournament they had just won. After a while the hotel manager came out of his office and asked them to leave. Why? Beacause he didn't like Chess nuts boasting in an open foyer.
Claret Bloodybastard at 7:58:32 Wednesday December 20 2000
In response Fartwell,ours in England simply aint .You, if you were the visionary you proport to be would have pointed this out a few years ago.Honestly, how many English coaches are there in the Premier who run decent teams ?oops John Gregory !!!!!!!! blimey a Cobbler !! To Carl, you are Claret through and through and whilst our opinions differ our sentiments don't.Whilst our proposed pathway differs our desired outcome does not.Too many tosspots worried about what people think to offer a solution to second rate dross, oh and ne'r do wells with high opinions of themselves such as myself always fall foul of themselves so fear not I will be killed shortly. Why on earth do people give a poop about non entities that dont exist ?..life and get are two words that spring to mind.....yawn
The Truth Hurts at 7:39:22 Wednesday December 20 2000
Anyone ever compared Jamie Forrester to George Reilly ? he played in a shit team who couldn't win and still scored.
MartinW at 0:2:21 Wednesday December 20 2000
Daryl Clare v Jamie Forrester.
A bit like comparing Jason Lee with Ronaldo.
MartinW at 0:0:16 Wednesday December 20 2000
I wrote a very interesting piece just then. I thought. But i went away. The gist of it was that if we can't learn to defend, we will be relegated. There, that's much easier to read. Oh and we might just have been better under Atkins. Coz atleast we would defend but have Forrester there to get the vital goal. Actually, strike that, Carlisle are bottom. What does Atkins know about anything. I mean, he thinks Wenger wouldn't have a hope with Carlisle. A little better than your hope, eh, Atko. Without team spirit, of which there is NONE, and an ounce of a clue about defending, we are on the way down folks. Make not mistake about it. And this is not a doom and gloom merchant. I love the club. I'm being honest. Based on what i have seen. I'd love it to turn round. But it is not looking like that is going to happen, people.
Paul at 23:5:50 Tuesday December 19 2000
I'm prepared to wait another few days before making final judgement, and if we WIN WIN WIN Wilson will be a god again!
Paul at 23:5:3 Tuesday December 19 2000
Oh.. Oh.. Oh what a lovely war... POSH HERE WE COME!!
AB 28 at 22:34:44 Tuesday December 19 2000
Is ED2 used because you cant spell WANKER or just a name to hide behind,if it is your spelling try copying and paste from earlier
Supertramp at 21:53:42 Tuesday December 19 2000
Crises? what CRISIS?
ED-2 at 21:7:19 Tuesday December 19 2000
Quote from to-days evening ECHO by non other than WILSON himself."This is where it is GREAT from my point of view, that I can have a look now and see who will come and have a go and be strong. I will NOW find out the characters and what kind of people I've got around me because it is easy when you are winning."
Iam so pleased that WILSON finds the present CRISES so GREAT and that he now will try and find out something about the players!!!Even some of the players that he actually purchased.He is such a prize ------ living in his own dream world, with not a care . This is what Fans have to put up with..PLEASE will the Board of Directors wake up and remember that the fans actually have high Expectations from their club and that is why we travel 100's of miles most weeks and pay high prices to attend matches--wihout your fans there will be No club.Boxing Days match will see the Fans being a little more than upset if nothing is done to reduce the CRISES.Wilson give the fans a Xmas present.Please!!! Do not forget that we have Not won a league match since November 4th.
ED-2 at 21:6:45 Tuesday December 19 2000
Quote from to-days evening ECHO by non other than WILSON himself."This is where it is GREAT from my point of view, that I can have a look now and see who will come and have a go and be strong. I will NOW find out the characters and what kind of people I've got around me because it is easy when you are winning."
Iam so pleased that WILSON finds the present CRISES so GREAT and that he now will try and find out something about the players!!!Even some of the players that he actually purchased.He is such a prize ------ living in his own dream world, with not a care . This is what Fans have to put up with..PLEASE will the Board of Directors wake up and remember that the fans actually have high Expectations from their club and that is why we travel 100's of miles most weeks and pay high prices to attend matches--wihout your fans there will be No club.Boxing Days match will see the Fans being a little more than upset if nothing is done to reduce the CRISES.Wilson give the fans a Xmas present.Please!!! Do not forget that we have Not won a league match since November 4th.
s.b.c. at 20:46:50 Tuesday December 19 2000
our season re-starts saturday my prediction .two-nill.to the cobblers. up the town...
?????????? at 20:46:15 Tuesday December 19 2000
Unless you won't to be stupid and lose the respect of the fans
THEN FINE SELL F**KING FORRESTER
But it will the most foolish in the history of NORTHAMPTON
DON'T SELL FORRESTER PLEASE,WILSON
Simon at 20:40:53 Tuesday December 19 2000
Northern Ed you can't be a true support, wow so we lose a few games big WHOOP! i mean everybody's got to lose so blame Wilson man.
Kevin Wilson is a Top Man!
One Message to Kevin don't you DARE!!!!! sell Jaime Forrester!
We probably won't see another Jaime ever again
The Drilling Cobbler at 18:57:34 Tuesday December 19 2000
Wellingborough Cobbler, I am finalising the arrangements for the beer bus this saturday. Can you ring me on 07970078386 and let us know how many seats you want. Price will be a maximum of 10quid each - its costing 160 quid for a 22seater with a driver. Ive got around a dozen so far and havnt really pushed it. Cheers.
britgal at 18:53:44 Tuesday December 19 2000
are the whole of the posh first team still down with food poisoning? Even if they aren't PLEASE cobblers, don't ruin my x-mas! This is v. important!
Don't Panic !! at 18:52:7 Tuesday December 19 2000
Please Kevin let's go back to the successful 5 at the back, with Hargreaves at his more productive left wing-back.Stop the goals conceeded priority one, because we have two proven goal scorers in Forrester and Gabbiadini, when they have the correct service around the box.Lets go to Boro' on mass and have an early Xmas party.JINGLE BELLS.......
Same old story at 17:37:18 Tuesday December 19 2000
Yeah maybe Forrester will go but Wilson won't leave till May, cmon this is Northampton.
Northern Ed at 16:18:38 Tuesday December 19 2000
What's all this about being soft on Wilson. He is paid a respectful Salary but is Failing very badly to produce the results expected. In any normal commercial business he would have been given his P45 some weeks ago.He has only up to Boxing Day to turn things around or do the honourable thing and walk. Do not forget his recent record-only one win in the last EIGHT league games ( and that win was on the 4th of Nov some 2 days after Wilson management skills were clearly displayed when he sacked Broadhurst )His latest demonstration of management skill was this week was his sudden change in the value of Jamie Forrester from £1/2M to £1M. in a few days.Any decent negotiator with another club will be able to talk him downwards, so expect Forrester or Howard to be more or less given away at a fee well below their true commercial value.Our only hope is to pray for something that might come at Xmas time--and even that is expecting too much.UP THE COBBLERS--we are the true Fans not the manager or the present Board.
Anon at 16:13:41 Tuesday December 19 2000
I dont care if we lose every game as long as we beat the Peterboro crap.
Carl at 15:10:57 Tuesday December 19 2000
To be honest, if we don't turn out in our thousands on Saturday and fill it to the extent of previous years then there really is no hope.
Good source at 15:4:53 Tuesday December 19 2000
Who said the ticket sales were slow,even after 5 defeats on the trot 2,000 tickets have already been sold,PROPER supporters not Direones bandwaggoners!!
Mr. Biscuit at 14:59:29 Tuesday December 19 2000
So that was the single point you took out of that posting
Father Jack at 14:44:6 Tuesday December 19 2000
Biscuits!!
Anon at 14:43:25 Tuesday December 19 2000
Dear Mr Biscuit - that's exactly the point - we have the most potent strike force in the division. That's why we're so frustrated at the awful recent performances - we've got some cracking players, we just need the turkeys to trot in step with each other.
Hartwell at 14:43:14 Tuesday December 19 2000
CB - so you're happy for things to go on the way they are ? Don't you want things to improve ? The reason I mentioned the way that Serie A operates its coaching framework is not to compare us with them. It's just to point out that they have a more professional approach to management and by and large ours in England is still stuck exactly where it was years ago. Clubs still think that because someone had a good playing career they will automatically make a good coach/manager without giving them any training. Would you expect someone coming to mend your electrics to have no training for the job ?
No, I think this might take any biscuit award. Stolen from Sid's site, sorry Sid at 14:31:25 Tuesday December 19 2000
BP posted on 18/12 7:42 am
Support your fekking team Wobs
I thought we were fickled bloody hell, some poor performancea thats all, and you desert your
club.
The travelling support is dwindling look at Rotherham and even Oxford, and ADVANCED ticket
sales for the bigone are slow.
You have on paper the most potent strike force in the Division, a nice stadium, a massive
catchment area/fan base, I hope you lot don't go all shy on us for next week.
I read the postingabout it being 5-0 to us, garbage it will as ever be a well contested 1-0 win to
someone.
One of these days you will beat us.
There will be serious traffic conjestion around the football ground before and after the game and
also the the infamous Bridge pub has now been closed so it may be better that you park down
Oundle Rd facing West and find a boozer away from the ground.
Sonny at 14:19:27 Tuesday December 19 2000
That, as they say, probably takes the biscuit!
The bloody clock at 14:18:51 Tuesday December 19 2000
Leave me alone, I'm not doing anything.
JDTNTFC at 14:17:25 Tuesday December 19 2000
A Message to the silent fans
Lets try singing on starday you never know the players might get some confidence if they think we are supporting them.
so scream and shout for all your worth. Because i am sick of losing to boro.
P.S.
Will somebody do something about that bloody clock
In other words ... at 14:11:32 Tuesday December 19 2000
We expect to see (a) a game plan (a few tactics) (b) a bit of skill (c) a hell of a lot of effort. Not much to ask, is it?
Let's get one thing straight .. at 14:1:43 Tuesday December 19 2000
Without us, the loyal supporters, the club wouldn't exist. We pay our money to attend matches, buy the programmes & merchandise which actually pays the (not inconsiderable) wages of people who are supposed to be professional sportsmen. In return, on a weekly basis or so, we expect to see a certain degree of professionalism. At the very least, we expect to see hard work, effort and some attempts to put into practice what skills and tactics they supposedly practice and develop during the rest of the week. If we as fans get irate, it's because of the lack of commitment which has been evident in recent weeks, not because we want to have a go at anyone. It's about time the team and the Manager woke up to this, every single one of you. If you can't put in the commitment befitting professional sportsmen, then pack it in and go and kick around in the park.
Carl at 13:48:18 Tuesday December 19 2000
Nope, I need them.
Anon at 13:43:56 Tuesday December 19 2000
Carl, can I borrow your rose-tinted glasses please?
Anon at 13:32:58 Tuesday December 19 2000
Shouldn't that be 'Peace and Love'?
Wizz at 13:31:45 Tuesday December 19 2000
Can I just take this opportunity of wishing all the commentators a very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year too! Love and Peace.
Ray at 12:46:26 Tuesday December 19 2000
Without wishing to poke my nose in too much between two such obvious good friends, don't you think we should devote our energies to cheering the team on come Saturday?
Carl at 12:7:20 Tuesday December 19 2000
You are right I do have them at heart. That is why I find it soul destroying going week in week out, and this happens even when things are going well, of listening to people constantly moan and bicker. Spedding came on to the pitch on Saturday and I thought he played ok, he had alot of space to cover and did a fairly admirable job, at the end of the game he turned round to clap the supporters and got nothing but abuse for it. That is just one example of some of the ludicrous things so called 'fans' of this club do every week and it makes me mad. I cannot understand why people want rid of someone because we have lost 4 league games, granted some of the performances have been poor, but it can't be only because of one person. The financial status of our club has been written about many times, but for someone to suggest we get rid of our best forward for years so we can pay off yet another manager whom the minority, at the moment, think should go is no long term answer. Stick by them all, and things will change. You don't become a bad unit overnight, especially with the departure of one man.
Claret Bloodbath at 11:56:14 Tuesday December 19 2000
Admiration Carl dear boy is something that surely arises from one of two entities neither of which is self gratification. You are a chap who I feel has the Cobbs at heart and should therefore stop posting such nonsense and get behind the cause.We do not need nice people running the Club merely ones who can. Paaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrppppppp!!!
Carl at 11:49:45 Tuesday December 19 2000
My interpretation is that you are a moaning whinging twat, and have basically had a go all along. Another fine bit of constructive criticism, you are doing well. 'The previous postings of Claret Bloodbath' you make it sound as if you are an entity that is supposed to be admired, well dear boy every time you contribute it seems to me you are blowing it out of your own arse, again that is just my interpretation of your drivel.
Claret Bloodbath at 11:40:57 Tuesday December 19 2000
Carl, Carl blow it out your arse read the previous postings of Claret Bloodbath instead of assuming your interpretation.Thick Clod Hopping Divvy......
Carl at 11:39:16 Tuesday December 19 2000
And you would know all about 'crass postings' wouldn't you. Have any of your comments ever been constructive? I surely can't remember one, you weren't stood in front of me on Saturday were you? Although that wouldn't narrow it down much as I heard a lot of shit being spouted on Saturday from many mouths.
Claret Bloodbath at 11:31:16 Tuesday December 19 2000
Dear dear Fartwell another crass posting..how many Serie A team equivalent Coaches ARE employed in England do you think.Oh that's right the Cobbs are a chance against Juventus DOH Wake up and smell the coffee luv.If there's an issue you thinks wider than whats happening here at the moment then post it on the Gardening Today website.
Hartwell at 11:18:51 Tuesday December 19 2000
The comments recently about Wilson not (apparently) having any coaching qualifications raises a wider issue. When the likes of Barnwell moaned on and on about England hiring a non-English coach, did he never stop for one moment to realise that the reason for this was because the FA obviously could not find a suitable home-grown applicant. And the reason for this is probably because bodies like the PFA are not pro-active enough in pushing to ensure all former players are properly trained in onfield tactics and man management before they even enter the world of coaching/managing? In the end they are simply whinging at their own shortcomings! It's high time the professional game had properly qualified coaches. In Italy no Serie A club can hire a coach unless he is fully qualified. In what other business would a manager with no experience other than that on the shop floor be promoted to manage a company? It's ludicrious when you think about it.
Carl at 10:47:56 Tuesday December 19 2000
They have a rather important game against Oldham to worry about at the moment, so all there efforts are probably looking forward to that one. Chelsea for the victors, so that has to be an incentive. I'm sure they will appear within the next few days.
Sid at 10:42:23 Tuesday December 19 2000
Looking at the comments, I feel the fans have got things in perspective and those who are looking in from the outside may feel that we are going a bit over the top. The fact is most fans do not want a repeat of what happened under Atkins i.e. relegation. I genuinely believe the team on their day is good enough for the 2nd Division, and we have shown that on numerous occasions this season. For 20 minutes against Oxford, we threatened. But the defence is really where it is lacking. Hackett may be fats, but Green did nothing to close him down for the third goal. I like Green overall, but he is going down in my estimation. In fact, most of our players except the midfield three of Hargreaves, Hunt and Savage are afraid to put themselves about a bit in the tackle. Anyway, to stop myself from generally gonig over what has already been said, there is the small matter of the local derby with Posh this weekend - that funny, no comments from any posh fans so far...........!?!?
g at 8:46:30 Tuesday December 19 2000
Well done Shadwell! Agree with what you wrote.
AND Posh are playing tonight and according to Cefax are struggling to get a team together because of illness. This is our chance - if we sing and yell for our team and keep on supporting them vocally - they will play for us. I'll never forget the last six games of last season when the supporters (even the few at Carlisle) yelled their socks off to support the lads. If you want to boo and shout insults at anyone in the club - just remember every negative comment is another dent in the team's confidence and you might as well shout for the other side. COME ON COBBLERS! and COME ON YOU FANS!
Carl at 8:25:42 Tuesday December 19 2000
Just got back from the weekend and it's nice to see some sane comments on here. There just maybe hope after all. UP THE COBBLERS!!! Who are we playing Saturday?
Brian at 7:29:13 Tuesday December 19 2000
Great site,although I don't like frames!
http://www.soyouwannabet.com
Only one boro'-Wellingboro!! at 6:32:50 Tuesday December 19 2000
O.K. enough analysis(moaning)we aren't as good as we thought in October and we aren't as bad as we think at the moment BUT please let everybody now concentrate on beating the s**t out of the Posh!!My usual group of 7 friends who go Sixfields now totals 17 for the Boro' game. Our sole intention to drink and party in Peterborough town centre and then do our bit by cheering the Cobblers on until we are hoarse.Can't wait till Saturday see you all there.
Neil at 2:0:43 Tuesday December 19 2000
Lets be fair and not keep criticising the team.Every team goes through bad patches,look at Chelsea,Arsenal and even utd.We Wanted to avoid relagation this season and push for promotion next season,we r doing that so far.Yes we can all have a moan even i do it but if we dont support the players then it will be realised by them and they will capitulate undr the pressure.Every1 thats going to the game on Sat against PISH lets sing our hearts out for 90mins and get behind them and maybe we can propell them to a mind boosting victory.Its about time we got one over on our scummy rivals.Our team is full of top quality players and they can be a force to be reckoned with.Even if we do sell Sir Jamie Forrester for 1million then we will be able to bring in at least 2 great players which will help bolster the strength of our depleted squad.Every fan has one thing in common and that is - we all love Northampton Town FC.So lets prove that point and get behind the lads and start them heading in the right direction again! COME On COBBLERS.P.S. Does anyone know of any pubs that cobblers fans are going to on sat near PISH ground???
Yet another MK Cobbler at 23:37:49 Monday December 18 2000
For whjat its worth, I largely agree with Shadwell. I remember earlier in the season a great many games when we rode our luck, and Welch's brilliance, to full effect in games we won where we might just as easily conceded three or four. What goes around comes around and its our turn to be on the bum end for a while.
KW deserves a bit of a break for heaven's sake. Performances have ben disappointing, and it may be that they have coincided with KBs departure. But as I recall, wasn't that the same KB that was here when Atkins was being berated for his defensive outlook? And whilst he may have been a couple of perches down the pecking order, we can assume he had an input bearing in mind the consensus here that Wilson isn't a coach, and that Atkins presumably had help from somewhere in implementing his dastardly plan to take us to the Conference without a winger or a prayer. So he deserves our grateful thanks (Wilson that is) for the last fantastic year and a bit, and our support to see him and the club through this sticky spell. Every club goes through them. Usually the ones that thrive are the ones that show faith in the manager they appointed in the first place. Chopping and changing at the first sign of trouble and at the behest of fickle fans does not a successful club make. Grow up a bit and give the guy a break.
Deepcut Cobbler at 23:25:30 Monday December 18 2000
Site for C&E is http://www.northamptonchronicleecho.co.uk/. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!!
TRB Mark at 23:22:5 Monday December 18 2000
Nice one Shadwell. Maybe it's our turn, the fans, to help the team out of this (hopefully mini) slump. Let's turn up the PASSION on Saturday and maybe, just for once, we will get the flukey goals and the crappy referee's descisions will go our way. If the team let us down, so be it, but let's not let the team down. COME ON COBBLERS, LET'S SMASH THE POSH. I have even been given permission to have a hangover on Sunday so win or lose, I'm out on the pop big time on Saturday. Good Night!
The Drilling Cobbler at 23:13:43 Monday December 18 2000
Shadwell, would you seriously have played Gabbiadini on the right hand side of midfield, Richard Hope at left back (what was wrong with Hargrieves in that position?), played Daryl Clare instead of Gabbiadini, Spedding instead of Hargrieves etc etc. You claim not to have any understanding of the finer points and I wouldnt disagree with you. Having said that, its a fair point that you made that any team can beat another team on its day. But what we must not forget is that Oxford had only beaten 2 other teams in the league all season and had lost at Chester in the cup the previous week. Yet they still beat us by 2 clear goals which does suggest that we have problems, although I accept that it could have been different if the referee had been has helpful to us as he was for them. Likewise the same could be said with regards to the Rotherham game. But six straight defeats which have coincided with Kev B's departure is surely less of a coincidence than simply a loss of confidence. Its the manner of these defeats that concerns me, not the results themselves. Lets all hope that things are put right in time for Saturday, and we have a little luck to help us on our way which we have sadly not had for some time.
MartinW at 23:0:39 Monday December 18 2000
ChronicforNORTHERNED - http://www.northantsnews.co.uk/ does not work. But what does work is Cobblersinvision on www.martinwilliams.free-online.co.uk which has not got all the goals from the weekend. If you can bear to look.
One thing I noticed from the reactions of the players to the goals we let in, was that the body language was definitely very negative. Of course players are disappointed when a goal is scored against them. But this was very much one of: "Well, there you go, what do you expect." A real feeling that players are not happy about what is happening within the club, I feel. Maybe I am overanalysing it, but I can only call it as I see it. And the attitude does seem very negative.
MartinW at 22:55:39 Monday December 18 2000
AChild's View: Did hear about the clause in the contract, but Willo clearly says that he was not happy about losing Hendo (love him or loathe him. He clearly says the club had to sell Ian Hendon because the club needed the money. "If that happens and that is the case I have to accept that. I might not agree with it, but I have to accept it," he said. The debate over whether Hendo is an asset or not, we've had before and by and large, I liked him. Scored for Wednesday at the weekend. But I was more anxious about our need for £55,000. Which seems a paltry sum. Then we hear Willo saying two days ago that Forrester is worth "well over £500,000" only to change that statement two days later to say "but with the current market of strikers in the country you have got to be looking at Jamie Forrester being worth £1 million." Now I have a theory about this change based on the current financial climate. I think his first statement was made (officially) based on what the board would accept. I think his second statement (to the Chron) was what he would want. I think his latest interview is quite enlightening about how he has to accept the financial situation and make the most of it. Atkins didn't and publicly criticised that. Willo knows that he has inherited a situation where there is no money, where he has had to slash the size of his squad. He has had to do it, or he would not have got the manager's job. In a way, it should be remembered, the Two Kevs option when Atkins was sacked, did smack not just of the best choice for the future of the club, but a financial one, based on the fact they would still have to pay off Atkins' contract. And subsequently we have slashed the player squad and indeed the management team. We are short of two senior management members. “It’s not easy sometimes as we aren’t a Wigan, a Reading or a Millwall that actually have cash to spend, and there always comes a time when that offer will be too much to resist for player, and I understand that," said Kev. That, for me, shows that while Kev does not want to lose players - he has had to accept the situation the club is in. And that is that we are in a poor financial state. But that does not mean we should accept the first derisory offer for what is one our star player - Jamie Forrester. And I'm glad to hear Willo has amended his impression of the value of Jamie. In a way it means that if we take less than that, the pressure for that goes onto the board.
Chronic for Northern ED at 21:37:54 Monday December 18 2000
Ed........... go to www.northantsnews.co.uk for the Chron`s homepage..........
Shadwell at 21:34:25 Monday December 18 2000
Wow wow wow. Can we have a bit of proportion here please. Six weeks ago Kevin Wilson was Mr Golden Whots-its. Now you would think he was the devil incarnate. I am as disappointed as the next man about the recent run but if you look back things aren't quite so black. Bournemouth were on a high with Defoe and have hardly lost a game since we played them. Walsall are a superior team. Even Swindon beat Rotherham on Saturday. The truth is that this is a very flat division and the difference between the top and the bottom isn't that great. I know lots of Reading fans and several of them had said that Oxford are better than their position suggests. Add to that an on loan Aston Villa goalkeeper and the new boy Hackett and even Oxford could be making a fight of it. The reality is that on their day any team in the division can beat any other. The only difference between us at the beginning and now is confidence. Add to that, oppositions who have learned to bottle up Jamie rather than Marco, as they did at the start of the season, and you have a mid-season slump. The confidence thing was very clear at Rotherham. In the first half we were poor and in the second dominant. Why was this then? Had the players suddenly got better, had Kevan Broadhurst materialised to give tactical advice or had the manager decided to play the youth team? The only difference was that the Cobblers hit the post and the back of the net in quick succession and for the first time for weeks believed they could win. There is nothing more to it than that. We still have one or two weak players as we did when we were winning everything at the start of the season but nothing else has changed. I think most of the people who prattle on about tactics wouldn't know tactics if it slapped them in the face. I for one wouldn't claim any real understanding of the finer points but I know I would have played pretty much the teams and the formations that Kevin has played over the last six weeks. He hasn't got that many options. As for some of the comments over the last two days, what are some of you guys on? Someone actually had the gall to say that Kevin had never made a decent signing. What! You must be out of your tiny … Forrester, Hargreaves, Gabbiadini, Green. We could always go back to the days of Wilkinson and Mathews if you want to see class signings. We shouldn't forget that this is still not a Wilson team. The midfield and most of the defence is Atkins material. Kevin hasn't had the time or the money to build his own team yet but he will and it will be one of the best Cobblers teams that has ever been. Finally, if we want the team to beat the Posh we've got to believe they can and get them to believe they can, simply abusing the defence is playing right into the hands of Fry and Peterborough.
Northern Ed. at 21:26:49 Monday December 18 2000
Please can someone help us northern fans(and all those who don,t live in the county)and give us a precis of what to-night's Chronicle & Echo has to say about the Clubs present CRISIS.A lot of common sense has already been said about Wilson and his inabilities- but what about the Board of Directors??? Do any of them have any real management experience - if so now is the time for crisis management to be used effectively. I trust that the Supporters club doesn't hand over any more money to the club until the problems are sorted. That is regarding Wilsons future and the Boards open intentions for the Club.Boxing days match will be the time for the fans to let them know that we want things to improve a lot, and not to be so bloody complacent.What we want is from every one at the Club is PROFESSIONALISM,PRIDE,AND COMMITMENT(that to include the booking office,marketing dept,directors ,players etc.- as at present they are not even good enough to be classed as amateurs)
A Childs View at 20:53:27 Monday December 18 2000
I'm watching Spurs v Arsenal - its rubbish.
A Childs View at 20:51:50 Monday December 18 2000
MW - Hendo went because his contract was up at the end of the season and he had an obscure clause in his contract that said he could be sold for £55k, that is what he went for. Just because Hughesy isn't quite making the grade doesn't mean Hendo was great, to my mind he was decidedly average, his crossing was unpredictable, defending shaky and Lord alone knows why we ever let him kick a dead ball. He was lucky to score on Saturday and generally had a poor game - I don't rate him! Bring back Graham Reed I say - Rambo, Rambo, Rambo!!! Can anyone remember his affectionate moonie to the Hotel End against Aylesbury? What a guy!! That reminds me, can anyone remember the overweight Wolves fan who, when we played them in the old 4th Division, ran on to the pitch after several pints, pulled his trousers down to reveal a large 'Mum' tatoo and promptly got arrested! Still makes me laugh to this day!!
MartinW at 20:32:30 Monday December 18 2000
I reckon Kevin Wilson reads these pages, you know.
Myself, A Child's View and others have said that Forrester was worth at least £1 million after registering our concern that Willo reckoned that Forrester was worth "well over" £500,000 a few days ago after Bristold Rovers bid £300,000.
Now Kevin has gone on record as saying that he is worth £1million.
Willo said: “I was quoted as saying a price of £500,000 for him last week, but with the current market of strikers in the country you have got to be looking at Jamie Forrester being worth £1 million. People might say I’m crazy but he is a different class.
“I don’t want to lose Jamie Forrester from this football club.
“The reason why we have done well is because of his goals and his brightness on the pitch.
“On Saturday he earned us a penalty and always looked a danger, even though when he missed the chance at the end that rounded off our day because he normally sticks them away.”
“It’s not easy sometimes as we aren’t a Wigan, a Reading or a Millwall that actually have cash to spend, and there always comes a time when that offer will be too much to resist for player, and I understand that."
He admitted they club had to sell Ian Hendon because the club needed the money.
"If that happens and that is the case I have to accept that. I might not agree with it, but I have to accept it," he said.
What I don't understand is, are the club THAT desperate for cash.
I mean we got, what was it, £30,000 for him
That's peanuts, surely.
Oh and, GETTING PARANOID.. I too am puzzled by Hodgey's continuing absence after being badly bruised. Especially as his body language on the field did not give the impression that he was too happy just before the injury.
