Cobblers Comments
July 2002
E. N .Village boy at 23:38:28 Wednesday July 31 2002
I heard di stef is taking over on april 1st next year, to try and save you from relegation.
E. N .Village boy at 23:38:26 Wednesday July 31 2002
I heard di stef is taking over on april 1st next year, to try and save you from relegation.
Bazza at 21:58:6 Wednesday July 31 2002
To SMM & SMITHY,
My post 20.9.23 on Monday was the last of several over a number of days between myself, Ted, Drilling and others.
Ted and Drilling are articulate, intelligent people who have strong opinions and love The Cobblers. It is my contention that such people should be active in any organisation which purports to represent the fans. My suggestion was that they should join The Trust and try to change things, or to offer an alternative. Ted and Drilling are highly critical of The Trust and for various reasons are loathe to (re)join. The logical path for people with such views is not to ineffectually complain to anyone and everyone who will listen or read postings but to be organised and have an effective mouthpiece, in other words, an alternative trust/supporters club.
The Trust is not without fault. The Trust should be encouraging all fans of all opinions to join and take part in its activities, especially the articulate and intelligent. The only reactions we see here to comments which are critical of The Trust are along the lines of, ‘It’s my trust and I’m going home.’ How do members expect anyone to support them when they are so defensive and insular? Trust membership is (I think) about 2000. Can it really claim to be representative until membership is at least 4500?
Good luck to George Best and get well soon.
Ted at 21:20:48 Wednesday July 31 2002
Unlike some people,I only post using the same name.It would be so much easier if everyone would do the same,you could then identify who you were slagging off.By the way there seems to be alot of bitter and twisted people on this site at the moment.I`ve come to the conclusion that they`re either fans from other clubs who don`t like the idea that we are perhaps having a change of fortune, and can look forward to the season with a little optimism.Or they are Trusty`s whose credibility is disappearing as quickly as you can say GDS.
No Ted at 21:10:20 Wednesday July 31 2002
No Ted,imaginery friends do not count, nor for that matter does a one handed shuffle count as sex with someone you love.
HAHA! Greedy Footballers look stupid at 20:56:41 Wednesday July 31 2002
i know welch might have been the best keepeer to have ever played for us and hunter was good (back before his injurys) but.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! i bet they both feel a bit silly now, with no wages for the last month and none on the horizon. Maybe next time they won't try to hold clubs to ransom? although i actually hope there isn't a next time with hunter. having met and talked to the arrogant arsehole i hope he doesn't play professional football again.
Hargreaves is great at 20:38:37 Wednesday July 31 2002
TYPICALLY CYNICAL COBBLER If somone offered to double your wages what would you do?
DavCobbler at 20:31:5 Wednesday July 31 2002
Silly me, I almost forgot; has anyone seen my golf clubs???? FTP
DavCobbler at 20:28:9 Wednesday July 31 2002
I can hereby confirm that EastcoteCobbler attends all home and most away games and will continue to do so this year. I thank you, please let the drivel continue in my absence..............
NTFC@2view at 20:24:46 Wednesday July 31 2002
Noncie, are you working overtime? Long shift - but you are a man with a proper job. Someone has to keep the sewers flowing. How long did I take to reply?
Ted at 19:43:4 Wednesday July 31 2002
Bloody hell! I`ve got a mate.
In Theory? at 19:42:1 Wednesday July 31 2002
Teds mate, why dont you just post as Ted? we know its you as soon as you start your trusties nondense. anon the problem with "in theory" is that it also means "but probably not in practice" The club have said GDS's money is still not operative, and last night in my opinion was just about preparing the ground to enable the club to say we made it possible but GDS did not stump up the cash. The problem is you can make any comment seem positive. One strange thing about last night was when Stonhill said if GDS takes over then he will be very hands on and be attending games? GDS says he wont, so one of them is telling porkies. Also no one has picked up on GDS saying the money is there and the club saying it is not? so one of them are telling porkies. and so it goes on.
TEDS MATE at 18:42:46 Wednesday July 31 2002
I was at that meeting last night & i thoought it went well, Apart from a few dick heads, i,e Steve Riches, Anthony Collett + a couple of Tustee's who did'nt have the guts to stand up & respond to a couple of questions. Where was the elusive Mr Linnel, Mr Clarke M.P. & Mr O'reily?
Anon at 18:34:14 Wednesday July 31 2002
Anon obviously attended a different meeting.
Anon at 18:20:47 Wednesday July 31 2002
To contact GDS directly pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Anon at 18:19:57 Wednesday July 31 2002
Town chairman Barry Stonhill and chief executive Gary Hodder have said Giovanni di Stefano's Cobblers takeover will be concluded on August 19.
Speaking at a fans forum at Sixfields on Tuesday night, the two men answered questions from 150 supporters in attendance and insisted that the takeover was agreed in July and the Extroadinary General Meeting, set for August 19, was not completely necessary, but would seal the takeover.
Stonhill said: "Our legal advisors told us we did not need an EGM but we have called the meeting to remove any doubt.
"Until August 19, nothing will happen. In theory on August 20, Mr Di Stefano will proceed with the takeover."
He also added that Di Stefano has promised money for transfers as soon as he takes over with manager Kevan Broadhurst currently restricted in the players he can bring to the club.
The Drilling Cobbler at 17:43:42 Wednesday July 31 2002
Regarding Welch, I think it is often the case that clubs(especially in the lower leagues) only spend 'big money' on match winners, ie players who score lots of goals or create loads of chances. It is rare when a 2nd/3rd division club will bust its wage structure to sign a 33year old keeper who has never played at the top level. Lets face it, we all know how good he is but outside of Northampton and perhaps Bristol his profile is pretty much zero. Hence why he hasnt been inundated with lucrative offers. I would not be at all surprised if he ends up playing non league football next season which would be a real shame - I guess it sends a huge message out to other players who perhaps think about holding out for more money in the future. I actually feel really sorry for Harper because if he makes one mistake early on the boo boys will start at him in the same way as they did with Howard and his confidence could be ruined. Best to forget Welch - Harper is our number 1 now and should not be compared with arguably NTFC's best ever keeper(as some would have it).
Double Standards? at 16:49:9 Wednesday July 31 2002
Does anyone have any idea where Welch may be going, I can't beleive he turned down an offer from NTFC unless he had another club sorted out. (although Savage did!).
NTFC@2view at 16:43:47 Wednesday July 31 2002
Honestly 9224, with money about, your first targets would be Hunter and Hodge - after Welchie of course?
NTFC@2view at 16:41:23 Wednesday July 31 2002
Tell me something EASTCOTEOBBLER, do you actually bother to attend games? [;)]
9224 at 16:32:17 Wednesday July 31 2002
and a nice long contract for Stevie Morison, come to think of it
9224 at 16:29:55 Wednesday July 31 2002
If the GdS money comes through, the first and second things we do should be to re-sign Welch and then re-sign Hunter. I personally would re-sign Hodge but, being realistic, that's never going to happen.
Dave at 16:17:32 Wednesday July 31 2002
He hasn't annoyed me as much as Collett. Who does THAT bloke think he is?
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 16:12:4 Wednesday July 31 2002
Just when I thought all the inane drivel on this site was turning at last to on the field activities and team affairs. The lunatics appear to be out of the asylum, what has Gareth Willsher done to anybody here to deserve some of the tirades he often gets.
TYPICALLY CYNICAL COBBLER at 16:8:41 Wednesday July 31 2002
Don't get me wrong I am as delighted as anyone about Hargreaves signing although he probably did have other offers from clubs he chose to stay here, but come on if a double your money offer came in from a London club or Luton Oxford etc etc he would have gone no doubt, and presumely still would if a transfer bid came in during the next two seasons. I know "the king is dead long live the king" attitude must prevail over Welchie but seriously he seems to have made a big mistake maybe he should change agents, because for a keeper as good as him to be clubless would appear to be a travesty.....
Brian at 15:53:48 Wednesday July 31 2002
i would like to say who the f*ck is tom barry. are you willsher in disguise?
Brian at 15:53:46 Wednesday July 31 2002
i would like to say who the f*ck is tom barry. are you willsher in disguise?
NTFC@2view at 15:41:51 Wednesday July 31 2002
Yes, he should travel away in a Peterborough tracksuit and call himself Just an Ordinary Media Guy! Did you apply for the job and fail? Bitchy, bitchy! (And before you say it - yes I am Gareth.)
Gareth at 14:53:12 Wednesday July 31 2002
Dont worry folks - you wont have to listen to me any more - unless you pay for the "service" of live commentaries.
Gareth at 14:41:46 Wednesday July 31 2002
I think the main reason drilling is that he likes to think he is something he is not, for instance travelling to all away games with the team in a club tracksuit!! Starting every live commentary by telling us how important his job is ie head of media. And worst of all his style of treating the fan base as idiots by posting crap news and leading people on ie the worthy cup fiasco. He is also annoying with his may or may not, could or could not and his it would be inappropriate for the club to comment and then he does. Also a blind man can see through his made up postings on the official site, when he agrees with himself and the club and says everythings brill. Apart from all that I suppose hes not a bad bloke!!
MBD at 14:37:8 Wednesday July 31 2002
Got to agree with the post below. Like most of us he has a duty to his employer to do what he's told - when your mortgage needs paying I'm pretty sure that's what anyone would do. (And before anyone accuses me I am not Gareth posting under a pseudonym)
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:23:43 Wednesday July 31 2002
Had a chuckle at that post as well! Out of interest, why do so many people on this site(then again, it could be the same one) show such disclike towards 'Gareth'. I dont actually know the bloke, but he must have done something really bad to have fuelled such hatred! After all, he is just doing his job and being in the front line with no authority is always difficult - like anyone who works for a call centre, shop assistant, receptionist etc. Let the guy get on with it - he poses no harm ad like the rest of us is he is a Cobblers supporter. It is those in the background who people should be annoyed with - not a mere spokesman for the club. Covering up Hodders '7 day deadlines' and Stonhills contrasting statements must be the job from hell!
Unbelievable at 13:15:17 Wednesday July 31 2002
Some Dork called Phil is actually posting on the official site congratulating the club "for the terrific way they have handled the takeover" Where does Gareth find these people? We all have different views on whether GDS should or shouldn't come in but to parade the debable we have just witnessed as something to be congratulated is the result of either a deranged mind or an over inflated ego at work within the club, either way posts like that just make the club look silly
BIG JIM at 12:22:31 Wednesday July 31 2002
Pishboro` have taken Bradley Allen and Paul Dalglish on trial......more attackers
NTFC@2view at 12:7:11 Wednesday July 31 2002
You're absolutely right Gomez. I think it was totally wrong - stupid even - to not play a friendly in MK. Write and tell them.
NTFC@2view at 12:4:8 Wednesday July 31 2002
"Well im going to do something you will hate now, i'm going to do some real work, see you this evening!" At 10:51:12. Funny time to start work! "Real work" - a coalminer, fireman, something really macho? Or interior design, dressmaking, something artistic? Probably not. Perhaps I'll never know and certainly never care. By the way, you did jolly well to copy and paste my whole message. Not a single mistake. "Sordid" eh? Pretty good word. I don't use dictionary or Thesaurus. Has it not occurred to you that some people naturally write and spell correctly? I hope your day goes well and - please -try to rid yourself of this obsession with me. It really is unhealthy!
rdfc village boy at 11:15:17 Wednesday July 31 2002
people like stonhill, hodder know whats happening in mk, gomez, but what the hell can they do about it? likewise they know about RDFC but there again what the hell can they do about it? in this life you sometimes have to accept your lot the way it is.
NTFC2 the Nonce at 10:51:12 Wednesday July 31 2002
It took you only 1 hour and 19 minutes to respond, is that when your sordid day begins, poised over the computer, dictionary and Thesaurus - get a life Nonce, I think I know who you are your Mad Frank or the guy in the dirty mac (can I just put mac is that ok, nonce) that used to frequent the Monkey House in Abington Park. Well im going to do something you will hate now, i'm going to do some real work, see you this evening!
"Cráp! Football speak my árse. Illiterate is illiterate whatever the subject. It doesn't take me long to make a post - I would guess you've been up since getting back from the pub doing yours! Most you've written in your life I suspect. It seems to be in general use, 'monging', or words like it. Is it the modern version of 'spaz'? Or just among 'football speakers'?"
Double Standards? at 10:31:34 Wednesday July 31 2002
Having attended last mights meeting I was left with the impression that Stonhill thinks the GDS deal is not going ahead. Talk about raising money from fans and local companies and when NTFC would have to sell season tickets for the 2003/04 season. The EGM is to update the articles of association and not to vote on the sale to GDS and the banking situation is very vague. According to Stonhill he Tom Barry bid (now admitting that this does actually exist) is regarded as unworkable. By the friday after the EGM we should know if GDS is taking over but if he doesn't then dusting down the collection buckets maybe the next move.
Anon at 10:13:29 Wednesday July 31 2002
My Distorted 2View at 10:5:54 Wednesday July 31 2002
I have no sympathy for the victims of ethnic cleansing, but mention the word mong and that makes me really mad.
NTFC@2view at 7:46:29 Wednesday July 31 2002
Cráp! Football speak my árse. Illiterate is illiterate whatever the subject. It doesn't take me long to make a post - I would guess you've been up since getting back from the pub doing yours! Most you've written in your life I suspect. It seems to be in general use, 'monging', or words like it. Is it the modern version of 'spaz'? Or just among 'football speakers'?
EMails/Message boards at 6:37:19 Wednesday July 31 2002
NTFC2 seems to think that every posting on here has to be to a high standard of literacy, thats never been the point, its trying to get the message over, and football speak is often unsound in terms of commas and full stops, verbs and pronouns. Well NTFC2 unemployed and who only has a life (if you can call it that) on this site you may have all the time in the world deliberating on your postings, or an education based on good grammer but not everyone has the inclination or maybe the education to write nicely, who cares a monging shit. You may think you are a superior shit but not many others would agree with your self indulgent well written ramblings, at your age its probably to late for you to see that you are not liked, so get back in your off Kettering Road bedsit and get out the PlayBoy and stick those pages Saddo! I bet you stood in the Spion Kop as you were scared of the HotelEnd!!! Cobblers!!!
RUBBER DUCK at 23:36:54 Tuesday July 30 2002
O yeah the res won at bicester 6 0 morison hat-trick, gabbi, lowe(pen) & kahn
RUBBER DUCK at 23:32:16 Tuesday July 30 2002
So it all boils down to an EGM. Where shareholders will probably go for GDS to take over, then GDS takes it on or runs for the hills. And then we are naked ask for handouts from season ticket holders, surporter clubs & businesses in the town. Did we all know this?
Anon at 23:30:58 Tuesday July 30 2002
I think the fact that 25 % of Season Tickets holders are from MK says a lot!!!!!
smithy at 23:27:15 Tuesday July 30 2002
I've driven around Milton Keynes for the past 18 months as my job, and although the main roads through don't have paths, I have only ever seen 2 Cobblers shirts there. I don't know why the club doesn't lay on free (or subsidised) transport from there. It should at least have, if not a fully blown ticket outlet, then some sort of ticket booth or whatever. p.s I think that Doctor Feelgood still thinks that the takeover went through on July 1st.
Gomez at 23:15:57 Tuesday July 30 2002
Well most people I know in MK follow The Cobblers, Luton and to a lesser extent Arsenal. The board shouldn't be ignorant to the fact that a good many casual fans will be lost THIS YEAR. FOR CHRIST SAKE, INCREASE THE PROFILE IN MK NOW OR MISS OUT BIG TIME!!!!!!!!
Ray at 23:14:43 Tuesday July 30 2002
Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm pleased to announce the continuation for another season of the popular Tipping Competition.
Anon at 23:9:28 Tuesday July 30 2002
I wouldn`t worry to much about Franchise FC .They have sold only 128 season tickets to date,and are being shunned by the rest of the football world.I doubt they can attract many supporters in MK.I live there and most of those that I know follow Spurs and Arsenal.
Gomez at 22:54:31 Tuesday July 30 2002
I would worry about the answer to the final question about Wimbledon moving to Milton Keynes. The reply came: we're not worried, it'll take at least 3 years. I know for a fact that a planning application has already been lodged with the local council for Wimbledon to begin playing at a 12000 seater temporary stadium at Milton Keynes Bowl from September THIS year. WHY don't people like Stonhill, Hodder etc. know this when it is common knowledge to those that wish to find out about these things.
Ted at 22:54:12 Tuesday July 30 2002
Well ,I think Gareth does a great job.
Anon at 22:47:11 Tuesday July 30 2002
To contact GDS directly pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
LIVE WEBCAST at 22:42:14 Tuesday July 30 2002
Hello, THIS IS GARETH WILSHER "HEAD" of Media management, and to are listening to alive webcast of Tonights meeting. ALL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, any one who disagrees will be severely dealt with. The club reserves the right to sya that this may or may not be the truth subject to a technical crossing of the I's and dotting of the T's in 7 days time. THIS IS GARETH WILSHER HEAD OF MEDIA< HEAD OF MEDIA< HEAD OF MEDIA< I WILL BE LISTENED TO!!!!!!!
NTFC@2view at 22:35:0 Tuesday July 30 2002
Cheers Fog.
Thanks Birdy at 22:33:40 Tuesday July 30 2002
Thanks Birdy, but I think you may be lost the sychophants post board is at WWW.ntfc.co.uk. "God bless you GDS You are my Hero" I agree says JRA etc etc
Fog at 22:30:56 Tuesday July 30 2002
ntfc@2view, the impression I got mate was that the audience could not give a shit about who took over but they just wante some answers and each and every question was answered with, Subject to this and subject to that, and in the main the club seem to be backtracking and preparing the ground to say it has not happened and it's not our fault.
Birdy at 22:29:20 Tuesday July 30 2002
I did attend the meeting and would like to thank the clubs representives for their time and honest answers.
NTFC@2view at 22:28:45 Tuesday July 30 2002
I think he's earning a crust again in the High Court.
NTFC@2view at 22:27:34 Tuesday July 30 2002
Crossed wires Fog. I was asking you to provide the answers the official site didn't print. I wanted to know if 'Tonight's meeting' was pleased that GdS might not take over.
How? at 22:26:38 Tuesday July 30 2002
How can things be going so well on the pitch (when the season starts) and yet off the pitch civil war is still breaking out? The 19th is too late to resolve this we need a conclusion one way or another before the season starts. PS has GDS fell off his horse again?
Ted at 22:24:55 Tuesday July 30 2002
PS Don`t get me going on that Trust thing again.Anyway I think the`re finished!
NTFC@2view at 22:24:16 Tuesday July 30 2002
'Shifting Sands' - Ted's big enough to answer for himself, but you seem to constantly misrepresent any opinion not your own. GdS was, and still is, the only person bidding to put money into NTFC. If he fails to do so we are back to square one. Ted 'supports' him as I do for the benefit of the club. If X comes along Ted will probably 'support' him. I will. We need some money. If he doesn't take over Mr Stonhill said he'll have to ask you (demo on the pitch for a raise in ticket prices. Remember?) or Northamptonshire business (Carlsberg to give us more and Liverpool less? I think not.) Sorry Ted.
Including he Trust? at 22:22:58 Tuesday July 30 2002
Ted does that include the Trust.ie don't care where the money comes from?
Ted at 22:22:13 Tuesday July 30 2002
PS Don`t get me going on that Trust thing again.Anyway I think the`re finished!
Fog at 22:21:36 Tuesday July 30 2002
Pleased?..... not. There were toom many clever answers and ifs and buts for my liking. Its obvious that the club are at odds with GDS and are appealing to the fans to back there version of events. The stuff about the egm confirms that it is a farce and wont even mention the GDS takeover and the club seem to be taking the same line as the fans did 3 weeks ago, ie put up or shut up and if you don't put up then its your fault not ours.
Ted at 22:19:30 Tuesday July 30 2002
I have always took the same stance regarding the GDS Takeover.If he is prepared to put money in to improve my club,I have no problem with that.Equally if it was that Barry chap I wouldn`t have any problems with it.I think nearly all fans just want to see the club progress and don`t really care where the money comes from.
NTFC@2view at 22:17:15 Tuesday July 30 2002
Joke post, right 'Divided'? Joke post, right 'Just'? 'Fog', give us the other answers then! 'Tonights meeting', pleased or not?
Shifting Sands at 22:12:1 Tuesday July 30 2002
Blimey Ted thats a huge shift up to now you have been GDS's minnie me, now all of a sudden you support NTFC and not who owns it? In other words you always knew he was a wrong un but up until now you found it impolite to mention it.
Informality at 22:9:30 Tuesday July 30 2002
The problem with informality is that it is the friend of indifference, in other words, being asked if you want to be hung or shot does not get you out of the grip of the executioner
Ted at 22:8:30 Tuesday July 30 2002
Personally I support NTFC not the man who owns it.
The Fog Deepens at 22:7:28 Tuesday July 30 2002
You can't see anything in a fog, only the hand in front of your face if you are lucky. instead of disagreeing why doesn't some one post there own view of tonights meeting?
I Was There at 22:6:16 Tuesday July 30 2002
An informal show of hands at the meeting showed virtually everyone in attendance was in favour of Mr Di Stefano`s takeover bid.
Divided We Fall at 22:5:29 Tuesday July 30 2002
Ted, good to see you posting positive comments for a change and you didn't slag the trust off once!!, but the GDS takeover will still divide fans fans whatever their view so in my mind, and I don't think I am alone, the only way to unite the fans is if GDS exits left, then we can all get behind the team. his continued presence just continues the unrest. He is like a gigantic boil that needs lancing. Pass me a pin.
Anon at 22:1:10 Tuesday July 30 2002
Fog you just see what you want to see .Fog !
everyone and anon at 22:1:2 Tuesday July 30 2002
anon if you went to the meeting why post as anon? if your version differs post it, saying Ignore the truth is hardly a good way of saying anything different happened.
Fog at 21:58:41 Tuesday July 30 2002
Can't see that the lack of clear answers at Sixfields leads us any further towards the truth. The official site spin just makes matters worse by only printing answers ton the questions the club wanted to answer. My best guess after attending is that the deal wont happen and Stonhill and Hodder nwere just preparing the ground and drawing up an exit route for when it all falls down. Its obvious that the club and GDS are no longer talking and as such they are conducting a love in with the fans to divert the blame, any one else there who can confirm?
For sale: at 21:56:54 Tuesday July 30 2002
One box of assorted dots and crosses. Would suit someone with some i's and t's that need completion. Never used. Serious offers only to G. Hodder c/o NTFC.
Anon at 21:56:23 Tuesday July 30 2002
EVERYONE Just ignore Tonights Meetings post below.I very much doubt he even went.
Anon at 21:50:42 Tuesday July 30 2002
Bloody Hell! A sensible post from ted.
Tonights meeting at 21:48:37 Tuesday July 30 2002
Oh Dear, just returned from the meeting and the pub, Stonhill spent all night saying if GDS doesn,t show us the colour of his money we will do this, and Gary Hodder as good as said GDS was yesterdays news. also the egm on the 19th will not discuss the GDS takeover, but has been called to renew the articles of association. seems like we have been led up the garden path again.
Just for the record at 21:38:59 Tuesday July 30 2002
NTFC@2view - the term Mongoloid also refers to one of the 3 major racial groups of mankind, characterised by yellowish complexion, straight black hair, slanting eyes and scanty facial hair, including most of the peoples of Asia, the Eskimos and the North American Indians. I suggest you make absolutely sure of your facts before making such serious accusations.
Ted at 21:32:42 Tuesday July 30 2002
PS That was me below.
Anon at 21:31:38 Tuesday July 30 2002
Looks like a good day for everyone involved in NTFC .Great news with Chris re-signing ,and it appears that finally the Takeover is finally nearing its conclusion.There will no doubt be cynics like that Tw*t below,but I personally am quietly optimistic regarding the future on and off the pitch.I am now looking forward to taking my seat in the East Stand and cheering my beloved team on.Although I have touched a few raw nerves on this site,and perhaps annoyed a few people along the way,I trust that we can now all unite and give the manager and the team the support they need.
Bazza at 20:47:33 Tuesday July 30 2002
I've just read NTFC@2's comment regarding GDS. I agree, he's a source of money, something we need and I don't see a long queue of other people waving their fortunes at us.
Bazza at 20:37:56 Tuesday July 30 2002
Great news about Chris Hargreaves. I echo the comments regarding the great job Kevan has done on limited resources. I think the squad, if everyone stays fit, looks stronger than last year. I also happen to know that TYPICAL CYNICAL COBBLER's comments regarding family ties etc. are not without a grain of truth
Watchdog at 20:25:43 Tuesday July 30 2002
Big Deal and Advertising is clearly the same person with an obvious distaste for anyone who can afford to give the Cobblers a few quid, or any sum of money from the sound of it. First he/she infers that my donation is stumped up by the company I work for, then infers that it is tax deductible, which since the club is not a registered charity it is not. Perhaps he should ask TCMP to tap up Bill Morris and the TGWU to back the Cobblers, as GMB sponsor Fulham and Bill is after all a local lad. Would that be sufficiently politically correct?
Anon at 20:9:3 Tuesday July 30 2002
anyone back from tonights shindig? what happened?
A Childs View at 19:51:56 Tuesday July 30 2002
YEAH - HOORAH FOR RAY!!! THE BIG BOX IS BACK!!! Pleased about Hargreaves - good player and worth his place, pleased to have him back. I'm not passing any comment about the 'squad looks good, mid table etc' - we've not seen half the team actually play before - on what basis should we be confident of a better season? Once bitten twice shy when it comes to pre-season optimism I'm afraid - lets just see how things shape up! Mr cynic is probably right re Hargreaves re-signing, football is now without local identity and commitment so I'm not surprised by anything. In fairness to Chris, his comments on the official site were quite funny so he's a good lad simply for that. Lets get the most complex takover in football history concluded and start thinking about football - its been too long!!
Anon at 19:20:43 Tuesday July 30 2002
NTFC@2view isn't West Stand Dave is he?!?!?!
NTFC@2view at 18:29:50 Tuesday July 30 2002
I'm sorry to reply now - it might be 20 minutes! I'm sorry that I don't seek or want your warmth. What makes you think I don't think well of Kevan Broadhurst? I liked him from the first time I heard him speak when he came back. And it took a hell of a time for the results to improve. I still hope GdS will take over the club; to me he is a source of money. There are people I wouldn't accept it from, but I'm not going into that. If Tom Barry exists - which is not certain - I'd accept it from him. A lot of you don't seem to be able to read and understand my posts; perhaps the heavy sarcasm fools a few into thinking I'm supporting what I'm really knocking; when I've copied and pasted others' comments to have a go at them I've been accused of originating those views. But what the hell! Perhaps I should put (only joking) after some passages? Or two lots of """" to show I'm quoting. In the 45 years or so (very on and off) of watching the Cobblers I have had only 1 extended period of progress - and we all know how that ended. I only hope to live to see something like that again. To end, I quite enjoy not being warmed to and only get annoyed and frustrated by obvious misinterpretations.
Working? at 17:55:54 Tuesday July 30 2002
ntfc@2view, if you are working your boss must be mad to employ you and if your self employed you must be broke, you spend your whole life on this site. Its probably the first time in your life that any one has taken notice of you, and you can communicate whilst still hiding behind your own failings. Just say well done Kev, and perhaps GDS isn't all he is cracked up to be and admit that you sometimes get it wrong and perhaps people might warm to you
the georgemelly scotsman at 17:53:56 Tuesday July 30 2002
Yep it looks like we have a well balanced team on paper,if the mid-field can score a few goals then who knows what might happen.I think Kevan does knows what he's doing,a decent squad on very little money.So lets look forward to the Crewe game and stop f**king moaning about the trust/gds etc.Come on you cobblers.
NTFC@2view at 17:29:18 Tuesday July 30 2002
Less than that sometimes little fellow! I was asked a question and am polite enough to reply. I am working at the moment, thank you.
NTFC@2view at 17:20:37 Tuesday July 30 2002
"Best news" -Looked back at your rambling, incoherent posting again - yes, sad I know - and noticed your use of the word 'mong' (mongoloid/Downs syndrome). What an impoverished vocabulary you must have to stoop to that. I shan't be reading your stuff again!
20 minutes! at 17:18:40 Tuesday July 30 2002
Yes thats the time it takes NTFC2 to comment on any posting about him, Mr Ego!!! Get a job and get a life, no brain!
The Drilling Cobbler at 17:17:59 Tuesday July 30 2002
A bit harsh on Chris Hargrieves Mr Cynic! After all, I am sure he could have signed for either QPR or Luton and not needed to actually move. And I'm sure that if we had 11 players of Chris's calibre in the team last season, we would have finished considerably higher than 20th. Likewise with Welch and Hunt. And team carrying the likes of Gabbadini, Frain, Dempsey, McGregor and an off form Spedding is always likely to struggle. And with the injury problems coupled with such a small squad, a miricle was always needed for us to stay up. And to be fair to Frain, Gabbi and McGregor they were often played out of position which obviously didnt help their form or their confidence. And remember - the 2nd half of the season we produced results that would have made us play off contenders if we had of matched them earlier on. With Broadhurst in charge, and a midfield consisting of Trollop, Harsley and now Hargrieves, we have the skill and not just the brawn to supply what is without doubt a decent forward line. Mid table as things stand currently is where I think we finish up. Broads deserves alot of credit for assembling a squad which is better than last seasons and is some 25% cheaper.
Roly at 17:16:17 Tuesday July 30 2002
Hes off to South Africa, and not all donated programmes made it to the programme table then to the club!
NTFC@2view at 17:4:6 Tuesday July 30 2002
TYPICALLY CYNICAL COBBLER at 16:44:35 Tuesday July 30 2002 - A very unnecessary posting. People have to have a hero now and again.
NTFC@2view at 16:47:38 Tuesday July 30 2002
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 16:32:46 Tuesday July 30 2002 - Was it a particular remark I made or just your idle curiosity?
TYPICALLY CYNICAL COBBLER at 16:44:35 Tuesday July 30 2002
"97% of my decision was down to the fans of this club" Doesn't wash with me I'm afraid. Come on Chris the reason you are staying is because you are recently married, have a young child and you live local. Basically you may have been offered more at anumber of other clubs, but my guess is not enough more to uproot family home etc etc. On a similar theme makes you wonder if Welchie was trying to pull the same trick but has eneded up clubless and with egg on face. I will say again as I said earlier in the summer all these out of contract players were only good enough to finish ONE place abvove relegation...
anon at 16:37:50 Tuesday July 30 2002
try roly, the used programme seller all profits go to the club
JDS at 16:35:1 Tuesday July 30 2002
I'm splitting up my collection and have a number of Northampton home and away programmes against Colchester if anyone's interested. Thanks. jdskinner123@yahoo.co.uk
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 16:32:46 Tuesday July 30 2002
Tell me something NTFC@2VIEW, do you actually bother to attend games?
Double Standards at 14:17:23 Tuesday July 30 2002
Its great that Broadhurst is managing to assemble what looks like a very good squad on a reduced budge and the fact that players want to come to NTFC because of Broadhurst speaks volumes. Lets hope the takover debacle can be brought to a very quick conclusion so we can get on with the season. As for comments about the takeover etc etc even though I don't always agree with the likes of NTFC2 and others I still like to read their views so keep 'em comimg although I think that "Ted" needs to post on something other than anti trust - he is getting so boring.
NTFC@2view at 14:5:57 Tuesday July 30 2002
"Best news." Welcome to a new poster. Even if it doesn't meet with your approval I will continue to post my opinion about the football, the takeover and other Cobblers related matters. I will look forward to your next post under your next name. "concentrate on the soccer" - American perhaps? "...the soap opera of fash/GDS, Warlords, Tom Dick...." "...BORING..." "...the Soap Opera Roller Coaster called Cobblersdale Farm..." Ah! So you like SOME soap opera then? Your next name could be 'George Dubya' or 'Confused'.
Best news! at 13:45:58 Tuesday July 30 2002
There are just a few players that over the past few years I coulnt work out how they could get into the side and how they had the cheek to accept pay, one of them McGregor is still there, the other Spedding on occassions has improved, last season Chris Hargreaves was a revelation, and I think he was returning from injury and not fully fit, he was a 100% Cobbler, as was Hunt, but he lacked many of Chriss qualities. best of luck to hunty. My only regret is Welchy, what a keeper, he beats them all Starling Book Brown Morritt mcParland Harvey Coe et al. The secret to our season will be if the midfield contribute a few more goals, of course that wont be as vital as it was last season is if our forwards regularly score. This is a very negative site, perhaps my views on McGregor are such but like Irish Dave who went to Oxford what a waste of talent, I bet they were like Christian Lee gods in training mongs on the pitch. I think this is the best squad in years. So please concentrate on the soccer, the soap opera of fash/GDS, Warlords, Tom Dick and Barry, The Trust, Wiltshire, Rodders, travel Clubs may stimulate a very few but for most Cobbs who come on this site it is BORING, we Cobbs love Football and the Cobblers, we accept that the structure needs to be solid, but come on we are the Cobblers, it would be boring if it was all sensible stuff behind the scenes, it never changes season after season the Soap Opera Roller Coaster called Cobblersdale Farm. I cant wait for the Crewe game, a good manager who could be one of our best yet and a potentially solid team. So Anon, NTFC2Twat, just go somewhere else as you just dont help the cause with your ego loaded postings.
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 13:36:35 Tuesday July 30 2002
Surely "well done Broads" should also read "well done Board" after all Kevan doesn't pay the wages and should Hargreaves had not have signed Coates woul have done...... What about Abbey?
Well done Broads! at 13:21:5 Tuesday July 30 2002
At least we have a manager who has a grip on the reality of the situation and has been able to persuade last season's player of the year to re-sign. Thank god Broads has had the sense to overlook the improbable platitudes from GDS and has got on with the job in hand.
LH at 13:10:43 Tuesday July 30 2002
Good news about Hargreaves. Need another center half for cover then
it looks on paper as though we have a nicely balanced squad . Injuries permitting. looking forward to seeing how the team shape is.
This is Broadhursts first chance to put 'his' team together interesting to wait & see how it all works out. My hunch is that we have a manager who knows waht he wants & knows what he is doing.
Anon at 13:5:23 Tuesday July 30 2002
what time do the fun and games start tonight anybody?
Anon at 12:44:52 Tuesday July 30 2002
who now feels confident about the upcoming season?
NTFC@2view at 12:44:27 Tuesday July 30 2002
Hello there! Pleased about Chrissy? A bit? But too good an opportunity to have a whinge! Go on, say 'Good news'. Twáts!
Hargreaves signs at 12:39:47 Tuesday July 30 2002
and we did it without GDS's cash,Kev Broadhurst has done a brilliant job in assembling a good side on a reduced budget, even after meeting GDS he has not got carried away with the mans broken promises and crass statements about internationals being available. Instead he has just got on with the job in hand fair play to him. As for GDS he is just becoming a pain in the arse he should put up or shut before the season starts so we can get on with it.
Hargreaves signs at 12:39:36 Tuesday July 30 2002
and we did it without GDS's cash,Kev Broadhurst has done a brilliant job in assembling a good side on a reduced budget, even after meeting GDS he has not got carried away with the mans broken promises and crass statements about internationals being available. Instead he has just got on with the job in hand fair play to him. As for GDS he is just becoming a pain in the arse he should put up or shut before the season starts so we can get on with it.
smithy at 12:35:30 Tuesday July 30 2002
he reminded us we were on ntfc.co.uk, in case we'd forgot in the 30 seconds since logging on. CHEERS GAZ!!!
anon at 12:34:6 Tuesday July 30 2002
anyone else noticed that gareth "i couldn't tell you well I could but i don't" willsher can't help but open every conversation with "it's gareth willsher head of media....." do you think it is to remind him who he is? perhaps he has it tatooed somewhere on his body to remind him when he gets home where he lives by checking his post to make sure he is in the right house.
smithy at 12:31:37 Tuesday July 30 2002
hargreaves signs 2 year deal
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:43:22 Tuesday July 30 2002
Anon, read Hargreaves comments in the chron. Trollope has been informed and does not mind changing his shirt number to allow Chris to have his number 20 back.
Anon at 11:33:52 Tuesday July 30 2002
THE DRILLING COBBLER. No he hasn't been given the no 20 shirt because Trollope has.
Anon at 11:30:19 Tuesday July 30 2002
The new signing will be given the number 15 shirt, seeing as that was Sollitts shirt last year I expect the announcement to be about Nathan Abbey.
dinkle the donkle at 11:29:34 Tuesday July 30 2002
it has to be shabbey abbey. sollitt wore 15 last yr so i expect he's the new number 2 and that is exactly what he is!
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:14:37 Tuesday July 30 2002
Dont think it is Hargrieves - he has been given the number 20 shirt again for next season according to the c&e. Brilliant news, a rare 'club player' in the day of many mercaneries. The fact that he insisted on having the same shirt sums up his commitment in one. The attitide of a 'fan'.
12:30 at 10:54:58 Tuesday July 30 2002
Hargreaves to be announced as 'new signing' on live webcast on official site at 12:30
LH at 10:39:5 Tuesday July 30 2002
Issues resolved . Hargreaves to re-sign.
Money at 9:31:59 Tuesday July 30 2002
So the only thing stopping Hargreaves signing is a shortage of money and Broads has to ask the directors. Well Mr GDS if you are so cock sure of yourself and you reckom you are still interested then stump up the cash. Forget this carpets and curtains crap and show a sign of intent and goodwill if you have any. You let Welch and Hunt walk away, put our player of the year?
Anon at 6:57:52 Tuesday July 30 2002
...but what would be great to know is HOW did the 'chat' between Broads and Hargreaves go this afternoon - i think we need him in the team and I hope he decided that he could still be here
Anon at 6:57:38 Tuesday July 30 2002
...but what would be great to know is HOW did the 'chat' between Broads and Hargreves go this afternoon - i think we need him in the team and I hope he decided that he could still be here
anon at 23:47:29 Monday July 29 2002
Yep, Mark the meeting is tommorrow at Sixfields. Stonhill is also gonna be there. I think he is going to say the whole thing is off, can't see any other reason for him being there. wonder how many will turn up?
TRB Mark at 23:8:37 Monday July 29 2002
Can anyone let me know about the meeting called by Hodder. Is it 2morrow? Don't ask me to go to the official site as it crashes my system. Ta!
Whoopi Goldberg at 22:36:15 Monday July 29 2002
i'm a corporate thug.
The Drilling Cobbler at 22:25:30 Monday July 29 2002
Anon, explain please?
NTFC@2view at 22:1:58 Monday July 29 2002
Speed cameras? Don't bring them up as an example of anything please. They should all be set on fire! That's as bad as talking about Peterborough pleasantly.
Anon at 21:32:10 Monday July 29 2002
OK Mr Drilling Cobbler you have floated the concept, now put your words into action. Over to you
Smithy at 21:26:28 Monday July 29 2002
Speedy Smithy at 20:47:48 Monday July 29 2002
No Smithy people like you never take responsibility for anything, you dont like speed cameras so you just moan and wish you could speed and to hell with the casualties and fatalities. You have to be more responsible man, rather than just saying "why should we come up with ideas, we don't give a shit"
It was an example. The reason that I wouldn't come up with an alternative to cameras is that it isn't my job.
Could I take it from your response then that you go around all day every day trying to find answers and solutions to all of your problems?
Cue: "isn't my job so i don't care, you should care" type answer
NTFC@2view at 21:21:34 Monday July 29 2002
Right on Drilling!
NTFC@2view at 21:19:38 Monday July 29 2002
Join you? I may be there, but I doubt it. A lot of hot air will blow and I feel it will become unpleasant.
The Drilling Cobbler at 21:19:32 Monday July 29 2002
Like it or not 'opinion/anon', 'Teds' opinions are not worthless. They just happen to be probably different to yours. I never critisise anyone on this board, just offer opinions and my justifications for having those opinions. For what its worth, in the year following McRitchie being outed and the club being on the verge of being closed down I raised over £1000 on advertising features (700 was in the first month), and contributed around £50-00 per week(100 lottery tickets at 50pence each to work colleagues/family/friends) making a total in excess of 3500 pounds. Or 1/5 of what the Trust achieved in the last 12 months. And with fairly minimal effort. That is in answer to MK Cobbler. The reason I asked for other peoples 'achievements' in terms of fund raising was not to embark in a slanging match - people keep saying if you want to change them join them and I keep saying that I've been there and was unable to. Hence why I am asking for exec members to list what fundraising activities they have (a)proposed and (b)were actually implemented. And before an 'anon' appears and says that the trust have other issues to involve itself with other than fundraising matters, again I ask people to list them. What is exactly wrong with that? As they continually point out, they are a democratically run organisation, all accounts are available at any time etc. So whats the problem in publising what is in essence the minutes of a meeting if someone requests this? And what exactly makes me a pratt by using Avon (a large locally based company) as an example of a potential sponsor 'anon'? Give yourself a name, use it everytime you post, and then maybe people can call you a pratt although it would probably upset you too much. And the reason I do not actually use my real name and give out my e-mail address is because idiots like you would abuse it.
Enough I say! at 21:1:8 Monday July 29 2002
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!
Boards at 20:56:52 Monday July 29 2002
Thanks ntfc@2view, yea I think I will go, will you join me?
opinion at 20:53:42 Monday July 29 2002
your opinions are worthless Ted
Poll at 20:52:44 Monday July 29 2002
Ray, what happened to the Poll?
Ted at 20:52:40 Monday July 29 2002
The alternative could very well be within the Trust.If they will just listen to why fans prefer to have nothing to do with them,they could then act on it .Unfortunately you can tell what many of them are like with their attitude to criticism both on this board and the Official message board.It`s the same at the Open Forums,it seems that if you are not in clique your opinion is worthless.
Advertising at 20:52:16 Monday July 29 2002
Watchdog, just perhaps rather than worrying about the lefty football revolution, the Advertisers are waiting to see if GDS is the owner before they commit themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Nationwide walk away if he takes over, and I am sure others will follow suit. perhaps you will get more for your £1000 tax deductable sponsership this year than you usually do? make it £1500 and you might become the shirt sponser.
Speedy Smithy at 20:47:48 Monday July 29 2002
No Smithy people like you never take responsibility for anything, you dont like speed cameras so you just moan and wish you could speed and to hell with the casualties and fatalities. You have to be more responsible man, rather than just saying "why should we come up with ideas, we don't give a shit"
Avon Calling at 20:44:23 Monday July 29 2002
Avon Northampton Supporters Trust? what a prat, no wonder they disagreed with his fund raising ideas all the time.
Surprise Surprise....... at 20:41:59 Monday July 29 2002
Ted's back..... guess whats on his mind.....Damn Trusties...... blah blah blah.....I know all the answers says Drilling......Then do it, dont just talk about it say the masses....No says drilling I was always outvoted.....The trust are undemocratic says Ted.....yes the majority of them did not agree with me says drilling.....Yawn bloody yawn say the rest of us.
NTFC@2view at 20:38:17 Monday July 29 2002
Tom Barry's posted e-mail address brought no response, unlike the posted address for GdS. For what that's worth.
Smithy at 20:23:40 Monday July 29 2002
dont know why it posted my first response mid sentance. i think my computers fell out with me
Watchdog at 20:21:45 Monday July 29 2002
if there are no advertising boards as the ground I guess they have all the companies been scared off by the politics of envy espoused by Big Deal. For his or her information, my donation is made on a purely personal basis. Still, no-one has come forward with any information about Tom "Lifelong" Barry.
Smithy at 20:19:59 Monday July 29 2002
Why must people who dont agree with the trust find an alternative to it before their views will be taken seriousley on this board? I don't agree with speed cameras but in order to criticise them, under the logic of certain posters on this board, I am expected to come up with an alternate way to try to reduce speeding first.
Smm at 20:14:2 Monday July 29 2002
if somebody doesn't agree with something, why must they find an alternative before their views will be taken seriousley?
Bazza at 20:9:23 Monday July 29 2002
TED/DRILLING, OK, so if everything you say about the trust is true, Then I still say there are only two alternatives. Either join and change it, which do not want to do, or offer a viable alternative.
Anon at 19:54:5 Monday July 29 2002
MKCobbler: and your constructive money raising ideas.
I think he did.
MK Cobbler at 19:43:10 Monday July 29 2002
Drilling Cobbler - it is so so easy to knock e.g. the Trust's £1,000 donation for training equipment but without it where would the equipment have come from? Ask Kevan Broadhurst and Dennis Casey what they think? I look forward with interest to hearing about your contribution financially and your constructive money raising ideas. Don't ask other people for their response let us hear your own with your history of donations.
NTFC@2view at 19:29:44 Monday July 29 2002
So Boards, those who can do? Then you suggest questions. Will you be there posing those questions?
The Drilling Cobbler at 19:25:1 Monday July 29 2002
Boards - the reason why I would not get involved with the trust now are outlined in my posts today. I would never critisise people who genuinely do put in effort to raise funds, however with 10 people on the exec committee I would suggest that a number of those are there for ego purposes or because they happen to be friends of others that are. With the exception of running a travel club and the organisation of the occasional do, what else do they actually do? Open forums frankly achieve nothing - it is always 'nice' to have the opportunity to ask the manager why he persists with John Frain or who he is thinking of signing, but I could dress up as Kevan Broadhurst and give anyone the same answer as to what they would have got from the real KB! The same can be said if its Gary Hodder/Barry Stonhill etc. Money talks, and the only way the current board or any board in the future will take the Trust seriously is if they start handing over huge cheques. Not a grand to buy some exercise equipment! I still await Steves reply to my question concerning his own input - it would also be nice if other current exec members listed their own achievements because at least then the doubters amongst us can see what possible differences we could make as individuals if we were to get involved. Another idea - why not sponsor a game which the club has found difficult to sell (ie, a re-arranged Tue night game) and 'sub-contract' out places to local business'es at premium rate. I know by sponsoring a game the sponsor has certain privilidges and passes for guests - the trust could then offer each participating business free advertising space in its own news letter for 12months, and a mention at every open forum. It would also 'introduce' business'es who perhaps cannot afford to do this on their own, therefore entering a market that the club does not. Another idea is why not seek a sponsor for the trust - surely it is worth 2grand of any companies money to sponsor it - it would then be named for instance the AVON NORTHAMPTON TOWN SUPPORTERS TRUST. Not only would it give the body more credibility and increase its exposure, the knock on effects would be immense. And to find such a sponsor would not be particularly difficult. The trust often gets mentioned in the media - both local and national - the club programme, and its existence is known throughout the entire support base of NTFC. 2GRAND IS PROBABLY UNDER SELLING IT. Think about it Steve/other exec members - the opportunities out there are huge. I've come up with 2 suggestions in 10 minutes - and I hadnt thought about it before -but as I said when I was previously involved such suggestions were never given the vote by the rest of the committee. Hence my reluctance to get involved again. And why I currently do not take the Trust seriously.
BFN at 18:57:4 Monday July 29 2002
He's certainly made more positive comments than you Ted.
Ted at 18:51:40 Monday July 29 2002
Ray..Regarding your post earlier today,I don`t pretend to have all of the answers.What I do know is that first and foremost it has got to be an organisation that is not perceived in any way,shape or form to be political,an organisation that is not perceived in any way, shape or form to be "closed shop" and an organisation that is not perceived to be old fashioned and backward thinking.Only then will the Trust attract fans like Drilling who have the experience and will to make the Trust work.As I have said before ,the Trust need to re-think then re-launch!
oldbrook cobbler at 18:49:39 Monday July 29 2002
makes a pleasent change to see some sensible discussion on here. on the harper issue my qpr mate at work says he was a quality keeper although that was 3 years ago.
Ted at 18:34:5 Monday July 29 2002
Drilling has made more positive comments today than the Trust has made this year.Can the Trust exec please take note.If fans like this are disillusioned with the Trust ,surely there is a serious problem.
