Cobblers Comments
NOVEMBER 2002
ozz at 22:09:26 Saturday November 30 2002
hows the cricket going.?
Mark Too at 22:04:30 Saturday November 30 2002
Having read on the Official site that we didn't have a shot on or off target can anyone who was at the game confirm this? Surely this is a first, to not have a shot a goal at all?
Anon at 21:44:28 Saturday November 30 2002
RDFC 2 BRISTOL R 1
Macc Cobblers at 18:43:18 Saturday November 30 2002
Remember the name Mr.Kaye - if he is ever brave enough to visit Sixfields remember to give him a very, very warm welcome. He's done this to us before - and if we are not careful he will do it to us again!!!!!
He seemed to set out with the intention of sending Gabbi off - and whilst Gabbi did present the ideal opportunity with a poor challenge borne out of sheer frustration, Gabbi was actually more sinned against than sinner, as all the rough treatment handed out by the Wigan players went totally unpunished.
After Gabbi was sent off we get Stamp booked for the audacity of heading a Wigan players boot - have to look that one up in the rule book !
Today we played very well defensively with Sammo and Burgess outstanding, and whilst at times Wigan played the ball around they never really looked all that threatening.
Anon at 17:08:46 Saturday November 30 2002
FT. Wigan 1 Northampton 0 Roberts 37
Anon at 16:32:23 Saturday November 30 2002
Wigan 1 Northampton 0
Roberts 37
Anon at 15:45:40 Saturday November 30 2002
score?
9224 at 13:17:04 Saturday November 30 2002
More on the defence. Paul Wilkinson, not playing David Seal, not playing Mickey Warner, Paul Wilkinson, releasing David Seal, Potter from WBA, not playing Chris Greenacre, Paul Wilkinson, selling Woody, selling Razor, hoof, ruining Ali Gibb, Laurens ten Heuvel, the Yank from Carlisle, Paul Wilkinson.
Shock-Headed Peters at 09:54:25 Saturday November 30 2002
Now they were a great band.
Shock-Headed Peter at 09:24:58 Saturday November 30 2002
I love ricicles. They are twice as nice as bicycles.
LH at 08:52:31 Saturday November 30 2002
We were getting him on a months loan to cover for Rickers right mid ,
but he looked at McGregors hair & realised he couldnt compete.
Anon at 08:16:07 Saturday November 30 2002
What David Beckham rumour?
David Rennie at 08:14:11 Saturday November 30 2002
It's all my fault!
Defence at 21:56:45 Friday November 29 2002
Let's start preparing the case for the defence. I'll begin with:- Paul Wilkinson, the 'stars and stripes' relegation kit, not playing Mickey Warner, Paul Wilkinson, Potter from WBA and most other loan signings including ten Heuvel, the Yank from Carlisle, Paul Wilkinson. Any other ideas? (With that lot alone he owes us double what we owe him.) Anyway, if I got sacked for being crap, I wouldn't get payed my wages for ages afterwards. Bastard!
Anon at 19:05:01 Friday November 29 2002
Representing Atkins in court is Giovanni Di Stefano
amionthewrongsite at 17:24:52 Friday November 29 2002
lest get back to talking about the cobblers and less bitching.....i read on the Wigan FC site that their manager feels its the biggest game of the season for them....lets hope we can play at our best unlike last seasons trip which was most forgettable.
Come on lads !!!!!!!!!!
Anon at 17:02:25 Friday November 29 2002
I'd be very surprised if KW is bitter.
Anon at 12:56:15 Friday November 29 2002
what is this court case all about? i seem to have missed something somewhere
Anon at 12:02:01 Friday November 29 2002
Nice to see that Ian Atkins' court case is being backed by the LMA!!! Who is top-dog in the LMA? John Barnwell! Not that this case is two bitter, sacked, ex-managers trying to get revenge instead of seeking an amicable solution - when does Kevin Wilson join them?
Anon at 11:21:00 Friday November 29 2002
when did Ted do that post?
LH at 11:13:08 Friday November 29 2002
Ted. Congratulations , for a) A sensible post . b) Not mentioning the
Trust !
Black homosexual asylum seeker at 07:55:12 Friday November 29 2002
Ted, look i still love you,cheeky
Anon at 07:50:30 Friday November 29 2002
i go to 23 home & away games a season + any cup games george. Surely that entitles me to some "cheaper" tickets more than you.
Full house at 22:54:32 Thursday November 28 2002
Ted, just shut up.
Ted at 22:35:22 Thursday November 28 2002
Brilliant-I'll say one more piece on the subject.I detest people like you much more than blacks, browns, yellows,asylum seekers,gypsies,
gays,lesbians,transexuals,transvestites and hermaphodites.If that makes me a bigot,so be it.
Anon at 22:28:26 Thursday November 28 2002
In many ways Ted is right (there I said it). We do not want discimination in this society - equal opportunities for all - white, black yellow, fat thin or even Ted shaped.
Brilliant at 21:54:42 Thursday November 28 2002
Brilliant Ted, you start off well enough by saying your not going to dwell etc and then use the rest of your last post proving what a nasty racist homophobe you really are so the homesexual community are all deviants are they? Walter Tull was only recognised because he was black was he? I suppose you would prefer a nice white war hero like Edgar Mobbs wouldn't you? The facts are there for everyone to see in your posts. Your a nasty little bigot. It's a fact
Full house at 21:52:43 Thursday November 28 2002
Hey Ted, how about single mothers. Should they receive benefits in front of economic migrants, or should travellers have priority? The disabled don't exactly contribute much either, should we cut their benefits too? If the firemen carry on striking, the doctors and nurses can have a pay cut as all the potential patients will burn and be beyond treatment
Is it a plane? Is it a bird? No, at 20:52:19 Thursday November 28 2002
It's a fact! Ted says.
Dimba Stards at 20:50:52 Thursday November 28 2002
Ellis is not right for this club. Who is then, you ask? The next bidder - until he makes the bid that is, then he's not the right one. Admit it, this begging bit's more us than finacial stability, isn't it?
Ted at 19:45:19 Thursday November 28 2002
I'm not going to dwell on this subject as you are right,this is a football site.However I do need to put the record straight for those on here who take political correctness to the extreme,and are so quick to label anyone who doesn't raise the red flag.I repeat I am not a racist.I welcome anyone in this country of any colour or race who is being persecuted or is in danger in his own country,and is prepared to integrate in our society.However there are many people here who shouldn`t be here and have no intention of integrating in our society,infact they are here to exploit it.These people are invaders,equivalent to the invaders that my ancestors so bravely fought against in the war.Regarding homosexuals-Homosexuality is a deviance,however I am not one to cast the first stone.Nevertheless no person should get preferential treatment for being a deviant, and that is what is happening in many left wing controlled councils .It's a fact! Finally with regard to Walter Tull,no I'm not in favour of the memorial.Not because of my denial that he was a hero,but for the fact that he has been singled out just because of his colour.This is discrimination against all the other brave men who fought for our country.As I said yesterday,many who are so quick to accuse people of racism actually create racism by their false perception of a quote.A dangerous thing to do,as people in the middle ages were burnt at the stake for heresy on the evidence of a perception of a quote.
Anon at 19:17:55 Thursday November 28 2002
George Bucks: Also my '2 friends' spent a bit on food and merchandise etc" The club make no cash from food/drink etc. couldnt they have bought 2 scarves each instead?
Stamp at 18:22:37 Thursday November 28 2002
Not the rubber one but Darren. I think we should give Stamp a start on Saturday, I know Wigan is a tough one but he seems to be in good form if the reserve game is anything to go by. Perhaps given his recovery he should just play the 1st 45mins. Whatever happens I feel he must play a part in the Cambridge game as he will be our unknown quantity. with 11 men and Gill at right back we should beat Cambridge and beat them well we let them back into the game in the LDV clash and we need to learn not to sit back and let them come at us. Must say I agree with Dyl and others re Ted, he gets on my tits as well.
cle verarse at 18:03:15 Thursday November 28 2002
Dimba Stards, no but they would have done if he had come up with readys. their decision not to sell was not based on any moral dilemma or desire what to do what was best for the club but because Di Stefano was a crook and they did not wan't to hear of it until he tried screwing them. Ellis looks a different kettle of Fish and I think we should be more hopeful, but the clubs lackies should not try and reinvent history, particularly when it is so recent.
Irregular poster at 18:00:19 Thursday November 28 2002
They didnt sell to GDS because he never came up with the cash - and I suspect thats the only reason.
LH at 17:57:03 Thursday November 28 2002
I see Cambridge had a couple sent off last weekend , does this mean they are suspended for the cup game ?
Dimba Stards at 17:55:13 Thursday November 28 2002
United Front - Did they sell to Mr Di Stefano then? I must have missed that.
RUBBER DUCK at 17:49:06 Thursday November 28 2002
Back to football on this football site about N.T.F.C. I notice Stamp got 2 goals for the res in a 3 1 win and Luton had 2 sent off more good news! !
Dyl at 17:43:57 Thursday November 28 2002
Wish I'd read Who Do We Trusts comments b4 posting my last msg. Sorry for the repeat.
Dyl at 17:41:56 Thursday November 28 2002
Not multi-racial? What do you think the hyphen in Anglo-Saxon denotes? This country has always absorbed influxes of people from outside its borders. Some were conquerors Angles, Saxons, Normans, Vikings. Others were refugees such as Hugenots. Others were migrant labour ie Flemish lacemakers in Bedfordshire. From the creation of the British Empire there was a significant population from the colonies and even before that in cities like Bristol and Liverpool there were significant black populations as as result of the slave trade. Viva Ted, you show your ignorance by seeming to equate multi-cultural with black/asian. The fact is that this country was, even before ww2, a country with a significant ethnic mix. Yes people were fighting for their families and for themselves. But the reason why huge numbers voted Labour in the 1945 election was that they wanted a better country to emerge from the ashes of war. They wanted social justice, opportunity for all. It's easy for people like Ted to ignore the facts, but the fact is that Britain is and was multicultural, and racists like Ted need to face up to it and learn to live with it. Up the cobblers! F**k racist scum!
Dyl at 17:41:55 Thursday November 28 2002
Not multi-racial? What do you think the hyphen in Anglo-Saxon denotes? This country has always absorbed influxes of people from outside its borders. Some were conquerors Angles, Saxons, Normans, Vikings. Others were refugees such as Hugenots. Others were migrant labour ie Flemish lacemakers in Bedfordshire. From the creation of the British Empire there was a significant population from the colonies and even before that in cities like Bristol and Liverpool there were significant black populations as as result of the slave trade. Viva Ted, you show your ignorance by seeming to equate multi-cultural with black/asian. The fact is that this country was, even before ww2, a country with a significant ethnic mix. Yes people were fighting for their families and for themselves. But the reason why huge numbers voted Labour in the 1945 election was that they wanted a better country to emerge from the ashes of war. They wanted social justice, opportunity for all. It's easy for people like Ted to ignore the facts, but the fact is that Britain is and was multicultural, and racists like Ted need to face up to it and learn to live with it. Up the cobblers! F**k racist scum!
Who do we Trust? at 17:17:23 Thursday November 28 2002
good point united front, the board of course (with the exception of TCMP)said that they would sell to Di Stefano so its a bit rich for them to cite that particular moment in the clubs history as reason to trust them on this. If anything it is a huge insult to Andrew Ellis, didn't BS say he was a good proffesional busnesslike individual as well? and why the official site chose to use the term "completed in 7-10 days god only knows, I think they need to shake up there PR machine. Anyway I hope they don't screw up on this one Ellis seems a much better proposition, it would be good though to hear what the Trust's view is, perhpas thay are waiting until they have some news? By thye way "Viva Ted" we have been a multi racial society since 1066 probably before we are a mix of angles saxons from germany (including the queen) Romans, Vikings and Celts people who talk about the term multi racial only in a black/white sense reveal there real agenda which is one of white supremacy and lets all have a dig at Johnny Foreigner, If we should go easy on Ted it is not because we agree with him as he is a serial tw*t, but because he is an endangered species and needs protecting i think the latin term for his elk is "Alfgarnettiterous littleenglandereximus" if his great grandfather grand father and father all fought in the war/s he is indeed remarkable!! his great grandfather must have had his father very early in his life and both must have served before/between 1911-15 and his father during WW2! all were bloody lucky to have fathered children and not become victims of the sort of hatred and inhumane tyranny and facist vitriole that he now esposes. they must be turning in their graves!!
United Front at 16:39:51 Thursday November 28 2002
Some interesting responses by the club on the "Questions for the Club" section on the official site. For example, when asked about Andrew Ellis they said that there may be scope for additions to the playing staff in the near future. However the funniest (unintentional) answer came when someone asked about his background and history and the club responded that the Directors would never sell the club to anyone without the best interests of NTFC at heart and that, as they had shown with Mr Di Stefano (!), if the deal was not right for the club they wouldn't bale out and leave us "high and dry". Talk about revisionist history!
LH at 16:36:52 Thursday November 28 2002
I think Teds comment's are childish & a bit pathetic. If you dont
like the Trust or what it stands for fair enough , every one is entitled to there opinion , but to suggest there is a connection with
with Black asylum seekers is plainly ludicrous . The comment is that stupid I didn't know if I should comment further !
Viva Ted at 16:33:52 Thursday November 28 2002
Dyl, you really are pushing your credibility when you say "they fought for a tolerant multi-racial Britain". In case you'd forgotten, Britain was not a multi-racial society before, during or after immediately after the Second World War. Unless they had a tardis like insight into the future then this was not why they went to war and this was certainly not on my grandparents' minds at the time! Indeed, my grandad often says that had he known that multi-racism had been on the agenda, he'd have been a Conch.
Dyl at 16:11:30 Thursday November 28 2002
Poor understanding of racism? If using black asylum seekers as a stick to beat the Trust with isn't racist, god knows what is. It's not on a par with racial violence or throwing bananas at players, but it's from the same camp.
Ted supporters Club at 15:36:44 Thursday November 28 2002
I dont know who Ted is, but you lot are making too much out of his comment, you are in fact carrying on racism by your poor understanding of racism by your ill informed comments, there are worse people on this site; ANON etc.
Poppycock at 13:30:00 Thursday November 28 2002
Thanks Bazza, as you say this is a football site and I wish people like Ted would stick to comments about football. But unfortunatly he always has to stick in the odd snide and nasty remark. Racists have used football as a vehicle for their bigotry for years and I think what I and Dyl and many others are saying is that lets stick to the football lets celebrate what we achieve and enjoy every thing we have in common and when people go over the top and post trash (like observers Kosavan Poem on Sids site) and like Ted's rants, then lets act collectivly to tell them where to get off. Oh and please Ray when they get offensive please remove the posts.
Bazza at 13:14:10 Thursday November 28 2002
DYL & POPPYCOCK, Sorry, I didn't realise the depth of feeling on this. I still say that this is a football forum not somewhere for people to make political points. Much of what you see on here, although offensive to anyone with a brain, is written purely to provoke a reaction. The more angry, reactionary replies there are, the more offensive posts there will be. I agree with your qoute from, Edmund Burke, 'For evil to triumph, good men do nothing'
Poopycock at 12:49:24 Thursday November 28 2002
No, Bazza they have wound me up and I do think it is important that we challenge them whenever they surface or else we just get used to accepting their nonsense and damaging the image of the club as a result. This site is visited by a lot more people than simply those who contrbute and I for one want them to know that we are not all right wing bigots. "All it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"
Dyl at 12:47:34 Thursday November 28 2002
To Bazza; Ted's use of language is that of someone who believes what he is saying. Yes he may be saying it to provoke a reaction from 'lefties' but the fact that he is saying it at all gives him away. Racism is pernicious and it must be countered wherever it arises. I fail to see the logic behind Ted's claim that the people criticising racism are the real racists. His use of language is not far off that of the BNP. They too use cheap counter-claims about 'the real racists', they too cite their proud heritage (I'd be interested to know Ted in which wars your father, grandfather and great grandfather fought!) and they too try to use arguments about democracy and freedom when they would deny those rights to others. People in my family fought for this country too Ted. But they fought for a tolerant multi-racial Britain, not your nasty little-minded view of what this country should be. Thank God you are in the minority.
George Bucks No1 Cobbler at 12:32:39 Thursday November 28 2002
I got my 'free tickets' by paying for them on an internet site. And as I go to about 15 home games a season I think i should be entitled to the odd cheaper ticket. Still, why cant they get their act together and why was I the ONLY 1???? How about next time you go, go and sit with a complete bunch of strangers and tell me if the atmosphere etc is as good. Also my '2 friends' spent a bit on food and merchandise etc
Bazza at 12:26:18 Thursday November 28 2002
POPPYCOCK, Have you thought that someone might be diliberately trying to wind you up and your reaction is exactly what they are trying to acheive?
Poppycock at 11:46:13 Thursday November 28 2002
Ted, when you wear your poppy with pride do you think of Walter Tull? and the role he played in "fighting for the freedom of this country" Does your pride extend to the countless Gay men who have fought and died on behalf of our nation? and as Colin Powells family were asylum seekers to the USA do you think he shares any less a sense of pride for his adopted country than say any other white american? Yes this is a football site and at the moment there are more important issues to discuss than Teds bigotry, but many of us true supporters feel ashamed of the constant racist rubbish that appears on this site and on Sids. Those responsible should have the courage of their own convictions and identify themselves so we can all tell them excactly what we think of their views.
Such A........ at 11:17:52 Thursday November 28 2002
Ted, your such a tw*t.
Steve at 11:15:47 Thursday November 28 2002
West Stand Woman - Having watched the Cobblers pretty regularly for 37 years, and having visited Nene Park for the first time on Tuesday evening, I'm sure you'll agree there's little doubt as to where my loyalties lie.
Hot Off The Press at 09:53:51 Thursday November 28 2002
CHART-TOPPERS Blazin' Squad are to appear at Sixfields Stadium Northampton tomorrow (Friday 29th Nov) as part of a tour to promote their debut album and support the "Cobblers" SOS Campaign.Band member Flava said we love the Cobbs as a lot of our family live on the Easterns and keep on at us to lend a hand. The Band play at Rushden today but have stated that unless those responsible for the Fields Of Green CD can guide them to the top they will continue to play to toothless Grannies and Phil Baron "Sports SuperSnapper" as they both make them feel they have a chance.Fields CD Mentor Roy "Sitar" "Punjab" Ashwee has been quoted as saying that there is more heat in a Chicken Korma Deluxe from the very down market Star Of India.Ashwee is of course renowned as the only individual to have sorted out 2 Belly Busters with Chips from Midwest after sorting out a personalised Family Super Supreme avec Garlic Bread from Pinnochios on the way there.Wanting to keep his familiar low profile Aswee had only this to say .... Bbbuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrpppppppppppppp.....
Bazza at 09:50:57 Thursday November 28 2002
DRILLING, Great to have the dilemma of which in form player to drop rather than which stiff will make fewest cock-ups.
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:27:50 Thursday November 28 2002
A forward line of Stamp and Gabbadini with maybe Forrester playing in a deeper role could well be the best solution for Saturday. Asamoah can then be used as the ace card towards the end of the game, running at tired defenders which is what he is best at. Like you say Bazza, Wigan are a physical team(as well as being a very good team) so we need to make sure we can at least compete with them. Alternatively play 3 centre backs and go with a Stamp/Gabbs forward line with Harsley, Trollop and Hargrieves in midfield. With 4 players now back, Broadhurst at last has different options. A trip to the top team in the division is a tough one to call tactically - do we go there with the same team that performed so well against Port Vale or do we alter it in an attempt to snuff out better opposition? Personnally I would go with a back 3 at the expense of Delboy, replace Jamie with Stamp, and attempt to frustrate them before unleashing Forrester and DelBoy towards the end if we are losing. Grinding out a result is what it is all about on Saturday - the fanciful stuff that we have witnessed against Port Vale, Luton and Colchester can be reserved for ALL home games and selected away ones when the opposition is not the best!
Danny at 09:18:25 Thursday November 28 2002
Sorry you're honour :)
Bazza at 08:53:53 Thursday November 28 2002
I'm confused, I thought this was a message board for Cobblers supporters to discuss football, not politics. Good news about Stamp. I think he may start on Saturday, when we played Wigan in the Worthless Cup they were a very physical side, all big lads who as much as anything else intimidate the opposition. It reminded me of us under Ian Atkins! We will need someone big and physical at the front, not sure who to drop though, maybe Asa?
Wigan Magistrates Court at 06:50:52 Thursday November 28 2002
WARNING: to Danny of Wellingborough, after your conviction you are bound over to keep the peace, so please do not upset George!!
Danny at 00:19:01 Thursday November 28 2002
George, well done on bringing "2 friends to support the SOS etc" but you seem to have undone that good work by only paying for one ticket!!!!
Black homosexual asylum seeker at 23:01:15 Wednesday November 27 2002
i love Ted and now i love Redscouse toooooooooooo,thank you you have a very balanced mind ps r u both Black homosexual asylum seekers like meeeeeeeeeee or just sad middle englanders
Black homosexual asylum seeker at 22:57:59 Wednesday November 27 2002
cheers for the money
Redscouse at 22:42:51 Wednesday November 27 2002
Not much on here again .......apart from sticking up for Black homosexual asylum seekers........when they have come here in their millions and you can't afford the taxes this goverment will charge you for paying for all their relatives to join them and house and feed them then perhaps you will see it in another light you TWAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry at 22:17:23 Wednesday November 27 2002
I've fixed Mr Ellis' computer so he can't get to this board. If he read it he'd be off like a shot. I'm sure he wouldn't fancy putting money into a club supported by twats like you.
TED at 20:54:40 Wednesday November 27 2002
SEE I TOLD YOU SO -It's people like you who are the racists mate,because you create racism when there isn't any there.It's politically correct tw**s like you who are ruining our country.You can't say this,you shouldn't say that, well bollo**s to you mate and your lefty cronies. My father,grandfather and greatgrandfather fought for the freedom of this country.I wear my poppy with pride.Do you?
RULE BRITANNIA BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES BRITAIN NEVER NEVER NEVER SHALL BE SLAVES
SEE I TOLD YOU SO at 19:18:09 Wednesday November 27 2002
You see Ted you have proved your detractors right, you can't get through a past without having a little dig at the Trust, as to your not being racist, sorry mate I disagree. You may not think you are racist but the ease at which you use the term Black Homosexual Asylum Seekers in your post to make a futile and juvenile point shows clearly that hatred for anyone outside your own viewpoint of the world comes naturally to you. Its ingrained in you alongside your hatred for the Trust, why deny it just come out and say what you think, no one will feel any less about you as a result, that would not be possible as your popularity rating already starts at a low level.
Ted at 19:10:54 Wednesday November 27 2002
Believe it or not,I'm not racist and I don't hate anyone.However what I do adhere to is to be able to say what I really think.This is called free speech,and if you take away that you remove one of the principles of democracy.Now there's a word used quite frequently in the voice of the Trust!
west stan woman at 19:09:10 Wednesday November 27 2002
steve what are you a cobblers fan or a direones fan???????????????? make up your mind
Keen at 18:57:48 Wednesday November 27 2002
It seems Andrew Ellis was at this afternoons reserve fixture against Luton (we won 3-1 and Stamp got 2) If he was there last Saturday and there again today then we have to take it that he is very keen and this time it just might happen.
9224 at 17:46:28 Wednesday November 27 2002
Read this - http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,1-1071878,00.html
Ellis at 14:21:05 Wednesday November 27 2002
I will wait until I hear from TCMP and the Trust on this one, they have been spot on in the past re Fash and Di Stefano and it will be interesting to hear what they say on this one, Ray can we have another TCMP Q&A session?
