Cobblers Comments
OCTOBER 2003
NT FCOK at 13:41:30 Friday October 31 2003
I dont believe that dicho, I feel they entrusted Wilko to produce the goods which he promplty did by getting the best of a young generation in the lower divs but got it sadly wrong by not investing like other teams have and would of done by including older experienced heads like gabbo or AS BELOW Robbins , It seems alot of damage has been done to moral and not enough done to protect the younger squad members,But Its definately all in place and the Cardozzas are getting to grips with what was a mistake and seem to be putting it right Its good that they have personaly gone along way to sort things out by getting more involved it shows passion and commitment on their part, I think that might even go some ways to the board shutdown and yes it should re start to allow people to contact the club first hand and not let it look like that Hotelend is the voice of the club of which it isn't, it just adds to the likes of MARVO going around making his own little elite gang whereas there will be no real independant thoughts allowed it will cause little pockets of groups all declaring that they are the light and the way, Marvo is on his way to being an extremist. Anyway Sod the hotelend its only living of the board closure and all seems to be forgotten that it was Rays site that was the main link to the old original NTFC board, at least you can come on here say what you feel (within reason) and get a reasonable response I doubt whether I would get a response from anyone on the Hotelend site IE Marvo who I do feel was part responsible for the increase of fraudsters and pics he tried to make him self too important.
Ray at 13:22:15 Friday October 31 2003
Please note that from 1st. November the questbook will be changing slightly. I'll copy all of October to the archives so nothing will be lost and the new guest book will look very similar but be hosted elsewhere. The main advantage of the new system is that I will have instant control over all postings, full IP tracking of posters is enabled and I can shut people off when needed. Watch this space.
dicho at 11:51:22 Friday October 31 2003
Just read your last post TCMP and I have to say that the stability you are advocating now is in stark contrast to what went on during the summer months. I accept that the management team has changed since then, but all the activity must have been sanctioned by the Cardozas at the time. I completely agree that the approach your club is taking now is an appropriate one, but it wasn't appropriate just a few months ago. You may argue that none of the players are on 'high' wages, but the likes of Josh Low don't come cheaply if they swap clubs and clearly you offered Smith more than Huddersfield thought wise to do. I also seem to remember you put a bid in For Luke Beckett and had you been successful there, you would have been facing an even more substantial wage bill. From my perspective it seems that The Cardozas have got over their first flush of enthusiasm and there has been a bit of a mind-shift. That isn't a forecast of doom, it is just an acknowledgement that the club's aspirations have fallen in line with the other reasonably ambitious clubs in the division. We achieve what we earn and not what we're given!
badger at 01:12:11 Friday October 31 2003
Well lets let Marvo RIP..... and it looks like Ray as found away of blocking pics......well done....good nite all....
Anon at 00:03:41 Friday October 31 2003
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Marvo at 23:46:16 Thursday October 30 2003
Strange things happening tonight! Oh well. Right, I have been at work all day and didn't get home until gone 8pm. Therefore we obviously have the imposters back. I for one welcomed the arrival of the password as I thought (wrongly) that this would allow Ray to get rid of the unwanted leeches who have nothing original to say of their own so instead try to spoil it for others. Sad. However if I was to respond to what other have (or have not) said today I would just be letting the imposters win. As I have no idea who is saying what, what would be the point of responding? This of course makes this board redundant. Anyway, I wish to resign from this board and will not post again. Please do not respond to this or post in my name again as it really will be pointless as I am about to get banned again. Therefore I will not be able to read you're (so) witty remarks. You'll have to find another mug to ridicule. right, this is my final act of defiance, over to you Ray
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moultoncobbler at 19:55:38 Thursday October 30 2003
NT FCOK I too would like to know the real reason for shutting down the official club messageboard. I would imagine it has more to do with comments about the club rather than allegations of another kind. In any case they needn't bother re-opening it as all the contributors have migrated to the Hotel End site.
badger at 19:55:07 Thursday October 30 2003
Anon......I posted the other night and forgot to enter my name and email.....it came up with your name on my post....sorry.
It was on Anon at 21:50:57 Sunday October 26 2003
Did you see it????
badger at 19:49:55 Thursday October 30 2003
Anon..... I think you must be on the wrong site......No inbreds on this site.....unless you are counting yourself.....try the village boy site down the road...bicker...bicker...
Anon at 19:23:07 Thursday October 30 2003
Must say that inbred bickering between factions of NTFC is good to see once again and makes this site enjoyable for all readers, keep up the good work.
jm at 18:55:40 Thursday October 30 2003
Mark Robins released on a free transfer today by rotherham....what are we waiting for!!!
badger at 18:40:02 Thursday October 30 2003
Well...was that post Marvo??.....we will soon know.....cc number one site.....Up The Cobblers....... I can't go to the southend game....I hope we get a good turn out.....I can remember some great results away at Southend in the 80's....lots of goals....boxing day away we hammered them....come on the boys....
NT FCOK at 18:12:08 Thursday October 30 2003
Nice to see that Marvo has come to his senses and realises that I am far superior to him. Still think you need your arse smacked!
NT FCOK at 18:04:53 Thursday October 30 2003
I thought that the offal site was closed temporarily because of the situation at the time to protect the club and the prem players from being named in the rape allegation,but I have been on several other teams sites and they all seem to be up and running what is the real reason for ours being shut? is it anything to do with the change of management and all of the posts aimed at the club?
jm at 17:55:54 Thursday October 30 2003
Marvo at 17:30:15 Thursday October 30 2003 = irony or imposter???
jm at 17:55:30 Thursday October 30 2003
Marvo at 17:30:15 Thursday October 30 2003 = irony or imposter???
jm at 17:53:15 Thursday October 30 2003
i have visited the hotel end site,and while many of the official site posters seem to use it,i prefer c.c for its simplicity. i for one 'do' have the time to sift through the threads but choose not to.
Marvo at 17:30:15 Thursday October 30 2003
NT FCOK, I have to apologise for my behaviour and my bleating on. I respect what you have to say and am ashamed of the way I have had to behave. The Hotel End site is a cheap imitation of this site and does not add anything to the NTFC discussion. I will shut up with my non sensicle uninformed participation on this website.
badger at 16:33:58 Thursday October 30 2003
NTFCOK.....Marvo a Joke.....well ...well...getting his bottom smacked...please not in public...... NTFC OK
NT FCOK at 16:10:20 Thursday October 30 2003
TC IF or should I say when we get the lease do the council have certain rights or clauses which will allow them acces to the ground in anyway shape or form IE using the pitch , money from carparks etc or will we have overall control on the running of the stadium which would allow us to put up a sign that says this is sixfields stadium the home of NTFC?...................MARVO! your going the right way for a smacked bottom, I KNOW who you are anyway you work at the joke shop on the welly road.
NT FCOK at 15:57:19 Thursday October 30 2003
Marvo already been there (hotelend) and came straight back mate , this is by far the best on the footballing web as far as ntfc fans are concerned apart from ntfc's own site, but you have only been on here for short while compared to some! you what gives you the right to say anything really about this site because it was badly in decline when you first arrived and you have never really seen it otherwise unless you was an anon or had a different handle and you posted a lot more pictures than most mate.I have been on this site for some considerable time under different names ( it makes a change to have a different handle)and as for accusing me of impersonating you (that would never happen because you aint that good looking) and threatening me (22:35:20 oct 28 tues) your going the right way for a smacked bottom, beleive me when I say "you dont want to go there" I know who you are anyway,,,you work at the joke shop on the Welly Road............Anyway back to reality TCMP would these three stages be concurrent over three seasons::Closed or Open?
Sealo at 15:22:53 Thursday October 30 2003
Weather will be wet
Ray at 12:06:54 Thursday October 30 2003
Yes - tipping compo is still running - I really will get round to updating shortly - promise.
Vince at 11:51:28 Thursday October 30 2003
Following TCMP's reference to travel clubs there are some seats left on the Trust Coach to Southend on Saturday - Weston Favell at 10.00am, County Tavern at 10.10am, Sixfields at 10.30am and Newport Pagnell Services at 10.45am. Pub/refreshment stop. The fare is £10 adults £8 concessions. Phone Jim (o1327 312071 or Trina (01604 499534) to book.
nsb at 11:45:17 Thursday October 30 2003
TCMP, you say you dont suffer fools gladly, but then again you are a labour mp :) just pulling your leg! i might run for tory leader though, i couldnt do any worse than IDS could i?
Vince at 11:44:40 Thursday October 30 2003
Ray, is the tipping comp. runing this season? - the facility to enter score predictions is there but defaults to the first game of the season and so far there is no tipping table for this season. Realise you probably have more important things to do but would like to know if its still worth sending in entries - thanks
TCMP at 11:08:21 Thursday October 30 2003
As far as I am concerned we should have more message boards, more travel clubs, more supporters and more success full stop. The reason I use this board is simple, first it's easy to read as in the flow of conversation without constant mouse clicks on threads and also as someone who is busy it is the easiest to dip in and out of. I have used other boards, I used to post on the official site and Sid has reproduced material from this site on his with Rays permission in the past but CC is still my favorite and I wish the Hotel Site every success as well. Badger, Dicho and Spring Park Cobbler in essence all ask the same question and the answer is that whta you get for a player in transfer fee is a secondary issue, it is keeping a tight reign on the wage bill that counts and what we are trying to do at Sixfields is not to abuse the good faith that David and Tony Cardoza have shown in the club by suggesting like other clubs that success can only be bought out of the pockets of the Chairman. What we are trying to do is enable the club to stand on it's own two feet. The developments planned are about raising the revenue stream coming into the club and ensuring that a Div 1 club has a Div 1 income and yes Dicho that is our goal. We are building NTFC as the model football business (and both David and Tony have succeeded already as individuals in the business world) So fans should not expect constant signings and panic buys but the path of evolution not revolution (and me a socialist)If you like our chant should be "WHAT DO WE WANT? STEADY PROGRESS WHEN DO WE WANT IT? OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS" That way the club will be in safe hands over the long term and not over reliant on individual cash inputs. I hope David and Tony Cardoza are here for a long long time and that there children and grandchildren all enjoy there time at Sixfields. People that know me, will tell you that I am a pretty good judge of character and that I do not suffer fools gladly, so let me tell you I am as sure of David and Tony Cardoza good intentions as I was unsure that Giovanni Di Stefano would have been wrong for our club. Slowly but surely we will rise up the league and I for one am looking forward to the ride.
badger at 10:38:57 Thursday October 30 2003
Ray..... Point taken......I like this board very much.....and it's always my first point of call.....keep up the good work...and I'm sure they will all be back....but I'm not sure if I want them all...some are a bit over the top...
Rob at 10:34:26 Thursday October 30 2003
You are 100% correct Ray.Oh and by the way when's Xmas ? We never lose after Xmas and we need a run!!NTFC DIV III 2003/04 Half a Chance Champions !!
Moultoncobbler at 10:31:17 Thursday October 30 2003
If Dicho is short for Dichotemy (a sometimes poster on the rivals site) then he is a Huddersfield supporter. Is that right Dicho? It's unusual for fans of other clubs to post on here (execept a few Direones fans) so it's always interesting to have an opposing view.
Ray at 10:05:25 Thursday October 30 2003
Frankly the discussion about the various merits of this - the real Number one board - and the Hotel End board is laughable. Cobblers Comments has had over one million hits and has more registered users. Some people prefer the old fashioned threads some prefer to have a conversation. I would also have been more impressed if images hadnt been stolen from me - but there again they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Ray at 08:12:36 Thursday October 30 2003
Yes I joined purely to be able to get a message to owners of the site to stop using my copyrighted images.
Pihuan at 06:06:37 Thursday October 30 2003
Like a number of other posters I prefer the format of this board to that of the thread based sites, I have limited time and prefer to just read through and commwnt rather than plough through all the threads and find i 'm not interested in most of them. News re the Stadium is very encouraging. We've spent enough time in the doldrums, it would be great to feel that we could really move on instead of being perennial strugglers. It has become rather quiet on this board, can't believe I'm saying this, but I even miss Ted!
badger at 00:15:26 Thursday October 30 2003
Ray......I see that you have joined the Hotel end site the other day......just checking on the opposition then ????? What NO POSTS yet ??....
badger at 23:42:36 Wednesday October 29 2003
Spring Park Cobbler ..... I'm thinking if the Cardoza's departed the Cobblers would fold....unless some other steps in....very unlikely don't you think??..... I'm just hoping that the Cardoza's are here to stay....and it's about time the Cobblers had a little bit of luck.....
badger at 23:31:08 Wednesday October 29 2003
Marvo....Rob....Hits on Hotel End site means every time you access a page on the site.....so lots of hits on data base...dicho...Who's your team then?????.........Come on you Cobblers.....
Spring Park Cobbler at 23:28:25 Wednesday October 29 2003
Just interested in what people think about Cobblers long term future. Following Max Grigg's departure after putting £30M into Diamonds what would happen if the Cardoza's departed. What I'm thinking of is a longish period without any success, perhaps another season. The fans start getting at the Cardozas and they decide to cut their losses and get out. What would happen to the club finances? Alternatively if control of the stadium passes out of the hands of the council into the Cardozas and they then take the same line as Max Griggs what would happen to the club? I think there are dangers here long term that need to be discussed by fans and the trust.
Marvo at 23:07:39 Wednesday October 29 2003
No idea Rob but I will post a question to find out exactly what a "hit" means. The hotel end is a very good site and since the registration has been introduced, this site has returned to what it does best, comments on the Cobblers. I hope both go on to better things.
dicho at 22:58:46 Wednesday October 29 2003
Badger, those are the questions that Mr Tony Clarke might try to address, but hope to avoid. Although I'm just a bit of an imposter, I will be at sixfields several times this season and I will be wanting you to win in all bar one of those games. This forum has evolved into a decent place to read intelligent and intuitive comment
Rob at 22:43:02 Wednesday October 29 2003
Hi Marvo, stats appreciated thanks for the info. I guess with TCMP he has always been here and is available to anyone, registration doesn't cost it's merely a formality.No one is restricted in terms of access and the format of CobbComms is in my opinion far superior to the thread type board I assume the Hotel End site offers.With the Hotel End site hits I assume they are not unique, again with the thread type of posting and viewing I would imagine a 20 minute stay would generate a hundred or so "hits" per user?
Marvo at 21:15:54 Wednesday October 29 2003
In response to "Rob at 10.32", sorry for the delay I have been at work. The statistics for posts and such are kept on a page on the hotel ender and are free for anyone to see. On Tuesday there were 26 posts on Cobblers Comments, 3 of them mine. On the hotel end site there were 352. I couldn't tell you how many "hits" this site has as I am not subject to that information. However "Hits" are recorded on the hotel end site and they recorded 7438 on Tuesday. I do not want to question your knowledge of such but I seriously doubt this site has more hits. Still, that is irrelevant. Cobblers Comments is unique in that it allows access to our Trust representative Tony Clarke MP, at least it does to those who are registered. Now this begs the obvious question. Why should the trust representative limit his "appearances" to one format when quite obviously more of the people he represents use another place to air their views. Before Cobblers Comments was restricted you could argue that anybody could come on here and address our representative but that is now clearly not the case. I see this as a dilemma for TCMP as surely he can't be seen to favour one band of supporters above another. The thread argument doesn't wash either as if he wanted, he could advertise that he would be on the board at a certain day/time and people could post questions on one thread. There are quite a lot of conversations that go on on the hotel end site between two or three people on a single thread and when that happens there is no difference whatsoever than when the same thing happens on here. I have no reason or wish to see the demise of either Cobblers Comments or the hotel end site, surely there is room for both. I contribute to both as do many other names I see on here. However when people claim this site is better then they are on thin ice, in my opinion. The only thing this site can provide that the hotel end doesn't it TCMP.
badger at 19:27:31 Wednesday October 29 2003
dicho......Thanks for your wishing us well…..and I agree about any players that we would wish to get rid off not getting many £’s for….....our wage bill must be very high and our gate revenue very low……so how long will Mr C keep funding us ????
dicho at 19:08:00 Wednesday October 29 2003
So TC, are you saying that you seriously expect to be in div 1 in a few years? I don't doubt it if the club's financers are prepared to pour as much money into the club as the Whelans, Madejskis and Hamams of this world. From a neutral observer's perspective it seems that David C has reined in his cheque-book, at least for the time being. How much more money do you think the BOD might sanction during the remainder of this season to fund further transfer fees and wages. I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but your comments would be appreciated by your own fans even more than this neutral numpty. Also (and I am developing a healthy admiration for the way that you have dealt with my posts) who would the club sell to finance any new signings? Trollope, Harsley amd Hargreaves wouldn't earn a transfer fee in today's climate, but Burgess might have done given time.
Good luck to NTAFC and all their supporters, I genuinely wish you well.
MK Cobbler at 19:06:27 Wednesday October 29 2003
This remains the best site and if the price of registering is that sanity has returned this is a very small price to pay. Thanks Ray.
badger at 18:58:55 Wednesday October 29 2003
We are very lucky to have Tony as the Trusts member on the board and I’m sure he knows how much we all appreciate all the work he has done for the club and the town. Like I have said we would have him in Wellingboro’ any day……. Thanks Tony…..and keep all the info coming when you can….
badger at 18:44:13 Wednesday October 29 2003
Thanks for that TCMP.....yes I like this sites format, it does flow very well....... I wish you were Wellingboro's MP ..... any chance of a transfer ????? Wellingboro' Town FC could have done with help from you.....RIP....
dicho at 18:36:25 Wednesday October 29 2003
I have fully taken on board your salient point MK.
Badger, are we at risk of losing TCMP to an airy fairy site? The hotel ender site is pre-occupied with presentation rather than substance. I'm quite sure TCMP wouldn't feel comfortable on there!!!
TCMP at 18:31:21 Wednesday October 29 2003
Make that 11 posts, Cobblers Comments is still the best format for messages as the conversation flows and is not disrupted by having to post in threads, so well done Ray for keeping the faith despite many problems and long may it continue. In fact Ray you should download previous years onto CD and send them to the County Records office as they provide an invaluable insight into both the Football Club and and the Social History of the times, What they will make of Tag and Ted et al in 100 years will be really interesting!! ajp, I am an optimist so I will replace the word If with When and say we are nearly there but there is still work to do before we can make an announcement or start celabrating.So no real snag but more negotiations needed before we are there. Dicho you ask why 25,000? well at first it will only be 17,500 but if we are to be succesful then we have to plan for every eventuallity, I believe that when the product on the pitch is right then we can expect 7-10,000 as an average in Div 3 or 2, but in Div 1 we need to allow for more. particullarly to allow for a full allocation of away fans as well as home supporters. If our home average becomes say 10,000 why should we turn money away by not being able to provide 5000 tickets for those clubs who want them for their away support. If we draw a big name at the moment in the FA cup we would have no choice other than to sell out at 7800 aqnd wonder how many more tickets we could have sold. Therefore with 17,500 we are giving ourselves the chance to stage all matchs at all levels upto div 1 and not turn fans away. Also the type of developments we have in mind lend themselves to larger sized stands than simply adding on a 100 seats here and there. I hope this explains matters alittle more
badger at 18:13:31 Wednesday October 29 2003
Well Ten posts to date....
badger at 18:09:51 Wednesday October 29 2003
Well lads....only 7 posts on here all day.....Is this site on it's way out?...... I hope not......but the Hotel End site lots more hits & posts... and thats a fact..... Up the Cobbs
MK Cobbler at 18:08:15 Wednesday October 29 2003
Dicho, because we are an ambitious club which finally has some money from the Cardoza family wealth backing up its ambitions.
dicho at 18:03:49 Wednesday October 29 2003
Can someone tell me why the Cobblers need a 25,000 seater stadium?
I registered because I got quite interested in some of the dialogue that was going on upon this site, but only the footy stuff. I'm not trying to patronise or ingratiate, but you need an independent observer to keep TCMP and the rest of you in order. I am not an intellectual, so there is no need to attempt to bully or castigate me. I won't post anything that is unsavoury or particularly controversial, so I won't get banned and therefore you will have to put up with me unless you don't stimulate my interest.
It's all in a good cause I think! BTW, last time I posted on this board only TCMP was gracious enough to register my efforts. I wouldn't want to be an MP, but at least you have got one that is interested enough in the club to raise his head above the parapet. Dead useful when it comes to getting leases for the ground from the council. We watch!
MKMal at 16:54:24 Wednesday October 29 2003
I see that Trolley is named in the Welsh squad for the play-offs this means he is unavailable for the Swansea game. Its a Welsh conspiracy cause I bet he doesn't stand a chance of playing unless about six are injured.
ajp at 14:24:30 Wednesday October 29 2003
TCMP, i see you say if we get the stadium where as a few weeks/months ago you were saying when, have we hit a snag?
ajp at 14:22:12 Wednesday October 29 2003
TCMP, i see your now saying if we get the stadium, where as a few weeks/months ago you were saying when, have we hit a snag?
TCMP at 13:17:17 Wednesday October 29 2003
NT FCOK, We have to grt the lease on the stadium first but if we do then initially the plans will take capacity upto 17,500 in 3 phases but eventually it could go as high as 25,000. Sid, what we are trying to do is to make sure that the club sorts its finances once and for all so therefore it's less aquestion of what can be afforded and more a case of how can we balance the playing staff budget to meet the leagues requirments and keep us in budget. So yes it is as you say keeping an eye on spending, and making sure that we fair with players in the current squad who are not part of our long term plans by assisting them to move on when we bring others in. I hope this makes it clearer
moultoncobbler at 12:05:15 Wednesday October 29 2003
Rob I dont know where Marvo gets his figures from but The Hotel End site has far more hits than this one as nearly all the users from the official board are now using that site and the official board was getting anything up to 300 hits a day, before they decided we would be better off without it.
The official site is now officially shite. Also the rivals board seems to be dying a death too.
Rob at 10:32:55 Wednesday October 29 2003
Marvo you are having a laugh aren't you? Your numbers really are a bit of a joke, hits here far outway the hotelend site you keep going on about
Pihuan at 06:05:18 Wednesday October 29 2003
Now then boys! Break it up or you will both have to go and stand in the corner. Seriously though, it IS imprsonators who caused all the bother on this site and I hope they don't start up again. Re R + D situation, I wouldn't shed any tears if they do go down the pan, but there is always the possibilty that someone else will take it on. So has Uncle Max run out of cash, or is he bored with his toy now that he has got one over on the Cobblers, that always being the object of the exercise as far as I can see. Now Franchise FC the sooner they go down the pan the better.
Marvo at 22:47:11 Tuesday October 28 2003
This is the 26th post on here today. In the same time span there has been 324 posts on the hotel end site. Please don't join us over there NT FCOK. It is your sort that spoil it for the majority. It would noty surprise me at all if it were not youi doing the impersonating. You seem to be the only one who thinks it was "Funny".
Marvo at 22:35:22 Tuesday October 28 2003
You just can't shut up can you? Come and say hello sometime.
NT FCOK at 22:04:08 Tuesday October 28 2003
and dont send anymore of your silly pictures:(15:00:41. FRIDAY OCT 17)
Sid at 22:00:56 Tuesday October 28 2003
TCMP just a word on the RSMW's thoughts on the 'budget being exhausted' if you could. Is it not the case of still keeping an eye the spending, rather than having a 30+ man squad that does the club no favours, and keeping costs to a minimum?
NT FCOK at 21:55:02 Tuesday October 28 2003
Like I said every time you rise to the occasion.If you have a problem drop ray a line on the E-mail if someones riding your back. Its funny because of the way you respond. I bet you was the class snitch or milk monitor or something.. LIGHTEN UP! others like myself have a little gripe if someone is IMPERSONATING them you go right of the rod what do you think ray is going to do when you start spouting I WANT JUSTICE and dont forget it was YOU who more or less ACCUSSED RAY of protecting somebody (20:55:20 FRIDAY OCT 24) A little rude dont you think! especially as you were the first to get the boot of this site! pipe down and stop bleating.
Marvo at 21:21:43 Tuesday October 28 2003
FAO: NT FCOK. I for one am very pleased with the way this board has returned to its true meaning, a place for people to comment on the Cobblers. I pointed out to Ray that I and Ralph had been impersonated, not in any funny way, I was supposed to be considering changing allegiances and called the team a bunch of imbeciles, Ralph was supposed to be calling for Colin Calderwood to be dismissed. Why you find it funny that we were victims, as far as I know the only victims since this board was made into password control, of misrepresentation I do not understand. I have not forgotten you alluded that I was responsible for a lot of the problems on here and I would respectively request that you no longer refer to me in your postings. I of course will reciprocate.
NT FCOK at 19:44:02 Tuesday October 28 2003
Sorry TC its just idle keyboard chatter on my part...Anyway! If we buy the ground and IF we upgrade what would the new capacity likely be?
TCMP at 18:56:07 Tuesday October 28 2003
NT FCOK, UTC stands for UP the cobblers, so you have now got me really worried!!
TCMP at 18:54:48 Tuesday October 28 2003
I just wanted was to say how very sad I was to hear about Evelyn Smith passing away, I speak to Alex and Evelyn on most matchdays and I know Evelyn's health has not been good lately but it was a real shock to hear of her passing. I remember Evelyn and Alex from way wayback when the supporters club operated out of a house opposite the Hotel End in Abington Avenue, Evelyn would sell souveniers out the back room or be taking coach bookings in the front room (yes it really was like a normal terrace house) Alex and Evelyn have given the best part of their lives to supporting the Cobblers and the club will be a sadder place with her not around. I hope Alex still feels able to attend and that supporters will give him their support, it will I know be hard for him being at the club without her being around. Sleep well Evelyn, you were a real diamond and a Cobblers fan through and through.