Boards at 18:2:3 Monday July 29 2002
Dinkle, you really are a donkle are you not! The baoards were probably being replaced by the new sponsers for this year. For me there seem to be more boards now than ever. Drilling you have got some good ideas but why just talk about it? If you are confident that it is that easy, then why not do it yourself, either for the Trust or for the club direct? Those who can do those who cant be arsed criticize everyone elses efforts, and so it goes on. The club say that Stonhill will be at tommorrows meeting to answer questions as well, I suggest 1) if the GDS deal was 95% done 3 weeks ago and then 90% the week after what it it now? and 2)At the Trust open Forum you said that there had been no other bid in March, but there was, and that GDS was conducting his business proffesionally and in the best interests of the club? do you still think the same today?
dinkle the donkle at 16:28:26 Monday July 29 2002
on that subject i walked past the ground at the weekend and there were hardly any advertising boards around the pitch at all. the club are in dire straits and they havent got any more for nothing! great gag dont you think. anyway what is going on were two weeks away from the start of the season and seems that businesses of the county have pulled the plug on the cobblers.
Anon at 16:6:30 Monday July 29 2002
Good points Drilling but the Trust already have a weekly / monthly draw (the 250 club). the Cobblers revival / Gold Bond isnt promoted that well - I think its a collective of clubs that run it and its organised by Blackpool there are some good prizes on offer but no information of where to buy tickets, what the odds are, or details of local winners etc is published by the club. Some of the prizes are (I think) about £5k and new cars - has anybody ever seen a Cobbs fan winning one of these??
The Drilling Cobbler at 15:9:24 Monday July 29 2002
Regarding the disabled fixture, I did not know that the club actually sponsored the disabled league and its website. My view of this is that if it cannot afford to pay the wages of its own staff, it should not be sponsoring charities with lets face it its creditors money. I for example wouldnt donate money to a charity at the expense of my mortgage. And that isnt being uncharitable, its being realistic. With regards to the programme idea, it was 9 years ago and a page in the programme was no where near what it is now. At the time - and I have no idea wether it is still the case - the club had no control over the advertising, it was all subcontracted out to a third party - probably the printers. Take your point about Mark Pacans cards, and also the fact that the current board do appear to undermine the trust when possible. The club have indeed employed commercial managers which is bound to have a side effect on the trusts abilities to raise funds, however I still think there are hundreds of opportunities to raise extra money as I still do not feel that the club is being procative in that area. Why for example do the club not employ a student telesales person in the evening - or an actual fan - to canvass the entire sixfields database trying to increase the membership of the luck draw thing(I cannot think what it is called)? 10000 plus people - if only 200 agreed that is 5quid extra per month each equalling £1000, times that by 12 and theres 12k for starters! And it would be bloody easy to sell. Or why does the trust not start up a similar scheme to raise extra funds? The Trust would not even need the clubs permission because it would actually be raising money for its own funds, so NTFC would not even have to be mentioned. With 10 people on the exec I simply cannot understand why between them they only managed to raise on average 300quid between them per week over the course of the season. Thats 30quid each!
west stand woeman at 14:50:15 Monday July 29 2002
everybody is entitled to there view on the GDS takeover there is a meeting where cobblers fans can go and ask hodder questions about the club as a hole on tuesday night
NTFC@2view at 14:18:4 Monday July 29 2002
'Not the answer' is easy to give. If the Trust GAVE US the answer they would start being something important. (No I am not on the Board, related or friendly with anyone that is nor have any relationship whatsoever with STC - whatever it might be!) So Fash wasn't, GdS isn't, Tom Barry.......? Do we Trust them? Do we care?
But.... at 13:47:51 Monday July 29 2002
But Drilling, you can hardly criticize the Trust for sponsering an English Disabled fixture (we should be proud of it) whilst not mentioning that the club despite its financial difficulties are sponsoring the whole disabled league and its website. Also my understanding is that since the club got commercial managers in, the chances for the Trust tyo raise funds have become limited. Your programme example for a start would not get off the ground as the club want to charge the trust £1200 a page for the Travel Club!!.Another example when Mark Pacan used to sell xmas cards for the Trust he was told he had to stop and sell them through the club? The club in many peoples minds were also involved in setting up the Sixfields Travel Club which has undermined its fund raising in that field also. I am afraid the current directors would like to undermine the Trust and a small minority of fans are happy to do thier bidding without wanting to get involved themselves to change what they think is wrong. I was grateful for the trust for keeping us informed as to what was going on last season, (the club tell us what they want us to hear) and I think the longer the GDS fiasco goes on the more credibility the Trust gain for informing the supporter base that he was not the answer.
The Drilling Cobbler at 13:11:2 Monday July 29 2002
Steve, the reason I do not involve myself with the trust/activities anymore is simple - they have no power to make things happen. With a shareholding of 17% they are never going to be able to influence anything that the club actually does - and as Ted has pointed out they have actually become an obsticle in the way of future development. Sponsoring an England disabled match is nice, but how does it benefit NTFC? I regularly donate to charities, particularly cancer related ones, but I would not expect someone to do so on my behalf with money that I have 'donated' to another cause. It is probable that many of the England players came from the ranks of the Cobblers disabled team - I have no idea wether this is the case but I do know that they are very successful - but I still would still argue that that money - however small/large a sum it was, could have been used to benefit NTFC moe, particularly in a season when the club couldnt even afford to sustain its wage bill. Or even spending it on our very own disabled facilities would have surely been more appropriate? I do not know the ins and outs of this donation, only what someone posted on hear yesterday so I stand to be corrected. Whilst I was actually on the exec, not one of my suggestions was ever taken up because they generally involved speculation but with a pretty sound foundation to make profit from. One of these was for the Trust to buy pages in the programme and resell them to local businesses. At the time I worked at the Chron and echo and my job was to sell advertising. I produced a number of successful features, where the advertises showed their support to NTFC and 10% of the revenue went to the trust. In less than a month I raised over 700quid which I presented in the form of a cheque on the pitch at half time of a home game. I offered to sell the advertising myself, as I had a huge number of contacts and was more than confident of raising over £5000. If memory serves me correct, the cost of a page was about £200 at the time for the whole season. 4 pages would have only cost £800, and I had around 6 months to achieve that target because it was Feb time and it would have been for the next season. The idea was thrown out unaminously because it was deemed to risky. A car boot sale raising 30quid was smiled upon, yet my own fundraising activity which would have raised substantial sums was not. This was just one reason why I decided to leave the trust, they were very 'small thinking' even back then and were becoming a closed shop. You cannot honestly tell me if I was to rejoin tomorrow that my views would be listened to and acted upon, therefore what is the point? One question though Steve that you could perhaps answer - from your own involvement - presuming of course you are on the exec - what ideas have you proposed and which ones were implemented? Perhaps by answering that question people like myself could see at first hand what 'difference' we could make by joining and taking an active part.
untrustee at 12:20:2 Monday July 29 2002
Fine - next please
Steve at 12:5:0 Monday July 29 2002
I feel that a good deal of the criticisms of the Trust are unfair. However, I do get tired of people banging on about who has a right to an opinion and who doesn't. Firstly, a ggod number of people preface their opinions by saying, for example, "I used to sit on the Trust" or "I'm a season ticket holder", "Therefore I'm entitled to an opinion". Let's get things straight - EVERYBODY is entitled to an opinion. There we are - that wan't too difficult was it? However, there's another thing. Those who complain about the attitude/workings of the Trust - Do you attend and contribute at meetings? If you're unable to, then do you write to the Trust with your view? When a survey or questionnaire goes out, do you respond? When the officers are put up for (re-)election, do you vote? Are you prepared to put yourself up for election? Now - I would say that although you have EVERY right to express your opinion, the more you of these questions you can answer to in the affirmative, then the more I am prepared to listen to your opinion. If you are constantly complaining about the Trust's activities or its structure, yet don't contribute in any way yourself, I would say to you, "Fine - next please".
MBD at 11:47:23 Monday July 29 2002
Exactly.
NTFC@2view at 11:29:24 Monday July 29 2002
MBD. Is it really? I don't think so.
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:6:47 Monday July 29 2002
In the past I have posted my own experiences of the organisation on this site as I used to sit on the exec some 9 years ago myself. Summise to say I pretty much agree with what Ted says about what the trust stands for today. They are politically very left in their way of thinking - my own politics admittedly swing more rightwards but I can assure everyone that I hold both Brian Lomax and Tony Clarke in the highest esteem because they are two affable guys who both have NTFC and the best interests of the club at heart. However, I like many feel that they are stuck in a timewarp and hold the same views of going forward as they did in the days of Michael McRitchie and the subsequent foundation of the trust. Times have changed, it is now all about money, and to dismiss the credentials of a potential saviour because of what he stands for outside of his actual involvement/potential involvement of NTFC is for me very narrow minded and outlines that democracy is only used when it suits them. Recent examples of this are the way the last open forum was 'chaired' and the views/responses from its speakers and obviously the whole saga of The ballot regarding GDS. I will probably get 'slaughtered' by anons who do not share my view, but I at least have experience of being at the forefront of the body, therefore I feel I am qualified to have an opinion. The Trust now only represents a very small fraction of the supporters in both percentage terms and views - I know many diehard supporters who will have nothing today with them now and who used to either be members themselves and/or used to share the same principles. Their achievements recently in terms of fundraising again proves that they lack the ideas and vision to truly unite the support base of NTFC - the chap/lady yesterday who mentioned the flask of wine attributed to Sammo again proves the thought processes of a trustee(copywrite Ted!) - listing that as one of the top 6 moments of the last 12months proves beyond doubt that the organisation can no longer be taken seriously. I do not really have any alternatives to the trust - I actually still think that they could play a huge part in the future success of NTFC. Maybe relaunching themselves in the same way as Labour did some years ago by re-naming it 'new trust' would at least encourage people to listen to them again because at the moment they come across as a small band of politically correct 'old timers' who do not share the same ambitions - or dreams - that the rest of us do concerning NTFC.
MBD at 10:30:13 Monday July 29 2002
Is this organisation which makes no difference the same one which is apparently the barrier to any takeover??? Hmmmm.....
MBD at 10:30:12 Monday July 29 2002
Is this organisation which makes no difference the same one which is apparently the barrier to any takeover??? Hmmmm.....
NTFC@2view at 9:34:48 Monday July 29 2002
This would be interesting if the Trust, or its replacement, made any real difference to anything.
Don't hold your breath Ray at 9:28:56 Monday July 29 2002
Ted is one of life's whingers and will not be prepared to put himself on the line for anything he says. He is entitled to his opinion of the trust but his blind hatred has not been underpinned with one singel constructive comment. I'd be very surprised if he would want to take part in The People's Front of Judea whilst it is for easier for him to slag off The Judean People's Front.
claret man at 9:18:59 Monday July 29 2002
i agree with 9442 thisd should be for talking about football not GDS or what you had for tea or setting up new supporters club(even tho i know this is important)it is for taling about the cobbleras and the way they play, who has done well that sort of thing and i think ABBEY is a donkey i think harperis good and harsley and the new captain will be really goosd in midfield
Ray at 8:42:24 Monday July 29 2002
Come on then Ted, give us a viable alternative to the Trust. If I think its feasible I'll set it up - can't say fairer than that.
NTFC@2view at 7:21:49 Monday July 29 2002
"Doubting Ted at 23:4:1 Sunday July 28 2002" - They seem to have read this GDS thing right anyway - Please explain.
Anon at 5:15:26 Monday July 29 2002
It is little wonder so few local companies are prepared to stump up money for the Cobblers with the likes of Big Deal around.
9224 at 23:41:24 Sunday July 28 2002
Sorry, "reckon Welchy's worth having a small squad FOR to be honest."
9224 at 23:40:12 Sunday July 28 2002
Remember when we used to discuss football? Could anyone who went to Stevenage give us the lowdown on the new signings? I'm excited about Harsley, to score 11 goals from the midfield of the worst team in the country is promising. What about Harper/Abbey? I'm sad to say that I've not heard much good about either of them. Reckon Welchy's worth having a small squad to be honest. This Morison boy needs signing on a longish contract now, it seems we ought to have given him a chance before splashing out on Stamp. (But I don't know as I haven't really seen much of either of them, well, nothing of Stamp and about 20 minutes of Morison)
anon at 23:30:8 Sunday July 28 2002
anon at 23:20, your just watchdog at 21:34 pissedoff that you have been rumbled as a sanctimonious old crow
Politics? at 23:26:31 Sunday July 28 2002
When you scroll through this board most of the politics seem to come from posters who refer to Lefty's, ie lefty lomax ,TCMP and his lefty commies etc. Seems the only infestation is from a few narrow minded right wing nutters with nothing better to do than find people to slag off?
BloodNut at 23:20:57 Sunday July 28 2002
Hey Ted, I bet you slag off coppers too! But when you're in trouble you'll be the first one shouting for help!
Anon at 23:20:32 Sunday July 28 2002
Big deal you are another lefty who hates anybody with a bit of money
Leave him alone at 23:18:28 Sunday July 28 2002
leave the poor boy alone. I am sure people only come on this board late at night to work Ted up into a Trust hating Frenzy, It may be fun but you could push him over the edge.
Trusties? at 23:15:4 Sunday July 28 2002
There are no Trusties around Ted, only the ones in your head, You have really got this bad havn't you. I would not want to be amember of the Trust with people like you around Ted you sound dangerous. We all know where obsessions lead.
Ted at 23:11:53 Sunday July 28 2002
That Typical of you Trusties.Once again your in denial,accusing me of posting in another name just because some people happen to agree with what I say.Wake up! and see what many fans now perceive the Trust to be.
Mighty Pissed Off at 23:11:44 Sunday July 28 2002
Teamtalk and annanova are gonna look pretty stupid when they find out that the egm is not about the GDS takeover at all.
Just You at 23:8:24 Sunday July 28 2002
No Ted...... It it just YOU...... change the record you boring Sixfield Travel Tosser.....At least when the season starts you can go back to your Travel Watch activities
Ted at 23:6:23 Sunday July 28 2002
Bazza.You`re right the arguments do keep going round,and there will always be fans that agree to disagree.Those representing the Trust however must surely now take note of what many fans are saying.It`s not just me,but many fans feel that the Trust has had very little influence in bringing about stability within the club,quite the contrary infact with the tumultuous happenings in recent years.
Doubting Ted at 23:4:1 Sunday July 28 2002
Ted you couldn't just be Thomas and warchdog could you? after all you usually spend half your time talking to yourself, and no one else bother with slagging the Trust off. In fact many of us think they do a pretty good job. They seem to have read this GDS thing right anyway/ I also remember they told us the Truth over Fash? One thing is for sure Ted as the Trust rep would get Stonhill and the gang running for the door quicker than you can say "Diamonds are shit"
Big Deal at 22:59:27 Sunday July 28 2002
Watchdog you cheapskate, your £1800 over 5 years (£360 a year) buys you a season ticket a programme to each game and the chance to look important in the players lounge drinking coffee at half time, and as for your £1000 sponsership, your company picks up the bill!! People like you who slag people off for making political statements whilst making a political statement themselves really shit me off. take your holier than though attitude and stick it, and your debenture where the sun don't shine. Why slag MK off for slagging GDS off and then go and slag Tom Barry off yourself? your warped man. Weststand Woeman if GDS is one of us then the whole fu*%ing world is screwed lady. We should sign Roy Hunter up to the Trust and make him the new Trust rep.
Ted at 22:52:24 Sunday July 28 2002
I have been saying for a long time on this site that the Trust are now a major stumbling block for the progression of NTFC.Doubting Thomas has hit the nail on the head with what he says.The hassle that you get from the Trust would deter many would be investors.Then there is poor old Watchdog, a real supporter who has put his money where his mouth is but will not entertain the Trust,who really have to seriously look at what they now stand for.
Doubting Thomas at 22:35:9 Sunday July 28 2002
If I had millions of pounds I wouldn't put my money in the cobblers. Look at all the hassle you would have to put up with, The supporters trust and no doubt many others would want to tell you what to do, and it wouldn't take long before every one was at loggerheads. It would cost millions to run the club and build a team, but I can't see it happening, but if it does you have to ask the question, Is this bloke GDS bloke a clever rich man who has another agenda or a nutcase looking for publicity?
Bazza at 22:31:59 Sunday July 28 2002
Ilike thid? Sorry should be this.
west stand woeman at 22:28:8 Sunday July 28 2002
i think that GDS is a good takeover and i think that people should give him a chance cos he is one of us and he really wants to make a go of th club and team i also think if he puts money in then we will not go down we might go the other way and go up
Bazza at 22:25:29 Sunday July 28 2002
I like thid dialogue box, much better, thanks.
TED, I hav'nt looked on here since my last post on Friday but the arguments just go around and around. If you don't like the trust either join it and change it or offer an alternative. What else is there?
Watchdog at 21:34:39 Sunday July 28 2002
MK Cobbler, without revealing my identity I have a 5 year debenture paid in full at 1800 quid and sponsor to the tune of a grand a year. If I believe some people, that is a bigger cash contribution than some of the directors have put in. Now what have you done MK? My gripe with the trust is that it tries to take a holier than thou, we're more claret than the rest stance and persists in a sycophantic promotion of TCMP. I will not join any supporters organisation that gives the impresion of being the spin doctoring department of any political party, left or right. I have nought to do with Sixfields or any of the other supporters' clubs either. One question I have not seen answered on here is who is Tom Barry and where is the colour of his money. The lack of anyone providing information on this board about him suggests he is no more credible than Fashanu or Stefano.
Anon at 21:28:55 Sunday July 28 2002
Ananova:
Northampton take-over set for August 19
Northampton have called an Extraordinary General Meeting so Giovanni Di Stefano can complete his purchase of the club.
The meeting will take place at Sixfields on August 19, and is open to shareholders only.
Cobblers chief executive Gary Hodder said: "The contracts for the deal have been agreed by both sides and have been lodged with the solicitors. The EGM is a formality but it is a formality that must be undertaken."
Still Won't Happen at 21:23:33 Sunday July 28 2002
I still can't see the GDS deal going through, the egm is a farce (nothing to do with GDS, he won't even be mentioned) and the club despite teamtalks usual misinformation have said his money is still not operative (in other words he won't put his own money in but want's to borrow to buy the club and no one will lend him the money. But if it did, TCMP will resign he has already said so. So who will be the Trusts/Supporters rep on the board. Any idea who the contenders are and who do people think should do it?
Deepcut Cobbler at 19:45:17 Sunday July 28 2002
Big Box!!!! The place on the board was for the Trust not any old supporters club. As I said the only way to influence the club from within is to be a part of the Trust. The Trust rep only acts to the democratic majority of the Trust membership. TCMPs decision to announce his resignation was a purely personal decision and not on behalf of the Trust. An MP linked to an individual of GDS's notoriety?? Think about it! The deal, on or off, I will still be supporting the Cobblers however I will not be entirely happy with who is providing the dosh. The Trust is the Trust members voice on the board. If you are not in it you do not have a voice. Contributing to Cobblers Comments really influences the club. NOT! COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Anon and NTFC2 both crocks of shit - YES at 18:59:9 Sunday July 28 2002
Your postings are all old news!!! snore.......
NTFC@2view at 13:18:53 Sunday July 28 2002
Was it here? "Anon at 15:35:5 Saturday July 27 2002"
NTFC@2view at 13:18:23 Sunday July 28 2002
Exciting news Anon. Where did you find that out?
Anon at 12:48:46 Sunday July 28 2002
Northampton have confirmed that all the funding is in place to allow businessman Giovanni Di Stefano to complete his takeover next month. The move had looked to be completed as long ago as July 1 but the issues of funding and the need for an Extraordinary General Meeting had seen the deadline pushed further and further back. But the club have now revealed that they informed Di Stefano's acting solicitors on Wednesday that all of the financial criteria needed to approve his bid have now been met. And with the final confirmation that an EGM is required before the move can be completed the club have arranged the shareholders' meeting for August 19. Northampton's chief executive Gary Hodder admitted that the meeting is little more than a formality and it is expected that the takeover could be finalised less than two weeks into the new season.
NTFC@2view at 12:28:21 Sunday July 28 2002
Nice to see so many of you up this early on a school holiday Sunday.
the george melly scotsman at 12:27:57 Sunday July 28 2002
we were relegated cos of TWATKINS tactics ie 10-0-0.Turley was just a bonus,how many times did it go underneath him,lets hope that the village people use him to full effect soon and pop back to where they belong.
9224 at 12:16:39 Sunday July 28 2002
I've been saying since it was done that we let the wrong right-winger go. Before people go on and on about Hodgie being unfit, a spell of games would have improved that massively, and he tended to do more in five good minutes than certain other players in that position did in 90 piss-poor ones, yet still managed to retain his place. Not surprised Clarkson got good reviews yesterday. I think of all the factors causing relegation in 98/99, Clarkson's absence was up there with Warburton's sale and Atkins's bizarre persistance with Spilly Turley in terms of significance.
Gareth at 11:44:5 Sunday July 28 2002
ooops, sorry did not mean to post under my real name, please ignore this posting
Steverob at 11:43:2 Sunday July 28 2002
Thanks for updating us Gareth mate we really appreciate it roll on July 1st That will shut all those anti GDS whingers up
Benemi at 11:40:57 Sunday July 28 2002
Yeh Butt out mr ntfc@2view your opinions are not wanted. love you Gareth and GDS
cobbleshire at 11:36:23 Sunday July 28 2002
count me in to those comments, when GDS takes over I hope he sues all these whingers and makes Gareth the new chairman. GDS IS GOD
Cobblelove at 11:34:40 Sunday July 28 2002
I too agree, stop asking akward questions ntfc@2view. Happy Birthday GDS we love you.
JRA at 11:33:26 Sunday July 28 2002
I agree with the last post. Thanks Gareth for keeping us updated
Gareth at 11:32:29 Sunday July 28 2002
ntfc@2view, I may or may not be up, and could or could not be amiable but it would not be proper for the club to comment at this point in time on the status of my level of being awake. When it is appropriate to do so you will be the first to know through our new SMS text service. HOW MUCH CLOSER DO YOU WANT TO BE.
NTFC@2view at 9:15:6 Sunday July 28 2002
Whereas you come over as a totally pleasant and rational character Mr Parker. (Shows it's a Sunday norning as I'd have usually said 'embittered twát'!) And before you say it, think! Would the evil Mr Wilsher be up this early after power crazying all day? I think not!
Nosey Parker at 8:4:42 Sunday July 28 2002
Ted you have lost the plot now...." regarding Gareth I have always found him very amiable"!!! The man is a power crazy baffoon who spends all day asking himself questions on the message board then replying to them!! Does that sound like someone who is "the full ticket" I dont think so!!! Why the club employs a friut bat like him baffles me, even the players think he is strange?
pnazionale at 1:41:59 Sunday July 28 2002
Please do not abuse my good friend Ted, like Mr Riches he is of good opinion and those who use defamotory language against him should understand that they too could suffer the consequences of the English law. Everybody should be free to have of their say in NTFC. It si the club for the fans, and when it is mine, it shall be my intention to give the fans their club, remember it is your club, The Trust is not an enemy but a friend of NTFC and when the formalities are dealt with it shall recieve my funding and one more person for the board with the Rev Page and my son Michel and Freddy.remember look not to one day or seven but to the future and promotion. International players will be made available to the manager (with his descretion)and the club will be £10 million on the stock markets regards GDS Tenerife Sunny 72%
TED at 23:24:33 Saturday July 27 2002
Well, I`ve seen it all now.GDS protecting our old friend Steve Riches on the official message board.
NTFC@2view at 22:22:49 Saturday July 27 2002
So - at least for the first game - the Trust plays centre-back. Headline: "Trust saves Northampton Town."
NSB at 21:45:22 Saturday July 27 2002
thanky you for the box ray, now i can see my nonsensical (and often misspelled) ramblings!
Ted at 21:22:59 Saturday July 27 2002
BFN I have infact only met Gareth a few times ,and I have always found him very amiable.I also think he does a difficult job very well.For example I think his commentary skills are much better than that Adam chappy on Radio Northampton.By the way isn`t Gareth an ex Trusty?
Anon at 20:37:51 Saturday July 27 2002
Ted you dont do yourself any favours with the constant sniping of the Trust en masse, its not a bunch of Tony Clarkes groupies, rather a collection of supporters with differing views who all want to do the best they can to help the club by raising money and helping to protect the interests of supporters. That may be an idealistic view I suppose but at least acknowledge that if the majority of Trust memebrs vote to give backing to the GDS takeover then that is the way the democratically elected board rep will vote at the EGM. The more members the trust has the more shares it can buy, and the more money it can put into the club. Therefore the more notice the other directors will have to take of its views, its never going to be in a position to run the club but it will be able to alert us if things start to go badly wrong.
ted not that one(ghost) at 20:10:33 Saturday July 27 2002
Ted is................... wait for it,me Ted rogers,cos as i rememder it i uesd to talk a load of shite into a glass window,ps the old joke take it away ted booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. ooops
BFN at 20:4:4 Saturday July 27 2002
Aha! You give the game away! You must be Gareth Wilsher's dad! :-)
tgms at 20:2:23 Saturday July 27 2002
ian clarkson
BFN at 20:2:12 Saturday July 27 2002
Ian Clarkson's still a class act. Terry Angus needs stress counciling.
Ted at 20:2:7 Saturday July 27 2002
Back From Nuneaton. This might surprise you,but I have done alot for the club in the last 30 years or so,and even now a member of my family is on the staff at the club.Therefore I live and breathe NTFC for much of the time.
BFN at 19:59:53 Saturday July 27 2002
I've been trying hard to remember who played at right back. Perhaps that says enough.
austin texas at 19:55:7 Saturday July 27 2002
won't about Blomberg was he any good?.Well McGregor's not good enough is he really,
only just back from Nuneaton at 19:42:38 Saturday July 27 2002
I know Nuneaton's not three hours away, I stopped for a pie and pint on the way home. For what it's worth, there was some nice movement up front and down the wings, especially from Carruthers in the first half and Lincoln in the second. The centre of midfield looks strong and sharp but I'm worried about the back. Sammo and Burgess were turned over several times and the hole at right back needs filling fast. Spedding was OK on the left and linked nicely with Carruthers but oh dear McGregor!
Back from Nuneaton at 19:36:42 Saturday July 27 2002
I see there's little interest in the match that was played this afternoon. Too busy enthralling yourselves with frankly boring observations about TDS GDS and trust bashing from Tedious TED who hasn't told us what HE's done for the club in the last 10 years, over and above the usual ticket and shirt money. You'll never be right in what you say Ted. Terry Angus has been there quite a few years now foofoo.
Ted at 19:27:24 Saturday July 27 2002
Very funny anon.But have you ever stopped to think that I may just be right in what I say,and that I find you Trusties blind loyalty tedious.
Anon at 19:16:15 Saturday July 27 2002
TEDious is back!
Ted at 18:59:21 Saturday July 27 2002
Anon at 1745 .Wheres the sum paid for the pointless ballot?
Ted at 18:57:18 Saturday July 27 2002
Well I am knocking the Trust.What they have raised is pitiful,compared
to what they could raise if they appealed to more fans.Presented Ian Sampson with a flask.I ask you!
NTFC@2view at 18:49:18 Saturday July 27 2002
No-one - almost no-one - is knocking the Trust or what they have done, but they are peripheral to the survival and progress of our club. You could say March 29th, wages to be paid £110000 - all the supporters, sponsors, League, loans, PFA etc etc. That would serve little purpose either.
MK Cobbler at 18:43:23 Saturday July 27 2002
One of the main purposes of the Trust is to raise money for the club and a fair amount has been handed over. All you bright sparks that are so quick to criticise NTST where are your fund raisinf ideas and where is your money?
Anon at 17:45:18 Saturday July 27 2002
August - £5000 donated to Northampton Town Football Club from the Trust.
January - £4000 handed over to NTFC
February 22nd - £1000 to NTFC for Dennis Casey to spend on Exercise equipment.
March 29th - Presentation before the Bury game to Ian Sampson of a wine flask from the Trust to commemorate his testimonial year.
March 29th - Half time at Bury game on pitch large cheque presentation for the £9000 donated to NTFC from the trust and £1000 donated for exercise equipment.
April 21st - Trust sponsor the trophy for the England V Wales disabled football match at Sixfields for the disabled fun day an event which will become annual.
Ray at 17:40:37 Saturday July 27 2002
In fact, despite not being on the executive, I will point out that all Trust member had the opportunity to vote on the GDS issue by mail. Polling forms were sent out and the executive would have been bound by the majority decision. I think thats democratic enough for me.
RUBBER DUCK at 17:30:5 Saturday July 27 2002
correct watchdog, the trust exec make all the decisions and bugger the majority,why do you think we have not seen a poll on GDS? Because the majority disagreed with the trust exec thats why
Watchdog at 17:5:10 Saturday July 27 2002
Insane, yes you are. You state that 'I also think from the reading CC1 that the most information we have recieved and the most intelligent comments have come from TCMP on behalf of the Trust'. Well, what a surprise, he is after all the rep on the board and has the benefit of being privilege to information, something that is denied the rest of the supporters. I am not in any trust or travel club but I would observe that it seems somewhat undemocratic that the Trust rep has to have been on the Trust executive. If there is an individual willing and able to represent the supporter base and carry that through in an open vote, what does it matter that they have not been on the executive? What would happen if Ted or anyone else for that matter formed a rival trust and managed to sign up more members than the current Trust? Should that rival trust not be entitled to similar representation? Would they have to acquire that right through share purchases?
NTFC@2view at 16:50:42 Saturday July 27 2002
And Ian Clarkson and Lee Howey - their man of the match!
NTFC@2view at 16:49:42 Saturday July 27 2002
Blomberg - trialist. Finnish Under 21 International. Why should I not be able to post irrelevant information? At least I am aware that it is and point it out to those who don't know. Here's another bit. 250000 Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia in 1995. I'm sad? On a Cobblers board I try to stick to Cobblers Comments.
the george melly scotsman at 16:48:10 Saturday July 27 2002
been a while, good to see all the crazy's r still here.MK cobbler ignore such ramblings,the english destroyed the scots hundreds of years ago, but i still support an english team.
Anon at 16:44:36 Saturday July 27 2002
i'm talking to myself ah ah ah hahahahahah dterdter hahahahah
MK Cobbler at 16:43:55 Saturday July 27 2002
NTFC@2VIEW - what on earth is your intention making a posting about Croatian atrocities in WW2 and then saying it is irrelevant? What a sad person you are.
Anon at 16:40:56 Saturday July 27 2002
So the club has finally confirmed the funding is in place.Thats that then is it?
foofoo the bear at 16:29:51 Saturday July 27 2002
1-1 76mins steve morrison header. who's Blomberg?(defender)
Anon at 16:27:52 Saturday July 27 2002
listen to what the club are saying (or not saying) rather than relying on teamtalk. that quote has not been on the official site.
foofoo the bear at 16:23:58 Saturday July 27 2002
losing 1-0 4mins,been wondering where Terry Angus had ended up.
Anon at 15:35:5 Saturday July 27 2002
Northampton have confirmed that all the funding is in place to allow businessman Giovanni Di Stefano to complete his takeover next month.
The move had looked to be completed as long ago as July 1 but the issues of funding and the need for an Extraordinary General Meeting had seen the deadline pushed further and further back.
But the club have now revealed that they informed Di Stefano's acting solicitors on Wednesday that all of the financial criteria needed to approve his bid have now been met.
And with the final confirmation that an EGM is required before the move can be completed the club have arranged the shareholders' meeting for August 19.
Northampton's chief executive Gary Hodder admitted that the meeting is little more than a formality and it is expected that the takeover could be finalised less than two weeks into the new season.
Anon at 15:19:51 Saturday July 27 2002
To contact Hodder and Stonhill directly.30th July @ Sixfields
richie fan from nz at 14:53:55 Saturday July 27 2002
chit roll on 13 days time so we can get of this crap and talk footie
richie fan from nz at 14:47:32 Saturday July 27 2002
is ted impersonating anon now or is it his dad
NTFC@2view at 14:46:27 Saturday July 27 2002
Did you know that, in the Croatian Concentration Camp in WW11, there was a competition one night to see which guard could kill the most Serbs? With a specially sharpened carving knife, the winner managed to kill 1,325 men that night. It is irrelevant to us, however, but interesting none the less don't you think?
richie fan from nz at 14:44:41 Saturday July 27 2002
corpse for sale how gross
Nosey Parker at 14:43:45 Saturday July 27 2002
Someones impersonating me
Anon at 14:40:19 Saturday July 27 2002
Ted is the cult hero of many Northampton Town Fans , because he dares to stand up against that ruthless secret organisation known as the Trust.
Brilliant at 14:36:29 Saturday July 27 2002
brilliant anon2 (re www.distefano.com) I wondered what they did with all those bodies from Kosova
richie fan from nz at 14:34:30 Saturday July 27 2002
who the hell is this ted.??
anon2 at 14:33:40 Saturday July 27 2002
To contact GDS direct go to www.distefano.com if you dare!!
Anon at 14:32:40 Saturday July 27 2002
To contact GDS directly pnazionale@tiscalinet.it (if you dare!)
Arkan Time at 14:30:6 Saturday July 27 2002
Perhaps it will be Arkan Time again after all it's difficult to forget mass ethnic cleansing,the murders and rapes of innocent woman and the sick torture of men on the basis of their ethnicity. Nice company and friends our man keeps, But I am sure their are many like you ntfc@2view who are prepared to shut their eyes and expect and hope the rest of the football world won't notice. We would have been the lepers of the football league. Thank goodness it looks as if he has lost interest. I would rather McRitchie came back!!
NTFC@2view at 14:23:27 Saturday July 27 2002
If you are the same person, use the same name please. It is, I repeat, irrelevant. IF the company is sold to him, the directors will be who he chooses, whether you have posted what you have or not. I didn't forget Rev Page, but he wasn't gaoled as far as we know, neither was the secretary. If he doesn't buy the company, so what? The talk about popping back into administration is mentioned quite glibly - administration is a far greater worry to me than other possible future misfortunes. And as far as calm down is concerned, I am tired of people going over and over the same thing tima and again. It'll be Arkan time again soon. And that will help us off and on the field, won't it?
poll at 14:5:51 Saturday July 27 2002
Ray, what happened to the poll? I know that pro and anti poster probably tried to fix it but it would be helpful if you posted the result and told us if you think it was a fair representation
What about? at 13:58:40 Saturday July 27 2002
Your right ntfc@2view Kingston is not as far as we know going on the board, but The Rev Page who you neatly forget to mention is and GDS was the secretary of the company!! Ican't believe that you are so blind or so stupid to just dismiiss news like this which is FACT as you are so keen to ask for. Can you not admit even a teeny weeny bit that coupled with how he has acted since surfacing ie saying one thing and doing another or promising the earth and international players when they are not his to offer etc that this hardly bodes well for the future of the club if he was to take over? any way it won't make any difference because if you read what has been posted below from variuos sources it seemsas if it wont happen anyway. also ntfc@2view, calm down a bit your getting too excited again
Anon at 13:58:7 Saturday July 27 2002
hes having talks with diremonds
oldbrook cobbler at 13:31:15 Saturday July 27 2002
anyone know where welchy's gone? also broadhurst has said he's going back to the board to try and get more money for hargreaves. why would he not do that for welchy? he was the best keeper in the league last year from what i saw.
NTFC@2view at 13:6:4 Saturday July 27 2002
"whole fan base at 12:13:33 Saturday July 27 2002" Leave me out of this. I wouldn't join the Trust, STC or any other silly organisation. I just hope to be able to watch my club with a decent chance of doing something positive on the pitch and not go in and out of administration, have transfer embargoes, have relegations, play Hartlepool etc. If this takeover doesn't happen, bring on the MEM. I don't care who, but if you think the Trust or any supporter organisation can save the club, find another thought. And I see the Companies House man has resurfaced with the 1995 'news' again. There are 11 companies currently with Mr Kingston on their board, but NTFC was not to be one of them. So píss off again - it serves no positive purpose, whether the takeover happens or not. Your knowledge of a minor piece of capitalism's shít will NOT get us a new central defender or goal scorer. Sort out Time Warner etc. RAY - thanks for a window!
Its OFF at 12:36:34 Saturday July 27 2002
Thank you those who confirmed my post, my source also told me that Stonhill back from his hols is livid, after pinning his whole reputation on this bloke being the real thing and publicaly saying he had acted very proffesionally and that he had the best interests of the club at heart, he now finds himself in an impossible position of having to say I was wrong, very wrong. My source says that he is close to walking away.
The Last Time at 12:27:57 Saturday July 27 2002
9224 The last U.K firm that GDS had control of Sandhurst Assets PLC got into debt owing hundreds of thousands (around £800,000 i think) and was simply dissolved, without paying any of its creditors. So this hardly gives me comfort regarding guarentees. Oh by the way quess who was on the board of Sandhurst Asset? The one and only The Good Rev Dr Richard Page, oh and another guy caled Malcolm Kingston who was locked up in the states for money laundering and fraud, but hey what the hell, I am sure any good U.K bank will just put that down to bad luck wont they? after all they don't carry out searches on potential clients and their business past do they?. I think the banks are less keen on overseas investors as its harder to get any money back when things go wrong. Hope this covers the point you raise, and also opens a few peoples eyes. By the way I got my info from the Companies House website, not from some gossip or unreliable source.
Nosey Parker at 12:27:38 Saturday July 27 2002
Yet again I have spoke to someone in the club who also says that the GDS deal will not go through because he wants to borrow 3 million from a bank to "buy" the club..........what bank in there right mind will lend him anything with his track record? Also if he is so rich why wont he put any of his own money in.......I tell you why cos he is a timewaster who is another twat that wants to make the club look shit like the other timewastin chief rubberdingy old John Fashanus so called "mate"
whole fan base at 12:13:33 Saturday July 27 2002
Ted with people like you around how could any supporter group appeal to the whole fan base. You should start a supporters group of your own. Go on I dare you. ntfc@2view I am sure would join. You could be chair he could be secretary and you could both turn up to your own open forums and talk to each other every night, just like you do on this site. I think your position is similar to the great gds god that you look up to ie PUT UP OR SHUT UP you muppet.
9224 at 12:1:29 Saturday July 27 2002
Thought I just had! LOL
Ray at 11:58:4 Saturday July 27 2002
OK - the big box is back - please do NOT abuse
9224 at 11:57:27 Saturday July 27 2002
My (limited) understanding of Company Law is that generally a company is a separate legal entity and the owner of a limited liability company is not legally liable for the debts of the company. However, in cases where an owner has fraudulently run up huge debts with no intention of paying them off, can the courts not decide to 'lift the corporate veil' and make the owner liable? Also, does the fact that his money would be guaranteeing any overdraft not mean that if NTFC ltd cannot pay it off, GdS is bound to. As no-one would buy a company crippled with debt (i.e., about to be wound up) - if it all goes tits up and he can't sell it, he'd have to pay off any debt himself. If it is a success, NTFC ltd can repay the overdraft itself and GdS can sell the club for substantial profit (fair play, he'd have saved us). Can anyone out there confirm this, or let me know if I'm wrong?
NTFC@2view at 11:57:10 Saturday July 27 2002
But does he answer? I think not.
Anon at 11:15:8 Saturday July 27 2002
To talk to Tom Barry direct e-mail Tom Barry on info@media-ent-man.com
and another at 11:8:52 Saturday July 27 2002
Heard the same
and another at 11:8:10 Saturday July 27 2002
Ditto
another one who has heard its off at 11:4:27 Saturday July 27 2002
I've been told , again by someone at the club that the Di Steffano deal wont go through because he wants to borrow money and not actually put any of his own into the club. Calling the EGM is just so that the directors avoid being blamed by the fans for not doing what Di Stefano asked for, the agenda for the EGM just seeks to renew the arrangements for transfering shares that were already in place. I was also told that after the season starts we will be applying to go back into administration.
Ted at 11:2:30 Saturday July 27 2002
Insane...Another Trusy with a different name ,or it could be the same Trusty with a different name.That Linnel chap that you mentioned has only ever been at one of the Forums that I have attended,and even then he came across as an aging trade unionist with a hidden agenda.
Anon at 10:55:4 Saturday July 27 2002
Its OFF .Nice try,but theres nothing new there. Go back to your "source"and get something original.
Ted at 10:49:24 Saturday July 27 2002
So where has the Trust influenced the board in these recent times of crisis?The truth is that they haven`t . There was an instant no to Gds ,but no worthwhile alternative.In its present form the Trust has very little credibility because it does not appeal to the whole fan base of NTFC.The trouble with you Trusties is that you are in denial. I have been accused many times on this board of only seeing what I want to see,but the truth is that it is you who are blinkered ,and you that need to change attitudes.With regard to my contribution, I believe that I am contributing greatly to my cause by coming on this board and challenging you to respond.
Its OFF at 10:40:38 Saturday July 27 2002
I heard last night from a pretty reliable source (connected to the club's media office) that the GDS deal is definately off. The EGM and GDS's comments are just about trying to make each other take the blame. The reason it has failed is that GDS did not want to put his own money in but wanted to borrow from a bank to secure the deal and no bank would touch him. He put money on account to act as a guarentee but the banks just said if you have the money why do you want a loan? The club are now just leaking out tit bits about his money still not being operative to make sure they are not blamed when they get round to saying it won't happen. This is not a wind up, my contact has never let me down before. He also told me about Trollope 3 days before it happened.
Exposed at 10:28:59 Saturday July 27 2002
Good old Ted at least he's consistent it's probably Phil Baron the Sports Snapping shirt lifter
Insane at 10:25:7 Saturday July 27 2002
from 8.45pm last night there were 16 posts, and 10 of the 16 were Ted at one point he posted 4 times in a row arguing and talking to himself. Someone a couple of days ago said that Dave Linnel must be paying him as the more he knocks the Trust the more others stand up and defend them. Trouble is I think he is too thick to see it. Mind you, have to sy the Trust seem so far to have judged this whole saga about right. I also think from the reading CC1 that the most information we have recieved and the most intelligent comments have come from TCMP on behalf of the Trust. Even Ted joined in a sensible debate then, which is kind of funny, as he hates the Trust but can't keep away from it? strange world we live in
Deepcut Cobbler at 10:18:51 Saturday July 27 2002
If you want to have the opportunity to contribute and influence the running of the club, without putting in millions of pounds to do so, join the Trust!! Additional Supporters bodies however well intentioned will only divide the corporate supporter clout and will not have influence on the Board. The Trust does! For your information, I am in agreement with the current line however for other issues that may not be the case. Hope this makes sense because the letterbox od of writing doesn't lend itself to good proof reading. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Not Again at 10:17:25 Saturday July 27 2002
Oh god every time you come back to this board you find Ted the broken record shoutin to all that will listen that he hates the trust, he doesn't know why he hates them (apart from the fact that they are run by old farts) and that they are run by lefty lomax and tcmp and there must be an alternative etc etc etc but comes up with nothing constructive and will not commit himself to do anything about it. Typical of the youth of today wanting everything served up to them on a plate,not prepared to put the work in but happy to live of everyone elses hard graft. He even admits that he goes to Trust open forums!! why? he hates them so much and yet he travels to Sixfields to listen to them? He hates them so much and says there finished, and yet he can't get a post out without condeming them and showing the world how much he is spooked by them. and after arguing about democracy and old farts he goes on to praise Sixfields Travel Club? Thats the answer is it Ted?
Deepcut Cobbler at 10:13:8 Saturday July 27 2002
The Trust is THE recognised supporters body with representation on the board with an ability to influence, albeit limited, decisions affecting the club. Decisions or views expressed by TCMP are on behalf of the Trust and not his own. He is our mouthpiece. Trust meetings are where members have the opportunity to influence the 'mouthpiece'. If you are either not a member or if you are and do not attend the meetings you do not have the opportunity to influence the 'mouthpiece'. I am a member who is unable to attend meetings but I do put my two pence worth in as is my right as a member. If the majority disagree with my opinion I have to go with the majority, the same as in any organisation. Until there is membership of a differing view sufficient to change the Trusts current line, the line must remain because it is the line of the majority. TCMP is not spouting from his own agenda but that of the Trust for which he was elected.
Ted at 23:20:48 Friday July 26 2002
Anyway it looks like once again I am not going to get a good argument .So I will bid you all goodnight.
Ted at 23:18:18 Friday July 26 2002
Most Trusties will not even aknowledge that the Trust is failing in its fundamental duties.I speak to many die-hard Cobblers fans, that love the club and have been following tham for many years.Yet not one of them will have anything to do with the Trust. Why is that, if it not the Trust failing in its attempts to attract them?
Ted at 23:12:38 Friday July 26 2002
You`re distorting my words and meaninings Ray.You must have been having lessons in politics from TCMP!...There goes another reason why people want nothing to do with the Trust.!
Ted at 23:6:52 Friday July 26 2002
You`re right ray this is what this forum is for -debate.I`ve had very little debate regarding my views,just abuse from those Trusties who begrudge the fact that people have a right to challenge them.As NTFC@2View bemoans,not one of them responds with a worthwhile opposing opinion.
Ray at 23:3:7 Friday July 26 2002
Now you are arguing against yourself Ted. Nothing will change unless people are prepared to actually DO something - instead of sitting at the back moaniong and groaning. I do not believe the Trust has failed in is objectives - where have they done so? Unfortunately like many other Ted, you will never win a reasoned discussion because you are unable to put forward a constructive argument putting your poitn of view. "People won't stand to run the Trust because of the boring people running the Trust"?? Come on for goodness sake. You couldnt argue yourself out of a wet paperbag using that line opf reasoning.
Ted at 22:58:1 Friday July 26 2002
There is no "apparently"about it Ray! The Trust is run by boring old farts,if not in body, in mind.Lefty Lomax for instance,A nice guy,who believes in his principles.Nevertheless ,hardly a man to inspire you is he?
Ted at 22:49:38 Friday July 26 2002
The Trust has failed in its objectives,surely everyone can see that !Even the most die hard Trust members must see serious shortcomings in the Trusts ability to unite the support of NTFC.That is the fundamental aim of any organisation to unite support of present and prospective members.s
Ted at 22:42:7 Friday July 26 2002
Neither I or anyone else will put themseves forward Ray,with the Trust in its present form and with its present reputation as a closed shop.This is the very point that I am getting at ,it needs a radical reform from top to bottom to at least regain some sort of credibility.Mark my words ,the Trust in its present form is all but finished!
Ray at 21:59:59 Friday July 26 2002
OK - the Trust is (apparently) run by a load of old farts. As I see it the problem isn't this. If people want to become involved then the opportunity is there. Its no good moaning about the people that run the Trust if you aren;t prepared to stand up and present a balanced logical argument. I'm sure the Trust would be highly delighted to get young blood - but no-one is coming forward to serve. Have you put yourself forward Ted? (Are you young enough?)
west stand woemen at 21:56:29 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE JONNY TO WIN BB
Ray at 21:55:26 Friday July 26 2002
Ted, thus is what this forum is for - debate.
thought u were a bit mad at 21:3:26 Friday July 26 2002
calm down now tooooooo many good idea's all at one go,r u really TED, ted
Ted at 21:1:14 Friday July 26 2002
Ray,I would also like to add that you could do more.This is a great site where anyone can make a contribution.Surely there are some great ideas regarding this issue lying dormant in oeoples heads,Rather than spending time making useless pointless polls(as indeed the Trust also do)could you not encourage fans to post their ideas about issues that will really make a difference.
thought u were a bit mad at 20:56:17 Friday July 26 2002
Ted as above but i find myself starting to agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ted at 20:47:31 Friday July 26 2002
My solution is this.The Trust has to re-launch under a different name,with new forward thinking individuals who have no other motive than to unite the fans of NTFC.