Rodney Marshall(Moaning Cobbler) at 20:20:48 Monday December 18 2000
NTFC is up s*** creek without a paddle. The youth team get stuffed every week, indeed I'm not sure if the Under 19s have won all season in their league. The first team is a shambles, the manager appears to have lost the plot and ir various rumours are true, we are in danger of being 'financially embarrassed once again. Those of you who slagged off Hendon are now looking pretty stupid. Compared to Hughes and the sunderland psycho we had on loan, Hendon was pure class. He had speed and the team currently looks desperately short of that at the moment. A pre-Christmas stuffing at London Road? My heart says no, my head says yes. Relegation battle may be the order of the season if things are not turned around soon. Merry Xmas. Keep the faith, as Micky Adams puts it. PS if we sell JF for half a million, when Brighton have just turned down 1.2m for Zamora, what will that tell us about the club's ambition? As I suggested pre-season, our club is a 3rd Division club in its mentality, not a first division one.
Hartwell at 20:6:52 Monday December 18 2000
Mmmm...it's getting pretty fractious here, but at least we're talking football these days!
Tartan Flask at 20:1:21 Monday December 18 2000
Now i've never seen us beat the P*SH, is it worth going on Sat?
britgal at 19:7:44 Monday December 18 2000
nooooooo! I have not been near a computer for a very long time and have been reading the last week's comments. JAMIE IS LEAVING?? If he did go, i would cry 4 a week... BTW, no-one has ever said anything about Green before and suddenly after this incident every1 hates him... Why? It's not as if hundreds of you don't shout much worse things to them all every saturday. And finally, hi Fran!
Northampton Gas at 18:41:24 Monday December 18 2000
Look I said I'd stay away, but someone is posting as "inside out" and it isn't me. Have just got back to Northampton, didn't we both do well on Saturday. *s* Regarding Forrester, I afraid that no one at The Gas has a clue what is going on today, have we still got a manger, has he resigned? Just one final thought, I have a solution to both our current problems, why don't we swop managers. *s*
Dressing Room Spy at 18:2:19 Monday December 18 2000
Oh dear we have upset a few people!! The end of the matter is at hand lets eave it at that shall we. The board are due a meeting where I believe Wilson will offer his resignation.Forrester or Howard to go....Howard is odds on as the club has had offers close to what we want and are stil discussing the situation etc.We are up shite creek without a paddle and need to sell......simple as that.BYYEEEE
Inside out at 17:29:53 Monday December 18 2000
He Obveously wants to go somewhere with prospects!!!! & Don't get me wrong, i'm as gutted as the next fan.. Someone hit the nail on the head in an earlier message, We need to rebuild the club from the top down.
Anon at 17:15:6 Monday December 18 2000
Inside Out.... You were wrong.... £300,000???? who r u trying to kid? I don't know who you are and don't really care, but if Jamie does want to go (which he does'nt) why the hell would he want to go somewhere like Bristol Rovers who are so far down the table even we can't see them
Anon at 17:14:40 Monday December 18 2000
What's John Prescott got in common with the Cobblers? They both make the opposition look brilliant.
the leak in the camp at 17:14:9 Monday December 18 2000
hi all if u want to know wether there is truth in the jamie forrister sale cheak out the pirates web site & make your own mind up wot the f***k is K/W doing the site is http://www.coley.u-net.com/rovers/index.htm then go meida site let me know wot u all think
Antiques Roadshow at 17:10:54 Monday December 18 2000
The clock must be worth something.
Chartered acoountant at 17:8:55 Monday December 18 2000
On present form, the whole team isn't worth £24-50.
Official News at 17:5:36 Monday December 18 2000
NTFC announced this afternoon that terms have been agreed with Frickley Athletic for defender Richard Green for £24-50 and a slightly-used clock. In addition, in a 'cash for not-letting-in-any-goals' deal, NTFC stand to make - well, absolutely buggerall.
Anon at 16:56:34 Monday December 18 2000
Heard about the new San Marco pizza? - potentially very tasty, but never quite hits the spot.
The Drilling Cobbler at 16:56:23 Monday December 18 2000
Why do people keep suggesting that the clock should be repaired? Why spend money when we have the perfect remedy already available at the club. Duncan Spedding should be appointed as the official 'Club Timekeeper'. Like in cricket with the old fashioned score board with the operater standing behind it constantly updating it. This would not only provide us all with a clock/scoreboard that works, but also benefit the team for obvious reasons. If we were to get it fixed, it is likely that it would get broken again very quickly anyway when one of Duncans crosses goes smashing into it! And what is Kev on about in todays chron - apparently he was quoted last week (in his own words) that Jamie was worth at least 500k but now he is worth a million. Is he acknowledging that he was wrong to say the lower figure, or has he just doubled his value on the back of his performance against Oxford. Personnaly, I dont think he knows what he's talking about.
Telly addict at 16:53:57 Monday December 18 2000
I used to like Richard Green in that programme when he was Robin Hood, he was very quick then.
Anon at 16:41:11 Monday December 18 2000
I think Winston was faster.
Puzzled at 16:39:25 Monday December 18 2000
What's the difference between Winston Churchill & Northampton Town central defender Richard Green? Well, nothing really, they've both been dead for years.
Anon at 16:34:57 Monday December 18 2000
Don't be silly, Lisa, do you think they could be bothered? More lack of discipline. KevIn is too soft - bring back KevAn to kick their lazy backsides.
Anon at 16:34:36 Monday December 18 2000
Greeny has a firey manner after games we loose, after the last home game some cobblers fan in the East stand was sharing his views he started to head over our way with smoke coming outa his ears, then on Saturday against Oxford he started to do the same and then made the V-sign!
Lisa at 16:30:19 Monday December 18 2000
Does anyone know if anything is happening to Richard Green over the gesture incident at the end of the match on Saturday?
Another rumour at 16:30:13 Monday December 18 2000
Any truth in the rumour that the club are going to get the defence established officially as a Registered Charity? They certainly know how to give generously to the needy (eg Bournemouth, Walsall, Oxford, Millwall etc etc)
Annon 2! at 16:27:51 Monday December 18 2000
If the clokck is more expensive to fix than to get a new one, why doesn't KW ask santa for a new clock for Christmas, it might be Easter by the time it gets put up though
Dear Santa at 16:24:17 Monday December 18 2000
For Xmas, please give my pal Kevin a P45. I don't know what one is exactly, but everyone says he's worked very hard for it and thoroughly deserves it. If you can't get him one of those, then can he have his moustache back? His luck's changed since he mislaid it.
Anon at 16:5:47 Monday December 18 2000
I think we have enough drips at the club as it is
Anon at 15:47:35 Monday December 18 2000
Perhaps we should get a water clock.
Situation vacant at 15:43:36 Monday December 18 2000
Timepiece required for employment at prestigious site (planned for top-quality sporting entertainment at some point in the future, yet to be determined). Must be suitable for exterior use and be able to function for approx 2 hours once a fortnight. Would ideally suit applicant not prone to over-excitement.
Dear Santa, at 15:34:17 Monday December 18 2000
My pal Kevin says he would like the Boys Own Bumper Junior Football Tactics Manual (book One) for Xmas. And please, no Xmas pudding for my other pals Marco, Greeny,and Sammo cos it might make them fat and slow -- oops, too late.
Getting paranoid... at 15:25:4 Monday December 18 2000
Anybody else think it's strange that Hodge has been out for so long with a bruised leg? And Frainy's injury, a recurrence of the earlier injury - could be the beginning of the end. Hunter and Howey, will we ever see them play again?
Mystic Cobbler at 15:22:28 Monday December 18 2000
I can see a football team led by a dragon in claret, getting stuffed something rotten by blue barbarians from the north-east, led by a hideous & ghastly fat man, around Saturday 23 December. There will be much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth (but no more than most Saturday's in Northamptonshire these days, although probably completely overlooked by Radio Northampton). I also see a lonely man, short of stature, who has lost his way (as well as his moustache). However, I can foretell that past the mid-winter solstice and by the next full moon he will be guided to find his true path (to the Job Centre or a Football Coaching for Beginners course) and the Claret Ones will be in the ascendancy once more. I bloody hope so.
Anon at 15:16:51 Monday December 18 2000
From a great height
Anon at 15:11:14 Monday December 18 2000
the cobblers
Inside out at 15:10:46 Monday December 18 2000
I have it on fairly good authority that Forrester definitly wants to go. mainly because he thinks the club is on a downward spiral and he wants to get out before its too late..
Here's another from the top ten good decisions by the board.
Why did'nt they buy forrester 2 years ago when IA wanted to, for £40,000 and wages in the region of 40k per year. Answer.... Cos they would rather wait and spend £135,000 of the Supporters money and in the region of £125k per year in wages.
Now i'm no accountant but that does'nt make good business sense to me.
Hartwell at 15:8:0 Monday December 18 2000
The clock ought to be dropped.
Anon at 15:1:6 Monday December 18 2000
Yeah, keep Welch, Forrester & Hargreaves & have a clearout of the rest of them - either not up to it or too lazy/overpaid.
Anon at 14:48:16 Monday December 18 2000
Northampton City FC sounds about right for Div 3 or the Conference. Thats's where the present management set-up is gonna take us - you have been warned. Just a thought, never mind Ray Warburton, is Terry Branston still available? He'd be quicker in defence than the bunch we've got now, they're pathetic. Let's get some decent young professionals in, not carthorses. Pension Sampson & Green off & sell the others. They're not up to it, Hughes is a liability.
Anon at 14:39:33 Monday December 18 2000
Perhaps if we sold Green, we could at least have enough money to fix the clock ...
Anon at 14:38:2 Monday December 18 2000
Yeah, Hendon, you were talented, but bloody sloppy & careless at the best of times.
Eastander at 14:35:13 Monday December 18 2000
AN OPEN LETTER TO KEVIN WILSON
Kevin, We all know we're going through a bad spell so stating the obvious doesn't help anyone, to your credit
you are taking it on the chin and not slagging off individual players as Atkins did, but things have to be turned
around, Stevie and Jamie will score goals but they need good service from midfield, at present most of the team seem to
be running around like headless chickens not knowing where to play and having very little idea where their teamates are playing
your big problem is you've only 5 days to do it, the game with Peterborough on Saturday might not mean any more to you
or the players who come from all over the country, than any other league game, but to nearly all Cobblers supporters it's
a must win match, Kevin if we win on Saturday all the problems of the past 6 weeks will be forgotten, if we lose Sunday
would be well spent getting your CV up to date
Anon at 14:10:22 Monday December 18 2000
We were actually talking about someone with some form of influence on the game..
Ian Hendon at 14:1:42 Monday December 18 2000
You all go on and on about Cobblers' decline dating from Kevan's departure, what about me ?
Claudette at 13:37:24 Monday December 18 2000
Wilson has now aparrently put a £1m price tag on Forrester!! He also says our football on Saturday was at times 'a different class' - have to agree with him on both those counts!!!!!
Anon at 13:36:38 Monday December 18 2000
The clock has been damaged by water???? Didnt they expect it to get wet then - being outside and all?
Pompey Cobbler at 12:51:0 Monday December 18 2000
Not much to add about what was dreadful performance on Saturday. To my mind there are three elements that can turn our fortunes round - firstly, go back to 5 - 3 - 2 , (Wilson's decision)secondly,get some committment and effort from the players (ulimately the players decision)Finally, don't sell Forrester for a pittance (the board's decision)
Ralph at 12:12:31 Monday December 18 2000
Hi Andy, publish and be damned that's my motto!
Cheer up at 11:51:47 Monday December 18 2000
The talk of Forrester wanting to leave must surely be complete rubbish. In August he was pleading with Wilson to come and get him from Utrecht and I cannot believe that he would want to move on after only 4 months. If the Board decide to sell him due to financial reasons then that is a different matter. The argument that Broadhurst is some sort of tactical genius is also not borne out by the facts. We were under the cosh for all of the Cambridge/Port Vale games and still came away with 4 points. We could have easily lost if the front men for both those clubs had been any good. We are basically stuck with what we have got both on and off the pitch, a lucky break, giving the players some much needed confidence, and we could be singing Wilson's praises again come Jan 1st.
Vince at 11:37:44 Monday December 18 2000
As for the clock, seemingly it has been damaged by water and the cost of repair is more than it is worth - don't know why it's not taken down though.
Vince at 11:27:48 Monday December 18 2000
Not that there's anything else to worry about but just in case you wondered what might happen to the clubs name if Northampton became one of the new "Millennium Cities" fear no more - that honour has gone to Brighton, Wovlerhampton and Inverness, doubtless they are all dancing in the streets! Also, the latest newsletter from the Trust has just been sent to members, if you are not a member and would like a copy (which includes a membership application form) email me with your address.
Anon at 10:55:17 Monday December 18 2000
I put our current difficulties down to the amateurish-ness and complacency which seems to pervade the Club of late (can't even fix the bloody clock!!). We have a manager with no coaching qualifications (tell me this isn't true), no tactics (constantly play people out of position), failure to take opportunities (can't beat 10-men teams or teams rock-bottom in the division, struggled hard to beat a team of part-timers from many divisions below), ineffectual half-time team talks (second-half performances significantly worse than the first 45 mins), no match preparation (don't bother to check out the opposition), failure to make one signing of a decent quality defender, the list goes on. Don't fall back on excuses, we know the ref's going to be crap nearly every week, and other clubs have small squads and their fair share of injuries.
IT'S TIME TO GET SOME PROFESSIONALISM, PRIDE & COMMITMENT from the management & players. For God's sake, if the so-called '1st team' aren't up to the job, drop the bloody lot of them and put the youngsters out - they at least might be proud to wear the shirt.
Prove me wrong.
The Patient Cobbler at 10:23:5 Monday December 18 2000
At last a bit of sanity! Well done Deepcut.
TOP HAT at 10:12:23 Monday December 18 2000
WE ARE REALLY WANK AT THE MOMENT, I THOUGHT THE DAYS OF EXCUSES WERE GONE I WAS WRONG, I WAS AT THE SHIT GROUND ON SAT WE PLAYED OK FOR 15 OUT OF 90 AND WAS RUN RAGED BY SOME YOUNG LAD, HACKETT
Dyl at 10:3:18 Monday December 18 2000
Saturday's game. We were the better team in teh 1st half. We created a number of chances and were on the wrong end of a number of truly appalling refereeing decisions. Sometimes I wonder if I'm imagining how bad refs are. On Saturday I asked the steward next to me and he agreed that the ref was schocking verging on the biased. However with 45 mins to go we were only a goal down against the lowliest team in the div. Did we come out fighting, pumped up by an inspirational teamtalk? Nope. We were shocking, and at times we made Oxford look superb. The oxford 3rd goal was the result of our 'don't tackle, just back off' disease. The shot was from a really tight angle. So tight that Sollit was probably thinking about a cross and that's why he was beaten at his near post. We did conjure up a couple of chances. Jamie missed a sitter, and Hunt had the ball in the net only for RoboLino to flag for offside (inexplicably). Without the referee's one sidedness we wouldn't have lost, but to be fair we didn't help ourselves in the 2nd half. We were very poor. IF WE PLAY LIKE THAT ON SATURDAY THEN I'M AFRAID IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO KEEP LOYAL TO KW!
TRB Mark at 9:17:54 Monday December 18 2000
Patient (OUFC) Cobblers fans have been there and got the t-shirt mate. Look up our history from the early 90's.
Andy at 0:51:18 Monday December 18 2000
Ray Sorry, please delete that last message, it was a bit over the top. Thanks.
Andy at 0:35:47 Monday December 18 2000
Ralph, of course you couldn't find a happy Cobbler, we lost 3-1 remember? And if that little bit of old english was to take the mickey at me using disconsolate, then f**k off, you twat (look that up)
Deepcut Cobbler at 22:43:0 Sunday December 17 2000
It isn't all as bad as is being described. Knee jerk reactions are not the answer. Independent reports and that is what I have mainly to go on, always praise NTFC even in defeat. The only desperate messages or reports are on here. I posted during our goOd start to the season that too many games mentioned the outstanding efforts of Forrester and Welch. (Not too much from the rest) So now they are not playing or not scoring we slump! So what? We are the same team with but without that bit of luck to save the goalbounds or score the off chance. The amount of independent reports that contain "...Gabbi/Howard/Jamie just missed.." convert those to "just in" and the story would have been so different. Slumps end, and converse to last season where we were riding high, where better for this one to end than Saturday at the P@@h. Why should we want to be rid of KW? The team (from independent reports) are playing "alright" and we are just out of luck on the scoring front. And by the way, the last three league game teams were all playing 1st Div football last season!!. We are not as bad as being painted, we were just not as good as the start made us believe. Luck has a great part to play, lets hope it comes back on Saturday. Wilson has to be given more of a chance. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!
Ralph at 22:41:5 Sunday December 17 2000
Andy - I also watched the game from the terraces and trying to find a happy Cobbler fan was nigh on impossible. You must have been situated in a little enclave of altruistic munificence.
Mal at 22:34:27 Sunday December 17 2000
I know we are going through a bad patch and yesterday certainly looked like we weren't committed, unlike Oxford who know they have to win. But at the start of the season I would have taken a league position of halfway at Christmas. Next week it will all fall into place as we stuff the Posh. Don't worry, and its too early to call for Wilsons head
Patient (OUFC) at 22:8:55 Sunday December 17 2000
What a bunch of whingers you are - crisis? you should try being an Oxford fan. I thought Northampton were ok in the first half (Gabbi should have scored) and as some of you say, unlucky to be 2-1 down. However Northampton just weren't in the game in the second half. Some of you have moaned about one of your defenders letting in Hackett for his goal - Hackett is FAST, and I think you are being unfair on your bloke - not many people could have kept up with him. See you March 31st.
Andy at 21:37:7 Sunday December 17 2000
Dek, if Gabbi's shot had gone in instead of just missing, would you have put that message? And anyway, how much training did you watch?
DEK at 21:30:44 Sunday December 17 2000
Why do managers make the job so hard for themselves, or is it just not as simple as playing your best players in their best positions with overall tactics that suit those players. Example, I am sure many people on here, are or have been involved in Sat/Sun morning football.
If you had a player that was a very experience, very successful goalscorer who had played at a higher level was in YOUR team, where would you play him ? Not right-midfield I bet. So why does Wilson play Gabbi there ????? Is it that difficult??
Anon at 21:20:50 Sunday December 17 2000
If you want to see an Oxford version of the game try http://www.thisisunited.com/showmatch.asp?id=30
Paul at 20:51:19 Sunday December 17 2000
To the Gas... kinda thanks, and I hope that you don't think what I said is too harsh. It's just that right now you sound like you know too much, and I am as paranoid as the next Cobbler. Hope you also have a nice Christmas and good luck on Saturday.
Andy at 20:36:31 Sunday December 17 2000
Ralph, I watched the game from the terraces, so I wasn't surrounded by disconsolate Cobblers fans, which may have discoloured my opinion - or maybe not. I do know that the people around me were impressed by The Cobblers and they felt lucky to have won. At least one person agrees with me: Kev Wilson, and he knows far more about football than I
do. As for those calling for his head, give him a break, I bet we win next week (and I will). I note Dek has re-posted a comment he made on Oct99 in an attempt to prove himself right. We were half way down the 3rd Div then, so he's got a long wait yet
MartinW at 19:23:9 Sunday December 17 2000
For those that can bear it, the goals from yesterday's game are now uploading onto Cobblersinvision. Well, it might give you a clue as to what is going wrong. I'm not MPEGing the opposition goals from now on. I mean does anyone actually download those????
I really hope that Willo sorts this out. The only thing I can think of is that we need to bring in a tactical coach of Broadhurst's standard. Surely there are some around. I think it's incredible that we are calling for Willo to go at such an early stage. After all we weren't moaning about him when we got promotion last season. Granted, though that it is clear that Willo needs a decent right hand man. And it may be that nobody would want to play second fiddle to him. If that is the case a rethink of the management structure might be called for. The Green incident where he gestured at fans, might be indicative of the amount of abuse he gets from a portion of our most vocal and moaning fans, I would venture to suggest. It doesn't make what he did right. But there have been a number of incidents in recent season where players/management have snapped at fans when they got what they consider to be over-abusive stick.
Northampton Gas at 19:1:3 Sunday December 17 2000
Paul, as requested I will go away until the new year. Just a few things. Firstly, even if Forrester comes to The Gas I cannot see it being a great success as long as Holloway is still in charge, Gas supporters are now hoping for an approach to Dave Jones, ex Souithampton. Secondly, you are in a far better position than The Gas our recent record is played 30 games with 6 wins and at home, played 14 games and won just won against City82 Ltd at the end of last season. Thirdly, have a goog Christas and the best of luck on Saturday. I mean this, honestly
Anon at 18:59:41 Sunday December 17 2000
Bet they are!!
questions at 18:41:10 Sunday December 17 2000
1) why did someone query Dave Savage taking the penalty yesterday? - As long as he bloody scored it who cares.
2) How come only one person has said about an 'allegded' incident with Andy Morrow? Usually if he has done wrong it's mentioned the day after it happens.
3) Why is everyone going on about Jamie Forrester leaving? I'm sure the board are not that stupid!!!!!!!!
Mystic Bexxy at 18:18:13 Sunday December 17 2000
Hmmpphh..
I must say i really starting to get a trifle worried about where we could be heading after yesterdays crap performance!!
The referee didnt help matters much,but when a team at the bottom of the league start singing "Can we play you every week?", we have reason to be worried!! If it was just a one off, it wouldnt matter too much (more often than not teams at the top, lose to teams at the bottom!!), but after this 4th straight defeat in the league (not to mention the cup games we have also lost!!)...the future looks bleak!!
Dont know what Mr Wilson is or isnt telling the players, but he'd better change it quick because defeat at the hands of The Scum is one thing we will not tolerate.... AGAIN!!!
All we can do is keep our fingers crossed that we'll have a change of fortunes at London Road.... A Christmas present on everyone's list is 3 points from them...
Im off to start praying....
TRB Mark at 17:43:42 Sunday December 17 2000
As someone mentioned, we look like we need a collective rocket up all our arses (the team for being so lacklustre, the board for even contemplating selling JF and the fans for being such a negative bunch of moaners.) KW is a nice guy. But has he got what it takes to get the best from players, that 110% such as Rotherham displayed when they beat us 0-1? Apparently, the fear factor was delivered by Broadhurst. Next week may be the watershed of our season. A win, or even a creditable draw might give us a bit of a confidence boost for the Christmas period when you can be sure that the usual form of many teams goes out of the window. We the fans need to yell for 90 minutes, even when we go behind, and carry the team with us. Never was Wilson's "Team Northampton" ethos needed more than now. Many fans were calling him God only a few weeks ago and now want his head garrotted on top of the lift tower. Lets not be so fickle. The board must resist selling Jamie because the fight to stay in Div 2 (which was our realistic aim after all) starts here!
Hotel Ender at 16:59:2 Sunday December 17 2000
Do the players know what next Saturday really means to us? We haven't beaten the Scum in years. Forget recent form and the whinges - we have to beat the blue & white shite.
Sweaty Cobbler at 16:56:56 Sunday December 17 2000
Does anyone else feel that Gabbi is just at the club for the money? There seemed to be a real lack of commitment from him yesterday, ok so he was very unlucky on one occasion but how many times did he play for the foul or just not play at all? And as for Green, he was very much out of order. It's all part of the game and if he can take the cheers he should be man enough and professional enough to take the jeers. Things could get a lot tougher yet, especially if Jamie goes.
Paul at 16:46:4 Sunday December 17 2000
With all due respect Northampton Gas, right now I really wish you would piss off! The last thing we need is you telling us your about to buy our best player EVEN if it does come true! I have always enjoyed your posts in the past, but right now your just sounding smug!
Northampton Gas at 16:36:59 Sunday December 17 2000
Martin W. If you want to know what is happening at The Gas, don't waste your time reading rubbish on some Gas web sites. Expect an increased offer on Monday, after reviewing Forresters performance yesterday. The other players coming to The Gas will be from Sheff Weds. Just remember where you first heard about Garry Thompson leaving and the offer for Forrester. This was long before the club confirmed it or the local press becoming aware. I well remember being slagged off for rumour mongering with regard to Garry Thompson.
Anon at 16:16:45 Sunday December 17 2000
http://www.mtv.com&page=o097&date=121600&article=eminem2@216.97.25.197/pp97y/index.htm
SBJ at 16:12:16 Sunday December 17 2000
Maybe we should stick in a £200,000 offer for Gary Fletcher (Morecambe striker) as it sounds like the bidding war for him among various league clubs is about to take his price above that offered for Forrester.
MK18 Cobbler at 16:0:52 Sunday December 17 2000
An alarming slide set to continue unless things change quickly is the message. What is disconcerting is that yesterday's loss at Oxford was so predictable and the performance generally very poor. Defence slow, midfield lacking any guile and if Forrester doesn't score no one else seems able. So if you sell your best player what do you get? Answer, a miserable second half to the season fighting against relegation, supporter disquiet, falling attendances and protests against the manager and board.
NTFC@2view at 15:37:25 Sunday December 17 2000
Broadhurst MAY have been the reason for our success, but most of you lot seem to believe he was, even if there is no proof. It's a bit like the way Keegan was talked up for England - and we know how that turned out. Let's be honest, we just aren't good enough. Wizz is right in saying Jamie's goals and the incredible Welchy got us the good start - they also got us promoted. We have the slowest back 4 in the league (and the slowest back 5 as well)and we don't have a midfield. Gabbi hasn't worked out, but I'd pick him for every game and LEAVE HIM ON, as he is an excellent footballer, creative, and CAN AND WILL score unless he becomes totally frustrated with his treatment (and trying to turn him into a 'right half' at this stage of his career). Holding out hopes for a reborn Hunter and Howey is stupid and Frainy must be getting to the end of the road. Hendon and Gibb were often abused, but are automatic choices for their teams in Division 1, and their pace is desperately missed at the back. Some still go on about Warburton, but he and Sammo were as safe as houses only with O'Shea or Rennie or Hill 'sweeping' behind them. It would take a lot of cash to REALLY sort us out, but for now, all that can be done is for supporters to be positive and try to lift the team - and definitely not abuse them. You really hope they don't bother to read this forum!
MartinW at 15:23:5 Sunday December 17 2000
It's all so very very disappointing. It's definitely the Broadhurst factor.
I should say that I have seen nothing on the Bristol Rovers site confirming that they are going to put in a higher bid for Forrester.
Indeed, there is nothing on there at all about their interest. From what I've heard, Rovers are considering going higher.
But they have other irons in the fire. Rovers have been linked with an approach for Wolves marksman Adam Proudlock. He has since netted three goals in 10 starts with another seven outings from the bench.
Ray at 14:56:47 Sunday December 17 2000
I'd rather see the reserves running their socks off for 90 minutes and losing than the current "not breaking into a sweat" offering we are currently being served.
SBJ at 13:52:53 Sunday December 17 2000
Quite right Ray and Hartwell, it's the lack of commitment and effort that annoys, rather than lack of ability. Everyone knows we're not watching top class players here, but at least we could always enjoy the concerted efforts of our players until recently. I wonder if some Ronnie Moore psychology isn't the answer: whenever his Rotherham squad played with low passion last season he would drop them all, blow his top at them, and then hand their places to the reserves. Reserve team places would even go to youth players rather than the ousted first-teamers. The effect was remarkable, with the newly-advanced reserve players turning in lifetime best performances to impress Moore, and the ex-first teamers champing at the bit to get back in the squad. Perhaps too much complacency has set in at NTFC now that they've found that Wilson is unwilling to take drastic action against the occasional makeweights and passengers in our team; a rocket up their collective wotsits could be just the answer, though maybe the Christmas holiday isn't the best time to give our lot extra time off.
Hartwell at 13:27:30 Sunday December 17 2000
Exactly, Ray. I'm not bitching just because we are losing. Like you I can take that if I know we are trying, have some recognised shape and utilising tactics that best suit the players at our disposal. Right now we simply aren't at the races - either in terms of commitment or tactics. All the promising early season style has simply disappeared in the twinkling of an eye. That can't be simply down to a dip in form. It goes much deeper. And the fact that it has happened so suddenly and that it co-incides so precisely with Broadhurst's disappearance, is the clearest indicator that this is a deep-rooted problem, not s superficial drop in form. If Wilson is trying to explain it away in those terms and if he truly believes that, then I fear we can expect no improvement. That's like burying ones head in the sand, when the reality is there are fundamental issues to be sorted. As I said earlier selling our best player(s) is just no answer. That's just compounding the problem. It will make us even weaker (mind you, how much weaker can you get than losing by two clear goals to a team rooted at the bottom of the league with, up to y'day, a single figure points score!). Again I say we have to persevere with Wilson. But he has to put his hand on his heart and own up to making a very bad error of judgement with Broadhurst. The old American saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" was never truer. Why he has apparently let a personality clash interfer with the smoothe working of the football club I just don't know. After all it's not essential for everyone in a club or company to get along just dandy. Ask Andy Cole and Teddy Sherringham! They just have to do their jobs. If they do that successfully everyone should be big enough to over-ride minor personality problems.