NT FCOK at 18:41:40 Tuesday October 28 2003
Bin Reading some of the posting , I dont think we will get the go ahead for the "hotel end" to the right of the players entrance purely because it is safer and easier to filter the away fans straight onto the duel carriageway (using the vehicles of course) and away from the town, could you imagine the likes of Cardiff fans in the North stand marauding through the crowds coming out of the west and family stands to get to the away carparks I dont think so, The bit about Marvo being impersonated was funny because he rises to the occation every time and the 24 hours on bit and nobody arrested made me fall of my chair. Diamonds was only a matter of time before that happened if max wants to give the ground away give it kettering or Spencer fc or better still give it to a rugby team so they can carve it up before every home game like the council did with us ,wer'nt they called the knights or something or other. Sad to hear about a devoted fan like evelyn did not really know her personally met her a few times and seen her at the ground regualary with her husband alex with whom I worked with once on site he was laying vinyl flooring at the time on new houses, anyway Marvo its frustrating to have someone riding your back like that but I think everybody on here has had it once or twice including myself. Does UTC stand for a cobblers greating or something not so nice aimed at TC. No offence TC.
MK Cobbler at 16:51:43 Tuesday October 28 2003
Vince, I cannot be certain but I would reckon that the MK supporters will mainly be forund in the north and west MK area e.g. Wolverton, Newport Pagnall, Stony Stratford and Buckingham.
Vince at 15:53:30 Tuesday October 28 2003
MK Mal,(the anon at 10:02 was me - forgot to add my name!) agreed that there are plenty of Cobblers fans with MK postcodes and NTFC has had good support from the south of Northampton, it would be interesting to know where they are based bearing in mind that MK codes cover quite a wide area outside Milton Keynes (eg Bedford and Olney. Sad to hear that some ex NTFC season ticket holders have switched to Franchise although maybe they would not have renewed anyway, hopefully people like that would come back to Sixfields if Franchise fails but the "new football fans" who waited for a league club to drop into their laps before going to games are going to be more difficult to attract.
Ray at 15:27:46 Tuesday October 28 2003
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MKMal at 15:24:53 Tuesday October 28 2003
F.A.O. Anon, Did you know that nearly a third of our season ticket holders are from MK Post codes. So the real Cobblers supporters can be arsed to get off their backsides and do travel from MK. Although I do know several people who were Cobblers season ticket holders for at least the last five years are now Franchise Season ticket holders. Sad really, but it was inevitable with the crap that has been dished up at Sixfields over the last couple of seasons. Still I will keep coming as I have done for the last 38 years. Gluton for punishment eh! UTC
Matt Scott at 15:05:46 Tuesday October 28 2003
How do I refresh board without having to post inane babble like I a doing now?
Ralph at 14:07:23 Tuesday October 28 2003
It is fitting and right that Evelyn Smith be remembered by the club on its official noticeboards. Along with her husband she seemed like a permanent fixture on matchdays both at Sixfields and at The County Ground as far back as I can remember. A very caring lady, always immaculately turned out and as dedicated as any I know.
Nosey Parker at 13:57:04 Tuesday October 28 2003
OH no Rubbish and Dustbins have got to find a new "mug" to support their silly little outfit. . .LOL
Regarding Wimbledon V Watford. . .it was like watching the Cobblers all over again!!
Vince at 12:36:59 Tuesday October 28 2003
Dyl, I don't think the lady who sells programmes by the club shop is Evelyn. Evelyn organised the programme sellers and was seen around the ground usually carrying a pile of programmes. Evelyn was a very cheery lady who always seemed to be smiling, nice tribute to her from anon at 9:52
Dyl at 12:26:13 Tuesday October 28 2003
I am trying to picture Evelyn Smith. Is she the lady who sells/sold programmes by the shop at Sixfields?
Vince at 11:09:38 Tuesday October 28 2003
The latest Trust Newsletter has recently been posted to all Trust members. If anyone who is not currently a Trust member would like a copy please email me with a mailing address.
Ray at 10:57:21 Tuesday October 28 2003
It would be appreciated if "anon" postings were kept to a minimum.
Anon at 10:02:47 Tuesday October 28 2003
The Griggs situation at R&D's highlights the perils of relying on one person to basically bankroll a club that otherwise would not be viable. Hopefully the situation at Northampton is a lot different and that the planned stadium expansion and NTFC acheiving Div 1 status will enable whole operation at Northampton to stand on its own feet. Personally I don't want R&D's to go down the pan as it would acheive nothing other than further job losses in that area and like Spring Park cobbler I enjoy local rivalry - can't see their demise increasing support for NTFC athough it might benefit Kettering, although alas too late for Wellingborough. Also don't think we would get any extra support if Franchise failed, lets face it if the extra fans that are going to the NHS couldn't be bothered to travel to Northampton before why should they in the future? - unless of course we make the premiership when even the armchair fans of MK's may find enough energy to drag themselves away from the TV to watch the likes of Man Utd at Sixfields.
Anon at 09:52:43 Tuesday October 28 2003
We should all be saddened at the news on the club site of Evelyn Smith. She was absolutely devoted to the club over many, many years and played a great part in the old supporters club. I well remember going on supporters club away trips in my youth and as I was always on my own she went out of her way to look after me on these trips. She was a great and loyal Cobblers fan and will be deeply missed. I extend my sympathies to her family and friends.
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:04:39 Tuesday October 28 2003
Spot on Marvo! On hearing the news I embarked on a mini 'text' campaign targeting a few 'turncoats' that I know personally - one even phoned be back whilst on holiday in Cyprus! And to make it even better he didnt know the news before I told him - him and his mrs are season ticket holders there! I posted on the Hotel end site a couple of weeks ago about it because I have a source who knows Andy Burgess very well - apparently he will be shortly going to WestHam. The plan now is for Max to offload as many players before selling up in order to reduce his own losses. It is very ironic that he is willing to hand over the club for nothing but has put the ground/shop/restaurant etc up for sale through his company. So it turns out that toy town could well end up not even owning their own ground and having to rent it from Max! Whilst we will be the proud owners of sixfields. To use the term that the worm has turned full turn is a big understatement. I look forward to their demise and there eventual relegation back to non league whilst an upturn in Kettering Towns long term fortunes cannot be ruled out. As for ourselves, if we can stay clear of relegation this season (which with 30 odd games we should do PROVIDING additional players are brought in to counter our obvious weaknesses) then there is no reason why we cannot overtake them very soon in terms of league status. Franchise will have gone bust by then so we will once again have a huge area to draw support from with no competition. Marketed correctly, a bit of luck, and providing the Cordoza's dont get bord and the future looks brighter by the day. Yesterdays news certainly lifted my spirits afters Leytons 89th minute equiliser on Saturday. Roll on Saturday when we will surely get that elusive win under our belts at Southend - by far the worst 'holiday resort' I have ever visited in this country!
therealslimmartinw at 09:04:21 Tuesday October 28 2003
Mmmm. New players. From the sound of TCMP, there is not the money to throw around that perhaps we all thought. If Burgess left the club last week and Walker came in on loan so, "as you can see the revolving door has to turn both ways", that leads me to believe that we have to lose players to bring players in. Is that the situation? Has the budget on players been exhausted?
Rob at 06:15:44 Tuesday October 28 2003
This is awesome a Board dedicated to the Cobblers discussing Cobblers Comments! When I next get to a game I'll give you my feedback !! I'll need a lift though Roy !!
Marvo at 23:10:12 Monday October 27 2003
I would like to say how I agree with everything you've just said Spring Park Cobbler..............but I can't! I hope they go belly-up as soon as possible. I would prefer them to crash completely, but if a series of relegations is the best I can get, that will do. A club built on the vindictiveness of one sour old man with complete contempt and disrespect for all those with longer histories around, deserves exactly nothing. If the choice was Cobblers promoted or Diremoans fold, I'd choose the latter. We can always go up another year.
Spring Park Cobbler at 22:32:35 Monday October 27 2003
Just interested in the decision of Max Griggs to off load the diamonds. I have always felt that it would be impossible to permanently build a league club in an area without a large enough population to support it and hence finance it. Diamonds are placed in an area without large populations surrounding them to provide that support. Wellingborough is probably the largest populated town close enough to them that could be expected to supply the fan base but in terms of the numbers required for a league club the population is still too small to provide them.
I think that the drain on Griggs funds has become to great and he realises he will be unable to pull in the numbers locally to allow the club to be finacially independent of him and to stand on its own two feet.
Despite the fact I am a lifelong Cobblers supporter and have always resented the moneybags approach to building a team from destroying two well known local outfits and artificially creating a club. I felt that the extra local rivalry was great and in some ways it will be a pity if they inevitably disappear due to a lack of finance.
El Marquis at 19:49:33 Monday October 27 2003
Euro laws have nothing to do with terracing. Some of the new stadia being built in Germany for the 2006 World Cup have terracing. It's just that the terracing cannot be used for any FIFA/UEFA competition & let's face it, that ain't gonna happen here. I don't know about rubbish countries though, they always seem to have standing eg. Slovakia. Maybe it's to do with new grounds being built. I was under the impression that if we revert to terracing then we'd have to repay the football trust money?
Anon at 16:01:47 Monday October 27 2003
Watford's 3-1 win at the National Hockey Stadium on Saturday was designated all-ticket to prevent possible flashpoints between fans from two clubs who are now local rivals.
But Peter Winkelman had to personally eject a dozen Hornets supporters caught celebrating Watford's opener in the home end, and he admitted the local stewards are not yet up to scratch.
"There will be an investigation into what happened," said Winkelman.
"We think they were Milton Keynes Watford fans. So many people have moved here from different places and they all have their own home-town teams.
"They are normally Wimbledon fans because they are watching football in Milton Keynes but because it was Watford they became Watford fans".
- I think that just about sums them up!
Ginger Harris at 15:49:18 Monday October 27 2003
King of the Hill is very funny isn't it..........I like the barbecues, they make my mouth water
Hotel Ender at 14:26:41 Monday October 27 2003
Matt - the beeb have announced Accrington Stanley v Huddersfield, but I don't know if Sky have a cup game too - if they do I reckon it'll be Bradford PA v Bristol City
Matt Scott at 14:05:30 Monday October 27 2003
What chances of us vs Plymouth being the live FA Cup game.........looks on paper the biggest tie......likely???
LH at 13:09:15 Monday October 27 2003
I find that Johnny Walkers a very short term amswer !(needed some last Tuesday)
Sealo at 13:04:02 Monday October 27 2003
Is Walker a long term answer?
Anon at 13:02:57 Monday October 27 2003
Interesting thoughts on terracing and a new Hotel end - a decent sized covered terrace would certainly add to the atmosphere and go towards making Sixfields an intimidating place for visiting clubs. A well designed and constructed terrace need not be the throw back to the bad old days that some associate terracing with and as others are saying its something that should be given serious consideration.
LH at 11:41:35 Monday October 27 2003
If there's no takers for the millstone that is RDFC we can always lend you our buckets .
Sean at 11:38:02 Monday October 27 2003
Goodbye and best wishes for your retirement Max. Your ambition was to destroy the Cobblers but you failed.
Witham Cobbler at 11:27:01 Monday October 27 2003
Rubbish and Direones are up for sale! In a statement issued this morning from Nene Park, Max Griggs is quoted as saying that he's "taken the club as far as he can"... ...and that he's "happy to pass the football club to the right person for nothing".
Wilf at 11:15:22 Monday October 27 2003
Yeovil have a new stadium and terraces behind each goal. The benefits of returning to terracing behind the home goal are enormous and should be given due consideration. Let's not get caught up in Euro red tape and babble speak. Let the campaign begin!!
Eaststander at 11:12:14 Monday October 27 2003
Completely agree with comments from A Childs View and welcomed comments about crowd from TCMP. What intrigues me is that having been to nearly all the away games why were we so different? I don't think it was totally in response to the players showing some determination we just started like it! Credit to those few at the back who lead the singing if you weren't paid DC could do worse than put you on the payroll. Pity about the substitutions CC I could see where you were coming from but at the moment our defence is not strong enough to play these tactics -wait until Reid is back.
MK Cobbler at 09:37:29 Monday October 27 2003
I would be in favour of terraces behind the goals until such time as we reach Div 1 where I believe all seater stadia are compulsory. A couple of years ago wasn't the Labour Sports Minister pushing for a new generation of safety terracing?
LH at 09:01:46 Monday October 27 2003
Also can we have a couple of Samoans in midfield please ?
LH at 09:01:13 Monday October 27 2003
Glad my comment about a New Hotel End has prompted some positive comments.TCMP if the changing of ends & terracing could be included in any new Stadium development I'm sure this would act as a focal point of support & really help generate atmosphere.
Pihuan at 06:50:42 Monday October 27 2003
Return of the Hotel End! That would be great. I agree with much of what is said below about standing. Now i just sit with one old friend and perhaps see a few othe people on the way in. At the county ground there would be a group of up to 30 in the same place every match, lots of banter and laughing. I miss it. Didn't see or even hear the Orient match as the egg chasers got priority on Radio northampton, but everyone seems much more upbeat. So perhaps we're approaching the fabled corner around which is a bright tomorrow. hope so as I'm really fed up with watching crap football, we've seen too much in the last 3 years.
TCMP at 23:11:41 Sunday October 26 2003
Glad the talk ofa new Hotel End has cheered the soul, don't know what we can do about terracing though, although personally I would love to see it return, so who knows? MK Cobbler, we wan't to assist CC and JD in any way we can, but they also understand the dangers of carrying too big a squad, Burgess left the club last week and Walker came in on loan so, as you can see the revolving door has to turn both ways. The coming weeks may well bring us all some cheering news and the effort and hard work is there to make it happen so with the backing of the fans we can really lift the season.
badger at 22:05:39 Sunday October 26 2003
Anon.....Were you trying to post at the same time ???? Were you logged on at the time....it would be interesting to know.
badger at 22:00:03 Sunday October 26 2003
Ray .... How can that happen????? I put my name in the box but it posted as ANON.....must be a glich in the system????
badger at 21:54:04 Sunday October 26 2003
That last post Anon... was posted by me Badger..... I don't know how Anon's name got where it is .....oup's
Anon at 21:50:57 Sunday October 26 2003
My wife first introduced me to the Cobblers back in the sixty’s but alas she won’t come anymore.....The last time I took her up to Sixfields it was raining and we had to queue up at the porto’s and then again to get in....by that time we were soaking wet....and the gate that night was only about 4000.....and that’s progress ?????
When we sat down we found that we where sitting next to a foul mouth git who didn’t stop all night......and whenever the ball was anywhere near the goal everyone in front of us stood up so we couldn’t see a thing......at least if we were standing you can manoeuvre around so you still can see the game.....What a moaning git I am.........BRING BACK STANDING & PAY AT THE GATE
NT FCOK at 21:20:55 Sunday October 26 2003
I big hint if there ever was one TC, if all of this is true on the back of a good weekend then things certainly are on the up .UTC
badger at 21:19:52 Sunday October 26 2003
That’s why I like going to the away games.... mostly all standing or you can sit where you like..... meet your friends inside.... move if you do not like who is sitting or standing next to you....go to the toilet or get something to eat without disturbing others……at Sixfields I always try to get a seat on the back row so I can stand up...... but you still get the people that go to the toilet every 5 minutes so up down up down......please give us back our freedom…
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:55:28 Sunday October 26 2003
Thats also why it is better going to away matches, terraces and even if there are seats its invariably free seating. Lets have similar in the new Hotel. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:50:30 Sunday October 26 2003
A terrace would tempt me from the West Stand and re-live my youth. I still know all of the songs. Go for it TCMP... and make a lot of us old uns 'appy. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
MK Cobbler at 20:37:30 Sunday October 26 2003
TCMP, any likelihood of CC bringing in new players before our next home game? Heartened though I am by yesterday it was a case of 2 points lost and, like many posters, I agree we do appear to be deficient in midfield in particular.
MK Cobbler at 20:21:04 Sunday October 26 2003
Yes, let's please be rid of these unsightly portacabins, an appalling reminder of the inadequacies of our stadium. Good luck TCMP with the negotiations, so much depends on a successful outcome and if you are right the future is bright indeed.
Badger at 20:04:52 Sunday October 26 2003
TCMP..... that sounds like we will be building a Hotel at the away end......I hope so......all we would want then is to take all the seats out and have standing, singing, and atmosphere at the NEW HOTEL END..... I'm for all of that....and also please.... pay at the gate instead of them porto boxes....just think of all the singers behind the goal again and not all doted around the ground....
Marvo at 19:57:38 Sunday October 26 2003
While promotion was first and foremost in everybodys mind when the season started, I've got to say that as a consolation prize, a return to our spiritual home "The Hotel End" would be just great! If you really want to make me happy TCMP, tell me there will be a terrace?
TCMP at 19:36:49 Sunday October 26 2003
ajp, Discussions and negotiations are ongoing regarding the stadium, I know that is an easy answer to give but it is the truth, there has not been a week in the last 6 when we have not progressed a little further towards our goal but we are nearly there now and as soon as we have an announcement I will be available for questions. Also don't give in on a possible return to the Hotel End for home fans, I am sure we can come up with a solution for moving the away support. At the County ground the Hotel End was to the right of the tunnel and if all goes well it will return to the same place.
lammyrider at 17:17:48 Sunday October 26 2003
tag is a real name then??? been on here a long time now, just fancied a name change. you get so protective of rsmw anyone would think your the same person. glad to hear we played better and that the support was vocal we really need that at home the silence just gets everyone nervous.hope josh takes confidence from that, he can be class seems to lack belief
Marvo at 16:41:00 Sunday October 26 2003
Sorry Deepcut, that's one that needs directing at the Marquiss.
LH at 16:15:09 Sunday October 26 2003
Saw brief highlights on TV this afernonn. Nice football for our goal
and smart finish from Low ,didnt panic when in a good position . Their
goal came of the the top of Sammo's head hence no offside , CC on the radio said he was pushed ,hence the cock up but clip to brief to tell.
Well done 500 + away support who travelled down when we have been in
such poor form , loyal supporters indead !
MK Cobbler at 15:53:49 Sunday October 26 2003
I wasn't at Orient but an improved performance from all accounts. Southend becomes a big match if we are not to remain with the strugglers. Hard to write that after all the pre-season hype but it has to be said Wilko got it wrong. Not enough guile in the team and too many ready to throw in the towel when the going gets tough. Any hopes of the play-offs appear remote at this time but you never know.
NT FCOK at 15:26:31 Sunday October 26 2003
I see people are still going at slim for his views on MW a bit old hat that now, I was rather concerned that after the midweek results that peoples attention was going to point at the players instead of the manager which would be a shame as they are yet to produce the form that they will surely bring, this will all take time,although things seem to be settling down now and with the vocal support at the orient its starting to look very positive on and off the pitch, But I still firmly believe we need stability at the back which went with the departure of welch and has not returned since its no coincidence that the back has struggled and conceded freely since his parting, and also not just a new face up front but one with the gabbiadini style and experience to help the young lads through, Wilko got some good players but he did not get enough depth especially in age and wisdom, you cant bring in what is seen as the cream of the young players in the lower leagues and expect top results this is going to be a long and hard season I think...But an interesting one.
Deepcut Cobbler at 14:58:54 Sunday October 26 2003
Marvo, I can get onto The Hotel End because I am immediately logged in but I just tried to amend my profile and was told that my password was incorrect/invalid... COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
ajp at 12:41:56 Sunday October 26 2003
anyone heard anything bout the stadium yet, TCMP?
A Childs View at 10:53:17 Sunday October 26 2003
Forgot to mention, well done to all those fans who supported the team yesterday - you were absolutely brilliant. I especially liked the immediate singing-up as soon as Orient equalised, top stuff and it will only help the team progress. Our job is well and truly all about keeping the faith and supporting with passion, it is infectious and needs to stay there as we look to build ourselves back up.
A Childs View at 10:49:16 Sunday October 26 2003
Evidence of progress yesterday with a few more elements to the team coming into place - best performance under CC so far. We were unlucky not to win and I'd like to see their goal again - they seemed to have 3 strikers in our 6 yard box all of a sudden - did we balls up an offside trap or did the linesman fail to give it? Risky tactics if we did try offside at that stage of the game. Smith and Low were both excellent yesterday - Smith's move to set up Josh was sublime, a control, turn and burst of pace all in one movement - brilliant. We are very lucky to have him - undoubted class and as the team progresses we'll get even more from him. Well done Josh Low, great strides made yesterday, more of the same please. Walker did ok as well - you could tell the difference as the ball did stick up front a little more, not enough yet, but more of platform being provided I'd say. The only criticism I'd have of yesterday is the substitutions, they weakened us and nothing stuck up front with Dudders and Richards - these two don't give enough together, in truth they are nearly men I fear. This put the pressure back on and ultimately cost a couple of points. There may well have been injuries though so I maybe this is unfair. The Chambers substitution did work and it definitel stopped their attacks down our right. Reeves did well in an unfamilar position also and we got a little more from Hargreaves playing in the middle. No Asamoah on the bench - Colin, look at a load of videos from last season and before and see what you've got in Del Boy - he is DEFINITELY worth a place in a our 16 every time. He just needs a chance! It's quite good news that we've a few away games coming up, struggling teams can relax a little more away from home and this may be a blessing in disguise. Glad I went yesterday, shame about the result - 5 from 12 points under CC would be fair reflection I think, pity it's only 3.
Old Stratford Cobbler at 22:48:12 Saturday October 25 2003
Bored at 20:27:29 Obviously you're not as passionate about the Cobblers as me. Maybe if you were, you wouldn't be so bored.
Hotel Ender at 21:18:50 Saturday October 25 2003
Marvo - I was able to get onto thehotelend this a.m. but this afternoon I kept getting the "cannot find server" message. But I've managed to get on now.
Tag at 21:03:01 Saturday October 25 2003
Great performance, bad result. Still 19th. There is little to say about the match except three points out of 12. One good performance does not make a summer, lets face it. For the benefit of the likes of lammyrider, who should use a real name, please, if you are going to have a go at someone, that does not mean I am critical of the present management and if you bothered to use any brain cells u and reading ability you would know that slimmartin hasnt either. Ray, can we do something about idiots like this.
Marvo at 20:47:45 Saturday October 25 2003
FAO: Hotel Ender. I have never had any problem getting on to the hotelender site but understand others have. My advice is, when you do get on next time, change your preferences to "always logged on". That should ensure you never have any trouble again.
TCMP at 20:44:19 Saturday October 25 2003
Just a quick log on to pay tribute to all those who travelled to Orient this afternoon, yes we were robbed of the 3 points, and I thought the last minute goal was offside. But the 529 (from the Orient computer) in the away end were terrific, they sung from the first whistle to the last and got right behind the team, and boosted the confidence of the players and I said to David in the first half before we scored that "If you think this is good wait until we win a few!!" I thought overall we looked better organised today and won far more ball, we still look to panic a bit on the ball when teams play directly at us but it is clear that there was progress made today and we are at last heading in the right direction. There were some more composed performances out there this afternoon and I was pleased with Josh's contribution, not just the goal but the way he took players on. But as I said above the man of the match today by far was the away support, it made a big difference and long may it continue and grow.
Bored at 20:27:29 Saturday October 25 2003
Think you are nitpickin', Old Stratford. More important issues in the world than whether the Beeb forgot to add "town" to Northampton, surely?
paddington at 18:34:09 Saturday October 25 2003
A much improved performance from the Cobbs this afternoon against a pretty poor Orient side. We should have won this but the Cobbs fans seemed happy to see some real life in the team and some decent shots on goal. Throw in a couple of possible (but unawarded) penalties for handball and we could have had a great afternoon. The players showed more commitment and generally seemed better organised. Josh was on better form and showed a bit of passion (but got booked for it). . Smith played some very classy football. He often goes for the less than 50/50 balls and wins them -something some of the other players could learn from. He came up with a very neat move to cross to Low who very calmly slotted home. Trollope and Hargreaves battled away as usual. Lee Harper looked assured in front of goal, producing some good saves and clearances. There were several near-suicidal backpasses - we need to kick this habit. Reeves had a good game and I was disappointed to see him taken off; after that we started to play more defensively and the inevitable happened. It was difficult to see exactly what happened but it looked like the Cobblers defence stopped dead in its tracks because they thought Alexander (?) was offside. Unfortunately the ref and linesman thought otherwise. Good to see Calderwood out in the technical area for most of the game, frequently barking orders to the team. Also good to see Deehan join him occasionally to offer a few words of advice in his ear. We're not in the land of milk and honey yet. Still a tendency to hoof and hope. And we still go all of a dither when we have a throw-in and we don't win many headers. We could also use someone who can perform long throw-ins a la Hunter. But it looks like the management team are beginning to forge a viable team from the resources they have. I am cautiously optimistic, as they say.
Hotel Ender at 17:57:09 Saturday October 25 2003
anyone else having difficulty accessing the hotelend website?
lammyrider at 17:54:19 Saturday October 25 2003
good to see rsmw has got a new subject to go on about constantly (at length),i really wish they had let him choose the manager then at least he'd bloody shut up about it. so everyone got carried away with the hype pre season and pre managment appointment,hype that we created to some degree.good luck to j.d and c.c can we PLEASE stop whineing and start encouraging because even though the team have not played well we have been shocking!!!!!!
Hotel Ender at 17:48:52 Saturday October 25 2003
It would be Northampton "Town" on the draw because it was the FA doing the draw - you can bet if the beeb or Sky had been doing the draw it would have been plain old Northampton.
Old Stratford Cobbler at 17:36:10 Saturday October 25 2003
So on the F.A.Cup First Round draw on BBC TV we miraculously become "Northampton Town", yet on the Classified check we are just plain old "Northampton". Isn't nature wonderful! This is the reason for our current plight! Get onto the BBC and complain. Only glad we are not away to Plymouth, at least we've got half a chance at home. And wouldn't it have been nice to go to Grantham, Histon or Boreham Wood? Looks like Swansea City have an easy tie. Comments please on the "Town" issue. It really does pish me off!
Hotel Ender at 17:22:31 Saturday October 25 2003
so Plymouth in the cup - at least it's a home game!!!
Anon at 16:57:25 Saturday October 25 2003
Four games without a win...the clock is ticking again.
Ralph at 16:17:58 Saturday October 25 2003
Well apparently it is going to come from Josh Low after excellent work from Martin Smith!
Anon at 16:16:37 Saturday October 25 2003
Josh Low scores!!