Ted at 20:43:27 Friday July 26 2002
To continue what I said last night(and its nice know no that even Ray now thinks that I have a point to make)you only have to go to one of the open forums to notice that most of those in the first few rows are you might say, rather advanced in years.What attraction can there possibly be for the younger fans to become interested in getting involved in a supporters organisation when it is being run by a load of old farts who constantly go on about the past.I have been to many open forums and not once have I ever left inspired, not once have I ever left feeling anything worthwhile had been achieved and not once have I ever felt that the Trust could unify the support of NTFC.We all know the reasons for this,and most of the problems have come from individuals who see themselves as martrys, or like to push their own political persuasion on others.
Anon at 20:17:58 Friday July 26 2002
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here look here at 19:58:1 Friday July 26 2002
nsb i agree but disagree with it again
nsb at 19:45:22 Friday July 26 2002
i disagree look here
nsb at 19:44:43 Friday July 26 2002
one day i'll buy this bloody club then you'll all be sorry ha ha ha (maniacal laugh) or defect........
look here at 19:38:17 Friday July 26 2002
i agree and disagree with u all
nsb at 19:32:50 Friday July 26 2002
why in the name of greek buggery should GDS stump up cash before he is legally the owner of the club? cos the board want to take as much cash then stop the deal going through? if an egm is a legal requirement for a takeover why didnt they get it out the way if they wanted the bloody money in a hurry, none of this makes any bloody sense! each side is trying to f**k the other over but the fans lose out in the meantime (in the way of all the grey hairs were getting because of it i mean!)
LDB at 19:3:11 Friday July 26 2002
It says it on teamtalk.com
Bazza at 18:38:3 Friday July 26 2002
TED, To continue from last night. OK the Trust is a heap of sh*te but what alternative is there? If so many fans are so disillusioned with the Trust, 'The Fans Voice' then why isn't there an alternative? A supporters club for instance. I seem to have a dim recollection of such an organisation and even being a memeber when I were a lad.( not that long ago) What about a poll to see if anyone is interested in starting an new supporters group?
From Yahoo at 17:4:54 Friday July 26 2002
Northampton have confirmed that all the funding is in place to allow businessman Giovanni Di Stefano to complete his takeover next month.
Anon at 15:41:43 Friday July 26 2002
wheres it say that ldb?
Richard at 15:36:18 Friday July 26 2002
WHERE HAVE THE FUNDS BEEN CONFIRMED???
LDB at 14:44:12 Friday July 26 2002
So funds have now been confirmed - and all will be done next month!!! - Well that should stop the protests until then.......If we survive that long
Nosey Parker at 13:56:44 Friday July 26 2002
If this is the worst site then piss of Theodore the Bore?
Anon at 13:33:25 Friday July 26 2002
Were those Ted's total thoughts?
Anon at 13:23:47 Friday July 26 2002
Anon at 13:22:49 Friday July 26 2002
Anon at 11:59:58 Friday July 26 2002
Even if anyone has an alternative suggestion (short of, "I've just won 20million on the lottery and want to buy NTFC now") its all a bit pointless as the final decision rests with the majority of the board. The name Tom Barry has been mentioned and maybe his bid may have worked out, the club ignored it when it was made in March and I don't suppose he will be inclined to rush in now. Its a pity the club ignored his bid as by now it may have been sorted out although as mentioned by others it did not offer too much for outgoing directors. Also the club have given too much time to the WWW and GDS bids and must be loathed to start all over again with someone else. As I see it its either GDS or going into administration and with wages due to be paid in a few days and little or no monety to pay them the EGM and possible resultant takeover by GDS may come too late. Apart from all that GDS has yet to show NTFC that he has his funding in place to buy the club. Its all a buggers muddle.
United Front at 11:33:53 Friday July 26 2002
Why should NTFC@2view come up with any alternatives to GDS? Unless I am missing something his view is that none of us know what is going to happen in the future and we are going to have to give GDS (if it does go through) the benefit of (admittedly) a pretty big doubt. Surely it is down to those who totally oppose GDS to come up with alternatives. those who totally oppose GDS
NTFC@2view at 11:20:11 Friday July 26 2002
Too busy pasting to remember to add my name (below). Sorry!
Anon at 10:59:28 Friday July 26 2002
My first answer to you :"NTFC@2view at 14:37:18 Thursday July 25 2002" My second answer: "NTFC@2view at 14:40:55" However, the word should be SALE. It is not up to me to come to you with what to do as I am still hoping the GdS takeover will happen. It is up to you HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN people to come up with alternatives. And don't do the 'People of Northampton' thing because another oaf has used that.
Theodore at 10:50:41 Friday July 26 2002
this is possibly the worst site ive ever seen.
Theodore at 10:49:7 Friday July 26 2002
Northampton can lick my hairy arse they are nothing compared to the mighty Diamonds! http://members.lycos.co.uk/pattonarchive/bbs/
LH at 10:36:24 Friday July 26 2002
Still waiting for a constructive comment from NTFC@2view as what the clubs next move should be if GDS takeover does not happen.
Ray at 10:11:26 Friday July 26 2002
Yes - I must admit I live in hope rather than anticipation.
Suggestions from Ted? at 9:33:5 Friday July 26 2002
Do me a favour. He is one of life's cynics who finds it far easier to snipe from the side lines without ever it letting it trouble his conscience taht he wouldn't have a clue what to do himself. At least some people actually bother to make an effort and if you don't agree with them, at least afford them the dignity of doing something rather than being the playground bitch.
Anon at 9:26:45 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE KATE. KATE TO WIN BB
Anon at 9:26:44 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE KATE. KATE TO WIN BB
Anon at 9:26:42 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE KATE. KATE TO WIN BB
Anon at 9:26:41 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE KATE. KATE TO WIN BB
Anon at 9:26:39 Friday July 26 2002
VOTE KATE. KATE TO WIN BB
Ray at 9:8:11 Friday July 26 2002
Actually, Ted's post raises a serious point. Hes not happy with the Trust as it "has not moved with the times". If this is you thinking Ted (and others) what exactly would you like the Trust to do? I am aware it has its shoprtcomings but until someone comes up with a viable alternative what choice is there if we want supporters to be heard (and please don't come up with the joke 'Sixfields Travel'". Lets hear it Ted - what do you suggest?
Story Time at 8:14:36 Friday July 26 2002
After watching 18 months of total crap, Cobblers supporters celebrated survival with a Pacific cruise. The ship sank. All they could see as they splashed around were hundreds of triangular fins circling them - and hundreds of tiny plastic bottles. Swimming over they found that the bottles were Shark Repellant and there was ragged cheer. "Hang on!" a voice rang out. "Look at that - Made in Peterborough." Resignedly they all - nearly all - swam off towards the waiting predators. "I'd rather be eaten than wipe something made in Peterborough over me," several were heard to comment. just before the end. The remainder rubbed the contents of the bottle over them, but were still not happy. "It won't work," they cried. "Not if it's made in S**tborough." "I hope you're right. It would be terrible to be saved this way," came the reply. "It's all we've got," said Ted. (End of Chapter One [Could be the final end..] Taken from 'Cobblers Tales of Fairies' by Enid @2view)
rashku^ the basher at 8:3:57 Friday July 26 2002
have to adjust its role and its priorities and accept its limitations but in my view its better to bring about that change from the inside rather than leaving god their funny. who needs big brother when we have got our own version of dumb and dumber Northamptonshire people have a great interest in Football,its not a Rugby Town and never has been ,but you have to hand it to the Saints ,they have marketeddid not even get a Reserve gamebe the best advert the Trust have ever had. I would not be surprised they have marketed their product to the best of their ability,but I know for a fact that if we had the Yes but if the fans all became members of the gimby gimbt fuy fuy liuyressfsf monster ears
Nosey Parker at 7:17:56 Friday July 26 2002
Richie..........stick to rugby and while you watch it read a dictionary?
richie fan from nz at 1:36:13 Friday July 26 2002
and for
richie fan from nz at 1:35:35 Friday July 26 2002
make that reported fot you trainspotters....
richie fan from nz at 1:34:18 Friday July 26 2002
we have a team in the aussie soccer league and its been repoeted in the papers here they are having talks with none other than gazza.you think you got problems.lol
richie fan from nz at 1:31:37 Friday July 26 2002
if you want to see speed go and watch the saints next season.bruce raihana,a donkey named jonah lomu is keeping him out of the all blacks
nightshift at 1:8:36 Friday July 26 2002
Darren Barnard, Jonathan Coates and Chris Hargreaves are all still listed on the pfa site of available players, Nathan Abbey is no longer listed, at least not under goalkeepers anyway
EGM at 0:7:18 Friday July 26 2002
The egm is a joke its not about the GDS takeover at all, but just a ruse so that the club can say "oh well we did our bit, but that nice mr GDS did not stump up the cash" they even repeat today that his funding is still not operative. Funny thing is that ntfc2view, Ted and jra and birdy et al on the official site fall for it hook line and sinker every time. They might as well hang plackards round their necks saying "gullible, please feed me a line and watch me take the bait" god their funny. who needs big brother when we have got our own version of dumb and dumber
TED?JADE? at 23:43:58 Thursday July 25 2002
Is Ted the Jade of Cobblers Comments ie "most fans of NTFC probably don`t know who Arkan was,or what the war in former Yugoslavia was all about, and also are not all that bothered" oh ignorance is bliss!! or even "Football,its not a Rugby Town and never has been ,but you have to hand it to the Saints ,they have marketed their product to the best of their ability" what is this bloke on? love to see him post when he is pissed. He must be the best advert the Trust have ever had. I would not be surprised if Dave Linnel isn't paying him to keep posting his crap, makes me want to join the Trust for one.
CP at 23:37:18 Thursday July 25 2002
blimey Ted I actually think I almost agree with you there, the main difference is that I stayed in the trust despite not being in favour of some of its decisions - I think in time it will have to adjust its role and its priorities and accept its limitations but in my view its better to bring about that change from the inside rather than leaving and then sniping from a distance. Does anyone have a view on why the club (Gareth) have said that they called an EGM to 'avoid taking the full blame if the takeover doesnt go through' sounds like a bit of arse coveringto me..surely they should have just said 'we've done our bit as you asked Mr Di Stefano, now hold up your end of the deal' btw is Ted short for Theodore? and was that you using the posh version of your name earlier!!!!?
Ted at 22:57:3 Thursday July 25 2002
Bazza. In an ideal world yes,but can the Trust attract the fans to join ?The Trust really has to revolutionise its image,and I truly don`t think it can in its present form.Unfortunately the Trust just han`t moved with the times.Football has changed so much since 1992,even fans attitudes have changed.Whether we like it or not footbal is a business and needs to be seen to be progressive,it needs to be fashionable.Northamptonshire people have a great interest in Football,its not a Rugby Town and never has been ,but you have to hand it to the Saints ,they have marketed their product to the best of their ability,but I know for a fact that if we had the forward thinking attitude ,and of course the money we would be a much bigger club than they could ever be.That is what really grieves me,the negative "we don`t like change"attitude of the Trust,who are quite happy to let our club fester away waiting for Mr Right to appear.
dateline at 22:44:8 Thursday July 25 2002
r ted and NTFC@2view lovers um
NSB at 22:36:14 Thursday July 25 2002
yes tizer, potent stuff, mix it with pepsi and youre a goner!
Smithy at 22:33:29 Thursday July 25 2002
has everybody been on the pop tonight?
NSB at 22:31:44 Thursday July 25 2002
that should say bloody thinG not thinK...........
NSB at 22:30:46 Thursday July 25 2002
just seen on the official site that an EGM has been called, i agree anon, what are they playing at, it took them ages to decide they didnt need one, when GDS was saying that it was necessary to comply with the law, now theyve changed their mind, had they called the bloody think immediately it would have all been settled by now!
Anon at 22:28:19 Thursday July 25 2002
No wonder nobody wants to buy this fucking club when all that happens is that they get a slagging off from the fans and dicked about by the board so they have called an EGM now after telling us 2 weeks ago that it wasnt needed (2 weeks after initially saying it was)
Bazza at 22:22:1 Thursday July 25 2002
Sorry should read, '..then the trust would...' Crap box
Bazza at 22:20:2 Thursday July 25 2002
TED 18 56. Yes but if the fans all became members of the Trust and used their "democratic'' muscle to influence it's direction the the Trust would become the fan's true representative body. No?
NTFC@2view at 20:42:2 Thursday July 25 2002
Ten Heuvel did not even get a Reserve game!
NTFC@2view at 20:41:18 Thursday July 25 2002
(Crap stupid window) rep not shout about Tom Barry earlier? He must have seen it and known what it said. Or was he not shown it?
NTFC@2view at 20:38:47 Thursday July 25 2002
For everybody (nearly) except Ted. Why did your
NTFC@2view at 20:37:59 Thursday July 25 2002
If you got Trollope, good for you. I admit I gave up on you after the non-news of Raunds. I'll start reading you again now.
BIG JIM at 20:23:2 Thursday July 25 2002
That chap Laurens Ten Heuval, did we not take him on trial/loan a little while back? He has signed for Sheff Utd for a six figure fee. I remember Janet York telling me that she could have ran faster than him and finished better also!
Anon at 20:18:13 Thursday July 25 2002
To talk to Tom Barry direct e-mail Tom Barry on info@media-ent-man.com
ANGEL OF THE HORSE WHISPERER at 20:17:45 Thursday July 25 2002
The church getting involved in football and our board.....that`s all we need! I was not wrong about the international player(s) though was I NTFC@2view at 14:43:42 Thursday July 25 2002
Ted at 19:53:21 Thursday July 25 2002
I knock the Trust simply because it is so out of touch with what the majority of fans want.This club is crying out for a supporters group that will appeal to the majority.Of course there will be difference of opinion, but what has the Trust had to offer at this critical time in our history.There was need of a genuine debate regarding the GDS Takeover,but all that the fans were offered from the Trust side was a pile of information regarding GDS` political past.Did it not occur to them that most fans of NTFC probably don`t know who Arkan was,or what the war in former Yugoslavia was all about, and also are not all that bothered.The rights and wrongs of that are not to be debated on this site,or at a supporters group meeting.Therefore I consider the way that the Trust has presented itself at this important time as unforgivable ,and now sadly for the Trust the damage irrevocable.
NTFC@2view at 19:48:30 Thursday July 25 2002
"short of answers", short of brains. Another little dictator. "Don't let that nasty man have a different opinion from me. If I say GdS is a poo face he is. So ner! If him and Ted were banned we could talk about everyone in Northampton walking up to Sixfields singing 'Fields of Green' and putting notes in big claret buckets. Oooooh, the thought makes me quiver."
NTFC@2view at 19:44:18 Thursday July 25 2002
Post at 14:2:24. "as to what would happen after the takeover. I am afraid the club and GDS are getting an easy ride at the moment because we are all too busy arguing with each other instead of looking a bit deeper and saying "Hang on a minute, none of this stacks up and those responsible should tell us their intentions and how much the deal is worth to them before it's done and not after. So come on Cobblers fans get up off your Knees and stand up to these people ntfc@2view and Ted are not important they are just knocking copy to keep you off the scent. Go to the Hodder meeting go to the Trust meeting and speak your own mind and stop repeating the crap that you have been fed by the club." You didn't make that point at the time published. It was some rambling call to the feeble minded and downtrodden to rise up and the people of Northampton would come to the Cobblers rescue. You are seriously deranged - see a doctor! And I answered you in 2m 15s and a couple of other answers followed.
Gareth di Stefano at 19:35:40 Thursday July 25 2002
Hello fans! (You bunch of prats.) When didn't I answer your question? Which didn't I answer? Ask it again. There's so much shíte talked I can't tell if I've answered all of it. And some of it would definitely be better ignored. Like my new name?
Round in Circles at 19:33:13 Thursday July 25 2002
Having said they would discuss it in public the club aren now saying on the site that Di Stefano's solicitors were told about the egm on Wed, so they could not blame the club for the delay!! They then say that "his funding is still not operative" in other words he has not come up with the dosh and that we will "have to wait and see"!! talk about tit for tat, just what the f*^k is going on?
Not just the trust at 19:24:26 Thursday July 25 2002
Ted it's not just some from the Trust who are not happy about Mr Di Stefano I travel with Sixfields and voted on Rays poll for the club to have nothing to do with him, and I know there are others like me, Can you ask Barry Parker if we too can have a poll, after all you sit on the exec
short of answers at 19:21:58 Thursday July 25 2002
Voice of reason, you are right about ntfc@2view refusing to answer any questions, I am starting to wonder if ntfc@2view and GDS are not related in some way. And as for Ted, well how many times do we have to say it? I think both ntfc@2view and Ted should be put on the board by GDS both have proven to be gutless little arselickers who have the ability to walk around with their heads up their own arses and ready to say "we never saw nuffin govnor, Mr GDS, god wonderful person sir, honest we didn't" can we not have TED and ntfc@2view free days so we can have some decent comment and debate?
Voice of Reason at 19:16:37 Thursday July 25 2002
I think Ted and ntfc@2view have just proved the point I made at 14:2:24 earlier Ted just's uses every post to knock the Trust and ntfc@2view never answers any question put to him but simply changes the subject quickly. I js
Ted at 19:11:40 Thursday July 25 2002
Voice Of Reason .You`re no doubt another Trusty who doesn`t like it when someone comes on here with a different opinion to yourself.If you want a messageboard of Trusties create one on your own Website and ban all those who you don`t agree with from posting.
RUBBER DUCK at 19:2:31 Thursday July 25 2002
If Tom Barry has been a cobbs fan all his life why now? not 5 or 10 or last year, but nowshow an intrest in buying NTFC
Ted at 18:56:58 Thursday July 25 2002
Bazza at 14.54 I agree with everything that you said but(and its a bloody big but)The Trust knows no other opinion but its own. Which is something that I have been accused of many times.Pot and Black Kettle comes to mind!
RUBBER DUCK at 18:51:26 Thursday July 25 2002
Why is GDS such a bad thing, ok his made money out of some bad folk,so? And why always have a pop at Ted, NTFC@2VIEW,etc they can clearly see if the club does not have new investment it will fold. Also you hear & see more of GDS than Tom Barry, to belive that gds is the better offer for the club to move forward
Ted at 18:47:44 Thursday July 25 2002
Interesting Trusty posts today,but not one giving a worthwhile option to the GDS takeover.This is typical of the Trust and the people who represent it,and that is why it is now such a feeble organisation where the majority have no input at all.They are there because they have always been there (since 1992 anyway),yet they contribute nothing.Yet there are others like me ,who were there in 1992 but have seen first hand the lack of action,the lack of achievment and the lack of empathy with the real supporters of NTFC.If you go to the official site there`s another ex Trusty who was dismayed at what the Trust had become.Here we are at the most important chapter in the clubs history and what input has the Trust had? I think we all know the answer to that one!
Rodders at 18:39:13 Thursday July 25 2002
How do you distinguish between a premier league fan and a lower division supporter? Before anyone mentions glory hunting, the answer is that we just bitch about supportes club coaches, the trust, takeover bids etc. whereas they talk about football...well, some of the time anyway. No club is as bad about bitching backstabbing and infighting as ours, surely? On the subject of glory hunting, that's precisely what 35000 of our 45000 support at Wembley in 1998 were doing.
Smithy at 17:52:15 Thursday July 25 2002
you cant even spell rushden, you tart
theodore at 16:32:2 Thursday July 25 2002
if you would like to contact me further i would appreciate if you bitched about me on my site http://members.lycos.co.uk/pattonarchive/bbs/index.php
Theodore at 16:26:25 Thursday July 25 2002
northampton are rushdan and diamonds bitch boys
Theodore at 16:24:38 Thursday July 25 2002
i am sexy
Bazza at 15:50:42 Thursday July 25 2002
Glass half empty? What glass? We 'ad paper cups and thought ourselves lucky!
LH at 15:34:53 Thursday July 25 2002
Yes ,to a local multi millionaire , life long loyal supporter . The week before Meteor lands on Sixfields.
Anon at 15:20:53 Thursday July 25 2002
Does anyone think that the club will be sold before the meteor that is meant to be heading towards earth arrives?
Anon at 15:18:53 Thursday July 25 2002
My glass is also half empty but any minute now it's going to fall over and break
Bazza at 15:16:6 Thursday July 25 2002
Corrections 2; triumberate (still not sure)
Bazza at 15:2:2 Thursday July 25 2002
Corrections; decide, hopers
Bazza at 15:0:52 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2VIEW. I think Mike Summerbee completes you triumbrate(not sure about tht spelling!) Didn't Stepney dicide he'ed be better of with some no hoper called, Manchester United?
BIG JIM at 14:54:56 Thursday July 25 2002
It`s a fetish......not really it comes with the job.....soon to retire???
Bazza at 14:54:31 Thursday July 25 2002
Until there is another representative body which is lead and run by fans then what other voice do we have but the trust? If all the people who regularly attend games became trust members and voiced their opinions through the trust, then would it not become the mouthpeice that we all want? It costs a £7 to become a trust member, if everyone who feels strongly enough to voice an opinion here joined and formed a common front would that not achieve more than the whistling in the dark that goes on here? Is it not time for the fanatics to take over the asylum?
LH at 14:53:24 Thursday July 25 2002
Of course its half empty i've been watching the Town for 20 years !
NTFC@2view at 14:52:22 Thursday July 25 2002
Don't be so sensitive. Your remark could have been construed as demanding my reply. I should have put LOL I suppose.
NTFC@2view at 14:50:41 Thursday July 25 2002
Talk to you later LH. Work to do. I hope you read both my answers. I bet your glass is half empty!
LH at 14:50:25 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2VIEW . Where does all this pent up aggression come from? Whos being hard? Just waiting for a constructive comment.
LH at 14:47:6 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2view. Voice of reason 13.57. I dont believe the takeover will happen. To many contradictions. If it did I think we could be a worse mess than we are now. GDS plans dont add up , never had to me ever since day 1. I'm just interested in your plan B , what would you suggest the Club does if GDS does not takeover .
NTFC@2view at 14:44:17 Thursday July 25 2002
Come on LH. Get a move on.
NTFC@2view at 14:43:42 Thursday July 25 2002
Angel of the horse whisperer at 14:10:59 Thursday July 25 2002 - Are you the prat that whispered the big secret that other night - that Dave Savage and Steve Howard would be at Raunds? Any more big coups?
NTFC@2view at 14:41:41 Thursday July 25 2002
..sale and slag off the next person that tries to buy it.
NTFC@2view at 14:40:55 Thursday July 25 2002
And if that answer was too 'poetic' for you - put the club up for sakl
NTFC@2view at 14:39:41 Thursday July 25 2002
LH - Don't get all 'hard'. "I'm still waiting.." my arse!
NTFC@2view at 14:38:48 Thursday July 25 2002
So what's an old sod like you doing in uniform? You should be resting.
NTFC@2view at 14:37:18 Thursday July 25 2002
LH. Which voice of reason do you mean? Which points are good? Are you worried about the takeover not happening? Or going wrong after it happens? Can I say this ; When we went up to the old First Division we were offered Colin Bell, Alex Stepney and somebody else (Hope I've got the names right) for £80000. I suppose it was a lot of money in those days, but they were internationals. Somebody said, "But what if it goes wrong?" We were relegated like a landslide and have been totally insignificant ever since. What if someone had said, "What if it goes right?"
BIG JIM at 14:35:23 Thursday July 25 2002
So was I
LH at 14:33:55 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2view. I'm still waiting.........
NTFC@2view at 14:31:12 Thursday July 25 2002
Big Jim - nice one! Where were you when Tommy Fowler crossed to Jack English? I was on the Spion Kop.
NTFC@2view at 14:28:11 Thursday July 25 2002
And what the hell does 'what the deal's worth to them' got to do with you? Are they your shares? Did you guarantee loans? You purchase a fairly poor commodity and expect to know what goes on in the board room. Amazing.
BIG JIM at 14:19:6 Thursday July 25 2002
It is a pity that we don`t have just a fraction of those who went to Wembley attending every week. It`s amazing what success can do
BIG JIM at 14:16:26 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2view , what is so wrong with being associated with the trust. They were an integral part of the re- birth of the club in the early nineties....that`s if you can remember that far back. Summer holidays is it not? Were you not part of the Tuesday evening crew at the County ground who used to get "Back to school tomorrow shouted at you?
LH at 14:12:28 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC@2view. Voice of reason had some good points to make but have you ? What would you suggest the Club do if the GDS takeover fails. Please advise a constructive well thought out comment , I would be interested to read your views on this.
Bazza at 14:11:58 Thursday July 25 2002
Ask the great Northampton public for support? I'll let you ask first, I think I already know the answer!
Angel of the horse whisperer at 14:10:59 Thursday July 25 2002
The only people you seem to see on CC is NTFC@2view & Ted. They just talk so much crap and as somebody else put it "GO BACK UNDER TO GARETH WILSHER`S DESK". They seem to think they have the monopoly on this board who can`t reason with people and lick each other`s arses on what a great bloke they are......Have you not got anything better to do saddos !!!
I was reading Seamus Heaney and found this at 14:6:46 Thursday July 25 2002
We marked the pitch: four jackets for four goalposts,/ That was all. The corners and the squares/ Were there like longtitude and latitude/ Under the bumpy thistly ground, to be/ Agreed about or disagreed about/ When the time came. And then we picked the teams/ And crossed the lines our called names drew between us. Youngsters shouting their heads off in a field/ As the light died and they kept on playing/ Because by then they were playing in their heads/ And the actual kicked ball came to them/ Like a dream heaviness, and their own hard/ Breathing in the dark and skids on the grass/ Sounded like effort in another world.../ It was quick and constant,a game that never need/ Be played out. Some limit had been passed,/ There was fleetness, furtherance, untiredness/ In time that was extra, unforeseen and free.
NTFC@2view at 14:6:42 Thursday July 25 2002
Bloody hell, ther are voices of reason all over the place? Crawl back under the Trust's table! (I think that's what you have to say.)
NTFC@2view at 14:4:39 Thursday July 25 2002
Is this the same Northampton public that regularly turns up at Sixfields by the thousand to support the team? The 4000 or so on average? They will cough up a lot more quite happily, like they did when season ticket prices were raised a couple of years ago? (Remeber the demonstration?) So stopping me posting would sort out NTFC's problems would it? I try, I really do, but - what a thick twat! Still, you've found the Caps Shift!
voice of reason at 14:2:24 Thursday July 25 2002
as to what would happen after the takeover. I am afraid the club and GDS are getting an easy ride at the moment because we are all too busy arguing with each other instead of looking a bit deeper and saying "Hang on a minute, none of this stacks up and those responsible should tell us their intentions and how much the deal is worth to them before it's done and not after. So come on Cobblers fans get up off your Knees and stand up to these people ntfc@2view and Ted are not important they are just knocking copy to keep you off the scent. Go to the Hodder meeting go to the Trust meeting and speak your own mind and stop repeating the crap that you have been fed by the club.
Voice of Reason at 13:57:24 Thursday July 25 2002
First of all stop letting the sychophantic posters get away with there pious crap, GDS would be a nightmare for the club, not just because of his past but because he cant be trusted to keep his word and lives in a dream world of his own self importance where every one loves him and he can (and has not) do no wrong. He wants internationals but wont spend his money on them. He wants to make a profit from NTFC but needs to treble the debt to do it? secondly we tell the wasters at the club what we really think of there poor excuses and non commital answers and say o.k if the GDS is really in the best interests of NTFC, then show us the detail, including who gets what and where the money comes from and goes to. and then if the clubs in financial trouble we go out to the Northampton public for help as they do really have the clubs interests at heart. But to begin with lets start to open our eyes and see that the takeover is not the issue. what we should concentrate on is the lack of answers
Bazza at 13:42:35 Thursday July 25 2002
THE VOICE OF REASON/ YOU ARE RIGHT, So what do you think we should do to save the club?
voice of reason at 13:34:15 Thursday July 25 2002
And this is my second post on here.
You are right (from Knockneed Chicken) at 12:50:47 Thursday July 25 2002
NTFC2 (and Anon) are the biggest pair of mindless morons on here they are so far up their arses they can't see any sense wouldn't amaze me if they were shagging each others egos!
voice of reason at 12:16:9 Thursday July 25 2002
Everytime I come on here I find Ted and ntfc@2view spouting the same crap, they either live with Gareth Wilsher or see the world through rose coloured spectacles or perhaps both. The pait of them are either too stupid too see the truth or are purposely trying to wind everyone else up. GDS is on a big ego trip and (by his own admmision) on the make at the same time. I challenge both Ted and ntfc@2view to re read his numerous postings on the official site and count a) the number of times he has said one thing and done another 2) the number of deadlines he has set and missed 3) the number of times he has said "its still on" and then done nothing to back up his rhetoric and 4) try and work out from the maze of misinformation and rants why he wants to buy the club in the first place. If you can do that I might take notice of you if not crawl back under Wilsher's desk
NTFC@2view at 11:58:34 Thursday July 25 2002
"crobar at 9:59:12 Thursday July 25 2002" In just the same way we're up there with Real Madrid!
The (now) Inadequate Husband at 10:36:29 Thursday July 25 2002
My missus says she knew a Di Stafano at Wollaston School about 1970. He used to ask her out! She may have changed her mind now if it's the same man and he's got all this cash!
crobar at 9:59:12 Thursday July 25 2002
ted, did people have to really know Hitler to see that he was evil? GDS is right down there with him!!
richie fan from nz at 9:5:40 Thursday July 25 2002
look around you and see how many clubs are in the poo and i bet there are some we dont know about.with a club like the cobblers the owners be lucky if they break even,football is full of people with a dodgy past how many of you have done things in the past you not proud of.lets go on we have the surporters the coach and the players lets get behind the lads,if you want the cobblers to go belly up you have no right being on here.only 2 weeks to go so lets talk positive and go the cobblers.
tOM bARRY at 9:3:1 Thursday July 25 2002
Who is he, i used to knock about with same named in Northampton years ago, he was from St Marys School, he was pretty boring....
richie fan from nz at 8:49:29 Thursday July 25 2002
thanks bazza fairbrother was the name i couldnt get, now i can sleep.
Hotel Ender at 23:0:56 Wednesday July 24 2002
I find it funny that Ted talks about "sound judgement" "without knowing all the facts" yet he slags off the Trust at the drop of a hat without "sound judgement" and "without knowing all the facts". as I said last night - as usual he's talking bollocks - and I think he nailed his colours firmly to the mast by admitting he'd rather follow R&D in Div 3 than the Cobblers in the UCL (ok he didn't say he'd follow them in Div 3 - but they ain't going any further)
Nosey Parker at 22:1:37 Wednesday July 24 2002
I think GDS also ran over my cat back in 98...........bastard!!!!!
NTFC@2view at 21:24:28 Wednesday July 24 2002
And, of course, Derek Banks redscouse! The Tom Barry bid is a strange thing - how it remained 'secret' for so long. Maybe we're 'used' to bids being 'open' and shouted about, but this was a very secret affair. And, as I've said before, the abstract on the trust site is - to me - a total non-event. Who really knows? Even he doesn't seem to be offering to throw cash at us.
Ted at 21:3:18 Wednesday July 24 2002
A Childs View.You are so right when you say that we don`t have all of the facts.How on earth can anyone make a sound judgment one way or the other without knowing all of the facts.There are people on here who are prepared to condemn GDS for every crime under the sun ,but without knowing all of the facts.One thing that is a fact however ,is that if this club is not taken over soon it will fold!
The Drilling Cobbler at 21:0:15 Wednesday July 24 2002
Totally agree NTFC - it is fair to say we have no choice but to take the gamble as under the present board the results are likely to be the same but without the GDS 'Swing of the bat'. But that gamble should ONLY be taken if there really is no alternative. Which is why i'm suggesting that if Tom Barry is serious it should be now that he starts making noises, otherwise even his bid cannot be taken seriously by anyone. I am 'in the middle' but would prefer GDS to Stonhill if push came to shove. Having said that, Tom Barry or GDS and I think most people would come up with the same choice!
redscouse at 20:53:45 Wednesday July 24 2002
So, here we go again...........another supposed saviour! we have had loads of them......not one done any good..Underwood ,a complete tosser,and as for Mcritchie well nuff said.If this GDS puts money in great but do we beleive it......we have been there before and got nowhere I just hope that in 18 months time we still have a club to go to ...
LDB at 20:48:27 Wednesday July 24 2002
I think the club....I know the club needs a fresh input of money and ideas - but from someone who does 'have the best interests of the club' at heart. I don't think its GDS but what can we do?
LDB at 20:45:24 Wednesday July 24 2002
I do think that Stonhill and co are probably bored with proping up a club which seems to have lots of lows a few highs and very little stability
NTFC@2view at 20:41:12 Wednesday July 24 2002
A Childs View at 20:36:40 Wednesday July 24 2002. You are so right! But it hasn't stopped anyone yet!
NTFC@2view at 20:39:25 Wednesday July 24 2002
Sorry LDB
NTFC@2view at 20:38:49 Wednesday July 24 2002
LBD - how do you stand with regard to Stonhill et al?
A Childs View at 20:36:40 Wednesday July 24 2002
We're all guessing, fact is there has been misinformation all along. Essentially, dialogue between us fans is pretty pointless - we don't have the true facts at our disposal. Does GDS have £300 million personal wealth or not even a pot to piss in - none of us have a clue. I'm totally bored of it all now, bring on the football - the politics is just spin and conjecture.
LDB at 20:28:42 Wednesday July 24 2002
If GDS had 'ready' cash and he wanted to buy the club with the intention of building something for his children - I would have thought he would have made moves to get control as soon as possible, or he could wait for us to fall to our knees with no money and buy at a knock down price
NTFC@2 view at 20:23:39 Wednesday July 24 2002
But doesn't liquidation seem to be a pretty real possibility if he doesn't take over? Aren't there a lot of clubs facing extinction? It seems to me that this way we have a chance. I think Kevan Broadhurst seems to be a really sensible manager who could do big things with just a bit more money. Why does everyone have to be so negative?
The Drilling Cobbler at 20:17:49 Wednesday July 24 2002
And what does GDS lose? Sod all. Prior to the 'experiment' failing, he cashes in where he can and probably simply loses the remainder of the overdraft. Presuming that he has personnaly guaranteed it but there are probably legal loopholes to get him round that being the fact that NTFC is a ltd company. I do not pretend to know anything about company, but the whole thing simply doesnt add up. His post today once again confirms his main motivation being profit - why not buy shares in a company which has more chance of being profitable? Indeed it contrasts very much with Mr Pages claim at the trust meeting that he simply 'wants to put something back into the community that is responsible for his education and upbringing'. If Tom Barry is serious, I would hope that it is now that he surfaces publicly before it is to late and before NTFC becomes a number on the casino table.
The Drilling Cobbler at 20:10:42 Wednesday July 24 2002
The web of confusion continues to grow by the day. At the start, I argued GDS's case quite vigerously, and I would do the same again if another so called rogue with loads of bunce appeared to be interested in spending some of it on the Cobblers. My views have changed, and they have nothing to do with moral ones. The way I see it now is similar to alot of people who have posted on this board - the guy wants to treble the overdraft and sell the club for 10million or so in a few years. Without 'appearing' to spend a penny of his own money. I actually think it is a complete gamble on his part - if the players he brings in on the 'never never' perform we then get promoted, he buys the ground cheap off the council who cannot afford to upgrade it, sells a couple of the championship winning side heroes for big bucks, and then cashes in. Simple really. Unfortunately, if these 'international' stars do not get us promoted and the overdraft runs out, what happens next? Liquidation of course. ct.
Bazza (the train spotter) at 20:10:33 Wednesday July 24 2002
TO RICHIE NZ. I seem to remember John Fairbrother scoring in the 8-2 against Man U
LDB at 20:7:5 Wednesday July 24 2002
Maybe someone should give Mr Barwell a ring and ask him if he fancies a new project - if I remember he also moves alittle quicker than a certain Italian, although he doesn't like to talk as much as Fash
Bazza at 20:5:48 Wednesday July 24 2002
It's been said before but what realistic alternative do we have to the GDS deal? Do we just carry on lurching from crisis to crisis until finally the creditors call time? I've heard that there 13 or so league clubs for sale at present? I don't see many people queing up to buy. Did anyone go to Telford? Match Report please.
NTFC@2view at 19:58:26 Wednesday July 24 2002
Spent a Penny - So GdS finds a bank for the club (which he doesn't own) that will triple the club's overdraft and he will then use that overdraft to buy the club? So the club will buy itself for him? Please explain.
LDB at 19:56:16 Wednesday July 24 2002
Is anyone actually looking forward to the start of the season - In a seemingly worse position than we finished the last in??? GDS or no GDS!!
NTFC@2view at 19:55:12 Wednesday July 24 2002
But Ted's Ted and not a different name each time. At least we are prepared to stand up and take it - and give it, of course. I respect him for that, but not you Mr Different Name This Time. You want to be able to come back and say, when things go well, "All those who had a go at GdS - where are you now?"
Too Late at 19:23:29 Wednesday July 24 2002
Too late for apologies Ted, as always you only see what you want to see. and as such your views are often ignored.
Spent Penny at 19:21:37 Wednesday July 24 2002
GDS is not just a bad penny he is a spent penny, in fact he seems he would want to spend it three times over? If I have read it right he wants to find a new bank which will treble the clubs overdraft, therefore putting us more in the cart than we are now and use the additional borrowing to pay off the directors loans and buy the club, all without dipping his hand in his own pocket once? He then wants to bring in internationals on high wages and pay for them out of the same income as we have now? He doesn't want the ground, or to get involved but he clearly expects that in 3 years the club will be worth £10m? And there are still people around who wonder why some dont take him seriously. Either maths wasn't there strongest subject at school or perhaps their favorite book id the Emporers New Clothes? Ted and ntfc@2view explain this for me as I am lost
Ted at 19:17:27 Wednesday July 24 2002
Sorry ,Sorry .I could have sworn he said that .Humble apologies!
Ted at 19:15:30 Wednesday July 24 2002
For Hotel Ender last night at 23.17.Yes I would rather watch R&D ,than the Cobblers in the UCL.Trouble is the clubs full of tossers like you that are stuck in a Hotel End Time Warp.
Sorry? at 19:14:28 Wednesday July 24 2002
Trouble is Ted, he didn't say that did he? I think the word "Trusties" was your little addition was it not, enjoy the few hours playing in the sun before the clouds open again.
Ted at 19:7:53 Wednesday July 24 2002
My favourite quote form GDS this afternoon......For all of those Trusties who thought that the "deal was off" were and remain sadly mistaken. As in all commercial transactions there are always delays and the legal formalities thesedays must be paramount.
NTFC@2view at 19:7:19 Wednesday July 24 2002
You're wrong about me being 'non football', but I haven't watched much over the last 2 years as I've been watching NTFC. (That is a joke - but the football wasn't!) So my posts are a bit ott - but on purpose; some of he crap on here is meant to be serious! People are still saying Stonhill's trying to get his own money back, just like the sods who lent me money to buy my house! (Every month they take it!) I spend a fair bit of my time on my computer and when I get a bit stuck with what I'm doing I come on here and see what some idiot has written that I can reply to. It gets frustrating at times, because people don't stick to any rules, but getting back to my 'serious business' is always a relief.
Bad Penny Turns Up (again) at 18:34:43 Wednesday July 24 2002
He's back again, larger than life on the clubs board writing reams and saying nothing, more platitudes more mysterious comments, still no money, still no new dates, just when you thought it was safe to start talking about football again up he pops, the club will probably now make a statement about waiting for his money to be operative, fans will ask questions and get no answers and the saga continues.OHH Iv'e got a headache!!
easily amused at 18:19:55 Wednesday July 24 2002
Then again ntfc@2view It never takes much too get any of your emotions flowing as fast as the river nene. How can the club hide an egm you muppet, for a start the trust would have an invite. I just dont think you are for real your posts are just too provocative and your displayed levels of stupidity far too magnified for them to be genuine. I reckon your just some sad non football geek who gets his rocks off disagrreing with everyone and anyone, a kind of web version of Victor Mildrew and Alf Garnet, I suppose your even reading this one handed using the other to bash the old bishop. Why dont you invite that nice young lad Ted around to yours I think you could bond.
NTFC@2view at 18:14:11 Wednesday July 24 2002
"....do you think he is as poular as he was when he first surfaced?" If that was being popular, thank god I'm not!
NTFC@2view at 18:4:15 Wednesday July 24 2002
I used to want GdS to takeover, but now I think I'd prefer to see us go bust and then I could laugh as I watch you all walk past my house to the Racecourse, where you would rather we played than let that man have anything to do with our club. That would amuse me.
NTFC@2view at 18:2:58 Wednesday July 24 2002
"In their own words at 17:42:27 - I think they should have kept silent." He added, "Then we could REALLY have a go when it getss leaked!
NTFC@2view at 17:56:52 Wednesday July 24 2002
I think the meeting is an excuse to get together and drink expensive claret PAID FOR BY US, THE LONG SUFFERING FANS OF NORTHAMPTON TOWN. Let's all be there and turn our backs on them to show them how we feel! (I trust no-one implicitly What it means is.. but there is still only one deal and a charity donation on th etable.)
In their own words at 17:42:27 Wednesday July 24 2002
"The pupose of this is to renew the provisions under 80a of the Companies Act 1985 for a period of five years enabling the Directors to be authorised to excersise any power of the company to allot and grant rights to subscribe in or convert securities into shares of the company up to the amount of the share capital of the company authorised but unissued at the date of the resolution" So sod the fans, have an egm to enable everything to be done behind closed doors and without having to disclose any detail as to who gets what and how much it costs the club. Just when you thought things couldn't get worse!! It was only Monday that the club said they were not going to comment anymore. I think they should have kept silent.
LH at 17:41:7 Wednesday July 24 2002
Anybody at the Telford game? How did Trollope perform ?
Anon at 17:38:15 Wednesday July 24 2002
no hes not as popular as he once was. add in to your list of reasons the other option in the Tom Barry and that Di Stefano was never going to put new money into the club but just allow it to run up three times the debt.
What it means is.. at 17:20:48 Wednesday July 24 2002
ntfc@2view, what it means is that whilst processing the GDS bid they realised they had F%*^*ed up and so they are now having an egm to ensure they dont need an egm to sell the club, the purpose of the meeting is as stated on the official site to change the articles of association and nothing else. I am probably not alone in also thinking that they are trying to call GDS's bluff. One question to you though, having seen the way this guy operates, and the way he has mislead the club and the fans over when, how and if ever the deal would go through, not to mention empty promises of internationals etc do you still trust him implicitly and do you think he is as poular as he was when he first surfaced?
Richard at 17:20:42 Wednesday July 24 2002
Come on then NTFC@2VIEW , what is the EGM about, in your opinion????
NTFC@2view at 17:13:39 Wednesday July 24 2002
I certainly don't think it's got anything to do with any takeover.
Anon at 17:12:48 Wednesday July 24 2002
its a cover up....the trust is a shareholder so TCMP as its board rep will receive the egm agenda
LH at 17:2:41 Wednesday July 24 2002
Seems obvious to me. What do you think it means NTFC@2VIEW ?
NTFC@2view at 16:41:41 Wednesday July 24 2002
Any idea what this means? "Northampton Town Football Club has called an Extraordinary General Meeting regarding Mr Giovanni Di Stefano's purchase of the club."
LH at 16:41:35 Wednesday July 24 2002
It seems obvious that neither party trusts the other so if its 'in the best interests of the Club' why are the Directors selling to someone they dont trust ?
Tut! Tut! at 16:37:17 Wednesday July 24 2002
Why don't the pair of you go somewhere else? You are both like poison.
Its a cover up at 16:33:55 Wednesday July 24 2002
To EGM farce @ 14:42, Having just had a look at the club statement, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. The egm is about section 80a of the companies act, not the GDS deal. This means that if the egm agrees to renew the articles of association then the board can do their dealings without the need for an egm and without disclosing what each of them got out of the deal. Does anyone know a shareholder as I for one would like to see the agenda. Meanwhile the club say the deal COULD still happen if the money is forthcoming, but so far they say it has not? They also said they would not call an egm until it was, so whats changed? No doubt GDS or his son will now respond with more mealy mouthed words and empty promises.
to Anon and NTFC2 at 16:14:23 Wednesday July 24 2002
Why dont the pair of you go somewhere else you are both like poison
Richard at 15:50:14 Wednesday July 24 2002
It was forwarded to me, he was saying any rumour of him taking over at bournmouth was rubbish and also said that matters are in NTFC's hands until an EGM is called which still hasn;t happened
Anon at 15:37:51 Wednesday July 24 2002
Richard where did you read that mail
richie fan from nz at 15:30:48 Wednesday July 24 2002
frank large scored one of the goals when we got beat 8-2 by man united in the F A cup.any train spotters out there tell me who scored the other goal please
crobar at 15:26:25 Wednesday July 24 2002
just been reading through postings - first time for a long time for various reasons - do we have a psychic MP and representative? It's amazing - everything he predicted has happened or is happening.... TCMP any idea of lotto numbers?
Richard at 15:15:31 Wednesday July 24 2002
It's all rubbish, as far as I can see the two sides are not speaking to each other, and are playing media games. Who knows what will happen, but if I were a betting man I would be inclined to bet that the deal with GDS will not go through for whatever reason.
LH at 15:14:29 Wednesday July 24 2002
Its allright lodging a contract but I bet GDS has not signed anything yet. Fell off his Vespa and hurt his arm.
NTFC@2view at 15:11:2 Wednesday July 24 2002
Any idea what this means? "The contracts for the deal have been agreed by both sides and have been lodged with the solicitors. In our opinion the EGM is a formality, but it is a formality which must be undertaken."
Richard at 15:8:47 Wednesday July 24 2002
Just seen a mail from GDS timed at 2.00pmish today, and at that time he had no knowledge of an EGM.
Anon at 15:1:48 Wednesday July 24 2002
GdS never was going to produce any 'new' money of his own, he was just going to increase the clubs overdraft and its liabilities
EGM Farce at 14:42:45 Wednesday July 24 2002
From what I can see, (reading the club statement) the egm is not to deal with the GDS bid at all, it clearly states that the purpose of the meeting is to renew the articles of association for another 5 years which simply gives the directors the rights to decide to sell without the need for an egm, which is what they thought they had at the open forum but discovered they did not have soon after. My belief is that GDS has gone for good and this is a last gasp effort to try to call his bluff.
LH at 14:19:4 Wednesday July 24 2002
Read the notice about the EGM on the official site and could anybody explain why GDS cant do this after he has bought the club? Seems he wants to issue more shares in the future. Why the urgency now ? Also heard from a reliable source that the only reason no progress had been made was that GDS had not produced any money and not backed up all his talk.
NTFC@2view at 14:8:51 Wednesday July 24 2002
Posh tickets this year. Anyone would think the club are being taken over!
Anon at 13:43:1 Wednesday July 24 2002
Big Bill, not much to say really, its an easy ground to find, ( 2 or 3 miles off Junction 13 of the A14 heading towards Northampton) and plenty of parking although like Sixfields it can take a while to get away from the ground. OK view from the away end and food and drink thats about average. for a football ground (ie crap!) If you want a drink before the game probably better off stopping at one of the towns near the ground (Rushden or Wellingborough).
Big Bill (Millwall) at 13:25:18 Wednesday July 24 2002
Any helpful hints on visiting Rushden? We have them in the worthy cup draw.
Bexxy at 13:20:9 Wednesday July 24 2002
Of all the teams we have to get stuck with BORING Wigan.... One of these days we'll get a nice draw...like Coventry!!
cup draw at 13:17:17 Wednesday July 24 2002
Cobblers v Wigan & Diamonds v Millwall !! the police will move one of those games then
AMG at 12:36:24 Wednesday July 24 2002
There is also going to be an update on new signings and injured players by Kevan Broadhurst at 1.00pm today.