Anon at 13:43:12 Wednesday November 27 2002
George Bucks, how do you "order" complimentary tickets? Bit harsh to have a dig at the club when you are getting 2 free tickets and as we all know the ticket office is not controlled by the club. Also if someone in the ticket office had made a mistake and sold the tickets elsewhere what else could be done other than offer alternative seats? Next time just pay for all the tickets and you probably won't have a problem.
9224 at 13:33:44 Wednesday November 27 2002
Danny - tell me about it! I sometimes think that I'm the only one alive in my bit of the West Stand (just to the right of the home dugout as you look at the pitch). The far South is loud but the more North you go the quieter it gets.
George Bucks No1 cobbler at 13:14:50 Wednesday November 27 2002
Please excuse my rather crap spelling and grammer.
George Bucks No1 Cobbler at 13:13:39 Wednesday November 27 2002
Want to know what the problem is with the cobblers - Ill tell you. A week Friday I ordered 3 tickets for saturdays game against PV. 2 of them were complimentary and the othe I was paying for. I went get my tickets and was told that they had been booked in anothers name,and my seats were not available. I ended up another row forward and 20 seats along. No real apology or anything.I had brought 'two friends' with me in order to support the SOS etc and this is how I get treated. Furthermore, I was the only one oit 4,500 supporters that this has happened to - which P***ed me off even more. It was all due to the system error. And then they wonder why the club is in shit. I didnt get offered anything (except alternative seats). Thank God we played well, but once again the Ref was shit
black homosexual asylum seeker at 12:48:57 Wednesday November 27 2002
i love Ted
black homosexual asylum seekers at 11:02:05 Wednesday November 27 2002
Ted, your latest racist jibe just about sums you up old boy, I would imagine there is only one group you hate more than foreigners, and thats those in the Trust. You are obsessed and unable to get through a posting without passing some cheap throw away line in about what the Trust might think or you are having a go at individuals within the Trust. You never have anything good to say about anyone or anything!! You are a sad man Ted a loser and most probably a loner. I admit at times to find your rants a bit funny, almost warped but when you revert to cheap racist comments then I am afraid I lose patience.
Anon at 11:00:55 Wednesday November 27 2002
Don't think Steve's remarks were out of order, I watch other local teams just as I watch football on TV. Nothing wrong with enjoying any game of football and although I want the Cobblers to beat whoever we are playing and get added satisfaction if we beat a local rival that wouldn't stop me from watching a game at Nene Park, Kettering, Rothwell etc.
Steve at 10:09:07 Wednesday November 27 2002
GoPP - Your points are well made. Certainly Ray has done a brilliant job on this site and deserves every recognition that comes his way. The number of hours he devotes to maintaining it must be massive. Yes, you're quite right. My earlier posting is possibly inflammatory and probably unwise. It's just that I get so fed up with the dross and also with the (and I'm going to sound SO pompous here) staggering childishness of the 'we hate Peterborough, Rushden & Diamonds' stuff, I thought I'd just stick to fingers up to the wasters and say that you can have a good time watching other teams. To be honest, last night I was secretly hoping for a draw, just for the fun of penalties, but it was not to be. The bit about 'bulls' and 'china shops' escapes me!
Vince at 10:06:29 Wednesday November 27 2002
... sorry, that should read next weeks AGM Thursday 5th December at 7.30pm for 8.00pm - Sixfields Stadium)
Vince at 10:03:28 Wednesday November 27 2002
Just to confirm that Andrew Ellis will be asked if he can be at be at weeks AGM. If he can attend than an announcement will be made as quickly as possible.
United Front at 09:49:11 Wednesday November 27 2002
I agree with Ron Manager regarding inviting Andrew Ellis to the Trust AGM next Thursday. It would give us all a chance to ask him about his plans for us and see what the man has to say. BTW, does anyone know if it is just Ellis involved or is there some kind of consortium?
GoPP at 09:37:56 Wednesday November 27 2002
Steve I think you may have missed the bell yourself. No problem with your comments but until you're prepared to sacrifice yourself don't attempt to become a martyr. Your type are the sort that would encourage the juvenile element to respond, this board has lately become the reasonable forum it's founder/developer created and one that could well become the jewel in the crown it once was.CC was and still is the original Internet base for Cobblers based comment if it weren't for Ray Clements the Web based NTFC would be non existent.He started the entity and I don't see any recognition, I suggest we start a campaign on the Official Site to have NTFC recognise his pioneering efforts. He is deserving of recognition and the likes of S.Church and co should not throw bulls in china shops.Who put the Official NTFC Site on the Internet??????
Danny at 09:11:35 Wednesday November 27 2002
Steve, a friend of mine knows a bloke and his son who are Dire fans who went to watch Cobblers v Port Vale. They both said that if Cobbs were playing Direones, we'd have won by 6 or 7 easily. They said there is a huge difference between what they see week in week out and what we see. When I went to Nene Park to watch the Southend game, Ru$hden fans cheered when they scored, sang you're not singing any more and sat down and shut up. Have to agree with you on the souless Sixfields, the lads are playing good football (98% of the time) and we're cruising to wins at home at the moment, but if you start a song people stare at you as if you're some kind of lepper!!!!
LH at 08:32:49 Wednesday November 27 2002
Ian Holloway says its 'his worst ever moment in Football ' . Thats
funny I thought he had that a few years ago !
Steve at 08:11:29 Wednesday November 27 2002
By the way - Sean Parrish was rubbish - totally anonymous.
Black homosexual asylum seeker at 08:09:35 Wednesday November 27 2002
You mind your words Mr Ted
Hotel Ender at 08:04:12 Wednesday November 27 2002
I like Mr Ellis' comments about taking control of the facilities as Sixfields without including mentioning buying the ground. If the facilities at the ground can be turned into money making facilities then far better the money goes to NTFC rather than to some anonymous management company, also Mr Ellis does not appear to be making any outlandish comments. My only concern is that he has previously tried (and failed) to take an interest in QPR - presumably cos his dad was involved there, why has he turned to the Cobblers? he's from Bedfordshire and has a "soft spot" for us he says.
Steve at 07:57:18 Wednesday November 27 2002
Had an enjoyable evening yesterday and went to watch R & D v Kidderminster with my lad. One or two observations. Great ground, friendly stewards. One I spoke to is a Cobblers supporter and advised us we'd be safe standing behind the goal with the home supporters. The R&D supporters could give ours in the North stand a lesson or two about effective singing/chanting all the way through. One thing that amused me though was their choice of words for "The Fields are Green ....". Adapting the good old socialist anthem of "We'll keep the red flag flying", they substituted it with "We'll keep the WHITE flag flying". I've never heard supporters singing for surrender before, but there you go. The game itself made me realise how far the mighty Cobbs haver progressed. The moaners would do well to take in the occasional 3rd division game. I went expecting the standard to be pretty well up with ours, but was amazed how poor Kidderminster were and how ineffective going forward R & D were. OK - the defence was very solid, with Hunter and Peters winning everything in the air(except for the Kidderminster consolation goal). R & D looked pretty competent, but not much more than that. Maybe they had an off day. Certainly Cambridge looked better against us the other week. I now await a ritual slagging off for putting money into the enemy's coffers, saying nice things about their ground, stewards and supporters. Come on then, where are you? Let's have it. Let's see how hard you are! Oh I forgot. The kids are at school.
Anon at 00:26:38 Wednesday November 27 2002
I understand that Mr. Ellis has many names of players from the former Czechoslovakia which he has passed onto manager Kevan Broadhurst in case he would like to buy them. Sandy, Bedfordshire. -2C
Anon at 23:49:03 Tuesday November 26 2002
RDFC 2 KHFC 1.
Bloke with a twitch at 23:32:24 Tuesday November 26 2002
We've been here before, only Mr Hodder seems a bit quieter this time, and the two weeks is already only 10 days. Excuse me for being cynical, but I'll believe all this takeover stuff only when it has happened.
CP at 23:18:19 Tuesday November 26 2002
I dont see where people on here have been slagging him off, just some posts with a bit of informative history. I think we all realise that the situation at QPR is / was a lot different to ours. If Mr Ellis puts enough money in to secure our immediate future then all well and good, there will be an awful lot of water to pass under the bridge before we should start to worry about the slim possibility that he may have another agenda. Thankfully he hasnt come out with glib statements about reaching the Prem in the next few years either.
Redscouse at 22:05:32 Tuesday November 26 2002
Just a thought,That Italian twat has been charged with laundering money in his native Italy..I bet it was the million he said would help buy the club .......but hey! he would have been the one to save us ..........I ask you!!
Ted at 22:01:25 Tuesday November 26 2002
It's called the Trust inquisition.Let's face it no one is going to be suitable to take over the club in the eyes of the Trust,unless he's a black homosexual asylum seeker.
Who cares!! at 21:54:36 Tuesday November 26 2002
What you twats on here think about anything, real Cobblers fan dont come on here this is Romper room, your comments have no impact, but you knew that!
Last women executed at 21:53:28 Tuesday November 26 2002
Ellis!!
Z CARs at 21:53:08 Tuesday November 26 2002
Ellis that is!!
Z CARS at 21:52:49 Tuesday November 26 2002
Some one was on Z Cars with same name
Redscouse at 21:43:55 Tuesday November 26 2002
You know I just can't believe you lot!We are on the brink of real shit and someone comes along to bail us out of the mess and all you can do is find something to complain about for christ sake!So the man has not come along with countless millions , but he will help us save our club and who knows just might get us going in the right direction!
All I ask is give the man a chance before you start loads of untrue rumours ......but there again you just won't have anything to moan about will you?
Tom Barry at 20:06:55 Tuesday November 26 2002
I'm still here if it all goes tits up.
Mr Realist at 19:11:17 Tuesday November 26 2002
The negativity of some of you is truly astounding. My only concern is that things could not be kept quiet until the ink was on the paper.
Ron Manager at 19:10:46 Tuesday November 26 2002
Has the Trust got another open forum shortly? Can we invite Ellis please?
Bazza at 19:01:12 Tuesday November 26 2002
Anouncement about Ellis only made today and already people are slagging him off! Give the man a chance, It's a lifeline, be positive. I suppose at least pessimists are never disappointed. let's see what he has to say.
Anon at 18:42:31 Tuesday November 26 2002
Vote for Ray as next Trust Chairman.
Ted at 18:37:21 Tuesday November 26 2002
crawl under-Do I take it then that you are actually in favour of this Mr Ellis? I want the SOS appeal to continue,but without those bloody begging buckets.There's some great initiatives going on. Auctions , Gigs and even with the carpark scheme you are getting something for your money,but begging, I ask you!
crawl under at 18:27:14 Tuesday November 26 2002
crawl back under your stone Ted, your just too predictable with your anti trust crap and slagging others off and anyway Andrew Ellis has said he wants the SOS campaign to continue? so the buckets will still be there with his blessing, so do you still hold to your last comment or will you just change your mind/opinion like you usually do. what a muppet.
Ted at 18:22:56 Tuesday November 26 2002
Perhaps even in his cupboard.
Ted at 18:21:38 Tuesday November 26 2002
Well Mr Ellis has my approval.Anyone who can remove those buckets from Sixfields is a friend of mine.I can picture Riches & co at this very minute scouring the internet in the hope of finding skeletons on Mr Ellis's cupboard.
LH at 16:59:09 Tuesday November 26 2002
I agree with the last couple of posters. Ellis's ideas seem to make
commercial sense . It's up to him to make the figures add up. Give the guy a chance to explain what he wants to achieve and judge or pass comments after that. BUT at the end of the day if the majority shareholder wants to sell who will stop the sale ?
I agree at 16:18:16 Tuesday November 26 2002
I agree with most of what you say "another view" apart from the fact that you are being a little unfair on Steve Riches. I feel the communication from the Trust throughout this whole affair has been spot on and if we ask TCMP and others on the Trust for a view I am sure that they will oblige. The only negative comment is that whoever wrote the clubs press release needs sacking, after everything that has happened in the past to use a phrase like " completed in 7-10 days" was just plain stupid and or incompetant, why not just say conversations are continuing and as soon as there is any conclusive outcome we will inform the media? What is important is that the SOS stuff continues and we don't count our chickens too soon
Another View at 15:38:14 Tuesday November 26 2002
I have been supporting the cobblers for enough years to know that you dont believe anything unitl you see it, and obviuosly there is always going to be worry witha new face coming into the club. Taking into account the worries about MK, Sa**nts etc i feel like others this needs to be supported but the only way this will be done is by listening to this bloke and see what his views are, not building up rumours into facts through message boards like this. I am sure steve riches is busy digging up any potential dirt, and making sure his bid to become the next leader of the tust is kept safe. The bottom line is that if we dont give him a chance we may not have a club in 3 months time anyway. The reason he wanted to move from london is high costs, OK this is not a good footballing reason but maybe he sees potential, and that there certainly is in this town. The support shown by the people of the town (Ie the recent 4,000 crowds) show that barring a miracle (ELlis) we are up a creek without a paddle. I plead with people please listen before shouting off at a man who appears to want to help the club, lets juts hope Stonhills 10 days are shorter than hodders 7 days (IE 12 months ++++) The club needs new blood, no offence to mr stonhill he has seen us through very difficult times, but we will be in the same position in ten months time if new ideas are not accepted. Thanks for listening,
Ellis at 15:32:40 Tuesday November 26 2002
my understanding is that Ellis was simply at the same meeting as a bloke called Pete Winkleman who raised the MK issue re QPR but Ellis never backed it, perhaps we should find out more from QPR? I also think we should give Ellis a hearing before we go about deciding what he is or is not about.
9224 at 14:57:45 Tuesday November 26 2002
Let's not get carried away here. Remember there is a HUGE incentive to get a Football Club out of London whereas there isn't that desire to leave Northants. Rents are high, there is a lot of local competition and transport links are awful. We have a stadium with space to develop, excellent transport links, good parking, superb surrounding facilities, a good, large catchment area with no significant local competition for fans. We could also compete with Franchise FC for the fanbase on the history ticket.
LH at 14:52:07 Tuesday November 26 2002
TCMP. Have you any comments to make . I know there are probably
confidentiality agreements but you advised your feelings on GDS .
Do the Trust have a position on proposed takeover yet ? Is it all
fresh news to the Trust as well ?
Nicky at 14:30:27 Tuesday November 26 2002
Remind me to read further down the board before I post
Nicky at 14:04:19 Tuesday November 26 2002
Below is what I have posted on the QPR board if you go to http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=925&p=16&style=2&forumId=3672&action=1&replytoid=2137717543 , you will see the QPR view of Ellis, and what he tried to do there.
Nicky at 14:01:39 Tuesday November 26 2002
From what I can gather this Ellis bloke basically tried to do a Koppel and move QPR to Milton Keynes, at the moment it seems that our club are grabbing at anyone who comes along flashing a bit of cash.
First there was John Fashanu and his promise of Nigerian backing to take us to the premier league. He made all the right noises, spoke to all the right people, was photographed sitting in our stand. He went on Radio five and announced to the world that he expected the take over to go ahead in 2 or three weeks. Us supporters dared to hope.... could this finally be the money we have always dreamed of to start to build something really good. But then, lo and behold Koppel gets the okay to move the dons to MK and it all suddenly goes quiet on the Fash front. Surprisingly enough the cynical amongst us began to think that if Koppel had not got the go ahead, would we have been merged with Wimbledon anyway??????
Next we had De Stefano, Italian Lawyer and friend of most of the major dictators and warlords this side of the moon. He again promised us the earth; he was going to buy the club for his son. He was going to buy the ground from the council and make us Division One within 2 years. He went a different way to Fash and started to befriend some of the fans, he freely posted his email address and mobile number so we could call him up. He posted all his plans on the offish site message board, and again some dared to believe. Not all though, Tony Clarke MP who is our Fans rep on the board said that the day GDS walked into the club, he would walk out. Yet again our hopes were crushed when, after much delaying, GDS offered a £50,000 investment. We said no, he buggered off and once more we resigned ourselves to our fate.
Then it was announced that we had a £500,000 shortfall to make up by January. The directors dug deep, the fans are raising money left right and centre in the hope that our beloved club will not die.
Now we have this Ellis bloke. He can't be wanting to sell the ground, as we don't own it the Council do. I am just worried like you said, that he wants us to merge with Franchise FC when they come to MK. Failing that will he buy the ground, sell it to Koppel from under us and leave us to share with the Saints at Franklins Gardens. This is something that we cannot contemplate, if the Dons came to Northampton instead of MK then we might as well kiss our beloved club goodbye.
So I will wait once again to see what will happen to the club that I love. I, like everyone else would love to see us do well. I would love us to finally, after over 100 years, own our own stadium, I would love to see us climb into the upper echelons of football and rub shoulders with the big boys. But if that means merger, moving, or God knows what else, I am just not so sure.
Northampton Gas at 13:49:16 Tuesday November 26 2002
I've been hiding, in view of my clubs abysmal performances. *s*
However I note with interest Andrew Ellis has shown an interest. Wasn't he connected with talks of QPR going to MK. Are you sure that MK will not have two teams shortly?
M at 13:20:02 Tuesday November 26 2002
Ditto 12:46 comment
Anon at 12:46:49 Tuesday November 26 2002
Lets hope that Ellis doesn't fall off horses, fails to find banking arrangements exciting, isn't funded by a tribal chief, isn't on the rebound from Coventry, doesn't haved a complicated family trust, isn't pals with a pretend vicar, doesn't socialise with the worlds terrorists and is just a normal bloke who loves football.
Anon at 12:41:38 Tuesday November 26 2002
worth a go though, we aint filling those buckets quick enough and he cant mortgage the ground away.
what QPR fans have to say about Ellis at 12:39:01 Tuesday November 26 2002
anyone know anything about this chap? about to buy northampton town and rescue them from the brink of administration. i gather he was on your board for 12 years and is the son of peter ellis. apparently he tried to engineer a move away from loftus road but you lot told him where to go. can we trust this man?
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Rescue, would not be a word that we would genrally associate with the Ellis family. I think people like Ingham, may be best answering this one for you.
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Borrowed from QPR1st at the time we were in trouble last season:
A name which keeps cropping up in the press as interested in buying QPR is estate agent Andrew Ellis, son of ex-chairman Peter. But details of Andrew's plans for the club are sketchy and the result of guesswork at best. So far, he has kept his cards close to his chest - and that includes having made any sort of contact with QPR 1st.
So it was a big surprise then to find Andrew at the Queen Adelaide standing alongside Pete Winkelman and putting the case for QPR moving to Milton Keynes. A move of course that will leave Loftus Road empty.
There were about 50 fans present, largely from the LSA. Each of them would take a lot of convincing that relocating halfway up the M1 was the way forward for QPR. It needed a powerful argument and a first class presentation. What followed was a shambles. If these are the sort of people holding the future of QPR in their hands, then we really might as well all pack up now and read the last rites for our beloved club. Except of course they don't, and we will ensure they never do.
The meeting lasted for just over an hour. The microphone kept cutting out - which at least spared the assembled audience some of the drivel that was being spouted in the name of rescuing QPR. Andrew Ellis took the stage first, and explained why he can't bid for the club by himself, as he hasn't got the financial clout. He said that the guys from Milton Keynes had come along to give their views on why they feel a move could be beneficial to everyone, and asked the audience to hear them out. Andrew was backed by Mick McCarthy, who introduced himself as a founder of the LSA, said a few words about the situation at the club, and how none of us want this move, but at least let's listen to what they are proposing.
Pete Winkleman took to the stage. He explained why he and his consortium feel such a move for QPR would benefit QPR and QPR fans, because they guaranteed the club would prosper. Milton Keynes is ideal for a Football League club as the nearest ones are a full 30 minutes away. As convincing arguments go, it wasn't exactly up there with the best. He wasn't helped by a faulty microphone... or the fact that half his audience were chatting amongst themselves or getting up to replenish their drinks.
It seems that for this gallant display of white knightery, the Milton Keynes Stadium Consortium are willing to pay £2.5m. That this kind of sum wouldn't even get them to the table is perhaps an indication of how safe it is to dismiss the notion of QPR relocating to the part of leafy Buckinghamshire that has concrete cows and a nightmarish roundabout system.
It's a mickey mouse bid, from a mickey mouse consortium, with mickey mouse ideas. And the only insult in that verdict is to Walt Disney.
He then showed a video of the Milton Keynes bowl and the surrounding area. It's the surrounding area that's earmarked for QPR. Currently fields, a new ground will be built as part of a five-year plan, with QPR moving in two years' time and playing at the Bowl until the new stadium is built. In the interim, funding would be made available for QPR from the consortium for transfers, and running costs. If we haven't got that quite right, then that's because trying to watch a soundless video on a 14" television screen mounted on a table on a stage isn't that easy.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, if there's a proper business plan to all this, it wasn't waved about - not even for effect. Apart from a three-minute video, it wouldn't surprise if the whole thing was sketched on the back of an envelope. All the same, Pete Winkelman asked those present to go away and think about it. Without laughing, presumably.
Chris Leach, a QPR fan and relative of Mick Leach, took the mike, thanked the Milton Keynes consortium for coming along, and made a brief statement to the effect of, "If we have to stay a small club, then so be it. Our roots are West London and that's where we want to stay. I think the general feeling is thanks, but no thanks."
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Don't know much about Ellis but that would make me refuse his offer of help. There were quite a few who had opinions when a "takeover" of QPR was mooted a year or so ago, one comment being to note that he had no money. I feel your posting Chronecho takes the right stance.
Why should you trust him? What do you know about him? Can you read his mind? Can you believe what he says? Who stands to lose if he gets it wrong? Whose money will he be spending? How much have you lot invested in your club over the last century? How much will he put in? What qualifications has he for the job?
What guarantees will he give you (this one is important because usually they ensure that you give them guarantees, in the form of a charge over your stadium, so that, once they have made all the decisions and the whole thing is a disaster, they can walk away several millions, or even tens of millions, richer than when they arrived). No? Brighton? And not just them. Look at West London. Chelsea, £100 million in debt. QPR run by a board that tried to kill it off a year or so ago. Brentford, doomed to lose Griffin Park now. Wimbledon - demoted, what, 7 divisions, the league "club" playing to an empty ground, the real club playing in the Combined Counties League.
These characters don't need any money of their own - because they can raise a lot on the security of your ground. But the ground will be sold to pay it off, they don't need to put their hands in their pockets if things go wrong. Meanwhile, the constant flow of cash from the supporters pays the overheads, interests and so on.
Remember Brighton. Ask them how it works.
Our Council supports us otherwise we would have been history 40 years ago, 15 years ago, and 18 months ago. What is your Council's position?
But ask yourselves a more important question. Do you need this man? When it will be your money that pays for everything, what has he to offer? If you want your club bankrupted with loans, why not borrow the money yourselves? At least you will be making the decisions yourselves.
Our former chairman began lending us his own money, made all the decisions (or allowed his henchmen to make them) himself that caused the money to be squandered, and then demanded the money back.
We now have a £20 million liability and no money and all the people in place who took the club into administration, our ground mortgaged to some offshore outfit we know nothing of. What was the money for? To save their limited company, not our club. We would have survived, even in the Combined Counties League, but had Loftus Road plc gone bust, they would have been dead and buried.
How much of that £20 million was invested in the club? Well, the manager got less than £1 million of it. Good business eh? These people know what they're doing.
We have been run successively by Richard Thompson, one of the richest men, or richest families, in football, and Chris Wright, a multimillionaire many times over.
Thompson took us out of the Premier League just when the big money began. Wright took us out of Division 1 just when the bigger money arrived.
Think carefully. Your Supporters Trust bloke who addressed our fledgling Supporters Trust 18 months ago gave an absolutely superb speech.
Think about it. Who really cares about Northampton Town FC? Who will be there even if it all goes wrong? Ellis? Why?