Santa at 16:10:13 Saturday October 25 2003
Xmas has come early. . . .Rushden losing AGAIN....HO HO HO HO HO
Ralph at 16:04:27 Saturday October 25 2003
My man at the match tells me that we are playing with more commitment but cannot see where a goal is going to come from.
Greg at 15:40:37 Saturday October 25 2003
sounds like we are playing with a bit more confidance,must be because we are not playing in front of the moaning home fans.patience and support is needed
nsb at 14:10:04 Saturday October 25 2003
eastander, we had a chance to bring back lil savage in the summer but wilko decided that he didnt want to bring in players with any experience............
Ralph at 14:07:20 Saturday October 25 2003
Dave Savage? Surely it is time to move on? He never cut it here, only performing when he felt like it. He went to Oxford and is now at Bristol Rovers, if he had anything about him he would be playing at a higher level. Calderwood and Deehan must know plenty of quality players that can do a job for us, I'd sooner back their judgement and see some fresh faces than hark back to Hunt/Hunter/Savage and the like.
Eastander at 13:48:31 Saturday October 25 2003
Ok I generally agree with the fact that the midfield is probably the cause of our poor season so far, what we do need is a midfielder who can put his foot on the ball, who has experience in the lower leagues, who can score a few goals too - whatever happenned to Dave Savage
Ralph at 12:53:13 Saturday October 25 2003
You were right too Marvo, that wasn't me either!
Crick at 11:49:56 Saturday October 25 2003
The Cobblers problem is simple .... 4 Managers and the same Midfield
Never have i woken up the day after a match ans still be p*ssed off at the performance. Any Idea when Clark, Westwood, Gill and Youngs will be back 6-8 weeks they were out for and that was 7 weeks ago !
Witht hose 4 back I feel we will start pciking up points, but with the team we have now it could be a very cold winter
lotsofmenteam at 09:38:11 Saturday October 25 2003
Looking on the bright side, Luke Chambers has put pen to paper and signed his allegiance to the club. So all we need is another ten players to show the same commitment and we have a team, who want to win. Come on Cobblers, good luck against Orient. Nice ground but lets spoil it for their fans.
Pihuan at 06:23:44 Saturday October 25 2003
Not surprised Burgess has gone. He looked really promising to begin with, but then seemed to succumb to the general malaise and looked distinctly ordinary. He is a similar player to harsley, who is much more likely to score. As he was on a short contract it was almost inevitable that a new manager would let him go. good luck Oli. Pretty depressed about today, but hope CC and JD have worked some magic and that the players are actually up for it. Up the Cobblers!
Marvo at 22:39:10 Friday October 24 2003
OK, I'll let it go. It would be nice though if the threat of exposure was there for all that break the rules. Wont be there tomorrow, work commitments are afraid. I remember a few years back when Orient were on a terrible run and ended it at Sixfields, their first away win for nearly two seasons. Although our run is nowhere near as bad, it would be nice to think that it is the Londerners chance to return the favour. Up the Cobblers!
Tag at 22:15:03 Friday October 24 2003
Oh gawd, just managed to get access at long last and see that while we have got rid of the pictures there are still the slimmartin baiting idiots and the stupid nonsense that Marvo has to put up with. give it a rest and use ur proper login names if you dare and actually enliven the debate rather than make petty childish. I thought this new system was going to get rid of you guys but clearly not. Its no wonder there is such a mood of depression around Sixfields everyone is having a go at everyone else. Come on Ray, police this properly or open the site up to everyone so that at least if there is the crap we can ignore it.
Badger at 21:42:37 Friday October 24 2003
Marvo...... I don't think Ray can tell who posted it.... I think he can only tell who was logged on at the time...... I could be wrong....but remember Ray can't be on his board all of the time....so he might not have seen it yet....you was unlucky when you posted your armless pic a few days ago....Ray was on at the time...On the Hotelend board...the board knows who is logged on and who is posting what.... The board also knows the address number of you and your ip so it can trace anybody to their ip account. The Hotelend board was written with this in mind but the Cobblers Comments board was not.... and remember it was written a good few years ago... I still prefer this board and it is lots better now the password system is in action...
Abington at 21:01:00 Friday October 24 2003
RSMW - "bait" and "rise" ??
Marvo at 20:55:20 Friday October 24 2003
So, 24 hours on and no news on the imposter. Does this mean Ray you can't act, or wont act? If the only way you knew it was me that posted the "Welcome back" picture was because I put my name to it, it makes a mockery of the password system. What if I post a picture under someone else's name, would they be banned? But on the other hand if you do know who posts what, why are you protecting the imposter? I'm sure a lot of people would like to know who he is. Equally I'm sure a lot of people would like to know why you choose to protect him!
badger at 20:06:28 Friday October 24 2003
Can't go to the game tomorrow.....I only hope our midfield plays out of there socks.... but ....I can't see it happening..... so the only chance of us getting anything out of the game.....is....if their midfield as a bad day....I have never been so down in all my years watching the cobblers.... I just can’t see where the good ball is coming from for our poor old forwards to score.... Our only hope is if... one of their defenders makes a mistake.... but that never seems to happen..... AWAY THE LADS
LH at 17:53:41 Friday October 24 2003
Just a thought but when/if Big dave redevelops Sixfield's and a Hotel is built can we have a Hotel End again ? Trouble is because of the location (behind South Stand)it would probably house the away support , shame really .
MKMal at 16:00:25 Friday October 24 2003
F.A.O Oregon Cobbler. Its not Calderwood that has so called dished up such a lack of passion, its the players. The first two games I bet he didn't even know all their names. Give the guy a break and get behind the team and club for heavens sake!
MK Cobbler at 15:42:57 Friday October 24 2003
I find it difficult to believe that "supporters" such as Oregon Cobbler are already having a go at Calderwood. I despair at this negative apprach. Give the bloke a chance, he has hardly had time to get his feet under the table.
Oregon Cobbler at 15:35:13 Friday October 24 2003
Since when has a good reference been the key factor in appointing a team manager? Codswallop. If we were going to go for the inexperienced and unproven, then why not someone like Tony Adams who absolutely hated losing and was a great leader on the pitch? I don't think you'd see a team he'd put out play with such lack of passion as has apparently been dished up by Calderwood. When did you ever see Calderwood get passionate on the pitch? He may have inherited the squad, but motivation is something under his control. Support him while he's here, but don't be surprised when he gets the boot.
ajp at 15:26:57 Friday October 24 2003
room for someone else to come in then!!
mjharrison56 at 15:13:19 Friday October 24 2003
Oli Burgess's contract hasn't been renewed and he has left the club.
anon at 15:04:49 Friday October 24 2003
when will you stop blaming the managers? 3 in a very short time, are they all wrong??? And Hill, is he still on paid 'gardening leave' if so how long for?
Dyl at 15:03:26 Friday October 24 2003
Great, we have a crap midfield and yet we let Burgess go. He's been one of the best of a bad bunch and I would have liked to have seen him stay.
Sean at 14:38:31 Friday October 24 2003
The answer - Billy Best in the 1970s
CIJ - "When was the last time you saw one of our midfield battle someone off the ball, pass the ball to feet of another midfielder who then takes a player on before threading a defence splitting pass through to our striker!!?? Never happens!!!"
LH at 13:19:25 Friday October 24 2003
CC in the Chronic admits midfield & general service to forwards poor,
so he can see what we all can. Chron reckon Reeves in for Harsley , he played well for stiffs appparently. Reid still injured , Walker starting alongside Smith up front. Dudfield must consider himself unlucky not to get a start & Low lucky to start.
Macc Cobblers at 11:56:00 Friday October 24 2003
I think that we will see Harper return, and also that we will see Chambers coming back into the team, meaning Wilmott will go into the centre with Sammo, with Doig going to left back.
Carruthers will revert back to left midfield - and the centre two anybody's guess, but I think that he will go with Trollope and Burgess. Finally, Low will stay on the right and Walker and Smith will be the front two.
CIJ at 11:46:10 Friday October 24 2003
It's obvious that there is something wrong with the midfield. We can all see it as fans so why can't the management team!!?? Strikers thrive on decent service and if you look at the recent form of our strikers then it is possible to see that there is no service. Gabbi - 30+ goals for two seasons before joining us, didn't really set the world alight while at us. Parkin - Couldn't hit the back of the net with us, now banging them in for fun at Swindon. Smith - Prolific at Huddersfield, now just looks frustrated. Howard - Described as a donkey while at us for his lack of goals, now we want him back as he's scoring every week for Luton!! Is it that all these strikers just get stage fright when they join us!!?? Somehow I don't think so. Im sure that our coaching staff aren't so bad that they teach decent strikers how to turn rubbish!!! Therefore that only leaves one possibility and it's that out midfielfd must be so rubbish at creating chances for them!! When was the last time you saw one of our midfield battle someone off the ball, pass the ball to feet of another midfielder who then takes a player on before threading a defence splitting pass through to our striker!!?? Never happens!!!
United Front at 11:30:01 Friday October 24 2003
I would be amazed if we go into the match tomorrow without any new signings. The alternatives available to CC don't exactly set the pulse racing - Dudfield, Burgess (whose reputation seems to have gone up solely due to the fact that he hasn't played in the last 2 matches), Reeves etc. None of these players have the qualities we need at present ie: a creative spark or a physical presence, and in my opinion would be just a case of like for like.
therealslimmartinw at 10:52:35 Friday October 24 2003
Abingdon, the words "up" and "grow" spring to mind.
therealslimmartinw at 10:51:59 Friday October 24 2003
Firstly AFTC, It's not a rant it's a simple question. You are reading things that are not there. Lutterworth, my opposition to Wilko's appointment was not a hindsight thing, as you probably know being a regular here, if that is what you imply. His record spoke for itself and it was not rocket science, in my view, to work out that it would be a mistake. CC on the other hand, has potential although inexperienced, alongside an experienced campaigner. Questions are questions, not implied criticism. But then again, as I have said if anybody or anything cannot be self critical there is no progress. To me that's common sense. It certainly does not imply that I don't support the side if that is the implication. I certainly would not be one of those yelling at players if they don't perform when I am at matches. I actually think there should be an unwritten rule at Sixfields that you never get on a player's back ever and that people sitting near someone who does slag off a player, should tell them that they won't tolerate it in a light hearted way. Simon, I don't honestly see why are you are so bothered by a simple question from a simple fan no better than your good self. Indeed I wouldn't mind betting you have supported the club longer than me. Not that that at all should matter. I am inquisitive of nature, am like that through my job, and would like to know what the thought processes were in appointing Deehan ahead of Ward. And anybody who thinks i hedge my bets clearly hasnt read any of my posts. But then why would you. Finally, i should say many thought in hindsight after Wilko was dismissed that we should go through an interviewing process and pick the best people for the job based on the budget we have. Indeed TCMP picked up on that after it all went wrong with another manager. All I am doing is asking the question in the hope of knowing that process was achieved. It's an obvious question to me and I feel a bit daft now that I am spending so much time defending it. If I have offended anyone, apologies, it's just my style
Abington at 10:24:06 Friday October 24 2003
RSMW - the words "contemplating" and "navel" keep springing to mind.
Simon at 00:19:18 Friday October 24 2003
Maybe "upsetting the applecart" was too strong but what I fail to see in your questioning on the lack of Ward being given the job is why you care so much? For whatever reason Ward didn't get it and Calderwood/Deehan did. Move on to the teams performance because that's the ONLY issue worth talking about now. My choice for the job was Ward but Calderwood's in the hotseat and I'll support him. I always get the feeling trsmw that you like to hedge your bets.
Glenn at 23:32:35 Thursday October 23 2003
I'm sensing some negativity here. We've moved from needing one creative midfielder to changing the whole team (as none of them try), sacking an untried manager and getting rid of the directors as they're not qualified to pick a manager. In two days. Stick with and support CC - he inherited the team, and he's every right to have a look before making changes. If things don't improve and he doesn't make the changes then we can ask why - but not after only 3 games.
Lutterworth at 22:59:48 Thursday October 23 2003
Slim - Surely you can see that the Wilkinson appointment was made with the best intentions in an attempt to bring stability to the club after the sackings of Broadhurst and Fenwick. The board obviously felt Wilko knew the players and the club and felt they as a board could work with him and Hill to build a team. Ok in hindsight it was a mistake and Wilkos past record should have been considered in more detail, but the board showed that they have learnt from that mistake by appointing a management team (within budget) who have good references from professionals in the game, they have ambitions, some experience at this level, coaching qualifications, they know each other well and have already brought a more professional approach to the club, plenty of reasons to make them the right choice in my book. Sure Ward may have been another option - he was even my first choice - but the fact is he was not offered the job, maybe because he wanted too much money, maybe because he didnt impress the Cardozas, it doesnt really matter now because whatever the reason the simple fact is that Calderwood & Deehan seemed the best choice to those who were making the decision. Of course you have every right to ask questions of our supporters rep, after all that is what he is there for, but equally the board also have the right to ask supporters to show some patience, support their decisions and support the management team and the players. Which I am sure you are doing.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 22:46:08 Thursday October 23 2003
Sorry RSMW, but you look like you are hedging your bets with the 'Ward rant' He is not our manager, for better or worse, the CC/JD dream team is. I've been looking long and hard at our performances over the past few years, players have come and gone, coaches and managers too, board members and chairmen have graced the revolving door. The only constant that I can see is 'us' - the fans that turn up come fair weather or foul. The ones that boo the team off at half time, the ones that moan mercilessly at a missed pass, the ones that don't cheer the team as the names are read out before kick off. Lets look at ourselves and consider a bit of vocal support rather than smug content that "we've paid our money, what more do they want out of us?" Now is thwe time the club needs us to get right behind them.
therealslimmartinw at 22:12:36 Thursday October 23 2003
Simon, I hardly think a question by one fan (myself) about John Ward rocks the apple cart. Any one or anything that is not open to public scrutiny, does not achieve any kind of progress. The very fact that there was no questioning of the Wilko decision above puts us in our current plight. If you have no critical faculty, you never truly know when something is right or wrong and you never progress. You just think everything is fine until you fall flat on your face. Fact of life. Goes for people as well as clubs. The fact is that bad decisions were made over the appointment about previous managers, and you may not agree, but I as an individual fan would like to know what the decision was based on. Simple. And if we are an open club it shouldn't be a problem, should it.
Sealo at 21:50:45 Thursday October 23 2003
People who berate the players especially the midfield and then also make a call for bringing back Broadhurst should remember that Harsley, Trollope and Hargreaves was Broadhurst's midfield..........so it's not that simple
Abington at 21:32:49 Thursday October 23 2003
Anon @ 10.24.02. It's irony Anon, ask Drilling
Marvo at 20:25:35 Thursday October 23 2003
And, I bet that posting soon after at 18.50 purporting to be from Ralph was the imposter as well. It would serve the person right if you were to name him on here.
Marvo at 20:23:51 Thursday October 23 2003
Well Ray, now is the chance for you to be as good as your word. The contributer using my name at 18.44 was not me. You need to stamp this out immediately. Check who made that posting, then either ask for an explanation or simply ban him. Don't let this forum get ruined by imposters again. You were quick enough to act when I posted a harmless picture, I'd like to see just as quick a response now to what I see as an even big a threat to this board!
Ralph at 18:50:34 Thursday October 23 2003
Now have nothing but contempt for CC, arrogant self centred ex footbaaling legend gone wrong. Need to get rid asap!
Marvo at 18:44:33 Thursday October 23 2003
Chrsitmas cannot come to soon as its the time we will know that we have failed for another season and I will have to suffer the indignation of supporting a bunhc of ignoramouses for a further year. May look to change my allegance if it happens for another year!
Treenie at 18:15:35 Thursday October 23 2003
63 Shopping Days to Christmas - Maybe Santa will bring us a new midfield who are actually going to try to play football rather than run around like headless chickens. I'm not usually one for criticising but after Tuesday night I was embarrassed. Come on boys make an effort.
Cordwainer at 18:12:30 Thursday October 23 2003
Re NTFC Fan's comments about not having a fan base. I totally disagree, just remember those years when we always finished in the bottom few of Div 3 or 4. There were still a couple of thousand turning up at the dilapidated County Ground. Would the newly acquired R&D "fans" do that? I don't think so. I think we would be similar to Shrewsbury, Exeter or Chester and the loyal few would turn up and if we were winning that would increase. BUT its not going to happen anyway so don't worry about it.
LH at 17:26:34 Thursday October 23 2003
Ahhh Ha . It all makes sense now . Wondered what Oregon Cobbler was on about !
Marvo at 16:52:53 Thursday October 23 2003
I've got nothing to say, I'm really depressed and now the weather's turned, I can't even get out for a game of golf to cheer myself up. Roll on Christmas!
Doh at 16:11:13 Thursday October 23 2003
Thats Pleat not Platt
LH at 15:47:41 Thursday October 23 2003
If David Platt's an abject failure how come he has been Director of football at Spurs for God knows how long and has now won three out of the last four as caretaker mangager.
Oregon Cobbler at 15:38:26 Thursday October 23 2003
David Platt was also described as one of the best young coaches in the game and he is nothing short of an abject failure. Seems as though talking a good story is the ticket to a management role.
Richard at 13:55:27 Thursday October 23 2003
Lutterworth at 13:12:48 Thursday October 23 2003, I think this would be a great idea, all you need is 20 or 30 people all sitting in the same area, starting song and others will join in. So wha about it, why not give it a go??? How about West Stand south end, ry to drown out the moaning b@@@@@ds.
Shhhh.... at 13:49:22 Thursday October 23 2003
A couple of years ago after Canvey knocked us out of the FA cup a "silent protest" was discussed to demonstrate at the lack of effort from players - the idea seemed to filter through to the club and they started playing again and avoided relegation. Don't think it would work this time though, Sixfields is such a quiet place these days a silent protest by fans would not be noticed!
Ralph at 13:48:30 Thursday October 23 2003
Initially I was dissapointed with the appointment of CC and JD, given the names that were being bandied around. Having heard CC speak at the Trust meeting I left full of enthusiasm, he spoke in exactly the right terms and left me in no doubt of his commitment and understanding of what is required to be successful at this level. I am still enthusiastic about the future and think that CC's appointment will bring us success. Mind you I thought that Foley and Kiernan were the dream ticket!
Wilf at 13:14:46 Thursday October 23 2003
I think you'll find that what David cardoza did was ask the opinion of respected people within the game as to who was the best up and coming young coach and the name that kept being mentioned was Colin Calderwood. Then we approached him through one of our directors who has contacts at Spurs.
Lutterworth at 13:12:48 Thursday October 23 2003
Heres an idea for the Swansea game, people who use this site aren't fairweather fans, we are all dedicated supporters, so why don't we all try to sit in the same part of the ground and make a pact that we will sing loud and proud and give nothing but positive encouragement for 90 minutes to all the players no matter what the scoreline, no matter how good bad or indiffrent the performance of the team or individuals. Isn't it time we made a conserted effort to show how much we care, show that we are behind the club, drown out the moaners and whingers and help to build up the players confidence?
NTFC fan at 12:09:32 Thursday October 23 2003
What I don't understand is - who at the club is qualified to 'interview' and appoint new managers? The only qualities a new manager can put on his CV is what he has achieved - surely he can't just talk his way through an interview? So I think CC is a doubtful arrangement. But anyway - it is true that we have what we have so lets get on with it. But for the club to have spent all that money, and lived through a summer of hype, and seen massive personnel changes - and yet we seem to have gone downhill from last seasons debacle? I just don't get how that is possible (especially with ex-Cobblers scoring left right and centre at all sorts of clubs), and I think we are going to be lucky this season that Southend and Carlisle are setting even lower standards than we are to reserve the relegation places - if we go down to the conference in any of the next five seasons I think its the end of the club because we DO NOT have the loyal fan base that a team such as Chester, Doncaster et al has no matter how much we think we do. You can all say I am negative and my comments are not needed but that is the case. Lets hope we get a cup run.
Simon at 11:06:24 Thursday October 23 2003
Fat Jan must've laughed all the way to the pie shop.
Simon at 11:01:35 Thursday October 23 2003
Must say that I agree with all of Abington's points in his last post. Please trsmw, stop going on about Ward. He didn't get the job and that's all we need to know. The applecart is unsteady as it is but you always keep on rocking it. Also the point made by Abington about the way the ball's "played" out of defence was spot on. I was sat in row U of the West Stand Upper (north end) and a bloke behind me in row V or W made exactly the same point. Was that you Abington? That whole Carruthers, Doig, Sammo, Trollope, Doig, Carruthers pass routine out of our half happens time and again and always the end result is the ball ends up on the head of opposition's centre half/full back. The lack of ideas that the team have is frightening.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:54:30 Thursday October 23 2003
Not much to debate really anon - apart from our level of crapness. Agree entirely with lotsofmenteam, for the 4th time this year we have seen NO reaction from the players as a result of working for a new manager. They dont care, and if they did they would not be performing like they are. The most expensive collection of players in the division and they are currently 19th out of 23. No excuses. Particularly when they actually won 3 of their first 5 (4 from 6 if you include Norwich) matches! The time to gell argument is no longer valid. I'm going on Saturday, however if performances do not rapidly improve it will be my last away game this year. And why does CC keep going on about the players being scared? Confidence may well be down but I see no reason why the players are playing in fear. The message that a winning teams equals a big happy crowd should be drummed into them until they comprehend it! People will accept mistakes but they will not accept the lack of passion, effort and determination that has been so evident for some time now.
Richard at 10:51:59 Thursday October 23 2003
Well I kept to my word and didn't go to the game on Tuesday, and i thought it would be harder than it was to miss my first home game in about 3 years...but you know what seeing the result and the comments of others I think I will be missing a few more between now and the end of the season. There is a long gap between Tuesday and our next home game, and if we dont start playing some football with the ball on the floor then I doubt I will come to many more games this season. £16 to watch this style of longball football, with no fight or passion from the players is not what I am going to spend my money on. It is down to Calderwood, Deehan and the players to start winning back the fans otherwise Rushden really will be the no1 team in Northants!!! and you know what, it in no more than Cobblers deserve over the last few years. Why did we ever sack Kevan Broadhurst!!! He was the best manager we have had here since Atkins and was doing a god job, but the board thought the grass was greener, and you know what it really wasnt. I just hope if this all turns sour that the board have the guts to admit they were wrong and bring back Kevan Broadhurst.
Anon at 10:24:02 Thursday October 23 2003
See the usual level of intellectual debate is creeping back in ala Abington
lotsofmenteam at 10:23:11 Thursday October 23 2003
Tuesday nights debacle was a turning point for me, in that i really feel that i no longer have any passion for my team.
I arrived at sixfields on Tuesday night full of anticipation and hoping to see a comfortable win. However as we all know it was far from it,myself and others had to sit through 90 minutes of utter garbage,11 men wearing the colours of my teams shirts playing as if they had just come back from a night out on the town, showing absolutely no committment or passion. Lowe stood around most of the night looking like he had just soiled his underwear.Trollope does not even deserve a mention... enough said. We can change the manager every week, but with a team of players who are unwilling to perform then there really is no hope. If i had paid £17 to go and watch a live group perform and did not like what i saw,i would not go back. If i paid the same amount of money for a meal and did not enjoy it,i would ask for a refund. So why should i pay to be served up with a plate of tripe. Trollope and Co if you do not want to wear the shirt with pride, then close the door on your way out to the dole office.
Please Mr manager get some fighting spirit into our team and give me something to look forward to when Swansea arrive at Sixfields.
Anon at 10:00:53 Thursday October 23 2003
lol @ abington
Abington at 09:49:35 Thursday October 23 2003
RSM - I wish you would stop contemplating your navel about who and who should not have been considered. We've got what we've got, which is a lot more than other teams in the division. They looked half asleep to me, and it's time for a wake up call. The patern of play was ... Carruthers gets the ball and passes square to Doig, who passes square to Sammo, who sees Dollop coming back available so he passes to Dollop, who passes back to Carruthers who hits an aimless ball up the wing, which is easily cut out by the opposition defender, who heads it to his man. Then all hell breaks loose - suddenly there are players running off the ball, slick passing, lunging tackles from our defence, them driving into our half, somebody sticks a leg out luckily wins it,it goes to Carruthers..who passes inside to Doig (yawn) who passes back to Thompson, who sees Dollop coming back to make himself available.....etc etc. Mwanwhile their keeper has got changed and is sitting on the team bus.
GAZMAN at 08:54:37 Thursday October 23 2003
A couple of mates came to the game last Friday and were pretty sad at what they saw, one of them came back on tuesday and from reading between the lines of what he said I doubt he will be there for quite a while.Anyway this isnt my point, we were in the players bar before and at half time on Friday and he recognised Sean Dyche, now I wouldnt know him but my mate is a keen soccer am fan and apparently he appears on the show quite a lot.Isnt Dyche a midfield hardman? what was he doing at the game? Could he be a target? Or did he see enough to go away and not want to get involved?
therealslimmartinw at 08:33:25 Thursday October 23 2003
TCMP, There really is no need to get your knickers in a twist. You I misunderstood your post, I read it as saying that we appointed two people in place of John Ward. A simple mistake. I thought it might have been an economic decision. So I take it then that it was CC and Deehan instead of CC and Ward. I would love to know what made John Deehan preferable to John Ward?? As for public unfair criticism at Sixfields too early, I am right up your street on that score. But I still think there are worse sins committed out of the mouths of fans at Sixfields than a couple of idiots shouting non-obscenities at a dugout. Sorry. I would get more worked up if it was angry uncontrollable swearing while there are children around. And that happens a lot. Maybe if we sorted that kind of abuse out then we might at the same time sort out those who lose the head at football matches. I notice there are already people questioning CC's appointment. Having now understood TCMP's post it does surprise me that we didnt go for the John Ward option as he has a far better record than Deehan. But then other factors may have come into play, I don't know. But Colin Calderwood, while inexperienced has to be given a chance. There are plenty of managers who have odd styles. But that is often offset by their partners who have a contrasting style. CC cannot help his manner. But it has to be said results are not good with two points out of nine and, who would have thought it, a relegation dogfight on the cards. Patience is a virtue and we all should take a swig out of that cup. But not to the point where we end up in the Conference.