Tim Cannell at 12:3:11 Wednesday July 24 2002
EGM called for Monaday 19th August 9:30am re GDS takeover
foofoo the bear at 11:57:46 Wednesday July 24 2002
BIG STATEMENT AT NOON ON OFFICIAL SITE(season tickets r ready!!!!!!)
Anon at 11:48:57 Wednesday July 24 2002
Message on rivals site saying Hargreaves has been told to sling his hook............article in the Chron saying Broads is still discussing terms with Hargreaves??
Richard at 11:45:21 Wednesday July 24 2002
i can't wait, whats the announcement, any rumour?
AMG at 10:54:38 Wednesday July 24 2002
Can some one tell me which company does Tom Barry own?
opposites attract at 10:32:19 Wednesday July 24 2002
having listened to ntfc@2view defy every warning re GDS on this site over the last few weeks I log on to find him trashing and talking down the Tom Barry bid? If his judgement is still as warped as ever then this must mean the Tom Barry bid might just be a good thing, all we need now is for Ted to join in the abuse and we will know for sure that we are on to a winner
Anon at 9:48:42 Wednesday July 24 2002
Help. Its a joke you twat
Help!! at 9:42:32 Wednesday July 24 2002
All the negative Bankers appear when we lose (in a non meaning game), how can that twat call him/herself #1 Cobbler, dont need you!!
No1 Cobbler at 9:6:26 Wednesday July 24 2002
Back to the old traditional Cobblers - losing
Anon at 23:54:9 Tuesday July 23 2002
Can rayn publish a picutre of Tom Barry so that we can conduct the first part of due diligence by establshing this is a real living person? The objectives on the Trust site sound as flimsy as Fashanu and GDS, for example what the hell has making a substantial donation to a local charity got to do with running a football club?
Hotel Ender at 23:44:4 Tuesday July 23 2002
anon - yes we lost 1-0
Anon at 23:29:4 Tuesday July 23 2002
DID WE PLAY TONIGHT??????????????????????????
Hotel Ender at 23:17:48 Tuesday July 23 2002
Ted - and then what? go and watch R& D? or MK Dons? I would rather watch NTFC in the UCL than there be no NTFC at all. And I have seen us in the old First Division, saw us beat Leeds, draw with Arsenal. By your reckoning - the day we got relegated from those heady heights was the day I should have given up? As usual you talk bollocks
Anon at 22:19:34 Tuesday July 23 2002
Think big and you will be big!
Ted at 22:14:40 Tuesday July 23 2002
Well done Rodders! absolutely agree 100%.If the choice was to have one chance of glory but if that failed then it was the end of the club , I`d still take it.
Hunky Dory at 22:14:2 Tuesday July 23 2002
It's STONhill as in gone, Barry STONhill
NTFC@2view at 21:28:55 Tuesday July 23 2002
STONHILL. STON, not STONE.
You can talk all you like, but at 21:28:27 Tuesday July 23 2002
Mines not a dream not after 2 Wembleys who would have ever dreamt that standing on the Duckboards or the Spion Kop, I only ever want the Cobblers in the Premiership, i dont care if anyone thinks that they dont deserve to be there, or if it is based on dodgy money, i want them to win every game, even if it was Atkins style, or even if we were the dirtiest team in the league, I dont care about who is on the board, who owns the club, I dont particularly care who plays for us - I just want the COBBLERS to be the BEST!!!
you decide at 21:27:56 Tuesday July 23 2002
GDS OR STONEHILL
Rodders at 21:20:20 Tuesday July 23 2002
I absolutely agree. If you can't dream - semi-realistically - about playing at a higher level, then you might as well give up. Basic survival is simply not enough.
NTFC@2view at 21:5:12 Tuesday July 23 2002
We wouldn't be at Old Trafford because we're from Northampton, but I have said before on here, I remember coming out of Highbury knowing we'd outplayed them on their own ground. I am absolutely certain it's unhealthy just to aspire to remaining alive, playing Hartlepool on a February Tuesday - I've seen better and want to again. It's as simple as that to me.
razhku^ the basher at 21:3:30 Tuesday July 23 2002
as mentioned on other postings,if money is the answer,why not go the root of the option and not confuse the issue with first issue ,second issue,as this could possibly this can and normally does cause confusion,why not put the agenda on the table and sit down to outline the problemsTry not to cry over spilt milk,lets try it your way and if it should fail lets get back to basics.This will unscramble any options that have not been ortimised before.this is a solution that has in the past worked(see attached details).If no other solution is found i suggest this is the way forward.
ANON at 20:48:39 Tuesday July 23 2002
I think thats the trust big idea let the club go to the wall & re-start it from scratch in the UCL so they can say look we saved the club again!
I was thinking part 2 at 20:16:8 Tuesday July 23 2002
resurrected a club which was bankrupt and out of the league and is now within striking distance of league status again, to see the strength of feeling of the true football supporter. Wimbledon supporters have started again after the directors of their team have decided to move the club to Milton Keynes. I’m prepared to be contradicted but I feel that Cobblers supporters would happy if enough money came into the club to maintain the status quo. We would all like success and promotion and big signings but will be content if the club just carries on as it is now, preferably with sound finances. What if the money doesn’t appear and the worst does happen? We can always do an Aldershot and start again.
I was thinking.... at 20:11:27 Tuesday July 23 2002
The recent takeover speculation has made me think about why I support my team and what I really want from them. Is it not true that what football fans want, particularly those who support second and third division sides, is simply to be able to watch their teams play every week season after season? The fact that most of these clubs are never going to win the championship or even reach the dizzy heights of the first division is irrelevant. As supporters who have a life long commitment and in many cases, a dedication which spans generations, all we want to do is watch our team play. We all dream of a millionaire benefactor taking us to league and cup glory, playing in the Champion’s League and multi-million pound signings but if that was what we really wanted, then wouldn’t we all be eating prawn sandwiches at Old Trafford? We have followed our team through promotion, relegation, re-election and almost obliteration. We only have to look to Aldershot, whose supporters have ......
Anon at 15:53:41 Tuesday July 23 2002
Would have been nice to have known about the bid....Goes to show thyat the money up front couldn`t have been good
NTFC@2view at 15:46:31 Tuesday July 23 2002
Pretty uninspiring don't you think? The only bit that excites me is the 'new significant employment opportunities'. I shall at once apply for a job as a centre-forward. Charity? Come on!
Richard at 15:46:6 Tuesday July 23 2002
What is all this about?
Anon at 15:7:50 Tuesday July 23 2002
Offer new significant employment opportunities. To grow the club’s operating income so NTFC can operate as a minimum on par with big city Division One clubs, whilst being able to act as a self-funding business without direct and indirect subsidy – as opposed to the current situation of continuous losses.Offering the business acumen and financial management skills of MEM to achieve the financial goals by developing a new business model for NTFC The plan centres around a short term recovery plan, with a five year strategic plan.Offer as substantial donation to a local Northampton Charity Work in partnership with the clubs current stakeholders e.g. Northampton Borough Council, existing shareholders, and the local community.Retain loyalty and commitment of current staff and directors Work with the Council to ensure that the Sixfields Complex is managed and used to the best interests of Northampton Town Football Club.
Anon at 15:4:12 Tuesday July 23 2002
· Secure professional football at NTFC.
Anon at 15:3:53 Tuesday July 23 2002
· MEM was founded by Tom Barry a lifelong Cobblers fan to bring success to Northampton Town Football Club, by bringing together specialists in transforming businesses and execution of business plans. The MEM Bid acknowledges that NTFC despite recent success on the field the club has constantly struggled financially.
Hi I`m Tom Barry at 15:2:55 Tuesday July 23 2002
SUMMARY OF MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT MANAGEMENT (MEM) BID
BIG JIM at 14:53:9 Tuesday July 23 2002
That should read as PONCE and is the deal defo dead?
BIG JIM at 14:52:9 Tuesday July 23 2002
I along with all of you want to have a bit of stability in the club as it has been unstabnle for the last 13/14 yrs it`s so unsettling not knowing where the club stands financially. Remember when we beat Shrewsbury, May 8th 1993 and Stonhill and the other poince in the suit said "This will never happen again" . Reffering to the money situation and nearly going out of the football league etc. Stonhill has gone right down in my estimations throughout this whole saga. He has every right to moan about losing money etc. You don`t acquire (I say not buy) a football club and make a shit load of money(not in the lower leagues anyway. Is it a case of he has no extra cash to invest or didn`t want to ? We will all have to look carefully at the way the next candidates (if and when) decides to put themselves to see if the deal is in the interests of the club or for him.
I Love the Cobblers but at 14:39:38 Tuesday July 23 2002
And I have £1m+ (peanuts today - and no cadging if you spot me in the West Stand!!!) but supporters are the worst people to get involved with football clubs, their heart rules their heads, Big Jim I would keep your sanity and follow the soap opera Cobblersdale or is it Cobbleration street or Cobb Enders!!!
NTFC@2view at 14:6:37 Tuesday July 23 2002
Steve - that's a lot better than your dad remembering Trollope playing against us in the late 60s!
BIG JIM at 13:9:15 Tuesday July 23 2002
When is Marcus Benson gonna get a run out in the first team?
BIG JIM at 13:2:4 Tuesday July 23 2002
Fashanu was a waste of space, he has not reared his ugly head to explain his role in the never to happen take over. About time the twat did though. Why do we at this club attract the dickheads of this world? So has GDS definitely pulled out of the deal? Do we have maybe somebody else? A local man? Most importantly a supporter of the Cobblers and football. If I had a few million I know where I`d put it !!!!
BIG JIM at 12:57:13 Tuesday July 23 2002
The way you have to look at it is that there are other clubs out there with far more problems than us and it WILLL all work out in the end. It did last time and it will again. If it all goes wrong (which I doubt) and we go out of the football league to say........the Rymans, I would still be there following my beloved COBBLERS.
AMKC at 11:40:34 Tuesday July 23 2002
Perhaps we'll be so successful this season we'll all die LAVIN.
Nosey Parker at 8:50:13 Tuesday July 23 2002
No thats Tom Thumb!!
Steve at 0:55:49 Tuesday July 23 2002
Showing me age - I remember Trollope's Dad playing at left back for Swindon against us in the late 60's.
Anon at 0:3:11 Tuesday July 23 2002
is the Tom Barry the little bloke who is sometimes on the door of the exectuive lounge? if not, as someone asked earlier, where did he make his money?
Anon at 0:1:23 Tuesday July 23 2002
is Tom Barry,
Great News at 23:46:17 Monday July 22 2002
great news about Trollope and after the last few days weeks months etc we deserve it, but without wanting to bring people down from the ceiling, when we wake up from the hangover we will still be in the shit, I just hope whoever replaces the wast of space GDS, at least will speak to us with a little more credibility and just make sure we can keep the players we have been signing rather than build up false hopes and false dawns.
fuck rio at 23:6:15 Monday July 22 2002
wanker
nsb at 22:54:51 Monday July 22 2002
says even, i cant spell dont laugh....................
NSB at 22:53:46 Monday July 22 2002
i wonder when trollope sais that hes happy to be joining a "progressive" club, he means a club with a rich italian owner?
nsb at 22:52:18 Monday July 22 2002
is everyone stoned??? dunc(an) your heads in some water and sober up! oh shit im at it now!
Smithy at 22:39:6 Monday July 22 2002
I thought we were a PAUL club. where we getting all this money for contracts from? take your pick which paul, theres about 15 now
Ted at 22:35:37 Monday July 22 2002
I`ve HODDER nuf now good night!
Anon at 22:32:10 Monday July 22 2002
Wilsher all shut up now!
Ted at 22:26:13 Monday July 22 2002
Smithy ,you`ve got the gift of the GABBIADINI
Smithy at 22:15:11 Monday July 22 2002
Broadhurst gets my MARC Of approval when it comes to signing up new players. that the best you could do with gabbiadini
RUBBER DUCK at 22:5:54 Monday July 22 2002
There is plenty of trollope in town on a fri or sat nite & they dont cost much
A Childs View at 21:32:5 Monday July 22 2002
Too obvious - here's HOPE...ing for a good season!!
A Childs View at 21:31:10 Monday July 22 2002
All we need now is second keeper and everyone will be ABBEY!!! Aaaahhhh - I can't stop!
A Childs View at 21:29:23 Monday July 22 2002
...LAVIN watch the team do well .... can't spell. Can anyone do one with Gabbiadini?
A Childs View at 21:28:17 Monday July 22 2002
With our squad there's no reason why we can't MARSH on up the division, if we do, you can be the fans will be LAVIN the team do well!! Enough now!!!
A Childs View at 21:26:18 Monday July 22 2002
Seriously, Trollope does sound a good acquisition - I hope Sammo's not pissed about missing out on the captaincy? Kevan does seem to be making a 25% restricted wage budget stretch - was Willo a shit businessman? That said, we've not seem any of these play yet! Barnard would just about complete the midfield, then we need another centre half and a keeper - that'll do. If you can weave your contractual magic Kev, try and clutch Rio from the jaws of Man U, also, Richard Wright would rather play for the Cobbs than Everton - all you need to do is get him to agree to sign for £200 a week - should be easy!
A Childs View at 21:22:10 Monday July 22 2002
I don't want to HARPER on about it, but Trollpe seems a good signing!
NTFC@2view at 21:14:4 Monday July 22 2002
I don't think most people on here are into good news.
Ted at 21:3:16 Monday July 22 2002
Thats the lowest of the LOWE
Anon at 20:58:57 Monday July 22 2002
he gets his strikers STAMP of approval
Ted at 20:52:8 Monday July 22 2002
Please reFrain from making bad jokes.
Super joke at 20:38:37 Monday July 22 2002
our new signings missus is a RIGHT OLD TROLLOPE
Ted at 20:29:19 Monday July 22 2002
Typical ! Best news we`ve had all summer with trollope signing and no comments for over 3 hours.
Daily Mirror at 17:19:50 Monday July 22 2002
Looks like our local MP is rebelling again!! not only giving out his e-mail address but submitting to chat boards. Mind you can't see him needed to be protected from anybody can you?. I think I will send him an e-mail to add to his 500
George Bucks No1 Cobbler at 17:10:58 Monday July 22 2002
Just to add about the gds money situation. He will get the money, hes just waiting for those six lucky numbers to come up on a saturday night.
Today's Daily Mirror at 16:49:44 Monday July 22 2002
NO DOTCOMMONS - MPs plead for block on emails as voters' messages flood in. MPs want to be protected from voters' emails because they can't cope with the number they get. Some arebeing contacted hourly by constituents while others have complained of getting up to 500 a day, a report says. Now they have called for measures to stop people contacting them on the net.
Me85 at 16:38:49 Monday July 22 2002
Hopefully if we can sign Hargreaves, Barnard (maybe Coates), another solid central defender and a keeper we should have a fairly decent side for this season. Let's just hope we show the form from the end of last season, and maybe we can suprise a few people! - (well we can hope!)
NTFC@2view at 16:36:55 Monday July 22 2002
Sorry, the rest of my post didn't come through. It should have read - '...to the knackers yard for glue.'
Anon at 16:35:56 Monday July 22 2002
With both Frain and Lavin injured and looking very injury prone I can't see any other club signing them yet alone paying a transfer fee
B.J.M at 16:18:11 Monday July 22 2002
I'm alright Big Jim, how are you? Still in Wales? Who's having a laugh that we can get a fee for Frain?
Richard at 16:13:11 Monday July 22 2002
So many question, who will pay for Frain? Will they be replaced, I can see Barnard replacing Frain, and we also have Carruthers, Hope and Spedding down the left, but who will play right back, we have Marsh and Burgess I suppose, but will this free up some more of the budget for new players? Kevan is going a great job and those two must be on abot 3k between them so we can replace them with some quality.
NTFC@2view at 16:5:3 Monday July 22 2002
I've heard - and don't quote me - that Frainy and Lavin will be sold
Richard at 15:59:46 Monday July 22 2002
Great work what a good signing, at last we have some creativity in midfield, less pressure on Jamie and more for the opposition to think about. What a good signing. I still think that from the players we have lost, and the ones we have signed I think we have about 4-6k per week to spend to have the same wage budget as last year, and already our team is looking better, just hope Lavin comes back quickly. Will we get Barnard, Coates and Hargreaves, plus 1GK, or will that be too much money??????????
NTFC@2view at 15:28:1 Monday July 22 2002
Maybe - just maybe - Barnard and Trollope are better than Hargreaves and Hunt?
Anon at 15:19:50 Monday July 22 2002
How can we afford to pay the wages of a couple players like Barnard and Trollope but not keep Hargreaves Hunt and Welch?
Anon at 15:16:49 Monday July 22 2002
A midfield of four Pauls.......... McGregor, Rickers, Harsley and Trollope.
Investigator at 15:16:20 Monday July 22 2002
Come on then Nosey parker - who told you it was Trollope?
NTFC@2view at 15:13:16 Monday July 22 2002
You are Rodney.
Anon at 15:8:7 Monday July 22 2002
who is it?
Rodney at 15:5:40 Monday July 22 2002
I hope that Trollope will be an inspirational captain. We need one. Who's paying his wages?!
No1 Cobbler at 15:0:27 Monday July 22 2002
I see the official site is going slow as everyone is trying to access it to find out who the mystery signing is
marco at 15:0:17 Monday July 22 2002
the press association preview to the season has this sensational prediction for the cobblers: "Prediction: Avoided relegation by the relatively comfortable margin of five points last season, but the loss of the influential Paul Dempsey and Richard Lopes, as well as Sam Parkin's return to Chelsea following his loan spell, leaves Northampton staring at another relegation battle."
marco at 14:58:13 Monday July 22 2002
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Anon at 14:57:48 Monday July 22 2002
Its Steven Gerrard from Liverpool (premiership) and he last played for England in March
marco at 14:47:18 Monday July 22 2002
... and trollope played in Premiership for Derby, evans hasn't of course
marco at 14:44:21 Monday July 22 2002
following the clues in the Chron - he last played international in March then Paul Trollope fits the bill, otherwise possibly Paul Evans who left Brentford at end of season?
Rodders at 14:40:3 Monday July 22 2002
I can't believe that it is Barnard, otherwise there would be no mystery, seeing as played for us on Saturday. I thought we were financially 'embarrassed' so how are we signing someone who merits a live broadcast on the official website? More spin doctoring, or hype? We will soon find out!
Anon at 14:35:47 Monday July 22 2002
Barnard £5K/ week..
Anon at 14:35:46 Monday July 22 2002
Barnard £5K/ week..
Anon at 14:34:33 Monday July 22 2002
...but his wage demands appeared to scupper any move
Anon at 14:33:41 Monday July 22 2002
From the Barnsley web site :"Ex-Red DARREN BARNARD is poised to seal a deal with a new club in the next ten days after leaving Oakwell at the end of last season."
Anon at 14:31:52 Monday July 22 2002
Trollope fits the description (ended last season at Coventry)
Anon at 14:25:42 Monday July 22 2002
jorgenson? not welsh I know but he's played in the danish pastry prem. the nearest we've come to an interntanal is effin' elda, nuff said!!
Anon at 14:25:16 Monday July 22 2002
Its David Ginola - premiership experience and international experience
NTCFC@2view at 14:20:55 Monday July 22 2002
The winner and new champion of whinge? Watch this space for the announcement! A clue? E......
Anon at 14:20:6 Monday July 22 2002
If the GDS deal is all but off and we're 5-10 days from a financial ruin ( as per GH radio interview ) wheres the money come from to attract a player like Darren Barnard ?
HARGREAVES at 14:16:36 Monday July 22 2002
Guess thats cheerio then, which way is Oxford again?
HARGREAVES at 14:16:32 Monday July 22 2002
Guess thats cheerio then, which way is Oxford again?
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 14:15:42 Monday July 22 2002
Not one to write off our chances me, but one Welsh midfielder though a good signing, will not make us into a good side....
AMG at 14:15:36 Monday July 22 2002
When you say ex-prem experience, is that English or Scottish?
oh no it isn't at 14:8:33 Monday July 22 2002
its barnard.....just seen him coming out of the sixfields offices after i had a bite to eat at Bk!!
Dickey Groyn at 14:7:14 Monday July 22 2002
Lee Dino Grima of Valetta FC will be the closest we get to signing a current international
Nosey Parker at 14:0:44 Monday July 22 2002
I have just seen one of the squad and the new player is.................Trollop from Fulham the "player" says he signed this morning ( if this is a lie I will tell you who told me!!)
mangoman at 13:56:32 Monday July 22 2002
anyone notice dennis wise has been given a free transfer....on the same day the club is about to announce their new ex-prem midfielder?
Investigator at 13:44:11 Monday July 22 2002
So who does everyone think the midfielder is that we will be signing today? Apparently he will sign today, he has prem experience and won his latsest cap for his country in March! Any ideas.................?
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 13:38:10 Monday July 22 2002
...... Be Darren Barnard?????
EASTCOTEOBBLER at 13:37:14 Monday July 22 2002
Could this "quality midfield player" that took the "quality" corner at Hinckley, but stubbed his "quality" left foot on the ground and fell on his "quality" *rse??
A Childs View at 13:26:26 Monday July 22 2002
Good post 9224 - it is truly sick when clubs are going to the wall and £30m exchanges hands for one player at the other end of the scale. Football has gone mad - I only hope the bubble bursts very soon. £30million - can you image what that would do for the the 72 nationwide clubs? Financial security for the a few years!! The lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum.
NTFC@2view at 13:9:17 Monday July 22 2002
Dennis Wise and Matt Elliott on free transfers? No need to move house?
NTFC@2view at 13:7:21 Monday July 22 2002
Do you know something, or just hoping about Darren Barnard?
Anon at 12:36:51 Monday July 22 2002
Marco reincarnated!
Windy at 12:34:22 Monday July 22 2002
I hit return to end a paragraph by habit below. I wanted to end by saying I hope he does alright for you, new players always give it a good go to start with, but watch for the old "I'm too good for this" Daz. Good luck Dudes, except against us of course.
Windy (Barnsley) at 12:30:38 Monday July 22 2002
Re. Darren Barnard. He's a quality player alright. One of the best we've had up here in recent years and his set pieces are superb. Unfortunately our Darren seems to think he's above it all and the concensus as to why he was allowed to go is that he is, pretty much, responsible for the apathy that has dogged our squad out of the first division. When your, supposedly, senior, quality players don't give a rat's ass whether you win or not it kind of gets to the rest.
AMG at 12:9:58 Monday July 22 2002
Which company does Tom Barry own?
BIG JIM at 11:57:42 Monday July 22 2002
BJM How you doin` (in a Joey off friends accent)
NTFC@2view at 11:38:43 Monday July 22 2002
About Abbey. Ask the Chesterfield fans. Ask the Luton fans. If Billy Stewart's number 2 was brought in at great expense to replace him, can he be all that good?
NTFC@2view at 11:36:20 Monday July 22 2002
What a child!! at 11:12:19 Monday July 22 2002: Doh!
NTFC@2view at 11:35:55 Monday July 22 2002
B.J.M. OK, that's fine. You don't have any problem with 'blood money', I don't have a problem with it either. I made a mistake and thought you were one of those that had posted blah blah blah a while ago. I apologize.
No1 Cobbler at 11:33:22 Monday July 22 2002
Rodders I bet it is Weaver in disguise hence the name anon
B.J.M at 11:27:37 Monday July 22 2002
What's this unfinished business with Ray and myself that you refer to NTFC@2view? Handbags at ten paces? I haven't replied further because I have already said that I disagree with your 'car' analogy. I suspect that the 'hyprocrites' who continue to support GdS' funded team en route to the Premier (isn't that the dream we're being sold?) will still be around when GdS has long been gone . He's already said that he doesn't intend to stick around for long, he just hopes to make a quick buck (and buying a football club and making a quick buck doesn't go hand in hand by any stretch of the imagination, but apparently his 'gamble' with Norwich shares paid off so maybe he's addicted).
Rodders at 11:17:1 Monday July 22 2002
Anon obviously wasn't at Luton two years ago when Abbey made a string of fine saves and was named man of the match. If you can't get facts right about players then try shutting up. For all you know the guy might read your hurtful, UNTRUE comments. How come you're such an expert on Weaver anyway?
What a child!! at 11:12:19 Monday July 22 2002
"I wouldnt want to meet you to and you cant spell" ; NTFC@2view, oooooh how terrible.... grow up!
Anon at 11:4:55 Monday July 22 2002
Nathan Abbey is crap and he was awful at Luton when we beat them 2-0 a couple of seasons ago. Luke Weaver would be a much better bet.
NTFC@2view at 11:1:40 Monday July 22 2002
Next Question at 20:40:15 Sunday July 21 2002: Good morning Next. I think that the difference between us next season will be this. IF he takes over and IF he puts money in and IF we do well, I'll be chuffed as hell at the games and thinking about it later I'll have a warm glow. You'll be chuffed as hell at the games, but when you go home and think about it you'll say to yourself, "But it was done on blood money" and you'll get a big downer.
NTFC@2view at 10:51:14 Monday July 22 2002
I wouldn't want to meet you either. You can't even spell wanker!
Who would want to meet with NTFC@2view at 10:9:7 Monday July 22 2002
he is a right w.n.k..r, just read his inane postings.... and as for the idiot below going on about Man U and 30 million what planet is he on!!!
More of the Same at 9:28:54 Monday July 22 2002
9224 we may get answers on Rays site but the official just goes from bad to worse, on Saturday they told us "wait for news of a major signing (international) on Mon, news to be posted on the official site" and this morning what do we get? "We may have announcement to make at some point this week however it cannot be guranteed at this point in time, either one way or another." usual bollocks, and they wonder why they get a bad press?
young_cobbler at 23:22:32 Sunday July 21 2002
What do people on here think of Nathan Abbey ? I know lots of people have said he's crap to me,but I still remember him producing an amazing performance when we played at Luton a couple of seasons ago.
9224 at 23:3:26 Sunday July 21 2002
Back to football, is anyone else slightly pissed off that in a summer when we've had to release pretty much our entire squad, Manchester United PLC is preparing to spend £30,000,000 on ONE player? You could split that fee seventy-two ways, give it to the Nationwide clubs, employ nearly 150 of those redundant footballers for two years (based on an average wage of £2,000 p/w), and bolster some depleted squads.
9224 at 22:56:31 Sunday July 21 2002
And no, my 'Labour' comment doesn't mean I'm a Tory, not that there's actually any ideology anymore anyway, just two big parties (and a smaller one) in a popularity contest.
9224 at 22:53:14 Sunday July 21 2002
Thanks for your answers TCMP - you seem to be a dying breed, a labour MP who gives a straight answer (in fact, sod party politics, an MP who gives a straight answer) - it is appreciated.
Cobblers Big Brother at 22:38:37 Sunday July 21 2002
Why don't we lock all the board Stonhill, Hancock, Randell,Smith and Tony Clarke i Sixfields together with GDS, Fash Tom Barry and the Italian Consortium and then televise how they all get on and get them to nominate each other for eviction? We could televise it and the last one left will win £1m and will become the new owner but have to spend the money on the cobblers. I reckon its a winner.
NTFC@2view at 21:26:13 Sunday July 21 2002
Even one of President Tone's boys wouldn't want you around Baroness.
Maggie at 20:59:21 Sunday July 21 2002
So NTFC@2view are you going to take up TCMP's offer of meeting up for a drink? If so can I be your agent, the tickets will sell like mad!
Anon at 20:53:17 Sunday July 21 2002
well as long as it wasnt serbian or nigerian eh?
TCMP at 20:47:2 Sunday July 21 2002
Oh I forgot, Stalker it was a CUBA top, yellow and green maybe, but you were close.
TCMP at 20:43:4 Sunday July 21 2002
... the open forum and through the ballot (which I think closes tommorrow, although the result when known may be of academic use only) and I firmly believe in the long term, away from the passion and heated debate, will be seen as the correct policy. Razhku^the basher, to answer of the basis in your moment in a timewarp would not necessarly throw much more light on your journey to the centre of the connundrum. my friend
Next Question at 20:40:15 Sunday July 21 2002
NTFC@2view - No I don't. We, the fans, support our club forever. Owners, players, directors are just passing through. So I do not see it as hypocritical just tragic!
TCMP at 20:33:52 Sunday July 21 2002
Stalker, I bought my daughter a Kareoke machine as a birthday present to replace the one she had which went wonky, (nothing to do with my singing I promise) ntfc@2view please dont feel patronised, I mean it when I say I bear no grudges to anyone and dispite our different outlook I would enjoy an exchange of minds and ideas and ideas. anon Fash never dissapears for long, love him or loathe him, what you always know is that he will always resurface and is never long out of the limelight. Of course we must remember that Fash has never said he would buy the club but was always acting on behalf of Chief Sony Odogwu. Ted, MEM contacted the Trust before the last open forum and the timeline of events as listed on www.ntfctrust.co.uk is ther to answer the very question you pose. I am sure if the Trust had of shouted louder about other bids etc at the time we would have been dismissed as just anti GDS and looking to spoil his bid, we did not we allowed members the chance to have a say through...
razhku^ the basher at 19:54:7 Sunday July 21 2002
The trust is trusted by a few too many with the outcome of a meeting when u consider this it all makes sense,to try this over the next few months may have a unseen side effect.So lets have a controlled informed view of the situation and you will see that it all make sense.Follow your instinct and the way forward is not as shallow as u may try it to be.Which is correct is a good question but neither seem to be outright contenders for the first pass the post situation.This is a sloution if you look carefully.
Ted at 19:45:26 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP Going back to the MEM bid.Would it not have been better to go public with his bid and therefore gather support. I am sure that the supporters and indeed the town would be more united in their support for a takeover which involved a life-long Cobblers fan?I just find it strange that only now the fans are being told about the bid,and that the Trust Website has now decided to publish a summary(albeit vague ) ,when it could have done so earlier.
Anon at 19:34:55 Sunday July 21 2002
does anybody know the reasons for fashanus dissapearance
NTFC@2view at 19:34:37 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP, you are right in a narrow sense, but I posted a criticism of your reply which I expected further comment on from you. Your analogy would more truthful if you said, "The car I used to get a lift in has been sold to someone else, but I still expect a ride from the new owner." No matter. And as for the other 2 - they are grown ups and should speak for themselves. I don't think they need you to answer for them. I am amused that you feel I could be light entertainment for you. Or is the word patronised?
TCMP stalker at 19:29:13 Sunday July 21 2002
What did you buy from Argos this morning? And wearing a Brazil tracky top too!!! ( makes a change from GDS chatter i suppose )
RUBBER DUCK at 19:18:48 Sunday July 21 2002
Thanx tone, for the answers. I don't always agree with you, but belive its better when you come on cc1 than just talking on cc2 with the trust execs
anon at 19:5:12 Sunday July 21 2002
kinkladze is georgian, lets get kinky
TCMP at 19:1:18 Sunday July 21 2002
ntfc@2view you have not asked me a question since 12:49 lunchtime and you got an answer to that one? and given the general tone of your posts I would think Ray and BJM have decided the conversation was pretty one way anyway. You are a strange fish? Any chance of us meeting up for a pint I could do with the light entertainment.
TCMP at 18:56:15 Sunday July 21 2002
Rubber Duck, yes I feel there will be one or two more signings this week, perhaps a contract player and a couple of long term loans or one or two of the trialist given a chance to prove themselves, this is only my view of course, Kevan has done a good enough job so far of making his money go a long way, and I certainly dont want to interfere by suggesting we sign Scottish or Georgian international or anything like it, as that would be pretty unhelpful unless the finances were available, dont you agree? The Trust is considering an Open Forum on the 8th of August to discuss the state of play do people feel this would be useful? I will log off in 5 mins and then check back in for one final round a little later cheers Tony
NTFC@2view at 18:54:0 Sunday July 21 2002
I consider TCMP has fudged answering my question and that Ray and B.J.M. haven't really finished our 'conversations. Typical. I'm off into the garden for a read and a glass of wine, so I will have to reply to you all later.
NTFC@2view at 18:49:26 Sunday July 21 2002
What Bastard? at 18:16:38 Sunday July 21 2002 You'd be a satirist if you had anywhere near half a brain.
RUBBER DUCK at 18:49:24 Sunday July 21 2002
Tone, is their likly to be any signings this week & if the embargo is back on when the season starts would it not be wise to try & sign 2 or 3 more players than previously budgeted for?
NTFC@2view at 18:46:33 Sunday July 21 2002
What Bastard? at 18:16:38 Sunday July 21 2002. Learn to read.
TCMP at 18:43:59 Sunday July 21 2002
Rubber Duck, Its tempting!! but I think unlikely, of course more than one season packages including gold lounge etc deals are available. Anon I think the club is announcing the details on when season tickets are ready etc this week.
RUBBER DUCK at 18:40:52 Sunday July 21 2002
Cheers tone, why dont the club start selling next seasons, season ticket now & you can only pick up this seasons ticket when you buy one joke
TCMP at 18:35:46 Sunday July 21 2002
Smithy, yes the transfer embargo will be back once the season is underway, we still owe the PFA but we are continuing to make payments so we are ever hopeful. Rubber Duck ,the current board have made no secret of the fact that we need to bring fresh money in as its not possible for them to maintain the situation in the long term. The fact that they have done so, so far, is a credit to them. They just need some additional help or for someone with money to invest to take over the mantle from them. If the GDS bid does fall and there is nothing else on the table then I feel we will have no other choice than to go out to public subscription. And I hope the Trust and all other supporters groups and individuals engage in that effort which may be needed to once more save the club.
Anon at 18:32:30 Sunday July 21 2002
who knows when the season tickets are ready for collection?
TCMP at 18:28:6 Sunday July 21 2002
Rubber Duck, it would be wrong of me to go into too much detail re finances as this could be counter productive, also we have not had a board meeting for some time so I do not have the up to date figures. If it helps I will say that the club, unlike some others has continued to operate and has always paid the wages every month to date. The close season with no income over and above that for season tickets (which was helpful in paying the last 2 months wages) is the hardest period of the year for us Hopefully sales of the new away shirt will be high and help bolster the coffers a little and the start of the season proper, with gate recipts enhanced club shop income etc cannot come soon enough. But it is no secret that we need to continue the search for new money to help the clubs finances to recover. As I have said before the wage bill has been reduced, commercial income is on the up, so whilst the present situation is grim there is a little light at the end of a lon tunnel.
RUBBER DUCK at 18:26:54 Sunday July 21 2002
If the club is not sold during this season is its currant board of directors able to finance it, especilly if injuries continue?
Smithy at 18:18:3 Sunday July 21 2002
tcmp- will the transfer embargo be placed back on the club once the season kicks off again or has the loan been repaid?
What Bastard? at 18:16:38 Sunday July 21 2002
ntfc@2view you say "I dont want this bastards money" thats not what you have said before? can you confirm what who you are talking about and if its GDS and you say he is a bastard, can you tell us what proof or FACTS you have which make you so sure of your judgement, or are you just engaging in moral fudging?
RUBBER DUCK at 18:12:27 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP are the wages set to be paid at the end of this month or is the club to ask the PFA again?
TCMP at 18:2:29 Sunday July 21 2002
Sorry, Ted that was me, I just forgot to fill in the e-mail box.
TCMP at 18:1:21 Sunday July 21 2002
Ted, myself and Barry may hold a different view as to the status of Tom Barry's bid, but it would be wrong of me knowing what Barry has positively contributed to the club (and still does) to start sounding off about "not acting in the best interests" we simply agree to disagree thats all. The problem with anon comments on this board is that people find it too easy to enter into a slagging match and to abuse others without a right of reply you yourself have said some pretty unsavoury things about me in the past, but do not expect me to respond or to join in.
Ted at 17:50:26 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP Do I take it that by denying that another bid was received ,the Trust exec consider that Mr Stonehill is not acting in the best interests of NTFC?
TCMP at 17:47:3 Sunday July 21 2002
....against an agreed set of criteria, but to date I do not feel that that has happened. We should not knock directors for wanting to get back money they have loaned the club after all without the loans the club would have gone under and we should should build that into any assessment model along with matters such as: future investment policy - plans for the stadium - investment in youth - plans for raising new revenue - to name but a few.
TCMP at 17:41:15 Sunday July 21 2002
Ted, my view is that the Trust does not need to "save face" if anything we have been consistent throughout in ensuring supporters are given as much clear information as possible. As for the MEM bid, Tom Barry and his collegue informed the trust of their bid and in fairness to them and in line with our desire to be open we have published that info, for what its worth I have spoken to Tom Barry and was very clear about the need for any bidder to recognise that the club needs an immediate cash input and in addition that his first bid would need fleshing out a bit. The trust sec asked about the bid at the trust open forum and was told it was never recieved, the club this week said the same, our job is to tell the truth and say, well here it is. Considering the fact that the club have not responded to the initial bid MEM might not feel obliged to make another, although on a personal basis I hope they will. My consistent line is that any and all bids should be judged on their merits and....
Ted at 17:29:30 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP. Regarding the MEM bid .The NTST seem very keen on this so called bid,and of course it would be a great "face saver" for them if it were to come to fruition.This however should not hide the fact that what the club needs is hard cash.As you said earlier there has been a lot of talk but very little action regarding this from the interested parties.Therefore if Tom Barry`s bid really is a bid in monetary terms , why does he not now stump up with the cash and close the deal.As GDS said yesterday "He who gets to the girls house first gets the date"
NTFC@2view at 17:29:13 Sunday July 21 2002
Were you asking me Ray? That's not the point! It's what the others are saying: 'I don't want this bastards money - but I'll still continue to go if the money is accepted.'
Anon at 17:22:6 Sunday July 21 2002
Darren Barnard?-Yesssssssssssss!!!!!!
Anon at 17:21:40 Sunday July 21 2002
Nathan Abbey???-Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray at 17:18:51 Sunday July 21 2002
So - what you are actually saying is that you don't care where the money comes from as long as NTFC prosper?
NTFC@2view at 16:53:21 Sunday July 21 2002
B.J.M. This board has been filled(?) for weeks with stories about GdS, where it has been alleged that he has committed crimes of fraud, bank robbery, meeting with known terrorists, being the partner of genocidal maniacs etc etc. I have been asking (ad nauseam) for proof - and don't think I got it - and have been vilified for it. Mr Clarke has had to be more careful than others what he says because he is a public figure who could be sued, but even he is so 'horrified' that he will refuse to sit on a board with GdS' nominees. Yet watching the club, which MAY progress to undreamed of heights under GdS' stewardship, is OK. Cheering players that his money might buy, while decrying the way the money was obtained, is hypocrisy to me. But I'm a funny old chap and may see it all wrong. I hope that explanation has helped.
B.J.M at 16:41:22 Sunday July 21 2002
NTFC@2view, why do you talk about moral fudging when I believe your view is that there is no moral issue, or at least if there is it has nothing to do with football. I always seem to follow your arguments for about 75% of the way and then the rest doesn't seem to add up? Do you call people with differing religious to your own (if you have any) "moral fudgers"? At the end of the day it's just a difference of opinion, with or without the gloss you put upon it.
TCMP at 15:44:15 Sunday July 21 2002
logging off to play with the kids for an hour, back later TC
NTFC@2view at 15:39:52 Sunday July 21 2002
Nice try Tony, but I don't think yours works at all! It's not really the analogy I'm interested in anyway, but the moral 'fudging' that is going on.
that little sod at 15:27:28 Sunday July 21 2002
anyone lost any golf clubs......
TCMP at 15:27:1 Sunday July 21 2002
Ted, in my answer I didn't mean the trust at all !! we were put in our place right from the start and told we could not influence the sale and have not attempted to do so, let alone us putting pressure on the rest of the board. As for sponsors and other commercial bodies they will I am sure hold an opinion as to ther involvement if the club changed hands but in fairness to them it for them to disclose that not anyone else.
TCMP at 15:22:57 Sunday July 21 2002
cute analogy ntfc@2view however to set in into the present context, I would say it is my car that is being stolen and I would rather sit in the back seat hoping one day to get it back than simply watching it drive off into the sunset.
a liitle sod at 15:19:16 Sunday July 21 2002
nipping over the racehorse for a quick one,then back to the guys and gals for another quick one those were the days....
TCMP at 15:19:12 Sunday July 21 2002
not want to do. As for other potential purchasers, the club is always open to any other bid that may or may not come along. My only comment is that talk is cheap and the club are fed up to the back teeth of people waxing lyrical about their intentions without ever parting with the cash, so any new bidders would need to be very clear as to how they proceed. 9224 In thre absence of any deal Kevan has had to work within the limited and reduced budget we have set him, I think he has made some shrewd accusitions and the squad will I am sure increase a little next week. I believe the difference is that Kevan appreciates that in order to have a full squad, you need to pay less high saleried players and provide the depth with youth and up an coming trialists rather than household names. anon there is a sense of urgency at the club every day of the week, I do not think anyone wants anything to drag on but we are where we are.
NTFC@2view at 15:17:23 Sunday July 21 2002
I'm sure there must be a lot more to the MEM bid, but it is hardly well-served by it's summary.
Ted at 15:14:44 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP In my question Tony .I didn`t just mean the Trust trying to influence those that wish to sell.I meant also the sponsors and those with a commercial interest.
old boy at 15:14:11 Sunday July 21 2002
The Road To Morocco opened with a camel & belly dancer, not an elephant, i know i was there. BOW LEGGED HEN.
doctor watson at 15:10:45 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP........ you have lost the plot.
TCMP at 15:8:45 Sunday July 21 2002
...not sustain the wage bill needed for such an influx of talent. If its just about someone who has made their money and wants to put something back into the area as the Rev Page led us to believe, then why worry about the overdraft facility? why not just pay it off on day one. I am afraid the deal just doesn't stack up for me. Child's view, I am sorry but I am clear as to my intentions and do not go back on my word, I have written a letter of resignation which comes into force the day GDS takes control, however I have reiterated the right of the trust to be represented on the board as per the lease with the council and would remain on the trust exec to offer support to my successor. MK Cobbler I believe the club are right when they say the ball is in GDS's court and as I state below if he wanted to proceed I am sure he could find a way of doing so. Lawyers are not usually short of good legal advice. Ted, no their are no outside influences on any board members to do anything we do....
STRANGLER at 15:3:7 Sunday July 21 2002
Those were the days, i miss um.
TCMP at 15:0:9 Sunday July 21 2002
Its easy to lose yourself in all the confusion over what is or is not needed to be done regarding the gds takeover, but I take a more simplistic view of the whole saga, and put simply if GDS wanted to go ahead he has the money to enable the deal to happen, therefore all the talk of exciting new banking arrangements, and whether he banks with banks or they bank with him is in my view just a smokescreen. The trust is not selling its shares so we have not been party to all the detail between GDS and individuals who are selling their shares, but I take the view that if GDS wanted to cut the deal with hard cash he could do, that he hasn't leads me to think that the new exciting banking arrangements may have included additional borrowing, which brings me round to the question I asked right at the beginning which is why does GDS want the club in the first place? a business deal? if so its no good bringing in Scottish/Italian/Argentinian/Georgian internationals etc when the clubs income will..
CP at 14:33:5 Sunday July 21 2002
A brief outline of Tom barrys 'offer' for the club is on www.ntfctrust.co.uk. Assuming that the actual bid went into a bit more depth then I cant understand why Barry Stonhill dismissed it out of hand, it certainly seems more realistic than either Fash or Di Stefanos bids. Tom Barry is a lifelong Cobblers fan with reputable business acumen and must have a better understanding of the problems the club faces than Mr Di Steffano - so how can it be in the best interests of the club not to talk to Tom Barry?
Anon at 13:26:32 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP The club does not seem to be showing any great urgency in concluding this deal.How can this possibly be in the interests of NTFC ,with the new season almost upon us?
NTFC@2view at 12:49:8 Sunday July 21 2002
Thank you for your reply TCMP. I find your answer interesting, comparing Knighton, Sugar and GdS, considering EVERYTHING that was alleged about 'our' man. It seems that many people will find no difficulty, IF he takes over, watching the benefits of his 'blood money' (should there be any, Hotel Ender) whilst being able to say that 'their hands were clean'. It's a bit like happily riding around in the back seat of a stolen car because, in the back seat, you are not overtly helping the driver.
9224 at 12:37:32 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP - is there any chance of us having a decent sized squad? If GDS takes over, will the budget be increased? Do you not think it madness that we are in a situation where we have had to effectively release players like Welch, Hunt, Hunter, Hodge and Hargreaves? Is there any chance of these being offered improved deals if a takeover goes through?
Ted at 12:32:48 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP Is it true that the board are currently once again in talks with other prospective purchasers?
Ted at 12:29:10 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP Are there now outside influences putting pressure on the board members( who wish to sell their shares to GDS) inorder to dissuade them.
MK Cobbler at 12:27:39 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP - on the vexed subject of the takeover, in whose court is the ball? GDS to activate the bank guarantee or on GDS insistence the club to go through the motions of the EGM even though the latest advice is that one is not required? Is there anything else for either side to do before the sale takes place (heaven help us)?
Club Statement at 12:24:2 Sunday July 21 2002
The official site now just answers every question with the same non descript answer. why bother posting on it?
A Childs View at 12:16:37 Sunday July 21 2002
Darren Barnard is quality - I've watched him play for Bristol City loads of times and he would be an excellent acquisition. TCMP - could you be persuaded to stay on for 6 more months in order to keep a watchful eye on GDS, should the most protracted takeover in history ever be concluded? I've totally lost faith with things as they stand - are you able to do this? Coming on CC and speaking candidly about the goings on in the boardroom gives the fans entrance to the club at a level which we would otherwise lose. I've always liked Gary Hodder and thought his earlier communictions were spot on, however, blaming GDS for the public nature of the takeover whilst also committing the club to regular updates through the 7 days, more news soon approach seems a touch hypocritical!
Anon at 12:16:10 Sunday July 21 2002
TCMP Can you please clarify the exact position at this moment regarding the GDS takeover.We seem to getting such conflicting reports from both sides.We just want the truth!
Please God NO at 12:12:47 Sunday July 21 2002
Broadhursts comments on yesterdays game "We are seriously looking at Nathan Abbey" That must be a statement to chill every Cobblers fan to the bone.
TCMP at 12:0:36 Sunday July 21 2002
ntfc@2view, did Carlisle fans stop watching their team because of Knighton? did Spurs fans leave White Hart Lane because of Sugar? and did I stop attending games when Atkins and the club were using the club programme to launch personal attacks on me? The answer? no, Like the ravens in the Tower of London I am there for the duration, I think I answered this question before? but to repeat if GDS takes over I will leave the board, stay on as an officer of the club, and as always follow my team.
dOING THE hOTEL bOOTWALK at 9:19:35 Sunday July 21 2002
i support man u sorry no Arsenal this season cos they won the premier tv compo,
NTFC@2view at 7:56:54 Sunday July 21 2002
Fair post HE. I did, however, pose my question to TCMP and I'll wait for his reply before answering you. Your situation and his are different, however.
Hotel Ender at 7:32:54 Sunday July 21 2002
NTFC@2view - re your post at 17:5:33 - to plagiarise another statement - "you can take the boy out of Northampton Town FC, but you can't take NTFC out of the boy" - we are not glory seekers, if we were we'd be supporting Man Utd, Arsenal et al we are Cobblers fans. We'll be there following the Cobblers through thick and thin, I for one don't want GDS in charge at the Cobblers - and you seem to think once he takes over it will be days of wine and roses - if it is then fine I'll still be there, but I'll also still be there if he doesn't take over - unlike you as I understand from one of your earlier posts. If he takes over and we don't go to the "road to glory" where will you stand then?
dOING THE hOTEL bOOTWALK at 6:43:34 Sunday July 21 2002
Remember the Hotel Enders are the only true Cobblers fans, you youngsters and Sexfields only cumlaters have to serve your apprenticeship!!! or we will be doing the West Stand `Hotel' bootwalk on your soppy comments on here!!!!