Good luck, and keep us posted - fascinating to know that he is still pottering around. I am trying to remember if he had something to do with the Milton Keynes business. They wanted us to go there (well, not us, there would have been no QPR).
I wonder. There sits Koppel, master of all he surveys, in someone else's empty stadium (uniquely, this is on match days) with his Milton Keynes proposals.
Could it be that Ellis is his frontman? Acquire Northampton Town, promise them anything - riches, glory, the Manchester United of the Midlands (sorry, that's Fayed), move to MK, merge with QPR/Brentford/Fulham/Wimbledon, play in big stadium (doesn't exist does it? Don't fall for that one), All you need to do is hand over yours and then ........... all the problems will start and you'll be homeless and someone else will be rich, as with Brighton.
When is Koppel proposing to move now?
I don't say that this is what Ellis intends, but there is no knowing a person's private intentions. You have everything to lose if you get it wrong.
LIVING NEXT DOOR TO ELLIS at 12:28:40 Tuesday November 26 2002
Who the F&*K is Ellis
9224 at 12:07:12 Tuesday November 26 2002
to Anon - I believe he is worth another year or two at most - three would be a gamble unless there was some link to coaching and qualifications etc.
Dyl at 11:35:01 Tuesday November 26 2002
The Chron says "Cobblers chairman Barry Stonhill, who maintained a sceptical stance throughout recent takeover talks with a consortium led by John Fashanu and a deal put forward by controversial lawyer Giovanni Di Stefano, believes the Ellis deal is likely to succeed." Is this the same Barry Stonhill who refused to admit that Di Stefano was the dodgiest conman to come to Northampton since McRitchie?
Anon at 11:06:28 Tuesday November 26 2002
http://www.northantsnew.co.uk/ref/sport_football_cobblers.asp?ID=14401
Anon at 11:04:34 Tuesday November 26 2002
http://www.northantsnew.co.uk/sport/pages/football.asp
Anon at 10:43:37 Tuesday November 26 2002
Saturdays attendance was down to 3 home games in 10 days. We have 3 weeks before our next home game, if we can get some sort of result in he away league game and again in the FA CUP I would expect at least 6,000 to be in attendance at the next game, esp if we pull out a plum tie in the 3rd round.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:32:24 Tuesday November 26 2002
So its a case of 'here we go again'! In some ways I give credit to the club for informing the supporters the likelyhood of a takeover, but IF it doesnt go ahead the momentum of the SOS appeal is likely to be lost. And we all know what happened the last time 10days was mentioned! At least in the meantime it puts the club in the media spotlight - and judging by Saturdays attendance it is needed.
Anon at 10:31:40 Tuesday November 26 2002
No doubt any deal will need Ted's approval before it goes ahead
LH at 10:27:57 Tuesday November 26 2002
All sounds interesting . Maybe you could create an arugument that the buyer has the Club at heart & wants to buy in ASAP .His first
concern is securing the Clubs future & not screwing everybody down to the 11th hour. Maybe he is a GENUINE buyer with GENUINE intentions for once. But I wouldnt put the buckets away yet lads.
United Front at 10:19:54 Tuesday November 26 2002
Wouldn't it make more sense for a prospective buyer to wait until one week before the January 31st deadline when the maximum amount of money has been raised for the SOS appeal? Then they could takeover with many of the creditors already paid off and save aome of their money.
Rubber Stamp at 10:15:42 Tuesday November 26 2002
I'm ready.....
United Front at 10:07:45 Tuesday November 26 2002
Perhaps Di Stefano has made a better offer (only joking!). Seriously though wouldn't it be better if we were told when (and if) things are finalised, rather than being given the familiar deadline of 10 days?
News Just In at 09:57:23 Tuesday November 26 2002
Northampton Town Chairman Barry Stonhill has made the following statement to the club's supporters."Discussions regarding the future of Northampton Town Football Club have been taking place with an interested party over the past 2 to 3 weeks. Those discussions have been harmonious and fruitful and there is a good chance a deal will be concluded within the next 10 days."
M at 09:51:47 Tuesday November 26 2002
Official site says we may have a buyer, will know more in 10 days. Please let it happen ?
KettCobb at 23:13:04 Monday November 25 2002
Right CC is good yes,a bright prospect but i can pretty much bet my life he wont go to Spurs! There are much better prospects than him around,someone getting a bit carried away methinks! A Blinding thought tho eh! Chris Lee,our £1million player is probably a hairdresser or something of such stature.
Macc Cobblers at 22:48:35 Monday November 25 2002
I find it amazing that all these rumours of takeovers and players leaving, all arises again just when the team starts playing the best football for a long while - you just wonder who the sources are.
Lets get behind the team - and carry on supporting the SOS appeal - and forget about takeovers and players leaving for large sums.
Have we learnt nothing from the takeover fiasco - and also where is our ex-player who was to be our first £1 million sale.
ron rumourshite at 22:37:16 Monday November 25 2002
Just heard Celtic have offered £2,300,000 for jamie,oh shite sorry that was on LMA manger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:35:06 Monday November 25 2002
Slightly late but reminded by the comment about Jamies goal viewed from the West Stand. The BBC/Sky camera(s) for the FA Cup v Boston were positioned on the East Stand looking towards the Main West Stand. Why did they change and didn't the ground look better from that side?...COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Vince at 21:18:30 Monday November 25 2002
Begging!!!, the vast majority of fans have donated with a smile and have often gone out of their way to make a donation, many have said a payment for parking which benefited of the club should have been made before. The buckets were used after a few games by "popular demand" from fans who were not using the car parks but wanted to donate. To suggest it is begging insults those who donate as well as those who collect. All of those collecting and donating are doing it because they want to help the club which is presumably why you donated.
Anon at 20:31:23 Monday November 25 2002
9224, me thinks Gabbs is playing for another 3yr contract at 5k a week, but will he get it? should he get it?
Ted at 20:21:34 Monday November 25 2002
TRB Mark-I like you! We have something in common,we are both artists.I have not for one moment ever said the fund-raising should stop.I don't like the buckets though,it's begging.I have no problem with the many events that are taking place.I have even contributed to the car-parking scheme.I honestly believe that the true supporters have become more unified with what is taking place.Nevertheless I think we have a right to be suspicious,and my views are not without substance.
Mr Realist at 20:21:12 Monday November 25 2002
I would forget all this speculation about Carruthers. The kind of rumour that goes around on a dull Monday. Nothing is done until it is done (remember Fashanu and Di Stefano)and true supporters will continue to do all they can to keep our club alive.
Ted at 20:06:58 Monday November 25 2002
What Hypocracy!!-Are you another T**t or the Same T**t?.The point I am trying to make is that what's different to how we were 10 years ago.The buckets are back,the clubs in turmoil and the true fans have no real say in the running of the club.Surely the Trust has failed in its objective of 10 years ago, to bring stability to the football club.Let's face it,the only time that the club has been run with any sort of professionalism is when we were in administration.I want this club to go forward,and it most certainly will not in its present form.
TRB Mark at 19:55:15 Monday November 25 2002
OK, so we do nothing until the dosh for CC comes in......like we waited for the Di Stefino/Fash take overs which were going to solve all our problems. The bottom line is we need £500,000 by the end of Jan one way or another. Yes, we may be bailing out this person who cocked that up but all the recriminations in the world won't stop the taxman kicking down the door, if he wants. If we want a club that we are all supposed to support to still be here then we the fans have to focus on the job of raising as much money the best we can. OK, a winding up order may never happen but I for one don't want to say I didn't do my bit should it go belly up.
MK Cobbler at 19:50:31 Monday November 25 2002
Ted - why don't you put up £50,000 to become a director, sign a guarantee to the bank as further risk for the overdraft and then you may be taken seriously.
What Hypocracy!! at 19:39:44 Monday November 25 2002
Ted how can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you come out with comments like "The fans know no more now than they did 10years ago." poppycock!! What inflated ego's? who are you talking about? everyone I have spoken to from the Trust seems pretty sensible to me, I dont see them as in it for any alterior motive but, if you know better then name them don't just hide behind generalism's, and your wrong not any one could be voted onto the Trust Exec as they would need to get support from the fan base and I know one person not a million miles from this conversation who true fans would never want any where near a decision, and thats you mate. which bit of "what abouts" post made you think he was a T*%t? and why do you think so many posters on here label you with that very identifier? What a knob you are.
Ted at 19:29:51 Monday November 25 2002
What about?-That's typical,you think because the Trust has a representative on the board Trust members are told everything that goes on within the club.The fans know no more now than they did 10years ago.I've been to those meetings and most of what you hear is just spin.I don't hate the Trust,but I do dislike some prominent members who take it upon themseves to be the voice of the fans and boost their own ego's.I know you'll come back on here in a few minutes and say that anyone can be voted onto the Trust executive, well they can if their face fits ,and they agree with Twa*s like you.
what about? at 18:48:07 Monday November 25 2002
What about the money owed to the bank Ted? or the Tax Man Ted? or to the PFA Ted? or to the unknown individuals who have lent the club money Ted? or to plug the gap left by the ITV digital fiasco Ted? or even to plug the gap left by falling gates Ted? what about the money needed every month to pay the wage bill until it reduces Ted? Don't you think someone would notice if the directors pocketed any windfall from selling CC Ted? Dont you think the Trust director might have something to say about it Ted? Oh, I forgot you don't like the Trust do you Ted? Its because you know best Ted, isn't It? Sounds like you spout a load of bollocks to me Ted, doesn't it you?
Ted at 18:38:59 Monday November 25 2002
The way I see the situation,is that the directors who have put the 100k into the SOS appeal have a nice little insurance policy with the CC move.Perhaps not such a brave move after all!The figure is a little less than 500k from Spurs.
explain? at 18:19:01 Monday November 25 2002
how are we "bailing Stonhill out" Ron Manager surely we are all bailing the Cobblers out because so far we have not sold anyone havent yet had a big pay out from the FA cup etc, perhaps Stonhill and the other directors and the trust should just not bother and take back their £25,000 they have put into the SOS appeal, or are they just putting that in to bail themselves out?
Ron Manager at 17:55:26 Monday November 25 2002
I never said how much Spurs were paying for him I just said they were buying him. If the 'January window' had not been in place he would have already gone and Stonhill would not be able to get us to bail him out to this degree. Just watch what happens in January that is all I am saying......
Anon at 17:19:57 Monday November 25 2002
forresters goal was exactly thre same as one of leicesters. anybody see it?
New Stratford Wobbler at 16:48:56 Monday November 25 2002
To Anon if you think Teds an arse that makes you his ring piece, you are consistentlty the biggest Barclay Banker Ive ever come upon
Steve1960 at 16:31:39 Monday November 25 2002
LOTSWTC present a Motown/Northern Soul night at the Sporting Bar Sixfields Stadium on Friday 29th November from 7.30-12.30. Admission £4.00 all monies raised will go to the SOS appeal. Lets have some "bums on seats" folks.
Anon at 15:46:04 Monday November 25 2002
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Cobbler abroad at 15:12:45 Monday November 25 2002
I'd like to see the Trust organise town centre collections on the Saturday mornings before Christmas. That would be more effective than tapping the car park each week. I'd help, but I'm a little far away for the next 4 weeks.
TRB Mark at 15:00:08 Monday November 25 2002
Those of you in the Anglia reason, make an effort to watch the goals tonight. Jamie's goal looked absolutely awesome from the West stand camera view, much better than from my position in the North Stand. If that had been scored by Beckham, the national media would have been frothing at the mouth! Danny, thanks for your offer, I've emailed you.
Kiss of Death? at 14:01:01 Monday November 25 2002
A win or draw at Wigan could see Broads take Manager of the Month.
LDB at 13:54:36 Monday November 25 2002
It's good to see the boys on 'abit' of a run - keep it going! we are only five points off the playoffs !!!!!
Anon at 13:51:57 Monday November 25 2002
V good Judge Pickles and United Front.
9224 at 13:21:25 Monday November 25 2002
I think the extension of Gabbiadini's contract is a must given the form he's in. Also Forrester. If we can really publicise the Gabbiadini Effect he's the sort of player who will put bums on seats. The Chron suggested a Gabbas Goals video and I reckon videos could be a decent fundraiser. We could start with last season's video, then get the fans to vote for the 100 best goals they've seen at Sixfields and have Sammo present them -as he's been here for them all. How about a Woody & Welchy Greatest Saves tape, or sell the complete Wembley matches and the Rovers semi. We could have a 'Funny Moments' tape - McGregor copping one in the knackers and the big fight after that Preston game (Sixfields Strangler) spring to mind!!
United Front at 12:53:34 Monday November 25 2002
After doing a bit of searching about Andrew Ellis who tried to take over QPR, it seems that his plans may have included moving the club to Milton Keynes. What implications for us? (I know this is wild speculation but humour me, I'm bored at work).
Judge Pickles at 12:12:41 Monday November 25 2002
Anon - the Ellis you talk about - hopefully it is not a member of deadly Dougs family! - however if he is the Ellis involved in an aborted take over of QPR - (actually a wealthy estate agent) then that could just be interesting - however far to many false dawns so I'll still be sticking my £2.00 in the bucket!
United Front at 10:52:21 Monday November 25 2002
I don't know what to make of the speculation that CC might be lined up for a big move, but if he does get bought by a Premier League club surely there must be a case for him to stay with us (on loan) to continue to develop. I am a big CC fan, but he still has a lot to learn about the game. However, judging by his performance on Saturday he is learning very quickly. In the first half he kept getting caught out by the pace of McPhee and looked to be struggling with his foot injury, but in the second half he got tighter and seemed to get stronger as the match progressed.
Tony at 10:51:20 Monday November 25 2002
Oh right... just got back from the US, and was still thinking college Cheerleaders.
Anon at 10:49:27 Monday November 25 2002
They were 10 year-old cheerleaders Tony!
Tony at 10:45:37 Monday November 25 2002
Let me get this strait... 10 years of going to Sixfields and seeing just about every game.... the only rare game I miss (Port Vale) and we had Cheerleaders for the first time????
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:19:14 Monday November 25 2002
Prior to this season, I constantly questioned everything about Gabbs contribution - his inflated wage packet,his lack of fitness, his goal count, how many chins he had - and could only see him getting worse, putting on more weight, scoring less goals, and tracking back even less. How bloody wrong could I have been? He once again looks like the Darlington forward who single handedly ripped us apart almost 3 years to this day. His link up play with Forrester is at time breathtaking - is it a coincidence that the two look most potent when Asamoah is playing on the right hand side, forcing panicking defenders out wide everytime he has the ball? It must be realised however that away from home a different stance does need to be adopted at times due to the fact that we are likely to have the ball less. Something that Broads got spot on recently at QPR. Lets not forget at Notts County, the 3 of them played and whilst I accept that our attacking play was excellent, when we lost the ball the defence couldnt cope. It is hard to change a winning team, but away to Wigan on saturday I would argue a case for a Stamp and Gabbadini forward line, Stamps fitness of course permitting. When opponents back off like Port Vale did on Saturday, we will take them to the cleaners - but when we are up against a big physical 'in your face' team like Brenford - we do not always have the personnel to cope. Neither Gabbadini, Forrester or Asamoah can provide an outlet for the long, panicked hoof up front because of their lack of height. Height wasnt necessary on Saturday because the ball was played to feet, but away from home we need more of a physical prescence. I genuinely believe that next season when Broadhurst has a squad of players who have signed for 'him', a promotion push can be maintained providing we have reasonable luck concerning injuries. The current squad minus a few of the 'crocks' but with muscle added to it would enable Broadhurst to pick a team capable of playing and beating any division2 opposition.
Anon at 09:50:30 Monday November 25 2002
Russell was at the match on saturday...... has he won the lottery???
Anon at 09:41:27 Monday November 25 2002
Ellis.
Remember the name.
He is not a footballer. He was at the match on Saturday.I'm told we are going to be hearing alot more of him, probably by the end of this week.
Danny at 09:10:35 Monday November 25 2002
TRB Mark, perhaps a good idea would be to try and sell some cards on the three supporters buses. Drop me an e-mail and we can arrange getting to sell on CISC.
song meister at 08:39:50 Monday November 25 2002
to the tune "its amore" ....... "When the ball hits the goal, its not Shearer or Cole, its our Marco" .... repeat ad infinitum!
Anon at 00:20:37 Monday November 25 2002
I see Ted the Whinger is back in all glory. What an arse.
9224 at 23:48:40 Sunday November 24 2002
Just read the Port Vale website - www.port-vale.co.uk, who described Gabbiadini's performance as 'eclisping' and 'ten out of ten'. They said he was everywhere, making a last-ditch tackle inside his own area with an hour gone. I believe at the moment he is worth the admission fee alone.
perhaps at 22:58:22 Sunday November 24 2002
perhaps Ted the board and the trust are saying, I know we will fleece the supporters and make the match day expierience "less enhanced" by asking our fellow supporters to save the club from going under because we have no other ideas and we are activly stopping anyone coming in to save the club? what makes you think they would not welcome someone coming in with the ready's (except Di stefano of course)? You moaned about the trust moaning about Di Stefano, then you moaned about the board not taking his money. when he was proved to be a joke you then moaned about Di Stefano. and now you are moaning about keeping the club alive? break a habit of a lifetime Ted, give us a name of any one person who you feel has had the club at heart over the past few months and who you will not moan about? I challenge you.
MK Cobbler at 22:42:33 Sunday November 24 2002
Ted - "the campaign should be focused on a business plan including the Stadium". ??? That is the future not the present. The campaign is about those that care keeping the club out of administration. BTW if you have read TCMP's comments since the GDS fiasco you will know that he has been given ideas about the development of the stadium (including a motel I think) but it takes big money and with buying the ground I doubt that there would be much change left from £10 million. We have to live with raising £500,000 to be around this time next year. After that who knows.
Lemmie at 21:59:07 Sunday November 24 2002
I am a big Chris Carruthers fan, ever since he turned in a match winning performance v Bristol City away last season. He has what it takes to become a good footballer at a higher level, can pass, has pace, sure he lacks positional sense (experience) but what he has in abundance is self-belief and a certain arrogance (in the nicest possible sense). Did you see how he pushed Gabbi out of the way yesterday to take control of the ball? Love it!! To suggest he is just another Cobblers player exposes a shortfall in your appreciation of young talent.
Ted at 21:44:09 Sunday November 24 2002
Mrs Goggins-I agree with most of what you say,but the bucket collections don't exactly enhance the match-day experience.Will all the other delights that you have mentioned it's nothing short of a disgrace for the money you pay.This is exactly why the campaign should be focused on a business plan including the Stadium.
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:32:05 Sunday November 24 2002
Many a footballer has been signed for silly money before he has had the chance to prove himself at the top level. And anyway one or two million these days is nothing to the prem clubs. Scouts get paid to give informed advice on emerging talent. I know that the club (supposedly) has been keeping him out of the open shop window but if Spurs are willing to purchase, now is the time to make other clubs aware. Nothing inflates a price more than a bidding war. And it would only be to our benefit, he will go eventually anyway although this will be quicker than the majority of us were hoping for. I for one have yet to see him start a game, I was hoping to see this great new Cobblers talent first hand. If his selling saves the club then lets play the game and get as much as possible..... COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Paul at 21:23:04 Sunday November 24 2002
CC has only played a handfull of games for us where he has been anything other than another Cobblers player. He may turn into a great player, I hope so, but saying he is worth £500k right now is crazy. Maybe this time next season with a full season's play and more experience, then maybe worth £250k...
Mrs Goggins at 21:22:09 Sunday November 24 2002
TED - Were you a sniper in the last war? To suggest that 2,000 fans stay away because they don't want to contribute to the bucket collections is laughable. £17 is a bunch of cash that most don't have at this time of year, stick a putrid pie and a warm flat bottled coke on top and you just spent several aunties worth of Christmas presents. A more plausible reason why fans are not turning up might be that chuffing lake on the footpath from the North car parks. It is a bloody disgrace and the club ought to sort it out. I for one have seen many get soaking wet feet and I have heard many say (particularly after crap performances) I ain't coming up here to watch that and then have to traipse through mud. moan .. moan .. moan..
Lemmie at 21:14:12 Sunday November 24 2002
Interesting to see the comment below about Chris Carruthers going to Spurs. I heard this several months ago from a reliable source, Graham Carr scouts for Spurs and regularly watches our games and on his recommendation CC will sign for them. I hope we get a bunch of cash for the lad and that he goes on to emulate Phil Neal.
Ted at 20:58:16 Sunday November 24 2002
Maybe- Before you call me negative my son,take a look at what a certain Mr Riches wrote in the latest Trust News.I quote." By the time you read what I have written the club could well have already fallen into administration and we could be propping up division 2.The only certainty is that the future is uncertain" I'll say one thing,I wouldn't have wanted to be next to him in the trenches!
well done at 20:54:23 Sunday November 24 2002
well done Vince and the Trust keep up the good work, whilst people like Ted are sitting on his arse moaning about the SOS campaign not achieving anything people like you are out proving him wrong, my view of the Trust as a result has risen tenfold
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:51:17 Sunday November 24 2002
Ron Manager...IF and thats a big IF, CC is going to Tottering Hotsh@t for a decent fee (assuming over the 500K) does that mean the drive towards SOS is now on hold? Dangerous to put that about when so many people are working their butts off to save the club. A rumour like that WILL reduce the commitment however much we say to the contrary. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!! We have been let down on promises in the past... Anyway, from all of the reports, CC is worth at least ten times that.. Thats cash up front please not related to how many games he plays... Don't forget the sell on percentage as well whoever is doing the deal
Vince at 20:49:55 Sunday November 24 2002
The bucket collections continued this afternoon at Sixfields for the Badgers game - £839.88 was collected and thanks to anyone who donated and to Ant Collett who did the collecting. Total collected this weekend was £2558.18 bringing the total for the scheme to £14,099.02
maybe at 20:46:28 Sunday November 24 2002
Maybe Ted, that people are negative because people like you are always negative, and yet despite the doom and gloom merchants, the board and the Trust are doing what they can to keep the club afloat, if they pull it off or get someone to invest, will you be quick to say O.K I was a prat I should have trusted them all the way along? I think I remember you having a dig at the Trust for speaking out about Di Stefano, or would you like us to forget that? get behind those who are doing thier best or clear out i dont care which.
Man from the east at 20:39:00 Sunday November 24 2002
If you think you can get to the top of the tree on Bullshit, then good luck to you Stratford Wobbler.
Ted at 20:31:54 Sunday November 24 2002
Ron Manager-Remember you have to take season ticket holders out of the equation,so even at a gate of 5000 there are are only just over two thousand paying customers
Bert Backache at 20:25:07 Sunday November 24 2002
What I want to know is, why do fools fall in love?
Ron Manager at 20:23:39 Sunday November 24 2002
Ted. Stonhill said in his latest confession that if we get a gate of 5k (which is what they have budgeted for) then we get an income of 18k for the club so thats £3500 for each 1k of spectators. Doesn't sound very clever to moi.
Ted at 20:19:25 Sunday November 24 2002
When in a hole-for your information I have contributed freely to the car-parking scheme and in many other ways to the SOS appeal.However whats the use of collecting say £1,500 from the diehards,and losing at least 1000 paying customers each game,amounting to more than £10,000?.Let's face it, it's not working! Since the rallying call for help came,less people have turned up for the games.