Matt Scott at 22:59:59 Wednesday October 22 2003
Bexxy.............it was Burberry last night
Lutterworth at 22:34:26 Wednesday October 22 2003
made it at last!! I like the new format Ray and the site seems busy enough to show the change to a password system has worked ok. I'm so disheartened with our performances at the moment the whole club seems to have a cloud over it. It seems as if everyone agrees that the root of our problems lie with the midfield and we desperately need at least two experienced players to turn us around - one battler and one playmaker. Its probably time to try to move out some players as well.
ajp at 22:20:31 Wednesday October 22 2003
this is so depressing at the mo, im struggling to sleep at the minute, im seriously starting to feel another relegation fight comin on, well to be honest, 'fight' is the wrong word with those donkeys out on the pitch playing for us, they couldnt fight off a team of 6 year olds! something is not right, the thing that worries me ist that when other teams have a new boss, results pick up, at least for the short term, but with us that never happens, why is this? The players still dont look interested!!
TCMP- is there any more funds available for new players if cc feels theres a need?
LH at 22:02:29 Wednesday October 22 2003
Apologies for spelling & grammer , quite embarrasing .
Anon at 22:02:24 Wednesday October 22 2003
his comments-dull and boring springs to mind!! he'll probably resign before christmas!!
cobblestone at 22:02:05 Wednesday October 22 2003
my car sticker says northampton town on loan to division 3, can anyone tell me how long for!!!!!!!!!!we are staying up! (sounds familiar)
LH at 22:00:50 Wednesday October 22 2003
I listened to CC at a trust meeting & it gave me confidence in his abilities. CC senior is here to stay i belive & will be given every change to rebuild / build a team.Even when we won three on the bounce we never dominated a game & now we have been well & truly found out. Snap at us , give us no space stop us from playing the ball around and we simply dont know what to do . So if this tactic obviously works
I'll ask the obvios question why dont we do it to other teams ? Do the players believe the pre season hype & think they are better than they actually are ?
Anon at 21:59:08 Wednesday October 22 2003
have to say his post match comments give me nothing to get inspired about, i mean if his tone of voice is how he speasks to the players then it wouldnt exactly get me motivated!!
Oregon Cobbler at 21:39:50 Wednesday October 22 2003
From afar I'm puzzled by Calderwood's appointment. He was reserve team manager at Spurs. End of story. I'll also wager that Calderwood won't last the season; the attendances will crash and the board will yet again be forced to act to avoid financial ruin. There is nothing in this appointment to inspire confidence.
A Childs View at 19:54:53 Wednesday October 22 2003
Now that wasn't very good was it! 2 hours to get there after work, I truly wish I hadn't bothered. Loads wrong and can't be arsed to go into it. Not sure if I'm going to Leyton O on Saturday now, I had planned to but I'm thinking why ruin another Saturday? The only possible thing to take from last night is that we might have hit rock bottom from which the only way is up.
Anon at 18:13:38 Wednesday October 22 2003
Anyone noticed the squad numbers on the official site that aaron cavill is number 0
TCMP at 17:18:34 Wednesday October 22 2003
rsm, please read my comments below in reply to Dicho, For the final time JW was not an alternative for CC who was our first choice, he was considered as part of a team with CC but lost out to JD. Now, have I got that through? Also I know and appreciate that we are not judging the management team after one game and I am glad to hear it. My comments are just aimed at the very few who launched into a verbal tirade of abuse (albeit not including vulgarity) on the debut appearance of our new management team at Sixfields, I was pleased to hear that some fans "had a word" and hope others will be so proactive to quell unnecasary and unfair criticism. Wilf you are going to Orient on Saturday gfor the same reasons I am, and that is you want to be there when we turn the corner, and finally ATFC that "on the dance floor" joke was the worst I heard for some time, don't give up your day job.
MK Cobbler at 16:39:52 Wednesday October 22 2003
Just to emphasise the valid point about the strikers, consider Richards' goal record at Swansea when they were in the bottom 3 or 4. Something is badly wrong in our "engine room".
jm at 16:15:21 Wednesday October 22 2003
how can people say it is the strikers? if they were missing chance after chance then yes,it would be the strikers,however as they do not get the service, it points the finger at the providers.
ALG at 15:21:31 Wednesday October 22 2003
One of the main problems with the current Cobblers team is we are still playing with the same midfield we had last season. They were not effective then, and have not improved this season. In division three the two central midfielders have to be at lest six feet tall, this is due to the long ball game played high down the middle in this division. Last night was a prime example, with Harsley and Trollope not winning a header all night. Too many times during the game they were out of position, leaving a large whole in midfield, which as allowed the opposition time to play the ball with great effect against us.
Until the new management sign two ball winning, ball playing midfielders six feet tall or above then we are going to struggle all season. Many people I have spoken to say we need another striker, I personnel feel it’s the midfield that is the problem and the sooner we address this the quicker we will start winning games.
therealslimmartinw at 15:12:47 Wednesday October 22 2003
TCMP, nobody is judging the management team after one match, but it is interesting that John Ward was in the frame. I am aware from people that dealt with him at Carlisle that he was anxious about the revolving door, here but was interested. Interesting choice, though, get two people, one inexperienced but with potential and one experienced with an up and down career for one manager who has a super reputation. I don't know what people think about that? If it was not a money decision, then I don't know that I would have taken that route, but then we dont know what was in the equation when the choice was made. I never said that Stan Collymore was the answer, I do think the midfield is devoid of ideas and we have tended to go for similar types of players there. We miss the days of Savage and Hunt who complimented each other in midfield, particularly our promotion season. Madrid Cobbler makes a great point, before anyone who slags him off for not going to games!!! We are not creating chances. surely asa is the kind of player who will give us something different to what we have become.... predictable. Although, i have to say I dont think the stats will show our defence is okay at all. I still feel we are lacking an experienced defender there. We are a side of boys without a leader.
Bazza at 14:41:08 Wednesday October 22 2003
TCMP, thanks for usual quick response, Tony.
TCMP at 14:34:11 Wednesday October 22 2003
Bazza, thanks for taking my mind off of last nights result. We have discussed what we can do for Frank Large and for starters we have decidec to set up a new trophy/award to be presented on the pitch at the end of each season. The Frank Large trophy will be awarded to the most promising member of the senior youth squad and would probably go to those breaking through to earning their first proffesional contract. We need to talk to the family and get their permission but I would appreciate fans views on whether or not we are on the right lines.
Bazza at 12:53:23 Wednesday October 22 2003
There are a couple of good peices on Frank Large in the latest issue of WALOC. It reminded me of posts on here a few weeks ago calling for some sort of a memorial to Frank. Suggestions included, Naming a Stand, a Walter Tull type memorial and my own favourite, a memorial game played each (pre/post)season involving a Cobblers 11 and a team selected from Frank's other clubs (should be plenty of players to choose from!) where the takings would be donated to an appropriate charity. Does anyone know if it got beyond the talking stage? TCMP do you think it's viable?
MK Cobbler at 12:48:38 Wednesday October 22 2003
Yes, Sid, I mean the players, all of them. This constant picking on Trollope is pathetic. We have seen it before with our crowd, one player is singled out for constant crticism - remember Howard and Parkin? And they haven't exactly done too badly in another side.
Sid at 12:45:22 Wednesday October 22 2003
Forget to add, that was Trolly's worst ever game in a Cobblers shirt, and easily Harsley's.
Sid at 12:42:34 Wednesday October 22 2003
Right. It's not about Trollope. It's not about Low. It's not about any one player. Bloody hell, it's the whole team!!!! Ok, Low created the three best crosses of the match (and yes, did buugger all apart from that) then people slag off Trollope again (yes he was rubbish last night). But hang on, in contrast where was Harsley all game? Surely no-one can say that Harsley put more effort in than Trollope, or was better. I don't think so. Harsley = atrocious last night. Every player should be ashamed of themsevles, but I feel many players play better when the whole team is better. For instance, When the team is crap, Trolly is crap - think back to earlier in the season when we were playing well, many agreed Trolly was playing superbly. As MaccCobblers said, Trolly/Harsley is so ineffective, and surely it is time to try out new partnerships in midfield. This is where we lost last night's game, so sod the new striker - get midfielders in! Finally the barracking in the crowd is getting laughable..... Someone up front loses the ball and yep, it's Trollope's fault of course. :-)
MK Cobbler at 12:31:41 Wednesday October 22 2003
It seems that we are all saying that it is the players who must take a long hard look at themselves and their commitment to this club because they are the people responsible for the present predicament.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 12:10:21 Wednesday October 22 2003
Sophie Ellis Bextor's body has been found in a French footballer's hotel room. Police think it's murder on Zidane's floor
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:36:10 Wednesday October 22 2003
Last night was the sort of Horror show that most teams supporters see once every 2 or 3 years, sadly we are seeing one almost every week. The worst by far this season, and that includes Hull, Oxford and Huddersfield. We were beaten - and beaten well - by a truly awful side who were simply 'more up for it' and who wanted to win. Tactics, substitutes etc are imaterial if the players are not interested. It was a simply a disgrace. And if I was the manager, with the exception of Thompson and Smith I would drop all of them on Saturday and play the youth team/reserves. If only to make them realise and to publicly humiliate them. The 'bless em, they've got no confidence because of the negativity aimed towards them from the crowd' brigade should realise that these wan@@rs are very well paid professionals and are just not even trying. We were so one dimentional last night that it made an Atkins team look like the 1970 Brazil side. Long ball played towards Richards EVERY time. 2nd half, long ball played towards Walker EVERY time. Notice I say played towards and not AT - because the ball NEVER quite made it to its intended target! Comments attributed towards the midfield need not to be repeated - please get it sorted before Saturday CC and JD. It cannot get any worse than last night which was truly the pitts. However, it will continue to be repeated until last seasons donkeys are all finally replaced with hungrier more talented professionals. I am specifically talking about Trollope, Hargrieves (tryer but not the answer) and Harsley. The latter would probably perk up if he had a 'minder' or two to play alongside. Trollope - GED RID. I do not want to see him in a claret shirt (or red for that matter) EVERY AGAIN. USELESS, INEPT - 50 plus games now and he's been good in about 5 of them. Rant over, now I've got 3 days to work out exactly why I am going to Leyton Orient!!!
Bazza at 11:28:36 Wednesday October 22 2003
And Hull
Bazza at 11:28:16 Wednesday October 22 2003
SEALO, I should add that when Trolly gets into forward positions I think that he looks a different player, maybe we have been playing him out of position? TCMP, surely no one is judging the new management team after 3 games? I thought right from the start of this season that promotion with an almost completely new team was optimistic, although I thought that things would go better than they have. Look at the teams who rebuilt last year, Swansea for one looked like being relegated at one time but this year are near the top.
Sealo at 11:15:21 Wednesday October 22 2003
I've never knocked him before but after Friday/Tuesday I have worked out that we will never move forward with Trollope in the side. Despite his obvious endeavours he plays too deep, enjoys little triangles in dangerous places, plays too many wall balls back to his back four and seems to be permanently facing the wrong way. As his position is crucial in shaping our play I think he is the main problem. Contrast him with Williams who played in the same position last night, he always seemed to be facing and looking forward
TCMP at 11:13:12 Wednesday October 22 2003
Oh dear, I would have put my house on us getting a result last night, good job I didn't, and it looks as if we will need to be more patient than we would want to be. Like everyone else I want the results now, I want the entertainment now, and I want the feel good factor now, but a reality check tells me it won't be that easy. RSM My job is to represent the fans view, I am not over friendly to any manager!! Mr Atkins will vouch for that, but I feel as a whole we are always too negative too quickly and as such I try to provide balance and ensure that I can participate in a debate that has more than one thread. Dicho, CC was our first choice, and yes we did speak to John Ward, what you fail to see is that we appointed two people and John Ward lost out to John Deehan not Colin Calderwood. And before you say it this does not mean that Ward was first choice for the Deehan post. We spoke to a whole raft of people and we appointed froma long list. How those interviewed responded to us at and post interview was very much part of our decision making process. Some wanted too much money and we felt didin't have the club at heart. Some wanted to do things their way and their way only. Some where interesting but didn't stand up to references, but CC was spot on from the start and came with high reccomendation and I for one (despite last night) am still backing him to go all the way.
Bazza at 10:40:04 Wednesday October 22 2003
Couldn't go last night but was there on Friday. I have never been that convinced by Trolloppe. I don't like his, you pass it to me and I'll give it staight back and sideways backwards style and I've never seen a player make so many suicidal passes. Many posters have said that his holding play and being able to put his foot on the ball justify his shortcomings. I've thought that perhaps I'm wrong. That he has certain qualities that for some reason (in 40 years of watching football) I'm unable to appreciate. I thought that perhaps the old regime didn't suit his style of play and that perhaps CC & JD would play more to his strengths. It will be interesting to see if the new management team persist with Trolly, I thought he was truly awful on Friday. What was he like last night? I'm not one for booing and jeering players and won't do so in this case. I'm intitled to an opinion and I've tried to express it in footballing terms. I'm sure Paul is a very nice man and wish him no harm.
Macc Cobblers at 10:20:54 Wednesday October 22 2003
Totally agree with the comments about the midfield - as people have said this is not something that has just happened, everybody has been aware of the problems for a long while.
I have always liked the partnership of Hargreaves and Carruthers down the left - but it patently did not work last night. For whatever reason, Hargraves was out of sorts - and Carruthers positional play was often exposed. Re Trollope and Harsley in the middle, I don't think that I have ever seen such an ineffective central pairing - and Low on the right still remains an enigma.
At the back, the distribution is awful - with the worse culprit being Doig - with the ball basically given straight back to the opposition.
On more trivial matters, what is the thinking of not having a goalkeeper amongst the substitutes - assuming that Weaver was not injured ?
Finally, in the last two games with the sides changing round and the opposition kicking off, I assume that the Cobblers won the toss and decided to attack the North Stand first - what is the thinking behind this. I would always prefer to attack the North Stand in the second half - especially if we are chasing the game.
United Front at 10:20:35 Wednesday October 22 2003
Watching the "midfield" four last night I noticed that every time our defenders played a long ball they all ran forward like headless chickens meaning that when the Kidderminster defenders inevitably won the headers they were all caught up-field. We were second to the ball all night (first and second balls), and they showed more desire, will to win and passion than us which is totally unacceptable.
Abington at 10:12:31 Wednesday October 22 2003
The whole team was truly appalling last night and should be ashamed of themselves. To pay the thick end of 50 quid for a Dad and two kids, and be served up that rubbish is simply not on. As a season ticket holder for a number of years, I am serously reviewing my position. I am not even going to bother to analyze the problems, of which there are many. What about Parrish, Hunter Savage and Hunt in the midfield now - eh?
jm at 09:59:46 Wednesday October 22 2003
fao therealslimmartinw- were you at the game last night? i only ask because you refer to asa being played down the right,when he was actually down the left. you also say that smithy was 'employed' down the wing when he only went there for the last 15-20 minutes,to which effect he was the best player on the pitch. Service to our strikers really is the key here, we could have owen and shearer up front but without any kind of service they too would look poor. keep Richards and Smith up front and bring in a quality midfielder,or better still teach our current midfielders how to put a through ball into the strikers 'on the floor'. Now there's a thought!!
Paul S at 09:03:39 Wednesday October 22 2003
Inside Right - although JLo was in space he was always stationary and in front of their defence. IMHO he ought to be sitting level with the defender and either move short for the pass or wait for the ball over the top to run onto. As it was he was waiting for the pass barely 15 yards ahead of our defender facing our goal. By the time he received the ball and had turned there were always Kiddie players on him. Also when we were attacking down the opposite flank he should be playing as an extra striker getting in the box instead of forlornly standing on the touch line. Thought we actually looked quite good when Smith dropped back into midfield with Dudfield up front. He knew how to beat their players and/or pass to our forwards feet.
Dave2 at 08:59:59 Wednesday October 22 2003
All the talk of us "only" being six points below the play-off places! Fact is we are now only four points short of the bottom two. This is the reality of it. Two more bad results and we could actually be down there, bottom but one. And until we get a midfield I can't see any significant improvement. Funny that virtually everyone here has been saying the same thing about our midfield for a season and a half at least, yet it hasn';t been addressed. It's so obvious maybe it's transparent to the (various) managers who have been in and out of this club in recent times. I don;t see why we need to go on finding forwards. We have good forwards. But we have nobody who can offer them anything. Talk of Collymore to me is utterly twerpish. Even the best forwards would stagnate here given our current lack of anything resembling a midfield unit.
Nocturnal Norman at 08:53:12 Wednesday October 22 2003
THE MANAGEMENT TEAM OUT!!!!!!! Isnt that our usual way!!
BlackpoolCobbler at 08:21:11 Wednesday October 22 2003
The problem is simple. I come down last week and watched the Scunthorpe game. We started really well in that game with the midfield getting stuck in. After the break the midfield sat deeper, almost on top of the defense and we were murdered. The threat Smudger, Josh and Richards were posing in the first half had suddenly been wiped out. I'm not saying that's what they meant to do, it appears that we are getting desperate to just get a win even 1-0 that we are at times sitting back when in the lead and holding on rather than going for what could be the killer 2nd goal. We definately need more creativity in midfield, someone who will put their foot on the ball and someone who has some vision. I know the forwards will deliver, especially Smudger and Dudders if the quality is supplied. smudger makes some great runs and works his socks off but the result is all to often the same with no quality service. I'm not sure about Harsley, come to think of it Trollope either. They are not exactly players who are going to drift past the oppositions midfield players. I can't remember either of them beating a man last week.
Badger at 07:59:52 Wednesday October 22 2003
Will we ever be able to hold our heads up high again????.....I'm back at work in Direones land.....just waiting for the ribbing I'm going to get today.....the only good thing about last night is that the Posh lost again.....you think I would be use to Cobbs not winning after all these years....but I'm not it still hurts..... Come on sort it and quick.
Treenie_01 at 07:54:00 Wednesday October 22 2003
Last nights match was summed up when I went to collect my boyfriend's ticket from the ticket office. I'd reserved his ticket about 2-3 weeks ago(I'm a season ticket holder thank god). I was told I would have West Stand Row P Seat 166 - the one next to mine.
I went in there yesterday before the match only to be told that they had no record of me booking the ticket and that I couldn't have seat 166 because "the club reserve those (?!!) seats). My boyfriend ended up with seat 170. We took our seats waited 10 minutes for the usuals that don't bother turning up on time. No one arrived. So if the club isn't go to use the "reserved seats" why not sell them. Also why tell me I could have that seat in the first place.
Like our midfield....get it sorted!!!!!!!!
Madrid Cobbler at 07:53:01 Wednesday October 22 2003
Have only seen Cobblers live once this season due to where I live, but always listen in on ntfc.tv, where game stats are updated every 5 minutes or so during the game. There's no point blaming the forwards. Last night we created fewer shots on goal than any other team in the division. This has become the norm in the last half dozen games. Lack of chances created must mean a serious midfield problem. If our defence is OK, then surely the midfield is also responsible for the numerous chances very ordinary sides seem to be able to create when playing us. We can perhaps only afford to play one of Hargreaves, Harsley, Trollope and Burgess with a ballwinner as partner in central midfield.
MK Cobbler at 07:24:49 Wednesday October 22 2003
Dismal performance I'm afraid and I agree with the comments about the failings of our midfield, practically the same as last season's and probably playing worse. I doubt that CC and JD have seen much of lower division football in recent years but they must now have a clear idea of what is needed and our shortcomings.
Pihuan at 07:18:49 Wednesday October 22 2003
Almost glad I wasn't able to go last night. That's close to the pits, losing at home to Kiddie. Still as they say, the only way is up. Glad to see the centre forward situation is being looked at, and the midfield situation is getting deperate too - but we have good players in midfield, what's wrong with them? The hereford LDV game is a potential banana skin we could have done without too.
Badger at 00:50:07 Wednesday October 22 2003
My Man of the Match......Asa.....he done more in the ten mins he was on than our midfield did all night......What midfield.... couldn't even win the third ball...... I took a friend to his first cobbs game tonight...... it took him 5 mins to say..... your m/field is rubbish..... we made Kidds look good and they are far from that.... singing how can you sing any songs to that lot....
Simon at 00:43:24 Wednesday October 22 2003
Surely the first thing that CC needs to sort out is our midfield (or lack of). The midfield treats the ball like a radioactive pass the parcel. They were second to every ball and when they did get it they had no idea what to do with it. As long as the midfield is in disaray things won't change. The pressure is always on the defence because the midfield give the ball away so easily. The ball bypasses the midfield out of defence by being hit long and aimless out to the forwards who 9 times out of 10 lose out to the bigger and stronger centre halves. We have got to learn to stop giving the ball away so cheaply. I think it would be harsh and unfair to critise the forwards when they are given little or no service. How can we judge them when they are not being fed the chances from the midfield? I might be a lone voice in the wilderness but i still think that Low will come good and could be a fans favourite if and when the team start to play.
Hotel Ender at 00:33:54 Wednesday October 22 2003
real slim says the side put out today bears no resemblence to the one that started last year - factually correct - unfortunately though the "engine room" of the side - the midfield - is exactly the same, Hargreaves, Trollope & Harsley and that's where our problem lies, I'm convinced Smith & Richards will score goals with the right service - trouble is our midfield isn't up to providing that service, it got so bad the defence - just like last year - bypassed the midfield and kept playing long balls which favoured the opposition time and time again, only when it was played over the left back for J-Lo to run onto did we look dangerous. I am one seriously pissed off supporter tonight!
inside right at 00:25:27 Wednesday October 22 2003
Tonight was a shambolic performance and to blame Josh Low is not to understand the problem. Time and again he was in space and we waited until he had two players on him before we passed the ball - of course he loused up who wouldn't? But it was his cross that Richard Walker almost scored from. Hargreaves, Trollope and Harsley should now all drop into the Stiffs as they are all plainly not up to it. Our midfield as a unit was nonexistant for 98% of the game, when we split the play on the odd occasion we could actually open the Kiddys up. Another poor performance in defence and Sammo worries me now every time I see his name on the team sheet. We need a creative midfield player and a midfield hard man who can put the fear of god up teams playing us, rather than the current pussycats we have. As for Stan Collymore being the answer RSM - if he is it is a bloody silly question. Smudger will score goals off a target man and Walker could be the one. All our targets as strikers are currently injured including now Steve Howard who has had a hernia op. We need these extra players in quickly to halt the slide before it gets too late.
Glenn at 23:59:46 Tuesday October 21 2003
Too true, Martin. It is a start, and for that we should be grateful. But bring him on for Low, and give him more time. One of Atkins (and Wilson's) great strengths were to give the newer 'class' players short rests. Heggs and Forrester spring to mind - they rarely played full games when they first joined, and they always looked sharp.
therealslimmartinw at 23:57:58 Tuesday October 21 2003
What surprises me is why it is that Smithy who is the only one that looks like he is going to knock in the goals, is employed as a wide player, instead of attacking the opponents penalty box. What gets me is that the issues regarding what we are lacking as a side have been known since before Wilko took over and have despite the money never been addressed. One question, why is it that if we have money that we are relying on a loan forward?? A question not a statement. Does anybody know if there has been anything said at the trust meeting or otherwise about there being no more money available?
therealslimmartinw at 23:53:45 Tuesday October 21 2003
Glenn, but at least Asa is getting a look in now. Which is more than our previous numpty of a manager was able to give.
KettCobb at 23:51:59 Tuesday October 21 2003
Granted it was a disaster tonight,we were awful,fair play to kiddy they deserved the win. We had no midfield,we wernt even 2nd to every ball let alone first! it was horrible to watch. CC and JD will now realise what a massive task they have on their hands,we are on a slippery slope down the table and if we are not careful we are going to be struggling like this all season! Seems to me as if Trollope and Low never get taken off or dropped etc when in my eyes they were 2 of the very poor performers tonight. Trollope does alot of running but that is about it,Low does alot of standing around and a bit of running and the occasional cross. We need some bite in the team and some passion,the only person to come out with any credit tonight was probably Smith,who ran his socks off and still looked a class player. The amount of top class runs he makes is untrue. Asamoah did well in the 3minutes he got. Wasnt sure about the defence,Willmott at right back? whats up with Chambers? Hopefully CC can turn it around,he still has my full support and hopefully all the other fans can not get on his back just yet. Im starting to go to games expecting the worst now,that way your never dissapointed!
mp2 at 23:41:54 Tuesday October 21 2003
Not normally moved to post messages but so disappointed by tonight's performance that I will do. Was fearing the worst when the teams were announced. Expected to see Reeves or Burgess in place of Trollope or Harsley. Those two, whilst arguably good players, have been tried and tested as a pair and do not work. This season especially, when they have played they have failed to press forward (maybe because of a lack of target man to play off) and as a consequence our perennial sideways or backwards passing has become very predictable. Felt VERY sorry for SMith tonight. He was trying to play both midfield and attack to get something going but without support was bound to fail. We need 1 or 2 central midfielders as a matter of urgency. At least one of them should be 6 foot plus and have some bite (someone's got to win headers and tackles around the middle of the park) and one of them be able to carry or pass the ball forwards.
Glenn at 23:41:03 Tuesday October 21 2003
But yet again they play Derek on the left side, give him 9 mins, and wonder why we don't score. I say the game plan should be to give Low 60 - 70 mins to try and run their left back ragged, then bring Derek on to finish them off. I think a lot of people would pay to watch that.
therealslimmartinw at 23:33:38 Tuesday October 21 2003
Glenn, another case of needing a creative midfielder which again is not rocket science, along with the need for a goalscorer, its been something we have know we have needed since last season. We spent loads of money and what have we got? Neither. It makes me weep.
therealslimmartinw at 23:31:55 Tuesday October 21 2003
Asamoah in causing problems for defences on the right wing shocker. It's not rocket science to work out that he is decent on that side. Like all that any manager needs is two eyes and a brain.