Tyke at 19:29:48 Saturday July 20 2002
Barnard has the sweetest left foot in this division and is a class player WHEN he grafts!
NTFC@2view at 17:5:33 Saturday July 20 2002
Thank you Next. Next Question "Don't you think it would be hypocritical to be unable to work with such an evil man, but to cheer on the team, funded by him, on the road to glory?"
Next Question at 16:49:5 Saturday July 20 2002
You don't need to wait for TCMP NTFC@2view, TCMP has already stated his affection for the club and if and when he resigns he will join the rest of us home and away on the terraces. How do I know? I read what he says!
Anon at 15:55:53 Saturday July 20 2002
official message board now! who`s lying?
Rodders at 15:48:37 Saturday July 20 2002
Correction: Barnard aged 30! It's 0-0 at half-time and he is playing well, excellent crosser of the ball.
Rodders at 15:31:12 Saturday July 20 2002
The mystery international player we were meant to be signing is playing for the Cobblers this afternoon; he is Darren Bernard, ex Chelsea, Bristol City and Barnsley player. He has played many times for Wales. Aged 31. Left footed defender/midfielder.
foofoo the bear at 15:8:3 Saturday July 20 2002
i'll never stop watching the cobblers cos i support N.T.F.C, whoevers in charge
richie fan from nz at 14:9:19 Saturday July 20 2002
knock knees...... they were the days used to live in the dover castle and the tramcar then off to the guys and gals down abington street,
NTFC@2view at 14:2:59 Saturday July 20 2002
Me first, or I'll be accused of being scared again. "If GdS does take over, will you stop watching the Cobblers?"
Ray at 11:14:25 Saturday July 20 2002
TCMP will be answering quesions on here tomorrow.
ever bin ad? at 23:40:36 Friday July 19 2002
u are now.
Anon at 23:23:53 Friday July 19 2002
anyone any questions about my Bank Balance you have my e mail pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Sewer at 23:13:58 Friday July 19 2002
What do we really expect? We have a gang of incompetent wannabe's trying to make huge decisions or report on them on behalf of many thousands of honest, hard working fans who's only crime is to love a football club. We have Hodder who's done sweet FA of any great consequence since he joined the club and talks complete bullsh*t, contradicting himself every time he ventures forth with an update. We have Stonhill who lost the plot along with his money many moons ago. We have Wilsher who, if brains were TNT would not have enough to part his hair. And then we have Tedious GDS, who for a lawyer and supposed professional is lacking all interpersonal and communication skills and is as full of sh*t as a constipated bull in a spring meadow. How can we be disappointed when all this goes tits up? It had no chance from the beginning.
love in an orginal way at 23:2:20 Friday July 19 2002
westone basses those were the day's turvey's homebrew and skinheads never paying
razhku^ the basher at 22:59:47 Friday July 19 2002
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Anon at 22:54:31 Friday July 19 2002
shut up Adam
razhku^ the basher at 22:38:38 Friday July 19 2002
finbibn GDS arsyfassyshoteherd, Crewe gytrre juiiop thr earth summit of ASWWW was the asnmwer,not EGM it stand 4 evergetmoney,fogfoggof golr buddgt Broadhurst asdasd rge nyttt nhttty fookliuu ghtrre.
A Childs View at 22:31:23 Friday July 19 2002
Oh my God, this is beyond absurd now!! If GDS has got any money we'll think about whether an EGM is needed!!!!! Astonishing!!!!! Complete incompetence from everyone connected witht the deal process. Fans are treated like scum - give us your season ticket money but we're guaranteeing nothing back - I feel a twat for having coughed up months ago. All of the muppets involved in this farce are ruining the club, I'm beginning to think I couldn't care less!! I ask you, only now are checks being undertaken to ensure GDS has the funds, and still, the issue of the EGN - yes/no - rambles on. I'm pissed off with it all - the Barry Ward comment below rings so true - we were in the poo but sensible management reaped dividends, sadly we are at the mercy of imbeciles this time, I only hope the club I love can come through it to a time of more sensible ownership - GDS seems more trouble than he's worth.
B.J.M at 22:15:29 Friday July 19 2002
The fact that the club have hesitated on it makes me feel someone has something to hide, or fear.
B.J.M at 22:13:42 Friday July 19 2002
I'm not sure whether the intended resolutions would require to be passed by special resolution, which requires 75% of the vote I think rather than simple majority for ordinary resolutions.
B.J.M at 22:10:16 Friday July 19 2002
That's how I interpret it. They have to state what resolutions they intend to vote on.
sorry? at 22:8:26 Friday July 19 2002
If Tony Clarke was part of the Paddy, tank Uselak gang, then i unrevervably apologise for any anti TC comments I may have made on here. But then if he was a hammer furgetaboutit
sweet memories at 21:59:49 Friday July 19 2002
Pete Smith saying - you can collect your winning under D stand -mass response - at D end of D game!
NTFC@2view at 21:46:49 Friday July 19 2002
I'm a bit dim, BJM, but does the wording say, in essence, that you can't just call an EGM for 3 weeks hence IN CASE something happens, but that it must state a specific purpose?
AMKC at 21:39:12 Friday July 19 2002
Sorry about the spelling and repetition in that last post - the small box makes it difficult to check.
AMKC at 21:37:56 Friday July 19 2002
Thank you BJM for that insoght. I was wondering why the club had not called an AGM and seemed so inten ton avoiuding one if it could, even to the extent that they have been trying to decide for six weeks whether to have one, even though they could have called one straightaway and the questilon would have been academic three wekks ago. I had imagined tjat they were hoping for another bidder to come forward - I suspect the last sentence of your explanation is more like it.
johnny61 at 20:29:44 Friday July 19 2002
The more this drags on the less convinced I am. Surely the club would have checked out GDS' finances before now??? It seems that neither party know their arseholes from their earholes and the future of the club is bleak to say the least.
B.J.M at 20:11:29 Friday July 19 2002
Yes I realise I made a fundamental mistake in that last question. Also a nice question one of you make like to ask on the official site. Will Gareth be selling his shares to GdS?
B.J.M at 19:5:23 Friday July 19 2002
Do the Trust represent 10% or more of the voting shares?
B.J.M at 19:2:19 Friday July 19 2002
Probably not NTFC, I think this requires a special resolution, therefore 21 days.
B.J.M at 19:0:26 Friday July 19 2002
One wonders if that last sentence is a reason why the directors would prefer not to hold an EGM? Everyone would know what they are getting out of the deal then, wouldn't they?
A lesson in EGMs, by B.J.M at 18:58:56 Friday July 19 2002
Unless the articles of association provide otherwise, notice of general meetings must be given to every member of the company. The notice must also give members a sufficient indication of the business to be transacted at the meeting to enable them to decide whether they need to attend or not. The notice will therefore also set limits on what may be decided at a meeting and if a resolution is passed of which proper notice was not given a member will be entitled to a declaration that it was invalid. As part of the directors' duty to ensure that the members are fully aware of what is to be discussed at the meeting, the notice must disclose any benefit the directors will obtain as a result of the passing of any resolution.
NTFC@2view at 18:57:18 Friday July 19 2002
Looks as if - with a WILL - a meeting could be held quite quickly then. No-one would 'hold out' for the 3 weeks, surely?
A lesson in EGMs, by B.J.M. at 18:53:1 Friday July 19 2002
Shareholders are able to requisition the directors to convene an EGM, provided that the requisition states the objects of the meeting (s368(3)CA), and must be supported by holders of at least 10% of the voting paid up capital. If there is a valid requisition, the directors MUST convene a meeting within 21 days, otherwise the requisitionists may themselves call one (s364(4)CA). The minimum period of notice for EGMs is 14 days unless the meeting is one at which a special resolution is to be proposed in which case at least 21 days' notice must be given (s378(2)). The company's articles cannot provide for any shorter period but the minimum periods can be waived if a sufficient number of the members entitled to attend and vote at the meeting agree (s369(3)(b), (4) and 378(3)). There must be a majority in number of such members who must together hold at least 95% in nominal value of the shares giving a right to attend and vote at the meeting.
Bazza at 18:43:33 Friday July 19 2002
It may be a pain but if everyone has a password combined with a user name it would stop false postings.
Bazza at 18:40:28 Friday July 19 2002
Off Shite says Chris H 'still in the frame' Hmmmm. Asamoah out for six weeks!
Bazza at 18:35:16 Friday July 19 2002
The Battle of Abbey Park! I was beggining to think it was just a dream!
Holiday-bound Rodders at 17:41:11 Friday July 19 2002
Am very glad that I'm off on my holidays in a week's time. Bored with empty talk from the club, GDS and most other people. In some ways, as a life-long fan, I would rather the club ceased trading than went on like this. Let's hope things are sorted by the time I return from Suffolk on the first day of the new season. I do think that Hodder - for once - was rightwhen he criticises GDS public statements. It's time for him to put up or shut up.
Anon at 17:39:20 Friday July 19 2002
season tickets available for collection in 7 days time. They're just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is. so expect them just in time for our relegation crunch battle in may
all we want is some answers at 17:36:18 Friday July 19 2002
whos up for some protest action 2moro?
Anon at 17:35:31 Friday July 19 2002
how long does it take to get a balance slip from the cashpoint?
Duston Dustman at 16:59:59 Friday July 19 2002
Just read that official site statement. I think we're fukked. Never trust a bloody lawyer!
To His Horse at 16:57:49 Friday July 19 2002
Those were indeed the days, I recall and I have it on good authority that Tony Clarke once waited outside the spion Kop for a coach load of Pish fans to arrive and when the doors opened he climbed aboard and went all the way down the aisle bashing each and every posh fan until he got pinned down half way down the bus, he managed to scrap his way through and came out the emergency exit about 5mins later, yep them were the days. I think he was also a mate of Alan Trudghill, Paddy Rosney, Tank and the rest, they would sort GDS out for us shall we put a search out for them
Richard at 16:57:7 Friday July 19 2002
One of the parties is trying to back out of the deal, or is not being as honest as one would hope. By the looks of it, NTFC want to see how GDS is going to fund the club, and as yes this info has not been shown.
Hotel Ender at 16:51:10 Friday July 19 2002
Am I missing something here - the Official Shite (thanks to whoever coined that one it sums it up!) says the club are waiting for confirmation the finance is in place, GDS's son says the finance is in place but they have to wait for an EGM. Both sides are spinning themselves up their own arses. Bring back Barry Ward and let him negotiate with Tom Barry.
NTFC@2view at 16:40:27 Friday July 19 2002
Business types out there - who can call an EGM? Does it have to be a particular number of directors? Or shareholders? This was all settled according to one party on June 6th and settled on June 11th according to the other - with some proof needed. We are 6 weeks down the line (or up the creek!) and still no-one knows if it's right to call the EGM. Bloody call one - there's bound to be something to talk about! If not the sale, then the lack of it.
To His Horse! at 16:5:31 Friday July 19 2002
I'm so glad that it lifted the gloom for a moment! A change is as good as a rest my old Mum used to say!!
Richard at 16:0:33 Friday July 19 2002
Far too sensible, if the bunch of idiots running the club really wanted to sell to GDS they would have done this on 11/06/02 but no, we are left hanging on, shocking. And GDS is no better where has he been the last few days. I am starting to think that none of these are the best option and another buyer (Tom Barry??) might be the way to go. A complete disgrace the way the fans have been treated, and very amatur the way this deal has been done in public (GDS fault not the clubs)
NTFC@2view at 15:53:55 Friday July 19 2002
So the club say it's up to GdS to prove his funding is operative and then it can be decided if it is worth calling an AGM. I would have thought it worth calling one anyway, because if the funding isn't there the AGM will need to decide on how to liquidate.
Richard at 15:50:8 Friday July 19 2002
What are everyone thought on the clubs (non) statement, a load of rubbish and timewasting f you ask me, why do they seem to think we will put up with this?
Anon at 15:32:53 Friday July 19 2002
NTFC@2view thanks for coming out I too am at Infants at Spring Lane are you at St Matthews do they still have a great footie team that wins the Paget Cup each year?
NTFC@2view at 15:31:51 Friday July 19 2002
Thanks god for all those last postings it was all getting to serious, i was too young in those days, and now im a full time contributor to this message board I realise that I do need a life, perhaps when I leave school
...... at 15:30:20 Friday July 19 2002
mick uzelac, Paddy Rosney, Swainey...
Who needs Friends on TV at 15:29:46 Friday July 19 2002
Those were the days of the Vikings and friendships that last until today, where situations found heroes.... and there was fun and beeeeeeer!! CAPO DIEM!!!
Silver sprayed Doc martins at 15:28:12 Friday July 19 2002
What a saddo, the settee put in the back of a van on the way to Gillingham in the cup pre motorway days, with fans wearing dressing gowns....
Tubby 1 at 15:26:59 Friday July 19 2002
The Park Copper on his scooter trying to stop the Battle of Abby Park with the Pish.....
Helllpppppp!!! at 15:25:55 Friday July 19 2002
Naughty nights and afternoons at Sincil Banks, mad days at Oxford, 2 great days at Wembley, those white shirts with hoops, the 1st Division shirt, Joe Keirnan on the cover of Charlie Buchans Football Monthly, cigarette cards with Cobblers players on them, Mr Smiths Newsagents in Adnitt Road selling programmes, Alan Trudgill and his mate Dave who woke up one morning and drove to poland....
Great Days then and now at 15:23:29 Friday July 19 2002
Supporting the Cobblers what trips to Cambridge on the bridge in the allotment, Peterborough in their end by mistake, Crewe coaldust behind one end, having my mop confiscated, changing ends at Wimbledon and Barnet....
Anon at 15:22:27 Friday July 19 2002
Co double BB LERS CObblers at 15:22:8 Friday July 19 2002
and Club Tropicano is on the radio all we need is Dont u love me baby by the Human League....
down the streets broad and narrow... at 15:21:9 Friday July 19 2002
duck boards, half time collections, tanner hot dog, 6-0 half time, Don Martin, and super Frank Large...
As she wheeled her wheel barrow... at 15:20:17 Friday July 19 2002
Mad Mick, Tank, Jonah, Twinnies, Acko, Phil, Glen Hickman, Wellingborough lads from Queensway.....
Bow legged hen!!! at 15:18:38 Friday July 19 2002
Blisworth Hotel, Jolly chrispin, The Drill Hall - KC and the Sunshine Band, Val Bonne Club, 101, Flamingo Club, Bletsoe, California Ball rooms (Paul West we miss you buddy), 5 Bells, Sands/Cicles, Plough Sunday nights, The Road to Morocco opening with an elephant......
With a knock kneed chicken and a ..... at 15:16:7 Friday July 19 2002
Friday nights at the County ground disco, then kicking f.c out of the greebos (regret it now), the MK bowl The Police, Simple Minds, Bangles, Bowie; Jr walker at Shades, all my wages on 45s at John Levers, manager of Brierlies Menswear, stacking shelves, chef in the Golden Egg -- great days, Brief Encounter, The Cooper Club, salon on a Saturday - the gay Gordons, Sturtridge Pavillion, ClockWork orange clothes, Reggae Record shop in basement ketternig Road, The Rollaway Cafe, The Tramcar, The Dover Castle - those were the days!!!
To his Horse he was saying goodbye at 15:12:22 Friday July 19 2002
Thanks, only decent message on here for weeks, I love the Cobblers, but come on there are more important things in life, such as the Cobblers Reserves, the boating lake in Abby Park, Harlestone Firs early morning with the sun shining through the trees, memory lane in the Derngate, Kettering road and the Arcade, all of those second hand shops long gone at the back of the police station, the trmas on the Welli Road, Northern Soul at the Dog and Duck, top fashion from Kettering Market, import singles from a back street shop in Kettering long gone, the Doughboys in the local cup, driving to peterborough the day before th =e game and spraying Cobblers on farmhouse roofs, knowing tony Clarke when he was a West Ham lifer!!, the Northampton Carnival, and in the morning looking for pennies, the bus fro the White Elephant to Billing Aq. Sunday night disco and to the Nags Head at Wollast=on, and then missing the bus back due to naughties in the beer garden, overstone sol. swiming pool......
Anon at 12:44:47 Friday July 19 2002
Maybe they have a right to have a Vectra attitude. Maybe they see some of it as "their" season ticket money.
NTFC@2view at 12:33:18 Friday July 19 2002
So why not use a 'name'? People who think your posts reasoned and sensible will look for your future postings. (In my case it's usually to tell me I said something I didn't.) Just because it's possible that some idiot will use your name is no reason not to use it yourself.
NTFC@2view at 12:23:25 Friday July 19 2002
I am pleased to say that I know nothing about company law and I withdraw my scenario. It was, however, only meant to be an ironic comment on posters' cavalier attitudes to what is, in the final analysis, other people's money. Were I Stonhill I'd wave goodbye to my money and let the club sink. Were I di Stefano I'd smile as I watched it sink. But I'm not a forgiving sort.
United Front at 12:18:46 Friday July 19 2002
What's the betting that after the club statement there will be more questions than answers?
DR4E at 12:12:30 Friday July 19 2002
Yeah do it Ray, please!
Double Standards at 12:11:10 Friday July 19 2002
At least if you use nom de plume other posters can see that its the same person posting. Ray, now that the majority of posters are behaving any chance of restoring the original comment box? (although I appreciate the school hols have just started!)
Anon at 12:9:47 Friday July 19 2002
NTFC@2view says "Here's a doomsday scenario - Stonhill et al, tired of the burden and the almost constant hate and abuse they have suffered, have taken THEIR money from the club." Are you suggesting that they have acted illegally NTFC? It is not their money. It is the club's money. If the club can't pay it back without becoming insolvent in the process that is against Company Law. Until the point that the club has cash to spare it is the club's money, not the directors'. That's the way directors' loans work. If you lend a business money and it fails, you can't suddenly ask for your money back at the expense of other creditors. It is called a preferential transaction in the Companies Acts.
CP aka anon at 12:0:19 Friday July 19 2002
since it bothers you so much Mr @2View the anons at 10.50.41, 11.27.23 & 11.53.0 were all by me....I could quite easily have posted under the name NTFC@2View, or Barry Stonhill, or TCMP or Susan, which makes the whole 'having a name' thing a bit irrelevant dont you think?
To His Horse! at 11:59:3 Friday July 19 2002
Lovely day today! Smashing weather and the first day of the school holidays. Ah school holidays . . . . . . jumpers for goalposts, swimming at Middy Meadow, rambles through Kingsthorpe Mill and up in to the Firs, watching Colin Milburn swat a ton, waiting for the bus home in the Dergate, half-day closing on a Thursday, weeked treats at Overstone Solarium, factory fortnight in Yarmouth, cycling up to the causeway at Pitsford Reservoir, rummaging through the albums in Adnitts and then going up the Arcade to see if Memory Lane had it cheaper, going to the pictures at the Gaumont on the Market Square and getting excited about another new season about to begin at the County Ground.
here we go again at 11:58:37 Friday July 19 2002
they're releasing a statment later. it'll most likely say the deal will be done in 7 days. they've only got to cross the ts and dot the is you know
Anon at 11:53:0 Friday July 19 2002
I'm always here NTFC@2View, as you very well know. The only thing I will be disappointed in (to put it mildly) is if the club go belly up. GdS wouldn't be my first choice as owner by a long chalk, and probably not yours either. I never said he was Satan, I dont care about his profession I do care about his track record in business.......BUT I'm prepared to accept that we are faced with Hobsons choice and as far as I am aware there is no realistic alternative. Who knows what the future holds worst case? we either go bust before GdS takesover or we are probably / possibly heading for a bigger fall if he buys us and then he wants out a few years down the line because he will have left us in a bigger hole than we are in now. So in summary - I dont know whats for the best and neither do you
macc cobblers at 11:42:32 Friday July 19 2002
But we still do not have an answer to the question why we are in such a financial situation when Hodder stated in May that we had budgeted to break even , without any monies from ITV Digital or GDS.
NTFC@2view at 11:33:22 Friday July 19 2002
I think this is a silly question, but is the sensible Anon post at 11:27 by a different Anon to the other Anon posts? Please choose a nom de post for the future.
Anon at 11:27:30 Friday July 19 2002
WHAT IS GOING ON???????????????????????
Anon at 11:27:23 Friday July 19 2002
If the directors remove their money i.e their guarantees for the clubs loans and overdrafts then the club is instantly insolvent. Its ridiculous to suggest that directors are using season ticket money to repay their loans as the club would then soon be insolvent as well meaning that their bank guarantees would be called in leaving them out of pocket. Its much much much more likely that the season ticket money has been used up on wages, reducing the overdraft at the banks behest and paying things like the Inland Revenue. I dont believe there is a conspiracy by Stonhill et al. Look at the figures £500 000 in season ticket money - 4/12ths (ie May to August) of the annual wage bill of 1.3M is 430k, signing on fees, paying off a few (but not all) creditors would easily eat up any additional income received in sponsorship, council loans etc
Richard at 11:12:41 Friday July 19 2002
Ray - Can we not get TCMP back on the site, liek last week to try and answer some of the questions that need answering, ie if the deal what ready to go through a week ago, what has happened to delay this. It all seems very strange to me that Mr Stonhill has gone on holiday just as the GDS court case has finished. There always seems to be a barrier (excuse) for the deal not to be done, what is going on, us the fans, the ones who have purchased season tickets, kits and other mechandise need to know whats going on.
NTFC@2view at 11:11:19 Friday July 19 2002
Anon, nice to see you back. 'white knight' eh? I've asked YOU to prove to me that he's Satan. There is a difference. I've never 'known' how much money he has, so I've never spent it for him. I do feel he is still the only person with a bid on the table - and we desperately need some money. Can I just ask, are you disappointed or pleased that he has not completed the deal? I feel you will be one of those that win both ways. You will either have a team to support or you won't have the world's most hated man(bar one) as owner of your not club. And, of course, we will never know!
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:10:31 Friday July 19 2002
Ray, thats something I have also heard, and I remember it being mentioned at the time when our club came out of administration. However, as NTFC &Rob have both mentioned, other clubs have definately gone into administration more than once which is why I have assumed that it is always an option. Maybe once a certain period of time has elapsed, the first 'administration period' is effectively wiped off - a bit like points on a driving license. Either that or there is probably some legal loophole around it.
Ray at 10:54:9 Friday July 19 2002
If that is the case then I'd be pleased to retract but that is what I was told by an insolvency expert. Lets hope theres a special case for football clubs.
NTFC@2view at 10:53:54 Friday July 19 2002
There is so much we don't know, but we are all good at 'guessing'. Here's a doomsday scenario - Stonhill et al, tired of the burden and the almost constant hate and abuse they have suffered, have taken THEIR money from the club. The potential new owner, tired of the almost constant hate and abuse he has suffered has decided not to put HIS money into the club and pick up the burden. Oh dear!
Anon at 10:50:41 Friday July 19 2002
Its now patently clear that Mr Di Steffano never planned to invest any new money into the club but was just going to dig a bigger hole and run up larger debts / overdrafts. I always thought it was strange to say the club was a long term investment and then not want to buy the ground, he's certainly not the white knight who would be prepared to write off £1M of his £300M fortune as some on the Official site, and indeed our own Mr @2View have insisted.
Double Standards at 10:25:8 Friday July 19 2002
Drilling, I would guess that the Directors may have had certain short term loans repaid from season ticket monies (and I'm not even sure of that) but they still have fairly substantial outstanding loans that they have made to NTFC. The monies from season tickets were needed to steady the ship and see NTFC through the summer. What will happen now that money has been spent and the season has yet to start is anyone's guess. As regards Tom Barry's offer it is certainly worth looking at but unless someone is prepared to pay funds into the club now I fear that by the time any new deal can be sorted it will be too late.
Rob Dunkley at 10:12:58 Friday July 19 2002
Ray, I think Lincoln have been in adminstration twice as well.
NTFC@2view at 10:10:26 Friday July 19 2002
Are you sure about that Ray? I'm sure Swindon have done it more than once.
Ray at 9:51:25 Friday July 19 2002
Unfortunately, "administration" isn't going to be an option this time. You only get one bite at that cherry, Its either solvency or insolvency from now on.
Anon at 9:45:16 Friday July 19 2002
Has an EGM actually been called yet - why wasn't it called weeks ago ???? Forget whether its actually needed just call the b*gger... the situation as it stands now is farcical - heads must roll....
The Drilling Cobbler at 9:44:44 Friday July 19 2002
I've just read all the comments on the official site and in the heat of the moment have drawn up my conclusion. He is clearly stalling for time and it is becoming more painful. Stonehills now gone on holiday having changed all of our season ticket money into euros and as others have pointed out the club looks like it is heading for administration. Personnally I think this would actually benefit us because at least then we would have some 'proper' business people running the club and seeking new investers as opposed to the IDIOTS who are doing so currently. Gary Hodder must have taken at least 50k in wages since his appointment and has to date achieved NOTHING. If GDS has 300million at his disposal, why on earth is he trying to arrange an overdraft! The Tom Barry bid needs to be properly exposed so the supporters can then make their minds up to see wether BS has been holding out purely for more money.
NTFC@2view at 9:41:45 Friday July 19 2002
GdS will be more difficult to 'fit up' that McRitchie was.
Ray at 8:52:55 Friday July 19 2002
I believe people were saying that when McRichie was in charge - and it nearly wasn't. I think all supporters have a right to be concerned about the future.
Doom and Gloom its always here!! at 7:29:14 Friday July 19 2002
But then perhaps its always been like that supporting the Cobblers, so whats new, the team will be still around long after you Morons are gone!!!
richie fan from nz at 1:38:1 Friday July 19 2002
ralph coates played for burnley was transfered to spurs played in midfield and allso played for england.
NTFC@2view at 0:19:22 Friday July 19 2002
Hardly surprising considering the shit a load of nobodies is giving him. "Put up or shut up". Twats.
Anon at 23:36:32 Thursday July 18 2002
Good spot CP, the "friendly and fluffy" side of GDS isn't at home tonight.
Anon at 23:34:2 Thursday July 18 2002
So Ray when will you be changing the title of the big green clock from 'the season starts in' to 'number of days until we go into administration'...my money is on seven days - thats always a good answer, Gary Hodder told me so.
CP at 23:31:57 Thursday July 18 2002
GdS has even stopped giving weather forcasts now.
Anon at 23:22:14 Thursday July 18 2002
Had enough at 23:12:52 Thursday July 18 2002: yes, you go in and ask for a refund and after 3 days they stop laughing and say "NO. now get back in the cupboard with the other mugs" ever wondered why sixfields has such a large glass concourse? its so they can see us coming every other week.
season tickets an answer at 23:16:36 Thursday July 18 2002
you pay a set amount for 23 games and then you use the tickets to get into the games,the advantage is that you get i think two games free
Had enough at 23:12:52 Thursday July 18 2002
Could anyone please tell me the position regarding season ticket refunds?
im not taking this crap no more at 23:12:42 Thursday July 18 2002
22 days until PROTEST!!!
Anon at 23:10:14 Thursday July 18 2002
I think its got everything to do with the Trust. If they hadn`t saved the club in 92 ,we wouldn`t be going through all this shit now!
Anon at 23:7:1 Thursday July 18 2002
This is NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the supporters Trust and both ourselves AND NTFC LTD are still (as of 18.07.2002 at 21.00)doing all that is possible to resolve this. In simple terms position is that we have a substantial amount in the form of a prime bank guarantee to support facilities at the company's bankers FOR the use of NTFC. The company wish to use this. It can only be used when we complete. To complete the agreement has to be complied with. This is NOT a charitable donation or a gift. To complete an EGM is required after all the various advices. Sooner its called the sooner we can proceed. There is NO blame on Mr Clarke, the Trust, or those elements of the Supporters who do not wish our invelvement and who even now are doing what they can to make the most of this situation. If we had wanted to cancel we would simply have withdrawn our guarantee which is in place since June 6th! Neither will we cancel the guarantee since it is our wish to proceed as it is the shareholders
razhku^ the basher at 23:4:33 Thursday July 18 2002
the b*llocks i go on about makes more sense than the shite on the official message board,it's f*cking obvious if you wanna buy something do it,don't go round raising peoples hopes and than make up confusing excuse's,do we really want someone like that in control of our club,note remember this is OUR CLUB,we don't have another one,to fall back on,i think blow um out before this shite goes on and on,disupting our season.We've survived before we can do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COME ON THE TOWN
Anon at 23:0:31 Thursday July 18 2002
Stonhills on holiday,me thinks he wont be coming back.
Anon at 22:56:15 Thursday July 18 2002
Matter will be concluded after EGM .Where have we heard that before?
Anon at 22:52:22 Thursday July 18 2002
I think the club is falling apart .People within the club are now beginning to speak out.
Jimttc at 22:50:57 Thursday July 18 2002
10:45pm and GDS is back on the official site reading the derogatory comments that have been made following his last posting (or should that be "The last post".
Anon at 22:49:24 Thursday July 18 2002
Even better than spotting GD having apeep why not e-mail him with your thoughts at pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Anon at 22:45:15 Thursday July 18 2002
Thats Sollitt to Diamonds ! you Twat
Anon at 22:41:52 Thursday July 18 2002
Stonhill and co have fled the country with the season ticket money.
Anon at 22:40:6 Thursday July 18 2002
Welch to Diamonds. Discuss
OI WILSHER! LEAVE IT OUT at 22:39:7 Thursday July 18 2002
anybody else having trouble with ntfc.co.uk? it keeps going down.
OI WILSHER! LEAVE IT OUT at 22:39:5 Thursday July 18 2002
anybody else having trouble with ntfc.co.uk? it keeps going down.
Anon at 22:35:25 Thursday July 18 2002
Lets face it ,the whole Takeover saga has been a farce from day one from all party`s involved.That includes Hodder ,Stonehill et al.I think we are now witnessing the death of NTFC.Barring a miracle that is !
Anon at 22:35:18 Thursday July 18 2002
GDS is online at the Official Site having another peep and laugh at our expense.
Anon at 22:30:50 Thursday July 18 2002
All you dreamers seduced by the sweet promises of GDS go and take a look at his "statement" on the Official Site. The man is a bad joke.
Anon at 22:25:33 Thursday July 18 2002
Sod the Takeover! We now know the squad numbers
and back to the real things on peoples minds at 22:24:33 Thursday July 18 2002
Travel Watch Two at 22:17:6 Thursday July 18 2002
Anon at 22:22:44 Thursday July 18 2002
old wilshers got some work to do in the morning, editing GDS's post to make it sound a bit better
Travel Watch Two at 22:17:6 Thursday July 18 2002
Yes i do believe that Sixfields Travel have had a price increase for coaches this season but they have gone up market with new air conditioned coaches and mod cons any how they don't need to get into a price war with Trust Travel has they have a large membership base of approx 16% of the fans
Double Standards at 22:6:43 Thursday July 18 2002
Just read the statement, looks like GDS has found the perfect way out - insist on the EGM by which time the club will have well and truely hit the rocks. It also looks like very little of his own money was destined to end up at Sixfields.
NTFC@2view at 21:27:10 Thursday July 18 2002
Well that seems to be telling it like it is - and we're not exactly used to that sort of thing.
GDS Says: at 20:59:42 Thursday July 18 2002
The acquisition of NTFC LTD is a business decision based upon LONG TERM investment strategy. It is not a charitable donation or on any other factor.
gds at 20:55:28 Thursday July 18 2002
http://boards.ntfc.co.uk/MBv2/messageboard.php?mode=messages&action=show&iForumID=510&iThreadID=258838&sBackLink=mode%3Dtopics%26action%3Dshow%26iForumID%3D510
GDS on official board at 20:53:47 Thursday July 18 2002
My father has agreed the following statement to be issued on the NTFC website message board:
Anon at 20:29:55 Thursday July 18 2002
Damn! missed him.
MK Cobbler at 20:25:2 Thursday July 18 2002
Intesting to see that as this mom if you go to the Official Site you will see that GDS is online having a peep at what we are writing.
NORMAN SCOTT at 19:59:33 Thursday July 18 2002
JUST ASKING, a question !!!I THINK IT WILL BE NICE IS MY ANSWER
Just asking at 19:45:42 Thursday July 18 2002
Hi. How do you guys feel about the takeover? I mean, were you for or against it when it looked like happening? Just asking.
razhku^ the basher at 19:45:39 Thursday July 18 2002
arlothen speaksof evileave theeasternman,ghytu frees tuoloiu derrt derrt Spencer fretfret htoii ntfctooviewmoans neverstopsmoaning shutitup diseasedmindofamisery notseebrightsideinanything juyt juyil poiuty derderdertrr
Bazza at 19:39:47 Thursday July 18 2002
Drilling, I don't think Mc gregor's quite bad enough for worst 11 but easily qualifies for worst haircut 11. Last season's Johnny Rotton look was bad but on Tuesday at Raunds he looked like he was trying to grow a mullet.
Anon at 19:34:29 Thursday July 18 2002
I can assure everybody that GDS has not disappeared.I have just seen his log in name appear on the view users online column on the official message board. This is not the first time this week that I have noticed it.Why he is now watching from a distance and not posting is anybody`s guess,but I imagine that there are many things going on that we are not told.
am i a crim? at 19:30:49 Thursday July 18 2002
i lent my brother £40 the other day. is this against the law?
BIG JIM at 19:28:25 Thursday July 18 2002
New squad (I say loosely) numbers are out My we have some numbers of players on our books!!!
NTFC@2view at 19:26:38 Thursday July 18 2002
My e-mail "We have 17 professionals of whom 5 are injured and 2 suspended for the first match. Your son must know that and the disaster it could be for Northampton Town. Every post is 'nearly there', or 'just a few administrative matters' - but there has got to be so much more urgency to allow a team to be signed and trained together. Please do something as a matter of urgency." Reply from the lad. "we can only act within the limitations of the law and everyone is doing what they can but we cannot make time pass any quicker but doing our best. kindest of regards"
Gio`s Horse at 19:25:47 Thursday July 18 2002
NNNEEEYYYYYY Mr Wilkes
anybody else get the feeling......... at 19:22:49 Thursday July 18 2002
that we are being treated like cnuts? first off, the italians last year. then fashanu had a laugh at us (was there ever a reason for that bid being dropped?) and now the bespectacled one has gone walkabout.
wheres his horse? at 19:14:35 Thursday July 18 2002
We better find out if his horse was with him when he went missing, perhaps this time he's fell under it? Perhaps when we find the horse we could ask him for an update on the takeover, straight from the horses mouth like.
just an idea at 19:12:28 Thursday July 18 2002
The midfielder with international experience maybe Jorgenson from Bradfore who we have been linked with for some time now
So where is he? at 19:9:43 Thursday July 18 2002
If the case finished on the 15th and even his sonthinks he will be working on it all week, has he been reported missing? A lot of his friends have "gone missing" over the years so perhaps we ought to report his absence to the constabulary, after all we wouldn't want any harm to come of him would we?
lying bastards at 19:1:29 Thursday July 18 2002
From the Scotsman 16th July 2002 "THE Court of Appeal in London yesterday reserved judgment on the final round of a claim by a wealthy businessman, John Palmer, that he was wrongly convicted of masterminding a massive timeshare fraud. "
shame at 18:3:30 Thursday July 18 2002
its a shame that naming crap players is this easy for us
RUBBER DUCK at 18:0:8 Thursday July 18 2002
Crap midfield- how about tragic dave johnston, steve berry (apart from a goal againest cov) some old cogger from oxford called somthing Phillips , then put Andy Flounders up front
a modern day crappy at 17:57:43 Thursday July 18 2002
paul "run like a chicken" Mcgregor
Anon at 17:55:42 Thursday July 18 2002
Chris Lee
Anon at 17:55:26 Thursday July 18 2002
Ali Gibb
Another one. at 17:39:8 Thursday July 18 2002
Adey Mann.
Another crap player was at 17:32:24 Thursday July 18 2002
RICHARD "I'M CRAP AT FOOTBALL" SKELLY
macc cobblers at 17:23:10 Thursday July 18 2002
According to the Scotsman the Palmer appeal case finished on Monday, with final judgment reserved. I wonder what GDS has being doing since then.
M at 16:46:3 Thursday July 18 2002
Deano you wanna be carefull, adding your mail address to this site, you might encourage people to reply to you. And you know what that leads to......................
Deano at 16:36:57 Thursday July 18 2002
to answer a question from M down below Coates was with our near friends Swansea !!! and he's useless cos he couldnt get in their team!!
United Front at 16:14:5 Thursday July 18 2002
Am I mistaken or did the Official site promise a statement regarding our financial situation yesterday? And as for the news of the signing of a "midfielder with international experience", I'm not holding my breath.
The Drilling Cobbler at 16:0:9 Thursday July 18 2002
Just thought of another absolute gem - Christian Mclean! Definately replaces Patmore so my forward line now consists of Wilkinson, Mclean and Cambell. Gilzean was awful as well and would make the subs bench at the expence of Culpin.
The Drilling Cobbler at 15:56:20 Thursday July 18 2002
Morrys Scotts wonder goal against Port Vale in the autowindscreens(1st time volley from a high ball from 35yards - straight in the top corner) is the reason why I didnt include him in my forward line! Plus he wasnt as bad as the 3 players I did include. Trevor Slack was signed as a stop gap when either Mcpherson or Wilcox got injured and I thought he did an ok job. Dozzel was arguably one of the biggest dissapointments but surely there must be other donkeys more worthy of a midfield place? Back to the financial problems, I am now convinced its because the directors have been paying themselves back the money owed to them - I have still to receive a reply wither confirming or denying this and I cannot think of any other reason.
Anna Graham at 15:54:16 Thursday July 18 2002
I invest in a good fan
Bazza at 15:51:28 Thursday July 18 2002
Double, I agree, what's to stop GS making a donation or loan as a gesture of goodwill?
Double Standards at 15:46:51 Thursday July 18 2002
Just can't see why the reference to "only act within the limitations of the law" from the GDS camp is relevant, I think its just an excuse when there are other real reasons why the deal has not been finalised. - all NTFC need at the moment is a cheque to keep going until the GDS deal is sorted (if it ever is!) all this reference to Company Law is meaningless and there is nothing (at law) stopping GDS making a loan or a gift to NTFC.
Bazza at 15:28:48 Thursday July 18 2002
Sorry to all you Eng. Lang. pedants. It should have been, didn't.
NTFC@2view at 15:28:37 Thursday July 18 2002
Don't understand what you are saying DS.
Bazza at 15:27:15 Thursday July 18 2002
Did'nt we sign another ex-Ipswich stiff before Dozzell?
Anagram King at 15:23:55 Thursday July 18 2002
and for all of those who think we have been screwed, then another GDS anagram is "Done to, if in vaginas"
Anagram King at 15:21:59 Thursday July 18 2002
Strange a sit seems after all the talk on this site, but an anagram of Giovanni Di Stefano is "Fiend gains ovation" makes sense I think
United Front at 15:18:26 Thursday July 18 2002
How about Fitzroy Simpson for the international midfielder we are set to sign? He plays for Jamaica, is available on a bosman and is on trial at R+D.
Double Standards at 15:15:41 Thursday July 18 2002
NTFC@2view, maybe there is a law against writing a cheque payable to NTFC in July, for other "legal excuses" check out http://www.dumblaws.com/countries/countries.php?Country=England
BIG JIM at 15:14:7 Thursday July 18 2002
Morrys Scott, now there`s a certainty !
What About? at 15:13:10 Thursday July 18 2002
Ian Gilzean must be worthy of a place?
Bazza at 15:11:46 Thursday July 18 2002
Drilling, must be a slot for Jason Dozzell in worst ever.
regret at 15:3:33 Thursday July 18 2002
I think GDS might live to regret making his e-mail and mobile phone numbers so public, perhaps someone should ring his mobile phone and ask him how the case is going?
BIG JIM at 15:1:10 Thursday July 18 2002
Did (WHOOSH) Stevie Terry not score that goal the week before against Fulham in the F A Cup, then Chardie scored the winner against York in a 4-3 win. Mansfield were the last actual team to score at the County Ground a lad called Wilkinson if I recall?
Bazza at 14:53:51 Thursday July 18 2002
Thats put all our minds at rest then.
NTFC@2view at 14:47:36 Thursday July 18 2002
My e-mail "We have 17 professionals of whom 5 are injured and 2 suspended for the first match. Your son must know that and the disaster it could be for Northampton Town. Every post is 'nearly there', or 'just a few administrative matters' - but there has got to be so much more urgency to allow a team to be signed and trained together. Please do something as a matter of urgency." Reply from the lad. "we can only act within the limitations of the law and everyone is doing what they can but we cannot make time pass any quicker but doing our best. kindest of regards"
Bazza at 14:43:17 Thursday July 18 2002
OK for centre backs? Doesn't Hope worry you a bit? Don't you remember a big blond bloke called Lett? How about Trevor Slack?
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:36:34 Thursday July 18 2002
GK. Steve Sherwood. RB. Jason Pasco. LB. Chris O'Donnel!!!!!!!!!. CB'S. We have always been ok in this departement but I guess Charlie Bishop and Jason Burnham. Midfield. I need help as I do not have access at the moment to any old programmes! Forwards is easy. Paul Wilkinson, Greg Cambell and Warren Patmore. Although Sam Parkin would have lead the line before christmas! Paul Culpin was awful as well but actually scored quite a few goals, the prodigy Glenville Donegal was always amusing to watch as well!
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:26:43 Thursday July 18 2002
Steve Terry's Whoosh freekick which took a deflection versus York days after the Trust was born and McRitchie was still in at the helm. If only we knew at the time that every free kick for the next 3 years would be taken by Terry with the whooosh chant accompanying the inevitable smash over the bar! Wilkins goal versus Chester in the first last game at the cc after 18seconds. All 4 goals versus Southend in 87/88 season when Eric Steel was in the goal for the shrimpers - still the worst performance by a keeper I can recall. All of Steve Sherwoods inadequate displays between the sticks for us. How about a worst ever Cobblers team. Cont.
Bazza at 13:57:25 Thursday July 18 2002
Yeah and a pint cost tuppence and fish and chips were 6d per ton.
Sweet Memories at 13:42:39 Thursday July 18 2002
Starling, rolls the ball out to John Clarke who steals a yard and fools the advancing Aldershot attacker with a deft inside pass to Stuart "Robbo" Roberton to Felton who sreams down the right flank before switching the play over to the opposite wing where an athletic Dereck Christie controls the ball with the inside of his left boot beats the advancing defender and crooses a delightful ball to the advancing Paul Stratford, he volleys..... Great parry from the Shots keeper but the balls broken out of the box only as far as the majestical Billy Best.. he steady's himself to shoot and.... ooh thats a terrible tacle from the Aldershot defender. Free Kick. John Buchanan to take. He runs up to the ball whoooooosh WHAT A GOAL !! the keeper had no chance, eat your heart out Peter Lorimer that ball must have been travelling at the speed of sound.The Hotel End erupts, Even Bill Dodgin is on his feet, what a cracking display by this exciting Cobblers side..... Ah, they were the days,
Bazza at 13:40:28 Thursday July 18 2002
Thank s for Starling conf. It's not Ralph Coates is it? He played for England. He must be about 372 years old by now though, probably slowed up a bit.
M at 13:33:51 Thursday July 18 2002
What's Coates first name and who was he playing for last? thanks. searched the sites and comments and can't find the details
Starlings Penalty at 13:25:49 Thursday July 18 2002
Yes Bazza you are correct, I think Starling also scored during his cobblers career from a kick out of his hands. Can anyone confirm?
foofoo the bear at 13:22:58 Thursday July 18 2002
yes old dracula did score
Bazza at 13:10:19 Thursday July 18 2002
Can any one confirm that in the old 4th div promomtion season about 1976 that every player including keeper Alan Starling scored. If I remember it correctly he scored in the last game with a penalty.
Bazza at 13:5:29 Thursday July 18 2002
Perhaps the rumours about Lily are true. Yeah!
macc cobblers at 13:3:48 Thursday July 18 2002
The Drilling Cobbler - don't worry, you are not the only one waiting for an answer from the club re the current financial crisis. Perhaps Hodder is in a meeting !
Bazza at 13:3:39 Thursday July 18 2002
Or Theo Foley
Bazza at 13:3:3 Thursday July 18 2002
Or Eddie Mc Goldrick
Baxza at 13:1:36 Thursday July 18 2002
Or George Riley
Bazza at 13:0:55 Thursday July 18 2002
Or Knocker Gregory
Bazza at 12:59:49 Thursday July 18 2002
Perhaps Phil Neal's coming back
Anon at 12:59:45 Thursday July 18 2002
Wayne Williams goal against Wolves at the County Ground was also memorable - a very wind assisted shot/cross from the half way line with the Wolves keeper doing a "Seaman". As for Elad - overheard in the Hotel End (courtesey of WALOC) "What about that Efan Elad"? "Never mind Elad what about the efin Bell!"
Bazza at 12:59:43 Thursday July 18 2002
Perhaps Phil Neal's coming back
Bazza at 12:58:50 Thursday July 18 2002
Did'nt Fashnu play for England as well?
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:27:30 Thursday July 18 2002
Does anyone remember Efan Elads debut - versus Colcheste - when he came on as a substitute with around 1/2 an hour left and promply picked up the ball near the half way line by bringing it down on his knees, dribbling it some 60yards into the box whilst taking 4 or 5 defenders out only to fall over as he lined up a shot with just the keeper to beat? I have never known the Hotel End to go so quiet as almost everyone in an instance thought we had unearthed the new Pele! Someone then shouted 'Elad is the Son Of God, do dah, do dah, everybody joined in, and a new Cobblers legend was born! Everytime after that when we won the ball, screams of give it to Elad were heard from every section of the crowd. Unfortunately he then fell over or miscontrolled every single pass for the remainder of the game. By far, my most memorable moment supporting the claret and whites! O'neils goal(the Barbadian internation) after 30secs against Walsall reserves has to be up there as well! (a 30yarder)
No1 Cobbler at 12:24:2 Thursday July 18 2002
And don't forget Gazza he has had International experience.
Rob Dunkley at 12:23:20 Thursday July 18 2002
Indeed! Quite a few players we have had recently have under 21 experience such as Lavin, Hendon
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:19:22 Thursday July 18 2002
Irvin Gernon made appearences for the England under 21's so a player with international experience hardly breeds confidence with yours truly! Not forgetting Efan 'SON OF GOD' Elad!
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:17:16 Thursday July 18 2002
Yesterday afternoon I asked the question on the official site "Is the current financial crisis caused by directors re-claiming their money from personal loans". As of yet, no answer to my question, not even a denial. As it stands, I take that as a yes then....
Rob Dunkley at 12:10:49 Thursday July 18 2002
Chronic suggests we are set to sign a midfielder with international experience, who Broads has been traking for a number of weeks. Depending on definition of international experience this could be Coates as he played for wales under 21s
Where you go? at 11:7:16 Thursday July 18 2002
Hello peeps, justa loggedee on to talks with my old GD Stefano friendly peeps to says how wondersful he is.. but you have alls gone away? why you not like him no more?
Takeover at 11:5:7 Thursday July 18 2002
official shite latest: "We don't know" yes as unbelievable as it seems after all the rubber stamps, 7 days and deadlines bypassed by technicalities, they tell us " We don't Know" Honesty or an admission that they have led us down the garden path? what a total balls up!
Rodders at 10:36:10 Thursday July 18 2002
If Coates is still on trial then why hasn't he featured in the friendly games yet?
Rodders at 10:34:17 Thursday July 18 2002
If the GDS deal is now dead - and I stress IF - then Hodder is really under pressure to justify his large salary. We could have signed up Hunt or Hargreaves for less. What precisely has he done so far?