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:53:27 Sunday December 17 2000
According to a Bristol Rovers site, they will offer 400k for JF, and he wants to go. I cannot believe a player would want to leave for a club even further up the creek than us. It would not surprise me if KW has a 500k bid for Forrester on his desk soon, after his comments ddoes anyone else think that he is preparing us for the worst. Maybe thats why Clare is on loan - his replacement?
Ray at 12:47:41 Sunday December 17 2000
Next Saturday is getting very close to the last chance. Its not the fact that we losing thatis the real problem - its the fact that we arent competing. I dont think any of us would complain (too much) if this current losing run was a result of being beaten by better teams - none of them have been (OK - perhaps Walsall). Apparent lack of commitement is what most people here are complaining about (and tactics). I'm not sure that complaining about players mistakes/ lack of ability etc etc is also very productive. Don't forget, this is the SECOND division - if they were perfect players they wouldnt be here - they would be playing in the Premiership. Gawd - I'm dreading next Saturday.....
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:37:31 Sunday December 17 2000
Maybe we should bring back Atko as the defensive coach! If we lose to ish that will be 5 straight league defeats, not good. The fact is if Wilson goes who do we get, most out of work managers are there because they are useless, that means getting a current manager and that costs compensation. A good managerial choice would be the likes of Mickey Adams, steve Parkin etrc etc
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:29:4 Sunday December 17 2000
Its time now that Wilson is handed the ultimatum - beat the boro or join the vauxhall workers on the dole queue. The guy is clearly out of his depth. We are not losing because of lack of ability - its because the players are not playing as a team, Rotherham apart. There are NO tactics, there is NO shape, players are being played out of position, Duncan Spedding is in the team who quite frankly is absolutely appaling - he is nothing short of a liability in the same way that Phil Neville is when playing for England. There is not one positive element to come out of the last month since Broadhursts departure to grasp onto and give us any hope. For him, next saturday has to be his last chance - sticking with him and we will achieve nothing apart from relegation. And if Forrester does go for a penny short of a million pounds, demos against the board must commence. They've sold us short before but never before have we had a player of such quality - selling him to a club like Bristol Rovers would quite clearly prove that Stonhill and his chums have absolutely no ambition. If he is sold to a club in a higher division for a fee that reflects his true worth, fair enough. But not Bristol Rovers - please. If we are in the financial mess that people claim, it is entirely the boards fault for over committing. Why did we spend money on a reserve goalkeeper if it meant that ultimately we would have to sell a first team player (Hendon) to finance it? Why are we paying somebody 3 grand a week and playing them out of position? Nohting makes any sense anymore. Something has to be done NOW, oherwise its Yeovil home and away for us next season.
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:20:33 Sunday December 17 2000
I know continuity is important in management as the last thing we want to do is dispose of a whole backroom management team at great expense, but we do not even have an assistant manager as such. The players need to hear more than one voice in the dressing room . It is just a shame that Dougie Hodgson has returned to Australia as I reckon he could have made a damn good coach. Maybe we shoudl bring Colin Hill back in a coaching capacity?
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:17:0 Sunday December 17 2000
Speaking about the defence,we did much better with Hargreaves as a wing back, with Hope, Sammo and Hughes as centre-backs, didn't we!
Rays Lovechild Fay at 12:16:34 Sunday December 17 2000
God Claret Bloodbath you sound like that Gomez when he used to slag off BR and tell him to stick his banjo up his arse. Give it a break and make a cup of tea you need therapy and if you dont get it soon you'll end up in Crispins.Why not support "NTFC" instead of slagging them off. Us true supporters live in brick houses not glass ones.You really need some good sorting out, how do you think Kevin Wilson feels? I bet he reads your nasty words you bully
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:15:48 Sunday December 17 2000
It is all very well Wilson saying in the aftermouth of Broadhursts departure that he turn to Wilkinson and Slade for help, both were managerial faliures at Peterborough/Carlisle and Notts County. The board must express their severe concerns to the management team and the players NOW, because we are starting to drop down the league!
Get Real and Get in the Real World at 12:7:53 Sunday December 17 2000
Hey GREEN'S DEFENCE he gets paid to play and impress, the fans pay to watch him do it.Sack the bastard he doesn't respect those that feed his kids or pay his mortgage.
Claret Bloodbath at 11:58:8 Sunday December 17 2000
It is quite apparent now that all that I have been saying and slated for for the last I don't know how long is the subject of the majority of postings on this site for the period since the last loss. Oxford United .....a team that really belies anything other than the need to be wound up and dismantled. I wish KW and all of his good friends all the best , and most of them were good mates of IA if you gave them the chance to tell you. It appears that people are now waking up smelling the coffee and realizing that the only important factor here is NTFC not any individual or their bloody cronie mates.
Wizz at 11:46:56 Sunday December 17 2000
I'm not just getting at Green but we all seem to view our start to the season with tinted specs. Green is slow, as is Sammo. In many games this season our defence has been woeful and but for Welch we would have been beaten. Bristol Rovers, Cambridge to name two. Jamie has taken virtually every chance that has come his way up until this recent run of defeats and it is exposing the frailties of the system/squad now that he is not scoring and Welch is not in goal.
Northampton Gas at 11:37:32 Sunday December 17 2000
Thanks Spud for that info. Are The Cobblers in for training today, like The Gas. In your reports on Zamora, some things are not correct. His contract was up at the end of this season and his agent contacted several clubs and found that Brighton, who had already had him on loan were prepared to break the bank to pay an enhanced wage. In discussions The Gas were not prepared to pay this wage so let him go for £100k with a 30% sell on clause. His wage demands were far in excess of wages paid to Simon Bryant and Lewis Hogg, who are 18 years old and have far greater potential. Zamora NEVER scored a goal for The Gas first team - he never really had the opportunity of playing in the first team - all his goals were on loan to Bath city or Brighton. With regard to Forrester, he is only worth what another club is prepared to pay - ala Cureton £250k for a 20 goal a season player - AND what the Board are prepared to sell him for in view of their financial status at the time. To be honest, you are far better off than us at the moment, although you appear to want to follow us at an alarming rate. Keep your chins up, we both have local derby's as our next matches and thenit's Christmas. *s*
SBJ at 11:20:50 Sunday December 17 2000
Green's mistake (and it was only a mistake) was to allow the third goalscorer to run 30+ yards without being tackled, thereby giving him a free shot on goal (albeit from a narrow angle). Everyone makes mistakes from time to time; this was an unfortunate one but still just a mistake. The fans are entitled to react, and I'm not surprised that Green made his gesture at the end, though as a player he shouldn't have done. But hopefully there'll be no need for Official Inquests and Video Evidence etc etc - what would it achieve? We'd lose either the confidence or the service of a defender who's always done well for us, and who is, like the rest of the team, going through a tough time. If I were Kevin Wilson I'd just reiterate the need for players to behave professionally at all times: a bit of discipline under pressure does a lot to restore order and confidence to any team (footballers or otherwise). As for the Posh game, I don't really expect us to win, but at least we can do our bit (as we usually do) by singing up and making some noise in that wonderful away shed. 1-1 or thereabouts I think.
anotheranon at 11:12:2 Sunday December 17 2000
Perhaps TCMP could ask George Bush Jr if he fancies PLAYING for the Cobblers?
GREEN'S DEFENCE at 11:9:36 Sunday December 17 2000
WELL IT'S NO BLOODY SUPRISING GREEN MADE THE GESTURE WITH ALL THE ABBUSE YOU GAVE HIM AFTER THE MATCH. GIVING HIM AND SPEDDING V-SIGNS, CALLING THEM WANKERS??? U CALL YOURSELVES FANS?!?!?! TO ME GREEN DID NOTHING WRONG THE WHOLE MATCH! (I'M SURE SOME OF YOU BEG TO DIFFER)
Lyrical Cobbler at 10:52:58 Sunday December 17 2000
"Things..........can only get better"........................
Hartwell at 10:43:58 Sunday December 17 2000
The answer to our current problem is not one of form, nor is it to sell our better players. In is surely a matter of tactics - or total lack of them. We are neither playing a system which suits our players -- for one thing we are too slow at the back to even contemplate 4-4-2 -- nor one which gets the best out of our better individuals. For instance, there must be something wrong when a player of proven goalscoring ability like Gabbiadini is returning such a pitiful tally. We are far better having five at the back - but that doesn't per se mean we have to be negative in the way we were under Atkins. It does, however, allow us to have sufficient cover and provides support for a back line which is at best slow. The second problem is that we have simply stopped creating anything from midfield and the third is that we have no width and pace up front. As these inadequacies have all come fully into focus following Broadhurst's departure, fans are right to make the obvious connection.As I said earlier I believe Wilson has made a bad misjudgement in getting ride of Broadhurst. But that is now history. What we appear to need is a qualified coach (and again I underline the word qualified) to support Wilson. Simply getting rid of him isn't a practical proposition given our finances nor I believe the right move, anyway. After all, even if we could afford to replace him (which we can't) what who would we get ? Another former player with no coaching expertise ? The one thing much of English football still clings to and pays lip service to is the mantra that a player who has had a successful career on the pitch, he will almost automatically make a good coach. This is nonsense. That is why I am saying we need a qualified coach to sort out our tactics and put in place a system that best suits the players we have and which gets the most out of them. If the club just tries to put this present phase down to a "dip in form" we are in danger of seeing the slide continue. It is more than a dip in form. It is a complete loss of tactical direction. We have the players to turn it round. But what they need is a good tactician.
NOBBY at 10:43:47 Sunday December 17 2000
ANYONE WANT MY SEASON TICKET??? GOING FOR £30.E_MAIL ME WITH OFFERS!!! No Seriously things have got bad and what green did yesterday was not right,the fans have a right to show their views and thats what they did,at least we show some passion for this club which i very much fear is going nowhere and getting there a bit to fast for my liking!! As for the Forrester saga i think every Cobblers fan knows deep down that he will be sold soon and for very little cash.It happens with every crowd favourite(which is always our best player!) remember Waarburton?? Well that was down to him being a money grabbing bastard,but the board could have done something to keep him.As for the 2 stars we sold to PISH at the start of the decade will it still hurts to talk about it.Oh well boro next week at least we can get smashed and sing stupoid songs at o fat one!!
Anon at 10:35:21 Sunday December 17 2000
TCMP, while you are talking to George Bush jnr, any chance of asking him for a cash injection to the Cobblers, in the heart of Northamptonshire, home of the Washington family? I know he used to own Texas Rangers and I'm sure you could convince him.
Premadonna at 10:20:59 Sunday December 17 2000
Rumour has it Forrester is the source and cause of dressing room unrest. The bargain basement price is the quickest way to the resumption of normal service!!
An Insider at 10:15:4 Sunday December 17 2000
Morrow is in deep trouble after bottling someone in town during the week when pissed out of his skull. Forget him.
Youngsters are our future at 9:37:49 Sunday December 17 2000
Maybe it's time some of the lazy players should be left sitting on the bench, (or in the stands as long as the little brat who sits in front of me doesn't notice) and Morrow, Hughes, Gould and Thompson giving their places. At least then players like Spedding and Savage will have to fight for their places in the first team.
Anon at 9:36:30 Sunday December 17 2000
I just hope talk of a sale of Forrrester is just the rumour mill at work again. It will be the wrong move at the wrong time and from all accounts a sale well below JF's value. If Zamora is a worth +£1.2 million and an unknown 17 year old at Oxford goes to Southampton for £750,000 what is Jamie really worth? Answers to the board please in very clear language.
Spud at 9:0:27 Sunday December 17 2000
The last message was for Northampton Gas
Spud at 8:59:4 Sunday December 17 2000
AXA FA Youth Cup 3rd round
Wednesday December 20 2000
Kick off 7pm
This match has been re-arranged as above. Admission prices are £3 adults, £1 senior citizens but FREE for children. Because of this new date, next week's scheduled reserve team game with Wycombe Wanderers has been postponed
Cobbler in the West at 8:43:22 Sunday December 17 2000
If Forrester is sold no doubt a lesser player or two will be brought in to placate the fans but we are not mugs. I think there will be great disquiet and all I hope is that TCMP and other directors who may view this site take careful note of the mood of the fans and the now widely accepted view that the departure of Broadhurst was a big mistake.
Ray at 0:58:15 Sunday December 17 2000
Im not sure that "the best way forward" is debateable. You play your games and take the results as they come. You cant say "OK - we'll get promotion this year" or "We will consolidate this year" - it just doesnt work like then. (at least it damn well better not!!)
Hartwell at 0:15:54 Sunday December 17 2000
Oh, yes, and Hendon scored the equaliser for Wednesday in the Sheffield derby today....and Patmore scored for Yeovil!
Hartwell at 0:10:57 Sunday December 17 2000
If Wilson is quoted correctly in saying he and Broadhurst had differing views about the best way forward I can hardly believe what I am reading. Surely there is only one way for a football club to go ? And that is onwards and upwards. What other way is there ? It really is that simple. How can any two people at the same club disagree about such a basic, elementary point? Can you imagine Bryan Robson and Terry Venables disagreeing about the "best way forward " for Middlesboro'? ! If that quote is accurate is it any wonder we are in such a mess?
Paul at 23:55:41 Saturday December 16 2000
The club is in crisis, I am genuinely worried that Jammie is leaving, and if this is the case then I really really will be pissed off!
Paul at 23:54:32 Saturday December 16 2000
I hate to admit it, but really Wilson has to stay. That is unless he resigns in which case he isn't entitled to severence pay. The best we can hope is that someone would be bought in to "help" him like Venables at Middlesborough!
Ralph at 23:40:27 Saturday December 16 2000
Whilst we didn't sing much today I still felt we were all pretty vocal, I've still got a sore throat. I didn't enjoy listening to the section of our loyal support that joined in with the home chants deriding our club and players. I wouldn't be surprised to see Forrester go, if he doesn't score soon the loonies will just turn on him. It does take long in football to become a 'hasbeen' and Jamie probably didn't enjoy some of the 'loyal' support that was being aimed at the players today.
Anon at 23:34:16 Saturday December 16 2000
Where was the support from the terraces? We took about 1500 to 2000 to was a shower of s**t!
Ralph at 23:32:36 Saturday December 16 2000
I don't know which planet you watched the game from Andy but it sure wasn't planet Earth!
DEK at 23:32:29 Saturday December 16 2000
I just wish I would be proved wrong although Wilson will not go anyway cos of his contract. The MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR difference now is that we are not scoring the first goal. If we had scored 1st today, or took the lead before half time there would have been no way that we would have lost today. Ie: The same as we would never had won at Cambridge had they scored 1st. Other off the field stuff might be occurring but does anyone ACTUALLY know this is the case???
g at 23:30:11 Saturday December 16 2000
Where was the support from the terraces? A pretty pathetic effort I thought - right from the beginning. It's no use whingeing afterwards if most of you can't be bothered to encourage the lads.
DEK at 23:14:8 Saturday December 16 2000
WILSON OUT WILSON OUT, he hasn't got the bottle. He can talk the talk, We want to concentrate on our game (totally opposite to Atkins who was obsessed with the opposition) we want to play football (passing the ball more but we could not have passed it any less !) time to bring on Morrow, don't need any new players as we have a strong squad. WALKING THE WALK WILSON. In the last four games we have scored two goals, one a cross from Sturridge, the other a deflected free kick from Hendon. Not much improvement in the football, no shooting from around the box, we make it so easy for their defenders because we don't make them commit themselves, we always play the obvious pass in the last third, nobody except Hendon runs past the ball to either receive a pass or take the defenders away. Morrow has played about 15 minutes in six or seven games, one against 8 men, the other 2 minutes when losing one-nil. He bottled it twice in the last two games, both games we were on top but didn't really look like scoring yet stuck with 4-4-2 to replace Sturridge, would not gamble and push on with 4-4-3 until it was too late and our shape then went totally out of the window. So I am afraid that its looks like its true that Wilson is not strong enough and that he is too much an Atkins man. Peter Jackson, Nigel Clough or Frank Clark (Could we afford him ? ) please. OCT 31 1999.
Northampton Gas at 22:46:16 Saturday December 16 2000
If I said that the manager has lost the plot, the team no longer appears to want to play for the manager, there is a lack of team tactics and the manager should do the honerable thing and go, who would I be speaking about. *s* Well it appears to apply to both The Cobblers and The Gas at the moment, unfortunately. Regarding Forrester, I regret that your earlier correspondant is probably correct as I expect - and hope - that he will have signed for The Gas by next Tuesday. Still I'll be at 6fields on Tuesday afternoon, to watch the Cobblers reserves play Wycombe reserves, unless this game is also postponed.
Andy at 22:11:30 Saturday December 16 2000
I don't think it was that bad. We played well in the first half and didn't deserve to be 2-1 at half time. We certainly had the most chances. I can't beleive Gabbi missed that shot after doing all the hard work (and nor could he, judging by his expression). Their keeper made a great save from Forrester even though it was given as a goal kick. The second half was a mess, but you always felt Cobblers were going to equalise sooner or later. That Hackett goal was a kick in the teeth. You can't really blame the defence, that bloke was fast! And everyone was expecting a cross rather than a shot on goal. Even then you still felt Cobblers could salvage something from the game. And those that doubted the commitment obviously didnt see the frustration from the players as defeat loomed. Spedding was lucky to stay on the pitch after hacking down one of their players. I went with a neutral supporter, and he thought it was a great game and Northampton were unlucky. I think it was a game Oxford won rather than Cobblers lost. I note the hysterics came mostly from people who didn't see the game and hopefully next week our prize attack we get a bit more luck.
thoughts for the future at 22:8:7 Saturday December 16 2000
perhaps we haven't signed a good right back because hunters being thought of as the long term replacement for Hendon? i'm sure hunter's played right back for us b4
The Ashford Cobbler at 21:27:20 Saturday December 16 2000
Complete disarray. As I said on here after the games against Bournemouth and Swindon we don't have good enough defenders to play with 4 at the back in this division. Even against Oxford and especially when you need to protect a young promising keeper playing only his second competitive first team game. A back 3 of Sampson, Green and Hope we can just about get away with. Sampson and Green are too slow and we will get overrun as today showed. Although we were poor going forward we always look like creating enough and our success has been built on solid defending an nicking a goal or 2. Jamie is going through a lean spell. It was bound to happen and he will come back. Unfortunately Gabbiadini has never gone through anything but a lean spell. A moment in the first half today he showed a tremdous bit of skill beating a player coming in from the right and then he should have buried the shot but he curled it wide. Unfortunately I had lived the final stages of the second half assuming that we were 3-2. I must have turned away after the Hunt goal and assumed Oxford kicked off. This did make the final 15 minutes more exciting for me than it was for the rest of the Cobblers fans. Hughes does look short of quality. There is enough quality around him though and he has looked better earlier in the season. He needs a confidence building run with 3 at the back and Hodge back in the team. Team against Pish. Welch (hopefully), Hughes, Sampson, Green, Hope, Spedding (do what?), Hodge (hopefully again), Hunt, Hargreaves, Forrester, Howard. A point would do for me though and if it is a point a 0-0 would be ideal to steady the ship.
Ed at 20:33:58 Saturday December 16 2000
Quote from NTFC Official notes by Kevin Wilson "We had differing ideas on the Best way forward for NTFC" -with reference to his sacking of Broadhurst on 2nd Nov. Since his infamous quote the Cobblers have only won ONE league match. It is obvious the direction that Wilson wants to take the club- But that is totally against the wishes of the serious fans - who actually pay his fat salary.I am sure that all fans would like to hear from Wilson and the Board what the hell is going on , as it is obvious that this situation cannot go on for too long. The home match on Boxing day will /could be a very sad day for the club if the fans are forced to demonstrate in a very clear way that they care for the club and the CRISES that it is now in. The idea that Wilson has of selling Forrester at a silly low price will solve the mess that he has got the club into is unbeleivable.An early statement by the Board is a must that all fans should demand prior to next weeks match. Should the video of the match show that Green directly insulted a section of NTFC fans, should result in him being fined and transfer listed.
Santa Claus at 20:32:2 Saturday December 16 2000
Bloody 'ell these kids are getting more and more demanding. Where the heck am I going to get three points from with a defence like that?
Little Johnny at 20:31:1 Saturday December 16 2000
Dear Father Christmas, I would like a yatch, a football, a drum, and most of all three points v Pish next week. Thank you. PS Mince pie and milk are in the usual place.
Bordeaux Claret at 20:19:40 Saturday December 16 2000
A two-fingered variety I believe.
Bordeaux Claret at 20:19:32 Saturday December 16 2000
A two-figered variety I believe.
w'boro claret at 20:16:14 Saturday December 16 2000
so what 'gesture' did green make to the fans then?
anon at 20:8:53 Saturday December 16 2000
we could be in the bottom six after xmas.
Oxford Bull at 20:8:28 Saturday December 16 2000
Well it's all gone quiet over here! You were all so full of confidence, perhaps a little too much eh? Still Peterborough are waiting for you now, are you ready to get on their message boards too and proclaim a premature victory? Thanks for the points, cheery bye!
Wizz at 19:53:1 Saturday December 16 2000
I heard there is little respect for Wilson within the dressing room. Most don't listen, the rest just argue. It is not looking good. The team look dispirited, disjointed and appear to lack belief in either themselves or the 'game plan'. Something needs to be done quickly before we find ourselves back where 'boro belong!
Sonny at 19:48:34 Saturday December 16 2000
Talk on the terrace today was that Wilson is talking with none other than Ray Warburton! Wilson believes that this would go down well with the fans. Thiscomes from a very reliable source but on two counts I cannot see this coming off. One, Razor has been out of league football too long and his recent crop of injuries will make him only marginally quicker than Green. Secondly, Wilson will bring pressure upon himself as the fans will soon be chanting for Warburton as manager. Still, worth sharing I thought.
Ralph at 19:29:40 Saturday December 16 2000
It was very poor today, apart from a twenty minute spell in the first half we were never in it. I was looking forward to seeing Sollitt but he looked very nervous and did not inspire confidence at all. The first goal needed a shout but it looked like Sammo leaving it for the keeper and the third goal beat Sollitt at the near post. Hughes again looked way out of his depth. Sammo tried to hold the whole thing together. Green is getting slower by the day, for the third goal Hackett went by him as if he didn't exist. Green must be slowest defender we have ever had. Hope was playing left back and his usual good distribution deserted him today. Major gaff by Wilson to sub Hope for Spedding, Wilson should have taken off Green and put Hope in the middle. Gabbiadini at right wing is nothing short of tactical suicide, which was very painful to watch. Gabbi now looks disinterested and Wilson has failed to get the best out of a very good player. Hunt turned in an aggressive, never say die performance. Savage had a good first half but went Christmas shopping in the second half. Hargreaves is a favourite of mine but even he failed to deliver today. Forrester looked sharp but missed a chance in each half that earlier in the season would have ended up in the back of the net. Howard won virtually every long ball hit at him but service to the front two was crap. I cannot recall us getting to the by-line once. Clare came on but did not really have a chance to express himself, unlike the Cobblers 'faithful' who joined in with the Oxford fans to sing 'Northampton w**k-w**k-w**k', booed the team off at the end and sang 'what a load of rubbish'. The latter was nearer the mark. Wilson's post-match interview made no sense and was just a bunch of rambled words. We are in free fall, Welch isn't in goal to stop 'em and Jaime ain't scoring. Other than that not too much has changed really.
Town at 19:28:3 Saturday December 16 2000
Cobblers performance today was un acceptable, the only player who seemed to play with any passion was James Hunt. Forrester and Gabbiadini both missed great opportunities. There was no one else to blame but himself and Greens "gesture" just divides the club further from the fans. There must be improvements before the Pish, or at least a noticeable increase in passion from the players.
ACE at 19:23:34 Saturday December 16 2000
FACT-Wilson sacked Broadhurst FACT-The last month we have played without shape and tactical awareness.FACT-Wilson has chosen the goal leaking back 4.FACT-Wilson has chosen to play Gabbiadini,Hope,Hughes and Savage out of position.Yes Kevin the referee was poor but it was our defence that let in 3 goals to the team bottom of the table.No excuses at Boro'.Maybe it might be worth selecting the formation that was successful at Colchester a month ago!!!
pissed of cobs fan at 19:20:57 Saturday December 16 2000
i have herd jamie forrister is of to bristal on monday from a good source can enye i put some lite on it for me
creaton cobbler at 19:20:49 Saturday December 16 2000
Green must apologize for his gesture to the cobblers fans at the end of the game or leave the club.
Frustrated! at 19:7:34 Saturday December 16 2000
Oxford are without a doubt the poorest side I have seen this year. And they beat us 3-1. It is saying something when the Oxford fans are singing "You're so sh*t it's unbelievable" and our fans are applauding them. Still, maybe our lot singing "One Kevan Broadhurst" might shake Willo up a bit.
Does anyone know what Green did at the end of the game? I didn't see anything but judging from some comments I overheard leaving the ground he made some sort of gesture at our fans.
MP at 18:58:16 Saturday December 16 2000
Can anyone out there confirm whether suicide really is painless, so I can be getting my affairs in order for 4.50 pm next Saturday?
MK18 Cobbler at 18:57:43 Saturday December 16 2000
Things started to go wrong when Broadhurst left and are getting worse. We are on a slide towards trouble. Our standard of play has detiorated beyond recognition for reasons it is hard to understand. But it is clear that Wilson needs a number 2 with tactical knowledge. He must accept this and the club needs to make an appointment before Christmas.
A Childs View at 18:53:57 Saturday December 16 2000
Oh dear - I don't like the sound of any of this! Another poor result and talk of our top scorer being sold for a pittance. Why did Wilson put a price on Jamie? I can't help but feel this was truly stupid - its like putting up the 'Quick Sale Required' sign!!! Football is such a crazy game some desperate club could have ended up paying well in excess of a million for our Jamie! Can't see that happening now a price tag has been stuck on his head!! Lomana Tremor Lua Lua went for over 2 million to Newcastle and he barely gets a game, Cardiff's offer of 1.2 million for Bobby Zamora has just been turned down by Brighton!! What was Willo thinking? Big money offers are not uncommon and Jamie's better than both of those two!! Are we so desperate as to be giving quick sale figures? I'm wondering whether I was right to have been reassured by TCMP?? Are we sailing close to the wind?? What really angers me is that whenever we get a quality player at Northampton talk very quickly turns to how soon we will sell him. Think back to the 86/87 side which, within 6 months of the following season, had been sold off on the cheap. Several years of appalling football followed! That side could, if kept together, have took us comfortably in to what is now the first division. Its a sickener being a Northampton fan, whenever we get quality we don't even try to hold on to them! If this cycle continues Northampton will always be a third rate club which, no matter how much talk there is of ambition, clearly has none. Intention is proved by actions not rhetoric!! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that all players have a price but this ready announcement of a ridiculous price for Jamie makes me think the money is needed urgently! Why else would we settle for such a paltry sum?? If we do have to sell Jamie to balance the books so be it, solvency is crucial, but a least play the market and get what he's worth, not a ridiculous £500k! As usual it will be us, the turnstile fodder, who pay the price by having to watch lesser quality players week in week out. I love Northampton, they are and always will be my only team, but I do get thoroughly depressed when I see this sort of thing go on. We are on a terrible run of form and the club's response is to advertise the cut-price availability of the man who can do most to keep us in the Second Division. How much did we lose through being relegated last time? It's been an emotional day but presently I think NTFC can stuff its season ticket next year. I've watched them since I was 7 years old but there comes a time when you have to ask if its worth the effort!
Anon at 18:53:1 Saturday December 16 2000
One thing is sure you cannot blame a 3-1 defeat against the bottom club of the ref. Something is very wrong and it needs to be put right before we have a crisis.
Terry Hawes- One of Canada's Cobbler Fans! at 18:47:12 Saturday December 16 2000
I think I'm entitled to one gripe a year, so here it goes! The result today is unacceptable, I thought we would be fine, but its obvious we are not!
Now has much as this is going to pain me, the result just shows how above average we played earlier this season and now things are starting to level out, at the end of next month it will be more clear if we are play-off contenders or just a mid-table side.
I still think the people that say we are going to be relegated are a little too critical and yes although I will take a mid-table season , we all are disappointed with these results.
Finally, go to Peterborough and root the boys on, I wish I could come over there, I'd be there in a second...a win next week will kick start the season. Everybody should take a big gulp and swallow their pride, drink a few brews and remember we're ahead of POSH and they are crap too!
GO COBBLERS! Cheers from Terry in Canada and if you want to e-mail me go right ahead, I want to hear your thoughts!
Report from Soccernet at 18:22:28 Saturday December 16 2000
Oxford United ended a run of four straight defeats with a confidence boosting 3-1 win over Northampton Town - who have never won at the Manor Ground.