Glenn at 23:24:01 Tuesday October 21 2003
For me, both Harsley and Trollope were below par today and that was the main reason for the defeat. Neither seemed to want to run at the opposition and were content to give the ball back to Sammo/Doig to see how high they could kick it. Two decent chances (Trollope's and Walker's - both created by Low) is not much for 90 minutes effort.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 23:19:45 Tuesday October 21 2003
I for one am prepared to slag off Josh Low, frankly he was bl**dy awful, he never held any sort of position, didn't pressure his defender, got caught in no mans land. Asamoah in his 5 minutes did more to justify a start, got more crosses over and worried the defenders. I am not saying he is a bad player, but his contribution to the team was not enough. He wasn't helped by the rest of the midfields refusal to join in the game. Once again our throw ins have deteriorated into the reams of pantomime. Tomorrows training should start with - "this is a football"
therealslimmartinw at 23:16:10 Tuesday October 21 2003
Wilf, the problem is exactly that... that we've changed the players, the managers, the directors and the chairman. You cannot chuck out everything from top to bottom and expect everything to come out rosy. And before you say anything, Wilko's departure was VERY necessary. The player turnover was a huge mistake. Exeter did the very same thing. ditched a load of players and brought in a load a few seasons ago and they are now in the Conference.
Wilf at 23:13:25 Tuesday October 21 2003
Well poor old Josh Low, I feel sorry for the lad, I really do!! He's had such a lot to put up with hasn't he. His performances have been abysmal, and that's a fact. He has to stand up and be counted along with the rest of those who are underperforming week in week out. I'd sooner spare my sympathy for those who sit in the stands week in week out, home and away, witnessing these gutless performances. We've changed the players, the managers, the directors, the chairman - and still we are massively underperforming. I am fed up with making excuses or even hearing excuses, what I want to see is some pride, passion and results. Starting Saturday please.
therealslimmartinw at 23:13:19 Tuesday October 21 2003
Ralph2, ur probably right. But nobody is beating a path to his door and the last I heard he said he would consider Southend, and they are second bottom of the Third.
Ralph2 at 23:11:48 Tuesday October 21 2003
RSM, I am saying that Stan would go to a div 1 side not a team contending for second bottom spot of the football league.
therealslimmartinw at 23:08:25 Tuesday October 21 2003
Is anyone really saying that if Stan Collymore was signed up for Sixfields that you would stay away? The guy, whatever you think about his troubles, has more than enough ability to take the Third Division by storm, if he wants to. He's an
England international, for god's sake. I think he is worth a one season gamble with the necessary protection provisos in the contract to ensure that he doesn't renege. But look at the issues Gascoigne has, but he is training with Wolves and he is much older. The theory is that if nothing else he will lift the dressing room. Signing Collymore would send a message to the rest of the division, and it's NOT that we are a crazy load of loons. Jardel has had as many problems as Collymore, but Bolton took a gamble, and look how it has paid off. It's called having a motivating manager. And that's Premiership Bolton. How can we possibly lose out on something like that while we currently prop sit at the foot of the Football League. Collymore clearly wants to be noticed again. Let's give him a platform to play.
Wilf at 23:04:50 Tuesday October 21 2003
Ian Evatt is at Chesterfield and scored an own goal tonight. Isn't he a centre-half more than a midfielder? With 35 players in the squad already, how many more can we bring in?
therealslimmartinw at 23:02:35 Tuesday October 21 2003
It has to be said that the Cardozas could and should have cut Wilko free sooner so that we did not have stupid decisions made on the side. Directors can have all the money in the world but if they make poor decisions about the people they employ, then we end up in the position we are in. Of course, the Cardozas have come into the situation late, but not so late now that they cannot fix it. It was a gamble to bring in Colin Calderwood on what is his first management job and I for one hope it pays off, for the good of Northampton Town FC because lets face it we are in relegation territory now. Even the most pessimistic would not believe that we would be in this position, 19th at this time. The quality on the pitch remains poor because the people employed to bring in the quality have made bad decisions and then mismanaged the side to the point that morale is rock bottom. And what is more worrying than anything is that even a new management team has not lifted those players in the way it normally does and was evidenced by Kidderminster and the Molby factor. I do worry that we are still looking for a big man when Dudfield was supposed to be that in place of Stampy who was offloaded to the Conference and is now knocking them in there. Why are players playing better when they leave Sixfields. While the long ball game may seem like a disaster, under Willo when we got promotion we did employ that tactic effectively when we had Steve Howard. Its not sexy football, and it is not the football most of us want to see but it has been known to get results in this division. I have to say we Cobblers fans me included sneer at long ball, but Oxford used it effectively agains us with big Allsop up front and they stuffed off us of the park. Of course, they were not JUST a long ball side. We are a side that needs experience, steady eddies, steel in midfield and god how many times does it need to be said a 20 goals a season goalscorer. We cannot rely on Smith. And anyone who slags of Josh Low, ought to ask themselves why he is not performing. It's not through lack of talent. He probably thinks right now what a big mistake it was to come here. I mean, it was Wilko that brought him here, he goes then Hilly goes it is a revolving door at Sixfields. But sadly the decisions were corredt ones. We just need to make the RIGHT decision on the field from now on. Restore some stability to the club and try and have a settled cohesive side that battles for each other. That's a big get, though.
LH at 23:02:26 Tuesday October 21 2003
Its bloody irrelevant who plays up front if the midfield is a desert of creativity & surrendered after the first 10 minutes of every game.
Snakey at 23:01:52 Tuesday October 21 2003
May I recommend you sign Ian Evatt again who is available. Now he was a decent loan signing.
dicho at 22:54:53 Tuesday October 21 2003
RSM says that Kiddie would have been up for it with a new manager etc, but what about the Cobblers?
I also found a comment from your venerable MP a little strange, in that he was saying that CC was always the boards first choice and yet they couldn't agree terms with Mr Ward. I suppose that is New Labour speak for 'we did well boys despite the evidence'. Personally (and despite the inauspicious start to their reign) I think you have a promising pairing at the helm and in some respects I am envious. One thing is clear though, there is no overnight fix available because these two are not 'in your hair' motivators, but rather methodical and progressive planners.
Marvo at 22:50:39 Tuesday October 21 2003
I thought Stan Collymore wasn't available to play until January when he completes his suspension, not that I think he is the answer anyway.
LH at 22:48:00 Tuesday October 21 2003
That was so poor tonight, its getting really painful now. Our midfield was second to every ball , hardly made a tackle , we couldnt get near them . Yet the slightest pressing from them & we treat the ball like its got an infectious disease . Josh Low put accross two or three cross's that should of been converted & a couple of really crap ones then stood in 18 yards of clear space all the other time whilst we played the ball around on the left. I think the players try & work hard but our lack of quality in the middle is becoming a major problem now. It exposes the defence & creates near nothing for the front players . For 18 months whoever has been up front has been left to fend of scraps .New guy Walker held ball up quite well but lacks Richards pace , who I thought was unlucky to be sacrficed.
Where is it going to end ?
Wilf at 22:46:57 Tuesday October 21 2003
That was really poor tonight and if performances continue like this then gates will drop markedly in the run up to Christmas. I am at a loss with this current crop of players, they are performing so poorly. As much as I want Josh Low to succeed he is nothing short of abysmal. Playing Richards is doing him, or the team, no favours at all. Hargreaves, Harsley and Trollope are performing as they did last season and that ended up in us being relegated! Reid, Wilmott, Smith, Carruthers and Chambers is about all we have out of a squad of thirty odd - Wilkinson really has a lot to answer for. I know Walker only got a half but I saw nothing that filled me with any great excitement or optimism, he just looks like more of the same, just another Dudfield/Richards/Morison. It is without doubt woeful and our current run, stretching back in to last season and beyoned, must be the worse run in living memory. Why am I going to Orient Saturday?
paddington at 22:40:41 Tuesday October 21 2003
But sadly Ray the next "home" game for those of us in London is next week at Leyton!
Ray at 22:30:11 Tuesday October 21 2003
Never mind - look on the bright side - its nearly a month til the next home game.
Ralph2 at 22:28:51 Tuesday October 21 2003
I shall read the rest of your last message RSM but what planet are you on if you think we could encourage Stan Collymore to join us, I know he has had moments of madness but never to the extent you may be suggesting.right, back to the rest of your posting.
Anon at 22:25:34 Tuesday October 21 2003
After all the spending, all the pre-season optimism about "bouncing straight back" etc, where are we now? Thee free-fall from Div2 last season seems not to have been stemmed. The downward spiral has, perhaps, been slowed. But downward it remains. The Cardozas, bless them, have given this club a lifeline and much more. But there seems precious little return for their investment. We have blamed, then sacked, a succession of managers. Throughout all this the quality on the pitch has remained poor. The lack of cohesion, the seeming confusion over tactics, the largely ineffective midfield, poor finishing and a seeming desire to revert at the drop of a hat to the old long-ball gam, remain as evident as ever. It's been many a year since we had a team who played the ball with any confidence and purpose. It's not just the sad results that we are seeing. It's the way we are getting beaten, the lack of quality in our game that depresses most. If we were showing progress, results would follow. But the kind of performances we are turning in week in, week out, give us very little cause for optimism. The Cardozas and the fans deserve better.
therealslimmartinw at 22:23:06 Tuesday October 21 2003
Disappointing result, but not surprising when we face a struggling side with a new manager. Players always up the ante. Sadly we didnt do the same for our new management team and now we are really facing a relegation struggle. We have to face that. I think there has been too much upheaval to our playing staff over the seasons. The side we put out today bears no resemblance to that that started last season. And I blame that to a certain extent on Wilko and his old is crap policy. We need experience and rejected it. The new loan signing sounds what it is, desperate. What on earth is wrong with Stan Collymore. The very name will lift people around us at a time when we are clearly not able to get results. Two points out of nine since the new management team came in is not great at all. You would expect players to be upbeat for a new team. But it hasnt happened. We need leaders on the pitch and those leaders tend to be experienced. In response to Simon at 09:59:23 Tuesday October 21 2003 there are more objectionable pieces of abuse within Sixfields. My understanding from what TCMP said it was merely shouting without any bad language. So I was curious as to why that is objectionable and yet someone fing and blinding he doesnt feel strongly enough to say that is not right on here. Its just curious. But I think the real reason is that TCMP is protective of the management and was with Wilko which is fair enough. But we have to have that perspective. Put simply, which I clearly amn't there I have heard a lot worse go unspoken about by those in authority. And My point to cut a short story long is lets if we are serious about cutting out abuse in Sixfields, ban those that do it. The only thing is that from what TCMP said what they said was not enough to be reprimanded for even bad language. So there you go.
Ralph2 at 22:14:53 Tuesday October 21 2003
Before the game, I think thats twice as drunk.
Ralph2 at 22:13:53 Tuesday October 21 2003
Tum tee tum tee tum. I wasn't there so I can't possibly comment.I will have to get my brother and our good friend drunk before the game saturday before the game.
jm at 22:08:55 Tuesday October 21 2003
cc certainly has his work cut out with our boys after tonights performance. the only 2 plus points were that thommo played well and kept us in the game,and smithy seemd to revel in playing left wing. i will refrain from commenting on the rest of the team as i dont want to get kicked off the board for foul and abuse language.
Anon at 21:41:28 Tuesday October 21 2003
NTFC 0-1 Kidds. Whats the quickest way to Forest Green?
Allen at 21:16:51 Tuesday October 21 2003
Anyone (like me), who are about to bin their Cobblers to win Div 3 betting slips can chase that bad money with a 7/1 bet with betfair on us to get promotion. Might as well
Sean at 20:59:15 Tuesday October 21 2003
He did take his shirt off after the goal - maybe to celebrate or maybe to swap with a Northampton one
nsb at 20:49:30 Tuesday October 21 2003
d'you think sean forgot where he was and scored by mistake? :-)
Sean at 20:09:57 Tuesday October 21 2003
No Sean - you mustn't score at Sixfield any more!
Come on Cobblers - we can still do it
Marvo at 18:18:07 Tuesday October 21 2003
Just read up about Justin Walker on the Blackpool site. Sounds useful though not exactly in form or in the first team. However, change of scenery and all that. I don't suppose the Chester fans were cheering from the rooftops when they got Stamp! If Walker does as well as Stamp, we're in for a treat.
Sean at 17:08:36 Tuesday October 21 2003
So has anyone seen a pre-publication copy of Andy Woodman's book. Does it give the reasons why he left the Cobblers?
Anon at 17:08:01 Tuesday October 21 2003
Badger at 16:09:09 Tuesday October 21 2003
It's Rob M who sells the fanzine.... and a good buy it is to.....Come on boys & girls lets have a good old sing song tonight and drown out all the old moaners.........come on the Cobblers....
Simon at 15:27:23 Tuesday October 21 2003
Who is Fanzine Bob? Is that the guy with the dodgy haircut who sells the fanzine?
WEST STAND SCANNER at 15:02:21 Tuesday October 21 2003
In my post below I meant Atkins, in the last part of my posting
WEST STAND SCANNER at 15:01:22 Tuesday October 21 2003
We all know who the moaners are in the West Stand, non swearing/non aggressive/non rascist type moaning I guess is Ok, but FANZINE BOB and his croanies they are the worst negative crowd around, for all his faults (towards the end) they did not deserve all that vitriol particularly from these so called supporters, they made me and other feel ill
A Childs View at 13:55:24 Tuesday October 21 2003
Official site says Walker can hold the ball up with his back to goal, certainly what we need - lets hope he can do that and sets Smithy up for a hat-trick tonight! Come on the Town, I want that winning feeling back again - fed up of all the post mortems and introspection, lets just kick Kidderminster off the park and score 10 goals! Come on, uurrggghhhh!!!
fwbaker@tiscali.co.uk at 12:57:33 Tuesday October 21 2003
I too was within earshot of that person in the west stand referred to by Ashcobb, and was totally shocked by what I heard which must also have been heard in the Directors box. The fact that no action was taken apart from people in adjoining seats does concern me, had that sort of language taken place in a public place then the person concerned would surely have been arrested.
Anon at 12:55:18 Tuesday October 21 2003
eh?
back of the net at 12:44:27 Tuesday October 21 2003
NO TO COLLYMORE if that women beating shit turns out for us then I hope he gets a deserved booing from all Cobblers fans
United Front at 11:54:46 Tuesday October 21 2003
He's 6ft and is described in some places as a target man and in others as a pacey forward (hopefully a combination of both!). Looking at the Blackpool website they don't seem to rate him too highly (sour grapes?) but hey lets give him a go (a bit harsh on Richards?). Having said that, any striker is probably going to struggle on the kind of supply that we provide.
moultoncobbler at 11:46:29 Tuesday October 21 2003
Well we have a new striker on loan, Richard Walker from Blackpool. Never heard of him myself, is he a target man?
United Front at 10:26:49 Tuesday October 21 2003
I'm not feeling particularly optimistic about tonights match when you consider that we will effectively be playing with a weakened team from the one that struggled on Friday. Harper was the reason we gained a point and, despite the fact that he is a good shot-stopper, I'm afraid Thompson just doesn't command his area effectively and looks very shaky under the high ball. Also, Reid looks like missing out again, and if we continue to play Doig at LB I think we will continue to struggle. I honestly cannot see us dominating matches with the personell available in Midfield, and the changes that can be made won't make much of a difference. Burgess, Reeves, Hargreaves etc are all much the same as each other - hard workers but none of them are hard men or playmakers. I fully accept that CC and JD want time to see what they have got available, but surely there are people at the club that can inform them that we need at least 1 midfielder and a target man up front.
Simon at 09:59:23 Tuesday October 21 2003
I'm sorry therealslimmartinw but I'm really curious to know what the "more objectionable" things are going on at Sixfields? Are the meat pies not meaty enough? Is the diet coke too warm? Is the grass cut to long/short? My father always told me that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, so for that I'm sorry but surely TCMP's post was valid? I'm not against fans voicing their disapproval of the management, but for gods sake they've only just got here!
gazman at 09:08:26 Tuesday October 21 2003
I think TCMP's point was to at least give CC senior a little bit of a chance intead of hurling abuse in his first home game.
therealslimmartinw at 08:51:20 Tuesday October 21 2003
TCMP's comments about negativity at the new manager is odd. Not because there is no sympathy with the view. I agree it may be irritating but why pick on that when there are plenty of other more objectionable things going on within Sixfields. It's very strange. But then it seem that TCMP's historic view is that nobody should be allowed to say anything negative about the management, even though it may be constructive and make sense. Otherwise, according to TCMP, they can go support another club. I don't know what the fans have said but I am well aware that TCMP had the same reaction when Wilko was appointed. Fans will have their say. If it is wanton abuse then that's wrong. But there will be people who think that CC is untried untested and that we could have chosen better again. I think we have toget behind the new management team and there is no way they are going to turn things around after the problems that we have had this season made by bad decisions. People have been frustrated by those string of bad decisions by board members. And I for one am quite sympathetic with that. I mean what has happened to Richard Hill? Another appointment gone wrong? Board members are only as good as the decisions they make. And the decisions that have been made were by any accounts awful. What Sid says is appalling and yes I haveheard those sorts of comments. I remember there was one situation at Sixfields where someone on West Stand was shouting abuse at Gabby that he wasnt worth the money etc and I was so incensed that I turned around to find it was a brick shouse. Never said anything, just stared but I think he calmed down after that. People do say stupid things at matches because it is not discouraged. As I have said if you are going to tackle abuse in football grounds tackle it from the top downwards. But from what TCMP is saying, it wasnt even the kind of abuse that many of us hear every time we go to Sixfields. Puzzled.
gazman at 08:34:16 Tuesday October 21 2003
Ive read a few times that a creative midfielder is needed, Gascoigne springs to mind again and with the Spurs connection with CC senior a poosible move? Also we need a big centre forward.....Collymore? Both players looking at getting back into english football and loads to prove to there doubters, imagine these 2 at sixfields week in week out? gates would certainly average more than 5000 im sure. I know its never going to happen but the thought of it..................
Pihuan at 07:10:44 Tuesday October 21 2003
It took me about 4 attempts to get on here, but glad to be back. Concerned that it will be a bit dry on here now, and some of the nonsense and pictures qquite entertaining. Some of it was distinctly unentertaining and I suppose this is the price we have to pay to get rid of the idiots. So thanks for sorting it, Ray, and if it is ever possible to get a "free to view/register to post" set up that would probably be my choice. Friday's game made it ever clearer that we need a target man, there really isn't any point playing long ball without one. A midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and spray passes around would be nice too. Last one I can remember was Crooks. Will miss tonight's game sadly, it's one that we desperately need to win.
KettCobb at 00:20:10 Tuesday October 21 2003
At the end of the day everyone has their views on who should be playing etc but only the manager picks the team,whatever team goes onto the pitch we should fully support because at the moment they definatly need it. You can see they are low on confidence and us all moaning and hurling abuse is only going to further dent their confidence. Id really like a good atmosphere tmrw lots of singing and cheering the lads on to hopefully 3 points,pity i somehow cant see it happening! This club is going in the right direction,maybe not on the field at the moment but that will change thats for sure,we have the right men in control of the club to take us forward,in every aspect,it is though going to take time and we need to be patient. We would all like miracles but these things dont happen overnight,if we have to spend another season in div3 then so be it.
My views on the team is that where we currently lack is midfield,we dont seem to know our best midfield formation or personel. We need some bite in there but we also need some creativity. I feel the defence and attack side of things are pretty much fine,its the midfield that lets us down. Trollope obviously is a decent player but my only problem with him is he seems to pass the ball backwards or sideways a bit to much and he does seem to slow attacks down which is a shame. Maybe a midfield of Low on the right,who is a good player although not showing that at the moment but he will come good,Carruthers on the left,who was superb on friday. And perhaps try Hargreaves and Burgess or Harsley and Burgess. I think Burgess is a decent young player and one we need to hold on to. With Carruthers and Low getting down the wings we could be a real threat,when was the last time we had 2 players who could get crosses in from both wings? It could be an idea to get in a big man up front that we have been crying out for though. These are just my thoughts,no doubt people will disagree and maybe some will agree. But after all we all support Cobblers and want them to be winning games and moving forwards so perhaps we should stop the abuse and bickering etc?
Glenn at 23:49:30 Monday October 20 2003
TCMP - I think that 'Get your hands out of your pockets' in the upper West was just a little frustrated with no attempts on goal in the second half. You can't ban a Cobblers fan for being frustrated, or there wouldn't be much of a crowd! Interesting that CC started with Harsley and put Asa on the bench - perhaps he's been reading this page for ideas (does he have a login, Ray?). All in all I'd have to add my weight to A Child's view's argument - a target man is a must to get out of this division. Richards and Smith are just too similar - both have a part to play but need someone to help them out.
Sid at 22:56:39 Monday October 20 2003
RSMW, I feel it has got even worse since the days of Dave Savage. He wasn't really made a scapegoat for a lot of things, but the players that have the "tags" over their name, like 'record signing' and 'Welsh international' make them a easy scapegoat. I mean, it got to the stage where Trollope made an excellent run down the wing after winning a tackle, he obviously didn't have the legs to claw the ball back from the byline and it trickled out. Someone shouted behind me "bloody hell Trollope, international player my a**e, rubbish". What is he for god sake, a speedy winger or a battling central midfielder? Some want it all...... I do aswell..... :-)
Ashcobb at 21:56:34 Monday October 20 2003
TCMP. I was sitting just behind the bench and was appalled with the negativity from someone 2-3 rows behind me in the second half. It was particularly vitriolic when Carruthers was substituted. I am pleased to report a number of people turned on the individual recognising Carruthers had been injured which probably explained his withdrawal. I had my 6 year old with me and I would have been appalled by the language he was hearing but by that time he was fast asleep. Summed up the second half I think.
Sealo at 21:55:25 Monday October 20 2003
I prefer this so much more
Madrid Cobbler at 20:06:23 Monday October 20 2003
Given the number of injuries we seem to pick up, any initiative to reduce them must be welcome, so the new training ground sounds like a good idea. A sign of a more quiet and thoughtful management team perhaps?
Abington at 19:41:02 Monday October 20 2003
TCMP - I take your point!! However, I can remember the time when we used the ON's ground and facilities = two soccer pitches. No good??
Ray at 19:27:12 Monday October 20 2003
I dont have any problem refreshing.
LH at 18:34:36 Monday October 20 2003
TCMP. Appreciate all that but do you not think that the level of quite audible swearing has increased in the last few months ?
Maybe its related to some of the rubbish we have watched ,but I would like to think that at least the Club is aware of a growing problem and would consider being a bit more proactive in doing something.
I'm not being prudish ,just wish I could take the kids in the West Stand and not feel that the next volley of swearing is just round the corner.
TCMP at 18:12:41 Monday October 20 2003
Abington, we are not training on the pitch at Franklins Gardens!! We are sharing the training ground (The grass is short and the ground is soft) The Moulton pitch was too hard and we risked injuries continuing to use it. CC and JD made the decision and found ann alternative within days so fair play to them. LH they are not so much swearing but just being annoying with their negative comments, as was said below if there is another club who have witnessed the manager being shouted at at his first home game then I would like to know where. Still to hell with them, all it needs is for those of us who care to have a word in their shell like and tell em it's not on, either that or as I said below I will arrange for them to repeat their criticism face to face with those who were on the end of it and see if they still feel as stongly. I would guess though that they simply get off on being known as miserable gits and therefore do it on purpose.
LH at 17:50:03 Monday October 20 2003
On a positive , what superb free kick from Smith on Friday. Class player and a good signing.
LH at 17:46:48 Monday October 20 2003
TCMP. Following on from your comment regarding moaners in the West Stand , if these 'Supporters' are swearing surely they could at be least warned by a steward about their language. Its something I feel the Club should be a bit more proactive about. I sometimes take the kids and without prompting they ask if they are going in the stand where Clarence is or the swearing stand (West stand). If thats the impression my Under 10's have then its no wonder it must be difficult persuading the floating fan to bring his family along. I have no problem with people voicing there displeasure or frustrations but F & blinding does create the wrong atmosphere . Need any proof , just see
the amount of kids at the Saints. The Club must have some powers they can employ to try to stop the pesistant few. TCMP I would welcome your comment on above.
Abington at 17:31:59 Monday October 20 2003
I agree TCMP - there has got to be less complaining and more support. The newsome twosome have got to have the chance to assess before action. Here's a couple of positives. Am I right in understanding we have approached the Gardens to use their pitch for training? If so I can now understand why we fade away in the second half. If we haven't got a decent training ground no wonder we are half fit. Franklins Gardens is not an option - the pitch is set up to play a different game. The grass is cut longer, the pitch is heavily watered, and because of the line-out/srimmaging taking place along the touchline there is a pitted area which cannot be rolled out. To come back to Sixfields will be like playing away every game. Secondly, we desperately need a target man to help Smithy out. Richards didn't win a ball on Friday, and arrives too late for crosses. We have no chance of getting goals until we can find a Howard or a Gabbiadini. Thirdly, could the coaching staff discourage passing the ball to the opposition in our own penalty area. Fourthly, could Harper be given the Key to the Borough for saving us a point. He pulled off at least three incredible saves.
Badger at 17:12:49 Monday October 20 2003
Not much singing on Friday night....even when we scored..... Everybody around me just sat there, it was like being in a morgue..... There's more singing at Irchester sports field on a Sunday morning......come on lads cheer up....let have a few more songs.....but please not ....If you all hate the borough' clap your hands.....
TCMP at 17:09:08 Monday October 20 2003
Beds Cobbler and RSM, Colin Calderwood was always our first choice, from the moment we interviewed and chased his references we knew we wanted to bring him to Sixfields. We also wanted to take the pressure off of him in his first managers Job so always intended to bring in someone alongside to assist. Yes we looked at John Ward as well as John Deehan and others but We could not agree terms with Ward and felt that Deehan was a better option in respect of the balance between Colin as First Team Manager and John Deehan as Director of Football. It would not be correct to talk about salary negotiations in public but I am happy to say that some of the people we interviewed had a one way interview technique when it came down to negotiating saleries and others did themselves no favours with demands coming through agents. But CC was our man from the start and JD was just what we were looking for to complete the picture and both handled themselves well at interview and were upfrony with the club regarding their needs and what they could do for us. Hope this helps TC
Marvo at 16:55:49 Monday October 20 2003
As for the football. I wonder if Calderwood has even been here long enough to know what exactly he has got on the bench in reserve. We all know that Derek Asamoah is capable of a moment of magic (too rarely) but does Calderwood (yet)? If Derek hasn't shown anything in training to suggest he may be a match winner in the past week, you can hardly blame the new management team for not throwing him into the action. I believe the idea was to play a full game with the line-up selected so the manager could assess exactly what he had at hand. Like it or not, it is going to take a few weeks for the new boss to find his feet. He should be allowed that time before anybody starts to judge.