Rodders at 10:31:41 Thursday July 18 2002
I can understand playing pre-season games against non-league sides like Nuneaton. But why play Asamoah against a local United Counties side? Some clodhopper was always likely to scythe him down. We could now be without one of our potential match winners for some time.
Bazza at 10:27:5 Thursday July 18 2002
Welsh lad from Leicester? Robbie Savage of course!
Bazza at 10:25:27 Thursday July 18 2002
Whoever the cowardly c##t is who posted as Bazza at 22.18 on Wed and at 18.18 on Tues, f##k off you t#rd and if you're going to make remarks about anyone else on this site do it under your own name! Apologies if this causes offence but it really gets on my tits!
Richard at 9:27:51 Thursday July 18 2002
Who is Sturridge, who is the Welsh lad from Leicester and who else are we gonna sign?
No1 Cobbler at 9:9:49 Thursday July 18 2002
Has anyone noticed that we have got a better record in our 2 pre-sason friendlies this year than we did in all our pre-seasons last year
how long? at 0:11:10 Thursday July 18 2002
could the clock at the top be changed so instead of reading how long until the new season kicks off it reads how long its been since we were put up for sale/ the last bid was recieved/ the last deadline was made or whatever?
TRAVELWATCH at 23:2:6 Wednesday July 17 2002
I've just noticed on the official site that Trust Travel have announced their prices for Wycombe and Cardiff. They seem to be much cheaper than Sixfields.Didnt Sixfields do Wycombe for £5 last year, Are they aiming to make enough to bid for the club?
razhku^ the basher at 22:49:28 Wednesday July 17 2002
moo moo fining kilpyy ghotyrr bughbugh juyylerer footfoot asamoah sinty huopper Weaver finbin duytuyt kioopp loop scaertw nout nout nout
Bazza at 22:18:10 Wednesday July 17 2002
I apologise to NTFC@2view for the sad comments made by Adam again this afternoon. Yes, he really does need to grow up. I have been telling him that for ages. I also keep telling "foofoo" that you can't polish a turd.
are you all pissed at 22:17:56 Wednesday July 17 2002
try reading the messages below! they read like nonsence, have we had Mad Cow Disease passed on by the Village Playoff specialists!!
annoyed at 21:16:0 Wednesday July 17 2002
asamoah possible broken ankle brought on by a talentless defender who joined the resat of his team mates in kicking chunks out of asamoah all night
NTFC@2view at 20:43:52 Wednesday July 17 2002
Trial keeper, Derek as the Senior Pro, Lowe etc. Several of the rest have their mum's with them for half time feeds and nappy changes.
Bazza at 20:22:43 Wednesday July 17 2002
The official site says that the reserves are to play Northampton Spencer. So we've got enough players to put out a reserve side then?
razhku^ the basher at 19:27:9 Wednesday July 17 2002
laurlondiel nevogondwen burzaraniel arlothien hj gerts huzzel monstger hissty ogreyht
big bro at 17:58:17 Wednesday July 17 2002
Alex or Tim you decide
MK Cobbler at 17:56:59 Wednesday July 17 2002
GDS has said he ahs set up a trust to be the shareholder. A trust has trustees (plural) and so GDS should not be needed to sign anything whatever court, country or horse he may be on at the present time. In other wirds, GDS whose bankers bank with him (his words written on the Official Site) put up or shut up.
BIG JIM at 17:45:11 Wednesday July 17 2002
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
anon at 17:36:10 Wednesday July 17 2002
was it jones?
BIG JIM at 17:32:58 Wednesday July 17 2002
I would say Weaver is a cert as Kev wouldn`t have tracked him so much last season. Also I thought we were to sign a young Welsh lad released from Leicester?
BIG JIM at 17:31:4 Wednesday July 17 2002
that should read (BAR A FEW)
BIG JIM at 17:29:44 Wednesday July 17 2002
To be honest I can`t see Hargreaves coming back. Coates is tome a very good replacement for Hargreaves. It would be interesting to see exactly who big Kev is trying to bring in. I think that Hargreaves maybe trying to wait for theGDS deal to happen for more money. If that was the case I could see us having a decent Reserve team full of our current first teamers(ber a few)
Richard at 17:24:16 Wednesday July 17 2002
I have no idea Big Jim, I know we are looking at Weaver and Coates, plus one defender and 1 more GK and one more Midfielder, as well as still talking to Hargreaves, but as he has missed the first part of pre-season, i doubt he will be back.
BIG JIM at 17:22:17 Wednesday July 17 2002
Nobody bother answer my query then !!!!
NTFC@2view at 17:20:46 Wednesday July 17 2002
I am the real NTFC@2view now if you don`t leave me alone I `ll tell mummy and cry as I am a sad 28 yr old who still tied to mummy`s apron strings.
NTFC@2view at 17:15:54 Wednesday July 17 2002
Brilliant wit types out his post. Excited by the brilliance of his post he hits the caps lock but is too carried away to correct it - or even really see it. Panting with anticpation he presses 'Okay', then twice more - because it's worth it! Then he goes back to watching Blue Peter, smirking.
BIG JIM at 17:9:21 Wednesday July 17 2002
Who is posting those comments? A bit ott don`t you think
BIG JIM at 17:8:27 Wednesday July 17 2002
Any more on the new faces apparently arriving at Sexfields?
NTFC@2view at 17:7:12 Wednesday July 17 2002
I am unemployed I do not have a life OR FRIENDS PLEASE DON`T STOP ME DOING IT TOMORROW
NTFC@2view at 17:7:9 Wednesday July 17 2002
I am unemployed I do not have a life OR FRIENDS PLEASE DON`T STOP ME DOING IT TOMORROW
NTFC@2view at 17:7:5 Wednesday July 17 2002
I am unemployed I do not have a life OR FRIENDS PLEASE DON`T STOP ME DOING IT TOMORROW
NTFC@2view at 17:0:9 Wednesday July 17 2002
"give valid comments and information" LOL On this board? Are Horse's Arse and Little Birdie the same person then?
4 Little birdie taken from the Chron at 16:56:45 Wednesday July 17 2002
Town were being watched by old-boys Dave Savage and Steve Howard, and the Luton man would have been impressed as Stamp rose at the far post to nod the ball into the path of Paul McGregor whose miss-timed shot was tucked home from just seven yards by Forrester.
NTFC@2view at 16:56:29 Wednesday July 17 2002
Are you serious? I saw them too, walking about looking smart. I was silly enough to think we might be seeing someone actually playing. Are you really suggesting they are potential targets? I don't think we could afford Stevie's posh Merc, let alone his wages.
NTFC@2view at 16:53:4 Wednesday July 17 2002
I am booked in at 1030 am there is still time to stop me,also it will be done at the animal shelter Wood Green Please put encouraging comments on here as I like to know I asm a popular character on this message board and give valid comments and information
BIG BIRDIE at 16:50:2 Wednesday July 17 2002
NTFC@2view , UNLUCKY .
A little birdie at 16:46:18 Wednesday July 17 2002
NTFC@2view - if you were interested in anybody else's postings other than your own you might have noticed mine from last night telling you that Dave Savage and Steve Howard were there.
NTFC@2view at 16:44:38 Wednesday July 17 2002
This is an apology. I must give my sincere apologies to everybody as I am such a cock. I know nothing about the cobblers and I am a Rushden and Diamonds/ Peterbrough fan who has nothing better to do than wind people up on this message board. I have sought medical advice and I shall be going to the vets to be EUTHENASED in the morning to do everybody a favour
NTFC@2view at 15:55:40 Wednesday July 17 2002
Send HIM an e-mail and ask your question. He or his son might know some answers - and even give them.
The Drilling Cobbler at 15:1:19 Wednesday July 17 2002
AMG, From what I understood everything has been agreed verbally, the only thing stalling the deal going through was the formalities of an egm. Now it is apparent that an egm is not required, I see no reason why GDS cannot find an hour or so this week to simply sign the paperwork and let his son and Rev Page to get on with running the club. Stalling tactics are being used and i'm pretty sure the deal is now where Fash's one is - 6 feet under. Maybe he could use 0.1% of the alledged 33million he's saving his client to pay Scarborough for Stamp!
macc cobblers at 14:55:27 Wednesday July 17 2002
As we all know, trial cases last all day and night - and there is no means of transport between Northampton and London, so there is no possible way that GDS could conclude this deal !
Richard at 14:54:29 Wednesday July 17 2002
No point worrying about it, if anything is going to happen there is nothign we can do about it.
Double Standards at 14:53:24 Wednesday July 17 2002
I accept that GDS has other things to do but having spent so much time over the purchase of NTFC I can't see why his work should suddenly become the reason for the delay. Anyway, can't Rev Page, his son and his pal who will be running the club get involved? The club needs additional funding now.
NTFC@2view at 14:45:46 Wednesday July 17 2002
I think if you're a bloke supposedly saving a client £33,000,000 you might get the next week or two off!
NTFC@2view at 14:44:23 Wednesday July 17 2002
HORSE'S ARSE - Extra faces were there? I thought I saw Rio Ferdinand in an old away shirt and I'm sure the fat old bloke behind the carpark goal was Robbie Savage in a Sumo suit. (Just joking! What's your game?)
AMG at 14:34:42 Wednesday July 17 2002
Double Standards - Di Stefano would require time to read the final documents and then sign them in front of all parties concerned.
Double Standards? at 14:27:47 Wednesday July 17 2002
AMG, as Di Stefano is meant to be a lawyer surely he is in court most weeks. Why should that now stop him completeing the deal?, sounds like he's stalling.
Message B4 at 14:20:12 Wednesday July 17 2002
Mr K Broadhurst in Sporting Life
Anon at 14:18:42 Wednesday July 17 2002
He said: "I'm pleased the goalkeeping situation is a little clearer. We still have plenty of irons in the fire for other areas and it's a case of juggling the rest of the budget to see what we have."
BIG JIM at 14:15:49 Wednesday July 17 2002
Too right Richard. I am fed up with people on this message board talking crap. Give us some thing meaty please!!!!!
BIG JIM at 14:14:27 Wednesday July 17 2002
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Richard at 14:11:5 Wednesday July 17 2002
Yeah yeah, be more specific Horse, other wise I could just say, something will happen with regards Cobblers singings in the next few days. As it stands 2 ex players (Savage and Howard) went to catch up with a few ex colleagues. Get a life and give some facts if you know so much, otherwise you are just spouting hot air.
THE HORSE WHISPERER (IS ALWAYS RIGHT at 14:3:29 Wednesday July 17 2002
You see there was extra faces there and be surprised even more for the next installment
AMG at 13:52:31 Wednesday July 17 2002
After talking to Michele Di Stefano via email, the take-over is not going to take place this week due to Giovanni Di Stefano being in court in London all this week.
NTFC@2view at 12:10:53 Wednesday July 17 2002
When you are a little older you might learn the difference between an honest comment on our team and complaining that a match report was a little later than you wanted it to be. In fact, even at your present tender age, it ought to be quite obvious.
Pots and Kettles at 11:16:4 Wednesday July 17 2002
ntfc@2view 22:43 Tues night " Moan fucking moan! Points for moanimg we'd win Europe!" ntfc@2view 7:38 Wed morning "Having watched a paper thin squad play 'all right' against Raunds Town, and knowing that 2 of them can't play on the opening day against a good-footballing ex-Div 1 side, I would suggest you start worrying about something important."
Richard at 11:4:20 Wednesday July 17 2002
I see Lavin requies further surgery, how Kevan must have wished he had kept Roy Hunter. Who are the players we are currently giving trials too, I know about Luke Weaver (GK) and Jonathan Coates (Left Mid) But there is at least 1 more defender and one more midfielder
The Drilling Cobbler at 8:23:42 Wednesday July 17 2002
The football trust put in 1million I think, or was that from the lottery? Either way, the rest of the money to build sixfields was stumped up by the council - around 7million I think. Having been to Raunds every year for god knows how long, I could not be asked last night with the annual pilgrimage deep into inbred land. Good to see that we won, it is vital that we have a decent pre-season to build confidence up for the 1st game. Negative pre-season results can have a huge impact at the start of the season - the 1st 45minutes versus Bristol C last season being an example! Shit, I'm talking about football.....
QUOTE FROM THE COMMANDING HARPER LAST NIGHT.... at 8:19:52 Wednesday July 17 2002
"Keep squeezing the box boys!!!"
NTFC@2view at 7:38:9 Wednesday July 17 2002
HE. Having watched a paper thin squad play 'all right' against Raunds Town, and knowing that 2 of them can't play on the opening day against a good-footballing ex-Div 1 side, I would suggest you start worrying about something important. If you don't, I fear for your health and sanity by Xmas.
RUBBER DUCK at 0:2:29 Wednesday July 17 2002
To TCMP who is tom barry ? what does he represent & if he takes the cobblers on how much money does he put in?
FASHANU at 23:45:26 Tuesday July 16 2002
I'm still waiting
Smithy at 23:13:3 Tuesday July 16 2002
well go on then what? Inform the misinformed
Hotel Ender at 23:7:24 Tuesday July 16 2002
NTFC@2view - are you really Gareth Willsher in disguise (or his dad?) - the gripe - which you clearly cannot grasp - is if the official shite is purporting to offer a service - then why doesn't it?? the "See The Worthington Cup DrawFirst Here" fiasco - I wish I lived at your house - everything in the garden is obviously rosy
What? at 23:6:11 Tuesday July 16 2002
Blimey Smithy, you are so wrong.
Smithy at 22:47:9 Tuesday July 16 2002
few points. firstly, has stonhill EVER managed to sell a house? the way he is flogging this club cant be a good advert for his "empire" The club will have to do something soon. theres only 24 days till crewe and i think that maybe 1 or 2 of the 2500 mugs who stumped up the cash (me included) will want to know why a) we aren't sold yet and b) where has all the money gone. i hope we dont hear of any players or management complaining of too many games in a week as the last 7 days seem to have started before last christmas. another point: didnt the football trust stump up most of the cash for sixfields? if so, when Mr. "Honest John" Fashanu wanted the club why did the council have so much say in it? Wouldn't the Football trust have wanted their money back?
A little birdie at 22:46:26 Tuesday July 16 2002
Del boy's goal was worth the trip on its own.
NTFC@2view at 22:44:3 Tuesday July 16 2002
The report's on there now you miserable twat! Moan fucking moan! Points for moanimg we'd win Europe!
A little birdie at 22:43:41 Tuesday July 16 2002
Who else spotted Steve Howard and Dave Savage at the match tonight? Hmmmmm..............
Rubber Stamp at 22:39:5 Tuesday July 16 2002
Perhaps Marsh is doing an important job like looking after Garry Hodders rubber stamp - or is that the new Kit Managers job??
Bazza at 22:22:53 Tuesday July 16 2002
I like Harsley, not sure about Stamp. Wheres Marsh?
Hotel Ender at 22:18:1 Tuesday July 16 2002
the official shite is getting worse - they no longer want to provide a service for long distance fans - thank goodness for Cobblers Comments - at least we get to know the score - the official shite says "Cobblers begin with a vicory" you then click on "more" and it just says we'll be bring you a report later. thanks Gareth you wanker
Glenn at 22:0:40 Tuesday July 16 2002
3-1 win
Anon at 21:49:52 Tuesday July 16 2002
What was the score?
NTFC@2view at 21:26:22 Tuesday July 16 2002
I meant relegation!
NTFC@2view at 21:25:53 Tuesday July 16 2002
I meant Horse's Arse! Harsley looks a good lad, the keeper was OK, Stamp won quite a few headers. We will be challenging for promotion!
NTFC@2view at 21:24:29 Tuesday July 16 2002
MESSAGE FOR HORSE WHISPERER - You meant to call yourself Horses Arse, didn't you?
Rob Dunkley at 19:14:5 Tuesday July 16 2002
Cobblers team Harper; Burgess, Sammo, Hope, Spedding; McGregor, Harsley, Carruthers; Stamp, Forrester, Gabbadini SUBS Asamoah, Luke Weaver (gk) no sign of marsh
THE HORSE WHISPERER (IS ALWAYS RIGHT) at 18:50:14 Tuesday July 16 2002
Wrong!!! A couple of internationals and ex
What a joker at 18:32:47 Tuesday July 16 2002
This was on a Cambridge news link from GDS legal site re Michel and Freddie Meloni... 12th July... "Freddie has already done some scouting and has earmarked around 10 players from Argentina and Italy who could definitely do a job for Northampton," said Mr Di Stefano. I suppose you could add these to the Scottish and Georgian Internationals promised by Di Stefano in June!! How do people get away with talking such bollocks and still expect to maintain any credibility. Whilst their living in their own little dreamworld delivering missives to their sychophantic followers the club is dragged to the edge of the courts over a £30,000 bill for Darren Stamp. God I am angry, someone should be made to pay for this. I for one am fed up to the back teeth of being taken for a sucker. You can stick GDS, Stonhill and the club apologists where the sun dont shine for all I care.
Bazza at 18:18:42 Tuesday July 16 2002
The other thing that adam can't decide is whether he is straight or rampantly gay. 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 is the least of his problems.
Anon at 18:15:44 Tuesday July 16 2002
Gareth at 16:44:59 - nice try.
foofoo the bear(kit manager) at 18:12:3 Tuesday July 16 2002
drilling it's easy i manage the kit, i decide wether to hang it up in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 formantion,this is why it's confidential,don't wanna give the oppostion any clues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fat Lady Singing at 18:5:8 Tuesday July 16 2002
So the deal wont be over till the fay lady sings? Well I remember a fat bloke TCMP singing a few weeks ago at the Trust Open Forum, telling us to be on our guard as everything about GDS was not what it seemed. Trouble is we all told him to piss off. Stonhill also told us that night that no other bid had been recieved (since proved to be a lie) and that Mr GDS has acted proffesionaly and had the "best interests" of the club at heart, Well judge for yourself's if you think that is true. I think from here on in I am going to get less excited by false promises and join those asking difficult but much needed questions of all those involved.
The Drilling Cobbler at 17:28:2 Tuesday July 16 2002
Richard, the other day I asked what the job role of the kit manager was and was told that it was confidential! Not the wages or terms and conditions - just simply the role. I would therefore be surprised if they were prepared to give me a breakdown of where the season ticket money has gone! NTFC, I know the money has to last the year, but it appears at this stage that it has actually all been spent. Which is what worries me. As for other debts BJM, the biggest priority debt of them all - the pfa debt - is yet to be paid so what chance is there that other debts have been cleared? The club has always maintained that the financial problems are caused by cash flow purposes, not actual debts, so unless they are lying to us again NTFC should not owe anybody money with the exception of the bank. At least that is what we are all lead to believe.
Richard at 17:15:9 Tuesday July 16 2002
But who are the mystery players, and are there really going to be any??
NTFC@2view at 17:7:43 Tuesday July 16 2002
Looking forward to tonight, but your post has added to it Horse!
Richard at 16:56:27 Tuesday July 16 2002
Who are the new players then Horse?
THE HORSE WHISPERER (IS ALWAYS RIGHT) at 16:44:59 Tuesday July 16 2002
CHECK OUT THE NEW AND POTENTIALLYNEW PLAYERS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON SHOW TONIGHT YOU WILL BE SURPRISED BELIEVE ME
BIG JIM at 16:42:1 Tuesday July 16 2002
B J M Have you tried contacting me on that new e mail address? If not Why not?
Bexxy at 16:37:26 Tuesday July 16 2002
So good.... I had to say it TWICE!!!!
Bexxy at 16:36:43 Tuesday July 16 2002
Forgot to mention..... C'MON THE TOWN!!! (thats Northampton, not Raunds!!)
Bexxy at 16:36:28 Tuesday July 16 2002
Forgot to mention..... C'MON THE TOWN!!! (thats Northampton, not Raunds!!)
Bexxy at 16:35:38 Tuesday July 16 2002
Yes i shall be there too... Not that i'll know who half the team is now theres so many new boys, but it should be interesting!!!
M at 16:32:54 Tuesday July 16 2002
I am, can't wait. Don't really give a monkeys ?*%* I just wanna watch them play. It's been a long time
Bexxy at 16:28:59 Tuesday July 16 2002
Sorry to interupt usual proceedings on here BUT..... anyone going Raunds tonight???
B.J.M at 16:7:13 Tuesday July 16 2002
You also forget the debts that were there before the season ticket money came in. In all probability it barely covered that.
NTFC@2view at 15:44:23 Tuesday July 16 2002
You haven't forgotten that the season ticket money has to last all year have you?
Richard at 14:48:6 Tuesday July 16 2002
Drilling, ask it on the NTFC message board to the club, you won't get an answer on here, at least on the other one your queries will be replied to and taken on board.
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:29:28 Tuesday July 16 2002
new players have been paid, and I doubt that any of the new signing have been paid substantial signing on fees. So surely - with season ticket money alone - there surely must be money left over in the bank unless of course certain private debts have been settled? The figures simply do not add up. Porkies are being told and its about time we all new the truth. And what about the 50k loan from the council? I know that the club only receives a percentage of ticket money, but whichever way you look at it there should not be problems at this stage settling wages, bills and small transfer fees. Clearly there is and I WANT TO KNOW WHY.
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:24:32 Tuesday July 16 2002
What concerns me the most is why we are so skint before the season even starts. The clubs excuse for this is that it is the time of the year when it raises the least income. Bollocks! I would suggest that May and June are possibly the most profitable 2months with almost 1/2 of the seasons gate money coming in, sponsors re-signing, and the shop clearing its stock as people go on holidays, buy new merchandice etc. I would even go as far as suggesting that this money is being taken by the current directors as they seek payback from their own investments over the years. Traditionally, it has always been winter time when the money worries are upon us, not in June when the club has just raised 600k in season ticket sales. Last years wage bill was 1.6million - thats roughly 130k per month. That bill has already been reduced substantially, it surely cannot be any higher than 80-90k in July. So thats approx 220k in wages since the season ended. The pfa loan has not been paid, no fees on (cont)
Lincolnshire InBred Cobbler at 14:23:37 Tuesday July 16 2002
We will never go semi pro and operate in the Spring Boroughs!!!
Macc Cobblers at 13:32:37 Tuesday July 16 2002
Like father like son , springs to mind !
Double Standards? at 13:2:10 Tuesday July 16 2002
M, the message you have received from GDS's son is like many of his own messages - open to interpritation in several ways, makes some sort of moral statement and refers to matters not connected with NTFC. He tries to reassure that all is well but what we need is action. Broadhurst clearly has no money for players, Scarboro' want their cash and it will soon be pay day again. Even when the season starts the revenue from home games will barely cover wages yet alone all the other costs. Unless GDS can demonstrate that he will be putting serious money into NTFC within the next day or so t he club should drop him and try and salvage something from Tom Barry's proposal
Macc Cobblers at 12:24:31 Tuesday July 16 2002
Unfortunately that is where you are wrong ! Having worked with Italian legal authorities it is correct that they are sticklers for detail , but they also work to strict deadlines. Perhaps somebody should tell the son of GDS that 99% certain does not mean a thing - once he gets to 100% he can start getting excited. And finally, IF the GDS case is going ahead, it is becoming more apparent that NTFC are obviously very low down in his list of priorities
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:21:25 Tuesday July 16 2002
What you say is true Roger. Its not the time element that annoys me, it is the fact that those involved with the deal have been promising for weeks now (months in Fashs case) that the deal is only '7 days away'. And with a house there is often a 'chain' involved - correct me if I am wrong but no chain exists between the current board and the prospective buyer(s). Maybe if it wasnt for a string of false promises and deadlines people would be more chilled out about the whole thing. Maybe if Welch had resigned, maybe if Scarborough had been paid on time, maybe maybe.....
Roger L at 12:13:38 Tuesday July 16 2002
I know pessimism goes with the territory of being a Cobblers fan but you lot are unbelievable. Even buying a house drags on for weeks - let alone a business. Stop moaning and whining.
M at 11:46:22 Tuesday July 16 2002
Have had another reply from GDS' son. it reads 'its not a problem. i think my father has his greatest victory in english legal history and that it is 99%certain he has won the palmer Confiscation saving £33 million. excuse him for treating his work as a priority. he would be the same if he were defending a milkman charged with stealing a milk bottle. its not the client but justice that concerns him. we will deal with NTFC expediently so please do NOT worry. MICHELE S DI STEFANO' Maybe we're gonna be ok
NTFC@2view at 11:37:10 Tuesday July 16 2002
You're probably right Drilling. Don't forget though, the fat lady has not yet uttered a note, whatever people claim. Without him there's still a light at the end of the tunnel, but it's only there so you can see the bottomless pit just before we fall into it.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:50:2 Tuesday July 16 2002
Have to disagree with you there NTFC. Fash has managed countless inteviews on national radio, articles in virtually every national paper and much air time on sky sports amongst other national television channels. Everybody in football is aware of his 'bid', like most knowledgable people are aware of the GDS 'bid'. World Wide Winners is now a much bigger brand than previously, and any 'high profile' criminal looking for a 'high profile' international lawer to defend them now knows the existence of GDS, and probably where to find him! None of the publicity attributed to either of these two has helped NTFC one little bit. Which is where my conspiricy thoughts are coming from.
NTFC@2view at 10:19:31 Tuesday July 16 2002
Nosey, you obviously love our club, but it is, in the scheme of things, about as small as you can get before calling it insignificant. Pretending you are going to take over ManUre will get you back-page publicity, or even fron-page. Pretending you are going to take over the Cobblers is likely to get you - very little. Except, perhaps, a little sympathy.
M at 9:15:32 Tuesday July 16 2002
Sorry for the delay, back in work now. reply came back from son at 4:37pm 'as soon as all legalities completed. regards Michele S Di Stefano' Let's not panic...............yet. Infact, let's all go to Raunds and support them all tonight.
Nosey Parker at 8:28:36 Tuesday July 16 2002
GDS is another example of a publicity seeking idiots like Fash and the Italian mob. Why do the Cobbs seem to attract such idiots in the first place? I think the coming season could well be our last as a pro club because the next stage is going semi as we cannot afford the wages etc.
Anon at 6:27:15 Tuesday July 16 2002
Doesn't GDS sound like that kid who tried to buy Aldershot all those years ago. Within weeks they were finished as a pro club. I fear the end is nigh.
TRB Mark at 23:48:43 Monday July 15 2002
I suggest the Borough Council invite Fashanue and Di Stefano as guests of honour at the balloon festival. With the combined spouting of hot air, the balloonists would get around the world in 80 minutes, let alone 80 days.
nsb at 23:16:34 Monday July 15 2002
is stonhill one of the seven perverts? what are our teams for tuesday night then??
nsb at 23:15:7 Monday July 15 2002
quote by mr di stefano "I deal with people who are alleged to have committed serious criminal offences, " he said. "I do not defend Snow White unless she is charged with the seven perverts." makes you wonder whoat skeletons stonhil has in his closet no?
Pessy Mist at 22:44:8 Monday July 15 2002
Is there going to be one?
Anon at 22:31:29 Monday July 15 2002
Is anyone actually looking forward to the start of the season?
Anon at 22:13:57 Monday July 15 2002
The situation is that we are waiting to hear back from Mr Di Stefano's lawyers. Our legal advice late last week was that an EGM was not needed. Our lawyers communicated this to Mr Di Stefano's lawyers and if they agree with this we are ready to complete.
Anon at 22:13:18 Monday July 15 2002
Shades of when GDS was about to takover at Dundee? That deal was as good as done but came to nothing - the earlier suggestions that he is a bit of a Walter Mitty could be true. Trouble is while NTFC have been talking to GDS they have not been tallking to anyone else. Much as I am against the GDS involvement in NTFC we need his or someone elses money pretty quickly.
Anon at 22:10:10 Monday July 15 2002
Just get on with supporting your team,and less those responsible conduct the business.
Anon at 22:8:17 Monday July 15 2002
Mr di Stefano does not believe it is a major problem: "The first I heard of it was today. It's going to be resolved and £30,000 - in a £3 million budget - will hardly be a problem when we complete this matter."
Anon at 22:5:56 Monday July 15 2002
One problem Mr di Stefano is likely to have to deal with concerns the signing of striker Darryn Stamp.
The Drilling Cobbler at 22:4:14 Monday July 15 2002
Just to add to that, remember the planned protest on this site prior to the Bournemouth game was reported in the Chron & Echo. What happened 2 days before that planned protest - the club announced that John Fashanu and his mates would be attending the match and would be more than likely buying the club. Stonehill said at the time that any protests could have an adverse effect on the bid and the future of NTFC. What happened? I think we all know the answer....
The Drilling Cobbler at 21:59:50 Monday July 15 2002
There is no way in this world that EVERY SINGLE person/corsortium interested in buying NTFC would walk away if the current directors are being reasonable with their valuation/requirements. The whole saga involving Fash is evidence to suggest that Stonehill & Co are not playing by the rules. The egm nonsence is another example - It looks like a delay tactic made by both parties to conjure up something that none of us know about or dare think about. Constant delaying tactics can no longer be accepted, wooley answers to firm questions have been coming from NTFC & GDS, all of a sudden NOTHING. WHO GIVES A FLYING **** ABOUT A PREVIEW OF RAUNDS TOWN V NTFC IN A PRE-SEASON FRIENDLY WHEN THE VERY FUTURE OF NTFC IS AT STAKE. Maybe I am over reacting, but it is about time that 'fan power' is utilised to its full potential in order to try and obtain the truth about the whole goings on at NTFC - before it is too late. Any thoughts anyone?
The Drilling Cobbler at 21:52:28 Monday July 15 2002
Why is it that every 'alledged' bidder for NTFC runs a mile after they have conducted negotiations with Stonehill & Co? Assuming that the GDS deal is now 'dead in the water' - and from where i'm sitting that appears to be the case - surely it is about time the club advertised for a buyer with the exact costs involved made public. After all, when one invites offers on something - wether it be a house,car or a company, any potential purchaser is made aware of the kind of investment required. I am starting to seriously believe that the current board is bad news - so many parallels can be drawn between the current goings on and those of the McRitchie era. Rumours of wages bouncing, creditors not being paid, conflicting statements made by senior club officials - ie Hodder and Stonehill - the list is endless. I feel after much consideration that some form of protest should be embarked upon - the guys in charge of the club we all love are selling us short bigtime. cont...
Anon at 21:45:16 Monday July 15 2002
For Takeover information go to http://www.studiolegaleinternazionale.com/ and follow link to press releases
pete heller's big love at 21:32:5 Monday July 15 2002
ADAM SOLLITT will spend the next two weeks on trial at Rushden & Diamonds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,looks like they're gonna take any crap thats sent to um,going back to non-league very soon!!!
An insider at 21:29:29 Monday July 15 2002
GDS doesn't have the money, the deal's gone belly up. This is old news in some respects, GDS failed deliver two weeks ago today. Ask Stonhill for a comment!
FOOFOO THE BEAR at 21:3:50 Monday July 15 2002
Children find a site that you can go and play in, this is for adults to chat about N.T.F.C.
Bazza at 20:46:53 Monday July 15 2002
But as turds go, not bad turds. Aledgedly
Anon at 20:40:2 Monday July 15 2002
both turds.
Anon at 20:39:16 Monday July 15 2002
like comparing Adam, Leicester and foofoo the bear.
to Anon at 18:54:15 at 19:31:31 Monday July 15 2002
Because you can only judge the true quality of a turd by comparing it to another one.
NTFC@2view at 19:17:37 Monday July 15 2002
I'm sorry but I can add no more. As to being in Italy, I suppose e-mails can easily be redirected. Last close season we had less worry - but look where we finished. Will it all end in tears?
Anon at 18:54:15 Monday July 15 2002
Why do you need the official shite when you have Cobblers Comments?
Anon at 18:34:16 Monday July 15 2002
anyone any questions you have my e mail pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Why The Silence now at 18:24:14 Monday July 15 2002
ntfc@2view, thanks for the update, more than you get from the club, but GDS has posted before from London, when he has had court cases, so why should it stop him doing so now, are we also to take it from your reply that Michele, who with the Rev Page are in day to day control of matters at the club is in fact in Italy?
Anon at 18:13:29 Monday July 15 2002
No let it die. Bring back the one with pink wallpaper.
Is Gareth for the chop? at 18:10:36 Monday July 15 2002
There are dark rumblings that NTL via their FLPTV subsidiary will not be able to honour a £5million payment they are due to make to the Football League this Friday. Oh dear. Should we have a whip round to Save Our Official Website?
NTFC@2view at 17:1:16 Monday July 15 2002
My e-mail sent at 4pm. "I have seen this address posted many times and decided to try it out at last. First, may I ask where you have 'disappeared' to? Panic is setting in amongst the supporters as we have just seen the best goalie in the history of Northampton Town leave and an inferior one take his place. Secondly, we seem to have a smaller squad than last year when we struggled badly and are currently almost certain to be relegated. My final question, if this takeover doesn't happen, is what exactly has this exercise all been about?" The reply, at 4:24 "My father is in the Court of Appeal this week on the Palmer (timeshare) case. No reason for takeover not to happen. Regards Michele S Di Stefano"
Equestrian mishaps at 16:58:6 Monday July 15 2002
Perhaps GDS has fallen off his horse again.
Richard at 16:34:7 Monday July 15 2002
Well M, any more news from GDS, this is ridiculous.
Richard at 16:34:6 Monday July 15 2002
Well M, any more news from GDS, this is ridiculous.
I LOVE THE COBBLERS BUT SOMETIMES I at 16:13:47 Monday July 15 2002
Despair at some of the support they attract, to me this is the frustrations of close season coming out. For gods sake lets get out on the pitch and play so then we can really have something to talk about instead of all this politcal garbage. its all very well making your points on this FOOTBALL website, but firstly there is nobody of any revelance listening, and secondly if you a posting at some of the times in the small hours, then really most of you should just grt a life utc ftp ftd
New Thread at 15:25:16 Monday July 15 2002
We could start up a new thread of infamous takeover quotes from GDS Fash and GH and BS and the club etc to see how many contridictions we can find. There must be hundreds. Also South Northants Village Cobb could be the first of found sychophantic GDS replies although most are on the official site, any takers?
Prat at 15:19:25 Monday July 15 2002
South Northants village Boy you prat, that posting and the ones before were what GDS said on the 13th 20th and the 21st of June, You are supposed to question his sanity i.e players for the club on the Thursday, wont interfere on the Friday etc. God with dimwits like you around no wonder GDS is laughing at the fan base. Try the official site they suffer your sort more kindly on there
South Northants village cobb at 15:6:50 Monday July 15 2002
If the last post is really you GDS. I say good luck and welcome please try to make my and many other supporters dream come true give us a club to be even more proud of.
Friday 21st June at 15:5:6 Monday July 15 2002
"Can I please repeat that I WILL HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER with the club but am always available for advice and backing at any time. With kind regards GDS"
R HUNTER J HUNT C HARGREAVES K WELCH at 15:3:41 Monday July 15 2002
You have to admire our cheek don't you. After all since we clawed our way up to twentieth in the table we all deserve huge pay rises!!!!!
Thursday 20th June at 15:2:21 Monday July 15 2002
"The following players are available from Dundee FC if the Manager so requires and deems appropriate: Fabien Caballero attacker: George Nemzazi capt of Georgia National side: Gavin Ray Scottish International: Lee Wilkie Scottish International: players from Italy and other clubs soon to be offered, all players at the sole discretion of the manager, regards GDS"
M at 14:55:8 Monday July 15 2002
Mailed GDS again. I will post as soon as a reply is received. Hopefully today. I must admit, this is looking grim :-(
Richard at 14:50:11 Monday July 15 2002
It all hot air as far as I am concerned, the club don't want to tell us anything, GDS is suddenly very quiet when it's down to him, I don't hold out much hope of any change from last year, both on and off the pitch, well certainly not for the better.
Thursday 13th June at 14:41:20 Monday July 15 2002
Mr Di Stefano said "I trust that won't be a problem and everyone is working towards the early July deadline, but there is no reason why the deal should not be completed by a week on Friday if everything goes well."
Still Waiting at 14:29:14 Monday July 15 2002
The Club now say that the balls in GDS's court as they are "we are waiting to hear back from Mr Di Stefano's Lawyers" so after wanting completion by the 1st July and saying it was a done deal the hold up is the responsibility of the man himself, No postings on the official site like before, No Press Comments, hardly inspires anyone with confidence as to his intentions, he's screwed up the takeover and he aint the owner yet? I am starting to wonder if he ever will be
Gazumped? at 14:14:18 Monday July 15 2002
Big Jim to be gazumped there would have to be another buyer willing to pay more, this is more a case of the "timewaster" type of deal when someone shouts load about their intention with no real plan to complete, or perhaps an "overbidder" who allows the vendor to think they will get a higher price in order to become the preffered purchaser and then when they have got them by the balls and the others bidders piss off, they offer a lesser price. Either way you would think Barry Stonhill as an estate agent would be alittle more cute at identifying this type of sharp practice
Nosey Parker at 13:50:49 Monday July 15 2002
Maybe it was the "Daily Sport"........they get most things wrong?
A Childs View at 13:27:6 Monday July 15 2002
What national media reported that the GDS bid had collapsed?
Anon at 12:48:32 Monday July 15 2002
better than hargreaves?
BIG JIM at 11:46:26 Monday July 15 2002
Jonathon Coates is a good player
BIG JIM at 11:44:48 Monday July 15 2002
We may have been Gazzumped again....
Richard at 11:41:24 Monday July 15 2002
Anyone else worried about the takeover, it sounds like the ball is in GDS nad his lawyers court, but nothing has happened for the best part of a week.
Visitor at 10:17:28 Monday July 15 2002
Is Coates a decent player? I've heard a few positives about him.
Richard at 10:2:15 Monday July 15 2002
So who else is going to sign, the club say they are hoping to add at least one more defender, we also need 2 more midfielders (at least) and another GK. I suppose we have saved a bit of money signing Harper rather than Welch but we can't have much more to play with. If Hargreaves and Coates sign, plus a quality centre back, we have the makings of a solid team (nothing more) However if GDS says he wants to win the league he will have to start investing soon.
Defensive at 9:43:12 Monday July 15 2002
The official shite is on the defensive again, this time crowing about where you heard the news about Harper from. 1st it was on teamtalk, 2nd it was on BBC Radio Northampton 3rd by text to the those rich enough to get an exclusive service and then finally on the official shite hardly a record worthy of top news spot but then theres nothing else happening at the minute is there?
nsb at 21:55:15 Sunday July 14 2002
we need to bring back wonder billy................. or perhaps the dragon would have safer hands?
nsb at 21:48:23 Sunday July 14 2002
welchy's departure just goes to sow that even heroes like welchy can be greedy bastards sometimes, we cant afford to pay them what tey want, cos were broke, but then again so are half the 72 non prem clubs after this bloody ITV thing..... cobblers players should realise that once they leave they will never go on to better things, they all end up following atkins around the country, (heggs to carlisle, woody+lilly to oxford etc etc) carlo was top scorer of the american championship watever it was and left us thinking a big team would snap him up, where is he now? oldham having fun in the riots...............
Ralph at 21:32:53 Sunday July 14 2002
Yep, Welchy is this best keeper I've seen at the club but I only go back to Gordon Morritt, my better half goes back as far as Brian Harvey though and to all the girls out there, don't worry about Adam (sans testicles) he's just a failed lollypop attendant.
NTFC@2view at 21:32:12 Sunday July 14 2002
Anon - I didn't say 'proper job', just job, because if you're the wage earner you might have looked on things differently. That's all.
NTFC@2view at 21:7:36 Sunday July 14 2002
"Logged On at 20:55:21 Sunday July 14 2002" - Semi-literate twat! If you can't read posts, why log on? Welchy is the best I've seen here, including Harvey, and is bound to be missed. There's some Walsall bloke on the Rivals' site who is a lot less than impressed by Harper! I see nothing ahead but worse than last year and the year before - unless the takeover happens. Never mind, I've missed Hartlepool and Exeter. That is the natural level for this club and most of its supporters.
Anon at 21:2:38 Sunday July 14 2002
Oh yeah and NTFC@twoview in answer to your question i haven't got a 'proper' job i'm only 17! So i don't suppose my point is really valid!!
Anon at 21:0:22 Sunday July 14 2002
NTFC@twoview: You've got a valied point there but who's to say welch will find a better club? He'll probably end up somewhere like Carlisle! I still think if you haven't got the club at heart it's not worth it. But good luck to Welchy in future jobs, I think he'll be missed by all at NTFC! let's hope this Harper's decent! - (although i've heard mixed reports!)
Ted at 20:57:30 Sunday July 14 2002
Cheerio then!
Logged On at 20:55:21 Sunday July 14 2002
Logged on, saw Ted and ntfc@2view were on the loose so I will log off again, they really are so predictable Ted says "scrap the trust, STC rules, The polls rigged cuz Ray's a Trustie" ntfc@2view says "How dare anyone question GDS, and if they do, its all lies, none of it is FACT" what a pair of tossers
Anon at 20:51:15 Sunday July 14 2002
Or 150 pointless ballots!
Ted at 20:48:4 Sunday July 14 2002
Don`t knock it NTFC@2 view.150000 would probably pay for the Kit Manager for the next 10 years
NTFC@2view at 20:44:25 Sunday July 14 2002
"Anon at 20:33:22 Sunday July 14 2002" - It's a nice idea, but it doesn't really work, does it? Do you have a job? Would you work next year for 1/3 less than last. Don't forget it's the players job, but the supporter's club. And - be honest here - can you imagine REALLY wanting to play for NTFC if you were able to play for a better club?
NTFC@2view at 20:40:28 Sunday July 14 2002
As if buses to away games make any difference to anything. Trust or STC? What the fuck - £150 000 over the next 10 years will see us alright. Not.
Ted at 20:38:42 Sunday July 14 2002
Ray, can we have a poll to decide between STC AND Trust Travel? On second thoughts you better not because the last poll was rigged by the Trusties.
Clare - T at 20:36:23 Sunday July 14 2002
I totally agree West Stand Woman. if you took all the woman out of the sixfields ground the attendance would be even more embarassing. Why shouldn't we go and watch football? Is ADAM, Leicester's view shared by many men????
Anon at 20:33:22 Sunday July 14 2002
I think that Welchy was one of the best (if not best) keeper in Div 2, but at the end of the day if he doesn't really want to play for us then do we want someone like that at the club? I say we should only have players who want to play for NTFC 100% and aren't just in it for the money.
West Stand Women at 20:27:28 Sunday July 14 2002
ADAM, Leicester (he tells it like it is) - as a female football fan I am totally disgusted at your attitude to women attending football. Did you not know that women's/girls football is now a fast growing sport. I suggest you keep comments like that to yourself in future. Here's to all women football supporters - our money is as good as yours anyday!
Ted at 20:23:44 Sunday July 14 2002
You Trusties are all the same. Bitter bitter people.Anyway will Trust Travel still be able to function when the Trust has been dismantled?
Thanks Ted at 20:16:13 Sunday July 14 2002
Thanks for the info Ted, now I know you might be on the STC bus and you find all on there amiable, I will give the Trust a ring to book up with them. I think you have just made yourself the Trust Travels best advertising campaign ever
Ted at 20:9:33 Sunday July 14 2002
Sorry I should have said buses,because they usually take MORE than one bus to away matches.
Ted at 20:6:24 Sunday July 14 2002
Actually I have only travelled on the STC bus twice.Mind you I did find them all rather amiable people.
Ted at 20:3:30 Sunday July 14 2002
He`s just taking some time out to devise a plan to get rid of all you Trusties who have ganged up against him.
Teddies at 20:1:38 Sunday July 14 2002
Ted, if the trust members are trusties does that make the STC crew Teddies?
proof positive at 19:58:57 Sunday July 14 2002
Yep some of them are still there, he just hasn't posted for 5 days. I think the reason I missed them the first time is that I had left the bullshit filter on my options menu and as such nothing from GDS or the club showed up!!
Ted at 19:57:4 Sunday July 14 2002
Looks like it`s just Trusties wishful thinking!
some of us at 19:55:41 Sunday July 14 2002
some of us have got better things to do than look for all of GDS's 55 postings, most of them contridict each other anyway, according to what I read he is already in control of the club and has made Scottish and Georgian internationals available to Kev and the Rev Page and Michel are in day to day control at the club, not to mention the exciting new banking arrangements with someone who understands the football business. Has any of this happened? in a word NO its all bollocks and serve any one right if they fell for it
Anon at 19:54:55 Sunday July 14 2002
Postings on the 2&3 July ,and replies on the 7,8and 9 July.
Some are still there at 19:49:41 Sunday July 14 2002
I had a look I think some are there and some are missing, from what I could see the last time he posted was on the 7th July, it may be that as he has been silent that the threads have just moved on without him, but it has been a while since there was any news and the Welch business lends itself to a no deal situation. I wonder if he posts on here? and who keeps putting "to contact GDS directly" ?
Anon at 19:47:24 Sunday July 14 2002
No there all still there on my computer .You must have a fault.
Anon at 19:47:22 Sunday July 14 2002
Well there you go - Cobblers fans fed a load of bullshit and yet again believed it!!
Proof Positive at 19:41:0 Sunday July 14 2002
Any one want proof positive that GDS has done a runner? Well just go to the official site and look back through the threads. Most of the pnazional (ie GDS) have been strangly removed!! Gareth missed one, a reply to a question on the egm, which tells us he posted 55 times, but when you try to find them, particularly the last few (ie "fell off me horse" etc) well, they have strangly like Mr Di Stefano, gone missing.
Anon at 19:33:20 Sunday July 14 2002
To contact GDS directly. pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
No I'm not kidding at 19:30:16 Sunday July 14 2002
anon @ 16:33, your right Kevan knew about the Stamp money a month ago, but was probably told it would be paid when GDS put his money in, he was probably also told he could offer Welchy a bit more, but then what happened? well in a nutshell, nothing, So just what did GDS tell Kevan when they met? it was it just a publicity stunt? either way we have just lost the best keeper in the division and are left hoping Harper is good enough, meanwhile we wait and wait on Hargreaves, the only strange thing is that someone has not snapped him up already. Who's gonna e-mail GDS and find out what his excuse for silence is this time? Can't be that many horses to fall off, can there?
NTFC@2view at 19:23:46 Sunday July 14 2002
Hang on. That makes:- Harper(Bunn): Asamoah, Marsh, Hope, Spedding: Gabbiadini, Harsley, Lincoln(Rickers if fit) , Carruthers: Stamp, Forrester. Do we have to have subs?
Lets start as we mean to go on at 19:20:11 Sunday July 14 2002
McGregor out what a waster!!!!
Anon at 18:0:28 Sunday July 14 2002
Im sure ted could write a thick article on janets bloomers.He seems to know alot about them.
Bexxy at 17:57:37 Sunday July 14 2002
Deadline for articles is July 31st i believe!!
Bexxy at 17:56:11 Sunday July 14 2002
You all have so much to say (im not being pedantic there either!) that it would be great to have a really thick issue to kick the season off with!! GO ON>>>>>>>>> YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!!
Bexxy at 17:54:46 Sunday July 14 2002
Can you lot please write something for the 1st issue of the new season for WALOC??
NTFC@2view at 17:50:29 Sunday July 14 2002
OK then, Gabbi. We don't have too many players to choose from, do we? And if the prayers of 50% of us are answered I don't see where we get too many more from. But we'll be OK with Sammo and Burgess back - unless anyone gets injured. Well, not exactly all right, but better than the opening day team I've just picked. And I haven't brought Danny Lowe into the equation yet.
Anon at 17:26:28 Sunday July 14 2002
NTFC@2view are you bonkers? Asamoah at right back?!!!
Ted at 16:36:19 Sunday July 14 2002
50p to wash Janets bloomers? Take you all day!
Anon at 16:33:52 Sunday July 14 2002
Are you kidding.I believe Kevan has known about the money for Stamp for nearly a month,so I think you believe what you want to believe.