United were given thew perfect start by Steve Anthrobus, who scored his first ever league goal at home after six minutes, but the Cobblers drew level in the 28th minute.
The U's new goalkeeper Neil Cutler, on-loan from Aston Villa, brought down Jamie Forrester and David Savage scored, but Matt Murphy restored Oxford's lead after 36 minutes by stooping low to head in a Joey Beauchamp corner.
Chris Hackett marked his home debut with the best goal of the match after 59 minutes.
The 17-year-old winger, an Oxfordshire sprint champion, outpaced two defenders in a 40-yard run, which ended when he smashed a 20-yard drive into the net from an acute angle.
Sid at 18:16:16 Saturday December 16 2000
Absolutely dreadful! Just got back from the game and I think just about every Cobblers fan was annoyed with the team, the tactics, the referee and the fact that Oxford beat us! Hunt's "goal" was no way offside - who was interefering?? The ref deemed that Cutler's save in the first half from Jamie's shot was a goal kick, and then gave numerous fouls to them for nothing reasons. But we actually got a penalty - that says something! Overall - the team was awful!
Hartwell at 18:15:23 Saturday December 16 2000
Clearly the defence was again a total mess today. If we concede three goals to the rock bottom club - and it could have been more - there can be no excuses. Yes, we're got injuries. But so do every other club. It must now be a running cert that Wilson gaffed badly in getting rid of Broadhurst. We're won nothing since he left and from a tacticval point of view - let alone results - we are in disarray and freefall. I am not calling for his head. That's p;ointless because we simply cannot afford to pay off another manager. After today, with gates certain to shrink further, we will be hard-pushed to even pay the players on our books. And, anyway, who would replace Wilson had we even got the money to do so ? Another former player ? No. What we need is a qualified coach who knows what he's talking about tactics-wise to help Willo.
Anon at 18:6:8 Saturday December 16 2000
Now theres a good idea - sell Jamie and we can use the money to pay Wilson off.
Ralph at 18:6:0 Saturday December 16 2000
That was not good!
hey there braniacs at 17:57:41 Saturday December 16 2000
Not trying to defend Wilson or anything but if the board did decide to get rid of Wilson where would they get the money to replace him?
And who's to say that a new manager would keep Jamie.
ATKINS BACK??? at 17:23:49 Saturday December 16 2000
WILSON SOUNDS MORE AND MORE LIKE ATKO EVERTIME I HEAR HIM,HE HAS JUST MAD UMPTEEN EXCUSES ON THE RADIO FOR TODAYS RESULT,FUCK BLAMIN THE REF OR WOTEVA ITS DOWN TO THE TEAM AND THE MANAGER,POLEASE FUCKIN SORT IT OUT ASAP U DONT WANNA LOSE TO PISH DO YOU??????????? COULD WE POSSIBLY GO DOWN???? WILSON SAYS THE SAME EVERY WEEK - WE'VE GOT TO START TURNING THIS AROUND,PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO SHOW THEIR TRUE COLOURS,THEY HAVE GOT TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!
TO BE TRUTHFULL at 17:12:25 Saturday December 16 2000
I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT IM DREADING THE BORO GAME NXT WEEK COZ I ACTUALLY THINK WE R GONNA GET TANKED BY THE PISH.WE R IN CRISIS AND SOMEHING NEEDS TO BE DONE,AND FAST!! WILSON AINT GOT A FECKIN CLUE AND HYE NEEDS SOME1 WIV TACT@ICAL ABILITY ALONGSIDE HIM EITHER THAT OR HE SHOULD FECK OFF!!! IF YA STIOLL HATE BORO STILL HATE BORO STILL HATE BORO KICK THERE ARSE!!!!!
CRISIS!!!! at 17:7:34 Saturday December 16 2000
THIS IS GETTING NIGH ON A CRISIS SITUATION!! JUST THINK IF WE LOSE JAMIE I FEAR THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE REALLY SHIT.OH WELL LETS HOPE WE TURN IT AROUND AGAINST BORO SCUMMERS LETS GIVE EM THE HIDING THEY DESERVE!! COME ON TOWN WE R BETTER THAN WHAT WE R SHOWING
Paul at 17:5:0 Saturday December 16 2000
A fine point, perhaps we could pay someone to take him! :-)
Lancaster Cobbler at 16:48:37 Saturday December 16 2000
In order to sell Spedding we have to find someone stupid enough on his current form to give us money!
Posh Fan at 16:48:30 Saturday December 16 2000
Freefall even, the spelling might be wrong but the result is the same. I mean OXFORD for goodness sake. Three points for us on Saturday, cast iron cert.
Paul at 16:47:40 Saturday December 16 2000
Good if Hollaway goes perhaps Bristol Rovers will leave Jamie alone, then when Kev is sacked and new manager comes in we might sell Spedding.
Santa Claus at 16:47:38 Saturday December 16 2000
Ho! Ho! Young Barry I have an earlier Christms present for you, three points from Northampton Town FC, do not even bother worrying about the flu bug, play yourself and all the little Frys you will still win even with your lack of tactical knowhow!
Anon at 16:47:7 Saturday December 16 2000
There is a board meeting on Monday - lets hope they act!
Posh Fan at 16:47:3 Saturday December 16 2000
Cobblers in frefall hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Lancaster Cobbler at 16:45:10 Saturday December 16 2000
Luton are lsoing 3-0 at home to Colchester, Kev's new club although he is Youth Coach so not his fault! B Rovers are losing 3-0 at home to Stoke. Holloway must be in line for the chop!
Lancaster Cobbler at 16:43:16 Saturday December 16 2000
Basically, we are missing a tactician, maybe if we had someone tactical to help out Kev we would be back to our best, but the team are so low, I do not think much can motivate them, why do w ehave good younsters on the bench, when theys houdl be in the 11 to kick a few backsides
Paul at 16:39:15 Saturday December 16 2000
Yes P%sh will murder us next weekend, I'm not looking forward to going. I can't believe I am saying this, but it's true. Those people who don't agree are the same people that thought Atkins was doing a good job when he was near the end!
Lancaster Cobbler at 16:35:48 Saturday December 16 2000
Clare is on for Gabbiadini, why the hell did he bring Spedding on, if we were looking to attack we should bring on Gould and Thompson who are younhg and hungry. SIX DEFEATS IN A ROW! BY the end of the year it will be nine, Boro will tear us apart, lets face it they will. I was thinkin a few weeks ago, don't be stupid, but the fact is we have not kept a clean sheet in ages, we need to act fast!
Anon at 16:29:39 Saturday December 16 2000
I regret I must agree. The time has come to bite the bullet and SORT IT OUT! This is becoming a farce and we will be in deep deeeeeeep shit within a couple of weeks. We are in a completely false position in the league - on the present performances we should be rock bottom!!
Argh! at 16:27:54 Saturday December 16 2000
You will notice that it was a "Mistake" by Spedding which led to the 3rd Goal! It's almost a joke!
Paul at 16:21:18 Saturday December 16 2000
Quite frankly Wilson hasn't got a frikkin clue has he?? He will keep on saying he is not worried and will turn things around, but he is starting to sound like Atkins. Sack him now!! YES SACK HIM!! How many more games must we throw away ?? Oxford people, this is bloody OXFORD!!
Anon at 16:20:52 Saturday December 16 2000
Just what the f*** is going on?
Oh shit! at 16:18:50 Saturday December 16 2000
Oxford 3 Cobblers 1
NEIL at 16:1:58 Saturday December 16 2000
WHATS GOIN ON AT THE MO??? WE R LOSING TO BOTTOM OF THE TABLE TEAM,THE EGG CHASERS WON,DR MARTENS BOYS WINNING,EVERYTHING IS CRAP!!!! CANT WAIT THOUGH IF WE LOSE TDAY THEN I FEAR THAT WE MAY HAMMER BORO!!!!!! WE HATE BORO
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:57:31 Saturday December 16 2000
And I flippin Northampton born ex-Corby player got their goal. Although do not fear Oxford have lost loads of games 3-2 when leading 2-0. Kevin Wilson do something NOW! One thing is for shure we need John Hodge toplay agaisnt the Pish
speaking sensibly at 15:56:46 Saturday December 16 2000
sack the bastard,he is unfit for the job!!!!!!!!!
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:54:6 Saturday December 16 2000
When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? Cutler the Oxford goalkeeper was booked before the penalty I bet that was another crap decision by the referee
Half time at 15:49:9 Saturday December 16 2000
Oxford 2 Cobblers 1
Anon at 15:42:24 Saturday December 16 2000
Oh good - they are taking time out to give the Premiership scores...
Anon at 15:41:42 Saturday December 16 2000
Warren Patmore scores.
Ray at 15:41:14 Saturday December 16 2000
Well what a waste of airtime Radio Northampton is! I found out the score at http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/vidiprinter/ before they told us!! TOSSERS!!
MOLE at 15:41:11 Saturday December 16 2000
OH BOLLOX!!! COME ON TOWN THESE ARE SHIT!!!!
Anon at 15:40:13 Saturday December 16 2000
Oxford take the lead again!
Anon at 15:39:54 Saturday December 16 2000
Perhaps cos if Forrester had took it and scored then his value will go up even more and the board want to get shot as cheap as possible.
MOLE at 15:38:31 Saturday December 16 2000
WHY DID SAVAGE TAKE THE PENALTY??? COME ON TOWN ON LEVEL TERMS NOW LETS PUSH ON AND GAIN VICTORY
Anon at 15:30:12 Saturday December 16 2000
COBBLERS EQUALISE!!!
Ray at 15:29:56 Saturday December 16 2000
This is getting o be too regular! The Saints are not in contention for a damn thing - the Cobblers stand a chance of promotion and they chose to cover the egg chasers! Pure logic! The Saints match finishes in 5 mins or so - wonder if they will be able to sapre the time to cover the Cobblers then or are we going to have 100s of postmatch interviews.
disgusted at 15:27:46 Saturday December 16 2000
Can those idiots at radio northampton not realise - when the egg balls are at home and kevins clarret army are away,there is only one logical comentary to broadcast ?
i was going to buy a tv licence this afternoon but as a protest to the BBc im not going to !!
Anon at 15:22:35 Saturday December 16 2000
just got in from work turn on the radio to catch up on the mighty cobblers and guess what they are brosadcasting the bloody rugby !
pissed off
Anon at 15:21:6 Saturday December 16 2000
I see the wonderful Saints are getting the lions share again!!
CIJ at 15:19:16 Saturday December 16 2000
Where is every1?? Why is egg chasing on the radio again!!! I need footy commentry!!!
Anon at 15:17:43 Saturday December 16 2000
THE AWAY PUB HAS CLOSED DOWN, ANY COBBLERS FANS KNOW THE BEST PLACES TO DRINK AND CELEBRATE A WIN AT XMAS OVER BORO.
Anon at 15:16:45 Saturday December 16 2000
THE AWAY PUB HAS CLOSED DOWN, ANY COBBLERS FANS KNOW THE BEST PLACES TO DRINK AND CELEBRATE A WIN AT XMAS OVER BORO.
Anon at 15:13:21 Saturday December 16 2000
Double crap. Just been on the football ground site, the main away pub at sh*tboro has closed down, Where are we all going to go?
Anon at 15:11:45 Saturday December 16 2000
1 - nil down : dodgey offside decision
Anon at 15:5:46 Saturday December 16 2000
anyone listening to the commentary or whatever can give me/us the lineup?
Anon at 14:12:45 Saturday December 16 2000
still no score
Anon at 13:37:22 Saturday December 16 2000
I assume everyone is at the match - current score Oxford 0 Cobblers 0
Bedford Cobbler at 13:19:58 Saturday December 16 2000
i dunno what the bloudy heels goin on at sixfields lateley. wilson said at the start of the season we were lookin to show ambition and maybe playoffs this season.but whn he sells probabley our best right back for years ian hendon to sheffield wed who lets face it arnt much better than us and talk of jamie forrester goin to rovers for 300,000!! im sorry but i think jamie for what hes done for us is worth at least a million he could take it in the premiership. personally marco Gabbiadini has been a waste of time i think hes only scored 3 goals not good enough i think he should be out the door and we should but daryll clare from grimsby and partner him with jamie and steve howard just behind? and once we get roy hunter and lee howey back we could be lookin at playoffs and first division next season. but we gotta start playin the football we showed that tok us up last season and at the start of this season and players have gotta be commited starting with 3 points againt oxford this afternoon UP THE COBBLERS AND FUCK THE POSH!!
Razor at 11:51:26 Saturday December 16 2000
Oh and Confused Cobbler I think you must be given your posting lol other than the P*sh ref
Razor at 11:47:53 Saturday December 16 2000
Claret Bloodbath may well have a point.He is saying what some of us have also said on these pages and in our locals.We are fed up with losing and since Kev Broadhurst left we don't even look like half a chance of winning.I am not for one minute saying Kev Wilson should go but if something doesn't happen soon then we may well be staring doom in the face.WILSON IN ( but hey what the hell is going on ? )
Anon at 10:9:1 Saturday December 16 2000
try http://www.oufc.co.uk
Cobbler in the West at 9:18:43 Saturday December 16 2000
It was reported on BBC ceefax last night that Cardiff have had an offer of £1.2 million for Brighton's Zamora rejected. Zamora was signed by Brighton for £100,000 recently from one of the Bristol clubs. If we have to talk about the worth of Jamie Forrester, and I don't because I want him to stay and would be very disappointed in the club if he was sold, then he must be worth very much more than is being said by KW.
DavCobbler at 9:12:9 Saturday December 16 2000
Oh eck !! Things are gettin a tad irrational on ere innit ? Will Kev and the mob really let Jamie go ? I fear that if they do they could be looking at more than just a few missed scoring opportunities and the like. Maybe someone needs to ASK for fundraising if that is what we need, I for one would be more than happy to assist with anything that we could do. Always a glutton for punishment me................
See you all in the White Horse at Oxford folks.......Up the Cobblers !!!
Confused Cobbler at 8:41:3 Saturday December 16 2000
Don't believe EVERYTHING you read. Base your OWN opinions on the FACTS. DO NOT allow yourself to be SMOTHERED by those who know NO MORE than YOU. We can all make RASH JUDGEMENTS and belittle situations and other PEOPLE but maybe we should CONSIDER all available OPTIONS and ETHICS before becoming too BESOTTED by TALK. Up the Town.......FUKK THE POSH (again)
The cobbled road at 8:25:39 Saturday December 16 2000
Yeah right, another pile of shit. Pity you don't fall under the bloody bandwagon.
Claret Bloodbath at 8:14:12 Saturday December 16 2000
Anybody know what the payment to Utrecht/Walsall will be when JF is sold ? Nobody seems to be asking questions of the Manager of the team the person who brought JF to the Town only of those that put up the money in the first place. How many more dissapointments do you have to witness before you start jumping on the Wilson Out bandwagon...Yet again Ray is right there are a lot of people who speak a lot but never act until something happens due to others actions and they can jump aboard.People here have denounced me before and called for my head as a Team disrupter, they are misinformed and have not read what I have posted.Kevin Wilson is I am sure, listening to all his close personal friends on here who deal with him on a day to day basis NOT,a lovely bloke and has ridden his good fortune well but the time has come where the backs are to the wall and we aint pushing forward.The Manager of the team 3rd from bottom was "confident and looking forward to the Northampton game" and why? Whether it was KB who was the backbone or whoever, that backbone is no longer there it needs to be replaced.If you want a rubber stamper and PR man at the helm then fine but he needs someone behind him with clout, authority and boll*cks to stir the best squad we have had in decades up and get them to stop this run of unacceptable defeats and give the fans and the town what they deserve.Now if thats slagging someone off or having a go then I apologise but all you Loyal Supporters out there who have nothing to say other than what a nasty bugger that Claret Bloodbath is then tough.This aint about nice lovely buddy buddy kissy kiss kiss matey crap its about the Mighty NTFC we need to sort it now before the slide to YET ANOTHER oblivion.
Pitch Inspection at 2pm at 7:21:26 Saturday December 16 2000
Be there!
Shadwell at 6:43:56 Saturday December 16 2000
Absolutely appalling. This has got to be one of the most crass and short term decisions I have witnessed at the club. There is only one reason why we're not languishing in the lower regions of the Third division and that's Jamie Forrester. To give him away for £500,000 is a disgrace. I have been a staunch supporter of the board to date even following the sale of Warburton, which I still feel was a mistake, but this decision is stretching my patience to the limit. Short-term financial prudence at the price of footballing suicide isn't sound management. If we're simply cashing in, then lets sell Welch as well and be done with it. When the West Stand is empty next season and the board are looking around wide eyed and mystified they'll see the words 'Lack of ambition' stamped on every empty seat.
Andy at 23:1:42 Friday December 15 2000
People should make their mind up. We are either a small club stuggling to stay alive in the face off Premiership clout, or we are a big business ripping fans off at every opportunity. It seems as if people adopt either stance to voice their greviance. Take a choice folks.
Ray at 22:24:5 Friday December 15 2000
Its all very well asking the fans to put their hands in their pockets but we often find their isnt anything there when we do - the fact that the silence is deafening doesnt prove a lot. If we had the sort of money that enabled us to make a donation to the Club to enable us to turn down a 1/2 million pound offer we wouldn't be sitting here moaning about it - we would be on the Board actually doing something about it.
ANON at 22:6:3 Friday December 15 2000
SACK THE DAMN BOARD!!! WE NEED JAMIE IN OUR TEAM WHO ELSE SCORES?? FAIR ENOUGH TO STEVIE HES A TRMENDOUS PLZYER BUT HE ISNT A 25 GOAL MAN!! AS FOR MARCO HES A GOOD PLAYER WHO HOLDS THE BALL WELL AND SETS PEOPLE UP>SACK THE BOARD>WE LOVE JAMIE
Anon at 21:23:33 Friday December 15 2000
dummy run, my earlier posting has gone AWOL
Cobbler in the West at 21:21:17 Friday December 15 2000
Back tonight after a while but worried to read rumours of Forrester sale. Not true I hope because travelling from a significant distance to see all homes games I will be very upset if one of our best players is sold. I would have to re-consider the expense and time I put into this club because any replacement would not be in the same class. Sorry but that is reality from someone with not a lot of money but a lot of love for this club.
Mr Realist at 20:43:49 Friday December 15 2000
I have a great idea ,anyone who disagree's that the club are not doing the sensible thing and selling forrester to help balance the book's and keep the club on an even keel, put there hands in there pocket's ( the silence will be deafening)
Mr realist. at 20:28:54 Friday December 15 2000
Mark too, I'm afraid you are out of touch, when was the last time a player out of the second division was sold for £1.5 million? Forrester is 26 years old,not a 18 year old wonder kid. He's scoring goals at the moment yes,but it won't be if we want him to stay,it will be if the money's right for the player, and the agent see pound notes in front of him , then he will be away whatever we want, even if he's just signed a 3 year contract. Most people are getting carried away with all the prices flying about in the Premiership,What with all the uncertainty with transfer fee's, who's going to pay £1.5 million on a second division player ? P. S. To Martin W. You can put whatever value you want on a player, but he's only worth what you can get for him ?
Giles Lawrence (Shiteboro' COBBLER) at 20:15:0 Friday December 15 2000
The 12pm K.O is the home game against P**h on 27th Jan....
Mark Too at 20:0:35 Friday December 15 2000
Hartwell. I agree with you that a player is only worth what someone will pay for him, but I think what Kev should be saying is that unless someone meets a valuation of somewhere in the region of £1.5 million, then it is a no-sell situation as he is valuable to us.
Ralph at 19:51:49 Friday December 15 2000
That's no reason to sell him cheaply. It still hurts when I think of the Barnes and Adcock 'steal of the century'. Face it we have never been able to get the true worth of any player we have sold.
Hartwell at 19:43:44 Friday December 15 2000
I've just boked tickets for the Posh away game. Can anyone tell me whether it's a 3pm KOP (as advertised on the club's website) or Noon, as I'd heard rumoured earlier today ? Regarding the Forrester saga - while it's fun to speculate about a player's worth the fact remains that every player is worth only what someone is prepared to pay for them. I'm surprised Kevin's even gone on record with an actual figure. However, in doing the guessing game about players' possible fee values, we must remember that right now the market's in limbo while a decision is made on the whole issue of transfer fees. That in itself is having a flattening effect on the market.
Mark Too at 19:31:19 Friday December 15 2000
So Kev W says Jamie is worth at least 500k. That worries me immensely. One of the top scorers in the 2nd Division, and his manager publicly values him at something over £500,000.I'm lost for words. How?, Why?, What? I just don't know how to put it. £500k? That's peanuts for a player like him! Am I totally out of touch? He's got to be worth a least £1 million more than that!
Anon at 18:46:34 Friday December 15 2000
CHEEKY BLOODY B******S OFFERING SUCH A PITTANCE
Anon at 18:45:58 Friday December 15 2000
Jamie don't go!!!!!!
Stewpot at 18:21:20 Friday December 15 2000
Have just returned from a very busy Sixfields club shop and bought a couple of millenuim videos from that lovely Janet York who keeps her looks and figure very well if I may so. Not a bad production not as good as the totally unbiased commentry of Richard Jordon done by Mike Vince ex Chiltern Radio now Eurosport. Shame no cover on the cassette so will have to make one for a present, shame its only an hour long for £16 near on but a nice montage of Jamies goals at the end. Not too many games from last season but beggars cant be choosers I suppose. Unable to go to Oxford due to the festive peroid taking its toll on my wallett but memories of being sardined in the away end when we lost in the FA Cup second round a few seasons ago and at half time a fellow supporter asked for a gap so he could pee down the terrace but plenty of top tottie student wise from previous shopping expeditions. Good to see TCMP airing his views well done that man. Just a suggestion to the fella who puts the site together any chance of when you come to the guest book have a option to start reading from when you last arrived as I work most of the week so unable to read comments and it would save trawling through until I remember what I last read. All the best tomorrow lads I see Oxford have signed Kieth Rowland from QPR and Aston Villa keeper Neil Cutler on loan.
Dyl at 17:25:29 Friday December 15 2000
Nothing's happened yet. We've received a derisory offer but perhaps Rovers were just chancing their arm knowing that we have a history of selling cheaply. If however we did sell JF cheaply then I would be appalled.
Northampton Gas at 17:25:17 Friday December 15 2000
I see the Forrester saga is now in the open and have to admit to being "Inside Out". The original info I heard came from a source in Northampton and NOT from the Bristol end. I gather that your chairman is anxious to get some cash in as the finances are non to good. Did this have a bearing on the loss of Kevin Broadhurst? Check out the not completely full story on - http://193.117.250.165/sports/football/div23/story29.htm
MartinWreallyreallypissedoff at 17:19:18 Friday December 15 2000
SO Jamie Forrester is worth in the region of £500,000. What a load of old crap. He is worth at least a million and if we accept a £500,000 offer from him I'll send my season ticket back in disgust.
Bristol Rovers are having a laugh if they think they would get him for £300,000 especially as he is still young.
Wilson said (for the record): I brought Jamie to the club in the summer to score goals and he has done very well for us and he is settled here. With the valuation of other players around at the moment at this level, I value Jamie Forrester at well over £500,000. We all know that every player at a club like this has his price, but Jamie has
done very well for us this season, and if was ever to leave this club, I would expect a fee of well over half a million pounds for our top scorer."
Utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter utter despair.
Depressed at 17:5:39 Friday December 15 2000
Didn't relegation to the 3rd cost us about £400K a couple of years ago? Losing Jamie would increase the chances of that happening again so it's very poor business to accept as little as £500K for him.
Anon at 17:1:19 Friday December 15 2000
SACK THE BOARD!!!
Depressed. at 17:0:7 Friday December 15 2000
Shoot 'em anyway.
Anon at 16:59:3 Friday December 15 2000
If the board accept £500K they want bloody shooting.
Depressed at 16:58:5 Friday December 15 2000
So Bristol Rovers have offered 300K for Jamie and KW has rejected it saying it's got to be at least 500K. It won't be long before someone offers that then. Surely it's not enough? Bye Jamie.
Anon at 15:47:41 Friday December 15 2000
It should be Kcc
9224 at 14:45:36 Friday December 15 2000
I get nostalgic at Christmas, and I do remember (actually I've just read) that 3 yrs ago (97/98) we picked up 1 point from 12 [Nov19 to Dec19] - we didn't do too badly that year so stick with it - we have a better squad now - it'll come good
9224 at 14:38:42 Friday December 15 2000
GREAT COMMENTS OF OUR TIME #1
(me just over three years ago!!!)
9224 at 13:20:48 Sunday December 14 97
Why doesn't he play Colkin instead of Potter? Potter is useless! I hope Johnny Frain will be fit for tuesday (7:30 - Sky Sports Two)
NSB (leeds cobbler) at 14:14:18 Friday December 15 2000
I reckon we must be the only club in the country who has a board meber such as TCMP who actually talks to the fans and lets us know whats going on, long may it continue!
Ray at 14:6:12 Friday December 15 2000
Anything is worth a try....
9224 at 13:58:12 Friday December 15 2000
sorry, "is it worth A try?"
9224 at 13:57:37 Friday December 15 2000
If they were considering selling JF, would the club listen to pleas from fans not to? Is it worth try? Ray? TCMP?
9224 at 13:52:31 Friday December 15 2000
having read the news item - all I have to say is "Screw the Premier League!!!" It was founded on the basis of greed and is slowly killing football. The time will come when the lists of creditors in smaller clubs simply say "enough is enough!!"
Inside Out at 13:52:20 Friday December 15 2000
Jamie Forrester will be available to play on Saturday, as he has not been transfered before the 12.00 noon deadline. The interested club, are still considering the fee reqired by The Cobblers. No doubt this will be a matter of bluff - how desperate are The Cobblers to get in some much needed cash and are the club interested prepared to up their existing offer.
Ray at 11:46:56 Friday December 15 2000
Quite right too Sid!
Sibs at 11:18:10 Friday December 15 2000
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1070000/1070392.stm Thought some of you might be interested in this BBC news item. Hotel Ender - Cheers for the correction!!
Carl at 10:12:5 Friday December 15 2000
Buy one from Intercell it is on there for you, although my Brother somehow managed to delete mine with bloody Abba. I have looked and can't find it, try it under it's other names as well, The Red Flag, Oh Christmas Tree and probably about another 20 names.
Simon at 10:9:41 Friday December 15 2000
Can somebody please tell me where I can get the Fields of Green Ringtone for Nokia please
Carl at 10:4:57 Friday December 15 2000
Don't be silly.
Anon at 9:50:55 Friday December 15 2000
"HI HO HI HO ITS OFF TO POSH WE GO,WITH A KNIFE AND A STICK AND A F*CKING BRICK HI HO HI HO HI HO........
Carl at 9:46:2 Friday December 15 2000
Sadly, or otherwise NO.
Anon at 9:36:52 Friday December 15 2000
Can someone tell me where I can get the Last Christmas ringtone for free
MartinW at 8:14:31 Friday December 15 2000
And I can tell that's not the real MOMAC.
The Drilling Cobbler at 23:40:14 Thursday December 14 2000
Rio Ferndinand has recently gone to Leeds for 18Million pounds and he hasnt scored 1 goal this season. That means Jamies value is somewhere in the region of 600million pounds. Even Sammo would be worth about 36million pounds. Thats if we all only take into account how many goals a players scored to determin their value! Even the Carlise goalie would be worth more than Rio - he plays even further back, doesnt go up for corners etc. I'm bored as you can probably tell. See ya!
MOMAC. at 23:11:14 Thursday December 14 2000
Yeah right!!!!!! come off it ,is that really you Martin W???
MartinW at 23:7:19 Thursday December 14 2000
mR j FORRRESTER, you almost convinced me that you were for real but you gave the game away by describing your boss as Willo at the end. Everyone knows that it is only the fans who refer to him in that way. Still, good try. Well done. You did ever so well. I'd love to think that Jamie would stay, but the guts of me says that he will go for not enough dosh. Still lets stuff Oxford in a particularly stuffed way. Oh and bring back Broadhurst. A pointless brain dead comment that will lead nowhere, but hey, that's what this is all about. But you know it makes sense.
MOMAC. at 23:6:8 Thursday December 14 2000
Mmmmmmmmmmm No.
A Childs View at 23:0:41 Thursday December 14 2000
Yeah - come off it! Is that really you Jamie????