Marvo at 16:50:30 Monday October 20 2003
So nice to see this site back to it's best. Quick question for Ray, when I now press "Refresh" my computer says the page cant be refreshed. Does that mean we will have to log back in to keep up to date?
Anon at 16:23:37 Monday October 20 2003
DR4E at 16:21:54 Monday October 20 2003
I THINK IT'S GOING WELL TOO RAY
Dyl at 16:07:24 Monday October 20 2003
Ray, I think the new format is working well!
saint at 16:06:45 Monday October 20 2003
Richard at 10.58, what a disappointing comment, I didn't think football was about only going to games that you thought would be entertaining, I thought it was about supporting a club. I agree that certain aspects of current form are disappointing, but a Northampton fan has to deal with being disappointed. We spend a lot of time on here ridiculing Direones and their pathetic support, but our is not much better, for a club that's been in existance for nearly 110 years, we appear only to have a 'hardcore' of a couple of thousand true supporters that 'SUPPORT' the team through thick and thin, that arrive there on a Saturday, or Tuesday or whenever, with the express intention of encouraging and helping their team. If the supporters could just be a touch more patient in defeat and magnanamous in victory, show undying loyalty to the club, players and management we'd be doing a hell of a lot better.
LH at 15:59:38 Monday October 20 2003
I'm back as well (dont know if thats good or not ?)
Ray at 15:40:50 Monday October 20 2003
Hey - this is going well - maybe I was wrong about the passwords.
therealslimmartinw at 14:40:41 Monday October 20 2003
Ralph2, I think people would show patients if the calibre of manager we attracted the last two times was right. Colin Calderwood is a newcomer to the management game and clearly needs time to find his feet. But I would also be interested in the answer to George;s question about what happened to Wardy, because something happened there.
therealslimmartinw at 14:37:37 Monday October 20 2003
Sid, there has been a historical malaise for getting on players back and you are right when you say it should not happen when someone makes a mistake. The thing is that all this kind of abuse does is to inhibit players. If they try anything out of the ordinary and it doesnt come off it is likely someone will on his back. It happened to David Savage a lot and we have never really replaced his dribbling skills in the centre of midfield.
Beds Cobbler George at 13:41:33 Monday October 20 2003
OK OK so I was formnally George Bucks No1 Cobbler, but Ive now moved to Beds - hence my new name!!!!!! Anyway got a question for TCMP, kinda irrelevant really but would like to know the truth. WTony, was is the truth regarding John ward and his non appointment? Was CC 1st choice? Im 100% behind him whatever tho. Cant wait for tomorrow and off to the Orient at Sat 2
A Childs View at 13:31:02 Monday October 20 2003
Spot on Paddy - we need the claret back, that's why its all going wrong!! Now Scunny's shorts - that's what you call claret!! I liked their strip, much more like what our away strip should be. Response to JM - I certainly wasn't proposing that Low play centre midfield in a first team game, only a reserve game so as he gets a load of the ball and gets some confidence back. My instruction to Low would be don't move more than 2 yards from the touch line when you don't have the ball - definitely a wide player with a gift. I'd also argue that Chambers isn't first choice,he'll be dropped as soon as Gilly is fit. I like Chambers but he's young and could do with a rest, his initial impact has waned a bit - no criticism of him, I like what I see but think he needs careful handling - 17 and in a struggling side is bound to take it out of him over the course of a season. Personally I think we really miss Gilly, he was my player of the season last year above Harsley. Another match tomorrow and then have some time to follow the boys down in London on Saturday - hoorah for me!
paddington at 13:08:50 Monday October 20 2003
I went to my first game of the season recently and was immediately struck by the colour of the Cobbs kit. Am I mistaken in believing that the traditional rich claret has given way to something more akin to cheap red wine? It doesn't look like the normal colour to me. Apologies if this has already been debated ....
Macc Cobblers at 12:57:52 Monday October 20 2003
I agree with the comments re Hargeaves and Trollope - unfortunately I can see Hargreaves being the one that undeservedly loses out.
However, on Friday it was interesting that when Hargreaves was brought on for Carruthers, they put Hargreaves into the centre and pushed Trollope wide left.
Re Richards, I have to say that I like him - if he can just get that first goal I think that we will see a few more from him. I don't necessarily think that we need a target man, but we do need to get more people into the box to support the forwards.
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:21:16 Monday October 20 2003
ATFC - Dead right about Trollope and Hargrieves - I've been thinking that for months. They simply do not compliment each other. Also agree with Childs View - Richards and Smith unfortunately seem to be vying for the 'finisher' place in the forward line. We need a target man and fast! Ironically, in the past we have always had a targetman and no one to finish - now its vice versa. We need a strong spine - we are getting knocked off the ball and dispossed far to easily. Low is the ultimate confidence player, and unfortunately there are too many others in the team who either give you 9 out of 10 or 4 out of 10! And we all know what they are currently getting. By the way Ray, for what its worth I think you should keep the password system for contributors but allow people onto the site as 'guests' who just want to read the comments.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 11:46:20 Monday October 20 2003
Made it! I see the postings are getting longer! My opinion, for what it's worth, Hargreaves and Trollope both try and occupy the same space, so it's poinless having them both on the pitch at the same time. Low, lacking confidence or whatever his excuse, is not producing the goods. I'd rather see Dudfields effort or Asa's runs at right midfield. CC added an extra dimension playing wide left, better than playing at left back, but I have serious doubts about Doig. Isn't Tom Smith a left back? Finally, what was the point of putting Reeves on for 2 minutes?
No1Cobbler at 11:34:14 Monday October 20 2003
Does anyone agree that Mark Richards is crap and shouldn't play 90 mins. People all around me were calling for Dudfield to come on instead of Richards and he didn't Reeves came on for him in stoppage time bu which time to late to do anything
Simon at 11:28:29 Monday October 20 2003
If we lose tomorrow (god forbid), do you think we will have the pleasure of Village Boy on here with his never ending lines of "ha ha"?
Simon at 11:22:24 Monday October 20 2003
In theatrical circles, the North (Manchester, Glasgow, etc) are known for being the toughest audiences. Is there any other set of fans in the country that are as hard to please as we are when it comes to football? I'm sure that you would be hard pressed to find anyone (other than a Cobblers fan) who would be prepared to shout abuse at their own manager/coach on his home debut. Are we now known in football circles as the toughest set of fans to please?
Richard at 10:58:00 Monday October 20 2003
I went to the game with 7 friends, and I was confident we would get back to the passing football of the start of the season. But I was embarrassed by the long ball football we were playing and the lack of fight in the team, then we took off our best player (Carruthers) and waited too long to bring Asamoah into the game. We have players in attack (Smith, Richards, Low etc) who are all better with the ball played into feet, so why do we insist on hoofing the ball long. I will no be going on Tuesday as the football that we played was not what I would call entertaining. However, I will be back, but I think Calderwood needs a few weeks in training and a couple more games to judge all of his players. I will come back for our next 32 or 3 home games and if no improvement is shown then I will pick my games very carefully and probably wont be back this season. We have some good players at the club, why cant we play some decent football and make it worth while me paying out for the tickets.
Dumb Broad at 10:50:38 Monday October 20 2003
Yeah, why is that? why are the rules different for Football and Rugby Stadiums (standing and drinking?) i agree with TCMP as well for what its worth.
tiggerboy0301 at 10:29:57 Monday October 20 2003
The comments made here are quite justified. In this respect the negative comments are uncalled for and have no place at the present time. I think we all as fans need to put our 'hands in our pockets' and 'stand quietly and watch' for the forseeable future. Great news as well TCMP about the stadium. I have recently had the chance to attend Franklins Gardens and the facilities there are what the club should be aiming for. (Even if the rules for Football and Rugby Stadiums are very different(Standing and drinking in the stands))
Ralph2 at 10:05:05 Monday October 20 2003
Took the words out of my mouth TCMP.In my opinion, we have to look at Colin Calderwoods position differently than the previous two or more managers. On the whole, we have shown no patience with our managers recently and that has to change because it is partly the reason we are in this position. I'm not saying Wilko or Fenwick could have turned things round if they had had a season or two but Kevan Broadhurst may well have. It has been stated by the cardozas and the board that Calderwood will be staying with us the three years of his contract and I hope we honour that commitment. Tigger, I too was very frustrated on Friday by the lack of changes, I thought Low should have been replaced 10 mins into the second half and the long ball tactics were driving me nuts but having come away and taken into account other peoples opinions I agree, and I hope I am right, maybe Calderwood isn't the type that shouts and balls at the players and needs more time to see what the existing squad are capable of during a game when obviously under pressure. Nobody should be making vocal their thoughts after only one away game in charge. He didn't buy any of this squad and may be left wondering why some of them were bought in the first place. They should and will be given time to work with the players we have and even bring in one or two of their own.
Sid at 09:58:52 Monday October 20 2003
Only heard abuse for Trollope and Low on Friday, but annoyed me was these two players are easy targets. Firstly, Trollope was the only midfielder battling his heart out, throwing in challenges even out on the left wing. Secondly, every time Low got the ball I notcied that the forwards, the midfield and the defence did nothing to help him out. When Low ends up losing the ball, no-one has a go at Richards, Harsley or Chambers (for instance) for not getting into those positions that could help him and the team. It's about encouraging those players whenever they make a good pass or run, not slagging off those that happen to make a mistake. Meanwhile, Low and Asamoah are two very different players but Low was taken off margainally too late for Asa to make the sort of impression that would have seen him tear up the right. Good to see him back but overall CC and JD have a massive task on their hands to turn round the confidence.
TCMP at 09:36:03 Monday October 20 2003
Sorry tiggerboy but I have to disagree with you, you say " For starters in the 2nd half CC and JD barely said anything to the players on the pitch. They stood montionless, in fact CC had his hands in his pockets for most of the 2nd half. It never seemed to me and 'negative' man that anyone on the sideline had a clue of what to do differently." Now, is this a fair judgement call or could it be that JD and CC are simply observing what is going on so they know what needs changing? Could they have not said thier piece in the changing room at half time? Do you accept that they may have said to players "right go out there and prove yourselves"? Is football management all about shouting from the touchline? Are hands in the pocket a sign of poor management or cold hands? I am afraid that if you think it is o.k for "negative man" to have a go in what was JD and CC's first home game (which we did not lose) then you are part of the problem not the solution. Mk thanks for the comments and watch this space.
Sealo at 08:49:32 Monday October 20 2003
Must win tomorrow or the seasons a goner
MK Cobbler at 07:23:01 Monday October 20 2003
Thanks TCMP for the subtle update on ground developments. Like most supporters I am very anxious about this because this is the passport to a successful future on and off the pitch. I know dealing with any council and government organisation is a game of patience. Here's hoping. As for the mindless morons having a go at CC & JD I was far enough away not to hear but unbelievable.
therealslimmartinw at 00:14:18 Monday October 20 2003
It is incredible that we get people who feel they have the right to get on people's backs at a game. It's a bit like going to the theatre and someone behind you shouting: "Oy you can't f..ing act for toffee, get off the stage and bring on the understudy". I think they would be ejected. Sadly this behaviour is encouraged in football grounds and is part of football. It shouldnt be and I dont think anyone can honestly say they have not sworn out loud during a game. Even if it is just at the ref. Maybe if the stewards acted over wanton abuse consistently then things might be different. But then if you acted over swearing you would eject most of the fans who sing songs about Peterborough. We then get into the situation where you have to judge what abuse is acceptable and what isn't. No abuse is acceptable. Those that lost their rag at Wilko during Oxford's defeat, they would be kicked out as well. And many of those are ardent fans who under normal circumstances cheer the players on through thick and thin. It's a difficult one but I think if you are goingto stamp out abuse you have to set the standard and stamp it out universally.
tiggerboy0301 at 00:07:44 Monday October 20 2003
Now while I respect the opinions of many on this board including TCMP i have to say that many of you are out of order by saying that negative fans should be removed from the ground. I was sat only a few seats down from the person who was shouting 'negative' comments and i have to say that many of the comments he made to thoses around him in 'non shouting mode' where very valid.
For starters in the 2nd half CC and JD barely said anything to the players on the pitch. They stood montionless, in fact CC had his hands in his pockets for most of the 2nd half.
It never seemed to me and 'negative' man that anyone on the sideline had a clue of what to do differently.
Now i hope to be proven wrong on this subject (even if i hate being wrong) but at the minute this new partnership doesn't do anything for me.
Or put it this way, your the new person on the block. The previous person had problems that you feel you can solve. Now do you stand back and let the 'rot' continue or do you stamp your authority on the issue. Now look at CC and JD on friday night did they do this? Was anything noticably different in the style of play? Personal I agree was different but in other areas??? Comments are appricated and on this board (Cobblers Comments) demanded! :)
Ray at 23:16:43 Sunday October 19 2003
Well as this has only been going for 2 days - thats a neat trick. The other trick is to answer emails asking you to confirm your email address.
ajp at 22:35:30 Sunday October 19 2003
am i number 101 to sign up ray?
ajp at 22:33:48 Sunday October 19 2003
Hi guys, great to be back after havin to wait over three days for my email confirmation, i feel tuesday is a must win, del boy should be given a chance from the start, if nothin else it gives the crowd a bit of a lift,and he injects some uch needed life into the team, maybe in place of low! any thoughts??
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:20:45 Sunday October 19 2003
I wasn't.....COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Ray at 21:19:33 Sunday October 19 2003
There are still loads who havent confirmed their email address ....
Ray at 21:18:25 Sunday October 19 2003
It was Tony Capp.
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:14:56 Sunday October 19 2003
So who is the 100th sign up that is being welcomed. And just watch it come up before this post!!! COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Ray at 21:06:55 Sunday October 19 2003
I'd like to welcome our 100th sign up...
Ray at 21:03:51 Sunday October 19 2003
Maybe we should have a password system for the West Stand?
Simon at 20:54:03 Sunday October 19 2003
Thank you TCMP for speaking out about the morons who spent Friday evening abusing the coaching staff and players. I was sat in the West Stand Upper towards the north stand and had to put up a "fan" who spent the whole game shouting abuse at Trollope. No matter what Trollope did, good pass, bad pass, missed tackle, good tackle it made no difference. Why do these people bother attending? They don't appear to get any satisfaction from the game, just their constant moaning. I'd settle for a smaller but more comitted crowd.
back of the net at 20:41:06 Sunday October 19 2003
Why can't people be banned from the ground for being idiots? "The management reserves the right to alter or change the program and to refuse admission" So just find out who they were from studying CCTV footage and box office records and just ban them from buying anymore tickets. Simple. We won't lose any sleep over £34, not if it means the atmosphere is a little more positive
Badger at 20:20:30 Sunday October 19 2003
Ray.....Ok mate I understand.....it will be a big problem.... I knew how to post pics... rewriting of the page is possible but it's whether they can be bothered to do it for you and I expect it will cost a few £'s....I liked most of the pictures on the site especially the funny giffs.
Clarence at 20:20:28 Sunday October 19 2003
Hello Everyone!! A bit disappointed with Friday - first half was good but second half poor. On a positive note, thought Harper had an excellent game - thank god he saved the almost own goal from Trollope! If it had not been for Harper we could have easily lost. Think we should back Calderwood - after all he can't be any worse than Wilko etc! Looking forward to Tuesday and hopefully three points!
TCMP at 20:13:36 Sunday October 19 2003
Well found my way, Ray I agree with you that other postings are part and parcel of an unlimited board and in the past those who have abused the site have got fed up and gone away, so if it is possible for the Techno's to work out a compromise then lets hope we can reopen the channel, after all censorship only strenghens those with the weakest arguements and keeps out the good. However if there are a few people I would like to silence it would be the idiots who sit the West Stand ready to abuse everybody and anything at a moments notice. I don't know why they attend games in the first place if all they can do is shout abuse from the first whistle to the last. There were 2 such voices within earshot of the directors box on Friday and their behaviour was appalling. It was Calderwoods first home game and he had to put up with abuse from people whose footballing knowledge was as limited as their manners. One guy in front of us (behind the dug out) was on at the bench from the start and another to the left of the box (towards the North Stand) was calling for Subs from about half time. They seem to think that as they have paid their entrance fee that that gives the automatic right to pick the team and decide on the subs. Unfortunatly we can't kick people out for being ignorant or else these two would be barred, but it does annoy me that there are people who are not prepared to even give the new manager the luxury of his first home fixture before starting the abuse. If anyone knows who I am talking about then please have a word with them from me and I will arrange for them to be able to come down to the changing rooms after the game and repeat the abuse they give the players and management during the game direct to their faces. Any way rant over I just wanted to post to say that the next two to three weeks (maybe sooner) are going to be critical to the future of our club and if the hard work that has been put in bears fruit then we could get an early Christmas Present, everyone is putting in 200% at the moment and I know that even with the abuse that we will turn things around on the pitch and have an exciting agenda developing off it. I thought Friday 1st half we looke better and should have killed the game (would have done if Smiths header had not hit the bar)but in the second we stepped off the gas and allowed ourselves to be pressed far too much. JD and CC are still getting to know the playing staff and it will be a couple of weeks before they have the full picture but I am impressed with both the amount of work that is going in and their determination to get it right. Any knockers should take heed that we are in this for the duration, we will succeed and the better the support we can muster the easier it will be. We are not asking for slavish praise but simply that we all pull as one and move forward together, as for the two idiots in the west stand on Friday I can arrange for them to move forward together if they wish, they only have to ask.
Ray at 19:58:59 Sunday October 19 2003
In fact the password allows access to the page - without a complete rewrite of frames within frames its not possible just to have "view" mode.
Ray at 19:57:36 Sunday October 19 2003
In fact the script of the guestbook is written to specifically exclude all HTML - it just so happens that some bright spark found a way to circumvent it and everyone just copied - sheep that they are..
Badger at 19:27:58 Sunday October 19 2003
Ray..... Surely it’s possible to put the logon code in your site so you only have to logon if you post. That way anybody can view the site but can only post if you logon. It’s just a matter on putting the logon code in the right place. It would only mean a small rewrite of the posting page……...on the picture issue … the posting page must not allow any HTLM code at all, this will stop anybody posting pictures of giffs.....surely the boffs at ukonline.co.uk have the know how to do this???.
paddington at 19:25:37 Sunday October 19 2003
Ray, I 'm glad to see you've moved to clean up the board. I still believe the format of CC is the best around and hopefully the old contributors will gradually return.
therealslimmartinw at 18:35:11 Sunday October 19 2003
It took Hull a few seasons to get their act together before striking gold with Peter Taylor, a manager with undoubted talent who was proven.
Dave (ex-Hartwell Cobbler) at 18:32:57 Sunday October 19 2003
Just back from Spain so missed Friday's game. Interesting to read the good comments on the game here. Must say, Ray, I think the site will be all the better for having the log-on system. Hope we can now look forward to good, honest and sensible debate about the club and its future without it being peppered with silly and often irrelevant chatter. It looks like we are still very much in the building stage on the field and promotion this season is looking very unlikely unless we can get the team and tactics settled and get on a run. It took Hull City a couple of seasons to get their act together.
back of the net at 17:49:09 Sunday October 19 2003
injured in training
Sealo at 17:29:30 Sunday October 19 2003
Where was Reid on Friday??
Eaststander at 14:42:57 Sunday October 19 2003
Thanks Ray for clearing this board up. I would much rather loose a few genuine visitors that have to sift through all the rubbish we have had to put up with. It has certainly stopped me bothering to look for a while. Just a quick question- I arrived late on Friday and didn't hear of any reason why Reid was not playing surely he was only suspended for 1 wasn't he?
Marvo at 13:21:16 Sunday October 19 2003
And finally for me on this subject. Ray: I have no objection to other supporters from rival teams posting on here either, as long as they are prepared to register. If they are not, the only reason can be that they want to post something, how shall we say, undesirable. If that's the case, we are better of without them. I have registered for almost all of the second and third division boards. I don't tend to post, mainly read, however registering wasn't a problem and nor should it be for most law abiding folk.
therealslimmartin at 12:22:37 Sunday October 19 2003
Marvo 100% agreement. Agree to disagree on other things, but 100% on that. Register to go on but make CC free to view for others. Fundamental!!! Great idea. Although it was a negative... ha ha
therealslimmartinw at 12:21:17 Sunday October 19 2003
Rob, I get enthusiastic about lots, particularly now, but enthusiasm comes in terms of pointing out things that are wrongs and things that are right. Because you controversially point out things you feel are wrong, doesn't make it negative. If we had got rid of Wilko before the summer and got a more competent pair of hands I feel we would be in a better position. That's a positive. If you don't believe in being cruel to be kind then you wont take to this. I was totally and and fundamentally against Wilko's appointment based on his ability and how he was chosen. A failed manager took over our club, straight up. And I remained negative about that because to me even with money he was not going to achieve. It wasn't a matter of opinion his poor record spoke for itself. Carlisle fans still have nightmares about his time in charge, and they have a lot to have nightmares about. Yet some, it seemed felt he should have stayed even after he finally went. I think privately the typical knowledgeable Cobblers fan at that time were seriously doubtful about his abilities, but unlike me were willing to live with it for a while. I think that was a mistake. I really think we are now suffering for delaying his departure. We have a new management team who have to start from scratch with players bought by someone else but I just wish they had been in place in when we were making the decisions last season. As fans we love new faces, but I see few clubs which drastically change their personnel the way we did at that level do well right away. I do think we went too far down the road of new is best without thinking, hey Gabby may be good for another season and give some experience in the dressing room. We have little by way of someone to look up to in the dressing room. It helps to have a Gabby around for the benefit of young players. As it is helping Wolves to have a Gascogine around, even though he isnt playing. We can argue with whether the new men are the best men for the job, but there is no questioning the potential. I said at the start that we should be patient with them because they are entering a difficult situation and we cannot expect promotion in my view. Consolidation is not something fans shout from the terraces. Its too big a word, for a start. But it's all we can reasonably now expect under the circumstances.
Ray at 12:17:32 Sunday October 19 2003
Personally, I didnt mind the postings from other supporters - that is all part and parcel of the game and made Cobblers Comments what it was - which is why I would prefer to revert to the open forum - but I really don't have the time to police this 24 hours a day I know the technical guys are working on the image problem and hopefully we should have a solution soon. Do I feel a poll coming on?
Marvo at 12:12:59 Sunday October 19 2003
I agree to an extent with Realslimmartinw (Now there's a first) but I believe a solution is easy. Many of the other boards are free to view, you only need to register if you wish to post. This is surely the way forward. That way everybody gets to see what is being discussed, but you need to register to post. Problem solved!
Ray at 12:12:19 Sunday October 19 2003
support@ukonline.co.uk
therealslimmartinw at 12:00:28 Sunday October 19 2003
Ray, how do you contact UKOL, because I for one would send them a message about the images situation today. The great thing about CC unfettered is that it was free to everyone. Most people know who the regulars are. CC was never just about discussion it was was forum that anyone could look at and view, that includes the club, without having to contribute. It was a bit like having fans in the crowd, sure there are people who are violently vociferous and you dont agree with them and you wish they would go away because you feel they know nothing or are ignorant, or whatever, but you wouldnt want to have a situation where they were kicked out the ground. It's just so wrong to exclude people because you don't like their writing style or they may talk about something you dont like. That's censorship. And there is nobody that can be the arbiter of who should and should not be allowed to post. Unless of course it it is abusive. If there was a no swearing, no pix rule, that's cool. But I know some on here including myself would probably ban certain people now on here because they fundamentally look at the club from a different perspective. And that would be wrong. The likes of TCMP and people within the club know they are going to have to deal with a lot of nonsense but there was never any question that between the silliness and abuse there were really interesting points. I fear, and I hope its not the case, that if CC is under a cloak for too long it might be forgotten about. Yes you will get a few regulars but I remember CC2 and it just didnt work in my view. Well actually the proof is in the number of people who now use it.
jm at 11:31:42 Sunday October 19 2003
surely we had two first choice players in the back 4 on friday night? willmot and chambers, both have been ever-present when fit so i guess that constitutes first choice?. disagree with low being put in centre midfield, purely on the basis of how many times he is caught in possession,or loses the ball when trying to go round someone. this is what he does best when it comes off, but of late he has not been consistent enough. get him to concentrate on this in training and he will be back to his best....on the wing! i think we just need to teach our midfielders how to put a ball through to richards and smithy on the floor for them to run on to, we have the battlers in there but we really do need a player with vision so these two can benefit. it's not rocket science but the amount of balls played in the air is getting ridiculous,we've seen that richards can latch onto a through ball(on the floor) and shrug of challenges so lets work on that, the lad is desperate for a goal so lets give him the service he deserves and thrives on.