NTFC@2view at 16:32:34 Sunday July 14 2002
And we can manage all season without any cover at the back, especially in the first game when Sammo and Burgess are suspended. Asamoah can start at right back, or Gabbi, with Marsh as emergency centre back. OK, he's not tall but he is willing. We have about 5 midfielders I think, plus Gabbi if he's not right back or a forward and 3 forwards, if Asamoah's not right back and Gabbis's not a midfielder. That would make :- Harper(Bunn): Asamoah, Marsh, Hope, Spedding: McGregor, Harsley, Lincoln(Rickers if fit) , Carruthers: Stamp, Forrester(Gabbiadini). I can see Crewe crapping themselves!
the george melly scotsman at 15:47:43 Sunday July 14 2002
Ted i am the new kit man,how did u guess!!!!!!! i'm on 50pence per strip i clean, good money me tinks.Bring on Crewe.
Are you kidding? at 15:26:32 Sunday July 14 2002
anon @13.31 are youu seriously expecting us to believe that the 2 reasons the finances changed are because of Frain and Lavin's injuries and not Stamp and GDS not putting his money where his mouth is? Frain would have struggled anyway and we did without Lavin all last year, whilst they are both useful additions when fit I think "Northants on Sundays post is a touch more realistic
Anon at 15:0:18 Sunday July 14 2002
now...
Ray at 15:0:3 Sunday July 14 2002
3 weeks from.....
Ted at 14:48:39 Sunday July 14 2002
Do you also have to wash Janet from the Club Shops Bloomers?
Ted at 14:45:6 Sunday July 14 2002
What do you do,take the kit down the lake ,give it a quick swill and then hang it out to dry over Walter Tulls memorial?
Ted at 14:42:2 Sunday July 14 2002
So George Melly Scotsman.I take it that your`e the new Kit Man?
The Very Best of Cobblers Comments at 13:58:49 Sunday July 14 2002
ADAM,Leicester at 21:23:12 Tuesday September 18 2001 2 0 DOWN !! WE'RE SHIT. END OF STORY. SACK ALL THE PLAYERS. BACK TO BASICS. GET RID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the george melly scotsman at 13:48:15 Sunday July 14 2002
The kit manager job is part-time so it's not gonna cost that much and it would be a bit tight to expect the team to clean their own kit.
Ted at 13:38:43 Sunday July 14 2002
Anon,you forgot to mention the appointment of the Kit Manager .That would have severely dented his budget!
Anon at 13:31:25 Sunday July 14 2002
Northants onSunday.The two events that he has had to allow for ,are the injuries to Frain and Lavin.If I was you I would give up reading between the lines.
NTFC@2view at 13:13:52 Sunday July 14 2002
"who want his money without any conditions or guilt" - What conditions? The use of the word 'guilt' is odd. Do you mean I should feel guilty for wanting his money for the club?
Actually at 12:43:39 Sunday July 14 2002
Actually oops I felt pretty relieved, and then pissed off with you for building my hopes up, remember how you feel about GDS walking away depends on how you feel about him being involved with the club in the first place, so your post was only aimed at the 30% on this site in the poll who want his money without any conditions or guilt
Blame at 11:20:38 Sunday July 14 2002
If GDS dont go ahead the balme can only be laid at one door, his!! he has gone on record as saying its a done deal, he dont give a damn that some are against him, its been the same at every club he has wooed, that some will celebrate if he walks away is a recognition that evn now the fan base is split over his involvement, I dont suppose "ooops" that you have considered that the reason he might pull out is the same reason many were wary of him in the first place? ie he was false in the first place?
fun at 11:19:14 Sunday July 14 2002
whoops u seem to be having a lot of fun with yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at 11:0:2 Sunday July 14 2002
I bet you feel pretty p****d off now dont you? Well i can tell you all that this time it was a wind up but just remember how it feels before you have a dig at a potential investor and give the bloke a bloody chance . Assuming that he IS still interested of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at 10:56:38 Sunday July 14 2002
I hope you are all pleased with yourselves now.
Whoops!!!!!!!!! at 10:55:2 Sunday July 14 2002
............ aparantly too many negative postings on here so he felt that it was not in the best interests to continue.
Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at 10:46:19 Sunday July 14 2002
Its all over .Heres to oblivion . National media reports that GDS will not continue with the deal.
Northants on Sunday at 10:33:21 Sunday July 14 2002
Kevan said in the Sunday freebie newsheet that "we were talking to Keith Welch for a long time and were very close to a deal, but the financial picture changed" " The budget I have to play with is very much like a jigsaw puzzle and we unexpectedly have had one or two events that we have had to allow for" So reading between the lines GDS did meet KB then and told him there was no extra money, the two unexpected events are 1) Stamp and 2) GDS has not delivered the goods and has gone walkabout, anyone else want to offer any other explanation?
A Childs View at 9:39:57 Sunday July 14 2002
Clearly Welchy should have played for England and not made plates, also, major coup is getting a little excited - van Nistlerooy quits United to become a Cobbler would be a major coup, Cobblers sign second choice keeper from crap 3rd division team isn't quite so dramatic!
A Childs View at 9:37:30 Sunday July 14 2002
I agree - Welchy should have plated for England. Sven and Tord missed that one. Who in their right mind would have took calamity and muffed mitts Martyn to the world cup if they'd seen Welchy play? He's have stopped that bloody Ronaldinho fluke as well!! Still, Harper's a good replacement - I can remeber countless games when he's been superb for either QPR or Walsall, lets hope we get the same! Luke Weaver as back up would also be major coup given that he's first choice at Carlisle.
foofio the bear at 23:29:38 Saturday July 13 2002
any time arsehole
A message to foofoo ADAM from Leicester at 22:53:42 Saturday July 13 2002
We're watching you.
brian of nazerath at 22:30:59 Saturday July 13 2002
this time last yr we had a pink website. thanks a lot for nothing ray
Crying over Welchy.... at 21:17:9 Saturday July 13 2002
I shall miss the man that should have played for England!!!!
I TELL YOU WHAT!!!! at 21:15:32 Saturday July 13 2002
Its a good job our football shirts have names on the back of them....... With all these new bl00dy players, i wouldnt have a clue who was who!!
Bazza at 20:29:7 Saturday July 13 2002
Glad to see my Stamp Duty quip is so popular. Just like to say, Welchy, goodbye and thanks for all the fish. (Douglas Adams )
Stamp Duty at 19:49:18 Saturday July 13 2002
Why worry about £30,000 when you have got £30m in the bank? Gary Hodders "the balls now firmly in Mr Di Stefanos court" comment in the Chron last week spoke volumes, just another ego mad chancer who likes to be in the limelight without paying up the spondooley
Anon at 19:43:45 Saturday July 13 2002
Perhaps GDS is now concened about the STAMP duty, which is holding up the proceedings along with the EGM.
History at 19:39:20 Saturday July 13 2002
Lincolnshire, looks like GDS could be part of cobblers history sooner rather than later, he will join the growing band of timewasters which includes Fash and the Italian Consortium, we must have the worst negotiaters in the world!! Trying to sell the club for far more than its worth, ie nothing and expecting bidders to pay the debts and repay the loans to the directors, wonder why they all walk away?
AMKC at 16:53:27 Saturday July 13 2002
There must be some remianing doubt over if an dwhen the GDS takeover will be completed. KB said yesterday that he wass close to agreement with Welch when th ebudget changed - which presumably means that it went down - perhaps because the Cobblers have to make provision to pay for Stamp from the existing money.they
once more with meaning at 15:19:32 Saturday July 13 2002
THANKYOU GARETH !!
Lincolnshire Fen Cobbler at 15:17:47 Saturday July 13 2002
GDS is a god if he comes in I wish him all the best, im fed up with all this rubbish on here by small minded idiots who are nobodies in the scheme of life, what gives them the experience of life or status to have a go at someone who is part of history - good or bad!!! Bring back the stocks for you lot!! Cobblers and HotelEnd till I die!!!
someone who knows who at 15:11:50 Saturday July 13 2002
Thanks for the update Gareth!!
Nosey Parker at 14:26:22 Saturday July 13 2002
If Gareth Wiltshire has lost the plot then why dont he get sacked...........the boys a fool!!!!
someone who knows at 13:47:9 Saturday July 13 2002
as I understand it teamtalk were clutching at straws about harper (as ever) and radio direones were tipped off that harper had been at the club, i believe there were complications with his signing and he had to comeback to resign so maybe the official shite was first with the news that he had 'actually' signed rather taking a guess like the other muppetts
colours at 11:45:22 Saturday July 13 2002
ano, it seems as if a lot of people tied their colours to GDS's mast so tightly that they are getting jumpy now he has decided to play hard ball, I wont be surprised if he waits until he can get the club wiyhout paying off the directors, his "view in" yesterday looks like he is watching from afar.If he was serious he would have come in when he could still shape the team, I still can't work out why he had an interest in the first place, all I know is that if it was going to happen it would have happened by now, still at least we can all pull together now around the team despite the money worries
Anon at 11:11:52 Saturday July 13 2002
Re Here it here first.They do seem tobe getting very defensive on the official site,I feel the pressures getting to them.GDS logged on to the message board yesterday as I saw his name on the View users online link ,although he didn`t post.
M at 10:30:25 Saturday July 13 2002
lads chill. We have less than 28 days to go. I for one cannot wait. Bring on Crewe
foofoo the bear at 10:18:58 Saturday July 13 2002
adam piss off fool
Here it here first.. at 10:7:52 Saturday July 13 2002
..says the cobblers official site exept the Harper deal was on teamtalk first then on BBC radio Northampton, and then Gareth caught up this morning, to add insult to injury some poor soul asked an innocent question about the Kit Man and got his head bitten off, and was told how great the media staff were when compared tp Posh's!! trouble is he didn't ask that question looks like GW really is losing the plot, the club should pull him out before he does any more damage, by the way anyone heard from GDS?
ADAM, Leicester (he tells it like it is) at 10:3:16 Saturday July 13 2002
I agree with anon, foofoo you can't polish a turd. Go away and think about it.
Inevitable at 9:57:25 Saturday July 13 2002
Child's view, the deal has been inevitable for 3 weeks now and yet we are still waiting to see the colour of GDS's money, he has 60% of the shares so he told the Chron then BS said that its not complete but its 95% then he went back to 90% and now the club just keep extending the deadline and saying the balls in his court? Wake up it aint going to happen. also leopards and spots come to mind regarding the future
9224 at 9:49:12 Saturday July 13 2002
With this squad now, my plan would be to lump it forward to Stamp, who can hold it up for our four attacking midfielders to try and thread balls through to Forrester. It's a shame that as we finally sign what looks to be a decent replacement for Stevie Howard, the only man who could cross was released and we'll be stuck with McGregor (playing out-of-position) out wide right!
foofoo the bear at 9:49:7 Saturday July 13 2002
Childs view,agree on the Hargreaves front,if you don't wanna sign then we've got to move on,and that was a very brave statement to admit that you work for a pensions company,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MK Cobbler at 9:3:8 Saturday July 13 2002
I think everyone has now had their say on GDS. It is some for the deal to be signed off and GDS put some money behind KB
A Childs View at 8:46:29 Saturday July 13 2002
...behind the new look team and, hopefully with GDS' money, have a better season than last. If, after 6 months of GDS control, nothing controversial has happened and the team are playing well, all this will be forgotten - at least I hope so. GDS needs to be whiter than white, people are looking for him to slip up - lets hope he doesn't and that being a Cobblers fan can once again become about the football!!
A Childs View at 8:44:2 Saturday July 13 2002
Blimey - a couple of days away and its all happened. New keeper sounds a good acquisition, although I'll miss Welchy's dribbles past attackers - needless and reckless - yes, but brilliant fun and great for taunting away fans!! I think we can say goodbye to Hargreaves as well - KB's words about left sided-midfielder that I'm looking to make permanent - means only one thing in my book! Still, if you don't want to play for the greatest club in the world you may as well sod off!! The EGM comment is quite right - just what does legal counsel contribute if the club can tell them that, after all, there isn't going to be an EGM. Isn't clearing up legal questions why counsel is appointed? This happens a lot, I work for a well known pensions company which got into serious trouble for telling its lawyers what approach they wanted to take - surely legal advice should be acted on, not overridden? Given that the GDS deal is inevitable I'd like everyone to shut up about his background, get behind....
foofoo the bear at 7:38:59 Saturday July 13 2002
sorry that was my post below,i'm not gonna hide behind anon like some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anon at 7:37:34 Saturday July 13 2002
anon at 22:46:37 you fool why would i want to polish a turd,you a fool and an idiot,go and learn about life and it's complications.Maybe your life is so sad u want to polish turds but i have better more enchanting things to do,so please f*ck off and get a life you sad tw*t,peace to all except the nutters(anon u know who's in your gang now).
BIG JIM at 2:45:42 Saturday July 13 2002
Just another player on trial with us Jonathan Coates is training with Northampton after being released by Swansea at the end of last season.
Gomez at 23:42:24 Friday July 12 2002
Good to see that Keith has another career to fall back on - see www.keithwelch.co.uk (although i'm not sure about the glasses and change in hair colour)
Anon at 23:13:18 Friday July 12 2002
I'll have you know anon that there are many millionaire in skeggy, from all those holiday camps, fun fairs,slot machines etc dont knock the place its a rich mans playground.
ADAM, Leicester (he tells it like it is) at 22:54:29 Friday July 12 2002
There are far to many women coming on this site for my liking. That Hannah bird for example...GET RID. I'm setting a keep women out of football campaign if anyones interested. It is only for those who accept that women have ruined the game. The philosophy is basically we don't want them WHATSOEVER.I will be honest, it is truely sexist. Bloody right!!Women, please give the men back their saturdays away from the women back.You have got womens football, that's right were zero people attend.Womens football is a joke. Just leave it and get out of our stadiums.
Anon at 22:47:25 Friday July 12 2002
NTFC@2view at 21:43:26 Friday July 12 2002 - LOL!
Anon at 22:46:37 Friday July 12 2002
foofoo, you can't polish a turd.
Anon at 22:38:36 Friday July 12 2002
skillful pacy forwards???? like Gayle, Wilkinson, Lee and Battersby??
No sparkle at 22:33:38 Friday July 12 2002
Is Broadhurst the exact opposite to Atkins tactically? Brings in a target man up front, then builds a midfield to build up and pass the ball in a creative style, wheras A****s brought in skillful, pacey, short forwards, and hoofed the ball up to them????
foofoo the bear at 22:1:47 Friday July 12 2002
if thin lizzy r their on tues me shellsuit shall become a mark of respect for their great contributions to the world of fizzy hair,peace to all (again not the nutters)
nsb at 21:52:26 Friday July 12 2002
anon i have no idea whats going on with our defense these days, all i seem to hear is weve signed more strikers and midfieders who want to score goals, no defenders, and kev was a defender when he was a player..............
Anon at 21:49:13 Friday July 12 2002
and Hope of course
Anon at 21:48:14 Friday July 12 2002
Where did Marsh and Burgess go then?
nsb at 21:47:57 Friday July 12 2002
at least NTFC@2view bothers to use a cryptic pseudonym when slagging people off, rather than being completely anon, or ike that fella in the chronic and ecle who slagged off tcmp before turns out he doesnt even exist??
NTFC@2view at 21:43:26 Friday July 12 2002
Anon at 21:32:43 Friday July 12 2002 - LOL!
nsb at 21:41:24 Friday July 12 2002
have we paid kettering the 30% of the nothing we got for adam sollit?
nsb at 21:39:40 Friday July 12 2002
do we seem to have a shortage of defenders, with frain and lavin both out? thats a back two of spedding and sammo left??
M at 21:37:2 Friday July 12 2002
yeah chicken
Anon at 21:32:43 Friday July 12 2002
That's because you make sure you are never here when TCMP is.
M at 21:32:24 Friday July 12 2002
yeah site says Welch has not agreed new terms and will not be returning to Sixfields. Must admit i'm gutted
Reserve Watcher at 21:31:11 Friday July 12 2002
Holiday at Raund on tuesday, party on in shell suits with Phil Lynott - Taxi driver, be there or miss out
Anon at 21:29:37 Friday July 12 2002
ex-Cobblers keeper on trial at Rushden. ................fortunately its Adam Dropitt
NTFC@2view at 21:27:18 Friday July 12 2002
If we lose 1-2 ar Raunds we'll be OK. The only time we've won there we were relegated. (I think)
NTFC@2view at 21:26:8 Friday July 12 2002
I don't know if you've noticed, but TCMP never seems to be around when I'm posting?
Bloke with a twitch at 21:25:25 Friday July 12 2002
Visiting minor eastern villages who play lower division football is demeaning to a club of our standing. I shall protest by clapping and cheering loudly.
foofoo the bear at 21:22:46 Friday July 12 2002
with eyes we read,look into the words of wisdom below to see if keeper has changed or try the official site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark Too at 21:22:28 Friday July 12 2002
Welchy does seem to have gone. The official site says so at the bottom of the story about the new Goalkeeper.
M at 21:17:7 Friday July 12 2002
looks that way as new guy in??
BIG JIM at 21:11:40 Friday July 12 2002
Has Welchy gone? If so can anybody substantiate the claim
foofoo the bear at 21:7:45 Friday July 12 2002
ah enlightenment strikes a blow towards,the Broadhurst one, old keeper 4 new keeper,younger,played at higher level,maybe this one will command the 6 yard box and make it his own,the old one a good shotstopper,but leadership of defense always a question.Raund a place to holiday at me thinks, ah tuesday a good day 4 fun.Will the journey of fulfilment start tues or will the path be one scattered with danger,only time will tell,peace to u all except the nutters(u know who u r)
Anon at 21:7:35 Friday July 12 2002
Had Tony Clarke been a Tory MP, the comments on here would have a wholly different tone.
nsb at 20:38:54 Friday July 12 2002
i remember welchy used to piss atkins off because he threw the ball out to the wing backs instead of hoofing the ball back to the opposition............. so what do we know of our new fella, hes 30 thats a good age for a keeper no?
blind at 20:27:21 Friday July 12 2002
when does the new season start?
nsb at 20:24:59 Friday July 12 2002
i remember the first time i saw welchy, was in the second leg against fulham, my mate steve said to me, " i like the look of this new keeper, hes more confident than turley", to which i replied " yes he looks good" just as horsefields first went in............... bastard!
Anon at 18:59:29 Friday July 12 2002
I think you will find the new keeper as good as if not better than Welch .
Gomez at 18:55:34 Friday July 12 2002
So Welch has gone - that will be a costly mistake come May next year
Ted at 18:52:25 Friday July 12 2002
Without wishing to appear sycophantic,I would like to go on record to thank TCMP for his answers to my questions ,although I do know that his past is a wee bit more colourful than the innocent picture he paints.Nevertheless I`m sorry I missed his answers last night and look forward to him joining us again.
Anon at 18:35:32 Friday July 12 2002
To contact GDS directly. pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Ted at 18:22:57 Friday July 12 2002
Could everyone please note that I only post in the evenings as unfortunately I don`t have a computer at my disposal during the day .Therefore anyone who posts in my name before 6 o`clock is an imposter.I would also like it to be known that I always post as Ted.I echo the call below for regular posters to stop changing their logging on names as I find it very difficult to know who I am slagging off.
Anon at 16:56:10 Friday July 12 2002
Did I mention baseball caps? Let's bring that one up again.
Anon at 16:55:23 Friday July 12 2002
Who needs to talk about football when we can talk endlessly about Anons, FACTs, pseudonyms and TCMP working hours! Brilliant!
Anon at 16:53:35 Friday July 12 2002
You waited all of thirteen minutes before going anonymous to slag off TCMP there NTFC@2view. Welcome to the club of Anons.
Where is GDS? at 16:7:49 Friday July 12 2002
Anybody heard anything? know what his deadline is? its all starting to get silly now
anon at 15:26:57 Friday July 12 2002
I think you will find he said trust rep duties, ie exec meetings, correspondence forums as well as the time at he cobblers, but hey why let the truth get in the way of an anonomous slag off
Victoria at 15:24:6 Friday July 12 2002
"We are not amused" nor is "one impressed" by your pointless references to diction, stick to the FACTS not wallow in the trivial
Anon at 15:23:16 Friday July 12 2002
TCMP is stretching his credibility if you believe he spends 20 hours a week on his Cobblers duties. I wouldn't for one minute dispute the hours he puts in an as an MP, but I bet Barry Stonhill had a good laugh when he read that one.
NTFC@2view at 15:9:59 Friday July 12 2002
"proving our point" Are you HMQ, or possibly Mrs Thatcher ('We are a grandmother') You are beginning to forget that the person agreeing with you is you!
Aaaaah but at 15:3:36 Friday July 12 2002
it's ok for NTFC@2view to do that because other people do it to him. Never let it be heard he descends to others depths.
Official Shite Latest at 15:3:8 Friday July 12 2002
Lavin out knee problems,(thats one less fit player, noe down to 14) We have signed a goalkeeping coach!! (but have no goalkeepers) We may or may not need an egm ( the balls in GDS's court says Garry Hodder) and the nice mr GDS has still not returned from his recent abscence/horse fall, but woory not it will all be o.k in 7 days.
keep it up at 14:50:25 Friday July 12 2002
keep going ntfc@2view you are proving our point better than we could, for note TCMP often posts on CC2, he stopped posting on here when the postings got offensive, (wonder who that was then?) He also attends all open forums and never misses a game home or away, so I think he just might be in touch with the general view of the fan base. From his postings below it seems that he has got a more balanced opinion on this whole matter than you have ntfc@2view, he is clear on what his view but he does not slag others off for holding a different point of view.
NTFC@2view at 14:11:9 Friday July 12 2002
So proud of it you posted it twice! (Not since March 1st at least Precious. You know what I mean?)
Ted in disguise at 14:10:50 Friday July 12 2002
FACT.
Heard it all before, NTFC@2view.. at 14:9:24 Friday July 12 2002
yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Try coming up with something new.
Heard it all before, NTFC@2view.. at 14:8:55 Friday July 12 2002
yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Try some coming up with something new.
NTFC@2view at 14:4:3 Friday July 12 2002
"Sycophants! at 12:45:24 Friday July 12 2002" - "There you go again, (naughty boy!" - What a very precious person you are! Tony Clarke MP suddenly appears on this board after an absence of at least 3 months and, as supporters rep, answers supporters, which is probably one of the things he is there to do. The reaction of some was sycophantic "Gosh an MP answered my question". And as for the other people "who can discuss matters without name calling", try reading a few of the posts addressed to me. And try debating as well, answering some of the questions I have put instead of saying "Gareth's stooge" or "Ted in disguise". Don't just put FACT in upper case as an argument. Post under a consistent pseudonym so others can see if you change opinions to suit the occasion or actually hold a view. I don't want your e-mail address, but Hotel Ender posts as that, Ted as Ted, The Drilling Cobbler has his 'handle'. It seems that a lot of people find this concept difficult.
Bob Monkhouse at 13:17:54 Friday July 12 2002
are you the barsteward who stole my joke book?
Anon at 13:14:0 Friday July 12 2002
just in - the Gary Hodder seven day clock - the alarm only goes off when its about to be wound up
Anon at 13:12:46 Friday July 12 2002
who leaves dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's until the very end? its much easier to do it as you are going along. leaving them uncrossed and undotted can cause all sorts of confusion. The groundsman even thought the club had been talking about a 'lakeover' deal and has planted the pitch with bullrushes instead of grass
Anon at 13:3:25 Friday July 12 2002
If I worked at the club I'd ask Gary Hodder if I could take a week off and then trolley off on holiday until Christmas
Sycophants! at 12:45:24 Friday July 12 2002
There you go again - all you are bringing to the debate is slurs and name calling, NTFC@2View. Just accept it, there are people with different views to you, people with different concerns, and people who can discuss matters without name calling.
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:35:55 Friday July 12 2002
Gary Hodder must be the only person who doesnt shudder when the doctor tells them that they only have 7days to live!
Phil Baron at 12:34:23 Friday July 12 2002
Anon at 22.26 Please explain ?.......very brave posting behing anon as well?
Anon at 12:17:34 Friday July 12 2002
ok ted.
NTFC@2view at 12:4:25 Friday July 12 2002
Sorry. It was me posting just below.
Anon at 12:1:15 Friday July 12 2002
I know that the GdS affair has only been ongoing for about a week (Sarcasm!)..... So the sycophants think it wonderful that TCMP posted on this board for hours on end. It was nice. I'd like to ask one of you, with the time to have a go at me, to spend a little effort finding the time before Wednesday he last posted on this board. It is before April 30th, I can tell you that. "Physical or mental thing or both" - LOL. Nice try Anon. People will think there's at least 3 of you posting. On the Trust committee are you? Were you the one that put the 60 no votes on at one go?
Anon at 11:16:9 Friday July 12 2002
Gareth is the Cobblers King of Spin. The Media Dept are responsible for devising, implementing and delivering a co-ordinated communications strategy for the club. Gareth's department has a number of key areas of delivery - website message board, website message board, website message board and the internet - as well as being responsible for only needing seven more days to meet a deadline. Northampton Town have developed a tradition for effective and pro-active media communications and it is that reputation which the club seeks to maintain and enhance as new website message boards present themselves. Gareth works with Chief of Spin Gary Hodder, Manager Kevan Broadhurst and Media Assistant Chris Rivett to ask for just seven more days.
GDS MAKES FIRST SIGNING! at 11:7:51 Friday July 12 2002
The Cobblers are pleased to announce the re-appointment of Kit Manager Ian Cooper. Ian previously held this role for the 2000/2001 season before returning to the club this summer.
Anon at 10:45:13 Friday July 12 2002
Anyone else think Ted is NTFC@2view in disguise?
Anon at 10:43:59 Friday July 12 2002
NTFC@2view is definitely scared of TCMP. Whether it's a physical, mental thing or both.
Anon at 10:42:23 Friday July 12 2002
NTFC@2view, have you got PROOF to back up your allegations? Should we convict TCMP now on the strength of your allegation? If so, it follows that your mate GdS is not going to be with us for some time.
Official Shite at 10:38:1 Friday July 12 2002
No.
Gary Hodder at 10:1:52 Friday July 12 2002
Only 7 shopping days till Christmas, why don't you buy that Cobblers away shirt for your loved one to open this time next week?
anon at 9:55:55 Friday July 12 2002
Official Shite at 11:15:40 Thursday July 11 2002 - "The official site has always been a joke. Remember when they launched it with the pink wallpaper? " THAT WAS YOU WASN'T IT RAY?????
You are as bad as the people at 9:32:35 Friday July 12 2002
you slag off, NTFC. There are people here who would fit GDS up as being the man on the Grassy Knoll if they could and you would be the first to berate them and rightly so. However, TCMP makes an effort to talk to us, despite time pressures and alll you can do is snipe at yhim and insinuate he has been using pseudonyms. By all means disagree with him but you are proving yourself as being incapable of ever leaving a personla slur out of whatever you say.
Poor Excuse at 9:27:48 Friday July 12 2002
ntfc@2view TCMP was on the board from lunchtime Wed to 1am Thur and said he would be back last night, I think you were around, just scared of being shown up either that or you were doing what you always accuse everyone else of doing, ie posting under a different name
anon at 9:21:13 Friday July 12 2002
Your son got a degree! must take after his mothers side of the family, big conspiracy factor there again ntfc@2view, perhaps TCMP has his people watching you and telling him when your out so he can post?
NTFC@2view at 7:44:23 Friday July 12 2002
TCMP. I was celebrating my son's degree success last night. It's funny you only come on the board when I'm out - unless some of the anti-GdS things were posted by you 'incognito'? That's quite likely I think. People were 'puzzled' by my 'How was Japan?' remark one night to one or another Anon or somesuch.
JDRT at 3:8:24 Friday July 12 2002
yOORALL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
JDRT at 3:8:22 Friday July 12 2002
yOORALL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
Anon at 0:57:23 Friday July 12 2002
Well anon, how many multi millionaires holiday in Skeggy? One it seems
Hotel Ender at 0:53:52 Friday July 12 2002
how come NorthantsNews.com have totally forgotten their poll regarding whether GDS should take over? (the question is rhetorical as I don't ever expect an answer, given that last time I looked it was 60/40 against GDS)
Anon at 0:39:26 Friday July 12 2002
So what's wrong with going to Skeggy if you are a multi millionaire if,and like the place?
reality at 0:16:34 Friday July 12 2002
It's not 'having your feet on the ground' that makes you take a holiday in Skegness. it's because it's all you can afford. If you can afford a good holiday abroad anyone with 'their feet on the ground' would take it. To take a holiday in a caravan in Skegness when you can afford to go wherever you like is either extremely stupid or wants to prove they are 'working class' without having a clue what working class is about..
Loon at 0:12:30 Friday July 12 2002
*Wont be posting on here again
DR4E at 0:11:38 Friday July 12 2002
OK I've had my say you can all go back to hating me now.
TCMP at 0:9:49 Friday July 12 2002
Sorry all must go to bed, Forgive me if I can't log on tommorrow, busy day ahead, but I hope the answers given have helped inform the debate, please be nice to each other remember whatever happens over the next few days and weeks that the only reason we are mad enough to post on here in the first place is that we all share the same passion for the club and some will be happy whatever happens and some will not be so happy, but gloating at anothers displeasure is not gratious and will not help the club. regards Tony
DR4E at 0:9:20 Friday July 12 2002
Yes, if it is that unclear whether an EGM is needed or not, I would have thought that if they proceed without one it is going to be a lawyer's dream, eg. why don't the Trust challenge the validity of the takeover on those grounds, there must be a valid argument for that case otherwise the solicitors wouldn't keep changing their minds.
DR4E at 0:6:33 Friday July 12 2002
Yeah Max is like that. The same logic landed us with Super Billy Turley in goal :o)
EGM at 0:4:28 Friday July 12 2002
Why would the club's solicitors say you need an egm and then agree with the club that they do not? I thought the general idea of legal advice is that you took it not challenged it. So now its another seven days, Lets face the facts if GDS was going to put money in he would have done so by now, egm or not. apart from a couple of platitudes he has gone silent once more. Must have fell off his horse again
come on at 0:1:48 Friday July 12 2002
Yeah, glad to see he keeps the wife in her place. I bet she would prefer 2 weeks in the Caribean
Loon at 0:0:9 Friday July 12 2002
Soory aanoon you nameless fool I ddidnt realise I was enterring a spelling compettion. I was just offering fans a little of what I have heard . But if you feel the need to pick me up on spelling mistakes then carry on shallow BOY ! Why has it bothered you so much that my English may not be as good as yours ? ( and to be honest I think your well over reacting for some reason mate because it aint that bad )
TCMP at 23:57:36 Thursday July 11 2002
DR4E Max Griggs is a great bloke, I am not a diamonds fan, bet you guessed that! but I remember talking to Max a couple of seasons ago at a pre season friendly. I asked him where he was going on his holidays, (multi millionaire, the worlds his oyster etc) and he told me that his wife had gone ahead of him to clean out the caravan at Skegness and he would drive up to her in the morning, talk about feet on the ground. A man after my own heart if ever I heard one. Good luck for the season just make sure you keep away from the 2nd Division.
DR4E at 23:55:29 Thursday July 11 2002
That other guy having a dig is not me by the way. My connection is not that fast.
DR4E at 23:53:45 Thursday July 11 2002
I think Mr Nice Guy will take you over but he won't be around in 2 years time.
just joshing at 23:52:20 Thursday July 11 2002
or else??? Growing a beard and eating a load of pies doesn't make you hard. night. night.
DR4E at 23:51:8 Thursday July 11 2002
TCMP, if you said a few positive things about the Diamonds I would probably be your #1 fan.
DR4E at 23:50:0 Thursday July 11 2002
Sorry TCMP you will have to make do with me. You're great!
TCMP at 23:48:45 Thursday July 11 2002
Plese do not knock people for their spelling or else, I will have to stop posting, I had woolen tassles on my school blazer also. Ted, ntfc@2 view where are you? I only have 10 mins left before I have to hit the sack?
Gareth/benemi/jra/cobblershire/steverob at 23:45:17 Thursday July 11 2002
I agree tottaly, with that last thread, why can't you leave the nice Mr GDS alone Happy Birthday GDS We Luv U, You moaners will drive him away, fancy, asking him questions he is not prepared to answer. As for you Mr Riches, stop asking difficult questions that we do not understand, we are official shite mushrooms, we just want to be kept in the dark, stop shining your torch of truth on us, it hurts our closed eyes
Anon at 23:45:1 Thursday July 11 2002
shame about your spelling, Loon. With respect, may I suggest that your next source is the Oxford English Dictionary.
Loon (oops) at 23:43:43 Thursday July 11 2002
When old Mr criminal finally takes over he's gonna give Broadhurst 1 Mill straight away for signings as a gift to the fans :o) So what or who should we spend the money on ?
Alvin Glitter at 23:43:20 Thursday July 11 2002
So, George 'Tony' Clarke admits to wearing Scholl sandalls WITH tassles. Not a pretty sight I bet! I've never heard of the 'blazer' model, but I hope he didn't wear those whilst prancing around with his icf friends.
Anon at 23:43:7 Thursday July 11 2002
...so it's a FACT is it Loon?
Loon at 23:40:32 Thursday July 11 2002
I have rarely posted on here but when i do its allways the truth ( or excactly what ive been told from a good source )
TCMP at 23:39:25 Thursday July 11 2002
oops sorry that was me just forgot to type the e-mail address, whilst posting let me congratulate AFC Wimbledon on their great debut last night 4500+ for a friendly whilst Koppels merceneries will be lucky to get 1000 at Selhurst park, just highlights the dangers of being taken over by someone who doesn't understand football, not even the offside rule!!
Gareth at 23:38:59 Thursday July 11 2002
Some very interesting points there. I agree.
Anon at 23:37:38 Thursday July 11 2002
Nice try, Ted.
TCMP at 23:36:5 Thursday July 11 2002
I was 7 years old in 1970, call the cops tatooed boy on the loose!! George is my family name, my dad could not get used to Anthony. As a rule of thumb just take every thing you are told and divide it by a hundred, ie every girl I kissed was a former lover, every playground scrap was a riot etc etc, it goes with the territory I am afraid, but I think my memories of Bestie stuffing 6 past us in 1970 (without the tattoos) and Bill Dodgins promotion winning side including Starling, Clarke, Tucker, Robertson, Sratford, Best, Christie and the gang, not to mention the little claret and white tassles hanging off my scholl blazer buttons qualify me to talk with some authority on the love of my life.
Labour Club Gossip at 23:23:15 Thursday July 11 2002
George Clarke M.P. According to your members in the Labour Club, back in the 70's you had a tattoo on your chest not N.T.F.C. but West Ham United surely true Cobblers fans would not have this done., back in the 70's you were called George not Tony has you are to-day, i'm told you was in the West Ham firm all those years ago how things change, can you answer this Mr Clarke.
TCMP at 23:13:39 Thursday July 11 2002
Trouble for Ted and ntfc@2view is that I said I would check back this pm to clear up any loose ends and here I am, Ted, Tom Barry sent the Trust a copy of the bid he made on the 7th March, which youare correct in saying that Barry Stonhill said at the open forum never excisted, Barry has answered in the Chron and Echo that he did not feel it was a workable bid, and I would agree that it needed fleshing out wher myself and Barry may differ is that I feel perhaps with a desire to make it work we could have worked the bid up into something workable, Ted, notorious football hooligan? no, just another Northampton working class lad brought up in the school of hard knocks and not afraid or ashamed of my past or the friends I have made along the way, i am to football hooliganism what Graham Norton is to World Championship Weightlifting. ntfc@2view my hopes of survival and financial recovery may not be as grand as saying let's push for the premiership but I believe they are a lot more realistic
Anon at 23:10:11 Thursday July 11 2002
To contact Gareth, king of spin directly: secretary@ntfc.co.uk
Anon at 23:3:43 Thursday July 11 2002
To contact NTFC Trust directly: trust@ntlworld.co.uk
Anon at 23:2:40 Thursday July 11 2002
To contact TCMP directly: clarkea@parliament.uk
The Very Best of Cobblers Comments at 22:59:37 Thursday July 11 2002
ICF at 15:39:42 Monday December 31 2001 Albon, you're dead, tosser. You're not going to be hard to find are you? mummsy thought by going ex-directory that would save you. Boy am I going to enjoy this.
Anon at 22:59:22 Thursday July 11 2002
To contact GDS directly. pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
Anon at 22:26:21 Thursday July 11 2002
Phil, haven't you caused controversy on these very pages in the past?
Phil Baron at 22:25:14 Thursday July 11 2002
Ted go and annoy another site you boring twat.
Anon at 21:17:31 Thursday July 11 2002
No that's Kettcobb. He goes in the away end for home matches.
Ted at 20:49:5 Thursday July 11 2002
Oh I nearly forgot. Question formTCMP.Is it true that when you were younger you were a notorious Football Hooligan?
Anon at 20:45:54 Thursday July 11 2002
I dont remember anyone asking you to join the Trust Committee Ted - yet another of your fantasies?
Ted at 20:42:16 Thursday July 11 2002
In response to TCMP.I wouldn`t join the Trust committee if they made me Provincial Grand Master.Mind you it would be quite amusing to see TCMP and that Riches bloke rolling up their trouser legs and tugging their ears.
RUBBER DUCK at 20:38:51 Thursday July 11 2002
Great to see Stonhill protesting at granada & carltons HQ, Was he marchinng to stop the poll tax, get the tax on petrol down or stop fox hunting. Bet he is a real swampy on the side! ! !
Ted at 20:25:54 Thursday July 11 2002
THIS ONE!Question to TCMP If I may quote one of your earlier replies." If not Di Stefano then what? well, we would have to either resurrect one of the other bids and ask them to be more forthcoming with an immediate cash input." At the recent open forum Mr Stonehill stated that no other offer had been forthcoming.Who`s lying
Anon at 20:12:36 Thursday July 11 2002
What questions of yours weren't answered then Ted?
NTFC@2view at 19:57:37 Thursday July 11 2002
Do you have any idea what he is gaining from "buying another week"?
Anon at 18:22:31 Thursday July 11 2002
You have got to admire Hodders stalling tactics using the EGM trick. He has managed to buy himself another week.
Ted at 18:16:55 Thursday July 11 2002
Question to TCMP. When are you going to answer all my questions properly ,instead of evading real issues?Typical politicion!
The Drilling Cobbler at 17:20:40 Thursday July 11 2002
Just been to the official site and - the deal should be concluded within 7days! No egm required, however there is a cunning get out clause with the possibility that GDS might require one.So there you have it. Its taken 4-6weeks to decide that the club doesnt need an egm, but it is still not known wether GDS does! 7 DAYS MUST SEEM LIKE A LIFETIME IN THE HODDER HOUSEHOLD!
NTFC@2view at 17:12:22 Thursday July 11 2002
Just read your post again Anon - "TCMP has the decency to answer fair questions put to him". You wouldn't expect a supporters' rep to do this then?
NTFC@2view at 17:8:8 Thursday July 11 2002
"Anon at 15:1:46 Thursday July 11 2002" Because the queues would have got in the way of the pitch re-laying I suppose.
nTFC@2view at 17:5:56 Thursday July 11 2002
I'm sorry I had no questions that I wanted to ask him. Cheap shots? "TCMP at 14:23:47 - I think our aim this year should be simply to survive and get through the difficulties that we have re finance." It was in reply to "EGM at 15:8:53 - to float it on the stock market in 2 years time and sell it again? Theres long term planning and security for you then." The second poster was suggesting that 2 years ownership and a flotation was a bad thing. Does that poster have the slightest idea how successful we'd have to become to even consider flotation? If that's the 'level' of GdS' ambition then I feel he has set it too high, but it is a bit higher than Mr Clarke's short-term ideas. A cheap shot is one suggesting I was 'afraid' to post when the MP was doing so.
Anon at 16:43:25 Thursday July 11 2002
No EGM required ! GH's famed 'rubber stamp' looms large over the deal documentation.... so its never gonna happen then !
Anon (NTFC@2view's best mate) at 16:24:6 Thursday July 11 2002
Notice how quiet NTFC@2view goes when TCMP has the decency to answer fair questions put to him. As soon as he is gone, NTFC@2view starts again with the cheap shots.
NTFC@2view at 16:9:30 Thursday July 11 2002
My point? Which post? I would have thought they were both pretty obvious.
your point is? at 15:36:0 Thursday July 11 2002
Just what is your point, ntfc@2view we are used to you doing gareths dirty work on this site, but this time I dont get your drift?
JDT at 15:34:11 Thursday July 11 2002
We need goalkeepers!
NTFC@2view at 15:29:45 Thursday July 11 2002
As opposed to Mr Clarke's hope we can somehow survive this season.
Bazza at 15:28:59 Thursday July 11 2002
Perhaps being wound up is all part of a cunning plan. Or maybe not.
EGM at 15:8:53 Thursday July 11 2002
of course late July and August is the best time of the year for making sure all the shareholders can make it a short notice, and as such not need 21 days, For a start who goes on holiday late July and August? the "I tend to agree" "count me in" "I also agree's" are still active on the official shite I see this time bashing Steve Riches for having the gall to ask what is stopping GDS putting his money in, and pointing out the only reason so far he has stated he wants to buy the club is to float it on the stock market in 2 years time and sell it again? Theres long term planning and security for you then.
NTFC@2view at 15:7:11 Thursday July 11 2002
And another thing on the Gareth accusations. I've checked on all the posts lately and there are only about 7 different posters doing all these anti-GdS posts, but are calling themselves different names. Which is pathetic!
Anon at 15:1:46 Thursday July 11 2002
So Frain is going to be out at least a month. Why wasn't he transfer listed at the end of last season in an effort to cut the wage bill?
NTFC@2view at 14:59:26 Thursday July 11 2002
Are you the same Anon that talked about GdS' dodgy practices?
John at 14:2:16 Thursday July 11 2002
Where is CC2?
Anon at 13:33:35 Thursday July 11 2002
also reported on www.scarboroughfc.co.uk, unfortunately leeds crown court doesnt have a web site or case tracker. It was only a metter of time befor one of our many many unpaid creditors took such action.
Anon at 13:33:33 Thursday July 11 2002
also reported on www.scarboroughfc.co.uk, unfortunately leeds crown court doesnt have a web site or case tracker. It was only a metter of time befor one of our many many unpaid creditors took such action.
AMG at 13:27:9 Thursday July 11 2002
The story about the money that we should have paid to Scarborough is now one of today’s main stories on the BBC Web-site (football section). The headlines reads “Conference outfit Scarborough lodged the petition against Division Two Northampton at the high court in Leeds after the Cobblers failed to meet a 14-day deadline imposed by a Football Association”.
To Ray at 12:39:41 Thursday July 11 2002
I'm up to 14 on I do not do polls Ray delete your cookies and Temp Int Files wait an hour or next time you log on and you can vote again. It is a poopy Poll with no real security why not do an email poll ?Still I guess you dont have enough time now the CC Board is more popular than ever ?
Rules of EGM at 12:36:25 Thursday July 11 2002
21 days is a notice period if they are all available on Day 4 then the EGM is happening then.
New Away Shirt at 12:5:59 Thursday July 11 2002
I read on one of the boards that Nationwide might pull out if GDS takes over, if this happens will the club refund the money for all those who brought the Nationwide shirt in good faith? and would this mean we would also need a new home shirt? could be a costly season
Question for the club at 11:23:29 Thursday July 11 2002
If they are taking advice as to whether an egm is needed, why dont they call it anyway just in case? after all if the advice is they don't need it they can then cancel it, but by waiting until they have the advice and if the advice is yes, you need an egm, then that will add another 21 days from that point. Someone is not telling the whole story, I smell a very large rat, if GDS with £300m can't find £30,000 to pay off Scarborough, even if it is a loan, then you have to question both his intent, and also what life under his stewardship would be like anyway?
Ray at 11:19:18 Thursday July 11 2002
Cobblers Comments - the first and still the best!
Anon at 11:17:24 Thursday July 11 2002
but cc2 is not far behind the official site in the "why bother?" stakes.
Official Shite at 11:15:40 Thursday July 11 2002
The official site has always been a joke. Remember when they launched it with the pink wallpaper?
How much closer do you want to be at 10:23:47 Thursday July 11 2002
to pinch a pun from the official shite....Gareth is now posting to himself on the board asking the trust questions? "I agree" "Count me in" "I tottaly agree with that last thread" etc etc trouble is he is asking questions re the ballot which were answered by TCMP on this board yesterday dinnertime, in fact there is more info on this board than on the club site so Ray its a case of Cobblers Comment, How much closer do you want to be?
Nosey Parker at 9:53:57 Thursday July 11 2002
Why does that nupty Gareth still have a job when everyone knows he is round the twist?
B.J.M at 9:27:16 Thursday July 11 2002
Parliamentary privilege only applies to what is send in Parliament, not to all MPs comments in general.
Bazza at 9:6:40 Thursday July 11 2002
To A6 Village Idiot, We are No. 1 where it counts, on the pitch
Hotel Ender at 8:44:36 Thursday July 11 2002
for once I agree with NTFC@2view!!
AMG at 8:41:42 Thursday July 11 2002
An Extraordinary General Meeting (EGM) only has to give 21 days notice to allow all parties concerned to make arrangements to attend the EGM. In the case of Northampton Town Football Club, the meeting could be arranged within a few days, especially as all parties concerned are within shouting distance of each other. The only holding point (the full 21 days) is when a major person(s) is on holiday, unavailable etc. Surely the club could arrange the EGM by the end of this week?
Head chef at 7:9:52 Thursday July 11 2002
Uncle Max once stepped in Backbencher, but then stepped out again, maybe this had something to do with too many cooks spoiling the broth.
NTFC@2view at 6:59:52 Thursday July 11 2002
Dick Underwood as saviour is a joke, right?
Backbencher at 4:26:3 Thursday July 11 2002
TCMP, you do not have to slander since you're the one contributor to this page who can ask questions under the cover of parliamentary privilege. How about: does the right honourable member for Sedgefield agree that Giovanni di Stefano is a person whose regard for the Companies Act is questionnable and that the Companies Act and bankruptcy law in this regard should be tightened in this regard to prevent this, not loosened as the RHM's party is proposing? I'd prefer that you stay on for this very reason of privilege and profile. more than happy to draft some PPQs. You also say that no local businessman was willing to step in, but if the rumour mill is correct, Richard di Ckunderwood offered to buy the club - true? I believe he is the "saviour" to whom you allude.
TCMP at 1:41:19 Thursday July 11 2002
Right time to go home, I will try to log on tommorow pm to clear up any loose ends, thanks for being so positive and for asking clear questions, no matter which side of the debate you are on its far better to discuss things reasonably than simply to revert to slagging off the other persons view, Whatever happens we will all be at Sixfields against Crewe 1st game of the season shouting the cobblers on, and as such need to start finding common ground that unites us rather than that that divides us, cheers Tony
Official Shite at 1:6:44 Thursday July 11 2002
I see Gareth is posting under his other names again and this time having a dig at the trust to divert attention in the same way some tried on this board, his "thats a good point" and "I tottally agree with the last post" or "count me in as well" comments are so transparent you would be arrested if you wore them in the street.