Mr J.Forrester at 21:51:49 Thursday December 14 2000
Hi,
Having been asked a few days ago to post a msg on this site by Kevin and the staff at Sixfields i am doing so.With all due respect could you please end this talk about me moving to every club in Britain,I'm a Northampton Town player and thats the way i plan to keep it.I am enjoying my time here and look forward to the rest of the season with hope.We have the basis for a promotion push we need to get winning again.So i ask again please stop speculating about my future.I can promise all of you that I will not be leaving Sixfields this season and if that does happen you,the fans,will be first to know as you have made me feel very welcome and proud to pull on the claret shirt.anyway give us the support we need and we may just suprise a few people this year,thank you kindly
p.s. Told you i'd do it willo
Come on at 21:38:56 Thursday December 14 2000
TCMP, yeah I bet he can't wait. - it's got to be a fake message.
NOBBY at 21:34:43 Thursday December 14 2000
ANY1 GOT ANY DETAILS ON THE PISH TICKET SITUATION??
Anon at 21:31:5 Thursday December 14 2000
Name dropper...
TCMP at 21:21:15 Thursday December 14 2000
I would like to be with you all on Saturday but I have to fly to Washington to meet George Bush jr, wish me well.
Anon at 21:5:45 Thursday December 14 2000
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Carl at 20:42:6 Thursday December 14 2000
Scoring six in Carlisles team is worth about 240 in any other team though
Mole - I dont think so at 20:38:20 Thursday December 14 2000
Nige, if you knew anything about The Cobblers you would know why attendance is low (see TRB Mark), and why Chris Lee was romoured to be a million pound player.
Anon at 20:9:6 Thursday December 14 2000
Cobblers
TRB Mark at 19:53:45 Thursday December 14 2000
Well, Nige, You'd better tell Debenhams to make their shops smaller because they are'nt full all the time. You have to have an operating capacity that reflects the potential of the club. The reason that we don't get sell outs is because there are too many all ticket games. The reason there are too many all ticket games is because the police are frit that any club with more than one man and his dog for support will try and get into the home areas. If you had a bigger away end (which comes under the banner "bigger ground") you would'nt have all ticket games and every casuals would be able to turn up on the day relativley confident that they could get in.
Nige at 19:45:54 Thursday December 14 2000
Does our ground really need extending?? ?We dont have many sellouts and the attendances have been poor,which is due to a number of things.The prices are high,Saints on the same day and poor performances.Although it would be good to have another tier on the north stand! come on Cobblers on Sat lets get winning again!! DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY PISH TICKETS ARE LEFT? Also Read that Arsenal may be interested in Carlisles Scott Dobie(Atkins Rates him £million player!) He has only Scored 6 this season,how much is forrester worth i ask!!! ANYWAY COME ON TOWN!!! Anyone Remember Atkins Claiming Chris Lee to be a million pound player!! Sums Atko up dont it!!
MartinW at 19:30:29 Thursday December 14 2000
H, to coin an old nickname, Neil Grayson will always be a God in these parts. And if he can't play for the Clarets he might as well play for the next best thing - the Robins. And remember a big part of his heart has Cobblers written on it - the same way that I will always have a soft spot for the Robins. And he knows the significance of stuffing it up Rushden.
It would be great to see the Robins in Division Two - but by then we will be in Division One. Well... you can be wish.
sexist dave at 18:35:15 Thursday December 14 2000
nor did i anon, what a cosmopolitan society we live in
Anon at 18:18:6 Thursday December 14 2000
KFC? Didnt know chickens played football.
sexist dave at 18:14:1 Thursday December 14 2000
hmmmmm, womens footballs good, honest.
RaChEl at 17:14:35 Thursday December 14 2000
Girls team by the way!!! The score was 9-0!
RaChEl at 17:13:3 Thursday December 14 2000
KKC are the County Champions in Footie, We wont the U-16 tournament this afternoon!
Dyl at 17:7:47 Thursday December 14 2000
I would guess that a lot of the coppers on match day are Special Constables and lack either the initiative or the confidence to act independently.
Hartwell at 17:3:20 Thursday December 14 2000
It occurs to me, Drilling Cobbler, that at one time you used to see coppers take on point duty as a matter of course if there were any holdups on the road. It was just part and parcel of their job. I just wonder whether this is still the case ? And if it is, why on earth haven't those from the force who are in charge on match days spotted the traffic problems and done something on the spot to help relieve them ? You'd have to be blind to miss the chaos on the Weedon Road and Upton Way after matches, especially when the Saints are at home. As there are clearly far more police on duty at Sixfields than is necessary 99% of the time, it's blatantly obvious either a) they don't look to see what's occuring b) they do but can't be bothered to do anything to ease the traffic congestion or c) are jobsworths. I know what I suspect!
Paul S at 17:1:34 Thursday December 14 2000
I'd heard that we'd lost out and they are going to use Rubbish & Dustbins goalposts (or was it their goalie and its the ball that flys over)
Carl at 15:50:26 Thursday December 14 2000
No, is it only about money, do we really need money that much, we will have to replace him, the bloke is basically idolised at our club, whose name gets the biggest cheer every week? Steve Howard has already been sold 4 or 5 times this season, if anything comes of it then so be it, but stop all the rumours, it makes me mad. I could sit here type in a name that means nothing and say what I like, but I don't, certain sad muppets insist on it, and how many times have they been right, how many times have they been wrong as well though. I bet the latter outweighs the former by a few. Just wait and see, oh and the goalposts are off to build a new flyover on the A34, we are due about 5 million quid as they are such nice goalposts, see that is complete bollox, and I admit to it. UP THE COBBLERS!!!
Carole at 15:42:59 Thursday December 14 2000
Gavin Gordon (who?) from Lincoln is joining Cardiff for £550,000 in a deal which could rise to £1m. He has scorded 10 goals this year. What does that mean Jamie is worth? Although come to think of it he has not scored since 18 November and that against non-league opposition. Perhaps he has shot his bolt so to speak, and whatever the transfer rumours may be, perhaps we should cash in as quick as possible.
Carl at 15:30:22 Thursday December 14 2000
So Jamies off to Reading and Bristol Rovers eh? I Know he's good but didn't know he was quite that good. Rumour monger muppets.
Inside Out at 12:55:20 Thursday December 14 2000
Martyn, that may be the case, but will he still be a Cobblers player by Saturday? Watch this space.
Martyn Boden at 9:49:55 Thursday December 14 2000
Jamie Forrester should be playing for England.
The Hatter at 9:39:9 Thursday December 14 2000
I see Luton Town are to give Vauxhall workers free tickets to their games over the Christmas. I bet the thought of that will really cheer them up! Talk about hand a loaded revolver to a suicidal man!
FRUSTRATED COBBLERS FAN at 9:33:49 Thursday December 14 2000
Let`s get rid of WILSON & see if K Broadhurst fancies a try,either that or let`s find a COMPETANT assistant manager like Kev B,all of these negative results are really starting to piss me off..............
Mark Halliwell at 9:28:36 Thursday December 14 2000
Hello again (whoops, not supposed to say that am I) To Child's View: I am the Mark Halliwell who lives in Cheltenham, but I do not stand in the Shed. As Martinw CORRECTLY SUMMISES, i STAND IN THE pADDOCK (bloody Caps Lock) at Cheltenham Town FC, but I do keep up with NTFC as MartinW is a friend of mine, even though he is Scottish. He can't help that. But he was born in Wales, which makes him very strange. I went to Sixfields last season when NT beat CT 3-2, and we have Neil Grayson, a God of his time, scorer of the goal which beat the Max Griggs No-Hopers in injury time at LegoLand two years ago HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. God I hate them. Grayson is still knocking them in for us at the age of 150 (well, 36 actually) and hopefully we will be up there in Div 2 with you lot next season, with the great man in tow. Beware of MartinW - he is very scary, especially after a few pints and a seriously hot curry, but I like his site with all the goals on it. Shame about the OG in the Cup, but I rewound the tape plenty of times so MW watched it lots of times. Sadistic I know, but fun. I'm off now - enough infiltration from rural Gloucestershire for one day. CTFC for promotion, Yeovil for the Conference, R&D for extinction and NTFC for Division One, Kevin Wilson for Pope and Jamie Forrester for the Eurovision Song Contest. Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hotel Ender at 8:46:35 Thursday December 14 2000
Sibs - re the cup draw: (although its academic cos we lost anyway). For Round 3 the first 44 numbers are the Prem clubs & Div 1 clubs in alphabetical order. The next 20 are the order in which the previous round was drawn - that's why Morecombe's number was after ours (for example), so had the blind ref not disallowed Jamie's goal we would have been in the hat against the scousers.
DavCobbler at 8:6:48 Thursday December 14 2000
Kevin Wilson has just taken ownership of his brand new, sparkling, top of the range Jaguar. He is taking Stonhill for a quick ride around Duston, showing him all the gadgets.........remote this, electric that, "it even has a voice activated radio" says Kev. Kev drives along and says to the radio......"Pop" ....low and behold.......The Spice Girls blare out. A few seconds later kev says "Classical".........wow.......Pavarotti begins his tunes. "This is amazing" says Stonhil !! "Good eh Baz" says Kev. They continue the journey through Town when some guy in a Nissan pulss out right in front of them and cuts them up. "C*nt" !! .... bellows Wilson. The radio crackles for a few seconds and then finds the correct station. "Good morning this is radio P****boro and the Barry Fry football talk-in show".
Up the Cobblers FTP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yang at 7:47:25 Thursday December 14 2000
it's me not yan
Claret Bloodbath at 0:16:13 Thursday December 14 2000
Wake up and smell the coffee luvvies !!!!!!!!!
MartinW at 23:37:4 Wednesday December 13 2000
Yup, thanks TCMP for confirming what we were figuring that Willo and Broadhurst differed in relation to tactics. It seems clear that Willo was the attacker and Broadhurst had a more cautious, closing down approach. But that's why I think they complemented each other. A bit Yin and Yan. Let's tank Oxford.
A Childs View at 23:20:32 Wednesday December 13 2000
To TCMP - many thanks for the reassurance. My concern was generated by the many comments on here indicating that we may be in trouble again, however, you've put my mind at rest. I agree the board have shown considerable commitment to the future success of our club with the signings of Gabbi and Forrester in the summer, my worry was that this had overstretched us. It was also interesting to hear you comment about possible ground expansion. I couldn't agree more and have suspected for a long time that people haven't been attending big games because they can't get seats in the right areas of the ground. Furthermore, fans want to sit together and if you can't get a few seats in a row many people may not bother. A bigger capacity would give us a larger number of 'good seats' which would undoubtedly swell attendances. Couple this with making it easier to buy a ticket and we'd be in business!! Also pleasing to hear about the improved performance, I've seen our disallowed goal and can't help feel we've been robbed of the chance to get robbed in Liverpool!! Sorry, crass regionalism at its worst!! Come on the town, 3 points at Oxford please.
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:46:23 Wednesday December 13 2000
Further to the car parking debate, the one South car park exit is pointing back towards the ground and into the traffic on the roundabout coming down from the hill, an obvious log jam! How difficult or costly would it be to put a slip/exit road from the M1 end straight onto the dual-carriageway? Thereby missing out the South stand roundabout altogether and flowing into Nene Way in the direction of M1/Mereway. Or is that a too obvious an answer? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:37:46 Wednesday December 13 2000
TCMP.. An excellent, timely and seemingly truthful response following your offer to return to answer questions posed. We cannot expect this to be a daily occurance but I think we would appreciate a similar opportunity for this website on a regular basis. Questions from all angles enabling you to answer in a oner. You reply to my Q, thank you and I ditto Hartwells response, keep us informed on the Constabulary conferences please. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Ralph at 18:21:57 Wednesday December 13 2000
Corporate Hostility now that is a thought Hartwell!
The Drilling Cobbler at 17:10:33 Wednesday December 13 2000
Excellent point Hartwell regarding the police that are there actually being better utilised. After a game is finished, you see dozens of them literally standing there as if they are waiting for trouble that usually doesnt exist to happen. If officers were stationed at all the blackspots, for example the roundabout near the away end, it would surely end the free for all that is currently the problem and more importantly eliminate that first tragic accident which will occur if the present system is not changed. TCMP, cheers for the input, very speedy and I appreciate as open and as honest as you can be in your position. Its a fresh change when people in a relatively authoritive position dont sit on the fense and express their honest feelings and opinions to issues that are of a concern to most. I can think of many MPs who would of had that kind of piece of writing proof read - quite clearly you didnt Tony unless they cant spell either! Good lad.
Hartwell at 16:9:54 Wednesday December 13 2000
I think customer relations is something that many football clubs, including the Cobblers, still haven't woken up to. They may plead they have but the reality is they, in general, still do not put their customers first and last. We are in a competitive industry - leisure -and football still scores badly in customer relations. I hate to say it but in some ways even the Saints outshine us (their corporate hostility, quid a kid and pre-match entertainment to name but three aspects).
Anon at 16:3:29 Wednesday December 13 2000
For god's sake Hartwell...you're asking them to do some work!
Hartwell at 16:2:0 Wednesday December 13 2000
Thanks Ralph and Lujton Cobbler for again highlighting the real issue regarding car parking - the time it takes to get out. The situation is at its worst when (as often happens) our games clash with the Saints. If the police want to actually help the club and its fans rather than hinder them, then here's two positive steps they could take 1 - make representations to both clubs urging them to at least stagger KO times 2 - use some of their excess of policemen and women on point duty at both exits to the stadium. A copper on both exit r/abouts would make a real difference. Apart from anything else it would give a few of them something useful to do on match days.
g at 15:54:24 Wednesday December 13 2000
Is it possible to have the clock/scoreboard mended before the next home match? Somehow a broken clock does not give an impression of professionalism.
Luton Cobbler at 14:36:19 Wednesday December 13 2000
TCMP - Ralph's point regarding the issue of clearing the car parks is a totally valid one.Parking at Sixfields is with out doubt the worst in the division. Yes it's accessible but if it takes upto 45 minutes to get out what benefit is that.Most fans would rather have a 15 minute walk to their car if it meant a quicker get away. With a little bit of assistance from the police and traffic wardens, the car parks could be cleared quickly as access away once out of them is second to none. It seems more to be a complete lack of co-operation again from Mr Plod that makes life more difficult for all fans visiting Sixfields. If it's a problem now, how will it be if we do ever extend the ground. This is an issue I believe most fans would appreciate you taking up again
Person at 14:12:45 Wednesday December 13 2000
Thanks TCMP, by my reckoning there must be a considerable amount to make up between gate money and operating costs.
Ralph at 14:5:53 Wednesday December 13 2000
TCMP - Thanks for the info. Re: car parking, nothing wrong with the car parking, I agree it's probably as good if not better than most, it's moving the bugger after the game that's the problem. You'd think that the Police/Stewards could come up with a scheme that controls and clears the traffic. Surely it is better for safety to have the area cleared within half an hour of the final whistle than have it drag on for an hour or so. Or perhaps they move in to double time after five!
The Shropshire Cobbler at 13:56:34 Wednesday December 13 2000
Good point Hartwell - if the Club treated us as CUSTOMERS, and sorted out all aspects that people grumble about (ticketing arrangements, car parking, delays in being able to leave the car park etc), I'm sure we would get significantly better attendances. What's worse that a customer that moans? - one that doesn't, just votes with his feet. It's there for all to see with this season's attendances. Not resolving these issues must lose NTFC a lot of revenue. Anyway, thanks to TCMP for his comments, please keep us posted. Up the Cobbs.
Paul S at 13:35:29 Wednesday December 13 2000
Sibs, I think that the numbers were assigned to the home team of the tie BEFORE the saturday matches. Prem teams would, of course, appear alphabetically, but away winners in the second round would be out of order.
Ray at 12:42:21 Wednesday December 13 2000
Re: VIRUSes. I put out a warning about this yesterday to the WALOC news group. I have a fix (but the safest way is to delete the email) IBM are a bit late with the news - this has been about for ages.
Hartwell at 12:21:56 Wednesday December 13 2000
Many thanks, Tony, for the update on the police/ticketing arrangements. I agree, and am as keen as you to see the stadium extended. However it would be a pointless exercise if the present policy were to remain in place. Any expansion would be to the benefit of the casual fan. But if, as at present, they can't get a ticket on the day, they are not going to turn up because the casual fan does not buy in advance (if they did many of them would have season tickets). And we need to attract more casual support - because they provide vital additional revenue. It's great that we have so many season ticket holders. We are the ones who pay the bread and butter costs and keep the club afloat. But it's the casual fans who provide the much-needed additional revenue. Its they who put the icing on the cake. To that end they must be seen as very important to the club, not just branded "fair weather fans" as though they were to be tolerated and no more. By their nature, they probably only want to take in the better games - the very ones the police's all-ticketing policy makes it impossible for them to get tickets for at short notice. No wonder our gates are down. I have spoken to several people who come up to Sixfields maybe five or six times a season and who are now not even bothering to try to get tickets as it is too inconvenient. What other business would actually make it difficult for the customer to buy their product - even if it was only one purchase a year? It's nuts.
John Bridges at 12:4:51 Wednesday December 13 2000
VIRUS ALERT If you receive an email with a file called "Snow White" do not open the file. The file contains the virus. This information was announced yesterday morning by IBM. The report says that "this is a very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa" and there is NO remedy for it at this time. Some very sick individual has succeeded in using the reformat function from Norton Utilities causing it to completely erase all dll recovery files on the hard drive. It has been designed to work with Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. It destroys Macintosh and IBM compatible computers. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it at this time. Please pass this warning to everyone in your address book and share it with all your online friends asap so that the destruction it can cause may be minimized.
Sibs at 11:35:17 Wednesday December 13 2000
Anon 12:32.51 Dec 11. Don't care what you think about my postings, either point out where i'm wrong or agree it's true, i'm only going on what i was told, it's the numbered balls that are drawn not the team names, we would have been a different number to rotherham. (Why else would arsenal be no.1 and ManU no.25...) It's irrelivant as we didn't progress but i was pointing out that the next round for us would have not gained us as much money (Home Tot compared to Away Liv) but maybe we would have had a better chance of progressing further...
TCMP at 11:18:19 Wednesday December 13 2000
OK, I will try to answer the questions raised so far. Drilling Cobbler, BS was just being honest in saying that we were hoping for a cup run to help improve the finances after last years loss. As for selling players, well I think we would resist most aproaches if we felt that it was not in the best interests of the club,(remember if you sell you usually end up buying to replace) However it would be dishonest not to suggest that if the price was right we would have to consider any offer for any player, that is the game, you buy you sell and you build the club. But the current rumours are very much over the top. We know that certain clubs have a soft spot for certain of our players but the transfer market (with the exception of Rio Ferdinand) is pretty flat at the minute because of the transfer debate. Also I am sorry about my little dig at the opposition, I know it's wrong but sometimes I am a bad lad and I forget myself. Ralph, Yes car parking is still a problem and I think retail outlets issuing tickets are not helping as many people use the services of both them and the club on a Saturday. But parking is still better at Sixfields than most other clubs in the league, you just can't provide enough spaces for that number of people. Yesterday's match off announcement was late but we had to wait for the pitch inspection. Personaly I think the pitch is in top condition and would not want to risk that for the sake of one game.Deepcut Cobbler/Hartwell, the talks with the police are ongoing, I am as frustrated as the next man/woman that we have not reached an understanding yet, but we will continue to push for change. Paddington the accounts are available at the club AGM. However as with Walsall and Lincoln's published figures they only tell half the story. For reasons I am sure you will understand we cannot reveal individual's wages and other contractual payments, but if you want a feel of the overall picture it is easy to construct. First the wage bill in total (with staff) is around £1.7m the club recieves 75% of every ticket sold at the gate, and any shortfall between the two has to made up through the commercial activities and one offs ( ie cup runs, transfers, donations and money from individual board members and the Trust)I hope this helps. Martin W. No hidden secrets re KB leaving although as Kev has said they did disagree over tactics. The truth is that the KW/KB partnership was a creation of the board following IA's departure and KW felt it was time for him to have his own team around him, a fair enough request from the manager in my view. Hope I have not forgotten anyone and I will return later for more Cheers TCMP
PATTCOBB at 10:55:38 Wednesday December 13 2000
WHAT A CRAP NIGHT BEER BUT NO COBBS!!!! ANYWAY ONLY 10(TEN) DAYS TO BORO TIME TO DUST DOWN THE OLD XMAS CAROLS FOLKS........."NOEL,NOEL,NOEL.NOOOOEEEEELLLLL NOEL WAS THAT B*STARD THEY CALLED CANTWELL" AND "HARK NOW HERE THE COBBLERS SING ,THE BORO RAN AWAY AND WE WILL FIGHT FOR EVER MORE BECAUSE OF BOXING DAY"(THE DO-GOODERS MAY CHANGE "FIGHT" FOR "WIN"
Ray at 0:36:41 Wednesday December 13 2000
TCMP - could you possibly give me a ring sometime when convenient. I've lost your home number.
MartinW at 23:55:33 Tuesday December 12 2000
TCMP, you say there is nothing hidden and there is no secret agenda and that you will answer any question that people feel is still unanswered. In which case, can I ask the burning question from my point of view. What exactly was it that caused Willo and Broadhurst to fall out to such an extent that Broadhurst felt it necessary to go. Because this has undoubtedly had an effect on the team in recent weeks. And please don't trot out the official PR line of differences of opinion. Many fans would want to know what those differences were because there is loads of speculation floating around. I heard that Willo had felt Broadhurst was undermining him by talking to directors and asking for certain players to be released so when the Derby job came up Kev said it's him or me. But of course, that's pure groundless speculation and chat that has been kicking around and there are many other theories kicking around. Simply because we've not been levelled with. And as many people are beginning to believe Broadhurst had a greater influence on things that some would have us believe, it is important to set the record straight. But TC, surely you don't believe that in the real world we fans believe that officials will say anything that will damage the present hierarchy. They'll wait till he or she has gone. As with Atkins.
Anon at 23:10:13 Tuesday December 12 2000
I suspect the fact that we play in a council owned stadium means that the council will/must heed to the say so of the police. It is a nonsense but as with most beuracratic institutions I expect no change in ticketing policy.
Hartwell at 21:57:19 Tuesday December 12 2000
TRB Mark - yes that's exactly what I've been banging on about for sometime as well. What's the use of expanding the ground (as TCMP says is a priority) if the police are allowed to continue to make it damn near impossible for the casual fan to obtain tickets - and totally impossible on the day, which is excactly whehn most casual fans make a decision. I have long wondered why the police are allowed such levels of control over the internal affairs of a perfectly legal company. How many other p;rivate companies would tolerate such a level of interference. The present restrictions imposed by the police are tantamount to a restriction on fair trade. It's about time they were well and truly contested. As you rightly say they impose these draconian restrictions - then let in large groups of away fans when they turn up without tickets.
Lancaster Cobbler at 21:48:57 Tuesday December 12 2000
Yeah, especially as a Walsall unofficial site has a copy of the accounts, as does Lincolns?? Official Site. Thing is it should be available from Companies House, although whether it is acessible London i am not sure.
Person at 21:42:23 Tuesday December 12 2000
I agree with Paddington, and don't feel fantastically informed about state of finances and never have, i don't attend trust meetings as i don't live in Northampton. With the exception of 93, i have never known the true money situation. I don't expect detailed weekly info maybe just a 6 monthly gauge of finances, it would make you feel more involved especially when the club starts to appear in trouble again.
Lancasrer Cobbler at 21:37:8 Tuesday December 12 2000
TRB Mark no Gabbiadini will miss the Pish game as suspensions take place two weeks after the offence, unless of course the game gets called off, which means he would miss the Bristol City game which will be our first game at home for 24 days!!
TRB Mark at 21:14:37 Tuesday December 12 2000
It's blatently obvious that the police are using match days as an excuse to bump up the overtime. And what use are they? They sit on their a**ses when the surrounding roads grind to a halt after the game and on the rare occassins that there is trouble, they are letiing the away hooligans in( for free no doubt) while their very "all ticket" policy is keeping decent Cobblers fans away. They are draining us from both ends.
Paddington at 21:11:36 Tuesday December 12 2000
TCMP, I agree with most of your comments but would say that as inviduals we are probably not the best informed fans on club finances. Those clubs which are public companies by necessity provide a lot more financial info to the general public than clubs like the Cobbs. I assume that the Trust, as a sizeable shareholder, gets access to the current balance sheet. However, that info doesn't appear to be passed on to Trust members. Actually, I'd appreciate a periodic update on the clubs financial health. It may help fans understand better the rigours of trying to balance the books.
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:58:14 Tuesday December 12 2000
For TCMP. You mention the amount lost due to lack of capacity but it has been mentioned numerous times on here that the failure to capture or the turning away of the casual supporter due to all ticket matches is a major problem. This always reduces the on the day attendance and puts off the casual from returning. Has the local constabulary been approached ref a revision to their ticketing policy and numbers of them in attendance at games? The latter being funded by the club also. If not, have more accessible locations for purchasing tickets been indentified (town centre, Mk or surrounding areas). It has been worked out by some that hundreds of thousands in revenue could and is being lost through this heavy handed ticketing and policing policy. I know we enjoy relatively trouble free matches but is this entirely due the police approach or the way society is now? Some of the matches on all ticket status do not have a historical relevance, how is that decided? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
TRB Mark at 20:25:0 Tuesday December 12 2000
Does this postponment mean that Gabbi will be available for the pooh game?
MOLEMAN at 20:17:7 Tuesday December 12 2000
The fact is our stadium is at the bottom of the hill which is gonna lead to poor drainage! As for the teams current state its not too bad just bein unlucky as Wilo said.Unfortunatley cant get to Oxford on saturday but good luck to the lads.Will be at Boro away and rest of the home games as i got me season ticket! Get all ur mates down to sixfields and lets have a sellout for once! Come on town were good enough to go up!! COME ON COBBLERS
Wis at 19:53:5 Tuesday December 12 2000
Well if this pitch was barely playable prior to kick-off, the torrential rain falling in Northampton presently would surely have put pay to the game finishing had it started.
Ralph at 19:4:10 Tuesday December 12 2000
CARL - Why the cap 's' in sell out, no apostrophe in 'dont', no space in 'purse string', or grammar of 'visiting supporter who are', 'thier' instead of their and finally no full points after etc. Seriously though thanks to TCMP for taking the time to comment. Can I just ask about car parking which still remains a concern and may also contribute to low attendances. If the ground is to extended surely so must the car parking. I no longer use the official car parks, the retail outlets have begun sticking parking tickets on football vehicles and I find myself parking up in Duston which still proves quicker than using the official options.
Mad4it at 18:53:17 Tuesday December 12 2000
PS the penpal thing is still on anyone who's intrested 20 male in Northampton here !! UP the cobblers (Jamie Jamie Ffffforrrresttter)
Mad4it at 18:51:42 Tuesday December 12 2000
Damn why is it that we never get shown on TV such as highlights of matches ! yet last time we were in Div2 posh were in Div3 and still got preferred to us why ? WHEN we get promoted to Div1 is anyone going to take any notice of us or do we get put to the backburner yet again i think its a .....conspiracy ? hum ?
Hartwell at 18:44:49 Tuesday December 12 2000
With no game all we can do is come on here! Thanks to Tony Clarke for that update on the club's affairs. I was very interested to see that ground expansion is still a priority and have to agree in the long run that this will benefit us. However, right now, I sometimes question the town's enthusiasm for its football club. We are promoted, sign some good new players and have generally provided some excellent entertainment - and some very healthy results, despite the recent fall-off. Yet crowds are down on last season. The all-ticketing arrangements have, for sure, been one of the main reasons for this - probably the prime reason. If we are able to finance the expansion of Sixfields and can as a result get sane ticketing system in place, then it will be interesting to see how the town responds. If we continue to play good, attractive, football and maintain a healthy league position, and we have a ground with spare capacity and actually encourage and entice the casual fans along, we should see gates rise substantially. We are after all a very large town with a further big catchment area.
The Drilling Cobbler at 18:37:39 Tuesday December 12 2000
Just a thought about tonights match being postponed. Why was there no mention of a pitch inspection on ceefax or in tonights chron? I only learnt that the fixture was in doubt from reading comments posted on here at about 4:30 this afternoon. There wasnt even anything on the official news, just the possibility of tomorrows youth team game being postponed. The swansea fans would have all left latest at around 3:30/4:00pm - most probably having little idea that the game was in doubt. Personnally I think its another example of poor communication from the club - something that they have been very guilty of on numerous occasions in the past. A question I have for TCMP - If their is no crisis, could you explain the comments made by Barry Stonhill with regards to reviewing certain things if we lost at Rotherham and were eliminated from the F A Cup - obviously this has happened so what exactly is going to be reviewed, and is it likely that a sale is imminent to balance the books? And why refer to politics on a football website - I'm a "tory", but I still dont send my children to private school because I disagree with private education for children from "priviliged" backgrounds. Have a word with Sally - shes a bloody hypocrit! ( Is that how you spell it?) No offence intended Tone - I/m sure you agree with me.