A Childs View at 10:35:04 Sunday October 19 2003
Oooohhh - bit different in here now isn't it - glad I got let in, I feared I might be one of the undesirables!! Go for the password I say and keep it there. Officials at the club will still come on and it should elevate the level of comment - in truth its been pants of late!! Loads of work to do with the team, obervations and recommendations after Friday for CC as follows - 1) get a target man on loan, the midfield isn't good enough to play through and of the 60 long balls we pumped forward only 4/5 stuck with our front two. Too much possession lost and too much pressure put on a defence with only one 1st choice player in it - bound to concede in the face of those stats. 2) Richards is going the way of Sam Parkin unless we find a target man, he's clearly a finisher and not the man to challenge for the first ball - when Smithy played the one flick on he made all match Richards was right on it and through on goal, that's how we'll get the best out of him. In the 3rd division I think Smith and Richards are playing for the same place alongside a target man which we don't have - makes you think about Stampy really, didn't like his style but in a lower division he could have done that role for us, his goals per minute on the pitch record was not that bad for us and is great for Chester! 3) Have a word with Josh Low, I think Josh could be a great player for us but his confidence his clearly in pieces, I wonder how much of that is to do with Richard Hill? I'd ask him if he wants to play in the reserves for a couple of games to get some confidence back and maybe play him in centre midfield so he sees a lot of ball, he needs to remember he can really play this game and not be scared of the ball, that said, the team need to pass it to him. It's important we fans don't get on his back, he's a player who needs a cuddle and confidence boosting, ie Heskey for Liverpool. 4) The great man Sammo is sadly past it, too slow and not that commanding in the air any more. I salute you Sammo - a true Cobblers great!! 5) Carruthers looked quality in left mifield, forget using him as a left back and get him back in at his preferred position. 6) Asamoah has the potential to be a great player, give him at least 30 mins in the second half. In a good team he'll be deadly and is what we need to unlock stubborn and tiring 3rd division defences. 7) Buy a couple of central midfielders, this is where we struggle - Trolly, Hargreaves, Reeves, Harsley etc are all too similar - neither solid defensive midfielders nor creative midfielders - Burgess is the closest thing we've got and we need more in this department. 8) Willmot and Reid is a class centre half partnership - no more work needed there, this area is fine! 9) If Harper can play consistently like he did on Friday he's definitely ahead of Thommo, I like Glynn but he needs to be commanding - Blythy should be coaching him to mouth off a bit more and boss his defence. That's it, ran out of useful suggestions now! I'm hoping CC will see these things as I do and start to make the changes we need. Still dissappointed we didn't get Wardy, I'm right behind CC but he's unproven again - here's to hoping he comes good! Surely we'll beat Kidderminster on Tuesday - they really are crap!
MK Cobbler at 08:41:18 Sunday October 19 2003
Pondering on Friday's match our 2 greatest problems seem to me to be in midfield and in finding someone to partner Smith. There seemed to be a lot of anxiety amongst the players, simple passes being half hit and then a tendency to hoof the ball when under pressure in the second half. A dominant ball winning midfield player is a must. Where Wilko may have got it fundamentally wrong is putting together a team that didn't have quite enough seasoned campaigners at this level.
Rob at 05:56:01 Sunday October 19 2003
I agree with Marvo on this one in that pictures weren't the problem. There is no issue with putting in a user name and password to be able to view a message board that is Cobblers related and devoid of the offensive and purile rubbish which had become commonplace here.The sexist taunts and demeaning nature of the "comments" directed at Bexxy were totally unacceptable. To remove the password mode would be ridiculous given the total turn around in atmosphere and topic since its introduction. A free to air messageboard is fine, go talk about rape, wife beating, hooliganism,racism bullying and a smattering of Cobbs wherever you like but don't forget to swear, post sexually demeaning photos and talk about everything un-Cobblers orientated. To put in parameters such as a password is a bit like dealing with your children you don't do it because you don't want them to have something, you do it to allow them to play in an environment that is safe from all of the things I have mentioned. I'm not comparing anyone who posts on here to children just suggesting that as in life a free reign doesn't always work.Oh and MartinW I was harsh in suggesting all of your posts were negative, for that I apologise, I recall when Gabbi arrived and also your enjoyment at the new appointments. Perhaps it is your posting style being based on your professional life always seeking a response that you can generate further discussion upon that drew my remark. I again applaud Ray for introducing the new measures and feel whole heartedly that the removal of the new initiative would be a mistake.PS if UK Online can't tell you how to stop the posting of jpg's on your site Ray I suggest you query their technical ability....
Marvo at 03:48:01 Sunday October 19 2003
Hi, me again. As you can see I have been reinstated. Now Mr NT FCOK. The reason I was asking about ISP numbers was I couldn't see how people could get away with some of the things that were said on here without redress. Either you can be tracked and dealt with, or you can't. Obviously some people believed they could do and say what they like. I would have loved to have found out the name of somebody who said something personal on here about me but that is now by the by. I'm sure the coward won't risk it now that Ray has an email address for them. As far as my byline on the official board, anybody who has seen me post knows that I was the first person to introduce "shuffle" as a way of clearing away the rubbish from the front page. It is as simple as that. Thanks for telling me what you responded to my question though, I will look back to find who you are should the official board ever return. I post on several boards, including Hotelender and 606 and I defy you to find an example of me abusing anybody. Now on to the login. I hope you keep it Ray. To my way of thinking, a lot of the pictures on here were good. At first there were a lot of Cobblers related pictures, and some quite funny ones. I don't see the problem with pictures, as long as they stay within the bounds of decency and anybody that posted one "over the top" so to speak could now be banned. having said that, I understand you do not want pictures on here and therefore I will abide by your rules. Can I say though, finally, it will be a sad day if you do decide to allow people to post without logging on as this board will then be back in the hands of the idiots and Cobblers Comments will be back to square one. How any of you can regard a picture as more offensive than some of the remarks made on here, like those about fellow contributer Bexxy, beggars belief!
Ray at 02:52:51 Sunday October 19 2003
If UKOL solve the problem of the images - I intend to return to non-password mode.
therealslimmartinw at 02:43:25 Sunday October 19 2003
Incidentally, the Rob at 12:21:48 Thursday October 16 2003, which complained about CC leading to its present situation may have thought he has done Cobblers Comments a service by complaining about the content of the old board. I completely sympathise with the sentiments. But I don't with the outcome. Surely the site could have been left 'free to air' by merely cutting the ability to post pictures on the message board. There must be a way of doing that. The other content, while clearly annoying and irritating, is something that has been part the site for years, you live with the anonymous posts and the best thing to do is to ignore them. I keep saying to myself. Is there anyway this site can be put back where it belongs... in the real world of cyberspace.
therealslimmartinw at 02:28:29 Sunday October 19 2003
Lets hope the board remains tolerant of all views, negative, positive or both, bearing in mind that one person's positive is another's negative and visa versa. Anyway, you are more than aware in the past week that our media, of which I have to confess I am a part has chosen to describe recent on and off the field events as a shameful period of the English game. Why? Well the following verbatim reasons are to blame. Check this. The facts are: (1) a Leeds United player has been arrested in the city in connection with an alleged serious sexual assault on a woman; (2) Scotland Yard is still investigating up to seven men, some of them said to be Premiership players, over an alleged gang rape at a London hotel; (3) Craig Bellamy, "the £ 50,000-a-week Wales and Newcastle United footballer", was fined £ 750 for shouting abuse outside a Cardiff nightclub; (4) the England players were threatening to go on strike because Rio Ferdinand of Manchester United had been dropped for failing to provide a urine sample to drug-testers. Some papers added to the pot that (5) Kevin Kyle of Sunderland and Scotland had been held by the police after a fracas outside a Turkish restaurant in Stranraer; and that (6) Manchester United might be taken over by two Irish businessmen who are in dispute with the manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, over the ownership of a racehorse. Furthermore, (7) the West Bromwich Albion left-back, Arnold Schwarzenegger, has been elected governor of California; and (8) the manager of Northampton Town, Iain Duncan Smith, is in danger of dismissal due to the team's poor results. Yes you read that right IAIN DUNCAN SMITH. That will explain the jobs for the boys on the board then. Sorry, couldn't resist a bit of satire.
Sealo at 01:46:55 Sunday October 19 2003
I know there have been posts but
nsb at 22:37:37 Saturday October 18 2003
thankyou ralph! we aim to please!
Ralph2 at 22:36:22 Saturday October 18 2003
Thanks for sorting the site,Ray. I hadn't looked at CC's words from that angle nsb, thank you for that it changed my view.
nsb at 21:41:15 Saturday October 18 2003
wow, this site has improved a million times over since the logon was introduced, no poop, just comments worth reading :) I must say, having read the post match reaction, calderwood would appear to be a well spoken fellow who choses his words carefully, for example, there was no "ill sack the lot of you" and he didnt slag richards off for missing chances, he said it showed that he was getting in good positions.... this is how to motivate players, nt by slagging them off!
Dumb Broad at 20:28:03 Saturday October 18 2003
WOW....first time at sixfields since Atkins sacked and I was totally mesmerised... Low had a great first half, was mightily impressed with most of the game - there were a few around me though that weren't quite so excited!! Why oh why do people have to complain? Give CC a chance - perlease!! This is a very positive time for the Cobblers - all good things come to those who wait and I know we've waited a very long time. All good things start with the letter C.... Cardoza, Calderwood, Clarke (how many?), Cobblers, Comments,
Gibbo at 18:47:27 Saturday October 18 2003
Marvo is innocent
NT FCOK at 16:11:01 Saturday October 18 2003
Just arrived : not sure about no spontaneous comments though, whats the diffrence between cc1 an cc2 ? it was funny to see MARVO get the chop though...he seems to be asking alot about isp number's for some time now and around the time that someone was putting my name falsly on the board, Marvo was doing the rounds , I mentioned in my next board statement that "it was easy to track someone through his/her isp No#" then low and behold he was asking all kinds of question's on the ntfc official board about "is it possible to track someone" and "what does ISP mean and do" with the responces of "why do you want to know and have you been a naughty boy", immediately after that it stopped? Im not saying that Marvo was the culprit at the time but he did have a very opposing view to mine about the wilko situation and on the official board he underwrites his name with "its my Duty to get rid of all the sh~t on the board" or words to that effect.... so perhaps its good in that way to logon ..
therealslimmartinw at 13:57:27 Saturday October 18 2003
Rob, point of order. I don't think you can justify the statement that I am looking solely for negative points, unless you mean the Wilko situation and that was a completely different matter. In any case, if somone wants to come on to CC and be negative and has a point so be it. In fact your statement in itself was what you would term negative. I would hate to think that a login system meant that CC was not a place for lively debate and discussion, otherwise it would be deadly dull and nobody would come on.
Rob at 13:12:25 Saturday October 18 2003
Point being I guess MartinW that with the volume of anonymous abuse, Ray was unable to police the filth. He has stood up and been counted as someone who has the best interests of all at heart.He can now as he has already done cancel the accounts of those abusers, something that would be impossible under an anon identity.Stop if you don't mind, finding negative reports everywhere you look and lets look to a new beginning both at Sixfields and it's finest information highway CC#1.
therealslimmartinw at 12:29:34 Saturday October 18 2003
Steve, yeah but i remember CC2 was set up for the same reason and it did not take off. People are reluctant to go through all the login stuff usually. Puts them off and the great thing about CC without login is simply that. Very sad turn of events. CC has been a NTFC institution for years. Been in existence longer than any manager, not difficult, and it would be awful if it just became ghettoised. The other thing is, how does Ray vet those that come on. Just because there is login access doesnt mean people wont use bogus names.
Ray at 12:21:24 Saturday October 18 2003
Hereford or Exeter
Steve at 12:17:35 Saturday October 18 2003
Yes - but which non-league side? And well done to Ray for sorting out the site. I'm far more likely to contribute now that the saddos have gone, and I'm sure others feel the same.
DavCobbler at 12:17:34 Saturday October 18 2003
Hello again all..........................and thank you Ray
Ray at 12:06:21 Saturday October 18 2003
Yes - Im very depressed about it.
therealslimmartinw at 11:59:13 Saturday October 18 2003
ray, that is a real shame
Simon at 11:57:33 Saturday October 18 2003
I read on another message board that someone sitting near the dugout was giving Calderwood loads of stick! I was born and bred in this town but I'll never understand the attitude of some of its people. Let's give the man a chance. On a lighter note I thought Low had a great first half. When he has the ball at his feet and he's running at defenders he looks class. In the second half he disappeared and seemed to struggle but I think he's a "confidence player". We've got to show some patience with Low (and others)and maybe then hopefully things will turn around.
Ray at 11:49:55 Saturday October 18 2003
I agree completely - I have resisted passwords for the last 6 years as this was intented to be a spontaneous message board without the usual restrictions. I feel that we may have lost what was an important means of expressing views.
therealslimmartinw at 11:35:25 Saturday October 18 2003
Logins are a good idea to get rid of undesirables, but the question about password entries is that it is not as easy to access for the casual viewer, those that may not want to post all the time. There is no doubt that the board is seen by those that matter at the club. Without a login they may not be able to see what people think. On to things cobblers. Its good to see that we are drawing games that we were previously losing. But it looks seriously like if we are going to get promotion it wont be this season.
Ray at 11:34:50 Saturday October 18 2003
OK folks - the system appears to be working fine. This are the rules! NO swearing, NO images, NO anonymous postings. I'm having to pay for the password protection service - any abuse of the service will result in its being withdraw and Cobblers Comments closed.
The Saint at 09:56:32 Saturday October 18 2003
Away to a non league side in the LDV, hardly a great draw !!!
Sealo at 09:50:19 Saturday October 18 2003
The classic game of two halves..........we just really need to learn to kill off a game as we had enough chances in the first half to get a second goal..........we didn't and then we all must have known what was gonna potentially happen. I thought Harsley looked to be getting back to last years form and makes me wonder what would have happened this season if Richards and Harsley had started every game. 1 win, 3 draws and 1 narrow defeat (away to Cheltnham) when Harsley has started and no bad defeats
jm at 02:15:35 Saturday October 18 2003
errrrr,well we started pretty well and it seemed as though a few players were actually playing for their place in the starting 11,however it kind of went pete tong when we took the lead!! i can see that cc is promoting the passing game(a.k.a our start to the season) but some of our boys had a problem adapting and ending up putting in some horrendous 'hospital balls' or leaving the pass well short,or astray. their equaliser seemed to start from a move where luke was given a bad ball and ended up losing possession because of it, even though it was a freak goal i could sense it coming(,well,its become a habit hasn't it!!). overall i cant remember us mustering a shot on goal all second half? i still think richards and smith are our best pairing however i fear unless we start to feed them service we may well never find out their true potentiial....great to see delboy on and he certainly put himself about tonight,but with just 8 minutes left he done all he can to impress in such a short display...im not to dissapointed by tonight,i can see the future is bright,the future is claret & white.
nsb at 00:58:28 Saturday October 18 2003
what was the match like tonight then? for us naughty people who couldnt go :)
Rob at 00:02:12 Saturday October 18 2003
Me too Ralph and can I say to Ray many thanks for sorting out this great forum. It has been a credit to you and to see it going where it was headed was both worrying and sad. Nice One Ray !!
Ralph at 18:33:07 Friday October 17 2003
Well I've arrived safely!
Simon at 17:15:04 Friday October 17 2003
This maybe a silly question but do we have to "sign out" as well in?
Simon at 17:12:33 Friday October 17 2003
Well, I've finally managed to get on CC....Yay! I'm going to be really interested to see whether some of our country cousins bother to still post on here. Football is about inter club rivalry, so I hope fans of other clubs take time out to join and post on here but hopefully it'll stop idiots leaving endless lines of "ha ha ha etc etc" and other stupid posts. Good luck Ray with Cobblers Comments but more importantly Good Luck Cobblers tonight.
nsb at 16:12:06 Friday October 17 2003
A new era for the cobblers with calderwood and deehan, and a new era for cobbler comments too, hopefully with no more nobrainers (except for me ha ha!) Looking forward to some points tonight, onwards and upwards!
badger at 15:36:20 Friday October 17 2003
United Front.....Yes...I would like to see Richards up front with Smith and Dudfield on the right side of midfield? I still think that Richards is our best option to partner Smith. I have watched him play for the reserves and he played very well.
Richard at 15:24:04 Friday October 17 2003
I just hope and prey we can pass the ball on the floor, we have some of the better players on the floor in this league and if we do that we can still go up. This is one of the reasons we never have a real goalscorer can its just hoofed up to them to chase and fight foor, rather than sliding them in with neat passes.
Badger at 15:14:50 Friday October 17 2003
not so Dumb Broad......Good for you gal... I hope it's a good game tonight..... and a near full house.... I'm going if I can get the shopping done early....wellingboro' Tesco I'm on my way.
United Front at 15:12:38 Friday October 17 2003
Good afternoon everyone. Would anyone else like to see Richards up front with Smith and Dudfield on the right side of midfield? I still think that Richards is our best option to partner Smith, its just his confidence was hit when he got criticised by Wilko after missing a few chances at York - at least he got into the positions. There is nothing I would love more than for Richards to get off the mark tonight (and us to get 3 points naturally).
Badger at 15:09:50 Friday October 17 2003
That didn't take long..... Ray. Can you tell who posted what ????
Dumb Broad at 15:09:25 Friday October 17 2003
yep - going to the game tonight - first time at sixfields since Atkins was sacked - not going with the boss though - lookin forward to it.
Ray at 15:03:17 Friday October 17 2003
Well - thats the first deleted account....
Marvo at 15:00:41 Friday October 17 2003
Richard at 14:57:46 Friday October 17 2003
So anyone got a clue what the team will be tonight, for what its worth I will go for (from left to right)
Harper, Carruthers, Willmott, Reid, Chambers, Hargreaves, Harsley, Trollope, Low, Smith, Richard. Subs thommo, reeves, dudfield, asamoah, sammo.
I am a bit worried as it is basically the same midfield that got us relegated last year, i would like to see us start with trollope and reeves in centre midfield with dudfield and low on the wings, like in the first game of the season. ok we lost 1-0 but played some good passing football, i hope we can keep it on the floor tonight.
Badger at 14:51:30 Friday October 17 2003
Hello not so Dumb Droad....... I hope you are going to the game tonight???..... with your boss??......only kidding
Ray at 14:24:14 Friday October 17 2003
At present this is exactly as it was before - the only change is that you now need a password to get here.
Dumb Broad at 14:13:19 Friday October 17 2003
Hello - did it all on my own. maybe not so dumb?
Badger at 14:02:37 Friday October 17 2003
Ray... can pics still be posted ??? ......It will be interesting to see who comes on here now that we all have to sign in...... I wonder if we will see any of the old names ???..... very interesting.
mickeybluff at 13:57:58 Friday October 17 2003
Good afternoon, not been on this message board before...but have supported the cobblers for many years and have read supporters comments on here on many occasions in the last few months.
Dyl at 13:51:22 Friday October 17 2003
Hello - good to be here
Badger at 13:49:57 Friday October 17 2003
Well done Ray.......Pics all deleted......Cobblers are back in action.
Ray at 13:36:56 Friday October 17 2003
Thanks.
Marvo at 13:34:35 Friday October 17 2003
Hi, or should that be hello. Anyway, let's hope this is the start of a new begining! Good luck Ray.
Ray at 13:30:24 Friday October 17 2003
Works then :-)
Rob Dunkley at 13:25:51 Friday October 17 2003
Hello
Ray at 13:17:38 Friday October 17 2003
Please say hello when you manage to log in.
Ray at 13:09:40 Friday October 17 2003
Test
Sean at 12:17:59 Friday October 17 2003
The quotes on the official site from the Boss seem very determined, professional and focused. I am working this evening but hope the match is a positive start for the new regime. Good too to see the Cobblers and the Saints working together over the training ground. I may even go back to supporting the Saints - except for when they play London Irish!
Dave Bowen Stan at 11:40:23 Friday October 17 2003
Is CC2 not good enough then?
Superstars at 11:22:43 Friday October 17 2003
What did you reckon...........spent a fortune on the faciities didnt they........800 metres around a marina.......i ask you!!!
Dumb Broad at 10:42:18 Friday October 17 2003
Don't Northampton Borough Council own Sixfields?
Ray at 10:37:40 Friday October 17 2003
I regret to announce that Cobblers Comments in its present format will shortly cease to exist. This unfortunate action has been brought about by the abuse of the services by no-brain posters. If you wish to participate in the new Cobblers Comments then please email me with a user name and password.
Maybe at 10:25:42 Friday October 17 2003
...and isn't the Rat & Parrot close to the Guildhall - I smell a rat (and a parrot)
Anon at 10:22:56 Friday October 17 2003
Maybe they are rescheduling their council tax arrears.... ?
Dumb Broad at 09:29:53 Friday October 17 2003
TCMP & David Cardoza were seen earlier entering The Guildhall - home of Northampton Borough Council...... whasssssat all about I wonder?
Perhaps at 09:26:17 Friday October 17 2003
Rat and Parrot, I know its a long shot but perhaps they were having a drink!!
Anon at 09:13:31 Friday October 17 2003
Maybe they were having a drink?
Rat and Parrot at 08:52:08 Friday October 17 2003
Cardoza an Tony Clarke were in the rat and Parrot last night, what was that all about I wonder?
Steve at 08:49:54 Friday October 17 2003
Can anyone tell me this week's password for the Daily Telegraph Fantasy Football?
Had emuff at 08:46:33 Friday October 17 2003
Great to see so much much muff on this site now.............
Dave at 08:21:52 Friday October 17 2003
I was a big fan of Marco's but I believe it was right to release him when we did. I think the main reason for letting him go was Marco has too much to say either on the training ground or in the dressing room. Wilkinson couldn't handle it and the pair of them didn't see eye to eye, in the end this difference of opinion was to the detriment of morale so one had to go and Wilko was boss, so the rest is history. Wilkinson didn't do much during his tenure but one thing he did do was sign Martin Smith who in my opinion has what it takes to be every bit as influential as Marco, just wait and see. In the meantime I wish Marco all the success he can muster in the twilight of his career, we all move on!
Wilf at 08:10:39 Friday October 17 2003
TAG - There has been talk of new signings, David Cardoza said that money would be made available. But Calderwood has done the right thing by giving every player the opportunity to prove themselves before talking of new signings. It's okay for us to say we need a goal scorer or a midfielder but Calderwood has to see for himself, assess the playing staff and go from there. Having been a little deflated when I heard the appointment(s) I have to admit to be being mightily impressed after hearing him talk at the Trust meeting. I am sure CC will know where he's at after the Kidderminster game. We may not make promotion this season but I am sure CC and Deehan will play their part in ensuring the club is not only sound off the pitch but also on the pitch.
You must be joking! at 06:21:46 Friday October 17 2003
Oh well Tag, better resign him. I mean, 5 goals, 3 of which were penalties, is obviously a sign of a player on form.
Tag at 01:30:26 Friday October 17 2003
On and for those eeeeeejits that wrote off Gabby, u know who you are, its mentioned below, how about this article from the Evening Gazette in the north east of england i saw at the weekend... VETERAN MARCO USES HIS HEAD TO MAKE A POINT When Neale Cooper swooped to sign veteran striker Marco Gabbiadini for Hartlepool in the summer there were a few raised eyebrows. The 35-year-old had just been released by Northampton Town following the Cobblers' relegation to the Third Division and in the twilight of his career.
But the former Darlington striker has shown he can still cut it at this level with five goals already this season. And in last night's 1-1 draw against Sheffield Wednesday in front of a frustrated full house at Victoria Park Gabbiadini headed home an equaliser six minutes from time to extend Pool's unbeaten league home record to 24. In front a crowd of 7,448 - their biggest home league crowd since 1967 - Pool dominated for long periods of the match but couldn't break down an Owls side held together by former midfield workhorse Robbie Mustoe and ex-Pool centre back Graeme Lee.
But when Lloyd Owusu latched onto a poor headed backpass from Michael Nelson to lob the ball over Provett and give his side the lead two minutes after the break, Pool's fans feared the worst.
However, never-say-die Pool stuck to their task and were rewarded when Mark Robinson swung over a sweet left wing cross and Gabbiadini rose highest to plant lift his header over the top of David Lucas to send Pool's fans wild.
Pool almost took an early lead when Gavin Strachan's free kick was fumbled by Lucas in the visitors' goal and Ritchie Humphreys went even closer when he rattled the bar with a 25-yarder before the break.
Even when they went behind, though, Pool always looked likely to find a way back into the match and, although by his own admission he had a quiet night, Gabbiadini was there when it mattered.
"It was a tough game. I just had to keep plugging away hoping the manager was going to keep me on, and it's nice to get the goal," he said.
Tag at 01:26:27 Friday October 17 2003
Actually Dan, I was thinking as much myself. Keep the faith on Master Calderwood and his merry gang, though. And hopefully if we can get some chit chat about the things that matter maybe things will turn round for the other CC. 1 thing that does worry me is the lack of talk about new signings. I would have thought there wouldbe some talk about that. its well Known that we need a striker and some creativity in midfield but there is no talk of new players from the new management team.
Puzzled Dan at 01:13:50 Friday October 17 2003
Wot a load of cobblers cobblers comments is. not seen the usual supsects on here for ages 7 no wonder. imposters galore childish pictures + pathetic nonsense. i would hate 2 see the demise of cc because it is as part of the cub as sixfields but really, where are the slims, the drillings andthe childs and yes even ted. what is the answer? also is any1 really still convinced by a newcomer like CC being the manger when stockport can get Sammy Mcilroy. When u c the managers that r out of work that end up commentating on sky sports it makes u wonder why we havent gone 4 the tried and tested. just a thot
village boy at 22:42:07 Thursday October 16 2003
If Oxford can stuff you ,just think what we could do if you were unlucky enough to be drawn against us in a cup game.
Hmmmmmm at 21:36:16 Thursday October 16 2003
M.Smith to get a hatrick tomorrow
Feeling Lonely at 21:30:21 Thursday October 16 2003
So what is the web address where we can go for an unabusive chat about all things Cobblers?
Jimmy Pursey at 21:12:23 Thursday October 16 2003
A Sham? A Sham you say!!??
cobblers old boy at 19:40:18 Thursday October 16 2003
I think you will find looking back at the posts that badger, rob and others have complained in the past about the bad language and personal abuse. Ray does not seem to be around at the moment to delete it all. It seams that we will all have to go to the hotelend site where you have to reg. with an email address and password. it's the only way forwords and it's asham because this was a very good site.
Not Rob at 19:10:40 Thursday October 16 2003
What amazes me is that for week after week after week, this site was ruined by some quite outrageous remarks, disgusting language and personal abuse. Almost all of it ignored while regular contributers were leaving one by one to find more comfortbale "homes" on other sites. It would have been so easy to delete the offending posts but nothing was done and now I believe it is too late to save this site. Having said all that, suddenly there is a post of an attractive young lady with a beautiful figure, and NOW people complain. I don't know, I just don't know!
cobblers old boy at 19:00:14 Thursday October 16 2003
I'm with Rob on this one. Clean up this site. And the other rob you slipped up didn't you, you can't help slipping in that swear word can you.
another rob at 18:48:58 Thursday October 16 2003
The real rob does not change his posts-- so rob is not rob. GET THAT not ROB
cobblers old boy at 18:22:37 Thursday October 16 2003
How could Oxford let the villagers down the road beat them 0-1. It would be nice if we could get them in one cup or another.