New Stratford Wobbler at 20:18:17 Sunday November 24 2002
Ted is right, but his philosphy about Northants people fits with everyone, no one wants to be associated with losers, all this negativity associated with the club puts off people attending games, the Chron and Echo wants to get its priorities right, it needs to get behind the club (they might work out that if the club does well then maybe more people buy more papers to read about the Cobblers), but thats the press, they only like Bad news. In terms of R&D best of luck to them, but their days are numbered, they will sink back at some stage to non league or go bust, the money needed to sustain them will dry up, its so obvious (after all a business man is behind them, not like the Cobblers we survive on dreams), and whatever level of funding that they have now would have to be increased if they do go up, they just have not got a fan base, and they wont do a Wimbledon, they just arent SEXY enough to be a marketable item. Irrespective of whether we are about to sell a player, the Cobblers will survive, our debt would be welcomed by 60+ clubs outside of the Premier League, its miniscule. Best of luck Jamie, you are doing OK at the moment, but you will never be the great player who scored for fun at oldham away and at Cambridge, as for Gabbi, he always has had class, all the time he has played for us, it was the other players who were not reading the same script as Gabbi, unfortunately Gabbi looks great in a competent team, when we were shit he looked bad at times when we were clueless, we had another player of much lesser ability now at Oldham who only scored when we played well, when were struggling he had mystery viruses, Gabbi never hides, one of the greats!!! as for Old Cobbler get that Plastic surgery and become a New Stratford lovely like me!!!
Ron Manager at 20:11:06 Sunday November 24 2002
Chris Carruthers is going to Tottenham in January.
when in a hole at 20:06:00 Sunday November 24 2002
MK, the trouble with Ted is that he always has something to say about everything and everyone and none of it is ever positive and he has the gall to call steve riches and the trust? did you put towards the £20,000 they donated Ted
Toe Poke at 20:05:56 Sunday November 24 2002
On wednesday afternoon against Leyton the flood lights were onall afternoon . The only asset we have is the players , let them play at night and feel that some poeple care by turning up to watch and not playing in front of an empty stadium.
Ted at 20:03:57 Sunday November 24 2002
I can also tell all you good people that regardless of whether the 500K is reached,the club will not fold.(is that positive enough for you) How do I know this? because a fee has already been agreed for one of our players. I'll leave you to guess who!
NLP at 19:46:30 Sunday November 24 2002
And when we play you very soon you will be featured as well.
NLP at 19:42:28 Sunday November 24 2002
Every team that leaves the conference, get a match report the following season in the NLP. If the team is doing really well the NLP keep the reports going. The NLP are proud to see the ex conference teams performing well, as indeed the Diamonds are doing at this present time.
Diamond Bastard at 19:35:25 Sunday November 24 2002
Old Stratford Cobbler, I wouldn't know - haven't read the Non-League Paper since about June 2001. I can understand why Cobblers fans are showing an interest in reading it now though - who knows what league you'll find yourself in when the money runs out?!
Old Stratford Cobbler at 19:16:59 Sunday November 24 2002
Check out the Non League newspaper that comes out on a Sunday- it's got match report on Dustbin and Liners' match yesterday. Says it all doesn't it? "Non League, you'll ALWAYS be Non League"!!!
MK Cobbler at 18:50:13 Sunday November 24 2002
Much of what Ted writes is the truth but he ignores the relaity of the present situation. The club is in deep trouble and there is nor sign of a money bags. Therefore, we have to deal with the immediate crisis and survive this season off the pitch. This means the supporters digging deep. On the pitch the side played brilliantly yesterday and more performances like that and the stadium will soon see bigger gates.
Anon at 18:45:25 Sunday November 24 2002
And do you think your comments are positive Ted?
Steve at 18:07:12 Sunday November 24 2002
More Gabbi adulation stuff - he's also cut out all the diving and falling over. He's patently enjoying every minute of his football, and it shows.
Steve at 18:04:58 Sunday November 24 2002
I used to post loads of times, but, like a lot of people, I'm totally hacked off with the all the mindless drivel. But - I have to say, yesterday's performance was simply great - in all departments. God knows what's happened to Gabbi this season. If only he could have shown this sort of commitment in his first couple of seasons. His play was sensational. He tackled back, he passed with instinctive accuracy, he takes people on going forward (you can see the defenders visibly panicking) and his goals - well, they are top drawer quality. I've been trying to think of players over my 35 years of watching who've shown such all round skill, and I'm really struggling. O.K., Hill and Morley were class players, but I just think those who aren't turning up at the moment should get down to Sixfields and watch, just for the privelige of watching a top footballer at work. They should get down there soon, cos he won't be around forever. One worry - what would we have been like without Gabbi. He's going to get injured soon. Then we'll see if we're a one man team. It's amazing when you think that, at the start of the season, before Stamp got injured, the club virtually announced that Gabbi's legs had gone and that he be mostly used as a super-sub.
Ted at 17:22:17 Sunday November 24 2002
Mark-I'll tell you why people aren't coming, they know what they'll find beggers and begging buckets.I've got nearly half a century of experience dealing with Northamptonshire people.They don`t like parting with their money unless they get something in return.As I said earlier the club needs a complete shake-up,it needs investment and nobody in their right mind would invest in just a football club.The stadium must become part of the deal for the club to have a future.It's in a popular part of the town with regard to leisure,and something should be happening at the stadium every day and night of the week.The club needs to be seen to be moving forward.Every night in the Chron it's "cash strapped Cobblers"and telling people that if the 500k isn't raised it's the end of the club.Well people look at what has been raised,and they see that the club is dying.People want to spend a saturday afternoon getting away from all their troubles and woes,not paying good money for more.Mr negative Riches doesn't help,almost enjoying martyr status.This is the trouble!
TRB Mark at 16:14:25 Sunday November 24 2002
We are looking for backers, donations, handouts etc etc. But the bottom line is we need to sell the product that is what this club is all about, that is, the matches! Yesterday we could have easily accomodated 2,000 more people which would have bought in about £30,000. I think the club ought to look at ways of getting people through the turnstiles and converting more of the locals into fans or getting old fans back. Maybe it's worth doing a survey to find out the reason why people don't turn up or why supporters lapse.
A Childs View at 14:27:24 Sunday November 24 2002
Stuck at bloody work today waiting for IT people to get their life together!! Fantastic performance yesterday - the league form is excellent at the moment. Yesterday's team was the best we can put out at Northampton - KB - don't go and change it when the likes of McGregor, Stamp, Spedds and Frain are fit again - if it ain't broke don't attempt to fix it! Carruthers and Hargreaves work well, Gilly and Asa are nicely balanced. Trolly and Harsley look good as a pair and Gabbs and Jamie are, as predicted many season a go, looking like a useful partnership provided we play football and don't just hoof it. Jamie's lob was great - the picture on Goodlad's face as he watched it, in slow mo, drop over his head was brilliant!! Great stuff - we've gone on a level over recent league games (we'll forget the cup) - long may it continue!!
Ted at 14:27:19 Sunday November 24 2002
Cynic- Your dead right!With all the good will in the world,the SOS fund is not going to save the club.It might delay the inevitable,but we need someone to come in and run the club as a business,and that must include the stadium.Kevan is doing wonders with the team.What a display yesterday!Pitiful crowd to watch it though.
of course at 14:00:48 Sunday November 24 2002
of course it would bugger up the SOS appeal but do think Atkins cares whether it closes down the club or not?
9224 at 13:51:54 Sunday November 24 2002
What's the IA dispute? Is he sueing us? How much for? On what grounds? Will this bugger up the SOS Appeal?
Anon at 12:19:10 Sunday November 24 2002
we know
Atkins at 12:17:51 Sunday November 24 2002
The Atkins case is at the start of December, the details were in the Chron, apparantly TCMP is showing up in court as a witness for the club. Sparks should really fly. Now if we can get Atkins and TCMP in a boxing ring to settle the issue, then that would make a fortune for the SOS appeal what would the odds on each of them be?
welchy at 11:55:29 Sunday November 24 2002
Torquay United have signed former Northampton Town and Tranmere Rovers goalkeeper Keith Welch on non-contract forms.
Anon at 10:54:24 Sunday November 24 2002
yes, i would just love persimmon homes to be interested in buying us for our ground, like they are up there
Cynic at 09:43:06 Sunday November 24 2002
Well done to all who want to save NTFC , and well done on the LOWEST gate in the second division yesterday. Not a bloody snowball in hells chance to save the club looking at it in the cold light of day.WE NEED A BACKER NOW. We cant do it all on our own. If someone does come along then the council MUST sell the ground because that is what is putting people off, just look at the mess pooboro' are in but they have someone interested, all because they own the ground!!!!!!
Anon at 08:50:27 Sunday November 24 2002
I think we should concentrate on the positive for once. Best performance in a long time. Goals class.
Anon at 23:04:21 Saturday November 23 2002
No - we nearly fell into our typical "cruising" trap.
Anon at 21:45:43 Saturday November 23 2002
I am the only one but if we hadn't sat back for 20 mins in the second half we would have scored at least six today.......
great win at 20:47:25 Saturday November 23 2002
Ok... so i meant Exquisite!!
Great win at 20:44:52 Saturday November 23 2002
Port Vale managed to scrape 358 fans,pretty meagre considering its only just up the M6.....or the M1 and A50 if you like.
According to their website "Forresters goal was equisite" i didnt see Robbbie (w*****) Williams there!
Vince at 20:34:20 Saturday November 23 2002
Total revised to £1718.30 thanks to late donation of £25 - new total is £13259.14
rashkú the basher at 20:21:50 Saturday November 23 2002
simple ask youself what when and how it happens i can't understand why the goal was allowed to stand when it was all ok with the man in the middle how can that happen in todays society feeling one must eat ones words again not the same as agreeing with the article present i hope the enjoyment of the game today was not destroyed by the final injustice lets hope it will happen to a nice holiday for him he should be ok.now you know my feeling on this matter!!!!!!!
Vince at 20:19:42 Saturday November 23 2002
£1693.30 was collected before todays game with Port Vale bringing the total collected so far to £13,234.14. Thanks to everyone who made a donation and to those who collected
Tarquin at 19:40:29 Saturday November 23 2002
'Anon at 12:18:59 Saturday November 23 2002' oh laddie i bought several council houses and i am still buying them,it so easy to make a few readys,i buy um of council tenants then rent them back to more council tenants for 4 times the price,which means every one or two months i can buy another one or two it such a life,ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
west stand woman at 19:22:30 Saturday November 23 2002
what a result two good goals from Marco and Jamie i thought that Stamp probly needs a bit longer to recover but played okay i also think that Gabbi deserved man of the match i think that the whole team had a good performence and played well together i hope that they can do it every week
TRB Mark at 18:06:37 Saturday November 23 2002
Those stay aways missed a great performance from the Cobbs today. Two classic goal, the first from Gabbi and Jamie with the third, both chips/lobs over the goalie. Were getting good at scoring like that! Thanks to all who bought and helped sell the Christmas cards *(especial tthanks to Rob Marshall). A tad over £100 raised today with the total now standing at £273. Cheers!
Anon at 17:51:41 Saturday November 23 2002
Maybe the nonsense has gone over my head here but didn't Kevin Wilson get us into the 2nd? yes. that day at wembley meant nothing
Anon at 17:51:04 Saturday November 23 2002
250-300 tops
Deepcut Cobbler at 17:14:41 Saturday November 23 2002
Again not a big crowd. How many did Vale bring?
Anon at 17:13:07 Saturday November 23 2002
3-0 final score, Gabbi x 2, Jamie the other
Anon at 17:07:11 Saturday November 23 2002
Final score 3-0 (Forrester got the third). We are up to 12th - top half!
Anon at 16:45:49 Saturday November 23 2002
What`s the score?
Anon at 16:21:01 Saturday November 23 2002
2-0, Gabbiadini 56
Anon at 16:05:51 Saturday November 23 2002
1-0, Gabbiadini 38
nsb at 15:25:33 Saturday November 23 2002
can anyone tell me whats happening at the game?
Anon at 12:18:59 Saturday November 23 2002
Tarquin-I bet you bought your council house though didn`t you?
tarquin at 11:54:25 Saturday November 23 2002
Atkins like that evil old witch i've heard it all now,please go and have a lie down Ted,
Ted at 11:05:34 Saturday November 23 2002
Ian Atkins did for the Cobblers what Maggie Thatcher did for this country.He woke the club up from it's slumber,showed us a way forward and brought us success.Unfortunately just like Maggie his success went to his head, became stubborn and had to be ousted.End of story!
Rob Dunkley at 10:25:24 Saturday November 23 2002
Yes, but a) we had one of the best teams b) Kevan was assistant manager and we all know what happened when he left to our results. The regard Wilson is held in the game is reflected by being out of work for a year and ending up quitting full time football management.
Ralph2. at 10:05:53 Saturday November 23 2002
Maybe the nonsense has gone over my head here but didn't Kevin Wilson get us into the 2nd?
Anon at 08:22:15 Saturday November 23 2002
er and got us back there again it was Twatkins,foolboy>>>>>>>>
Anon at 02:59:02 Saturday November 23 2002
yeah, but we're in division 2 now. under barnwell we were in the 3rd and going down. now who was it who got us there again?
Anon at 02:51:17 Saturday November 23 2002
ATKINS FOUND GUILTY. Notorious Birmingham imposter and fraudster, Ian Atkins, was found guily at Northampton Crown Court yesterday on a charge of murdering the beautiful game. He has been sentenced to a life of watching videos of Oxford United. Jurors spent several days reviewing forensic material but could find no evidence of a ball. There was however overwhelming circumstancial evidence of foul play. His attorney had pleaded on defensive grounds of diminished responsibility.
Whos the twat at 22:08:10 Friday November 22 2002
Balancing up a Twat's view at 13:07:03 Saturday November 16 2002
'You forgot to mention two Wembley appearances, a win a Wembley, one win away from the first division, dumping a premiership side out of the league cup, winning promotion, and getting the highest league gate at Sixfields, and the highest ever club attendance at Wembley'.ER YOU FORGOT ABOUT HIM BLEEDING THE CLUB DRY ARSEHOLE SO F*CK OFF WITH YOU ATKINS LOVING VIEWS TO OXFORD.
TRB Mark at 18:42:41 Friday November 22 2002
Danny, the cards are £4.00 for ten with £3.00 of that going to the SOS. Rob Marshall will be selling them between 2.00pm and at start of the game at the bottom of the Stairs. I havn't asked the club shop (nor they me) cos the problem is that a chunk of the money ends up getting paid as VAT. The cards have been pretty successful as I donated about £1500 to the Trust in previous years as well as about £100 to Macmillan Cancer and the club have also made a few hundred from what they have sold through the shop. One year I sold about 100 cards to Leeds Utd supporters club MK branch! If nothing else, it help spreads the word cos when was the last time anyone ever got a Christmas card from another club?
Bazza at 18:35:24 Friday November 22 2002
Perhaps Mr Atkins would like to donate whatever we owe him to the SOS fund?
Anon at 18:18:38 Friday November 22 2002
Apparantly there is some problem with the continuing payment of Ian Atkins' contract.
How long a contract did we give him?!
Bazza at 18:14:00 Friday November 22 2002
I heard today that Lazio is up for sale and interested parties include the Gadaffi family and Henry Kissinger. No mention of dodgy italian lawyers though.
Danny at 15:57:57 Friday November 22 2002
Thanks for clearing that up Jim. TRB Mark, i'm sure as Christmas comes ever nearer more and more cards will go. What are the prices?
Santa at 14:44:43 Friday November 22 2002
Well done TRB Mark, if every Cobblers fan raised that amount the SOS target would easily be exceeded.
George - Bucks No1 Cobbler at 13:14:22 Friday November 22 2002
Keith Welch has signed for Torquay United on a short term deal. Hes covering their two injured keepers.
United Front at 13:01:50 Friday November 22 2002
Apparantly there is some problem with the continuing payment of Ian Atkins' contract.
9224 at 11:33:07 Friday November 22 2002
Kettcobb - My Dad and I would like to sponsor you for when you sit on our seats in the West Stand - could you email me and send me details?
9224 at 11:30:07 Friday November 22 2002
What court case? - TCMP?
Anon at 10:36:52 Friday November 22 2002
Well done Drilling - good luck with that.
the drilling cobbler at 08:16:24 Friday November 22 2002
To anon late last night - I am personnaly in the process of trying to generate a sponsor for the Trust - ironically the 5-10k that you mention is the kind of figure we are hoping to get. A letter is in the process of being written(it should have been done last week but my own work committments have not allowed me to finish it yet) which will be initially sent out to a hit list of local large business's - I will then be following up those letters and attempting to sell them the benefits. If anyone has any appropriate contacts who potentially could be interested please email me.
Anon at 08:12:32 Friday November 22 2002
Anon to Anon: I think the bigger questions is what exactly has our Chief Exec been doing about approaching the bigger companies in the area.
stupid question at 07:35:56 Friday November 22 2002
wot court case
TRB Mark at 00:37:33 Friday November 22 2002
At the Sixfield travel club AGM, Barry Stonhill (to answer someone's question) said that the Atkins v NTFC court case was happening in December. Maybe we ought to sell tickets or run a book on the outcome! Then have a bare knuckled re-match at the Derngate...last one standing wins, as long as it's BS. The Christmas card total stands at £174. A piddly amount in the greater scheme of things but I like to think that those who have bought them feel that they are contributing to the cause..and getting something in return. Barry Stonhill asked the question why no-one, apart from the faithful was bothering to help. I think the reason is that people like to be associated with success and handing out the begging bowl doesn't give that image. In some respects we are more successful as a club, compard to 10 years ago/last crisis. The hardcore of fans has doubled, we have a new ground, been to Wembley twice (and look how everyone wanted to be associated with the club then) and (I think) are currently enjoying our longest period (if you discount the year we spent in Div 3) in 30 years, out of the bottom division. But as we are from Northants, lets be constantly negative.
Anon at 00:02:36 Friday November 22 2002
you know what i dont understand? all this lot having a bash at the trust. im not a member of them but we're all on the same side. we all want professional football in northampton in the year 2003 so why have a pop at them? i dont expect an answer as they that have a go dont seem to have any reasons as to why they do it, but i just dont ubderstand it.
Anon at 23:53:26 Thursday November 21 2002
To anyone from the Trust - has the Trust approached companies like Barclaycard, Nationwide and Carlsberg to see if they would be interested in sponsoring the organisation? With Trusts being formed up and down the country (NTFC being the first) and supporters direct giving Trusts a national profile a big company may possibly be interested in stumping up 5/10k to be associated with the Trust.
who else? at 23:18:20 Thursday November 21 2002
anyone else you hate Ted or is your bigotry simply reserved for 60% population of the town you have just identified? As a leftie from the Eastern District I don't think I would want to travel on the same road as you mate let alone the same bus. Toe Poke the club can't afford to have reserve games at night as the cost of the floodlights is more than they get in from the crowd, at least that was what was said a few years ago and I supposed it has not changed.
Ted at 22:46:07 Thursday November 21 2002
I'm thinking of starting up Ted's Travel Club.Anyone interested? No asylum seekers,gypsy's,lefties or people from the eastern district allowed.
jimttc at 22:21:55 Thursday November 21 2002
Danny, The Trust Travel club did not make £9000 last year, It was The Trust organisation as a whole that raised this amount. The travel club in fact made a small loss, whuch we funded from profits in the previous year. We run the travel club as a service to our members and charge as low a price as possible for the benefit of those members, although non-members are always welcome at no extra charge (we might try to persuade them to join though.Provided we have more than forty on the coach (as we have on all but two games this year) a profit will be made which will be passed to the supporters trust and then to the club.
Anon at 22:10:53 Thursday November 21 2002
That was mainly due to it being Arsenal to be fair! I wouldnt wanna watch the reserves in all honesty,especially against nomarks like Leyton Orient!
toe poke at 20:32:48 Thursday November 21 2002
How much longer can the Cobblers continue to play reserve team footballon awednesday afternoon and only get afew bob out of it. If the Cobblers really want to make money play the matches at night. A quid a kid and a donation from adults we be better than the money we get at the moment. remember the night a couple of years ago when Arsenal played here and we had abigger crowd than the first team.
oldbrook cobbler at 20:09:18 Thursday November 21 2002
sounds like a good call bazza.........why not?....after all arnt we all on the same side here??
Bazza at 18:52:30 Thursday November 21 2002
I know this is an old one but do we really need three travel clubs? Can't you all get together and form one which suits everybody?
9224 at 18:18:04 Thursday November 21 2002
marco, could you email me when you read this?
Danny at 17:26:09 Thursday November 21 2002
We're not fighting or trying to undercut anybody. We normally charge £10 for most away trips (it was £15 for Plymouth) while the other two normally charge less, quite how they make any profit and were able to donate £9,000 each at the end of last season is beyond me, clearly we are doing something very wrong!!!!! If you really want to see the balance sheets for each match and the bank book, come find me and i'll arrange a time to show you, we are not trying to hide anything as there simply is nothing to hide, we purely run to allow supporters to travel to away matches, not to make any profit.
put up the ticket prices at 17:02:45 Thursday November 21 2002
Danny, One thing all the travel clubs could do is to put up its ticket prices all three still try to undercut each other and the club loses out as a consequence. This was why many people were so angry when Sixfields travel started up. The cost of away travel on cobblers coaches is far too cheap and that is why every travel club struggles to make any profit which could be donated to the club. But Danny one thing the independant travel club could do that both Sixfields and the Trust do is to publish your accounts, that way no one could suggest that the profit however small is pocketed. So come on travel clubs get your act together, talk to each other, decide a price for each game and help the club out instead of fighting between each other.
Danny at 16:46:16 Thursday November 21 2002
BUT IF, you're question "what is Sixfields and Independent doing?" I know everyone who travels with the Independent has sponsored various peoples events, such as Woz on the bowling marathon and Matty on his sponsored walk. I know a lot of us put £2 in the trusts buckets at every home game etc etc. some of us were at Chicago's on Tuesday. So we're not running an event ourselves but all of us are doing our bit where we can. And as for "who's pocketing all the money?" What money???? When we do make a profit it is used to cover the cost of trips that are less popular such as Oldham on a tuesday night. There's only so much supporters can do, most of us are on £20,000 a year and under, have mortgages and bills to pay etc, a lot of people seem to forget that and slate others for not doing more. Believe me, if I could do more or donate more money, I would, but as much as I love The Cobblers, I place a higher priority on my own keeping my own finances in check and keeping the wolves away from my door than I do the Clubs. We have reached £200,000 by people organising events and people sponsoring them, and these amounts, no matter how large or small, have seen ordinary folk such as me and you raise £100,000 between us. If us supporters as a whole can do that through December and January Town will be safe. As for the local companies, you watch, one of them will step in with the shortfall in mid to late January, the Chron will hail Carlsberg, the saviours of Northampton Town FC!!!
aged 15!! at 16:45:40 Thursday November 21 2002
but still the height of a 11 year old!!!!! midfield Terrier!!!
don't forget at 15:53:21 Thursday November 21 2002
Kett Cobb, Dont forget the wheelchair companion seats on all four sides by the pitch and the few at the back of the East Stand. There are also some temporary seats in the TV box, oh and what about the two dugouts, dont forget them, and when you are finished then why not pop up the hill and sit on the bank for a few seconds, then you will have seen the pitch from every possible angle.
KettCobb at 14:51:00 Thursday November 21 2002
That doesn't bear thinking about!
LH at 14:22:18 Thursday November 21 2002
No, but if its cold you'll catch a dose of Farmer Giles !
Bazza at 14:00:33 Thursday November 21 2002
KETTCOB, good luck with sponsored seat sit, I'd take a cushion if I were you! Is it true that you can catch AIDS from sitting on someone elses seat?
jimttc at 13:25:37 Thursday November 21 2002
Mr Atkinson, get your facts right!! I was 15 years old.