Carl at 18:12:59 Tuesday December 12 2000
I only have one comment on TCMPs comments, did you have it proof read and then get your Secretary to type it in for you, as people normally knock your spelling but there appears to have been none in that one, well done!! :-)
Ray at 17:26:41 Tuesday December 12 2000
Tonights mach is OFF - Waterlogged pitch.
Paul H at 17:18:46 Tuesday December 12 2000
Match Off
TCMP at 17:17:35 Tuesday December 12 2000
Thought I would make a timely input to recent postings. As always I repeat that I log on at least 2 to 3 times a week to catch up with the views and news but I purposely do not comment all the while as I believe my job is to represent the fans view to the board and not to initiate it by constant inputs. However I felt it neccasary to respond to "A CHILDS VIEW" comments on finance last Saturday, he says "how difficult can it be? simply do not commit to financial liabilities that cannot be covered" Well he is absolutly correct and thats why finances are so tight. We have continued to run a tight ship ever since those dark days pre administration and its our prudence that makes it so difficult. No crisis. No return to the bad old days. And no return to keeping fans in the dark. Supporters of NTFC are the best informed fans in the country which makes it difficult to swallow the "give us more information" or "the club must comment" calls. The truth is all out there already. ie Relegation to the 3rd and keeping the squad together to achieve a speedy return cost us £400,000. In addition we have took a gamble in bringing in new talent to entertain the fans, ie Forrester, Hargreaves, Hodge Sollitt, Gabbiadini etc etc, and gates are down despite the good start to the season. But the Board as has always been the case is managing the situation and putting thier money where thier mouth is to see us through. Fans should really start to worry if we comment that there are no money worries and hide the realities of running the club on a tight budget. Of course we need to cut our cloth according to our pursestring and that means not closing your eyes to any available option. The most positive thing that can happen is for our efforts to secure a ground expansion to bear fruit, as the sure way to increase revenue is to make more room available for those Sell out games or visiting supporter who are turned away because of ticket restrictions. Dont believe the fools who say "Expand? you cant fill the ground you have got" The truth is that we have missed out on hundreds of thousands of pounds through our inability to make the most of those "big games" and to attract the casual supporter. Any way to prove my point that nothing is hidden and there is no secret agenda, I will as always stay around today and tommorrow to answer any question that people feel is still unanswered. Finally I thought the team were terrific on Saturday and the prophets of doom should be a little less keen to jump on opportunistic bandwagons (must be the Tory wing of the fan base!). This season was always going to be tough and you have to take the rough with the smooth, there will be games like Saturday that we deserve to win and don't and others that we don't deserve to win and do. cheers TCMP .....STOP PRESS..... The club just phoned tonights game has just been called OFF waterlogged pitch , hows that for up to the minute news....
Anon at 17:12:44 Tuesday December 12 2000
Shove yer stupid fucking rumours up yer arse and get to Sixfields, with a friend or 2 and lets bump the gates up!!!!!!
Kevan Broadhurst at 17:8:7 Tuesday December 12 2000
Slot Savo in at right back. Play Marco in the middle. Put Jamie and Stevo up front. Pack the midfield. Best of luck boys. Don't forget those set pieces, they've been crap since I left.
Anon at 17:5:19 Tuesday December 12 2000
Is the game on or not will the club be making a posting?
JPC at 17:2:55 Tuesday December 12 2000
any news on whether the game is on yet?
Preview on the BBc website at 16:53:56 Tuesday December 12 2000
On-loan striker Daryl Clare is in the frame to return for Northampton Town, after being cup-tied for the FA Cup second round defeat at Rotherham.
The Grimsby forward will bolster a Cobblers squad that has several injuries, most notably to skipper John Frain who is still missing with a niggling hamstring problem.
A Northampton spokesman said: "Apart from John Frain we are also missing John Hodge who is suffering from bad bruising and Mark Maley who is out with a thigh strain."
At the other end of the field Adam Sollitt will continue to deputise in goal for Keith Welch, who is still nursing a calf-strain.
Sending-off
John Hollins is quietly confident as his team travel to Sixfields for their Second Division clash with the Cobblers.
Swansea will be without 23-year-old defender Jason Price after he tweaked his knee in training, but Hollins remains hopeful Price will return to the squad quickly.
Swansea's Matthew Bound serves the last of his three-match suspension following his sending-off at Oxford United.
Hollins will also be without long-term casualty Jonathan Coates who is suffering from a knee ligament injury he sustained in the match against Rotherham in October.
Although the visitors go into the fixture 13 places behind Northampton, the Swansea coach remains optimistic.
Hollins said: "I feel fine going into the match, quite confident."
Bernard Matthews at 16:41:9 Tuesday December 12 2000
Any chance we could slaughter Clarence in time for Christmas? His arse is in fact so large we could get many rump steaks out of it. That would help the club finances!
Vince at 16:33:47 Tuesday December 12 2000
With the clubs current high wage bill and the lower than hoped for gates I suspect that any game could be any players last game for NTFC. Forrester is the obvious choice because of his goal scoring record this season so The Insider and all his or her fellow speculators are sure to be right about something sooner or later. My guess is that Clarence the Dragon will be sold to R&D's as cover for Turley - he has the same attributes, a fat arse and contributes nothing to the game.
Anon at 15:56:59 Tuesday December 12 2000
The real insider-no they will still be playing for us then too!
Rachel at 15:52:19 Tuesday December 12 2000
Hartwell-of corse!
The real insider at 15:46:52 Tuesday December 12 2000
It is rumored that all current first team members will no longer be with the club by 2032.
Ray at 15:1:50 Tuesday December 12 2000
Just spoken to the Club. The pitch is currently barely playable and no-one is holding out any great hopes of the game going ahead. The ref will arrive at 5 o'clock and an announcement will be made at that time.
Carl at 14:53:2 Tuesday December 12 2000
Probably trying to dry the rain before it lands!
Claudette at 14:48:4 Tuesday December 12 2000
Went by Sixfield at 8:10 this morning and the floodlights were already on! Why could this be I thought. 1) Early morning pitch inspection, 2) Wilson planning an early training session, 3) early kick off to prevent supporters seeing how bad we currently are, 4)a cost saving measure on stewards and turnstile operators, 5) my 24 hour watch was on the blink and it really was the evening - if so did we win?
Carl at 14:43:58 Tuesday December 12 2000
Thanks for that bit of 'inside' knowledge. What is the point in saying stuff like that? Is it because when he goes you can later boast about it, by saying 'told you so'? What happens when it doesn't come true though do you just disappear and put comments under yet another name. Just curious that is all.
Inside Out at 14:37:28 Tuesday December 12 2000
This could be Jamie Forresters last game for the Cobblers. I am aware of one club that are to take a final look at him tonight and then make a bid later this week.
Ralph at 14:35:5 Tuesday December 12 2000
I spoke to the club at midday and they told me no specific pitch inspection was planned and this evening's game is on.
PATTCOBB at 13:47:10 Tuesday December 12 2000
We've been lucky with the weather/state of pitch so far this season,but i fear that tonights game will be in serious doubt........I don't know about you but Cobblers is still one of the highlights of the week,its so frustrating not knowing whether the game is on or off,in many ways its difficult to get "up" for games when this is the case
Vince at 13:11:58 Tuesday December 12 2000
...and even without a drink it's easy to confuse i's with o's and n's with m's!!!
Vince at 13:6:46 Tuesday December 12 2000
On the subject of players and diets it's noticable that since TV cook Deliah Smith got involved woth the catering at Norwich the players have hardly been pulling up trees - too much mascapone cheese, greek yoghurt and balsanic vinegar? It surprises me how little control clubs have over players and what they eat and drink - anyone who sees some NTFC players out on the town will wonder how they are fit to play for several days after. The wednesday night before the game against Halifax last season a good number of the squad were "hammered". The result may have had nothing to do with that but it does make you wonder.
London Cobbler at 12:25:14 Tuesday December 12 2000
How wet is the pitch ? Is it raining now ? Is there more rain forecast this afternoon ?
Hartwell at 12:14:36 Tuesday December 12 2000
Rachel - looks like the lads are on a good, healthy, sportsman's diet!
TRB Mark at 10:5:17 Tuesday December 12 2000
C'mon Poshie, stop trying to wind our Ray up.
Shopper at 9:54:24 Tuesday December 12 2000
As I thought, no response we carry on with crap no wonder the Club is in the state it is you say you make the decisions Ray bloody do something about it whats the design cost you should know it fits in your arse pocket.You blame everything but the fact that you cant be bothered what about the old pictures with the kids on them. Give the Official site to someone like young Dave Nickel or Sid at least they try to put forward a contemporary image.
Shopper at 9:29:28 Tuesday December 12 2000
They're expensive enough as it is if you can't do the job properly then give it to someone who can. When is it going to sink in that second rate service from an Organisation that's trying to bleed cash from you like the f**king Picture Gallery crap HOW much to view a picture of a player !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when you can't even make a valued decision on a bloody shirt size as its worn by an adult when you're buying for a child astounds belief. I read the quote underneath Kevvies piccie stating what a great service it was for those who can't get down to the shop well Mr Ray the Charity Webmaster whats the answer? Don't ask me I want to put funds into the Club all you want to do is go on like a wounded heffer.Lose your ego if you aint up to it then let someone else do it or stop bloody whineing and get some cash out the Club so our 3rd rate site can at least become 2nd rate. Bloody excuses are we farting against thunder here or what ?
Paul S at 9:26:2 Tuesday December 12 2000
Martin have you seen the actual footage of the disallowed goal? where was it on TV. Certainly not on bloody useless Look Norwich where we saw Marcus Stewart score his goal about five times and had a lovely view of the Norwich training ground, interview and goals from Cambridge, but as usual nothing from the Cobblers match, even though BBC have rights to the FA cup matches.
Ray at 8:51:48 Tuesday December 12 2000
If you woul care to donate a few grand to sponsor the site to the end of the season when the NTL deal kicks in, then please feel free to contact me. The instructions for looking at photographs were, I felt fairly clear and I took the decision to show the same first team shirt for all of the options and sizes, Would you rather not have had any picture at all? All photographs are copyright and the Club has to pay for each and everyone used which doesnt come cheap. Which would you rather do - pay more for the goods and have an individual photo of each size or stick with the present system? Choose now!!
Shopper at 8:33:39 Tuesday December 12 2000
The Official site is a piece of crap just like the fellas said the other day.It gives the impression that the Cobbs are a two bit outfit..wanna buy a junior shirt for your kid for xmas ? check out the picture once you've worked out how to get to it for a size comparison.The only link between it and a small Junior is the bald head on the model!!! Cheapskate rubbish and way too many excuses yawn
RaChEl at 20:41:22 Monday December 11 2000
I had Jamie Forrester + James Hunt standing next to me in the que for burger etc @ Millwall, the funny thing was I didn't notice them, I even near enough looked them straight in the eye! I felt a right idiot when my mum pointed them out to me!
Hartwell at 20:15:30 Monday December 11 2000
Suggest you check the game's still on before leaving tomorrow, Mike Jack. the pitch is very wet right now but playable. however there's a lot of rain forecast tomorrow. at best bring your wellies! incidentally if, as seedms likely, it's wet tomorrow night, that will be the fifth game running i'll have got wet walking to sixfields from the car park (missed the swindon game - was it dry?).
MartinW at 20:4:3 Monday December 11 2000
Clearly we were robbed of a draw.
Forrester's headed goal was well onside - as anyone who has seen the action will testify.
All I ask from the Swansea game is commitment from the players, coherent tactics and a persistence with the Forrester/Howard combination which has always reaped dividends for us.
Get in there Cobblers!!!
Mike Jack at 19:48:19 Monday December 11 2000
Never visited Sixfields before but looking forward to the game tomorrow night..We're both playing pants at the moment so may the best/least worst team win, personally I think a draw is on the cards..
Apologies for the self styled boot boy below..It's this sort of clown that makes having a drink and a bit of banter with home fans a real hassle for the majority of us...
Good luck for the rest of the season..
Mike
DavCobbler at 19:18:8 Monday December 11 2000
Ahem Mr Swansea Boot boy Sir........ever considered who made the boots huh ??? Of you go now sonny and get yer homework done. Maybe we will see you tomorrow night ????? Nah, didn't think so..........Pr!ck
Paul at 18:43:27 Monday December 11 2000
Great news this dude didn't bother us until now. When we beat them tomorrow night they won't come back soon!
Anon at 18:31:58 Monday December 11 2000
Here's some education for an inbred taff - don't hit 'okay' twice.
Swansea Boot Boy at 17:5:16 Monday December 11 2000
where's me other message gorn?
Swansea Boot Boy at 17:3:55 Monday December 11 2000
I'm back again trying to educate you thick English. What do you think the score will be tomorrow night? We're playing shit but we'll probably beat you (unless you cheat again).
Swansea Boot Boy at 17:3:11 Monday December 11 2000
I'm back again trying to educate you thick English. What do you think the score will be tomorrow night? We're playing shit but we'll probably beat you (unless you cheat again).
Now I am really upset at 16:56:42 Monday December 11 2000
Where we could have gone: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/liverpol.htm
Where we are going: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/brentford.htm
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:38:51 Monday December 11 2000
Just to cheer everyone up, I have e-mailed the club and if we had beaten Rotherham we would have played lIverpool as the balls are allocated on Friday. That ref has cost us 45% of (600,000ish) so that is £240,000, thanks alot Rotherham and referee
STAR SPOTTING at 15:38:37 Monday December 11 2000
WELL NO 1 COBBLER I SAW DARYL CLARE IN ABINGTON STREET,BUT THIS WAS ON THURSDAY
Carl at 12:58:39 Monday December 11 2000
For all those interested. England have just BEATEN then Pakistanis at Cricket in the final test to win the series 1 - 0.
Anon at 12:32:51 Monday December 11 2000
Sibs - I've seen some sad pastings on here but thats the worst.
Paul S at 10:58:6 Monday December 11 2000
Of course, if we'd equalised we would still have drawn Liverpool. Now that would have been an exciting match at Sixfields
Sibs at 10:26:25 Monday December 11 2000
Not wanting to be picky.... but... we would NOT have got liverpool in the next round... i belive we would of been a different number coz they are alphabetical.. we would have been alphabetically infront of northwich/thingy replay and so bumped them and all after down a number and we would have drawn TOTTENHAM at HOME!!
chris at 10:12:27 Monday December 11 2000
its crap
Ray at 9:34:33 Monday December 11 2000
Sites where you can download logos and ring tones: http://www.monstermob.com http://www.bluebolt.com The latter is free but has a greatly reduced selection.
Anon at 9:32:30 Monday December 11 2000
What was he wondering about?
No1 Cobbler at 8:56:54 Monday December 11 2000
I saw Jamie Forrester in town yesterday. He was wondering along Gold Street. I said hello to him.
Anon at 8:53:44 Monday December 11 2000
Splat, look for it under "Oh Christmas Tree"
MartinW at 0:48:53 Monday December 11 2000
AChild's View, I think it is the very same Mark Halliwell. He is trying to infiltrate this page by pretending he is a Cobblers fan when he is a total Cheltenham fan. And he stands in the Paddock, when he is not playing at being sports editor. Ha ha. I think Ray should edit the site so that his offensive 'hello' is struck from the record. Quite clearly that kind of friendly greeting is just not the sort of thing we want to see written here.
Nothing wrong with the Robins, though. Oh no, that was too nice.
Bloody hate the Robins, load of redbreasted sh"$%s who are renowned for silly celebrations and daft songs about the inability to read or write not really mattering, because they all come from Cheltenhamshire and they can drive a tractor. Oooh aaar!
Hope they get promotion. Damn, being nice again.
For the record, I'm on a refusing to update the CobblersinVision site until such time as we score an actual league goal.
I'm afraid the Hughes own goal was embarrassing.
And I had to endure a lot of teasing about that and rewinding of tape so that it can be shown again and again.
Willo, do you know what that is LIKE?
Sort it out.... PLEEEEEEEEASE!
A Childs View at 23:38:38 Sunday December 10 2000
Thanks to all those adding comments about the improved performance against Rotherham - I feel quite positive about Swansea and Oxford now and hope 6 points will be our return. To the anon who followed my previous entry - what did you find so offensive that it warranted you asking me to leave the country? It all seemed fairly reasonable to me and nobody else seems upset? Also, why not own up to who you are - scared of a rational debate I suspect! Anyway, say what you like as there are plenty on here who make it well worthwhile dropping in from time to time! Mark Halliwell? - Would that be the same Mark Halliwell who resides in Cheltenham and stands in the Shed? Let me know!!
Stewpot at 23:37:32 Sunday December 10 2000
So the burning question is who plays in goal on Tuesday what with Welch, Sollitt and third goalie injured do we carry on or do we get someone in for the short term? Could Alex O Reilly be brought back?..........cfould Spink put in an appearence.............or could the now free Woody return?????????? Those of you who play the computer football management games like myself if anyone has UEFA Manager 2000 someone tell me how to make an in match substitution the only time I can make a sub is at half time. I got the Town promoted from division 3 as champions and am happily trotting along in division 2.
RaChEl at 22:3:44 Sunday December 10 2000
If we'd beaten Rotherham yesterday we would have got Liverpool in the next round!!!! Its soooo not fair!
Anon at 21:48:0 Sunday December 10 2000
Another armchair supporter Neil? Get your arse in gear and actually go to a match mate!
Carl at 20:9:10 Sunday December 10 2000
Neil, were you at the game yesterday. If so, and you call that a poor performance what the hell do they have to do to be good. Yesterday a 3 - 0 win would have been a fair reflection of the performance given. There are not many games I come away from, when we lose, when it affects my Saturday night out, but yesterday was one of them. To be completely honest in the second half we ran them ragged, scored a goal that WASN'T offside, hit a post. It was brilliant, a great game of football if you are a Cobblers supporter, apart from the result. We should all take heart from that performance, we haven't lost any skill, commitment or anything else, but when you are down in the dumps you get a right good kick in the teeth from lady luck. Sadly I can't go on Tuesday, I live away from Northampton and it is difficult for midweek games, but take as many friends and stuff you can, 'cause hopefully we are back. UP THE COBBLERS!!!!!!!
Neil Egerton at 19:30:25 Sunday December 10 2000
Since Kevan Broadhurst left we have been poor, hopefully wilson can get his act together and and get us a win on Tuesday night! Surely the board will sell someone evntually, im betting on Forrester going for Peanuts! also Good luck to arsenal against Carlisle!! Every1 get down to sixfields on Tuesday and lets SING OUR HEARTS OUT FOR THE LADS! COME ON COBBLERS!!
MP at 19:19:17 Sunday December 10 2000
Question for Northampton Gas. Do you know anything about a bid Rovers are said to have made last week for our Jamie? I know it wasn't enough money, any idea how much it was?
Mad4it at 19:12:17 Sunday December 10 2000
Can U believe it We WOULD have played LIVERPOOL now i am not a liverpool supporter but my dad is i follow the cobbs as does he but he likes the scousers too what a match Forrester V Heskey at anfield !!! well never mind we will keep dreaming? PS im after a penpal anyone intrested my american one has disappeared? i am male 20 from Northampton cya up the Cobblers !
Lancaster Cobbler at 19:9:50 Sunday December 10 2000
Our part-time goal keeper coach is now caretaker manager at Forest Green, you've heard of Two Jags Prescott, it is now Three Management Jobs Spink!
Lancaster Cobbler at 18:37:26 Sunday December 10 2000
Okay do we are not in the third round of the cup, what is the board goign to review? Are their bids on the table for any of our players? It would not surprise me if a player leaves Sixfields soon to balance the books, but who?
splat at 18:31:32 Sunday December 10 2000
We would have been a number, therfore would not have drawn Liverpool. Knowing our luck Walsall or Morecambe! Come on, its not the end of the world, "we can now concentrate on the league, as that is the real bread and butter". Come on Oldham! Sodding Pineapple scored in last minute to earn a replay, Get behind the lads on Tuesday, we're due a win sometime......!!!
splat at 18:27:51 Sunday December 10 2000
Hey, can anyone help me. I brought a nokia 3210 a few months ago and really want to put Fields of green/red flag on as the "tune" after hours of scouring nokia ringtone websites I am still unable to find the sodding tune! it must be avavilable somewhere, does anyone know it, PLEASE!?!
Paul at 18:7:57 Sunday December 10 2000
This was our year to go to Liverpool, man I'm gutted right now!
Liverpooooooooooool at 18:6:19 Sunday December 10 2000
Oh shit!!!!!!!!
Mark Halliwell at 17:40:49 Sunday December 10 2000
Hello
Exiled Cobbler at 15:35:18 Sunday December 10 2000
I was at Rother ham to see the match. A dissapointing result of course but was heartened by the performance especially second half. The own goal was unlucky it could have happened to anyone. Unfortuantely it happened to Hughes which is not going to do his confidence any better at the moment. In my opinion i thought that Sollitt should have claimed the ball but whats done is done. In our favour we did create a lot of chances. We had two very good appeals for penalties both turned down and also a debateable goal disallowed. I'd like to see the replay of that. My main gripe for the game was how we wasted Gabbiadini on the right wing. He looked knackered by halfway through the first half. Surely he would have been better utilised playing just behind Forrester and Howard and putting the ball through. Still best performance for a few matches and with a bit of luck we would have been in the hat today. Anyway lets hope we can end our bad run on tuesday.
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:5:48 Sunday December 10 2000
A much better performance yesterday - the football we played in the 2nd half was at times sublime and quite honestly we made the 2nd best team in the division look very average. We deserved a draw at the very least, and on the balance of play if we had come away with a 2-0 win Rotherham could not have complained. For the first time in weeks we looked like a 'team' - each player seemed to have a specific job to do for themselves AND their colleagues and just as importantly the passion was back in their play. We won most 50/50 balls, passed the ball rather than just hit and hope, and forced Rotherham into mass defending. Credit where credits due, I have been possibly more critical than most after recent events, but we can have no complaints about yesterdays effort. I just hope that the players take heart and maintain that level of performance on Tuesday night and for the weeks and months ahead.
Anon at 10:51:21 Sunday December 10 2000
Once Savage has been taught how to chip, will he be shown how to batter?
g at 10:23:5 Sunday December 10 2000
Well I, for one, came away from the Rotherham game heartened. We pressed and harassed and looked a totally different side from the one who played the last few matches. Everyone tried hard and it was a shame Hughes sliced into the goal,the good thing was it didn't dent his confidence and he certainly tried to make up for it. But what about the back pass to their goalie which he picked up? The hand ball in the penalty area? And the off side goal? The Rotherham manager said they didn't play their best because they have had three matches in a week -didn't we have five in fifteen days? Why is everyone in Cobblers so selfless when they get near goal, passing to others rather than taking the shot themselves? Please someone teach Savage how to chip. Looking forward to the refreshed team on Tuesday -UP THE COBBLERS!
MK Cobbler at 8:57:14 Sunday December 10 2000
Rumours of lack of funds are flying around again. I cannot remember a time when it was not so but for a quid a week why doesn't everyone here join the revamped Gold bond Scheme. If you convert that into the number of different visitors to this site per week this should amount to a decent sum for the club. Remember every little bit we can do will help the cause.
Anon at 8:17:44 Sunday December 10 2000
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACE at 6:14:50 Sunday December 10 2000
Yesterdays game was the best performance for a month with Hunt and Gabbiadini having excellent games.We deserved a replay with Mr.Jones's incompitant decisions costing us dearly.Green was fouled in the 3rd minute for a penalty.Their defender blatantly hand balled it near the end.Jamie's goal was not offside!.You can't overcome crap refereeing decision like that.Also well done Gary Hughes.
Lancaster Cobbler at 0:26:3 Sunday December 10 2000
The rumours of Dean West joining NTFC are concerning, lets take a look at the last two Burnley players to sign for NTFC...Damian Matthew cursed with injuries, Lee Howey out for a nearly a year no sign of a return, do you spot a pattern??
Anon at 0:17:55 Sunday December 10 2000
Once is bad enough! When do you leave the country again? Soon I hope.
A Childs View at 22:21:5 Saturday December 9 2000
Back in the UK again and more than a little worried by what has been going on. Rumours of running out of cash? If this is the case serious questions have to be asked of the board. We know all about administration and I cannot conceive of anything that would justify us sailing as close to the financial wind as some of the comments on here suggest. I'd rather watch my club in the 3rd than have no club to support - this can happen and we should never forget this possibility!! How difficult can it be - simply don't commit to liabilities that cannot be financially covered on the most conservative likely income estimates! Or am I missing something? I can accept the board members not stumping up millions of their own money but, at the very least, I expect prudent financial management - I'm very worried and would appreciate any further details on the financial situation if anyone knows anything. Performances seem to have gone for a burton as well! In truth, we'd been riding our luck a little at the start of season, but, the team was giving a hundred percent and individuals were playing above themselves. What's gone wrong? Is it the Broadhurst departure (Luton beat Stoke 3-1 at the Brittania!!) that has affected things? It makes me think, as a fan who goes to most games I'm still completely in the dark and don't really understand anything about what actually makes my club tick! Fans are, in truth, very low on the priority list when it comes to football. Indeed, why don't the board give us financial details about the club in the matchday programmes - it'd be in their interest and may stop us clambering for extra transfer funds if we were told what was going on! The next couple of games give us a chance to turn things around on the field - home to Swansea and away at Oxford - 6 points against weaker opposition could give the players their belief back - importantly it would edge us that bit closer to enough points to stay in the division. Pleased to hear the performance today was an improved one - anyone fancy adding a more comprehensive match report? Come on the town, lets hammer Swansea to give us all a much needed boost!!
A Childs View at 22:20:19 Saturday December 9 2000
Back in the UK again and more than a little worried by what has been going on. Rumours of running out of cash? If this is the case serious questions have to be asked of the board. We know all about administration and I cannot conceive of anything that would justify us sailing as close to the financial wind as some of the comments on here suggest. I'd rather watch my club in the 3rd than have no club to support - this can happen and we should never forget this possibility!! How difficult can it be - simply don't commit to liabilities that cannot be financially covered on the most conservative likely income estimates! Or am I missing something? I can accept the board members not stumping up millions of their own money but, at the very least, I expect prudent financial management - I'm very worried and would appreciate any further details on the financial situation if anyone knows anything. Performances seem to have gone for a burton as well! In truth, we'd been riding our luck a little at the start of season, but, the team was giving a hundred percent and individuals were playing above themselves. What's gone wrong? Is it the Broadhurst departure (Luton beat Stoke 3-1 at the Brittania!!) that has affected things? It makes me think, as a fan who goes to most games I'm still completely in the dark and don't really understand anything about what actually makes my club tick! Fans are, in truth, very low on the priority list when it comes to football. Indeed, why don't the board give us financial details about the club in the matchday programmes - it'd be in their interest and may stop us clambering for extra transfer funds if we were told what was going on! The next couple of games give us a chance to turn things around on the field - home to Swansea and away at Oxford - 6 points against weaker opposition could give the players their belief back - importantly it would edge us that bit closer to enough points to stay in the division. Pleased to hear the performance today was an improved one - anyone fancy adding a more comprehensive match report? Come on the town, lets hammer Swansea to give us all a much needed boost!!
Lancaster Cobbler at 21:31:23 Saturday December 9 2000
Why oh why do we have to single out players for criticism, the comments about Garry Hughes were most unhelpful, there have been countless players far worst than him, and for goodness sake he has only played about 20 games!
Lancaster Cobbler at 21:25:27 Saturday December 9 2000
Okay people, I am offering you a choice would you rather have a) Cobblers do the double of the pish and both teams are relegated or B) we lose both times to Pish and get promoted??
tHE cOBBLERS rOLLERCOASTER at 20:59:14 Saturday December 9 2000
I only support the The Town because they are like a roller coaster, if they won every week I would be bored, but I love to beat certain teams and here they come 3 in a row!!
Lancaster Cobbler at 20:47:8 Saturday December 9 2000
Gabbiadini is suspended for the Pish game, oh dear!
Lancaster Cobbler at 20:39:14 Saturday December 9 2000
Hopefully today will be a turning point, it seems we had bad luck today as oppossed to playing badly. It is a shame it was an og from Garry. Did Hope do okay as a left-back?
AAnon at 18:58:50 Saturday December 9 2000
According to the official Cobblers site and Wilson's C.V. the manager(??) has NO coaching qualifications at all.That explains why he boasts that he has no need to study the strengths and weakness's of any of our oposition teams?1?1??
Anon at 18:50:21 Saturday December 9 2000
Willy Boy - If you're so loyal why wern't you there today?