TCMP at 0:55:35 Thursday July 11 2002
as is the quality of the people any bidder brings onto the board etc etc, I dont believe we ever reached the position as a board wherby that criteria was clear, and as a consequence we will have different views as to whether each and every bid was acceptable. One of my concerns and/or regrets is that I believe that some people who could have helped may think, well lets wait until the club hits rock bottom before we step in as it could be cheaper and the quodos will be greater for being seen as the saviour. right time for a quick coffee and then I promise I will be back
TCMP at 0:51:28 Thursday July 11 2002
Sorry, dont know what went wrong there, think I hit the enter button, I will pick it up after the Freddy Question and if my last post doesn't appear I will answer his question again, Childs view I dont think GDS is O.K for the club, but I relise that if the rest of the board think differently and a section of thr fan base agree then I cannot do anything to alter that fact so I walk away and let them get on with it I will still love the club, still attend games, I wont be the first to want the team to win whilst not agreeing with the ownership of the club, I dont suppose I will be the last, thats life. BJM, I am on record more than once as saying that the board/club needed to develop clear criteria for judging any bids that came in, because there are so many considerations and so many different views, Directors loans are one of those, as is future investment in the club, as is the track record of any bidder, as is the business plan offered by any bidder to turn round the clubs finances,
TCMP at 0:41:44 Thursday July 11 2002
Freddy, I try to be objective and my view is based less on what I read and more by what I know to be prove,n having been party to information given to me, It is difficult to go into detail without starting a slanging match between what is true/allegation/ fact/rumour etc as a consequence I simply allow others to judge for themselves, as I have done and form their own opinion, I have no intention of slandering and or bad mouthing Mr Di Stefano, it is for others to judge and question not me
B.J.M at 23:44:8 Wednesday July 10 2002
Maybe that was a bit too strongly worded, but surely the directors are now desperate to get this deal completed at all costs, because if the winding up order was successful they would get nothing!
B.J.M at 23:40:54 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - would you agree/confirm that the main reason for other bids falling by the wayside is due to the demands of the directors regarding repayment of their loans? At the time of the Italian consortium offer all those months ago you were quoted as saying their proposal was not detailed enough, but the truth was that they did not want to pay the directors loans off up front?
A6 village boy at 23:38:57 Wednesday July 10 2002
Pay up the 30k and look big ,after all you are supposed to be the No 1 team in Northants aren't you?
DR4E at 23:34:21 Wednesday July 10 2002
haha TCMP nice try! On a more serious note I cannot understand why supposed Wobblers fans are having a pop at this guy. I think given your club's situation at the moment you need all the good ambassadors you can get so don't slag him off just for the sake of it. As far as I know he isn't getting paid for the job he is doing for you, can you find someone better for free?
another option at 23:33:13 Wednesday July 10 2002
I see people still see GDS as the only show in town. What about Tom Barry and his consortium - the bid that Barry Stonhill told 150 people never happened when in fact it was received and acknowledged by the club and reiterated in June. Under that bid document we would now be over 3 months into a six month work up period with bank guarantees being taken over by the consortium and their own staff being paid by them to look at ways of maximising income. The difference between them and GDS - they were not going to pay off the directors loans immediately but asked them to wait. I doubt that they will deal with our chairman who has shown so much bad faith in the whole sordid business.
A Childs View at 23:28:3 Wednesday July 10 2002
Winding up order - oh dear! TCMP - again, not having a go, but, are you able to answer the question - why do you need to walk if GDS is ok for the club? If he's not, the board must have let us down by 'almost' selling to him. You can't really have it both ways, I understand if you need to walk, you've a professional career, however, nail your colours to the mast and explain why the boards decision is unacceptable to you. All I ask is the truth, this bloke is, after all, buying the club I love!!
Anon at 23:12:13 Wednesday July 10 2002
I confess I dont know how these things work so perhaps someone can tell me..as a winding up petition has been served wont all the other creditors now join in with the court action taken by Scarborough FC?
Freddy Gilder(young_cobbler) at 23:1:46 Wednesday July 10 2002
question for TCMP:why is it that you have taken a disliking to GDS?Is it because you have met him and dislike him as a person,and think he does not possess the skills to take over, or that you have read articles about him which you consider to have some truth in them?Do you think that the money he is using has been obtained legally?IF u step down,will you continue to give your full-fledged support towards the cobblers?
TCMP at 22:47:41 Wednesday July 10 2002
tired and would rather step aside and let someone else have a go. I wish I knew why more local companies/businessman do not come forward to help, but I live in hope, and no I don't think that it is possible to commit more time to the job of director rep in the season my involvement adds up to about 20 hours a week on top of the 70 I put into the day job, but if you feel you can contribute more please do join the Trust and work your way to the top and then you can judge for yourself, on a positive note , I hope that my succesor is also able to devote the time and energy that is need for the job in hand. Have to go back to work for a bit will log on for round 3 at around midnight Cheers Tony
TCMP at 22:43:28 Wednesday July 10 2002
...view I take on him it is more his own views on issues such as Kosova and Britain's involvement , his u.k business history and the inability for me to answer the question as to why he is interested in NTFC that leave me unimpressed. Phil, I believe the Tom Barry proposal could have been developed further but I believe I may be in a minority of one on that issue on the board. DR4E good to hear you are a transformed character, perhaps Cogenhoe and Spencer could merge and become Northamptonshires second side after the Cobblers. I am Sorry I cannot comment on the winding up order business as yet as tonight on this board is the first I have heard about it. Ted, bless you I have left you till last, I know that you are not my number one fan but I still offer to you the hand of frriendship and answer your questions as follows, no, despite my misgivings and disagreement with the board on this matter, I still feel that they have all contributed as much as they could to the club, and some now
Ted at 22:38:55 Wednesday July 10 2002
Question to TCMP If I may quote one of your earlier replies." If not Di Stefano then what? well, we would have to either resurrect one of the other bids and ask them to be more forthcoming with an immediate cash input." At the recent open forum Mr Stonehill stated that no other offer had been forthcoming.Who`s lying?
TCMP at 22:35:3 Wednesday July 10 2002
Drilling, Don't worry I didn't take offence, I believe it is only natural that some will see my political role to be at odds to my role on the board, all I can say is that both in parliament and at the club I am my own man, not afraid to cause waves if neccasary and as such I have always refused to play politics with my role at the club, I think whoever is in the position will face some criticism, perhaps as apolitician I am more used to the knocks and it worries me less? MK Cobbler I too am worried about the economics, and despite the season ticket money we are still up against the wire, as I have said before it is less a case of money owed but cash flow, therefore the season ticket money relieved the debt but did not eat into the overdraft problem enough, particularly when you have no income coming in over the close season, ntfc@2view, good to see that you still have nothing constructive to offer to the debate, Rubber Duck GDS's role as a criminal lawyer has nothing to do with the
Ted at 22:16:6 Wednesday July 10 2002
Question for TCMP. Do you think that the supporters representation on the board would be better served by someone who could devote more time dealing with club and supporter based issues.
Ted at 22:6:13 Wednesday July 10 2002
Question for TCMP. You bemoan the fact that no local businessmen have come forward to invest in the club,and can you speculate on why you think this is ?Could one of the principal reasons be the internal and external politics surrounding the club and the NTST?
Ted at 21:48:3 Wednesday July 10 2002
QUESTION TO TCMP You have stated that you find GDS an unsuitable person to be the majority shareholder of NTFC,and are concerned that the good name of NTFC would be tarnished.Do you not agree that the present board of directors of which you are the fans representative are doing a grand job yourselves?With tomorrows headlines already written regarding the comment below ,once again the clubs reputation is being dragged through the mud,and what little credence was remaining has now disappeared .
Anon at 21:41:11 Wednesday July 10 2002
If that is true about the winding up order (TCMP?) then its very very worrying, cant argue with what Scarboro have done though, imagine how we would feel if the roles had been reversed. On the point about the stadium - TCMP is it true that it says in the lease agreement that the Council will have to increasecapacity should the club ever be un a position where under league rules it becomes necessary? If so its hardly a good way for the club to endear itself to the local community by having to impose a football levy on the Poll Tax to build a new stand, or is it just a ruse that Di Stefano is looking to employ so that he can buy the grund cheaper than he could today because the Council would be faced with the prospect of having to pay for extension if they didnt sell?
Barry "best interests" Stonhill at 21:28:49 Wednesday July 10 2002
Don't worry, the winding-up order is in the best interests of the club, trust me. All will be concluded, we just need 7 more days. We are 95% of the way there.
IT'S A WIND-UP cont.. at 21:25:44 Wednesday July 10 2002
on The Cobblers. Reynolds has already instigated a formal complaint at Soho Square. He did however reiterate that his sole desire was not to see legal action through the courts or the FA, but just to recover “what is rightfully ours”
MK Cobbler at 21:25:28 Wednesday July 10 2002
A winding-up petiiton issued in the Leeds High Court. Not exactly what you wnat to hear a month before the new season. The failure is that of those with money (individuals and businesses) to support our club leaving us at the mercy of the likes of GDS. May he prove me wrong.
IT'S A WIND-UP cont.. at 21:25:2 Wednesday July 10 2002
Scarborough FC Ltd served a winding up petition against Northampton in The High Court at Leeds this morning; a copy was faxed to The Sixfields at the same time. The Cobblers are currently the subject of a takeover bid from Giovanni Di Stefano. Reynolds commented that it was “sad” that he needed to take legal action, adding that Northampton would be faced with paying their own and Scarborough’s legal costs. “I was faced with no option given the behaviour exhibited by Northampton to date”. Speaking to northantsnews.com, Hodder said “We are mindful that the money is due, and when finances allow it will be paid. As soon as our investment from Mr Di Stefano arrives, all of those sort of footballing debts will be cleared, including the money owed to the Professional Footballers Association. Scarborough will get paid, just like the PFA loan will be paid.” Given the acknowledgement that the PFA is also owed money it is likely that the FA’s first step will be to impose a transfer embargo
WINDING UP PETITION SERVED at 21:23:27 Wednesday July 10 2002
Boro Chairman Malcolm Reynolds today described how he had “reluctantly” resorted to legal action in order to recover the debt owed by 2nd Division Northampton Town for the transfer of Darryn Stamp. Leading scorer last season, Stamp was illegally approached by The Cobblers in May. A tribunal ruled that Northampton should pay Boro £30,000 plus VAT within 14 days of the hearing. That deadline passed on Sunday night with no payment received. Reynolds’ calls have gone unanswered from he Sixfields Stadium and he has still not managed to speak to Northampton Chief Executive. The Boro Chairman spoke to SFC Online after leaving the Club Solicitors’ offices in Hull this morning. “I was told that he was in a meeting all day today. It is ironic that I have since found out he was at the ITV Digital protest in London campaigning against an organisation that has reneged on its debts”.
Paul at 20:58:0 Wednesday July 10 2002
Has anyone seen the official Scarborough website? They have applied to the high court for a "winding up order" to recover the money they are owed. I'm no legal eagle, but this all sounds very bad!!
DR4E at 20:49:58 Wednesday July 10 2002
I am going now, so any other messages tonight under this name are not from me.
DR4E at 20:48:45 Wednesday July 10 2002
and now a question for you. Do you ever forsee a merger between two or more local sides to give the area a better chance to be represented in the higher leagues?
DR4E at 20:45:51 Wednesday July 10 2002
mr TCMP, I am offended that you named me as some sort of cobblers comment villain like Ted or Nosey Parker. If you will notice that I have reduced the type of content which you complain about and have done so for a while. I will still vote for you, but please recognise my efforts.
Phil Baron at 20:26:43 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP......Any news of anyone else potentially taking over if GDS falls by the wayside? Has anyone besides timewasting Fash shown any interest at all?
RUBBER DUCK at 19:51:54 Wednesday July 10 2002
Apart from whoGDS has worked for in the past what is wrong with him? if he has got the money who cares, i can't see any one around here who has got any real money to plough in the club. The board cant even pay 30grand to scarboro.
NTFC@2view at 19:47:5 Wednesday July 10 2002
Well Drilling, being part of 'Poodle' Blair's Pinky Party is a pretty heinous crime in my opinion!
The Smoking Man at 19:46:15 Wednesday July 10 2002
To Anon, Yeeaahh maan it's good it' legal and ...What was the question?
Anon at 19:42:55 Wednesday July 10 2002
there has always been a culture of smoking pot at football matches, especially away and particularly at grounds with big terraces that give some degree of anonimity - like the Glebe Road end - maybe that will increase now its 'legal'...I'm told by those who partake that we actually look quite a good side if you are high while watching.
to The Drilling Cobbler at 19:40:18 Wednesday July 10 2002
Although they all own their own companies/businesses(they may not have incorporated), they may never have actually sold one before
It' prob part 3 at 19:33:0 Wednesday July 10 2002
but there must be a compromise which can be reached to resolve this crisis
It's prob. been part2 I NEED MORE ROOM at 19:30:16 Wednesday July 10 2002
I heard on Radio Northampton this morning that the takeoverwould not yet go ahead because of the legal requirement to hold an EGM. GDS said that that the meeting last week was held to finalise matters but that the solicitors representing NTFC raised the EGM issue. I think we all knew that an EGM was to take place but the reasons for it being held were unclear.It has now emerged that it is nothing to do with the trust or TCMP or anybody else. It is a legal requirement. So having established that an EGM has to be held, the question is when? When will we get the money? if the deal is done, pending rubber stamping at the EGM, then why can't GDS make a gesture of goodwill and donate or loan NTFC the Stamp money? No pun intended. If that's not possible, can a letter of intent be written to to pacify Scarborough and the FA? Stonhill has be interviewed today regarding the Digital protest, did he mention the Stamp Situation? I won't pretend to be familiar with the legal and financial nicities
MK Cobbler at 19:28:5 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - I remain concerned about the economics of NTFC. You write that every month presents a cashflow problem. Noted. But if we have sold approx 2,500 season tickets at,say, after VAT and other deductions an average of £250 that equates to £625,000. And we still can't pay the first £30,000 of the Stamp fee. Has the bank taken all the season ticket money to pay off its debt and left us with nothing? Please explain.
The Drilling Cobbler at 19:12:41 Wednesday July 10 2002
You beat me to it 'childs view' - just looked at the official site and was equally amazed that the club have now potentially found a way round having an egm! Incredible! You would have thought that a board of directors full of business men who mainly own their own companies that between them they would know the legal requirements concerning the sale of the club. Obviously not. Thanks for the response Tony - by the way although I have been critical of your involvement with the Trust and the stance you have taken regarding GDS, from an 'outsider looking in' you have got to admit that some people fail to distinguish their own political agenda with that of your own position within the trust as fans rep. I guess the same paralels can be drawn with regards to GDS taking control and your own stance? Although I readilly accept that a web search on TONY CLARK MP does not bring up any undesirable accusions concerning mass murder and corruption! Maybe I should try another search engine!
No1 Cobbler at 19:11:2 Wednesday July 10 2002
TherealslimMartinW at 20:46:15 Tuesday July 9 2002. Your comment is sick unless you have got anything constructive to say b****r off. (Sorry about the language Ray)
It's probably been said but... at 19:9:28 Wednesday July 10 2002
I heard on Radio Northampton this morning that the takeover would not yet take place because the legal requirement to hold an EGM.
TCMP at 19:1:6 Wednesday July 10 2002
Apologies have to go back to work for a while now but I will log on again around 9.15pm for round 2 of the questions. regards Tony, London, 12 degrees wet and miserable and with too much bloody work to do
TCMP at 18:58:51 Wednesday July 10 2002
Romsey, My problem is that I would not feel comfortable sitting on the board with GDS as its owner, I respect what he says about putting the club in trust for his children, but I am afraid there are still too many unanswered questions regarding Mr GDS too make me feel able to commit myself, so it is better that I stand aside, I would of course stay on the trust exec and offer help and support
TCMP at 18:55:50 Wednesday July 10 2002
...is doing his best to help the club. LH thanks for the comments, We would rather had not had to pay the Stamp fee but we now have to budget for it one way or another I hope Scarborough are sensible and that we can come to some understanding, however they are still bitter about losing the player, so it will be difficult. Drilling, Brian has always said he would prefer a situation wher one person did not own the club, and in a perfect world that is desirable, but in the absence of more local people coming forward and putting cash in as the current directors have then realistically we have no choice other than to put the club up for sale, where I disagree with other board members is that I believe the criteria for judging bids should be hammered out and made tighter in order to prevent a conflict between, how different directors would judge different bids, but its easy for me to say that as I dont have any personal money owing to me from the club so I have to try and strike a balance.
TCMP at 18:48:37 Wednesday July 10 2002
...but it is uncensored so as long as you are prepared to ignore the rubbish, then it is a valuable and untouchable source of real fans views. I agree wholeheartedly with Lord Clarks comments and I know that the new Independent Football Commision will be looking into the question of Owners/directors fit and proper persons etc. If not Di Stefano then what? well, we would have to either resurect one of the other bids and ask them to be more forthcoming with an immediate cash input, or go out to public subscription i.e £100 from 5000 supporters and £10,000 from 30 local companies (that sort of thing) to refloat the company and reduce the overdraft and creditors. Macc, I like Gary Hodder, he has the club at heart, I think it has been a baptism of fire for him since he came to Northampton, I am sure he would agree at times he might wish he could have done some things differently, or that others had kept promises that they had made to him, but I am not going to knock someone who I believe
Anon at 18:45:42 Wednesday July 10 2002
To contact GDS directly. pnazionale@tiscalinet.it
TCMP at 18:41:4 Wednesday July 10 2002
...exec members of more than 2 years standing would be eligible. I don't know why GDS does not want the lease on the ground, hes says we are getting a good deal which is partially true but by the same measure we are restricted as to what we can earn from it, ie food and drink sales etc. CP Yes there is a transfer embargo window in the close season, which is enabling us to sign players, we do still owe the PFA some money but the figure is reducing as we make payments. Fash has not been in touch with the club for about 3 weeks and unless we see something concrete from him I suggest we forget that route. anon I think the problem with the club site is that sometimes in the rush to respond to fans questions the club puts out non answers, sometimes it's better to say nothing until you have all the facts and a definate answer, but it is a new service that hopefully will improve and learn from its errors. I think cobblers comments can be great (days like today) or terrible (Ted, DR4E etc)
TCMP at 18:33:52 Wednesday July 10 2002
Sorry for the delay, got caught up in a meeting, Right here goes Mark BD We have not heard from the sponsors what their view is however I am sure that some will take a view as to whether or not they now see NTFC as a good prospect we all take a different view on GDS and so will potential and excisting sponsors. Meeting, no I have not had a meeting with GDS but if he gets control of the club I will do so in the best interests of the trust and to ensure my succesor is given a fair wind. Hotel ender, as I have said before the clubs problem is cashflow, wages are paid at the end of the month, and if the income is down (as it is in the close season, even with season ticket money) then there may not be enough to cover the payment? every month is a struggle to get enough into the account to pay the wages. The bottom line on this one though is Scarborough will get their cash but they may have to be patient. Trust member, after I step down there will be an election, you are right to say only
Hotel Ender at 18:0:4 Wednesday July 10 2002
now that David Blunkett has decriminalised Cannabis perhaps TCMP has gone for a spliff!! only joking Tony!!!!!
Anon at 17:48:36 Wednesday July 10 2002
its either a very big sarnie or TCMP has fallen asleep listening to Tony Blair drone on !
The Romsey Cobbler at 17:42:45 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - would you consider staying on as Trust rep if the majority voted for you to do so?
A Childs View at 17:28:26 Wednesday July 10 2002
...and would feel better with your clout and watchful eye keeping a check on GDS!
A Childs View at 17:27:57 Wednesday July 10 2002
Insane - GDS on the official site stating that things are delayed because an EGM is required, then, 3 messages later, an update from Hodder stating that the club is seeking to avoid the need for an EGM. What are we supposed to believe when the official information source contradicts itself on the same day!! Crazy!! In any event, it sounds as though the deal is likely to be delayed further which will hinder KB's plans for actually playing some football next season!! Oh yeah, that reminds me, it is actually a football team, that plays football, which I support!! Ten Heuvel for 6 figures - I tipped this one weeks ago on CC!! A question for TCMP - For what reason does your position become untenable upon purchase of the club by GDS? If he's ok to own the club, surely you're ok to stay - if he's dodgy and you don't want the association with him, how can he be right for NTFC? Why have the directors sold? I'm not having a go, you've done a good job as supporters rep, I'm merely confused and...
marco at 17:16:41 Wednesday July 10 2002
Interesting article in the Guardian on Saturday claiming that Arkan may well have killed Jill Dando...
NTFC@2view at 16:52:44 Wednesday July 10 2002
No goalie. 16 players. Unpaid transfer fee. Unpaid wages? Unpaid loan to PFA? A budget that will stretch to just past Xmas? Nuff Said, you're "NEWS" is SOOOOOOOOOO interesting!
NUFF SAID at 16:46:35 Wednesday July 10 2002
The United Nations war crimes tribunal secretly indicted Arkan for crimes against humanity in 1997, and after his indictment was made public during the NATO intervention last spring, Arkan was rumored to have contacted authorities in Belgium -- where his daughter lives -- about the possibility of seeking asylum there. Authorities reportedly told Arkan he would be extradited to The Hague. In addition, there are rumors that Arkan had been negotiating a possible immunity deal (in exchange for testimony against Milosevic) with The Hague through his Italian lawyer and business associate Giovanni DiStefano, though DiStefano has denied that Arkan was preparing to surrender.
NRFC@2view at 16:0:43 Wednesday July 10 2002
Atkins was always quality at valuing players. Chris Lee £1m, ten Heuvel couldn't even get in the reserves.
The Drilling Cobbler at 15:51:14 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP, I mentioned on here yesterday that I recently found a Trust newsletter edited by Brian Lomax claiming that a contract was in place to stop any one individual from having more than a 22% stake in the club. Is that the reason he proposes to make his 5 children 'trustee's - ie a legal loophole? If not, is that contract still valid? Cheers.
LH at 15:50:7 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP. Thanks for taking the time to answer questions. To follow up on a point from one of your answers that a result of the playing budget being reduced by 25% was that this would reduce the operating deficit to zero by the end of the season. I believe this is quite important as the Pro- Gds posters on here say there is no alternative. I had suggested that we cut our cloth accordingly and battle on waiting for another buyer. Credit to the Club for budgeting to do this. But obviously they had not budgeted for the Stamp tribunal !
Macc Cobblers at 15:49:59 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - Thank you for your responses, they are much appreciated. By the way, do you know if we still have a Chief Executive, as seemingly he went into a meeting last Thursday and has not been heard of since.
MBD at 15:49:6 Wednesday July 10 2002
Hotel Ender - Teflon say the gloves are in the post and that you'll be paid within 14 days.......
Anon at 15:40:18 Wednesday July 10 2002
Shouldn't we all be at work?
MP at 15:36:47 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP : thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. It is appreciated. Can you tell me if, for some reason the sale to GDS was not to go through,and another buyer was not found, what sorts of steps would the club have to take to survive ?
Anon at 15:30:35 Wednesday July 10 2002
Thanks for your time TCMP, it is much appreciated.
Anon at 15:29:19 Wednesday July 10 2002
What are you thoughts on the comments of Lord Clark of Windermere in relation to this situation, as reported in Hansard?
Anon at 15:26:53 Wednesday July 10 2002
Would you support Cobblers Comments in the future, as other message boards are being censored by GdS?
Anon at 15:23:4 Wednesday July 10 2002
Also, do you endorse the way the club is (mis) feeding us information and empty promises on the official site?
Question for TCMP at 15:18:52 Wednesday July 10 2002
Do you know why Fashanu dropped his interest in the club?
Anon at 15:17:10 Wednesday July 10 2002
So we have a nickname for GDS! Teflon!
CP at 15:8:0 Wednesday July 10 2002
Wasnt the previous transfer embargo temporarily lifted to allow us to sign some players during the close season? (correct me if I am wrong but dont we still owe the PFA money?) ....If we cant stick to the terms of a tribunal the FA could (and probably should) reinstate the embargo.
Trust Member at 15:1:51 Wednesday July 10 2002
Who will become the new supporters representative once you resign?, Does the constitution still say that only people who have served on the executive for a minimum of two years are eligible to stand for election. Has Mr Di Stefano formally offered the Trust another place on the Board? What is your opinion on Mr Di Stefano not wanting to buy the ground because the Council are 'obilged under the lease agreement to provide suitable facilities' i.e expanding the ground?
Hotel Ender at 14:55:46 Wednesday July 10 2002
In response to MBD's earlier question - WALOC FC's goalkeeper has hung up his gloves - could be coaxed out of retirement if the money was right and the Teflon deal could be resurrected. I understand GDS is also sponsored by Teflon. Also to TCMP - why have the club not paid Scarborough for Stamp yet? Given the conditions laid down by the tribunal and Stonhill's remarks that the money would be found, takeover or no takeover?
meeting at 14:48:58 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - I recall a conversation between you and Di Stefano on the official site - did you ever take up his offer of a meeting?
MarkBD at 14:32:45 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP - in view of the ongoing discussions with the prospective new owner, has the club suffered in terms of sponsorship (both in terms of income and with the companies themselves)??
TCMP at 14:23:47 Wednesday July 10 2002
As for realistic expectations? if the new players jel then we should hold our own, if new money does come in then maybe we can push on, but personally irespective of the takeover, I think our aim this year should be simply to survive and get through the difficulties that we have re finance. Our expectations are the reason that I recognise that a lot of fans will be happy if Di Stefano comes in and bankrolls the club, I myself would still enjoy watching an improved team perform, but it would be hypercritical of me to do so whilst remaining on the board under the new owner, I have my doubts as to the intent of Mr Di Stefano and I very much hope that he is able to prove me wrong. Off for a sandwich now and then to PMQ's will log back on about 4pm
TCMP at 14:15:0 Wednesday July 10 2002
Sorry Richard, missed you there for a bit. I believe the Hargreaves and Welch situations will be sorted out within the next 24 hrs. My understanding unless it has changed, is that we have asked Kevan to work within a reduced budget last year we spent around £1.7m and this year it will be cut by around 25 %. This way we should be on course to reduce the yearly losses to zero by the end of the season (although the ITV/Sky tv deals will need to be reaccounted for) I would imagine that if Welchy and Chris have not recieved better offers from other clubs or that they feel the improved offers are not enough to woo them away from NTFC then they may stay, but it is purely their choice. Mr Di Stefano as far as I am aware has not determined an amount for new players, or if he has I have not been made aware of it.
Richard Tapp at 14:6:55 Wednesday July 10 2002
ME, answer mine TCMP
TCMP at 14:5:49 Wednesday July 10 2002
LH, the way I read this is that if the other directors want it to happen, (and they say they do) and that if Mr Di Stefano is serious (and he says he is) then there is no reason why they can't complete irrespective of an egm which will simply ratify the deal. So the technical difficulties I suppose are around the basis of the deal and the transfer of responsibilities. I have personally sent an undated letter of resignation to the clubs solicitor, to come into force the day Mr Di Stefano takes control, I will keep you informed as to if it is enacted. For clarity, I also reaffirmed the Trust's right to have a representative on the board of the new company/board under the terms of the councils lease.
TCMP at 13:58:46 Wednesday July 10 2002
Sorry to cut off so short, the fire alarm went off, to finish off the egm question can I just confirm that the need for an egm was recognised by the clubs solicitors as part of the clubs articles of association, and at the time Barry S informed us at the open forum he believed that that was not the case, he was not trying to mislead anybody. Also the trust ballot which is still open is to inform our vote at any egm, I suspect if any of the other polls are anything to go by that the result will be close either way, however it would not effect the outcome of the meeting as the trust have alimited shareholding, hope this helps, who's next
LH at 13:53:12 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP. Do you think the takeover will actually happen even if an EGM is called ?
TCMP at 13:45:27 Wednesday July 10 2002
Double Standards, the club write to me at home in Northampton, I am in London at present but as of yesterday morning 7-7-02 I had not recieved a notice
Richard at 13:45:20 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP, when will we have any news on Chris and Keith and what will be the realistic aims of NTFC for the coming season if GDS takes over, ie will we have the spending power of a Fulham or Cardiff straight away?
Double Standards? at 13:30:45 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP, has an EGM been called yet? - earlier today on Radio Npton GDS said that it may have been called last week.
Paul S at 13:26:28 Wednesday July 10 2002
From BBC Web Site:- Sheffield United have completed the signing of striker Laurens Ten Heuvel from Dutch second division side Telstar for an undisclosed six-figure fee.
TCMP at 13:22:58 Wednesday July 10 2002
In response to requests for more information, I am more than happy to try to answer questions from those all concerned about latest developments at the club. So fire away. But before you do so, can I make a plea for all of us to take a step back from the individual positions that we have championed (even myself) and remember we are all supporters of NTFC and all of us wish to see the club prosper. The level of abuse aimed at individuals and groups, on this board at times has been totally unacceptable. Any abusive questions will be left unanswered. I as an individual remain opposed to the takeover of the club by Mr Di Stefano, but I recognise and respect the view of those who are both 100% behind him and also those who share my general concern, but are willing to give him a chance in the absence of any other bidder. The only other ground rules I set are that I will respect the confidentially of the club where I feel it appropriate to do so, So over to you
So will it be... at 13:17:50 Wednesday July 10 2002
Ray Clemence or Ray Clements?
MBD at 12:45:59 Wednesday July 10 2002
I'm sure WALOC FC's keeper would be available and that a sponsorship deal with Teflon could be agreed if his gloves have rotted since his last match.....
George Bucks No1 Cobbler at 12:32:17 Wednesday July 10 2002
Read on teletext last night that we are interested in Oxford's young Goalkeeper Richard Knight. But so are a lot of other clubs. And Yes it does look like Parkin will go to Swindon Town. I was also thinking of going to first away match v Wycombe, but i am worried that I might have to bring me goal-keeping gloves along with me, if we dont A keeper soon
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:49:29 Wednesday July 10 2002
Too Simplistic - fair point about the setting up of a new supporters body, ie Sixfields Travel Club. Having said that though, surely that is all it is - a travel club. Regarding the information coming out, I cannot comment as I am no longer a member - the same can be said about the new members on the exec. I can only look at the bottom line - the money raised - and I critisise no individual when I make the point that this figure is presently very low. I do not even know any of them. Regarding Tony Clarke, yes he is a fan and clearly shares the same passion for NTFC as the rest of us. He is an approachable, affable guy, but for the reasons I wrote earlier I do not think he is able to fulfull the duties of supporters representitive as well as someone who is not a public figure and who has more time to invest in the job. Someone stated yesterday that he is never to be seen on the 'terraces' - I have seen him in many 'away end' over the years so I would never question his level of support.
Another Real Question at 11:12:55 Wednesday July 10 2002
Does Sam Parkin think he'll score 21 goals this season?
Real Question at 11:10:43 Wednesday July 10 2002
How many people have CC's as their Home Page ?
Billy at 10:55:30 Wednesday July 10 2002
I still have TCMP's phone number I will ring him and ask him to come on the board, he will probably not want to get involved, seeing all the crap thats around, but as me dad said "If you dont ask"
Agenda's at 10:42:23 Wednesday July 10 2002
Some people on here seem to have hidden (or not so hidden) agendas, I smell a very big rat, someone is acting politically but it doesn't seem to be the Trust, Brian Lomax, Tony Clarke etc but simply those who want to take cheap pot shots at them
Claret Man at 10:41:15 Wednesday July 10 2002
The trust and lomax and clarkew should go that contracts that is stopping GDS from taking over should go and we should have his cash. i am not a trust member but i do support it, but sometimnes things get old and useless, they loose there charm and dignity so just bow out now and don;t make a fuss.
Anon at 10:40:33 Wednesday July 10 2002
TCMP, WHERE ARE YOU???? WE HAVE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, WE ARE CONCERNED AT THE FUTURE OF THIS CLUB, YOU ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVE, WELL COME ON, MR REPRESENTATIVE, COME AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS!!!!!!!
Fullness Of Time at 10:39:27 Wednesday July 10 2002
The official Shite said yesterday that the egm would be called "In the fullness of time" whatever that means. Whilst I am on can say that I am afraid that some of the comments on this board of late are becomming nothing but personal attacks on individuals who are not able to easily respond and supporters would do us all a favour if they acted with a little more humility.
Anon at 10:38:11 Wednesday July 10 2002
Maybe we should stand outside Stonhill's Estate agents office and stop people going in till he comes out and tells us what the hell is going on.
NTFC@2view at 10:37:31 Wednesday July 10 2002
Anon. I like it!
Too Simplistic at 10:35:49 Wednesday July 10 2002
Driller I think your analysis is far too simplistic, I dont think the trust has diminished over the last couple of years, if anything it has grown, it hit the rocks about 4 years back when it's main purpose, ie raising money to save the club was complete, just lately though it seems to have refreshed itself with new blood on the exec and good information coming out to the membership. The real politica has been that some on the board have always refused to accapt their presence, so much so that they were prepared to assist the setting up of a rival to divide and rule the fanbase (seems like it has worked) add to that the fact that the club's media staff do all they can to deny the trust any publicity and its no wonder that people see problems. Even now when the club should be in the firing line people post anti trust ranting to deflect attention from the real issues. Finally I dont think Tony Clarke being a Labour MP has got anything to do with anything, he's just another fan.
AMKC at 10:34:26 Wednesday July 10 2002
Interesting spin on the official site report on this mornoing's GDS interview on Radio Northampton. I thought I heard GDS say that notice of the EGM was served last week - the official sight says he said it will be done as soon as possible.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:5:13 Wednesday July 10 2002
Anon, Northamptons supporters trust DID work at the beginning and raised alot of money in its first 2 years when Brian Lomax was the 'main voice'. I do not share BL's politics before I get accused of being a 'lefty', therefore it has nothing to do with actual political thinking why I do not think the current representitive director is unsuitable. It is more to do with the fact that I do not believe a front line politician of ANY political party can unite a huge base of football supporters. Firstly, as has been proving with the GDS bid, he is clearly unable to seperate his 'day job' with that of his responsibilities to the trust/NTFC. Secondly, many people have turned against the trust because it is run by a Labour MP - and for no other reason. Thirdly, he does not have the time in his life to be able to give the job his full committment. The level of fundraising is now so low - as is the activity levels - also they have lost more credibility with the recent poll concerning GDS.
Anon at 9:56:13 Wednesday July 10 2002
Rumours that NTFC@2view is set for a centre-midfield role are unfounded. Broadhurst was told that he would add bite and venom to the team, but he does not require a "talker" on the pitch at this stage. A worrying ability to alienate himself from the rest of the dressing room further decreased NTFC@2view's chances.
A little birdie told me.... at 9:51:31 Wednesday July 10 2002
Ray is a half-decent goalkeeper and may feature in some of the pre-season friendlies.
Anon at 5:46:19 Wednesday July 10 2002
At last, someone has the balls to question what exactly Tony Clarke has done for the club. Answers on a postcard please. A free seat, Commons footie trips to Japan, kickabouts with the celebs, big publicity trip - nay not our Tony surely? Obviously not close enough to the real Tone to tug Bernie Ecclestone's shirt strings. And I suppose the Hinduja brothers would be unacceptable to yer average politically correct Cobblers fan.
Anon at 1:9:32 Wednesday July 10 2002
Supporters Trusts can work if they are run the right way, as has been seen at Bury, Chesterfield to some extent Lincoln and in a slightly different way Wimbledon. Maybe our Trust should refocus itself - It may be needed as Di Stefano seems to have been taking lessons from Fashanu in taking ego trips without doing anything to help the club when it matters. I also heard that if a takeover didnt (or doesnt ) happen then the club would have to go semi professional in order to survive next season.
enough is enough at 23:50:10 Tuesday July 9 2002
Ted we have had to put up with your anti trust bollocks for night after night, dont you get the message? we dont care, what we want to know is what is happening at the club, so go and do gareths bidding on the official site where your sychophantic ramblings will be better recieved.
Anon at 23:26:6 Tuesday July 9 2002
Nominate Ray for Chairman!!
Spot on Seems To Me. at 23:3:18 Tuesday July 9 2002
Has Ted been sent here to deflect interest from the real issue. Forget the trust, they've had their time and their say. the true issue is whether Northamptoin Town Football Club will be in a fit position to start the coming season and just what the hell is going on this GDS deal. Can anybody give a straight answer to either question or do we have to put up with a load of irrelevence about the whys and wherefores of the trust? Its the club that really counts, not bitching about supporters groups because one will exist withpoout the other but the same can't be said vice-versa. Think of the bloody club for once and not grudges about other supporters you disagree with.
Real News at 22:51:59 Tuesday July 9 2002
GDS on the official site says he can't (read that as wont) intervene until all the legal technicalities are done, ie the egm 21 days away from when it is called even though it has not been called yet. In other words, let the club go to the wall and into administration and step in and make a cheaper offer, I suppose it serves the greedy bastards on the board right, but it also shows GDS don't give a toss about the club but just wants a cheap business deal. PS anyone want to play in goal next Tuesday?
Seems to me at 22:44:8 Tuesday July 9 2002
seems to me that some people aree trying to deflect attention from the lack of info coming from the club/GDS camp
what political stuff? at 22:42:45 Tuesday July 9 2002
Ted don't get the unpolitical bias comments, fromwhat I know of the trust the exec represent at least 3 or 4 different political views if not more? I remember Dave Linnel raging against Brian Lomax over the use of the word chair instead of chairman. Tony Clarke may be a different matter he is of coarse political but I can't remember him using politics in relation to trust/football business. Ted on the other hand though seems so overtly political he seems to be angling for a party political broadcast on behalf of the Sixfields Travel Club Party. Football is partly politicaln it has to be itsn part of life, so just get on with it
SAD at 22:35:42 Tuesday July 9 2002
So the club is going down the pan and all Ted can worry about is slagging the trust off, well you carry on old chap, cuz nobodies listening, I don't give a shit about the trust ballot 60-40 or 40-60 still shows the fans are split and instead of driving wedged between them and slagging off people like Brian Lomax and Tony Clarke who have done more for the club in their respective roles than ted can ever dream, we should be demanding the truth about the takeover and working out where we go from here and trying to get all the fanbase, be it the 40% or the 60% or the 60% and the 40% if you believe the chron, rivals site or rays poll etc Ted I am afraid it is time for unity and from what I read you ain't got nothing to say on that subject old mate
Ballot at 22:28:41 Tuesday July 9 2002
official I heard the ballot was 60% 40 % against, but some whingers said they did not get avote. shows how many untruths become truths when the club give us no information
Ted at 22:22:17 Tuesday July 9 2002
As interesting as it is I don`t want to comment on earlier posting regarding the ballot until I see official notification.What I will say however is that not since 1992 has there been such a need for a supporters association ,totally politically unbiased to unite the whole fan base of Northampton Town FC
Good point. at 21:39:47 Tuesday July 9 2002
That's a good point Ted, if i won 10 million on the lottery this Saturday, me a home & away loyal fan, would the Trust be against me becoming Chairman, & ploughing my millions in???
Home & Away Fan (for 50 years) at 21:32:9 Tuesday July 9 2002
Mr Clarke is suppose to be repsenting the fans, does he go in the fans bar No, does he sit behind the goal on away games No, Does he communicate with the fans at home games No. We dont see Mr Lomax very often at cobblers games now, because he is too busy setting up trusts around the country and getting his Free meal tickets we only see him at Sixfields when he has not had a free ticket to go some where else. Has for Chairman Mr David Linnell of the Trust nobody see's him at open forum's, or at the matches, i dont think these are true supporters, just politcal minded people in it for what they can get. this is a view of a supporter of N.T.F.C.
Poncey Bastard at 21:30:29 Tuesday July 9 2002
Don't know about you but I'd welcome Harold Shipman if he could put a bob or two in up front.
TRUST UP DATE (TRUTH) at 21:21:56 Tuesday July 9 2002
60 / 40 IS THE RESULT OF THE BALLOT IN FAVOUR OF THE TAKEOVER FROM THE TRUST MEMBERS (THIS IS THE REASON WHY IT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE PRESS) MAYBE THE EXCUTIVE COMMITTEE HAVE GOT EGG ON THERE FACE NOW. (GOOD BYE MR CLARKE) FAIR WELL TRUST 300 MEMBERS AND FALLING
6FIELDS STRANGLER at 21:20:17 Tuesday July 9 2002
The chances of an intelligent Trust luvey, coming on here & talking sence--VERY SLIM.
TherealslimMartinW at 21:4:6 Tuesday July 9 2002
And one hearfelt plea: "Please Keith Welch stay." One thing's for sure if he had been between the sticks against Brazil we would not have seen a Ronaldinho goal! Hee hee.
TherealslimMartinW at 21:4:5 Tuesday July 9 2002
And one hearfelt plea: "Please Keith Welch stay." One thing's for sure if he had been between the sticks against Brazil we would not have seen a Ronaldinho goal! Hee hee.
TherealslimMartinW at 20:46:41 Tuesday July 9 2002
Oh my god Hunty has gone. What next suicide bombers destroyer the World Trade Centre... ahhhhhhh!
TherealslimMartinW at 20:46:15 Tuesday July 9 2002
Oh my god Hunty has gone. What next suicide bombers destroyer the World Trade Centre... ahhhhhhh!
Ted at 20:41:44 Tuesday July 9 2002
I`ve been called a Prat , Idiot and Dickhead tonight ,but can anyone come on here in an intelligent way and argue the case on behalf of the Trust.?
Ted at 20:31:50 Tuesday July 9 2002
If you go on the Rivals message board and read the post at 20.17 ,you will read about a lifelong Trust member who is totally dissillusioned with the Trust and what it now represents.
Ted at 20:20:24 Tuesday July 9 2002
So how on earth was the club ever going to progress with lefty Lomax placing a contract that would refuse anyone throwing millions into the club for a majority shareholding.?Even if it was a lifelong Cobblers fan from Far cotton,who chanced upon 10 million quid on the lottery..This is the kind of political idealism that has stopped this club from fullfilling its potential! Now its clear for everyone to see!
HELP at 19:54:23 Tuesday July 9 2002
We as fans are being fed bulls**t and are just about fed up with it all. How can we allow this to continue without showing a bit of solidarity? As suggested before perhaps we should pay Hodder and sixfields a visit and protest against this charade. What have we all done to deserve this shoddy treatment?
The Drilling Cobbler at 19:53:8 Tuesday July 9 2002
I am presently in the process of moving house. Whilst sorting through some draws yesterday I came across a 'trust newsletter' from around 1994 where Brian Lomax stated that a contract was in place to stop any one individual from having a stake of more than 22% in the club! I am starting to wonder wether this contract is still valid, hence why the takeover seems to have lost all impetus. The Stamp escapade is rather worrying - once again the 'media' are informing us of the goings on at NTFC before the club itself, and as soemone pointed out earlier who really cares about Harsleys aspirations for the new season and the away shirt when we have not even got a goalkeeper! And who in their right mind is likely to subscribe to 'Cobblers World' in the current climate? Over 2000 season tickets sold and they cannot even afford a 30k transfer fee. They have shot themselves in the foot so many times recently it has become a complete farce. No 'big' question is ever answered.
Anon at 19:49:34 Tuesday July 9 2002
I was told about STAMP the morning the decision was issued. Until such time as the LEGAL formalities are properly completed it is sad but I cannot intervene. For my part I have been ready since JUNE 6th and it was only last week when NTFC solicitors hit us all with the bombshell of the EGM which must be held. We are all doing what we can. I have no idea about anyone reporting anyone anywhere. However, this matter is now almost concluded and no STAMP matter will impede this. It is however, a matter that is outside my responsibility NOW and am as such not able to intervene. As the saying goes, if push comes to shove I will obviously NOT allow NTFC to "go down the pan" as neither would the directors/shareholders who have all last week supported the club again. The STAMP matter was before I was even interested and we will do all possible WITHIN the law and in compliance with the Companies Act
Ted at 19:48:44 Tuesday July 9 2002
Its just blind loyalty that stops you from understanding. Its either support the Takeover or the club will die !
BOTH at 19:44:57 Tuesday July 9 2002
Ted, I and many more like me support both, somehow I think you might hold a different view
On What Ted? at 19:43:56 Tuesday July 9 2002
What were they wrong on Ted? was it aloowing the fans to have a voice and a say at the open forum? or about daring to suggest that the takeover might just not be everything its cracked up to be? Perhaps they were wrong in saying at the open Forum that they think an egm might be needed, only to be told it didn't and accepting it and then to be told it is? Perhaps though they are just simply wrong because you are so perfectly right and the club and GDS have been so tottaly upfront with us the whole time? Dickhead, keep up the good work you do your cause a great disservice and long may it continue
Ted at 19:43:2 Tuesday July 9 2002
ALL YOU OUT THERE.Do you support the Trust or the future of NTFC?You can`t support both!
Ted at 19:39:26 Tuesday July 9 2002
You might as well face it .The Trust is finished! They can however bow out with a certain degree of dignity and admit that they have been so wrong.
Ted at 19:38:12 Tuesday July 9 2002
Thats another thing ! Wasting funds on pointless ballots.
PRAT at 19:34:55 Tuesday July 9 2002
Ted you are now making it up as you go along, the Trust or for that matter any single shareholder of the club can call an egm, its either needed or needed and will form part of the constitution of the club. I know its suits your warped anti-trust brain to find a reason to blame them but in doing so you just make yourself look more stupid than you appear ,if thats possible
Bazza at 19:31:18 Tuesday July 9 2002
Rodders, once againI coudn't agree more. A Childs Veiw, Who's Joking!
UPDATE at 19:30:14 Tuesday July 9 2002
The club are now saying about the GDS Deal the following (and no I am not making it up really) They can't tell us "Until something DEFINATE has happenned, not saying that it might or might not have" What the frig does that mean? has something or has something not happened or not? They dont know when they can tell us if an egm will be called even though they confirm they need one and GDS can't or won't say whether there is any money until it has!! GDS and the club seem to be contradicting each other right there on the club site and Gareth tells us he cant tell us anything unless something happens which might or might not have happened but he can't tell us!! am I going mad or is the club, GDS Gareth, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all taking the piss out of me
Ted at 19:29:53 Tuesday July 9 2002
I will repeat again.With the Trust not sanctioning the Takeover(even though they are are a minority shareholder.)This has forced the club acting on advice from their solicitors to call an EGM thus delaying the takeover and much needed injection of funds.The only way the Trust can come out of this with any credit is if they about turn and accept the inevitable.
Anon at 19:22:38 Tuesday July 9 2002
Please send any comments to Anthony Collett at trust@ntlworld.co.uk
I have heard it all now at 19:16:6 Tuesday July 9 2002
Ted , is there anything wrong on this planet that you dont blame the Trust for? the trust ballot is not the reason for the egm and Stonhill and GDS have both said that they are going ahead irespective of what the result of the trust ballot is, so in many ways the ballot is a waste of time. The gds money should be in place now and your nonsense about "if the trust had done this" or "if the trust had done that" is bollocks. Rodders, with respect mate, ( as I don't think you of the same elk as Ted) unless we get this sorted and unless fans do something through the trust, stc or the independents or as individuals then there will be no club left for the real fans as you call them to go and follow.
Ted at 19:14:55 Tuesday July 9 2002
I would have thought that my comment at 18.19 would by now have caused outrage and condemnation form the Trusties.Do I sense by their silence that even they are starting to believe that what I say is true ?
A Childs View at 19:5:45 Tuesday July 9 2002
I like Bazza's joke - funny!!! What a shambles, reported to the FA - AGAIN!!! Has 7 days elapsed yet from Hodder's last update saying the deal will be done in 7 days? It's getting desperate - I'm beginning to wonder if the club will exist long enough for me to see my 23 home games next season!!! Things are desperate and confused, the deal must be concluded very soon.
Rodders at 18:49:32 Tuesday July 9 2002
Absolutely spot on, Ted! The real fans tend to be the ones who travel home and away without involving themselves in the political side of it all. As a life-long loyal fan all I ask is for the club to be well run, reasonably ambitious and that they keep us properly informed. Is that too much to ask?
Anon at 18:47:14 Tuesday July 9 2002
Anyone for a demonstration outside Sixfields?
Anon at 18:45:35 Tuesday July 9 2002
Never mind! "Cobblers boss happy with training progress and Harsleys glad to be a Cobbler"
The Archers/Cobblers at 18:44:53 Tuesday July 9 2002
In 10 years if t