Thanks Jim at 12:22:54 Thursday November 21 2002
Jim ignore sad bar%$a£*s like anon at 02.23 I think he is the same guy who posted as C Sense earlier given his attitude to the local community and moaning about not being richer and having to pay more tax etc I think it could be our Max from down the road. Anyway thanks for responding re the travel clubs question that was posted earlier. I see Sixfields have not bothered. Perhaps someone should ask them tonight at there agm how they can level their air of self importance with the fact that so far they have managed just £1200 pound for the SOS fund. Does the Trust Travel Club give money to the Trust and if so how much has been given recently. also who runs the independent travel club as I know nothing about them and want to know who is taking all the cash.
MEMORY LANE RECORD - FISH MARKET at 10:39:33 Thursday November 21 2002
first donation of records for the SOS in the shop, ready for sale tomorrow when we are open (also Saturdays and Wednesday), and a BIG thanks to Gas Holder Cobbler for the donation, you know who you are! please dont be shy, dig out that vinyl and please contact me, ALL proceeds go to the Club and you can see me too!!; email me on; hotelender@yahoo.co.uk
Watford FC at 10:35:55 Thursday November 21 2002
To Jim T is it true that aged 11 you tried to sign for Watford FC, but the police brought you back to Northampton???
jimttc at 06:45:25 Thursday November 21 2002
Anon, If everyone thinks the way you do we will not have a club to support. Thankfully this is not the case. To answer your question, The trust has always been involved in fundraising and passed over 10,000 over to the club last year (before this crisis occured). With regards to the matter of a second director, this was a case of pursuing a broken promise from Mr Stonhill (some years ago) that the Trust would get a second Director once it had raised £100,000, although personnally I couldnt give a toss about whether we have a second Director or not. Finally why do you feel it neccessary to hide behind the anonomous tag? Have the courage of your convictions and identify yourself.
Anon at 02:23:28 Thursday November 21 2002
Nothing Jim. Cause I don't want any of my well earned money going to people who can't run a business. The directors, the trust and the trust travel club. Seriously if the trust had all the shares in the club how would they finance the club on a year to year basis without asking the fans to put in again? And while i'm having a go, why didn't the trust start fundraising earlier rather than campaigning (like a spoilt brat) for a second directors seat??
jimttc at 22:50:42 Wednesday November 20 2002
The Trust Travel Club have made just over £400 so far this year & this has covered the costs of the money boxes (1,000 of them) and this will hopfuly generate well in excess of that amount. Anthony Collett, myself and three of my offspring, including my 8 year old daughter have also turned up to each home game two hours before kick off to collect donations on the Car Parks. What exactly have you done??
oldbrook cobbler at 21:35:39 Wednesday November 20 2002
friend told me there was about 150 at chicagos last night
C sense at 21:14:22 Wednesday November 20 2002
I would say the rich list of northampton have got better things to do with their money at the present time,Stockmarkets are suffering, increases in NIC contributions for businesses next year, increased competition from overseas markets,and employers liability insurance going through the roof, I am sure the business comunity of Northampton have got more important things on their agenda than worrying about the Cobblers.
Anon at 20:38:57 Wednesday November 20 2002
or ted
LH at 19:52:53 Wednesday November 20 2002
The Cobblers have got an FA Cup live T.V game . Oxford V Swindon
DR4E at 19:48:05 Wednesday November 20 2002
i love boys
redscouse at 19:27:43 Wednesday November 20 2002
And by the way I haven't herd from that sheep-shagging ,tractor driving inbred from Rushite and Direones lately.........is he dead or not??
Redscouse at 19:25:15 Wednesday November 20 2002
I am all for having a go at the major company's in this town who sponsor Premiership teams and league to the tune of millions every year,sadly my missus works for one of them .The problem lies in that the people who run the sponsorship side of these companies are actually based in Big plush offices in the city and wouldn't even know were N'pton was let alone sposor its football team.It's a sad fact but one we won't get away from ..............
KettCobb at 19:12:54 Wednesday November 20 2002
The banner idea is a superb idea if you ask me,bloody good slogans aswell! DO IT! Or if you cant be bothered or afford making a banner or dont know how to go about it then ask for out help.
nationwide at 19:05:39 Wednesday November 20 2002
at least the nationwide sponsor the shirts and I think the west stand is sponsored by them as well they have there logo on the outside of it.
banners at 19:04:21 Wednesday November 20 2002
perhaps someone could do a joint banner along the lines of that mentioned below about Carlsberg and Barclycard with their logos on. Then we might find that when we get close to a FA cup telivised clash they might take notice of us
Anon at 17:46:14 Wednesday November 20 2002
we should have got the lot seeing how its been cobbs players keeping that place going for the last couple of years
Anon at 17:45:39 Wednesday November 20 2002
how did the proceeds get split? did we just get ticket sales or a cut of the bar as well?
Anon at 17:44:57 Wednesday November 20 2002
p.s you watch, soon as greggs is fit, out will go delboy and he'll waltz straight back in
Anon at 17:44:26 Wednesday November 20 2002
could we play all 3, forredter gabbs & stamp up front with asamoah right wing. probably a bit too attacking though given our lack of pace at the back. maybe gabbs either starting first hour with one of the other 2 coming on for him or playing last 30 with one of the other 2 coming off?
LH at 17:41:20 Wednesday November 20 2002
Was the do at Chicago's well attended ? Anybody go ?
LH at 17:39:32 Wednesday November 20 2002
Watched the first half of the Reserves game today. Thought Stamp looked sharp , controlled the ball well and really tried to link the play , for not a huge guy his timing is very good in the air and his flick ons remind us what we have been missing. Having only ever seen him for a short time against Crewe , I think Broadhust is right in that it will give the team another dimension. Would you want to drop Gabbi though ? McGregor was ,well , McGregor . Good one minute then couldnt cross the road the next , showed willing though and talked the younger players along. Spedding looked very rusty , played
centre half , a position that with his little bit of pace quite suits him I think. Greg Lincoln showed glimpses of being able to pass the ball quite well , played center mid.
Sean from London at 16:54:35 Wednesday November 20 2002
Paul Trollope came on for Wales at the end of the game. Northampton Town - international class team!!
Sean from London at 16:33:35 Wednesday November 20 2002
Paul Trollope's lads are winning 2-0.
Cobblers going to Portugal - up the Welsh (the new-Irish) and of course the old-Irish
United Front at 15:04:09 Wednesday November 20 2002
I think you make some very good points, and I would love to see banners with the slogans that you suggested on them (they would be sure to create some kind of "negative" publicity and could possibly shame them into some kind of action). However, I can see the viewpoint of the major businesses in the town (Carlsberg, Barclaycard etc) when you consider the fact that they are not being offered anything in return, and they are unlikely to do anything out of the goodness of their own heart. We would be in a stronger position if we owned the ground and were able to offer companies a chance to sponsor a stand or executive box, but we don't. Does anyone know if there is any way that the Council could allow the sponsoring of the stands to take place? What I don't understand, however, is the (apparant) reluctance of businesses and companies on the Sixfields site itself to help out when you consider their loss in revenue if we were to go bust.
Fundraising at 13:56:07 Wednesday November 20 2002
If you break the £500,000 target down you can start to see where the problem lies i.e the current board £100,000 and the Trust with a target of £35-50,000 will have played there part but the response from other quarters has been dismal. Business's in Northampton should hang there heads in shame, and the general public have been pathetic. only 3,300 people from the town turned out for the FA cup tie, crowds are approaching the depths of R&D levels god help us. and the towns rich list have done sweet FA about putting in a bit from their own vast fortunes and as any donation would be tax deductable would obviously rather give there money to the taxman. Also the Chron and Echo seem to be getting good coverage from the SOS appeal, but how much have they put in? Northants Police make a fortune out of us in a season and agaim I can't remember anything about a cheque coming from wooton hall, Eurest are the same and the council could perhaps do a bit more. perhaps we should also have a couple of big banners at home games one saying "Carlsberg, probably the meanest company in Northampton" and another saying "Barclycard, not acceptable here" what do people think?
United Front at 13:43:52 Wednesday November 20 2002
It is very bad news about Rickers, but I suppose if you are cold-hearted about it, I would rather it was Rickers than say Gabbas or Harsley. Gill will be back on Saturday and hopefully McGregor will be available too. Add this to Stamp and Spedding nearing fitness, and we are possibly turning the corner as far as injuries are concerned. I don't think the board being quiet is down to a general feeling of contentment, I think that a lot of people are thinking "what more can I/we do to raise funds ?" We are constantly being told that the SOS appeal is not raising enough money and that the club will go into administration/liquidation if the target is not achieved, but the only way we will do it is with schemes that will raise big sums and not £1,000 here and £500 there (although every bit helps).
LH at 13:11:25 Wednesday November 20 2002
Bad news about Rickers. I thought he was having quite a good game.
Certainly changed the pattern of the game last Saturday . I thought Burgess played like what he was , a centre half stuck at right back.
Hence all their pressure atacking us down our right. Some good goals
though . Very quite on the boards is everbody content ?
Anon at 22:13:48 Tuesday November 19 2002
www.thefootballforums.cjb.net for chat with fans from across the country, its new so there aren't that many members yet, but watch it grow!
if.. at 20:44:55 Tuesday November 19 2002
if the money boxes were bigger and then they got nicked then the culprit would walk away with even more money?
but if... at 20:42:26 Tuesday November 19 2002
but if we were not raising the money now and dont spend it now in paying the debts and keeping the club going then we will fold now so whats the point of the if.... if.... if.... questions surely people have worked out for themselves that it is more a question of now or never. Apart from the directors £100,000 and the efforts of the Trust, no body else seems to have raised anything other than the odd few hundred. Somebody asked the question of where the travel clubs spend there money and on what on surely now more than ever they should answer the question, all three of them, I pose it to them on here. Sixfields Travel, The Trust, Independent Travel, how much have you raised so far this season and what have you given to the SOS campaign, and wher have you spent the rest?
Mac McCormack's Magic Sponge at 20:26:32 Tuesday November 19 2002
Sorry to have asked what is apparently a dumb-ass question. I have been out of the country for a while. So the amount raised is being put to use as we speak, that's all well and good, but if we don't succeed in raising the amount of cash needed it'll all have been a waste of time, effort and not forgetting money. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
MK Cobbler at 20:17:15 Tuesday November 19 2002
I received my money box today and will put it to good effect. I hope the Trust have sufficient boxes to leave in the pubs and shops etc. My only thought is that the box is on the small side if it was to be left at the check-outs of Tesco but I am an optimist.
new news of old friends at 19:15:21 Tuesday November 19 2002
I just heard from a contact in Cambridge that our old friend Di Stefano is being sued by his sons college, for...... guess what? Not paying his bills!! surely there has been some mistake, after all he has so many people in Northampton who can give him a good character reference. Perhaps he is busy noting down all the good things said about him on the clubs official site so he can use them in his defense? Talking of courts whatever happened to the Atkins case has it been heard has he dropped it or what anyone know?
old news at 17:20:01 Tuesday November 19 2002
I am sure that some people like mac macormacks sponge ask dumb questions on purpose, his question about what happens to the money etc was answered on here by TCMP 2 weeks ago has been in the programme and he chron and is also in the Trust's newsletter!! so if he is a fan how can he miss so many answers to a question he only gets round to asking 4 weeks after everyone else has asked it?
Anon at 16:22:26 Tuesday November 19 2002
McCormicks Magic Sponge, the money raised has already been used, there is not a fund building up waiting to be opened on 31st Jan - the club need the extra money now to help ensure survival by 31st Jan.
MEMORY LANE COBBLERS SOS APPEAL at 15:15:12 Tuesday November 19 2002
I am open tomorrow in the Fish Market and Friday and Saturday, bring your vinyl along - ALL money goes to the SOS Appeal, I can pick up larger quantities.
EBAY AUCTIONS at 13:36:33 Tuesday November 19 2002
There are some cobblers vs scum programmes on Ebay if anyone is interested.
EBay at 12:01:50 Tuesday November 19 2002
Recent program auction Bristol Rovers v Cobblers 1946 £110 winning bid!
MEMORY LANE RECORDS - FISH MARKET at 11:42:56 Tuesday November 19 2002
Thanks to the first donor of LP records, once sold all money will be going to the SOS fund
Anon at 11:27:49 Tuesday November 19 2002
The money raised isnt just sitting in the vaults at sixfields, its being spent as the club gets it, paying off creditors. The only thing that will happen if not enough is raised is that remaining creditors, like the tax man, will come knocking at the door.
Mac McCormack's Magic Sponge at 10:55:03 Tuesday November 19 2002
Wondering - what happens to all the money raised if it turns out not to be enough?
Tab A into Slot B at 21:42:36 Monday November 18 2002
Yes, those money boxes are OK, just put mine together and will be taking it to work, every little help, lets save the Cobblers! Liked the newsletter too.
qpr are crap at 19:50:38 Monday November 18 2002
qpr are just a very poor side, good quality players, but can't work as a team and they are all overpaid. I would not be surprised if Vauhhall go on and win. Good luck to Kidderminster as well, and yep the money boxes are cool.
Anon at 19:32:21 Monday November 18 2002
Poor old Ian Holloway.....mugged again at Vauxhall Motors.
anon at 18:37:56 Monday November 18 2002
what money box?
money box at 18:37:13 Monday November 18 2002
got my money box from the trust today, great idea and the newsletter was not a bad read either, got to hand it to them they seem to have got their heads together and are delivering the goods. Where can we get more money boxes from as I want to take a couple into work?
Anon at 14:50:40 Monday November 18 2002
I am auctioning some of Myra Hindleys underwear for the Cobblers SOS appeal and her blonde wig
marco at 13:17:10 Monday November 18 2002
cobblers reject news of the day - Charlie Bishop the player sacked by Atkins after being subbed in a game (if I remember rightly) is the new manager at Ilkeston Town. His first signings are Chris Freestone and Carl Heggs!
Sean from London at 12:32:24 Monday November 18 2002
Cambridgeshire Police are auctioning signed football shirts for Jessica & Holly fund - including a Cobblers shirt. Go to
http://www.cambs.police.uk/camops/auction/ and bid high!
Mr Logic at 12:19:48 Monday November 18 2002
If we are good enough we will stuff Cams or Scarface, if we lose we werent good enough, but a scrap in the Cambridge allotments - heaven!!
Anon at 11:04:02 Monday November 18 2002
west stand woman at 17:39:11 Sunday November 17 2002 yeah but so are Man U rubbish so we'll be straight into round 4
Anon at 10:14:33 Monday November 18 2002
Thats outrageous he shares them with me!!
XMas Cards at 10:12:40 Monday November 18 2002
Whats Rolys cut? he never does anything for nothing, donate some programmes, ever seen any rare ones donated on his table????
Mark Pacan at 21:32:00 Sunday November 17 2002
Thanks to anyone who bought the Christmas cards yesterday and via the post, and a big thanks to Rob Marshal for selling them.
Rob has agreed to sell them again before the Vale game and Roly Jordan has some on his programme stall. So far this year £96.00
has been raised for the SOS appeal
If you want to see the four cards available go to http://www.pacan.com/cobbmas.htm
west stand woman at 17:39:11 Sunday November 17 2002
Cambridge are a rubbish side i think that scabro will beat them in the replay and cause a very big upset but of course we will win in the second round and go on hopefully to play the likes of Arsenal Liverpool or Man u
Anon at 16:46:02 Sunday November 17 2002
well it wont will it? when we still had 11 men on tuesday cambridge were made to look a very pathetic team so as long as we keep 11 men on the pitch we will piss all over them. plus this cup matters, we can make serious cash in this without having to win it
Bright spark at 16:04:15 Sunday November 17 2002
If its Cambridge away then that will be really tough for you.
Anon at 15:07:27 Sunday November 17 2002
scarboro or cambridge away. oh joy
Anon at 14:23:47 Sunday November 17 2002
Well done to the Trust and everyone who donates to the Car Parking scheme, with a bit of luck we should be able to raise £20k before the end of january.
Anon at 12:43:21 Sunday November 17 2002
Are you Mystic Meg? The draw's at 3pm.
FA Cup Draw at 12:06:07 Sunday November 17 2002
Just been made we have Oldham or Burton Albion
Anon at 11:58:53 Sunday November 17 2002
..... the big queue is because theres only one sheep.
OR at 07:00:12 Sunday November 17 2002
......the big queue is for the village cake making contest.
OR at 06:57:41 Sunday November 17 2002
.......the big queue is for the Job Centre...
Deepcut Cobbler at 06:56:44 Sunday November 17 2002
A tourist is visiting Northamptonshire. He decides he would like to go to a football match. He asks a local which ground to visit. 'Well' replied the man 'Sixfields is the best but the Cobblers are playing away, Nene Park is not far away, go straight down this road and you will see two queues, a little queue, and a big queue. You want the little queue, cos the big queue is for the fish & chip shop'
Or make up your own last line!
Vince at 20:27:29 Saturday November 16 2002
Before today's game with Boston £1520.20 was collected.
Thanks to all who donated and to those who helped with the collection.
The total collected to date is now £11,580.84
Ralph at 19:19:16 Saturday November 16 2002
Rickers has a broken leg and will miss the remainder of the season. The curse of the right-back position strikes again.
west stand woman at 18:58:29 Saturday November 16 2002
what happend to Rickers anybody know? if so how long on sidelines?
F.A draw is at 18:15:22 Saturday November 16 2002
......tomorrow at 3pm BBC1.
Anon at 17:25:04 Saturday November 16 2002
when is the next round draw?
Hugh Jarse at 13:21:16 Saturday November 16 2002
Shed 7 were at the Roadmender on Wednesday, so all you stay at home pc nerds missed areally great night out. Ably supported by local band The High Drivers. Marco is a mate of front man Rick Witter so it was no surprise to see Marco at the gig. Also seen enjoying the moment were Paul MacGregor (dodgy boots), Richard Hope, Jamie Forrester (well dodgy shirt), Chris Hargreaves and Paul Harsley. REally good night out, good after-gig party attended by the Cobbs players and as I said earlier great effort from The High Drivers, you should really get out more and try and catch this local band.
Balancing up a Twat's view at 13:07:03 Saturday November 16 2002
You forgot to mention two Wembley appearances, a win a Wembley, one win away from the first division, dumping a premiership side out of the league cup, winning promotion, and getting the highest league gate at Sixfields, and the highest ever club attendance at Wembley.
the atkins diet at 23:29:41 Friday November 15 2002
Heard about a new diet called,weirdly enough the Atkins diet,wot you have to do is,keep a football in the air for a long as possible,make strange hand movements,sign anyone from Birmingham,fall out with all around you and blame everyone else,oh and when that fails, move to Oxford.
Tarquin at 19:31:56 Friday November 15 2002
Considerably richer than YOWWWWW at 23:28:12 Thursday November 14 2002,no need to mock the poor ex-employees of the shoe maker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bazza at 18:14:13 Friday November 15 2002
I've just heard that Myra Hindley has died. Anyone for a minute's silence? No? What about a lot of clapping and cheering then?
Anon at 17:55:26 Friday November 15 2002
I thought Rob Marshall was not participating in the SOS Appeal. Please clarify his chnage of heart.
TRB Mark at 16:45:38 Friday November 15 2002
Two things. The club say that the ticketing computor system has gone tits up so an early purchasement of tickets is recommended. The full copy of the message is after this commercial break. Get yer Cobblers Christmas cards 2morrow! Pack of 10 only £4.00 with £3.00 going to the SOS appeal. See Rob Marshall at the bottom of the stairs after 2.00pm. And now over to the newsroom.
URGENT TICKET INFORMATION FOR SATURDAY'S
GAME
Important news for supporters attending Boston fixture
A system error has occurred with the Box Office computers ahead of Saturday's match with Boston United. As a
result, the Box Office will be operating a manual system for pre-bookings with immediate effect through to 1.30 pm on
Saturday. As such there may be delays in processing ticket orders prior to the match and regrettably we cannot
guarantee that specific seats will be available for sale. However, tickets will be on sale as normal from the portakabins
from 1.30 pm on Saturday, although we would ask supporters to arrive early to avoid any possible delays.
Anon at 13:41:09 Friday November 15 2002
Boston took over 1,000 to Direones recently. Everytime they had an update on RN you could hear them constantly singing.
9224 at 11:34:31 Friday November 15 2002
I've just read on the Chron site that Ray's injured and is rated as extremely doubtful. Good news for the team, as he'd have played a blinder, but I'm still disappointed that I won't get to see Captain Ray play once again.
Alan Greaves at 08:46:42 Friday November 15 2002
According to the Boston United Web-site (www.bostonunited.co.uk) they have sold 800 tickets for the match away to Northampton Town.
Considerably richer than YOWWWWW at 23:28:12 Thursday November 14 2002
Jealousy is a very bad thing.
Alan Partridge at 22:22:59 Thursday November 14 2002
DR4E, remember - rubber up.
Pilgrim Bugsy at 21:47:28 Thursday November 14 2002
Good day 2 all u cobblers,really looking forward to sat we r.
A Childs View at 18:47:53 Thursday November 14 2002
If Ray gets anything other than a heroes welcome I'll be gutted - the man was, and remains, a Cobblers legend. Ray reminds me of two things - headed goals from set-pieces (the third at home to Rovers in the play-off semi, how great a memory that is!!) and superb last ditch tackles in his own penalty box - fantastic and still a great travesty that he was allowed to go, he should still be at the club now in a coaching capacity, if not future manager. Ray and Sammo are second only to Wilcox and McPherson in my experience of Cobblers centre half partnerships. Re the Howard debate, I thought he was brilliant after the Luton game, he applauded every stand with Cobblers fans in it and made a point of accepting defeat well, he's a bigger man than when he left and I for one can't criticise the bloke for going to a bigger club on 4 times the salary. James Hunt, on the other hand, showed a distinct lack of ambition going to poxy Oxford to play under no midfield required Atkins!! Here's to praying for a sensible line up and tactics for Saturday. If fit, the team should be Harper, Carruthers, Gill, Sammo and Burge, with a midfield of Harsley, Trolly, Chrissy and Del Boy, Jamie and Gabbs up front. That's the best atacking line up the club can put out to my mind. I think Gilly isn't allowed to play though so I suppose it'll have to be Rickers. Come on the Town - KB, you owe us one for Tuesday night, a good performance and place in the 2nd round required!!!
MEMORY LANE RECORDS at 14:45:23 Thursday November 14 2002
Thanks starting to get some interest for the Cobblers SOS fund, due to Northampton BC rules I can only sell vinyl in my shop, however happy to buy posters, tour programmes, pop books, photos, autographs etc. I will write out cheques payable to the SOS fund. Also interested in pre 1950S Cobblers items (anything). Also please let me know if you have any other interesting items as I am a mad collector - things like Festival of Britain/old town guides/seaside towns pre 1965. Im in the shop Wednesday/Friday/Saturday, thanks John (old Hotel Ender!!)
MEMORY LANE RECORDS at 12:06:20 Thursday November 14 2002
We are open tomorrow and Saturday, come and talk Cobblers!!!
Alan Partridge at 11:59:31 Thursday November 14 2002
Back Of The Net
Anon at 09:28:49 Thursday November 14 2002
He certainly took his time in deciding to take a pay cut.
Bazza at 08:56:24 Thursday November 14 2002
9224, I have it on good authority that Chris Hargreaves would have gone if the right offer came up. It was only his Missis not wanting him to go to QPR that stopped him, yes I know it's an easy commute but Mrs. H. said no.
9224 at 02:56:28 Thursday November 14 2002
Point taken Bazza, but when players like Chrissy Hargreaves take a pay-cut to stay at a club, comparisons with those who leave for a higher pay rise are inevitable - especially as he was rumoured to have been offered a SUBSTANTIAL increase to stay. And don't forget how much he improved while he was with us, and the credit we can take for that. He was AWFUL when he joined, and we really missed him when he left.