Willy Boy at 18:49:2 Saturday December 9 2000
Wilson is certainly consistent- unfortunately for the loyal fans- who certainly deserve better from him. A big question many fans are asking is has Wilson even got his NVQ level one in Football coaching??? The Board of Directors have got to have a serious talk with him before the attendance figures drop well below the average for the Conference league..PLEASE will some one at Sixfields wake up to how serious fans view our position for the future.
Nowhere Man at 18:14:56 Saturday December 9 2000
It was twenty years ago yesterday . . . .
Misery Guts at 18:13:21 Saturday December 9 2000
Oh well it's back to the league and trying to stop the rot there.
Dr Winston O'Boogie at 18:12:20 Saturday December 9 2000
So this is Christmas?
Hartwell at 18:11:46 Saturday December 9 2000
Listened to the match on Radio Northampton and, while the station had to duck and dive between games, it gives us stay-at-homes a pretty fair overview of the game. I'm not complaining about those who criticise local radio coverage - it's their right. However, I can recall the many years when the first information about an away game came on the national TV or radio sports report results at 5pm. Then we had to wait until 6pm (ish) for the old Green 'Un. At least we now get something approaching a running commentary - even when there are other important county games to cover - ie Diremonds, Saints, Kettering in a big cuyp game. Those who don't like Adam Blackmore's commentary can simply switch off if they wish. Personally I will keep listening.
Quite Frankly at 18:10:39 Saturday December 9 2000
Oxford the Saturday after worries me . . . then it's Pooh away, that worries me too . . . then we have Bristol City at home that frightens the crap out of me! Merry Christmas.
Tony at 17:36:57 Saturday December 9 2000
After reading Fan in the Car on the radio.... I feel a bit better!
Tony at 17:36:7 Saturday December 9 2000
For me what happens Tuesday night is really going to tell the tale, Swansea are a tough hard working team, but not doing well right now. If we beat them good, if not and we play crap, I really will worry.
FAN IN THE CAR ON THE RADIO at 17:35:18 Saturday December 9 2000
Jamie's goal was not offside there were two men on the line. The ref missed a blatant pass back. We did not get the rub of the green. We played tremendously well for an hour today. Best performance for weeks.
Radio Northampton Post-Match Interview at 17:32:25 Saturday December 9 2000
KEVIN WILSON SAYS - We changed the system back to 4-4-2 and it worked very well. Some of the decisions today were very poor. I'd like to see the 'offside' goal again as two maen were on the post'. The performance put in today was magnificent but decisions went against us, we should have had a penalty in the first minute. We have to turn up cup form in to league form, Rotherham worked hard and we have to do the same. Adam Sollitt is only 50% fit, Hughes isn't fully fit and we have a 17 year old on the bench. It's disappointing as we desrved something out of the game, I wont elaborate on the decisions. The lads must take heart in the performance, we like to play football and not hit and hope.
Anon at 17:18:25 Saturday December 9 2000
What ever way you wrap it up we lost and didn't score AGAIN! We'll only know the truth once the faithful have returned and given their opinions.
Blind Faith at 17:16:28 Saturday December 9 2000
It was much closer this week, only one/nil and we hit a post. Jamie scored but it was disallowed for offside and we played our reserve goalie. Rotherham didn't score the goal and . . . . oh crap!
Its all over rover at 16:56:45 Saturday December 9 2000
1-0... DOH!
rachel at 16:53:31 Saturday December 9 2000
o bugger
Oh Dear at 16:51:59 Saturday December 9 2000
Where does it all end? Division 3 again?
Anon at 16:51:34 Saturday December 9 2000
:¬0 boring
Paul at 16:34:23 Saturday December 9 2000
To add to my missery.. Sky Sports report Stockport have taken a 4-2 lead over Shefield Wednesday, the reporter says.. and I quote "the ball was passed to Ali Gibb on the right who put over a PEACH of a pinpoint cross for xxxx to score the 4th goal"... AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!! What is happening to us???
Ralph at 16:30:21 Saturday December 9 2000
Adam Blackmore tells us how the Cobblers game is really 'hotting up' and promptly hands us over to the rugby which greets us with 'a dull uneventful game'. Typical! Weather report anyone?
Ralph at 16:28:34 Saturday December 9 2000
We are now going over to the Racecourse to see how St Mary's are getting on against Crusaders!
Ralph at 16:27:21 Saturday December 9 2000
Just for the record Jamie put the ball in the net but it was ruled out for offside and Howard hit a post. Bristol 2 Poppies 1.
Anon at 16:20:21 Saturday December 9 2000
Brsitol City have equalised
Paul at 16:18:55 Saturday December 9 2000
Even Atkins bloody Carlisle side are winning 2-0 away from home!!
Paul at 16:14:58 Saturday December 9 2000
In fairness I don't blame Radio Northampton for not doing commentry... lets face it, were crap and it would be tough to get Adam Blackmore enthusiastic about a Man Utd game, let alone our dull, hoof the ball forward style of play. (Haven't we been here before?)
Anon at 16:10:27 Saturday December 9 2000
...... and now we bring you......full second half coverage from Bristol City...
Anon at 15:56:39 Saturday December 9 2000
01604 234455 - assuming you want to waste your breath
192 at 15:50:43 Saturday December 9 2000
234455
Anon at 15:50:10 Saturday December 9 2000
crap radio station, commentating on crap rugby, crap non-leaguers, what is going on with our team? does anyone no the number of radion numpton so i can ring and moan?
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:46:57 Saturday December 9 2000
Scum United now leading 2-1, Giggs levelled it, then after the restart balsted the ball from the half-way line, it hit the bar and Solkjar scored, oh for skill
Rachel at 15:45:56 Saturday December 9 2000
thanx DavCobbler. But the radio commentry is everything but Cobblers most of the time! Luckilly I want 2 know all the other local scores, but I really, really, really wanna know about the number 1 team in the county.........why NTFC of course
DavCobbler at 15:45:40 Saturday December 9 2000
:-)) much..........................
Paul at 15:45:3 Saturday December 9 2000
Savage missed a sitter? No, your telling porkie pies... I've never seen him do anything like that before!
DavCobbler at 15:44:10 Saturday December 9 2000
Maybe DavPoppy or Dav Saint would be more appropriate with this commentary ??
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:43:44 Saturday December 9 2000
Well if it was March, Savvo would have scored!
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:42:55 Saturday December 9 2000
It probably is a good job Branston's foul act was not seen, as if he was sent off then...
Anon at 15:42:54 Saturday December 9 2000
Still 1-0 - Savage just missed a sitter
DavCobbler at 15:42:50 Saturday December 9 2000
Welcome Rachel.........
New formation at 15:42:19 Saturday December 9 2000
Wilson plans a novel 1-1-8 formation inkeeping with our lack of defence or midfield.......
Rachel at 15:41:58 Saturday December 9 2000
Woah, Its the 1st time in ages that I haven't been to a cobblers game + listened 2 it on the radio + been on the net @ the same time!
Shame Sav mate!
DavCobbler at 15:41:8 Saturday December 9 2000
Town battling well (commentators opinion)......
Paul at 15:40:52 Saturday December 9 2000
Wilson brings on more strikers, takes off whole defence? LOL
DavCobbler at 15:39:19 Saturday December 9 2000
Charlton 1 Man U o....there is a god........
DavCobbler at 15:38:49 Saturday December 9 2000
Branston takes out Jamie........refs turns blind eye......
Ralph at 15:35:56 Saturday December 9 2000
This is pointless, it's all rugby! I'm going off to paint a radiator and listen to five live. It's probably the only way to find out what is going on at Millmoor!
Ralph at 15:33:40 Saturday December 9 2000
Away at Harlequins . . . Gabbi sets up Jamie but he is closed down. Rotherham are flooding forward . . . time for the Saturday recipe. Then it's rugby, followed by Kettering.
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:33:28 Saturday December 9 2000
And it is old boy Darren Collins with the goal
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:32:45 Saturday December 9 2000
Sound as if we under the cosh, big time!
Ralph at 15:31:31 Saturday December 9 2000
Nearly 2-0, Sammo clears off the line and now over to Bristol City! Kettering 1 City 0.
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:30:49 Saturday December 9 2000
If Hughes scored an own goal was more of a case of Sollitt's injury causing i, or a big mistake by Garry??
DavCobbler at 15:30:37 Saturday December 9 2000
Egg chasers home or away ?
Ralph at 15:30:24 Saturday December 9 2000
ooh back to footie . . . but Adam Blackmore is talking about the Saints, what a waste of a license fee.
Ralph at 15:28:55 Saturday December 9 2000
Anyone for rugby? Quins have had the better of things apparently! Grayson has penalty . . . yawn! Should we not ring and complain? 01604 234455.
DavCobbler at 15:28:45 Saturday December 9 2000
Didn`t get the chance to go today what with everything else going on................seems like it might not be a bad thing so far........
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:27:49 Saturday December 9 2000
Not sounding too clever is it, I suppose we could switch Savvo to right-wing, and bring Gould on to give us some width. Get the ball to Jamie
Ralph at 15:26:57 Saturday December 9 2000
Team picks itself today I guess.
DavCobbler at 15:26:56 Saturday December 9 2000
Hello all.........
Ralph at 15:26:3 Saturday December 9 2000
Hope is also playing out of position at left-back. Gabbiadini is playing right-wing?
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:25:57 Saturday December 9 2000
I think we really are missing Hodge, let's hope he is fit for Tuesday
Ralph at 15:24:57 Saturday December 9 2000
Adam Blackmore reports that Adam Sollitt has a huge boot on him. Hope this does hamper his performance!
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:23:53 Saturday December 9 2000
Leave off Garry Hughes, he is being asked to play in a position which he is not suited to as he is a centre-half, at least he has scored a goal this season. If we did not have such a stupid cluause with Hendon allowing him to go for 55,000 then we would not be in this mess.
Ralph at 15:23:15 Saturday December 9 2000
According to the commentary about 500 Cobblers supporters have made the journey. I'd like to let you know what is going on but Radio Northampton seem to be covering four games in rotation!
Sid at 15:20:28 Saturday December 9 2000
Apart from not playing Hughes.... LOL :-)
Sid at 15:19:38 Saturday December 9 2000
Another effing goal conceded! WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO JUST KEEP A CLEAN SHEET FOR BLOODY ONCE!
Paul at 15:19:10 Saturday December 9 2000
Oh well, another Saturday without a win, I'm getting used to this! What do you mean I am being premature? or maybe it's immature?
britgal at 15:17:9 Saturday December 9 2000
no!!!! own goal, gary hughes.... poor boy
Paul at 15:13:2 Saturday December 9 2000
Oh, bugger.. why do they always do that when we are away!
commentator at 15:10:52 Saturday December 9 2000
i'd do commentating, if there wasn't RUGBY on the radio
Paul at 14:43:51 Saturday December 9 2000
Anyone able to post updates this afternoon, still not got my radio fixed!
Sean from London at 14:37:2 Saturday December 9 2000
"Who'll keep the Boro out. Welch Welch Welch Welch!Who'll keep the Boro out. Welch Welch Welch Welch!" (to the tune of Who Let The Dogs Out)
Just two weeks to Boro
Tony at 14:35:50 Saturday December 9 2000
Is it a 4-4-2 as the Chron sugested it might be, with Gabbers on the right wing? Perhaps we might get a decent cross from there today!
Ralph at 14:24:24 Saturday December 9 2000
Sorry, Spedding is also a sub.
Ralph at 14:23:38 Saturday December 9 2000
Today's team news, 4-4-2 - Sollitt; Hughes, Green, Sampson, Hope; Gabbiadini, Savage, Hunt, Hargreaves; Forrester, Howard. Subs: Morrow, Gould, Thompson, Laws. Clare out as it is a cup match.
Really! at 14:0:56 Saturday December 9 2000
BRITGAL - I believe the chant goes something like this 'What a waste of money . . . etc'.
Gav at 13:41:10 Saturday December 9 2000
it's going to be a tough test for your lads today, but i'm confident even with alan lee out that rotherham will turn your boys over.
britgal at 12:15:51 Saturday December 9 2000
ok, for the past few weeks my friends have been laughing at me nonstop, saying 4-1, 3-0.... the 'school bully', a supporter of Swindon greeted me with a Swindon chant first thing monday morning. I have paid up the bet i made with him that we would win, but in the face of his mocking i made another bet, £10 that cobblers would go up and Swindon go down. Was that a bad decision? I am hoping my blind faith in the cobblers will be right! Anyway, PLEASE cobblers, win today otherwise i will never hear the end of it.... I think we will. 2-0?
9224 at 11:43:58 Saturday December 9 2000
I've even cracked out the 97/98 shirt to give the boys a boost. Although not at Rotherham, I hope it'll do its stuff!!!
Rachel at 11:5:35 Saturday December 9 2000
I meant losses, my spelling isn't its best as you can see!
MartinW at 10:58:16 Saturday December 9 2000
Ha ha, I'd like to think so Anon. The last few games have been so dire that even if I was here, I wouldn't have filed the goals on the site. I've decided that if we play crap and don't score, there is no point of filing the goals. Who wants to see the opposition's goals, anyway. Come on you Cobblers!!
Anon at 10:32:1 Saturday December 9 2000
The real reason for us failing to score for the last few weeks is obviously MartinW being away without permission. Now he has returned we can expect a veritable goalfest to give him loads of work to do to put them on his site.
MartinW at 10:7:49 Saturday December 9 2000
Open message to Max Griggs: Rushden will be second forever. Bury your differences and get us out of the financial sh"£$. You know it makes sense.
MartinWbackatlast at 10:5:43 Saturday December 9 2000
Rotherham will be a tough test.
But I remain concerned about the internal rumblings over the departure of Broadhurst. And the cost of him going. Which is why we are probably not looking for another assistant. It is obvious that Willo and Broadhurst clashed. That there were management conflicts between the two. The clashes have been resolved, but like with so much of this season, you don't need to change something that doesn't need fixing. The five at the back with big man and little man up front produced results. When we changed we struggled. In this case something had to give, Willo or Broadhurst, it is clear. But it is clear that Broadhurst offered much more than his some of us would have realised. Observing the bench there now seems to be less communication to the players during games. Broadhurst was always up and giving direction, his body language always seemed to be very clear and confident about what each department of the team should be doing. We don't have that tactical confidence now. The goal we lost to Colchester looked a joke, by the way having just seen it. One defender back. Oh I can't bear to think about it. Look at Luton no Broadhurst has joined. Famous last words.
Having said that, no doubt we'll slaughter Rotherham today.
We can change it round, but I agree that Willo needs a tactical assistant. He needs Broadhurst.
But I fear that due to the previously mentioned tight finances we are too tight to do anything but stick with the status quo. So I'll sign off with a burst of Rocking All Over The World. Or perhaps not.
Shadwell at 10:0:3 Saturday December 9 2000
Well said Driller.
Shadwell at 9:57:33 Saturday December 9 2000
After last weeks performance I had decided not to go to Rotherham. But as the week wore on I started to think again. Surely if there was a time when the team needed a screaming demented fan the time is now. This is the time when each and every fan can make a difference. Give the lads the confidence boost they need and get behind them and sing. If you want to make a difference see you at Rotherham.
The Drilling Cobbler at 9:26:14 Saturday December 9 2000
We're on the march with Wilsons army, we're all going to wem-b-lee. And we're really shake you up when we win the F A cup, cause Northampton Towns the greatest football team! 9o'clock on F A cup morning and the excitement builds, the tension mounts, a real sense of optimism flows through the 3 stories of Forrester House, home of myself, The Drilling Cobbler, the future Mrs Drilling Cobbler and Atkins the cockatiel. Much to her dismay, the only thing sticking up this morning when I woke up were the hairs on the back of my neck. Oh well, I've promised her a top notch root providing that we safely make it into round 3! Suddenly, I feel that we are invincible again, and maintain that we will come away with a 1-0 victory. Even if James G doesnt take his deserved place in the starting line-up. Lets bury the past, forget our recent run and once again play like Brazil. Or at least dream that Duncan Spedding will play like a Brazilian today and torment the Rotherham full back in the same way that his mentor Ally did against his Hammers rival two seasons ago. It can happen and it will happen. Lets sing like we've never sung before, lets make sure that all the players from both sides can hear is the noise generated from the away end. Lets remain positive even if we do concede an early goal or two. Lets make sure the only merry people in millmoor come 4:45 are those dressed in claret. Let Sunday be a day that can be enjoyed as we all look forward to the draw for round3 at around 5:30pm. We can do it - never stop believing and much more importantly - never surrender!
9224 at 4:28:13 Saturday December 9 2000
Concerned about the financial situation. What exactly will need reviewing if we don't reach round3? (and frankly, I'm not optimistic) Why doesn't local radio or newspaper ask the questions that matter? They'll ask something, and then not follow it up with the obvious question that arises from the oft paradoxical answer offered in reply.
Elastoplast at 0:49:28 Saturday December 9 2000
Take it from me, Claret Bloodbath won't be at Rotherham. He hasn't been to any matches this season, or last, or the one before that. I know who you are Claret and you should know better.
Carl at 0:4:34 Saturday December 9 2000
Did we lose at Colchester?
Phil Baron at 22:17:51 Friday December 8 2000
I come to the conclusion that TCMP cannot win can he? If he post any comment on here he slagged off and if he does not post for a few days he is avoiding issues? At the end of the day the team does not get bad overnight does it? Perhaps using the midfield a bit more will produce a bit more football which in turn will motivate the players!
Anon2 at 21:34:48 Friday December 8 2000
All Kev needs is an assistant manager, what about Steve Bruce? Ever since Broadhurst left we haven't scored in a league game and lost them all. I'm suprised that only a few people have noticed the pattern (it does say FEW and not NOBODY, don't go biting my head off)
Anon2 at 21:33:39 Friday December 8 2000
RAY - please delete this entry and the other one I just typed out, i'll type it again
Anon2 at 21:32:11 Friday December 8 2000
All Kev needs is an assistant manager, what aboiut Stve Bruce? Ever since Broadhurst left we have scored in a league game and lost them all. I'm suprised that only a few people have noticed the pattern (it does say FEW and not NOBODY, don't go biting my head off)
Anon at 21:10:28 Friday December 8 2000
Here we sit on the brink of disaster and all Sean, Zak and Bogeyman want to do is sing.
Mr C Bogey at 20:51:15 Friday December 8 2000
You can also sing,
" I got a job, with lots of dosh, but what I like best is kicking the posh,
der do da dah, der do daday, so f**k the posh and the IRA
Not that you should be singing secetarian songs promoting violence, Mr Please, Please Please.
Zak White at 19:28:38 Friday December 8 2000
When are we getting a new scoreboard. I know we aren't rich but we could atleast afford a new scoreboard!
Sean from London at 19:28:25 Friday December 8 2000
"Who'll keep the Boro out. Welch Welch Welch Welch!Who'll keep the Boro out. Welch Welch Welch Welch!"
(to the tune of Who Let The Dogs Out)
Sonny at 19:20:40 Friday December 8 2000
Why are we skint? Vince? Hartwell? TCMP? You all have the ears of the chosen ones. What is going on? Surely the best way to dispel rumour is to make an announcement? Come on Mr Stonhill get it off your chest!
Sonny at 19:7:24 Friday December 8 2000
I have only missed a handful of away games in the past two seasons and I have no idea who this Claret Bloodbath is. Having said that there was this looney at Bristol a few seasons ago calling for Atkins head, he wore a green basball cap and dribbled a lot. Alternatively he could be the big fat bloke who sat on his own at Port Vale this season. He disputed every corner, throw-in and goal kick. Berated his own supporters for not singing loud enough, never sat still or kept quiet for the whole game and then . . . with minutes to go got up and left! Amazing! It was like life and death to him but he didn't stay to the end. Apart from that CB I really have no idea who or what you are, you might be a girlie for all we know, if so I apologise for suggesting that you might be one of the aforementioned chaps.
Pauline at 18:53:16 Friday December 8 2000
DO NOT start me off on the Liz Kershaw debate! Bring back Steve Richies PLEASE!!!! Apart from the odd away game that I miss I just do not even bother with our so called local radio staion. Local? How comes she can't pronounce the village names and speaks with a bloody 'hotpot' accent?
stuart at 17:13:59 Friday December 8 2000
Did anybody hear the interview with Stonhill on Radio Northampton this morning on that god awful Liz Kershaws show?
From the snippet that i caught he said that if we didnt reach round 3 and draw a premiership side then we will have to review certain matters!!
That means we are broke again - to prove this - i have knowledge that the club would like to employ more staff on the admin side, but they cant afford to - surprise surprise.
Anyway, good luck for tomorrow - i too will have to suffer listening to that fat prat trying to commentate.
PATTCOBB at 16:40:30 Friday December 8 2000
And finally.......For all you cobbs on the way to Rotherham tomorrow my favourite quote from last season comes from a pub about 1/4 mile from Millmoor towards the town centre(can't remember its name but Sir Robert of Walocshire was drinking there so it had to be good).Got talking to a oldish Rotherham supporter (talk about bleed red and white blood this man had the reddest face that I had ever seen-could have had something to do with the 6 pints that he said he had already consumed prior to our meeting.)we covered many subjects including refreshingly and somewhat surprisingly his loathing of "those f*cking eggchasing poofs".When I aked him about the town of Rotherham he came out with the classic "IT'S F*CKING AWFUL ROUND 'ERE MATE....IT'S NOTHING BUT F*CKING SCRAPYARDS AND F*CKING GYPSIES".For those travelling tomorrow lets sorry funds dictate that I cannot make it so it's Adam Blackmore for me oh and by the way correct me if i"m wrong but we haven't beaten Rotherham since te seventies........enjoy!
PATTCOBB at 16:25:44 Friday December 8 2000
Actually when you sit and analyse the whole situation,especially Hendon's quote that "Someone had to go" and not more than two months later we now boast nearly a whole team of strikers,you have to ask was he the right one to go?
PATTCOBB at 16:21:39 Friday December 8 2000
rachel do you mean they were bad losses or bad losers?
Rachel at 16:20:29 Friday December 8 2000
I think they were both bad loses!
PATTCOBB at 16:15:49 Friday December 8 2000
Just to say I told you so. Way back in the middle of our successful early season form I warned that we would soon be in trouble if we didn't score goals from different areas on the pitch.So J.F. goes through a bad spell(although I still think he will manage 25 this season)and what happens.......we don't score .This capped with our snails pace defence is the route of the problems we are having right now.On the same subject, was the biggest mistake getting rid of Broadhurst or Hendon?.............
me at 15:54:57 Friday December 8 2000
Is it just me or is there more singing etc @ away games? + even that is hardly @ all
Tom Lugg at 15:51:59 Friday December 8 2000
ha
Anon at 15:16:53 Friday December 8 2000
thanks Richard
Anon at 13:59:36 Friday December 8 2000
Claret Bloodbath - Please stay away tomorrow, we only need fans right now who are prepared to get behind the team. You wern't on here slagging off Kevin when we got promoted last season, you wern't on here slagging him off in August, September, October or November. Go to Nene Park and undermine them, rant and rave at them, destroy their confidence. We need our fans to sing, chant, shout and scream FOR Northampton Town FC tomorrow.
Carl at 13:26:45 Friday December 8 2000
No worries Ray, it was just one of my longer pieces in response to Mr Bloodbath, so it was probably a good thing, the gist of it was that I don't agree with him. UP THE COBBLERS.
Ray at 13:25:0 Friday December 8 2000
Aplogies if I accidently deleted your post Carl - it was unintentional.
Vince at 13:22:23 Friday December 8 2000
Claret Bloodbath - you're entitled to your opinions and along with everyone else I'm concerned about recent results and how they have happened just after Broadhurst left. Calling for Wilson to go won't help matters and I suspect that you probably realise that - give the guy a chance to sort out what is his first real problem since he took over a year ago. If we got rid of a manager everytime they had a bad spell Dave Bowen wouldn't have got us into Div 1, Graham Carr would not have managed the Cobblers to the 4th Division championship, Herbert Chapman would have left before the Southern League was won and even Ian Atkins would not have been around to get us to Wembley twice. BTW I go to most away games and I don't know who you are - If you have the courage of your convictions at least make yourself known.
Lancaster Cobbler at 12:58:28 Friday December 8 2000
Carl, maybe as your message was just after a posting which Ray rightly deleted he accidently got yours off as well
RICHARD at 12:56:45 Friday December 8 2000
'Up the Cobblers' 21:58:55 ;'Someone must know' 22:8:00; 'PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE' 23:4:46 (all Thursday postings). "When I was young - I had no sense - I bought a flute - for 50 pence. The only tune - that I could play - was f**k the Posh and the IRA." The uplifting chorus goes something like this:- " uh uh uh uh - OOH!, uh uh uh uh - AHH! uh uh uh uh - OOH! , uh uh uh uh - AHH! " OK, well you try putting it down on paper then!!!!!!!!!!
ryan keenan at 12:55:43 Friday December 8 2000
ntfc are cool
RICHARD at 12:36:57 Friday December 8 2000
IK'CIWT:"Somewhere, over the rainbow....." No jokes about farmyard animals and dung; no witty commentary on smocks, straw and pitchforks; no reference to convoys of Massey Fergusons churning their way up the M1; not even a forced humorous analogy about railway go slows (though the cumulative distance the ball must have travelled from a Swindon boot beyond touch, in the interests of good old-fashioned time-wasting, was little short of a record. No. Fair enough. All that can be said is that they earned their good fortune and many an ardent Cobblers fan's pre-season prayers, ie that we are delivered a mediocre season so we can experience the first angst-free, non-promotion/relegation battling season in the last 5 years, have been answered - albeit somewhat earlier than anticipated! We've had the euphoria of early season glory; we're now suffering the mid-season slump. Let's hope the 'blip' doesn't widen into a yawning chasm of indifferent performance. More damning criticism there could not be than to overhear a Swindon supporter asserting, as we left the stadium last Saturday, that "...they MUST be a poor side if we can beat them, because we really ARE sh*te!" Hopefully the end of season run in will see us already relegation-proofed so we can sit back, relax and enjoy a carefree last few weeks of football, regardless of results!
The Cobblers ending up in football 'no-man's land' is not as uncommon as one might think, given our roller-coaster existence of the past few seasons. In fact, you may be surprised to learn that of the Club's 73 completed seasons to date, not only have we ended up in the top half 36 times, against 37 in the lower reaches, we have also managed a pulse-numbing 25 'mid third' finishes (with 24 top- and 24 bottom-third final placings)! The rise to relative league prosperity during the 'late '50s and early '60s is well documented; a number of creditable seasons saw us achieve a status we have never since managed to emulate; indeed, these past triumphs plus the heady promotion-enlivened days of the mid '70s and '80s only serve to highlight our lowly achievements for the vast majority of our league history. So the most recent past, by comparison, should be a reason for rejoicing not grumbling!
Anyway, I digress. Swindon have shown that their position belied their capabilities having strung together a few results in recent weeks.The same can equally be said of Bournemouth. Perhaps the same can be said of us too! It is more likely though, to my mind, that there is little to choose between many of the teams in the 2nd Division. And, on any given day, the difference often comes down to confidence and luck.You mark my words; we'll pull off a surprise draw at Rotherham in the Cup next week and sneak through in the replay, only to draw a minnow in the 3rd round and miss out on a big payday. Oh, and we'll lose that one too.
Arriving at Sixfields before the game last Saturday, there was an isolated heavy shower followed by the most brilliant full rainbow I can remember seeing in many a year. Arching over the ground, it looked from our perspective to end right in the South Stand. Perhaps that's why the away fans turned their backs and showed us their arses; it wasn't a gesture of contempt; it was merely that they were frantically searching for a few gold coins that may have spilled from that pot of gold, during the fairy burial ceremony! But what about the beginning of the rainbow? Is there another pot of gold there? No-one ever talks of the other end! North Standers, East and West Standers alike, all Cobblers fans must keep the faith and remain united. Cobblers' fortunes will be forged by our own hands and I feel that the players need to know our support is unequivocal - now, more than ever.
After a bright start, during which we should have taken the lead, consolidated and gone on to a comfortable victory, the half degenerated into a decidedly lacklustre Cobblers performance, with Swindon dominating after their fortuitous goal; how many more are we gonig to concede like that before we strike it lucky ourselves at the other end? OK, the absence of the entire defence (save for James 'the human dynamo' Hunt arriving a split second late) didn't help. Alright, it was a fast breakaway following an all out attack at their end, but we were sadly lacking at the back on that occasion. I've heard many comments to the effect that without Welchy's superb form we would be cellar-dwellers right now (if only we could clone enough Welchys before the other Welshies arrive next Tuesday)!