Anon at 23:23:58 Wednesday November 13 2002
http://www.thefootballforums.cjb.net/ for chat with others, its new so there isnt many memebers yet but WILL grow
Bright spark at 22:48:54 Wednesday November 13 2002
Ray Warburton was a great player for the Diamonds as well, helped us in the league, if only he was a young player again. Always a winner, great attitude to the game, a real proffessional. Give him a cheer from all of us at the Diamonds on Saturday
Anon at 22:32:40 Wednesday November 13 2002
Agree with a CHILDS VIEW, I think Rickers is either very off form or Oldham fans who were pleased to see him go were right.How many mistakes can one player make.Hate to slag off one player but his performance last night and in previous games has been inept.KB looked confused and undecided after sending off and seemed to panic in bringing Gabbas off.Warburton should get heroes reception,a giant at the club and thoroughly top man!Also is it just me or can Trollope only offload ball and put others under pressure!Lets hope the bollocking worked and we win comfortably on saturday.
Anon at 22:17:45 Wednesday November 13 2002
warburton will get an amazing reception. i guarantee that. i want him blubbing so much he cant see the ball.
Bazza at 21:49:14 Wednesday November 13 2002
9224, So you've turned downed down extra money when it's been offered have you?
9224 at 21:35:13 Wednesday November 13 2002
Steve Howard got all that booing because of how he left. Whereas Warburton was (amazingly) told by all and sundry that he was no longer needed, Howard left for a bit of extra cash after we'd offered him incredible terms. He got booed because, as the song went, "There's only one Greedy Bastard", and with things as they are, greedy bastards are not too popular. Ray will get a great reputation befitting a great servant to the club - Howard got what he deserved, but fair play to him, he took it well and all was fine at full-time!
ian atkins at 21:29:05 Wednesday November 13 2002
if its obviously not working, BLOODY CHANGE IT!!!!!!if its obviously not working, BLOODY CHANGE IT!!!!!!if its obviously not working, BLOODY CHANGE IT!!!!!!,i never understood this concept what are you on about,if its obviously not working, BLOODY CHANGE IT!!!!!!
Bazza at 21:01:58 Wednesday November 13 2002
I was in line when the pen was given and I didn't see a foul and if there was a foul it wasn't by Abbey. Some very dodgy offside decissions too. Having said all that, we should have been able to defend a two goal lead even with ten men! Rickers at right back? I'm not a big Hope fan but he must be a better option at left back with Gill on the right. Harper said QPR fans cheered him on his return last week, let's hope Warburton gets a good reception on Saturday, not the unpleasant booing that Howard got.
A Childs View at 20:46:44 Wednesday November 13 2002
Broadhurst having a go at the players, who is going to have a go at him? He plays a solid right back at left back, an unimpressive player at right back and, during a key decision point in the game, takes the wrong player off - the Cambridge centre halves were enourmous and we were bound to need an out ball with only ten men - absolutely crap management, he didn't seem to know what he was doing for a couple of minutes!!! We were so solid at QPR, why not give Hopey, who could do with a game, a stint at left back and let the other three carry on were left off from against QPR? Did Rickers deserve a starting berth? I firmly blame KB for last night. Also, what proved hysterical, he swaps Rickers for Hopey and switches Gill to right back only after we've conceded a fourth!! Its too bloody late then you pillock!!! Harper had a nightmare, why was he so close to Burgess for their first goal? It was obvious Burg was going to need to head back, space between them was required!!! Very disappointed last night, what a great chance to build from the 2 league games and get through to the next round. N such luck, being a Cobblers fan is never simple. Pressure is on against Boston now. Playing Gilly at left back was obviously not going to work, anyone could see that after about 5 minutes, in truth Cambridge had a lot of chances even though we were 2-0 up. Its very difficult to tackle with your right coming in from the left, it also draws the play inside too much - Hopey should have played. Only highlight was Del Boy, a genuine talent. Mickey Adams was there and I wouldn't be at all surprised if its Del who he was looking at. I'm not at all sure by KB, his decision making during games leaves a lot to b desired ie, QPR at home last year, Bournemouth away last year, Chesterfield away this season and last night. Message to KB - if its obviously not working, BLOODY CHANGE IT!!!!!!
Anon at 19:32:17 Wednesday November 13 2002
boston will feel the backlash says broads. they fuckin better
a bit warmer now at 19:10:38 Wednesday November 13 2002
Well said "drilling" it was me who said that the game turned at the point that Gabbi went off.
Lets hope the reports in the ET about KB "giving the players a blasting" will have some effect on Saturday.
DR4E at 19:04:20 Wednesday November 13 2002
yes,and i still love boys
NoseyParker at 17:23:13 Wednesday November 13 2002
Its the refs fault you are a wanker DR4!!
I can't believe it possible..... at 15:06:10 Wednesday November 13 2002
.....that this is the very same DR4E whose team lost 4-0 in the last round of the LDV...........surely not?
Anon at 14:09:47 Wednesday November 13 2002
DR4E - No it wasn't the Refs fault we lost, it was a bad substitution after a harsh red card for our keeper, an inept defensive performance and long balls to two players who's combined height is 9ft!!! But the officials performance last night really did need to be seen to be believed.
DR4E at 13:40:01 Wednesday November 13 2002
i love boys
DR4E at 13:07:47 Wednesday November 13 2002
Why DIAMONDS will be a golfer's best friend
A REVOLUTIONARY new golf club that uses a diamond face to propel the ball prodigious distances is about to be launched by a British firm.
At nearly £700, the driver will cost almost twice as much as its most expensive competitors. Its makers, however, claim that the design - invented by an oil company executive in Texas - will help golfers to hit straighter and farther than ever before.
The DR4E (Diamonds Roll For Ever) driver uses diamonds ground on to a tungsten carbide metal base to create a 1.5in-wide hitting surface, or "sweetspot".
The idea came from Mahlon Dennis, a keen amateur golfer and the director of an oil-drilling company in Houston, after his two sons began to outdrive him. He experimented with attaching a diamond disc - of the sort used in the drilling for oil - to his club's face. The results, he says, were extraordinary.
"It immediately made a difference," he said. "I just took a conventional club and glued a drilling piece onto it. But one day it fell off and I lost the diamond on the golf course."
Mr Dennis hired a club designer, and took the prototype to Larry Parks, the owner of one of America's leading golf-equipment companies, Progear, to get advice on how to market and develop it.
Mr Parks began negotiations with John Letters of Scotland, one of the game's most respected club-makers. The firm spent two years refining Mr Dennis's invention before launching the DR4E.
"The reason it works is that diamonds are the hardest substance known to man," said Steven Knight, the chairman of John Letters Diamond Golf Ltd, a company formed especially for the product.
"The success of this new club illustrates a theory of physics called Young's modulus, which states that the less energy absorbed by one material when it hits another, the farther it will go," said Mr Knight.
"This club doesn't spin the ball so much, and although no club will cure a hook or slice, it does a lot to help."
In tests carried out using a machine mimicking a club's swing, the makers say the diamond-fitted driver hit the ball at least 10 yards farther than its leading competitors. Last week, The Telegraph's own experiments seemed to support the findings.
Richard Harrison, the club professional at the Royal Blackheath Golf Club in south London, said he thought the new club was superb. He said: "It hits the ball straighter and farther than any other club I've used. But the key fact is that it is consistent in the distance it hits the ball."
Mr Harrison hit five successive shots an average of 24 yards farther with the new club than with his own driver. The makers say that if the DR4E's launch is successful, they will expand their range into diamond putters.
The DR4E has been submitted to the United States Professional Golf Association and the Royal and Ancient Golf Club, at St Andrews in Scotland, for approval, and the company is confident that it will be declared legal for use on professional tours by April.
Such golfing developments are worrying some commentators, however. Mark Reason, The Telegraph's golf correspondent, said: "The extra distance achieved by new technology is rendering many of the world's top courses redundant.
"At last year's Masters, Jack Nicklaus observed that if the trend continued, some of the tees at Augusta National would end up in downtown Augusta.
"The Old Course at St Andrews, the most famous of them all, has become emasculated in recent years as the professionals can now drive far enough to reach the adjoining fairways - and avoid nearly all the fairway bunkers on the hole that they are supposed to be playing.
"Something will have to be done soon, but the ruling bodies are afraid of the legal and financial implications."
DR4E at 13:04:49 Wednesday November 13 2002
It's the ref's fault. Always the ref's fault.
M at 12:16:19 Wednesday November 13 2002
Yeah do you think I was having a premonition! If only the rain had carried on and 'The Puddle' had spread to the ground
Anon at 11:37:50 Wednesday November 13 2002
M at 11:39:37 Tuesday November 12 2002
No chance of game being called off tonight is there?? if only there was
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:54:42 Wednesday November 13 2002
The substitution that Broads made after the sending off cost us the game as someone has already pointed out. Leaving two 5foot nothing players up front and feeding them with long balls was the catalyst for such an inept performance. From my position in the middle of the west stand it was difficult to see if contact was made by Abbey but even if it was a red card was more than harsh because there were players back by that point. So Mr Cooper - 7 red cards in your last 7 games? What disapointed me the most about last nights display was the lack of effort, passion and committment from the players - particularly evident after the Luton and QPR performances. Conceding 4 goals at home to inferior opposition is inexcusible - particulary as it could have been 6,7 or 8 with better finishing from Cambridge. Yet many supporters still applauded the team off the pitch, which surely must give them the impression that their collective display was acceptable. I applauded loudly after both the QPR and Luton games - the players deserved it - but last night they let the fans, the club and themselves down with a shamless, pathetic attempt against a 3rd division side who clearly wanted it more than they did.
United Front at 09:41:18 Wednesday November 13 2002
Its a bit worrying that the players only seem to be able to motivate themselves in the big matches (QPR, Cardiff, Luton) and don't seem to give a toss/have a clue how to play against (supposed) inferior opposition who are prepared to show more passion, fight and organisation than us. I think we might need to sort this problem out before Saturday. By the way, I wonder if Hodder has gambled everything on us getting to the Third Round of the FA Cup like he did last year?
Anon at 09:36:45 Wednesday November 13 2002
Oh, and can you imagine if these three officials were at Hereford, all 92 of us would be dead now!!!! Even the fourth official (a lookalike for Willie Thorne) didn't know what he was doing. He couldn't work the sub board for toffee and when he did he had Cambridge number 17 replacing their number 17!!!! I've not seen anything like it since Bullshit Andy and his Blue Cards!!!
Anon at 09:33:15 Wednesday November 13 2002
The three officials were collectivly the worst I've ever seen. When the ball went for a throw both referee and linesman stood and looked at each other blankly before the lino came to the conclusion it was a Cambridge throw. The lino near to the west stand in the 2nd half missed god knows how many offsides, including one which TWO players were offside, one of which was right in front of him. the penalty and sending off came as a result of a move in which the Cambridge player was 2 or 3 yards offside. When we attacked the flag went up no matter what position we were in. Did the officials not turn up so we had to borrow some of the clowns from the circus. And is that where Sammo, Burge and Harper had done their training prior to this game as all three were a shambles.
Dave U at 09:11:24 Wednesday November 13 2002
I've got two questions to ask:
1. Why is it that when we play against 10 men we usually struggle to make the extra man count, but when we are reduced to 10 men the opposition usually dominate the game?
2. Was last nights referee a clown at the circus on the north carpark? (He was a joke).
Bright spark at 08:59:31 Wednesday November 13 2002
But not at home.
Anon at 08:41:57 Wednesday November 13 2002
Yep - wonder who they knocked out first round?
Bright spark at 23:43:38 Tuesday November 12 2002
And Cambridge are below us in the league as well.
Anon at 23:15:16 Tuesday November 12 2002
Pity the players dont show as much effort as the Trust
Vince at 23:14:41 Tuesday November 12 2002
The amount collected before tonight's game with Cambridge was £833.89, this brings the total collected to £10020.64.
Thanks to all who donated and collected.
cold and fed up at 22:18:53 Tuesday November 12 2002
The turning point of tonight game was the sacrifical substition of Gabbadini.....wrong choice Mr B...he was looking dangerous and the rest of the team seemed to lose the urge once he had left the feild.
This just proves how much we depend on him,Del boy played well but to no avail in the end.......not helped by the referee and his assistants. I was frozen stiff before even getting into the ground due to the queues for tickets...and only three people manning them(or should that read womaning them)what could be easier than adopting a "pay at the turnstile and choose your own seat " policy? could have put another 100 or more bums on seats...and we all know what that equates too.
Rob Dunkley at 21:56:57 Tuesday November 12 2002
Comedy performance by officials. Cobblers were cruising at 2-0, Abbey got sent off, Cambridge missed pen and you thought it would be our night. Burgess scored a comedy own goal - and deep in 4 minutes of first half stoppage time, Burgess was fouled and Cooper gave a free kick against him, this then led to the equaliser we fell apart in second half. Forrester went off injured.
Rob Dunkley at 20:26:44 Tuesday November 12 2002
Sounds like an interesting game Cooper the ref though already has mucked up. He missed Abbey being hacked by Riza and then sends off Abbey for a foul. Of course if it was the other keeper then he would have got yellow.
Sean from London at 20:23:36 Tuesday November 12 2002
2-1 up and 1 man down - doh da doh da
LH at 17:50:47 Tuesday November 12 2002
Dont forget the Council lent us cash in the summer so I think they do have the Clubs interest at heart. So what do we prefer cash to keep us going or a pain in the ass on the parking for Two games ? Also when you look at the fixture list until the Cup draws there was not going to be any games . We could of been away in both games and then you would of thought the Council creating revenue from its assets was the right thing to do . Its still a pain though !! Town to win tonight
in extra time , knackered players for Saturday.
Circus at 17:43:55 Tuesday November 12 2002
At least it will stop the mean buggers riding around trying to find a car park that the trust has not got covered. The hold up when I try and park is usually caused by someone reversing because they are too tight to pay up £2, to save the club!! at QPR the cost of car parking for away fans was £6!!! and it went into someones profit account.
Anon at 17:11:15 Tuesday November 12 2002
In The Net!
Alan Partridge at 16:15:51 Tuesday November 12 2002
Cashback
9224 at 13:43:01 Tuesday November 12 2002
Another bloody circus! Good to see JUST how committed the council is to keeping League football in Northampton
M at 11:39:37 Tuesday November 12 2002
No chance of game being called off tonight is there??
Steve at 07:09:12 Tuesday November 12 2002
The official site appears to have gone down. Why?
No sparkle at 23:25:24 Monday November 11 2002
Bright spark, your in the wrong place. Go to somewhere that might care about your village folly. China perhaps?
Bright spark at 21:56:12 Monday November 11 2002
Can't you read properly? or are you trying to be funny?
Tarquin at 21:25:48 Monday November 11 2002
Bright spark at 13:09:54 Monday November 11 2002
Whether you like it or not NO SPARKLE the village boys are SOON coming to LICK your arses.Well no wonder your village is dying if all the blokes are like you duckie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
redscouse at 20:50:10 Monday November 11 2002
and by the way what the hell does a public school-boy from Leicestershire know about Football!!
redscouse at 20:48:15 Monday November 11 2002
The Cobbs flag in Brisbane was Two lads that are season ticket holders.They thought that they could go down under and see a suprise away win!!Should have stayed at home and watched the Cobbs get a suprise Away win ..........Still never mind lads see you back here Smithers and Greg!!
ian at 20:02:43 Monday November 11 2002
i see the council have dumped a circus on the north car park nice! no collections there for next 2 home games!! perhaps the circus will donate some money or perhaps take stonhill as ringmaster!
tom.towny@virgin.net at 19:48:51 Monday November 11 2002
splendid news{not}our wonderful council have dumped a circus on north car park hence preventing collecttions on tues and sat. perhaps the circus might take stonhill as ringmaster!!
LH at 17:43:39 Monday November 11 2002
Good to see Gill signing on until the end of the season. I think he has been one of our more consistant performers. Terrific result on Saturday just hope that the hard work from the last two games is not
wasted in the next two . The team really need to mentally apply themeselves now to avoid repeating our poor showings against supposedly lesser opposition (ie Swindon . Cheltenham.) But I'm sure
Broadhurst knows that better than me.
Bright spark at 13:09:54 Monday November 11 2002
Whether you like it or not NO SPARKLE the village boys are SOON coming to kick your arses.The futures bright the futures sparkly.
George - Bucks No1 Cobbler at 12:44:37 Monday November 11 2002
ONE OTHER THING - why oh why oh why did the QPR ground staff take away Patricks flag? what harm was it doing??? The kid was about 14 - hardly a memebr of any hardcore crew. Did you get your flag back Patrick??
George - Bucks No1 Cobbler at 12:42:17 Monday November 11 2002
Great battling performance I thought, and a quality quaity finish from Trollope. Been to about half the games this years and I too havent been overly impressed but then again I have seen him do quality tackles (like he did on saturday). Still dont think that Rickers should play at Right Midfield. What happens now then when we have - Marsh, Gill, Rickers, Asa, Lavin and Macca all vying for a right hand side place? hmmm a bit top heavy me thinks.
Anon at 12:11:39 Monday November 11 2002
What is the world coming to? http://wolf.webcruiser.org/index.php?ref=104757
MEMORY LANE RECORDS Cobblers SOS at 11:13:11 Monday November 11 2002
I can pick up Records, Wednesday late afternoon, Friday late afternoon and the same on Saturdays.
hotelender@yahoo.co.uk
MEMORY LANE RECORDS at 09:17:16 Monday November 11 2002
Please bring in any of your old vinyl/any pop music memorabilia (please no Top of the Pops/78s/Classical or Music for Pleasure), I will mark it up as Cobblers SOS Appeal, and any sold I will donate ALL the monies to the COBBLERS, I will keep a record which will be open to anyone to look at to see how it is `going', I am open Wednesday/Friday and be gentle to me on Saturdays as I wish I was at the match!! Im in the FISH Market top of the Drapery.
No sparkle at 08:30:37 Monday November 11 2002
I haven't seen a good reason for the village to have a team yet
rushden at 07:21:55 Monday November 11 2002
i love boys
rushden at 22:43:16 Sunday November 10 2002
us similar to mk dons?
Nope. So we have money - big deal! thats your only argument. And a weak one too.
Odd Stratford Records at 20:58:10 Sunday November 10 2002
Please visit my record store on the Old Watling street we specialise in Roman Gramophone Records, 78 RPM, GedgieBaby!!
Test Match at 20:56:04 Sunday November 10 2002
Early on Friday morning on Test Match Special Jonathan Agnew ex Leicestershire CC (commentator) and an ex Aussi player said theres a Union Jack with the The Cobblers on it, the Aussi said oh that must be from Leicester, thats the English shoe Town, J Agnew said oh no thats Northampton, but not sure which division they play in, then asked if anyone in the commentary box knew which Division, there was SILENCE! Obviously the Cobbs have no impact on Cricket journalists!!
Big Roy at 20:15:14 Sunday November 10 2002
I don't think that the footie crowd really makes much difference to the commercial/retail outlets at Sixfields. The once a fortnight influx of a few thousand fans (with three months off during the summer) is of little consequence compared to the constant stream of visitors to the Cinema/Bowling and nearby Homebase and Wickes. I would even dare to suggest that most of the food outlets would be happier to see the land occupied by the stadium developed into something more commercially attractive (furniture/carpet outlets etc.) and therefore, have little incentive for saving the Cobblers (IMHO).
Big Roy at 19:56:25 Sunday November 10 2002
Did anyone notice the Cobblers/England flag draped over the fencing at the Gabba in Brisbane during the test match? It's got to be CDU surely? (Cobbler Down Under for the new boys)
9224 at 19:22:22 Sunday November 10 2002
No hidden agenda, Anon, it's just that no-one has EVER answered the questions I posted earlier and the sale of x thousand programmes a week at £2 each represents a serious amount of income over a season. I wonder how much of this the Cobblers get, how much Avalon gets, if they care whether or not it continues, and how much (in terms of £s) they care! While I'm at it I will moan at Sainburys (nice one, now you've got me started) how many extra shoppers/extra petrol sales do they get as a result of the football? If people weren't there already who'd go there especially? It seems to me that we aren't emphasising enough the disbenefits and costs of our potential non-existence and, given the state of the appeal, perhaps we should!
Macc Cobblers at 19:08:47 Sunday November 10 2002
Excellent performance ... excellent goal ... excellent support !!
By the way what was put into the referees tea at half time - talk about being intimidated by the home fans !
Anon at 17:46:15 Sunday November 10 2002
the news of the worlds described it as being lifeless, i thought it was a really exciting game actually, and up until taffy scored i thought it would be one of the best 0-0s you'd see
Rob Dunkley at 17:21:43 Sunday November 10 2002
First of all, excellent performance by the lads. I am not moaning, but whilst we are steadily improving there is still plenty of things we need to work on. My biggest grip is set-pieces, we have not scored from one yet. I do not think Trollope should take corners as a) CC would deliver them better and b) on yesterdays showing PT is more use in the box. Saying that it amazing and enjoyable to see Sammo back to his best, and a comedy cameo from Hope up front. He did the sensible thing and ran the ball into the corner and was accussed of fouling. My only concern about playing Sammo and Burg is their lack of pace, and the fact the Hope is a menace at set=pieces.
Des O'Connor at 16:55:36 Sunday November 10 2002
I sing better than Northampton play, and that's saying something.
Anon at 16:06:56 Sunday November 10 2002
Ray could you add this site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/armchair-football to your list at the top of the CC page. It takes a humerous look through the weeks football coverage on t.v. At the minute there are only 40odd subscribers they are deserving of more. Please take a look at it. Thank you for your time.
Anon at 15:43:02 Sunday November 10 2002
9224, this is not the first time you've been on here moaning about Avalon Print. Do you have a hidden agenda? If you want to have a go, have a go at the likes of Tesco, Sainsbury etc who've done more over the years to screw local businesses which may have historically supported the Cobblers.
9224 at 14:20:08 Sunday November 10 2002
TCMP - has the club spoken to local establishments about how much it would cost them NOT to donate to the appeal? It seems to me the only times that the Sixfields Tavern and Burger King are full is on a matchday. If you consider that these matchdays would continue many years into the future I feel that they'd be daft not to contribute an amount now to guarantee future business. Also, how much a year is it worth to Avalon Print for them to do our programmes - what value would they place on this business? And finally, how about selling extra advertising space in the programmes by way of inserts? I know that I find them to be a pain in the arse, but if it saved the club I could live with it.
foo foo the bear at 14:19:14 Sunday November 10 2002
That seems to have happened dosen't it,what next, move the club to a bigger city,that would never happen would it????????!!!!!!!
foo foo the bear at 14:17:04 Sunday November 10 2002
Wouldn't it be nice if the village landlord keeps up the good work,and makes all the locals unemployed.
No sparkle at 13:40:41 Sunday November 10 2002
C Sense. Get real, Dimones are an ego driven rich mans plaything. They have no place in football, they are similar to MK dons, a figment of someones imagination and pocket. Treat them with the contempt they deserve
Jimttc at 13:38:44 Sunday November 10 2002
And wouldn't it be great if Wimbledon got relegated, our supporters could treble their average gate at Milton Keynes and a taxi could bring their supporters to sixfields. (and the pratts who run the police force would still make it all ticket)
C Sense at 12:04:47 Sunday November 10 2002
Wouldn't it be nice if Diamonds keep up the good work and play the Cobblers in the 2nd division next season? despite the differences of opinion,local interest in the games home and away would bring in massive support and thats got to be good for both clubs.Solets bury our hatchets and be happy to acknowledge that this would be a good thing to happen.
A Childs View at 09:36:11 Sunday November 10 2002
Not been on for CC for ages but 2 very good, and very different, performances over the last 2 games. Against Luton you could have put Real Madrid in Cobblers shirts and they wouldn't have done any better, it was a brilliant performance - much beter than the Colchester game. Only slight gripe I have about that game is that we could have scored a few more but KB's substitutions really disrupted the team - and the entertainment - for the last 15 mins. Still, it made for a very good weekend! Yesterday was a real battling performance in which, despite what Holloway says, Cobblers looked more threatening in front of goal that QPR. Lovely goal from Trolly, like the comments below, I've not been overwhelmed by him of yet, however, yeserday he and Sammo were excellent. Holloway must hate playing us - I'm all in favour of establishing the Holloway league were we play Holloway teams week in, week out - we'd be champions of Europe of no time! Definite sour grapes Holloway, you lost because you played poorly, we were solid and scored a great goal - end of debate! 2 cup games and, I hope, 2 more wins - build some confidence I say! No Del Boy though yesterday - just what more does he have to do?
Anon at 08:15:11 Sunday November 10 2002
From the Sunday Mirror: Enjoy
"RANGERS' boss Ian Holloway came out fighting after a section of the crowd booed his team off following a second successive home defeat.
"I don't know what kind of team they expected but without Kevin Gallen and Paul Furlong it was the bare bones," he snapped.
But Holloway's claim that his side had been "mugged" didn't quite add up after keeper Simon Royce pulled off one of the saves of the season to keep out Marco Gabbiadini's header - and deny the veteran striker his 261st senior goal.
But he could do nothing to stop Cobblers' captain Paul Trollope's 61st-minute winner, a fabulous chip which left the keeper totally stranded."
henry the fiddle king at 20:59:20 Saturday November 9 2002
Holloway,should just learn to except that we will alway beat his teams
Anon at 20:57:11 Saturday November 9 2002
just read the QPR report on Teamtalk. What do you have to say now, Holloway, sounds as if you were totally outclassed? Up the Town!
Tarqin at 20:52:00 Saturday November 9 2002
Ian,ian,ian now where have i heard them excuses b4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMKC at 20:44:34 Saturday November 9 2002
"How many chances did they have?". I counted three clear cut ones Ian, and a couple of iffy offsides as well. "How many did Rangers have, Ian?". A fair bit of second half pressure, but I can't recall Harper having to make a save. Wasn't a great Cobblers display but a battling one. And I thought we deserved all three points.
Tarquin at 20:29:19 Saturday November 9 2002
Well done lads,i've slagged Trollope of in the past but quality finish so my jury is out,Holloway's comments remind me of a certain ex-manager we had,blame everyone except themselves.Now Boston maybe a bit more worried.
Rob Dunkley at 19:47:31 Saturday November 9 2002
Just got back from Loftus Road. I have seen Ian Holloway's comments and he is again being bitter and twisted.
"How many chances did they have? Apart from the goal they created very little. They came here for a point and got all three".
My view, quality goal by Paul Trollope, I must admit I have not been impressed with him - but I could not fault his finish (you could tell he had played at a higher level). We had other half chances, and Jamie looked lively, at times he broke free but the huge Shittu was a man mountain. We were under pressure, but held out the storm. I think we took around 1,000 this year, so a good turn out, and our confidence is back.
Anon at 17:29:03 Saturday November 9 2002
Hahaha! Holloway,Holloway whats the score? You'll never beat the Cobblers! Broads just said he expects Gill to sign on Monday,but he wont be able to play in the FA Cup nxt sat BUT he will be able to play in the LDV,how stupid.
Ted at 17:01:30 Saturday November 9 2002
Brilliant bloody brilliant!
Steve at 16:59:04 Saturday November 9 2002
Yeah me. Is it finished yet?
Hotel Ender at 16:22:35 Saturday November 9 2002
anyone else online?
Hotel Ender at 16:18:58 Saturday November 9 2002
Trollope!!!!!!! 1-0!!!!!!!!!
Hotel Ender at 15:47:40 Saturday November 9 2002
0-0 half time
Hotel Ender at 15:35:36 Saturday November 9 2002
James Hunt has scored for Oxford. Cobblers still 0-0
9224 at 13:58:57 Saturday November 9 2002
COME ON TOWN!!!
Old Stratford Cobbler at 08:26:56 Saturday November 9 2002
Steve- very, very funny comment especially for just after 7.00am!! Come on you Cobblers!! First trip to Loftus Road for me!!
Steve at 07:02:44 Saturday November 9 2002
Headline from the official site - BROADHURST ADMITS INTERST IN CROOKS DEAL. So Di Stefano's back in the frame then.
Old Stratford Cobbler at 20:11:40 Friday November 8 2002
Oops, I mean the Club not the Cub!! Takes me back to my days at 2nd Deanshanger Cubs!!
Old Stratford Cobbler at 20:09:55 Friday November 8 2002
I have it on good authority ie the Cub Ticket Office that you can still pay on the door at QPR tomorrow. Apparently it takes forever to get in if everyone pays on the gate so to try and alleviate this, they say it is all ticket for Cobbs fans. I believe, so far, about 700 tickets have been sold. Lets make it a round thousand or more. Am supposed to be meeting some mates at the White Horse/Lion/Riot or whatever in Shepherds Bush. Can anybody enlighten me as to the name of the pub down there? By the way, don't forget to visit Akko at Memory Lane Records in the Fishmarket (Weds, Fri and Sat ). Mention "The Bird Man" to claim your free gift for Christmas.
Bazza at 18:41:07 Friday November 8 2002
KB say's on the Off Shite that he's hopeful of signing Gill when his loan is over. Will he pick the same team that started last week or be more cautious away from home? He is hinting that Lincoln will play some part, maybe he'll come on when we're 3-0 up! I think KB will drop Flymo and play Rickers on the right. It was agood game against QPR at Sixfields last season when Hunter was sent off, we were 2-0 down at half time and Sam Parkin actually scored with just about his only touch of the game (season?). Though Flymo's goal for the equaliser was one of the best.
Anon at 17:46:52 Friday November 8 2002
if the club recieved what they felt was a derisory offer for say, carruthers but it meant the sos total would be reached and then a little bit more would they take it? or would we wait until we got his true worth
TCMP at 14:05:17 Friday November 8 2002
9224, The club have already contacted many potential "rich donors" the problem is they have to want to get involved in the first place and if Pete Waterman or Richard Branson wanted a football club they would have brought one by now, and it would probably be their local club they would donate to. As to local celebs we can ask and hope and see what they are prepared to do, my personal view is that most are more than willing to give a qoute, and get a bit of publicity but when it come to hard cash, they go a bit silent. Yes it is £3.10, and the amount invested would have to be a sum that the board collectivly felt was worthy of a full share issue. I certainly feel you are in the £1000 plus mark. We of course would always consider additional members on the board. The going rate is the purchase of around £50-60,000 worth of shares a personal bank guarentee of around £40-50,000 and the willingness to continually contribute/loan money to the club on a friendly lender basis. The amswer though is to decide whether or not you want to be a shareholder in a personal capacity or add your voting power to the Trust's total, The comment from anon about buying players is I take it just an anti trust winge. Hardly anybody buys players these days we all work within a tight wages budget and only have spare cash if we are lucky to sell to a prem club or have a good cup run. As I have said many times the Trust have no intent of holding a controlling share, but simply to continue to hold a shareholding which secures our position and gives us equity with other board members. Its a partnership, and long may it continue, with or without anonomous wingers putting their ten penneth in. regards TC
rushden at 11:10:47 Friday November 8 2002
Nice to see you're giving after school training in Rushden (not). Bloomin scabs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vince at 23:13:08 Thursday November 7 2002
£677 collected tonight, thanks to all who donated and the volunteers who collected.
The total collected to date is now over £9170.
Anon at 22:44:11 Thursday November 7 2002
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tarquin at 15:33:15 Thursday November 7 2002
ENVB at 10:13:22 Thursday November 7 2002
'If Diamonds play Poo next season', i thought they always did play sh*te
Anthony Collett at 14:21:09 Thursday November 7 2002
Both tickets now gone
Anthony Collett at 13:36:34 Thursday November 7 2002
1 gone already but if you want a single ticket let me know asap.
Anthony Collett at 13:32:02 Thursday November 7 2002
I now have 2 spare tickets for tonights England game, email before 5.30pm if interested or after 5.30pm ring 07713839507
Anon at 11:49:58 Thursday November 7 2002
are you obsessed with playing with poo? all that time in the fields i reckon...
ENVB at 10:53:23 Thursday November 7 2002
But who know Diamonds could play Sheff Wed, and Cobbs play Poo?
Hotel Ender at 10:48:43 Thursday November 7 2002
if direones play pish next season - then I won't give a stuff - cos it'll be in Div 3 and we'll still be in Div 2!!
ENVB at 10:13:22 Thursday November 7 2002
If Diamonds play Poo next season, who would you be cheering for?
Hotel Ender at 09:46:21 Thursday November 7 2002
you just don't get it do you Dr4e? We are football supporters, not fans of a plastic plaything. Cobblers fans have helped and supported campaigns of other clubs threatened with going out of business. Real football fans don't want to see other clubs going out of business. I hate Peterborough, always have, always will, but I'd also hate to see them going out of business. But you just don't understand that do you? I guess before the Direones came along you sat there with your red shirt with Sharp emblazoned across it and cannot understand real football supporters. I feel sorry for you, I really do.
DR4E at 01:53:04 Thursday November 7 2002
Unite or die. Uncle Max told you that a long time ago. It's too late for you now. Nobody is coming to save you this time. I hope you stay in business long enough so we can play you in the league next season, assuming you stay up. Then at least the DIAMONDS will be confirmed as the PRIDE OF NORTHANTS once and for all. WE ARE GOING UP!
moneybags at 23:44:25 Wednesday November 6 2002
More shares for the trust, means more say for the supporters Anon, 'whats money got to do with it'?
Anon at 20:49:00 Wednesday November 6 2002
Why does the club always insist on making things difficult. The online auction has now been launched on the official site. But is it easy to make abid? of course not, you have to write in stating your bid and then keep an eye on the website to see whether anyone else has bid more, if they have you have to write in again. Thats not really going to attract bids from fans of other clubs who may be interested in an Arsenal pennant etc and who wont come all the way up to Northampton on the actual night of the auction. Why havent the club arranged for online bidding to be possible - through someone like ebay? we needed to attract outside money with the auction through having attractive things to sell and making it simple for people (especially for fans of other clubs) to buy. But as usual we end up with an inflexible approach with a country fair flavour, just like tickets sales, club shops in town, unreserved seating, collecting winnings from the betting shops.....
south beds cobb at 20:48:09 Wednesday November 6 2002
You stuck a ????? sorry!
South Beds Cobbler at 20:44:02 Wednesday November 6 2002
I can remember a time when Cobblers fund raising cards were on sale at every pub/shop in town in the late 60,s early 70s some old fashioned piece of card which for a tanner(6d in old money )you had punch a match stick through pre formed holes in card to see if your pick won, The club should target all the towns pub/ shops with Todays equivelent which must be scratch cards ,football team cards or plain old weekly raffles,in return for a guarenteed mention and thankyou in the match day program/Chronical.
you stuck a
Memory Lane Records at 20:12:56 Wednesday November 6 2002
Invest in VINYL its the FUTURE!!!
Anon at 20:05:22 Wednesday November 6 2002
If the trust raises cash & buys shares in the club, to have more of a say in the running of the cobblers, even gets another position on the board, then how does it ( the trust) plan to raise cash to sign & pay for players, etc,etc? Over to you TCMP
Nosey Parker at 19:21:40 Wednesday November 6 2002
TCMP is it not 3.10 Pence?
Anon at 19:03:19 Wednesday November 6 2002
TCMP, If I have £1,000 to invest will the club sell me voting shares?
Anon at 18:10:55 Wednesday November 6 2002
3.10 For each share TCMP? you must be joking, or is that 3.10 for the lot?
Alan Greaves at 15:28:28 Wednesday November 6 2002
9224 is on the right line, don’t forget the club is STILL UP FOR SALE. To encourage a potential buyer or investor, advertising in only local media is not going to attract the kind of person(s) the club is looking to interest. The need to move further a field is paramount, otherwise we are only going to be viewed in the local area (Northamptonshire). People we should to targeting is Pete Waterman, Richard Branson etc, these are the people who have the money to embark on such a interest.
Anon at 15:12:07 Wednesday November 6 2002
9224, Richard Branson must get dozens of letters a day from "worthy causes". He has no affinity with Northampton and although it may be a case of don't ask don't get it's probably a waste of a stamp. Agree with you about Stonhills comments in the programme though, he's moaning to those who are helping rather than spreading the word further afield. Can't be easy though, virtually every club needs cash and it seems there's not much about (except for premiership clubs)
9224 at 14:50:03 Wednesday November 6 2002
It's all very well Barry Stonhill appealing in the programme, and in the Chron about the state of the appeal, but people who read these are probably already doing all they can. Why not get himself on Sky Sports News, or Look East, or in other towns' local papers? We need to raise the profile of the appeal to people who are not already involved. Has the club (or the trust?) written begging letters to people for whom £500,000 is just a drop in the ocean in exchange for some sort of sponsorship deal? How about writing to Richard Branson, I'd imagine he has a few pence lying around. How about writing to Des O'Connor, he did, after all, play for us once. Why not ask Jo Whiley if she knows anyone in the music industry who'd be prepared to donate. It seems all we do is targetted through the website and the Chron, to people who are already doing all they can. Also, what do you think is the minimum purchase of voting shares the club would consider? TCMP - any comments on any of these?
Mark Too at 14:04:26 Wednesday November 6 2002
According to Ceefax we have tried to sign Lee Crooks. He was about to join us but then had a last minute change of mind.
United Front at 14:03:34 Wednesday November 6 2002
It says on Teletext and Barnsley's website that Lee Crooks has turned down a move to us (it doesn't say whether it was a loan move or permanent). Surely this suggests that Gill won't be staying beyond Saturdays match as Crooks is a utility player who would have played for us at right back.
Macc Cobblers at 12:52:36 Wednesday November 6 2002
Thanks for that - I think its clearer - I definitely should have took more interest in Company Law and Finance in my studies !
TCMP at 12:48:48 Wednesday November 6 2002
Macc, I hear what you say but my knowledge of what Maccelsfield did was to work with the local paper to say shares are "not available" so trhat supporters then asked why and were then offered shares on the basis that they had made an approach and the sale could not be considered to be a public subscription issue. Someone also told me that the total raised was around £30,000 and that the majority of that was from one person. If someone has got that sort of money available and contact the club the board would consider selling them a shares at £3.10. So it is not that they are not available but that we cannot advertise them without a prospectus. On the additional representation issue, my belief is that if this was voted on at a board meeting then it would not be agreed (remember we only have one vote in five) although I have said that if the Trust/Exec want me to raise it then I will. However on a positive note the Trust Exec are now meeting with board members and we are considering regular (perhaps quarterly) meetings between the exec and the whole board. We have to work at this together rather than always seeing it as an us and them issue. In essence I am one of us and one of them at the same time and on most issues we are as one both the us and the them both individually and collectively. (confused? I am) And as far as saving the club is concerned then the words "Unite or Die" come to mind, Now, who said that?
Macc Cobblers at 12:27:26 Wednesday November 6 2002
TCMP,
I understand the explanation about the Club not being able to make a public subscription without a prospectus - but I find this hard to reconcile with the fact that I can go down to my local newspaper group and pick up an application from to buy voting shares in the local football club.
On a separate point are the Trust any closer to getting additional representation on the board.
TCMP at 12:02:53 Wednesday November 6 2002
Big Time, the decision is yours, but my preference of course is that you put it in through the Trust, The b shares will make a nice gift and give those who purchase them a right to say I own a share in the business but of course they are non voting shares and should be purchased on a gift/momento basis only. The Trust recieves full voting shares for every penny we raise and we can purchase them from the club at the price of £3.10. Our shareholding fluctuates around the 10% mark and I do not see the day when it would ever extend beyond the 15-20% mark. Other directors can also buy a shares and the club can sell them to other individuals if they wish on an individual request basis. What they can't do is go out to public subscription without raising a prospectus which would be costly. So that is why they are selling b shares. So as we have said many times before money given to the Trust will go towards buying full shares in the club thus protecting/increasing the trusts shareholding and ensuring that supporters have a say in the running of the club. We see our role as being equal to the other directors only collectively. The other 4 directors have pledged £25,000 to the SOS appeal and we intend to match it (and exceed it if we can)They each have a vote, so do we,They give up thier time and energy for the club, so do we. They all individually love the club or they would not continue to do what they do and so do we. So Big Time I hope your money comes our way and if you are not already a Trust member, then I do hope you consider joining.
Anon at 11:39:08 Wednesday November 6 2002
Apparently Big Ron Atkinston was seen in discussions with 2 FAI blokes in a hotel in Ireland? I heard this from someone I know well and they looked like they were all happy. Has anyone else heard rumours of him becoming the next Ireland manager, I think he would do a great job.
LH at 11:36:01 Wednesday November 6 2002
Also remember 'A Town without a Club means you watch the wife spend
that money anyway on Saturday afternoons '
Good advice at 10:28:36 Wednesday November 6 2002
Remember the old saying, 'A fool and his money are soon parted'?
Anon at 00:06:49 Wednesday November 6 2002
Anon at 22.40 - My basic understanding of companies tells me that, in theory, if the trust raised enough money to enable them to buy more shares than anybody else then they would become the majority shareholder and effectively 'own' the club, just the same as if Fashanu had or if GdS had or Tom Barry does or some drunk and disorderly teenage millionaire yob from Kings Lynn does - the jammy bastard.
Anon at 00:00:11 Wednesday November 6 2002
Good advice....... unless you want something nice to hang on your wall that shows your allegiance to the club, and will help towards saving that club. Though its true that perhaps the toilet wall would be the most suitable place to hang the share certificate, possibly in a mahogany frame.
CP at 23:53:55 Tuesday November 5 2002
"Swinging the lead" is another old nautical term originating from when ships were navigating shallow water and some seamen were required to drop a lead weight tied to the end of a rope into the water to gauge the depth. Other seamen saw this as an easy job compared to splicing the main brace or whatever else it was they got up to and so the term evolved to mean taking it easy or being workshy. The nearest modern equivalent is probably 'kitman'
good advice at 23:50:10 Tuesday November 5 2002
I dont think shares at the Cobblers are worth the paper they printed on. because when you have bought them, who the bloody hell is going to give you your money back if you want to sell later on? Best put your money in the building society where you know you will at least be getting some small return, and at the same time keep your capital in tact.
Anon at 23:45:39 Tuesday November 5 2002
We beat Desborough, 1-0 after extra time. Khan scored. According to the offal site we dominated the game. Stamp played 45 minutes and did ok, no reaction to the injury.
ANON at 22:54:53 Tuesday November 5 2002
none give you're money straight to the club
Anon at 22:45:31 Tuesday November 5 2002
whats the point then
anon at 22:43:03 Tuesday November 5 2002
no
Anon at 22:40:17 Tuesday November 5 2002
if the trust were to buy enough shares with the money they are being given would they ever be in a majority shareholding position and actually own the club?
Anon at 22:34:48 Tuesday November 5 2002
No
B Non-voting shares at 22:32:34 Tuesday November 5 2002
Is that what the trust has been buying all these years?
KettCobb at 22:27:31 Tuesday November 5 2002
Anyone know how we got on at Desborough tonight? And more importantly how long did Stamp play and how did he do?!
M. Barrymore at 22:25:09 Tuesday November 5 2002
POOL PARTY at my house, sat eve at half 9 you are invited
cecil b at 21:30:17 Tuesday November 5 2002
lets send the Normans back to where they came from,there are to many of um taking up our air and while we at it get rid of the celts toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Anon at 20:57:07 Tuesday November 5 2002
It was the Romanians yes,i dont hate the chinks,in fact i find them quite funny,i do however have a problem with the kosovans and other such immigrants who come to our country and live on easy street but thats another argument altogether..
Sean from London at 20:57:02 Tuesday November 5 2002
664 is the attendance at Wimbledon v Rotherham
Anon at 20:56:25 Tuesday November 5 2002
http://wolf.webcruiser.org/index.php?ref=104757
Anon at 20:46:54 Tuesday November 5 2002
wasnt it the romainians who tried to kidnap her? and after all that anneka rice did for them.....
Nosey Parker at 20:44:49 Tuesday November 5 2002
Whats wrong with hating Chinks and Kosovans? They steal our jobs, Try to Kidnap Posh and Becks what next will they try I say out the lot of em?
Anon at 20:22:37 Tuesday November 5 2002
thank you train man. see you all in covent garden at 8pm for post match celebrtion then
Anon at 19:50:21 Tuesday November 5 2002
Interesting bit on the origin of the word posh. With winter just around the corner you might be interested to know the the term "cold enough to freeze the balls of a brass monkey" is also a nautical term. A brass monkey was used to hold iron cannon balls,which sat in holes a bit smaller than the cannon ball. In really cold weather the iron would contract and the balls would drop through the holes.
Big Time at 19:49:54 Tuesday November 5 2002
TCMP I have £200 for the SOS Appeal. Should it go to the Trust or be "invested" in B shares. What do you think?
tarquin at 19:45:26 Tuesday November 5 2002
POSH stands for Peterborough Oldest Shit Hole,trust me it does i looked it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TCMP at 19:23:46 Tuesday November 5 2002
Old Stratford, you are right about why they chose the nickname but the origin of the word is as written, anyway much more important than all that, the Trust have a real chance of collecting around £2000 on the Car Parks and around the ground on Thursday night but at present we only have around 5 volunteers, so if anyone can spare an hour or so then please ring Vince on 07790714089, talking of Old Stratford Cobblers, Paul was one of my all time favourite Cobblers strikers, I think he is still in the town working as a plumber/plasterer?
Bazza at 19:20:16 Tuesday November 5 2002
TRB MARK, You're right about the girls selling the 50/50 tickets, I always have to go and look for them! They were standing together at one end of the West Stand this week. How much training do you need to walk up and down a bit saying, ' 50/50 tickets, one pound each'?
Old Stratford Cobbler at 19:17:15 Tuesday November 5 2002
TCMP - there was a completely different story on Anglia News tonight re the Posh link at Peterborough. Apparently, a manager of Peterborough( I think when they were Fletton United) wanted to get posh players for a posh team and that's where the name originated. Always wanted to write to an MP!! Does this count?? By the way, who cares about Posh v Posh anyway. And she isn't even Posh!!
Bazza at 19:15:34 Tuesday November 5 2002
STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS ONE. Elvis, Lennon and Freddie Murcury have ameeting with God. 'OK' says God, 'you can all have another crack at life, you can go back as your favorite sports star if you can give me a good reason.' Elvis wants to be Schumacher, 'Cos he's the king, man.' Lennon wants to be Micheal Owen because he's a Liverpool icon. Murcury says, 'I want to be Billy Turley' 'Billy Turley? But why?' they all cry. 'Cos there's 2,000 pricks behind him, 10 arseholes in front of him and not a chance of catching anything!'
Train Spotter at 18:57:13 Tuesday November 5 2002
journey time to London is approx 2hrs 20 mins,trains leave Castle Stn at 32 mins past each hour,change at MK for bus to Hemel Hempstead,then train from there to Euston arriving in the smoke at xx52
TCMP at 18:48:22 Tuesday November 5 2002
But the Posh themselves pinched the phrase from the cruise liner trade of the late 1800's (including the Titanic) The well heeled would travel out to the states in a port side cabin to catch the sun, and travel home on the starboard side, therefore on a rich travellers cabin itinary list it would say POSH (Port Out, Starboard Home)useless info I know but Peterborough have as much of a cheek to lay claim to the phrase as has the new Queen Victoria.