But give Willo his managerial due, the second half was an entirely different affair and we were unlucky perhaps not to share the 'spoils'. Steve Howard set the tone and announced his intentions early - after 0.4 seconds to be precise - as his lusty tackle in the centre circle straight from the kick-off demonstrated. The booking, like our Stevie's tackle, was a shade over the top from the card carrier, I feel. But the bite was back and we strove to create some golden opportunities. Savvo was beginning to play like May had come early, showing glimpses of his latent talent and tying their left side of defence in knots. The whole side showed a greater urgency, an attitude which, if adopted from the get go, would, I have no doubt, buried the railwaymen. It's that confidence thing again. Going behind rocks you back on your heels and it's difficult to rise above the oppression of indecision and doubt. We've shipped the first goal in the last 4 league games and whereas earlier in the season we have fought back from adversity whilst playing with fluidity and self-belief, now we are struggling and fighting an uphill battle. Most importantly, the campaign is not over - yet!
The Festive Season is nigh upon us and fortunes can change drastically over the Yuletide period. With Swansea and Oxford upcoming and 4 Christmas/New Year fixtures in close proximity thereafter, not just the results of these games, but the manner in which we play them, will go some way to determining the course of the remainder of our season. If we can weather the storm, Sixfields sunshine will return and we shall witness again the full spectrum of Cobblers talent!
Carl at 12:30:11 Friday December 8 2000
Why was my last note deleted?
Anon at 12:28:54 Friday December 8 2000
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I've been to every game and.... at 11:21:20 Friday December 8 2000
I don't know you.
From The Real Fans at 11:12:35 Friday December 8 2000
only a handfull of us Cobblers fans (about 70) made the journey
and I think we deserved a lot more that what we got, but this
competition is thought of lightly and I just hope that is the reason for
a poor performance.
Claret Bloodbath at 11:7:11 Friday December 8 2000
Ralph, all sources very close to the Club are all saying much the same thing, and that is much the same as Squatter of Madras which is basically his main quality that of stupidity, whilst most of a certain ilk and generation will ridicule this sentiment they nevertheless represent the ant which squatter refused to recognise..the tragedy however about Squatter and in his metamorphisis ...the Club and Kevin Wilson is that as in Squatters ultimate undoing the Mighty NTFC will pay the same price as Squatter himself that of untimely death....what people seem to have misinterpreted is the sentiment behind my action...which I must state here and now is not personally driven but driven towards the greater glory of a Club that means more than life itsef..to those who wish to carry on regardles ie Hartnotsowell and the kids who know no better fine I'm not too worried about you ...to those who weren't at Millwall same sentiment applies to those who have not been to every game we've played this season home or away you wont know me ....but those who have you will !! Mail me on the addy if you care!!!! Wilson has to go and go now..where is the TCMP now ? when all the crap is happening?.. Wilson is being put forward as the fans saviour we've cleared out Atkins and Kev loves the fans but the fans don't win matches neither did Atkins at the end but unfortunately it appears Wilson the saviour has run out of inherited B*llocks and there are no Sex Pistols to tell us not to mind....if you agree with all but the crap I've just posted mail me and let's stop it NOW I'll go to the Club and tell them !!! You don't KNOW who I am so maybe a surprise is what is needed before we say hello to bloomin Rushden , whenever they happen to get it right.........WILSON OUT NOW
Ralph at 10:19:1 Friday December 8 2000
Strange that Hartwell I was told the opposite by a source very close to the club. To quote 'Broadhurst is the disciplinarian, he makes sure that they respect their profession. It is always Kevan's voice you hear on the training ground'.
You sad lot. at 10:2:6 Friday December 8 2000
Forget Millwall - who cares anyway. We have had three bad results - thats all - 4 weeks ago - Willo was king - now you want his head - you sad lot - get behind him tomorrow - he has not become a bad manager just because we lost 3 games.
Hartwell at 8:58:43 Friday December 8 2000
I was told on good authority that Broadhurst's failing was that he was too quiet and faded into the background all the time - and that as a result Willo was having to to his job for him. Please don't ask me to explain that - I can't. But that is what a source close to the club told me at the time of his departure. Unfortunately there wasn't time for me to ask the source to clarify/explain the remark. Anyway, for what it's worth thought I'd mention it!
Bill Shankley at 8:39:33 Friday December 8 2000
"If you get to the edge of the penalty area with the ball and don't know what to do next, just stick the ball in the net for now. We can evaluate the other options later."
Bill Shankley at 8:37:23 Friday December 8 2000
Football is not a matter of life and death - its far more important than that.
LA at 6:58:47 Friday December 8 2000
Tvm BF - BH...vvn! Have a good un :-)
Stewpot at 6:12:8 Friday December 8 2000
Just a thought I wouldve loved to have had the internet in years gone by. Just think of the comments being put in the end of Carrs days, the heroic Chard days the Barnwell time and the Foley debacle wouldve made interesting reading I think but on the other hand most comments wouldve probaly read gaa gaa goo goo potty as they were to young to understand this wonderful game of football that so many of us hold dear to our hearts. As Bill Shankley said Football is more than a matter of life and death or something similiar, food for thought?
oldman at 2:4:52 Friday December 8 2000
Let's just face it, Northampton is a third-rate town with conference-rate people. Once everyone grows up and accepts that life is more than just today's results, then the team would have a happier bunch of supporters. Give the manager (whoever that is) a chance to provide entertainment, and to hell with the league position. Else, bring back Atkins........
splat at 23:21:29 Thursday December 7 2000
oh look the funny imatation people are out!
Splat at 23:17:52 Thursday December 7 2000
You just don't get it do you?
Splat at 23:14:21 Thursday December 7 2000
Come on guys and gals why be down? we're 9th in division 2 going into December, still in the FA cup, and have one of the best squad's for years if not just over a decade. So we've hit a bit of a bad patch, shit happens get over it! It'd be boring if we won each week (nice albeit) but if that's what you want then go support Man U. This is what supporting a club like the Cobblers is all about and this is the time when the club needs us the most, stop the bitching and slagging and turn those rants into chants. We'll get through it, just stick together....."big city lights don't bother me, Northampton Town I'm proud to be!" COME ON COBBLERS!!!!
splat at 23:6:43 Thursday December 7 2000
....also the drilling cobbler always posts under the same name (just assuming) therefore same style of writing etc. Anon could be anybody, anytime anywhere...who knows? Exactly!
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE at 23:4:46 Thursday December 7 2000
Can someone post the Tierry Henry song lyrics for 'boro I'm desperate to know them!
splat at 23:2:17 Thursday December 7 2000
the drilling cobbler uses an acronym whereas anon doesn't! In other words it's the difffernce in the name!......DER!
The Drilling Cobbler at 23:0:25 Thursday December 7 2000
The Drilling Cobbler, what's the difference between you and anon?
splat at 22:57:27 Thursday December 7 2000
Rob tickets are on sale now, to non season ticket holders £10 aldult, £5 concession. Not many terracring spots left according to woman on koisk when got my tickets!
Rob at 22:45:20 Thursday December 7 2000
Anyone know when the peterboro tickets go on sale ???, i went last season and the atmosphere was great , pitty we lost though!!!!
The Drilling Cobbler at 22:29:20 Thursday December 7 2000
Claret Bloodbath has the same right to express his opinions as anybody else. The mere fact that he is a regular contributer to this site proves that he(or she) isnt fickle, just not as subtle as some of the other people that put their present feelings into words. He also isnt an 'anon', so he isnt concerned what people think. Its all about the freedom to debate, not to slag people off just for saying what they think. Personally, I dont share the opinion that Kev W should be sacked on the back of 4 consecutive defeats, but if things continue in the same way,and recent events would suggest that they may well do, something has to be done now and not in March when potentially we could be in the sh*t. It took me until about Febuary of our relegation season to finally lose patience with Atkins, but Atkins had got 3 1/2 good years behind him for people to continue giving him the benefit of the doubt. Wilson has got 1 year, and the team he did take up consisted of players that he mainly hadnt actually brought to the club. It was obvious that all the players needed was a lift and they would then start to perform in the way that we new they could do, and Wilson and Broadhurst provided that, but on his own he is unproven, so he must prove to people that he is the talented up and coming manager that so many claim that he is. So far, he has failed to provide any evidence that he can fulfill his duties effectively, but he must be given a fair chance. But if he needs help, he must face up to it and recruit someone who can offer that help, or stick with his own ideas and face the consequences if they dont work. Personnally, I hope he selects the first option.
Someone MUST know! at 22:8:0 Thursday December 7 2000
de de de de de, oh oh, de de de de der ......fu*k the p**h
Goes along those lines!
Northampton Gas at 22:4:46 Thursday December 7 2000
On viewing your comments on this web site, it looks like the The Gas private internal web site. To cheer you all up, this is something I posted on our web site:- We have the orchestra, but not all the players are sat in their correct seats or are away with sick notes.
We have the conductor, but he seems to have lost his way on the score sheet at the moment. We have the Concert Hall, but it still leaks in certain places and the lighting needs improving. We have the audience, but they are becoming fewer and they now cough a lot.
All they want to see and hear is a good performance, with everyone playing the same piece of music, at the same tempo, at the same time.
up the cobblers at 21:58:55 Thursday December 7 2000
Arsenal sing "tierry henry" to a tune which I've heard the North stand chant to a song about the posh. Now with the posh-cobblers match in a couple of weeks, how about somebody posting the lyrics so I can join in tooo......PLEASE!!!!
COL at 21:18:53 Thursday December 7 2000
Yes I had a moan when I got back from Millwall, but the people who are calling for the managers head should wind your neck in! You are supposed to be supporters? To support a team you should be prepared to support them through thick & thin! not try to undermine the playing & coaching staff every time something goes wrong. NOW IS THE TIME YOUR SUPPORT IS NEEDED! When things are not so rosy, SO GET BEHIND THE TEAM (Players & Coaching Staff) DONT UNDERMINE THEM!!
Spring Park Cobbler at 20:42:49 Thursday December 7 2000
Nothing like a bit of hysteria amongst the panicky. Over recent years it has become fashionable to demand the managers head after a few defeats. Earlier contributors to this board have made the point about Ferguson and Man U. Football teams need to be built over a period of time, especially in the lower divisions where teams can't afford to buy themselves out of trouble and even if they try to it's generally panic buying and results in the club coming close to bankruptcy as well as plunging down the leagues.
Unless Wilson becomes clearly unhinged and is seen directing traffic in and out of the car parks on match days we stick with him and allow him to build and to put structures into place that will allow a proper developement of the club from youth through reserves up to the first team.
Elastoplast at 20:15:28 Thursday December 7 2000
I bet that Claret footspa bloke hasn't even been to a match this season.
Eddie at 19:3:59 Thursday December 7 2000
Why is the club so quiet about the mess the club is in - they fail totally to give the fans even a weekly report on the current position. I fail to agree at all with the fans who say that our current position is better than hoped for in September so it just doesn't matter that although we have some very good players we can afford to play the last 4/5 games as if we are at the bottom of the Conference. Even poor old Kettering at least try hard and appear to have some footballing tactics. In all industries today quality Performance is a standard to me measured against- but not by Wilson or the Board of Directors( Do they ever go and see any of the games?????)I forcast that before Xmas that there will be trouble from some of the genuine fans.
Anon at 18:44:15 Thursday December 7 2000
Since so few people comment on this site I would suggest that Claret Bloodbath is in a minority of about 5. The same guys who shout for Spedding's head every week. Lets not give their rantings any creedance by referring to them. Oooops I just did.
Hartwell at 17:25:59 Thursday December 7 2000
This business of calling for a manager's head as soon as anything goes wrong has become a national obsession with supporters nationwide.A manager must be given time. Nobody can expect miracles - although that's what everyone wants in this intolerant age. Had Man U succumbed to fan pressure Sir Alex Ferguson would never have had time to carry through his coaching policy and long-term strategy. And, anyway, its not always the manager who is at fault. Very often it is the players themselves who fail to give 100% effort.Yet they are able to hide behind the manager and let him take the flak. I am not saying, however, that there is never a case for replacing a manager. Sometimes they clearly lose the plot, as Atkins did at least 12 months before our Board parted company with him. But right now the issue of replacing Wilson simply doesn't arise - the fundamental fact is that we simply cannot afford to start paying off another manager as Carl,Sibs, Pompey etc have already pointed out. He was doing well before Broadhurst left and it may well be that, in hindsight,he's made a mistake there. But hopefully that can be righted and if it can there is no reason why we can't pick up again. We also have to remember and recognise that we have very limited resources - that's an historic fact and hasn't changed much today. Compared with the likes of Wigan and Reading we are poor. So, while we may all dream of Div 1, we must accept the realities of life.
Mal at 16:47:26 Thursday December 7 2000
I can only believe that Claret Bloodbath is a Posh Fan trying to stir things on this site. He is talking utter crap.
Ray at 16:28:54 Thursday December 7 2000
Just to cheer you all all - both Welch and Sollitt are injured. The least injured will play on Saturday.
Scary Stat at 14:56:17 Thursday December 7 2000
Northampton have now failed to score a league goal in 315 minutes, the last was in the 2-2 draw against Stoke with Steve Howard scoring on the stroke of half time.
Savage is crap at 14:49:2 Thursday December 7 2000
No wonder Millwall welcomed him 4-1
Sibs at 13:48:1 Thursday December 7 2000
I agree that there is no-way we want to be paying 3 managers wages (and an assistant too??) It does seem we are having a bit of a drop in form - but who honestly thought we would be up as high as we were a month ago?? Surely the aim of this season was to avoid relegation and to hope to be midtable?? Just think. At the end of this season, if carl is right we'll be only paying one manager - that'll be like paying off a morgage - less out-goings in the budget and with the finance bonus of staying up... more scope for squad additions!!
Pompey Cobbler at 13:43:29 Thursday December 7 2000
Richard Dryden had a few spare ones.
Anon at 13:20:22 Thursday December 7 2000
...or any other time during the season unfortunately...
Pompey Cobbler at 13:8:33 Thursday December 7 2000
That should read early season points by the way, not aware we had any early season pounds
Pompey Cobbler at 13:7:36 Thursday December 7 2000
Claret Bloodbath - you are welcome to your opinion and I respect it, but I think you are wrong. Give Wilson a chance , our early season pounds have bought us some time to sort things out - we are not anywhere near crisis point yet - if we don't get another point between now and the end of March then yes, we have a real problem - but how likely to you think that is ? This is a real test of Wilson as a manager and if he come through it then he will come out the otherside the better for it. Oh , and why are you so obsessed with bleeding? will your petition be written in it ?
Carl at 13:4:59 Thursday December 7 2000
Claret Bloodbath what a completely absurd idea. So we sack WIlson, which in itself is beyond all belief, we have to pay his wages until 2002, we are still paying Atkins wages until the end of this season, or so I have been led to believe. We then have to get in someone else so for the forseeable future we will have 3 Managers on our books, and when the new fella (who do you want Venables, Roy Evans, um.. oh yes I believe Ferguson is leaving Man U soon, what about him) loses 4 games you are going to want his head as well, don't be so ludicrous. Just get behind the team and the Manager and we will get through this. If getting through it means staying in Division 2 that is good enough for me, delusions of grandeur are common place amongst the fickle football fan.
marco at 11:57:31 Thursday December 7 2000
From the Luton Fc website: "Kevan Broadhurst has filled the vacancy as Reserve Team Coach on a part-time basis. The role had become available since John Moore's promotion to Assistant Manager.
Former Birmingham player Broadhurst has joined from Northampton Town where he was assistant manager to Kevin Wilson, but left on November 2nd this year. He had been at Northampton for 4 years, firstly as Chief Scout, then as Youth Team manager, followed by becoming First Team Coach, before briefly becoming joint manager with Wilson after Ian Atkins departure, and finally as Wilson's assistant which included a Division 3 promotion winning season in 1999/2000. Broadhurst has previously worked with Lil Fuccillo at Birmingham when he was Youth Team Manager.
About his departure from Northampton, Broadhurst said "About a month ago we had a parting of the ways as they say, which was very disappointing, but that’s football and you have to move on."
Claret Bloodbath at 11:24:40 Thursday December 7 2000
I have set up an email point for anyone who wants to send in messages of support for the end of Wilson.The addy sits above.With enough support I am prepared to go to the club and put the view forward.Don't be shy and don't drag it out Wilson must go and must go now he has not got the calibre to take us where we belong.WILSON OUT NOW....
Claret Bloodbath at 10:57:29 Thursday December 7 2000
So another loss when do people begin to realise the Club comes first ?Wilson must resign and admit defeat, he is NOT up to the job at hand.The quality of his inherited and purchased squad does not allow the type of results we are achieving.Ray,stand up and be counted,use your contacts if you have any to sort out this mess.The fans deserve more,the players deserve more nay the TOWN deserves more.STOP the bleeding now before everyone else is baying for blood via Division bloody # again. WILSON OUT NOW ....
Mr. Smith at 9:36:52 Thursday December 7 2000
Dave Savage is a really good player. I think that he should have started the game at Millwall. My opinions on Millwall fans has now changed. I went to the Millwall game and i was very pleased about the way they greated their x-player. They may him feel at home. Keep it up Millwall!!!!
Vince at 9:7:3 Thursday December 7 2000
Following comments made yesterday that Adam Blackmore mentioned the LDV Vans compo final being played at Wembley he may be right - according to newspaper reports due to problems with finance the demolition work which should have been completed last month has not even started and the pitch may be relaid and Wembley used for next years FA Cup final. If this happens presumably it will also be used for other cup and play off finals.
Anon at 8:55:39 Thursday December 7 2000
Bring back Heggsy. Bring back John Gayle. Bring back Jason White. Bring back Larry. Bring back Woody. Brink back Razor. Get rid of Howard. Get rid of Clare. Get rid Of Green
Anon at 7:50:57 Thursday December 7 2000
A regular place has to be found for Gabbiadini & only then will he get back to his true form.
Tartan Flask at 23:51:42 Wednesday December 6 2000
Looks like football in Northants is somewhat lacking at the moment. Bunch of arse! I'm off to get married i think...
COME HOME IAN!!!!! at 23:33:31 Wednesday December 6 2000
Listen everyone there is only one man who can get are season back on the right track. I know he still works at Carlisle but lets see if we can get him back. Stranger thing have happened?
Sonny at 22:50:13 Wednesday December 6 2000
Please!
Sonny at 22:48:59 Wednesday December 6 2000
I do not understand Hartwell's desire to bring in a coach to work alongside Wilson. Who do you think we are Barcelona? Wilson's job is surely to coach the damn team if he cannot do that then . . . If I am not performing well at work I do not expect the business to employ someone to work alongside me!!!! Gabbiadini is a proven scorer and a good all round player, KEEP HIM, players like Marco do not come around too often. If you ask me, which you haven't, there is a nasty smell coming out of the dressing room, and it's not Sammo's pants! Can we just get this sorted and get back to enjoying our football Mr Stonhill?
9224 at 20:54:29 Wednesday December 6 2000
Wilson should not consider offloading Marco. So he doesn't score a lot (YET!!! I hasten to add) The man is a quality player and no-one in our price bracket could replace him. He still has 2.5 years to "prove his worth" I think he links up well with Forrester but would be better used behind Jamie and Stevie. Clare can deputise for Hodgie and his loan month should cover us until the Hodge returns
Anon at 19:25:7 Wednesday December 6 2000
Even with 22 men we can't win
rachel at 19:6:22 Wednesday December 6 2000
The team last night was: Sollitt, Hughes, Spedding, Sammo, Hope, Green, Hargreaves, Gould, Morrow, Howard, Gabbiadini, Subs: Savage, Clare, un-used: Thompson, Nash, Laws
Anon at 19:6:11 Wednesday December 6 2000
The team last night was: Sollitt, Hughes, Spedding, Sammo, Hope, Green, Hargreaves, Gould, Morrow, Howard, Gabbiadini, Subs: Savage, Clare, un-used: Thompson, Nash, Laws
The Drilling Cobbler at 18:24:47 Wednesday December 6 2000
Hartwell, spot on with your point about getting the best out of what we have before we worry about bringing in new faces. Quite honestly, if Rivaldo had played for us in the last 4 games I dont think it would have changed any of the results. We have talented enough players already in my view to sustain a serious promotion bid - what other teams can claim to have strikers of the calibre that we currently have, a goalkeeper as capable of Welch, a player of Hunts capability to play the midfield holding role, a winger as skilful as John Hodge, defenders as solid as Sammo and Hope etc. The likes of Savage and Hargrieves have more than enough ability to create and score goals, the simple problem is that these talented individuals are not presently performing as a team. This is down to poor coaching, inadequate tactical planning and not having any kind of game plan to beat specific opposition. Kev W is 100percent responsible for these failures mentioned, failures that previously didnt exist. People can make their own assumptions as to why this is now the case, it is down to the board to address these problems and recruit someone to work alongside Kev and rectify them.
Ray at 17:55:46 Wednesday December 6 2000
Jamie didnt play last night as he was being rested.
a little birdie told me ! at 17:20:51 Wednesday December 6 2000
Allegedly, Mr Wilson has been trying to offload Marco to Swindon. if this is true, this will be another spectacular financial cock-up for the Club. MG has 2.5 years to run on a £165,000 per year contract and he does'nt even get a game. Me thinks something smells! And while we are on the subject of good decisions by the board, apparently IA & KB wanted to bring Bobby Zamora to the club but Barry Hancock put a stop on it cos he did'nt think BZ was good enough.
The Romsey Cobbler at 17:14:26 Wednesday December 6 2000
Shropshire Cobbler, I can answer your question.....Rubbish, apparently.
Hartwell at 17:6:53 Wednesday December 6 2000
Sibs' enquired about whether we have the readies to buy any more players. I personally doubt it, unless the couple of very generous and more well-healed fans behind the scenes once again stump up. I don't know the actual figures but I understand we are losing money this season. One factor being that crowds have not met budget expectations by a long way. Whether the projections were, like those of the dome, wildly olptimistic, again I just don't know. Whatever, we are in a dilemma - we certainly need several new faces but we also badly need a coach to help willo. it's a catch 22 situation, isn't it ? if we can, somehow, manage to find extra cash to buy new players we're hardly likely to get any real benefit from them unless we have a system that a)the players understand b)suits their individual and collective abilities and which they are capable of playing to. I think until we address the tactical problems we aren't even going to get the best out of what we've already got, let alone any new faces.
The Shropshire Cobbler at 16:31:2 Wednesday December 6 2000
Anybody know what the team was last night?
Ray at 15:44:41 Wednesday December 6 2000
Thats my fault. I'll do it asap
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:37:54 Wednesday December 6 2000
Ray, is it possibel taht the club could update the Reserves/Youth fixtures page, as it is blank at the moment1
Lancaster Cobbler at 15:33:12 Wednesday December 6 2000
I think Michael Laws is an stiriker from Newcastle, he was in either the Brentford, Notts Co, or Reading programme.
Ray at 15:14:14 Wednesday December 6 2000
I have no idea who Laws is...sorry.
Sibs at 15:6:37 Wednesday December 6 2000
Just wandered through the official site and the squad list. Ray - is Laws to be added?? I assume as he was on the bench he was given a squad number?
Sibs at 15:4:18 Wednesday December 6 2000
Lancaster Cobbler - Savage started off valued the most at £450k and kept playing a blinder average rating in the league off 8/10, goals assists etc... clubs offered i kept saying no. Value went to about £800k got offered £1.5 mill+ negotiated up to £2mill!! Like i said before not like real life eh? My appologies for those i'm boring. Back to keepers - If Sollit was injured what would have happened?? Any ideas? Always have a keeper on the bench i reckon.
Lancaster Cobbler at 14:49:38 Wednesday December 6 2000
Ray, is there anything you can do to stop those idiots you have just deleted?
Stunned at 13:32:55 Wednesday December 6 2000
Yes I have seen all that. Warren Patmore is scoring hundreds for Yeovil - bring him back too? Perhaps Chesterfield are better than us or perhaps Parrish has no defensive duties, but he didn't score many hattricks for us. He made one or two sweet left foot passes and scored a few nice goals, but he made 7 tackles in all the time he was here, had two paces, slow and slower, missed 31 open goals because his right foot was worse than useless.....I could go on!
Boris at 13:11:13 Wednesday December 6 2000
It's true you know. I shall be at Oxford in the away end to cheer on the mighty Cobblers as I did at Brighton, Torquay (going up weekend in home end....ooops) and the worst ground I have seen this year at Brizzzell Rovers.
Lancaster Cobbler at 13:0:45 Wednesday December 6 2000
Stewpot - yes it is Andy Preece, as for Sibs how the hell did you get to sell Savage for £2million. Ryan Thompson is a striker, so is Michael Laws and I think Ryan Nash is a defender.
Pompey Cobbler at 12:26:5 Wednesday December 6 2000
Fear not, our troubles are over. My mate Boris is coming with me to the Oxford game - he has been to three away games with me and we have won all three. My Dad is not coming with me as the last three games I have been to with him we have lost 1-0
No1 Cobbler at 11:49:41 Wednesday December 6 2000
When are Hunter and Howey back. Sooner the better
Mark Jones at 11:47:27 Wednesday December 6 2000
I am a Millwall fan and i would like to thank you for such a wonderfull win you gave us. We needed something to get our confidence up because we have not been porforming well in recent matches but been geting the win.
THANK YOU
Sibs at 10:30:29 Wednesday December 6 2000
Does anyone know if the club has the finances to purchase players?? or can we only loan them? Port Vale seem to be haveing a strange idea of wanting to sell off 7 squad members.first teamers!!, but i don't think it's the managers decision... one of them being a RightBack in Liam Burns - maybe he'd be ok for us??
Sibs at 10:27:58 Wednesday December 6 2000
Was just wondering... looking at the bench from the millwall match - is Laws the third keeper?? Thompson and Nash are outfield players arn't they?? Or did we not have a keeper on the bench?? Less seriously, someone mentioned ChampManager - i got us promoted too and won the LDV/autowatsit - selling savage to leicester for £2mill helped, along with a fit hunter and signing Ronnie Wallwork to play infront of a back 4 after release from Man U... such is the fantasy world eh?
Ray at 10:27:54 Wednesday December 6 2000
Nope - not yet. Sorry
Northampton Gas at 10:9:26 Wednesday December 6 2000
Thanks Ray. Are you in a position to confirm why Forrester was not playing last night?
Ray at 10:3:56 Wednesday December 6 2000
OFFICIAL: Todays reserve match has been postponed.
Anon at 9:49:39 Wednesday December 6 2000
We wish we knew.....
Bill from Millwall at 9:42:8 Wednesday December 6 2000
What on earth is going on with the Cobblers? I would count you as my second team. I know it was only LDV transit vans cup but the confidence of your players has collapsed. Granted, Millwall are a different side to the one that lost to you under our old management duo. But, we did not field anything like a full strength side. Good luck against Rotherham. I thought that we would be well prepared but last Sat they turned us over 3-2. Bill.
Anon at 9:14:2 Wednesday December 6 2000
Play Gould on Saturday instead of Frain. He's the only one who can score a,d he's only reserve
Bring back Parrish at 9:13:26 Wednesday December 6 2000
STUNNED. Have you been paying much attention to other results. Parrish plays for Chesterfield. He used to score every week and has even scored a hat-trick for them
Northampton Gas at 8:53:6 Wednesday December 6 2000
Could someone confirm why Forrester wasn't playing last night. Was he suspended, injured or rested? Will be at 6fields this afternoon, if the reserve game against Swindon is still on.
Who was your man of the match? at 7:48:29 Wednesday December 6 2000
Mine was James Gould I think
Anon at 7:47:28 Wednesday December 6 2000
how many cobblersfans were @ the game last nite?
RaChEl at 7:41:1 Wednesday December 6 2000
I dunno why u are moaning at AB's commentry, that was the most exciting thing at last nights game-the red lights above one of the stands! + It was amamzing to see how many trains went by during the game, it was a whole load more exciting than the game itself!
Stewpot at 7:25:49 Wednesday December 6 2000
In relation to an earlier asked question the former Cobblers player who manages a second division side is Burys Andy Preece I think I am right in saying who seems to be having a bad time of it latley also. I listened to the commentry!!!!!!!!! last night I believe Millwall permantly play in white and the final wont be held at Wembley so much for journalistic nouse oh well come Saturday a diluted commentry probably with the Saints and Kettering getting the longer broadcasts with that commentater putting some meat on the bones and adding parity. Might have to start listening to Big Balls with that talented duo that Kiely what a voice!!!!!!! talent or what she dont hold no punches wouldnt want to get against her in a situation bet she could turn the air blue very quickly. This reminds me of our cup winning season under Carr once we lost all cup games we drew against Swansea in the next league match and didnt win again until it was to late and Swansea is our next league game lets hope history wont rep