Anon at 18:39:44 Tuesday November 5 2002
Posh vs Posh
Peterborough United Football club says Victoria Beckham has opposed its plans to register the team's traditional nickname, the Posh, as a trademark. The pop star became known as Posh Spice when she was a member of the band, the Spice Girls. But the club has used the name, Posh, since the 1920s.
Sean from London at 17:45:00 Tuesday November 5 2002
It looks like that Joe Kinnear will be the new Republic of Ireland manager. Good luck Joe (and thanks for the win on Saturday!)
Up the Irish!!
Anon at 17:35:09 Tuesday November 5 2002
anybody know how ,long its now taking to get to cockney on the train? on saturday
LH at 17:17:10 Tuesday November 5 2002
Will do . Thanks .
Anon at 17:02:19 Tuesday November 5 2002
LH, a lot of the tickets have been sold as block bookings to schools etc. As the tickets were very cheap they may have been purchased before establishing if all of them were needed. I think the club are trying to make sure that all tickets bought on this basis are needed so its probably worth contacting the club and letting them know you would be interested if any tickets are returned.
LH at 16:52:36 Tuesday November 5 2002
Anybody got a spare adult & child ticket for Thusday's England game ?
West stand preferable but know cant be fussey.
Sid at 16:38:01 Tuesday November 5 2002
All this moaning about the Club asking the supporters helping out in it's time of need, well you will have nothing to winge about when you wake up one morning with no Football Club ?
Sid at 15:03:42 Tuesday November 5 2002
Players are needed for the Cobblers supporters game v. QPR on Saturday morning, plus supporters to fill the coach who fancy a day out in London. Contact Anthony on 01604 510823 - ASAP! The coach will be leaving at 8:30 Weston Favell, 8:40 County Tavern, 9:00 Sixfields. You could not get a bus to London for just £8. Plus with all the train troubles, yet another reason for going by coach. Support the Cobblers Fans Team this weekend!
Vince at 15:00:13 Tuesday November 5 2002
Yes, volunteers are needed (we have 5 so far and need at least another 7) to help with the donation scheme, please email me or telephone on 07790714089 if you want to help.
when? at 14:29:42 Tuesday November 5 2002
9224, the game is on Thursday night. I think I heard that the club get a fixed fee about £5000 thats all. I also know that the trust are going to be present to operate the car park scheme and are looking for extra volunteers, perhaps the best way to help is to join them to make sure they have enough collectors for all the car parks and for general donation on the steps etc.
9224 at 14:11:30 Tuesday November 5 2002
We absolutely MUST target the 7,500 that will be at Sixfields tonight with a fixture card/flyer of some description. It's a captive audience, that's there to watch football and, if they enjoy the evening, may be tempted to go again. What's the betting we do nothing?
MEMORY LANE THE 4TH at 13:59:01 Tuesday November 5 2002
GET IT RIGHT!!
JUST WONDERING at 13:51:40 Tuesday November 5 2002
Does the Club make any money out of hosting the England U19 match? If so, is it a fixed rate, variable based upon gate receipts and are any proceeds going directly into the SOS appeal?
TRB Mark at 13:46:26 Tuesday November 5 2002
To Spirit....eh??
Macc Cobblers at 12:36:38 Tuesday November 5 2002
The Cheshire Building Society has affinity saving accounts for (amongst others) Macclesfield Town, Crewe Alexandra and Bolton Wanderers - where 1% of the average investment over the year goes to the respective football club.
Thus if 50000 people held on average £100 over the year,the club would receive £50000.
Does anybody know if there are any building societies which offer a similar facility in Northampton, as it could provide a nice income for the Cobblers.
All I know at 10:35:08 Tuesday November 5 2002
AllI Know is, is if Nosey repeats his childish and purile views in the ground then I for one will make sure he exits the ground does not pass go and hopefully picks up a £200 fine for being such a tw*t
Oh dear...... at 09:31:51 Tuesday November 5 2002
Watch out, Nosey. The Triads are on their way.
careless at 23:59:17 Monday November 4 2002
Nosey, I think you really are, as thick as two planks
John Atkinson's Rentboy at 23:58:18 Monday November 4 2002
Dear Mr. Birdman Akko of Memory Lane Records the Third in the Fishmarket (Weds, Fri and Sat), can I please have an interview to be your apprentice Shopkeeper? I have had experience of sorting Cds into alphabetical order. I think I should have the job.
Hotel Ender at 23:39:53 Monday November 4 2002
went to see the Youth Team tonight at Oadby, they lost 1-0. Couldn't see any potential 1st teamers on display. The game was played at 100 mph and rarely more than two passes strung together. KB was there watching as well.
Spirit of Christmas Past at 23:36:54 Monday November 4 2002
You are all heart TRB Mark. With supporters like you who needs the Cobblers?!
TRB Mark at 22:44:10 Monday November 4 2002
I wrote my comments offline before I read your comments, South Beds Cobbler. It seems we are thinking along the same lines. If the club wants us to give us £100, then they ought to come up with some ideas as to what they can give us back, apart from watching NTFC flounder for another season.
TRB Mark at 22:40:21 Monday November 4 2002
Well, I made my first cash contribution to the SOS fund via the bucket at the bottom of the stairs, as did my mates. I also bought my first ever 50/50 ticket. And the reason? The girl selling them actually said "50/50 tickets" as I walked past and call me bolshi, but if the sellers (be it programme, 50/50 tickets or whatever) don't let me know what they are selling, then I don't bother buying. When I bought one, my mates followed suit, and then we harangued some other fans we knew to buy some (reluctantly) as they come past. My point is, the commercial department should arrange a crash course in selling to those kids so that us fans are hassled from leaving Chevy's to the ground, to part with out money. You wouldn't think the club was in crisis as nothing seemed to have changed in that respect. You would expect to feel some sense of urgency eminating from the club on the ground. It's all to easy to whine in the papers that we should GIVE £100 to the club. Why don't the club SELL to us. I suppose the problem with that is they have to give something back in return. Anyway, to that end, I'm selling the previous years Cobblers Christmas cards for £4.00 a pack and £3.00 is going to the S0S appeal, via the Trust. That way, we supporters get something back, shares and a stronger voice in our club. With Ray's blessing, I'll post more details of how/where to get the cards soon.
Nosey Parker at 22:28:31 Monday November 4 2002
Repent my arse....its true and you know it. Bloody do gooder will be the death of this country.
oldbrook cobbler at 21:04:13 Monday November 4 2002
as i understand it south beds cobbler you dont actually get anything. your just made to feel part on ntfc. i reckon your suggestions sound pretty good though, worth mentioning to the club id say
south beds cobb at 20:57:16 Monday November 4 2002
Dissapointing to see S.O.S funds not going to good ,these non voting shares that are being issued tommorow, who can buy them and what benefits /returns can holders expect? What i would like to see is somthing like a cobblers s.o.s bond i.e for a payment of £100 the holder can be guarenteed getting big match tickets for 3 years, a bar/refreshment area at sixfields for bond holders to buy drinks before, during and after games this will help genorate extra revenue, but most importantly it will make those bond holders feel part of the club. This idea with some modifications should be then sold to the Northampton public through the media as a desperate measure to save the Cobblers and a good deal to be had by all.
accountant at 20:22:45 Monday November 4 2002
I love a quick buck.
south beds cobb at 20:17:44 Monday November 4 2002
Great result on saturday, even better nite out in luton afterwards, i,ll be dining out on this result for many weeks to come.credit my luton supporting friends gracious in defeat and celibrated into the early hours with us.Bring on Q.P.R
oldbrook cobbler at 20:11:14 Monday November 4 2002
£8,500 so far in car parking donations
oldbrook cobbler at 20:08:36 Monday November 4 2002
£1,609 collected saturday, not sure about running totals though
oldbrook cobbler at 20:05:03 Monday November 4 2002
heard on radio northampton today that the britannia pub got smashed up saturday. 22 luton fans were arrested and bailed. anyone know anymore about what happened?
Trust question at 20:02:11 Monday November 4 2002
some one told me that the car park collection on Saturday raised £1500? can anyone confirm this? if so well done, and what is the total so far raised by the trust on car parks and other fundraising, does anyone know?
careful at 19:54:07 Monday November 4 2002
careful nosey first "chinks" then an unnecasary referal to Kosavans, the only breed lower than diamonds fans are racists and your sailing close to the wind my friend, repent now and all will be forgivven
business? at 19:51:24 Monday November 4 2002
spending £15m on a second rate ground full of italian marble and lacking in supporters comforts don't sound like good business to me. nor is spending £5m on a team that struggles to get out the 3rd div. not to mention spending £2.5m a year on the wages of 30 players at a 3rd div club when you sending people down the road who earn less year month than most of the diamonds players make in a week, moving to china is not good business its just rampant capitilism and the betrayal of a local manufacturing history just to earn a quick buck. When Max gives up the reign at the diamonds the accountants at Griggs will probably take a similar attitude to cost reductions at nene park. I think I will go and follow Kettering
Nosey Parker at 19:45:50 Monday November 4 2002
Sure lets get some Kosovans in the club shop sure they will work "cash in hand"....Rushden if Uncle Max had not spunked all his money he could of carried on employing the LOCAL people who he has crapped on instead of the child labour he is using in Chink land.
accountant at 19:22:52 Monday November 4 2002
If it saves money Nosey thats a good idea, after all thats whats business is all about.
Internet Mad at 18:20:33 Monday November 4 2002
The club's media/marketing staff have just gone internet mad, they can't see the wood for the trees, or in this case they can't see the general customer for the attention paid to those of us lucky enough to be web aware. Gareth is very hobby horse driven 2 years ago it was programme based and now its cobblers world based perhaps soon he will see that to bring home the bacon you have got to take a visit to the high street butchers?
El Plastico at 18:15:16 Monday November 4 2002
'Chinks' is a racist term, Nosey.
Nosey Parker at 18:04:04 Monday November 4 2002
Will there be Chinks working in the Rushden club shop in the future to save money there as well?
LH at 18:00:43 Monday November 4 2002
Problem could be that the Club dont sell the tickets the ticket office
co do .
Headlands Cobbler at 17:23:51 Monday November 4 2002
Otis and TRB I couldnt agree more. I have written to the club on a few occasions regarding opening a shop over Christmas and also trying to sell itself more. Now Collins Sports has closed there is nothing in the Town centre. At the balloon festival both the Saints and Diamonds had a presence but no Cobblers. There was an estimated 100,000 people due to attend the festival but nothing from NTFC. Needless to say I have had no reponse from the club.
To Anon @ 22:36 at 16:45:37 Monday November 4 2002
What??? And learn how to be second in the league but still see your average attendance fall by 1,000 from last season?
Town Centre at 16:12:30 Monday November 4 2002
What empty shops in the Town Centre? theres no recession! any that look empty are earmarked for the Leisure industry (more bars!!) or Estate Agents etc., anyway come along to Memory Lane Records in the Fish Market (open Wednesday/Friday and Saturday) and be served by a Cobblers fan who is just starting to miss his Saturdays at the Theatre of Silence (I miss the hotel End), once I train an apprentice shopkeeper i will be back in the West Stand - watch out!!
LH at 16:07:23 Monday November 4 2002
Really enjoyable Game on Saturday. Good performance from everbody .
Being two goals up after 20 minutes meant that Gabbi & Forrester had so much room up front , this with good forward running from the midfield transformed the side . We looked fluid with plenty of options going forward and kept good shape when defending.
Key moment for me was Harpers smart save against Thorpe just before half time. If we had gone in 2-1 up I didn't want to find out how
brittle our confidence was. Gabbi's goal 1st Class , when you consider how swirling the wind was he judged it to perfection .
Best Game Harsley had in a Cobblers shirt ? Good ref kept the game going as well.One day for once when everything went for us.
accountant at 13:17:33 Monday November 4 2002
Well I suppose when they are losing 25million quid a year there isn't much choice. Carry on like that and the bank manager would soon pull the plug. A bit like he might have to do for you at sixfields come January 03.
Anon at 12:27:32 Monday November 4 2002
yes dr4e, the direones really know how to treat their fans well. like sacking them all and giving their jobs to the chinks.
9224 at 12:14:34 Monday November 4 2002
It sent a tingle up my spine to see the 1998-Model Sammo. He showed us what a quality centre-half he is (better than Warburton was at his peak) and a welcome return to when he did used to dominate strikers. Howard (who is not a small guy) won very little in the air, which shows what a benefit it is at the back to have experience as well as quality, as the only way Sammo could out-jump Howard was to time his leaps perfectly.
DR4E at 12:04:10 Monday November 4 2002
Anon at 22:36:18 Sunday November 3 2002 - it's because we have people who know what they are doing. No science there. I find it hypocritical that some of you are complaining about Luton hooligans when your own club clearly has problems in that area as well, and no I'm not talking about amateurs like kettcobb or davcobbler. Anyway, if you are still in business, see you next season. DIAMONDS!
Anon at 11:46:20 Monday November 4 2002
I thought Howards challenge for the ball that left Harper needing treatment was perfectly fair, he may have dived in a bit, and it looked bad, but the ball was there to be won and that was his only intent, no way did he deserve a booking. I thought Durkin had a good game, made a welcome change to have a decent ref.
pihuan at 06:53:41 Monday November 4 2002
Great performance on sat., reminds one that watching football can be a pleasure. Historically cobblers seem to have played better against good teams, and allowed indifferent teams to get into a game when a bit more effort would have buried them.
Interesting to see Steve Howard again. Letting him go was one of the biggest mistakes of recent years. Sammo handled him well, but he is a superb centre forward, and we haven't had one since he went. He was lucky not to be booked for some rash (or is it over enthusiastic) challenges, but his behaviour at the end, when he applauded Cobblers fans shows that the big man has a heart and a lot of bottle, after the stick he had been getting.
9224 at 23:58:41 Sunday November 3 2002
Bazza, you are right, Harsley was superb and it was good to see an end result in the form of the assist for Forrester. So far this year we've had to rely too much on Gabbiadini this year to score and to assist - it seems to be that if he has an off-game, so do we.
9224 at 23:55:55 Sunday November 3 2002
Hodgie our lucky charm!!! If he's managed to get himself fit WITHOUT the advantage of it being his full-time job, perhaps he should have been given the chance to do that last year!
Paul at 23:42:25 Sunday November 3 2002
You will not manage to get fans over from MK for many years yet. It's a fabricated Town pretending to be a city, which is made up of people who have moved there from afar. MK Dons, or whatever they are going to be called will have many problems too, especially if Wimbledon get relegated from Division 1 this season.
Anon at 22:36:18 Sunday November 3 2002
Why doesn't someone from the club go down to the Rushden and Diamonds Football club and ask why they are so succesful at marketing themselves.
Anon at 22:14:30 Sunday November 3 2002
GREAT match - agree with everyone here - Harsley was fabulous - Gabbi was inspired and Jamie looking good again. Hodgey was in the West stand next to us - looking very healthy and rather on the skinny side!
TRB Mark at 21:23:31 Sunday November 3 2002
There are business's who hire empty shops near or in the Grosvenor centre for a couple of months, usually before Christmas. I'm sure the Cobblers, in their current plight could do this and make the most of the biggest spendfest of the year, even if it wasn't viable for the rest of the year. The Saints have a very successful marketing teeam and the results can be seen by the amount of Saints shirts you see being worn and in places much further away from Northampton than the Cobblers can manage. And as for Barry Stonhill's "appeal" you would think he was appealing on behalf of the starving in the 3rd world, not for funds for a badly run football club with overpaid employee's.
Otis Cobbler at 20:22:12 Sunday November 3 2002
It's true about the low profile the Cobblers' marketing has. In a town with 200k inhabitants albeit a 2 club town, the Cobblers has a very minor profile. The efforts in attracting extra support seem half hearted to say the least. The Saints are getting bigger gates now than we are but what is the club doing to try to compete? We all know that success breeds success but in a town with no real footy rivals within 30 miles we should be looking to actively attract support from MK, Bedford, Mkt Harborough etc. I travel to these towns regularly on business and despite their proximity Northampton may as well be on the moon in terms of recognition of the Cobblers. Marketing has to raise its profile both in the borough and the surrounding area.
Anon at 19:49:59 Sunday November 3 2002
Bazza there was a fair few empty seats in the west stand as well, I totally agree with the comments about the clubs lack of marketing - no presence at UCN or the Balloon Festival, not even a club shop in town or at Weston Favell, no advertisements in the Chron, ET or MK papers advertising games and giving ticket info etc etc etc etc
Macc Cobblers at 19:48:52 Sunday November 3 2002
A big thank you to everyone collecting the car park donations !!
Bazza at 19:39:42 Sunday November 3 2002
Did anyone hear the idiot on, Radio Northampton interveiw,Jamie? 'Luton didn't pley very well did they?' Jamies reply,'Well I think perhaps we can take some of the credit for that don't you?' Bloody right you can Mr. Forrester, sir.
Bazza at 19:34:15 Sunday November 3 2002
9224, your MOM nominations are about right but how can you miss out Harsley? He was outstanding. Jamie looked like he used to, Sammo was back to his best and we played it on the floor. Woud've been nice to see Lincoln get a run out though. I'm sure the crowd was over near capacity, the only empty seats I saw were in The North Stand. Perhaps they 'forgot' to count one or two.
Anon at 18:28:00 Sunday November 3 2002
Many wonder what the Cobblers commercial "department" does to earns its keep. OK it sells advertisng space at Sixfields and.....?
The Parklands Cobbler at 17:33:21 Sunday November 3 2002
One problem that the club has always faced, is that its customer service is crap. Any business's top priority is the customer and any semblance of customer care has been lacking for many years. A prime example was Barry Stonhill's article in Friday's Chron, practically accusing supporters of not giving enough of there hard earnt money to the club. Another example that has just struck me is that of students. As an ex-UCN student, the club has failed to realise the huge market that the town's student population is. There are hundreds of exiled football fans living in the town, yet there is no match discount for students. Every year new students attend the Freshers fair, we're groups like local gyms, clubs etc. advertise their services. The Saints always have a stall at it, but the Cobblers never do. The Cobblers have no presence in a group of 10,000 people, many of whom could be attracted to watch the club if only the club's marketing department tried to attract them.
Rob Dunkley at 14:33:44 Sunday November 3 2002
We played it on the ground for most of the game. Harsley is quality and even Jamie looked interested, I wonder why. For once he did not get neck strain looking for the ball above his head. We have the players to play neat passing football, just do it more often please!
9224 at 13:05:41 Sunday November 3 2002
When I see the Cobblers play like that I wonder how we ever lose. We tore into the one of the division's form teams and made them look very ordinary. We were outstanding to a man - but the four main contenders for MoM - each with an equally justifiable claim - would be Forrester, Gabbiadini, Sampson and Harper.
Nosey Parker at 00:28:54 Sunday November 3 2002
Tell em what you think of there crap support..........lol http://www.lutonfc.com/
Anon at 00:04:03 Sunday November 3 2002
And I bet they will try them. The ones behind me were very quiet in the east stand....
Nosey Parker at 23:47:26 Saturday November 2 2002
Smashing up pubs that no one goes in is bollox.........Next time try the Sixfields Tavern or Cheveys you bunch of fuckwits!!
Vince at 22:18:03 Saturday November 2 2002
CAR PARK DONATION SCHEME - A big thank you to everyone who made a donation today, a total of £1609.06 was collected - the best so far - including (by popular demand!) over £300 collected at the bottom of the steps. Thanks again to everyone who donated and to those who collected the donations.
Anon at 20:53:14 Saturday November 2 2002
Was there any Luton fans there today? I didnt hear any.
Otis Cobbler at 19:26:50 Saturday November 2 2002
A great result and a terrific performance from all ,especially Gabbi.
But where were the missing fans? This always seems to happen when the police insist on an all ticket match. We need money! Why was it all ticket, there is no history of real trouble between the supporters. Perhaps the implicit suggestion there may be a problem keeps some fans away. I couldn't believe the number of empty seats in the north stand for what is a derby match (sort of- 36 miles). Luton are away in the cup to Stevenage in a real derby and the Herts police are not making that all ticket!
Anon at 19:25:34 Saturday November 2 2002
so they smashed up pubs that no sod goes in! big men!!!
Nosey Parker at 18:58:54 Saturday November 2 2002
Smashed up "The WELCOME".......did anyone notice except the tarts!!
Luton Hates Pubs at 18:51:42 Saturday November 2 2002
They smashed up the Black Lion and The Welcome!!!
Ted at 17:36:28 Saturday November 2 2002
Observer...That's a pathetic comment @ 13.33.On a brighter note,a superb performance today.All we need is to consistently play to this high level,and we should have no trouble.Perhaps we all have to eat a piece of humble pie after Kevans comments on Tuesday?
Anon at 16:13:42 Saturday November 2 2002
Gew on Marco.
Anon at 15:34:18 Saturday November 2 2002
Gew on Jamie.
Anon at 15:11:45 Saturday November 2 2002
Gew on Jamie.
observer at 13:33:24 Saturday November 2 2002
were god knows how much in debt, were trying to raise 500k and guess what we've got a new christmas tree in the club shop at the beginning of november! brilliant. no wonder were in the sh*t
Anon at 10:56:20 Saturday November 2 2002
Lets get the club in a viable position to continue and then address the problem of who runs the club.
therealslimMartinw at 08:11:06 Saturday November 2 2002
Everyone fan wants to see the club survive and would do as much as they could to facilitate that. But do we necessarily want to fund the continued existence of the board that got us into this mess. That's the problem.
Anon at 21:47:45 Friday November 1 2002
try the luton boards :-(
Pete at 19:40:47 Friday November 1 2002
One spare ticket for Luton for sale @ face value - ring Pete on 07850808745
Tarquin at 19:11:47 Friday November 1 2002
Why Dean peer sorry trollope
Bazza at 18:41:25 Friday November 1 2002
CON WILSON, bloody 'ell I'd forgotten about him!
MY TEAM FOR LUTON: Harper, Curruthers & Rickers at full back, Sammo, Burgess. Spedd preferred to Sammo if fit. Harsley, Trollope, Hargeaves, Asamoah wide Right, Gabbo & Jamie.
Anon at 15:39:26 Friday November 1 2002
Ring up the club and ask them how many have been sold.then post it on ere would ya so we all know.
Worried at 14:28:55 Friday November 1 2002
Any one know how many tickets have been sold for tomorrows match? Do you think we might get a decent-ish atmosphere??
LH at 12:14:55 Friday November 1 2002
Carlo Corrazin , even Sam Parkin . Some how you know that Steve Howard
is gonna score tomorrow.
Con Wilson at 11:06:13 Friday November 1 2002
Shut it Bazza you know I gave much more than you did.
Barry Stonhill at 11:05:38 Friday November 1 2002
But what about my loans?
United Front at 10:05:55 Friday November 1 2002
How are we to blame for wasting three months on Di Stefano? I think Stonhill, Hodder and all the other board members (excluding the Trust represented by TCMP) have to put their hand up for that one. I don't even blame them for their eagerness to bite off GDS's hand when you consider the mess we're in. What do others think about the possible scenario of GDS or other "undesirable" consortiums coming back in (possibly when we are in administration) and trying to pick us up for next to nothing?
anon at 09:34:11 Friday November 1 2002
perhaps if we had listened to TCMP earlie then we wouldn't have wasted 3 months on Di Steafano and would now be closer to the £500,000 target? I can't believe anyone now is saying perhaps we should have took his filthy luca.
WHAT! at 08:22:47 Friday November 1 2002
DEVILS ADVOCATE,SURELY?
Anon at 06:35:13 Friday November 1 2002
If there is a real chance we could go under then surely turning the Di-Stefano bid down (no matter how paltry) wasnt in the best interests of the club? Isnt it better to have a club than not?
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