Rob at 18:09:04 Thursday October 16 2003
I am now starting to think that I am a twat for saying all these ridiculous things such as wanting to shut down a great site which fills so many people with the entertainment which NTFC cannot presently do. I am sorry, and I will not make such stupid comments again.
Andy Fairweather Low at 18:03:13 Thursday October 16 2003
Just who is Captain Cobbler....???
badger at 18:02:21 Thursday October 16 2003
I like our new goalie...below....he should give us an Hand with Promotion.... A new CF with four legs would also help us out.......Up the Cobbs.
badger at 17:53:31 Thursday October 16 2003
I'm with Rob on this.....I work at a local school and we have had to block this site to all our children...... because of the fowl mouth language and now rude pictures..... I know the pictures so far have not been porn but we cannot take the chance of what the next picture will be..... Lots of the Cobblers fans at the school use this site a lot and are upset at not being able to use it.....I use the site very often and think most of the pictures and giffs are very funny......So lads if this site is to carry on and I hope it does. We will have to clean up our act and the site will have to be password protected in some way......I expect now I will get some verbal abuse for posting this post.
If you right click at 17:02:01 Thursday October 16 2003
on the picture, then select properties, it will tell you where they come from, ie source. As far as I can see, all are from other sites, none of which are of "Adult" material, in other words, free to view. Therefore if anybody wants to see these pictures, including your kids Rob, they are there for all to see.
Waffle at 16:43:51 Thursday October 16 2003
What a load of nonsense below, the pics are not offensive or illegal, Rob you sound like a victorian bore, go get a life, if you have children I pity them, are they locked in the attic
badger at 16:38:19 Thursday October 16 2003
Ray...... Can't you just delete the offending pictures ????? I run a guestbook on my website and I can delete any entry I like.
FA Cup/LDV at 16:26:01 Thursday October 16 2003
Lets have R&D in both.
mjharrison56 at 16:11:25 Thursday October 16 2003
Anyone up for Peterboro away in the LDV 2nd Round?
Anon at 15:47:35 Thursday October 16 2003
Rob, If you are concerned about your children visiting this site (and I can understand why) simply block the site using easily available parental control software. Anyone else who does not want their children to access this site need to take some responsibility to stop them rather than just waiting for Ray to sort it out. I agree that the pictures are no worse than those that appear in the Sun etc. but I guess its only a matter of time before the idiots cross the line with something really offensive so block access to the site by your kids until Ray has sorted it out.
FA Cup at 14:35:26 Thursday October 16 2003
The draw for the First Round Proper of the FA Cup will be live on BBC1 in the 'Final Score' programme at 5.05pm on Saturday 25 October. First Round matches will be on Saturday 8 November (or that week-end.
Use another board.......... at 13:52:10 Thursday October 16 2003
Rob - why don't you visit a board that requires a secure login - it's not foolproof but it does cut out a lot of the rubbish - try the relatively new hotel end board which is pretty good. Whilst I do agree that some of the purile postings are offensive I really don't think the recent picture is any worse (or better) than many appearing daily in newspapers & on television.
Ray at 12:57:07 Thursday October 16 2003
I havent disappeared. UKOL are working on a solution.
Rob@12:21:48 at 12:23:01 Thursday October 16 2003
CC UKOnline
Rob at 12:21:48 Thursday October 16 2003
Hello,
I am writing to complain about one of your “free to air” websites which is available to all who enter the URL below. There is no password protection for under 18’s and the site purports to promote a football club. It has however degenerated into an unacceptable forum for swearing, pornography and unsolicited rubbish. As owners of this site I expect its removal or cleaning up via its leased occupier otherwise I’ll take this complaint elsewhere. I would appreciate a response as I have followed Northampton Town Football Club via this site for some 5 years or so but refuse to do so since Ray Clements appears to have disappeared, despite attempts at contact. If he has some form of personal crisis then God bless him and suspend his exposure during his period of uncontrolled supervision, otherwise please remove this sites ability to promote this garbage until he is otherwise encumbered or remove its right to portray your name in total disregard of all moral and decent values. I am no prude but have children who are avid followers of both Northampton Town Football Club and the platform which you promote and gain profit from….
Yours in Christ,
Rob Tite
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ntfc/cobbcomm.htm
Old Watling Street Cobblers at 12:08:27 Thursday October 16 2003
The porno below is just the Tip of the Iceberg!!!
Rob at 09:53:22 Thursday October 16 2003
If you don't do something about it Ray I'll have you shut down
Paul S at 08:32:33 Thursday October 16 2003
Oh well done village boy - you managed to beat Oxford's second team. BTW its Atko not atco - that's a lawn mower
village boy at 07:39:58 Thursday October 16 2003
I bet your all pleased we sorted Atco's team out last night, so as to restore some pride back into Northants.
Rushden Farmer at 22:25:36 Wednesday October 15 2003
Hurry up and get them off I can't hang on all night,......oh my god help me please.
I could at 18:13:36 Wednesday October 15 2003
but then I would be in real trouble!
Anon at 17:41:23 Wednesday October 15 2003
sod removing the pic cant someone with some sort of paintshop skill remove her shorts?
village boy at 17:40:04 Wednesday October 15 2003
they look firmer than my mums
mustard mitt at 17:37:41 Wednesday October 15 2003
agreed, those t@ts are fantastic and worth soiling several sweaty socks over, ive done 5 already and ive only been online 7 minutes
sticky fingers at 17:36:30 Wednesday October 15 2003
Whether the pic below has been done on paint shop pro, deluxe paint or rolphs cartoon time i couldnt care a jot, as far as im concerned its excellent sex wee material
Anon at 16:15:39 Wednesday October 15 2003
COME AND CHEER THE BEST TEAM IN NORTHAMPTON TONIGHT V COVENTRY WIMBLEDON FC ????? what are you on about nosey? - neither team are in Northampton. What time is the taxi with all the MK Francise fans leaving the NHS?
Anon at 16:04:17 Wednesday October 15 2003
This from an Oxford fan site..... "It's that time of year when the reserves get a run out and can pretend that they're first teamers. Tomorrow the LDV road-show comes to town, with Rushden & Diamonds the visitors to the Kas. The concept that United have to be considered underdogs to this jumped up non-league outfit is so patently laughable that we refuse even to consider it."
Re-hotelender at 15:49:58 Wednesday October 15 2003
I haven't but I know a few who have. Registering again seems to be the best ploy. You can always ask the marquiss to delete your first attempt. Good luck.
Nosey Parker at 15:47:42 Wednesday October 15 2003
COME AND CHEER THE BEST TEAM IN NORTHAMPTON TONIGHT V COVENTRY
WIMBLEDON FC
Anon at 15:38:47 Wednesday October 15 2003
Hotel End website seems okay !
LA at 15:34:00 Wednesday October 15 2003
Decapitation of picture an improvement then! :-)
mjharrison56 at 15:09:11 Wednesday October 15 2003
Does anyone else have problems getting onto the Hotel End website.
Sinister at 14:56:01 Wednesday October 15 2003
DRUG DENS Oct 15 2003
Millionaire gangster on European jaunt with Premier club
By Richard Elias
A GANGSTER drug smuggler flew abroad with the official Dundee FC party for a European tie yesterday.
Millionaire John Healy brother-in-law of notorious Glasgow crime lord Tam `The Licensee' McGraw has become a familiar face around club owners Peter and Jimmy Marr and controversial new director Giovanni Di Stefano.
And his presence on the plane to Italy is sure to lead to questions from supporters of the Dens Park club.
Last night, a senior police source told the Record: ``Healy made a lot of cash from the drugs trade and now he's swanning around Europe like this.
``He's acting like the big man and it's incredible that a club like Dundee can allow a guy like him to associate with their organisation.''
Healy served five years of a 10-year sentence for drug trafficking, handed down in 1998.
The High Court in Edinburgh was told how £260,000 worth of cannabis was foundon a boys' football team coach when it was searched on the M74.
Initially, 11 men, including The Licensee, stood trial but it was Healy whowas convicted.
The two men, who used to be close pals, fell out and apparently put contracts on each other's heads.
Shortly before his release from Castle Huntly open jail, near Forfar, Angus, he was sent to do voluntary work at Dundee FC instead enjoying visits to bookies and healthspots. But Healy's trip to Italy for the UEFA Cup tie against Perugia is not the first time he has travelled abroad with Dundee.
Earlier in the year, he watched the club take on KS Vllaznia in Albania.
It's thought that factions within the SFA want convicted fraudster Di Stefano kicked out of the Scottish game.
Di Stefano who has ploughed millions into the club claims to have been a close associate of dead Serbian warlord Arkan.
badger at 13:52:26 Wednesday October 15 2003
everybody's gone to the new cobblers board @ http://www.thehotelend.cjb.net/.......
Up the Cobbs
car parking at 13:16:11 Wednesday October 15 2003
moan
Length of Grass at 13:15:50 Wednesday October 15 2003
Moan
Catering at 13:15:31 Wednesday October 15 2003
moan
Bored@work at 13:00:26 Wednesday October 15 2003
where is everyone? its all gone quiet on here.... nothing to moan about?
mjharrison56 at 11:35:34 Wednesday October 15 2003
Cobbs to share training facilities with Saints, because of state of Moulton College pitches.
Wonky at 11:32:16 Wednesday October 15 2003
Yes Ray, take it off her left breast is a bit wonky and its putting me off my work.
Blindspot at 08:42:42 Wednesday October 15 2003
Calderwood wants to resign already, statement says he cant do anything with the shit he has got!!
Pihuan at 07:05:01 Wednesday October 15 2003
Seems there is a bit of a news black out while the new men find their way around. Whilst I'm dying to know what's going on, it's probably a good thing recalling the multiple gaffes from Wilko, a nice bloke but prone to put his foot in it. Re. GDS, we really had a lucky escape there, and I hope Dundee survive this. I'm surprised there are no rumoura re new signings yet. Is that nice Mr. Alpay a free agent yet!!
Rob at 05:13:55 Wednesday October 15 2003
Would you remove that picture at 18:57 please Ray,it's offensive.
Fred west at 22:54:02 Tuesday October 14 2003
hello
mick at 22:37:01 Tuesday October 14 2003
If anyone is interested R+D are 8/1 for relegation at bet365. Worth a go. Hull are prety much odds on to win div 3 - Oxford 2nd favourites at around 7/2
Hmmm at 22:03:09 Tuesday October 14 2003
Hmmm, lookis like a photoshop pic to me, All the stuff about Di Stefano below is fascinating, I know it is easy to say that was then and this is now but we are lucky to have the Cardozas and it was only 18 months ago that people were trying to tell us GDS was the answer. They should be thouroughly ashamed of themselves and there but for the grace of god we would have gone, Our 100+ years of history could have gone down the pan and I for one will not forget those who said "problem what problem" or "give him achance" etc thank god we got away with it but all Cobblers fans know how close we came to taking this maniac on
Good at 18:30:19 Tuesday October 14 2003
Good they have gone to bed
Schools Out at 17:13:32 Tuesday October 14 2003
This board always goes downhill and gets churlish after the schools kick out, anon try a post without swearing or having a pop at at someone you might surprise yourself.
Anon at 16:52:06 Tuesday October 14 2003
Rushden Town don't exist, inbred!!!
NN10 at 16:47:38 Tuesday October 14 2003
Bloke with a twitch wants to check his facts out. Rushden Town was formed before NTFC.
Dyl at 16:41:45 Tuesday October 14 2003
There is a priceless interview with Ian Holloway at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.wildgust/movies.htm
Anon at 16:39:43 Tuesday October 14 2003
Fuck off Dumb Broad, and go and show your flaps somewhere else!!
FAO United Front at 16:39:12 Tuesday October 14 2003
A good one stop shop for all Cobblers news can be found at http://www.newsnow.co.uk.
Drilling Cobbler at 16:38:52 Tuesday October 14 2003
I would like to state that I know what I am talking about and have differentails on the website - who claim to know more than me about my beloved NTFC, well let me tell you, I am the one and only true statistiction, who has many year knowledge about this club!
Dumb Broad at 16:22:49 Tuesday October 14 2003
Anon at 16.06 - oh dear, would you like a slice of lemon to go with your pint of bitter?
He's back!!! at 16:11:22 Tuesday October 14 2003
Oh No he's back GDS!! who else can that anon post at 16:06:31 Tuesday October 14 2003 be? Check your bed again for horses heads Tony and check under your car before driving.
You Like him at 16:07:56 Tuesday October 14 2003
You like him then anon?
Anon at 16:06:31 Tuesday October 14 2003
Tony Clarke is a red commy knobhead who has himself and his interests at the forefront of any decision.
We would do better sending him to Siberia FC, the man's a disgrace.
Anon at 16:05:29 Tuesday October 14 2003
Shame that John Ward could not be a little more gracious. I don't know the circumstances of his failure to secure the job, but if it was actually offered to him, then I can only imagine he was rejected because he dithered or asked for more. Welcome to the real world John,in which 99.9% of us have to live. Sometimes you need to grab a job with both hands when you are lucky enough to be offered it, particularly if you are out of work. Just another example of how those in football are detached fron reality.
therealslimmartinw at 15:55:55 Tuesday October 14 2003
All, now got a bloody nose which I deserve, and I will continue to hit myself and self mutilate, if I come out with any crap. Should be dead by xmas based on the amount of shit that I spout then!! Ha Ha
Anon at 15:51:35 Tuesday October 14 2003
kids are home from school...
therealslimmartinw at 15:49:26 Tuesday October 14 2003
The drilling cobbler needs his head examining as he is a complete twat, who has nothing worthwhile to say and I would love to smash his face in cos he is such a snivelling piss head, oops soory thats me who's the piss head and needs my face pulverised for the crap comments I make, excuse me whilst I just punch myself.
Anon at 15:48:07 Tuesday October 14 2003
Remember this, a bit unfair to pick out postings from the past and set them against the present, we have all made postings about expected results, expectations for the season etc etc that turned out to be wrong. Hindsight is tuppence a bucket full and like many other posters Drlling may have posted since conceding that GDS was a waster.
Dumb Broad at 15:43:27 Tuesday October 14 2003
for what its worth - thank heavens for Tony Clarke - all through the GDS stuff he was one of the sensible, reasoned voices and from what i understand he has been very involved in the CC appointment...
United Front at 15:42:25 Tuesday October 14 2003
Does anyone know if there is a reason why the official site hardly ever has any news on it these days? I would have thought that this represents an exciting time for the club and I'd like to read about CC and JD's first impressions on the paying staff, how training is going, how preparations are going for Friday, possible additions to the squad, details of Peter Miller and Lee Power, where we are with the ground developments etc. Instead all we get is datails of a sportsmans dinner with John Conteh!
Santos FC at 15:37:44 Tuesday October 14 2003
Seeing as every other fucking football team wants to post here, I thught I would write from my native brazilian football team, Santos, a team who plays football the way it should be played not like the shite we see from NTFC and DUFC. PS - Has anyone seen any brazilians in Northampton or has bexxy got a hollywood!
Remember this? at 15:35:18 Tuesday October 14 2003
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:16:30 Monday June 10 2002
The club has now been officially up for sale for some 8months and unofficially for an eternity. One by one we with have seen prospective investers gain and lose interest, yet many people insist that the club should stay totally clear of the one and only person who is seemingly prepared to invest a large sum of money into the club. Whilst I do not have blind confidence of the law system in this country, I do have enough to feel that if Di Stefano was the 'scum character' and some suggest he is, he would probably no longer have his freedom and would certainly not be able to practice his profession. We have all read about his alledged antics on the web, heard ramblings from the trust and in paricular Tony Clarke, and the various concerns of a number of supporters. But lets not forget that the man is of local origon, is worth 300million pounds, and wants to spend some of it on the cobblers! Regardless of what our opinions of the man are, there is no one else at this stage who seems willing
If Only at 15:21:48 Tuesday October 14 2003
If only GDS had got involved in Franchise, we could all be gloating now.
Anon at 15:17:53 Tuesday October 14 2003
If this GDS story is true then it confirms what a lucky escape we had. I see Rev Page is part of the story - wonder if he still looks like Max Wall and has fired up the Dundee fans like he did at the trust open forum? Hope Dundee can sort this one out, they seemed a decent lot at the pre season game at Sixfields and hopefully Dundee Utd fans can rise above gloating. Much as I dislike P'boro, R&D's et al we need other teams to keep going so we have a league (not too bothered about Franchise though!)
Devils Money at 15:13:39 Tuesday October 14 2003
Does anyone remember someone shouting at an open Forum "I would take the devils money if it meant saving this club"? Well it looks a similar situation at Dundee and the devil is dragging the club down with him.
DUFC will be happy at 15:07:35 Tuesday October 14 2003
It seems Dundee are going belly up and Dundee United fans will be laughing their socks off found this which confirms the problem. The same source said the SFA was being placed in "an impossible position" by the Di Stefano case, as a decision to ban him could precipitate the closure of a member club. Dundee FC is in a deep financial crisis, which Di Stefano promised to cure with the injection of at least £26m. A source close to Dundee FC’s financial management said that if Di Stefano was banned from being a director and then pulled out, Dundee would "close unless the Marrs and the bank support the club".
Anon at 15:02:39 Tuesday October 14 2003
The one thing you can be sure of village boy is that the roles will soon be reversed!!
Dick Turpitude at 14:46:07 Tuesday October 14 2003
Thanks Dick Tionary the meaning suits him well don't you think?
Tickled at 14:44:48 Tuesday October 14 2003
This one tickled me GDS was asked by the Sunday MAil if it was true that he was signing Kanchelskis....... Di Stefano rubbished rumours that formerRangers and Manchester United winger Andrei Kanchelskis might be next to arrive. He said: ``Who the bloody hell is Kanchelskis? I've never heard of him. Let's put it this way -- everybody is interesting but we are married men so we have to leave it at that.''..... Now what the bloody hell does all that mean then? Does he want to shag Kanchelskis? The mind boggles, what a prat
Dick Tionary at 14:38:18 Tuesday October 14 2003
Turpitude \Tur"pi*tude\, n. [L. turpitudo, from turpis foul,
base.]
Inherent baseness or vileness of principle, words, or
actions; shameful wickedness; depravity. --Shak.
Reallity Check at 14:35:39 Tuesday October 14 2003
Reality, you miss the point, this could have been our club, no one is rehashing anything this is current news on the web now, and it looks like Dundee could suffer as a consequence. GDS never goes away but I would imagine that there will be a number of people who will be glad to see his come uppance
And the man himself says..... at 14:32:35 Tuesday October 14 2003
Interview with the BBC "If there is anyone who believes the best interests of Dundee Football Club and Scottish football would be served by my resignation as a director then take me to court and prove it," Di Stefano said in a statement. "I have 357 million reasons why I cannot be threatened, blackmailed, blackballed, coerced into leaving Dundee FC" "Prove that I am not 100% committed to Dundee. Prove that I have not already invested considerable sums and had substantial bank guarantees accepted." Hmm sounds familiar!! he then says ""I am here to put money into Dundee, not take it out. I want to see the team which my son loves succeed, nothing else. If you haven't got the guts to take me on in court then buy me out."
reality at 14:27:10 Tuesday October 14 2003
it must be a bad news day if you are rehashing the Di Stefano story - yawn, also ENGLAND = COBBLERS v PETERBOROUGH = TURKEY, i have no interest in R&D, they should enjoy their DAY!
Moral Turpitude!! at 14:22:17 Tuesday October 14 2003
Moral Turpitude sounds dangerous to me as in "More damagingly still, Di Stefano was deported from the USA in 1992 by the US Government. Federal Court documents published for the first time today show that when he appealed against the deportation decision in 1995, the court was told that he was found guilty in England "of offences involving fraudulent trading". The case notes add that "at his deportation hearing, Di Stefano admitted being deportable as an alien who was inadmissible at the time of his entry because he was convicted of a crime of moral turpitude."
Colourful at 14:19:54 Tuesday October 14 2003
Surely not, He was "just a colourful character, and the game needs characters" that's what Stonhill said at the time if I remember rightly
Plenty at 14:17:55 Tuesday October 14 2003
Jamie you are right but there were plenty of people who said prove it. Now it seems as if they have.
hmm at 14:15:49 Tuesday October 14 2003
Scotland on Sunday has obtained proof that Di Stefano lied about his past as a criminal. He was convicted of serious fraud offences on March 18, 1986 following a 78-day trial at the Old Bailey in London. The amount of money involved in the fraud was reported at the time to have been £25m. In the same case, Di Stefano was also convicted of acquiring huge numbers of video tapes by deception.
Sentencing him to five years in prison, Judge Anthony Lewisohn concluded that Di Stefano is "one of nature’s fraudsters ... a swindler without scruple or conscience".
Di Stefano was also disqualified from being a company director and banned from "the promotion, formation or management" of a company for a period of 10 years.
Jamie at 14:15:43 Tuesday October 14 2003
great post 'gotcha' and it made very interesting reading,a lot of it has surfaced before when we were 'involved' with him, but it looks like his days are numbered,both as a conman and as a self confessed potential saviour of any football club.
GOTCHA at 14:02:56 Tuesday October 14 2003
Well the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth was along time coming but here it is. http://www.sport.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=1129122003 We were very very lucky not to get involved although if I remember we were warned
Bloke with a twitch at 13:35:51 Tuesday October 14 2003
Village boy, you forget that people were supporting football clubs long before your team was invented. Your team are just inconsequential, not important, insignificant. I just don't care about your team, that's why I never visit your web site. You on the other hand keep visiting us, please get the message, we just don't care about you, go away.
village boy at 13:24:50 Tuesday October 14 2003
You hate diamonds because they are in a higher league than you and play better football than you and better teams than you each week, thats why were off to Sheffield Wednesay on Saturday, bet you all feel gutted and dead jealous of our No1 in the county status.
Quiet at 12:59:25 Tuesday October 14 2003
Aint it?
Anon at 11:42:06 Tuesday October 14 2003
Rushen Farmer, do you have a large nipple on top of your cranium?
Rushden Farmer at 10:47:58 Tuesday October 14 2003
I don't like you lot. I remember when we used to play Corby, that's when I learnt how to speaks Scottish. Hoots Mon.
Matt Scott at 10:47:38 Tuesday October 14 2003
A bit of a godsend for CC us getting a bye in the Crap Cup..........allows him a week to find out all about the players.........although a few of them I guess he wouldn't need a week!!!
sour grapes at 10:39:34 Tuesday October 14 2003
So Wilko gets sacked and yet still manages to send a nice letter to the Trust and praise the club and yet Ward tries to fleece us and then gets upset when he fails? and then cries off to the papers and anyone else who will listen? Well hard lines Mr Ward Do you know Kieth Welch by any chance? Perhaps you bump into him at the dole office.
Sparko at 10:29:21 Tuesday October 14 2003
One of the presenters of 606 on fivelive last night said he had spoken to Mr Ward this week, who seemed to be particularly annoyed
at the way he was treated by Northampton Town, the presenter then
went on to say, and I quote, "Who'd want to work for Northampton Town?". May I say I was quick to email the BBC 5live program to say that thier statement had been unfair as they had obviously only had Mr Ward's side of the story!
Dumb Broad at 09:39:36 Tuesday October 14 2003
therealslimmartinw - Why was Ward worried about the Clubs hiring and firing reputation? Calderwood isn't - he's got a nice three year contract.... anyone else heard about England friendly on November 16th? apart from Betcha?
Men in Claret at 23:48:34 Monday October 13 2003
Dumb broad is correct, Ward's agent tried to up the fee at the eleventh hour. To quote Ward "If this is the way they conduct business then perhaps Northampton were not the team for me"
Well Mr Ward, if you had to go away and think about the offer, perhaps you were not the man for us.
therealslimmartinw at 21:50:43 Monday October 13 2003
Dumb Broad, my understanding is that we changed our minds for some reason over John Ward at the very last minute. He was due to be here one minute the next it was Colin Calderwood and John Deehan. Whether we had cold feet because he was looking for more money, i dont know. But I was told by a former collague in Carlisle working for the local paper, that Ward was anxious about the club's hiring and firing reputatation and clearly wanted to ensure he had a good deal for himself. That may or may not have had a bearing, as I said.
Ted at 20:40:34 Monday October 13 2003
NN10..3350 home fans is an absolute disgrace for a second division fixture, and the club even offered "take a friend for a fiver".A break even figure of 5000 looks to have been a very bad miscalculation.Could this be the beginning of the end for Irthlingborough.
NN10 at 20:31:22 Monday October 13 2003
Message to anon -
I'd say Cobblers fans are more plastic. All that boasting of 40,000 at Wembley and how many do you get at Sixfields? For a town of your size the support is a joke.
Face it, we are a division above you because we have a better team. And N'Hampton's hardly the centre of the universe is it?
IP Server at 19:55:25 Monday October 13 2003
Hello everyone, quite frankly I do not give a damn what you put on here, its great fun and a testamount to the fun we can all get from upsetting some NTFC fans. Well done and keep up the good work!
Anon at 19:03:00 Monday October 13 2003
lol ... www.franchisefc.co.uk !!!! Must be someone at premium TV taking the p*ss!
Topper at 18:43:29 Monday October 13 2003
http://www.franchisefc.co.uk
Anon at 17:37:17 Monday October 13 2003
I cannot believe that dump of cesspit up the A45 has got a football club in a division higher than the Cobbs, its an absolute piss take.
Plastic club, plastic fans and a w*nker as a chairman, f*ck off Diamonds, I hate you all so much you wouldn't believe it!
Anon at 16:54:23 Monday October 13 2003
Dumb Broad - you could be useful in more ways than one, hey why don't you stick around?
Rushdenshire at 16:46:01 Monday October 13 2003
What do you see when you look into a Cobblers fan's eyes?
The back of his head.
Betcha at 16:31:06 Monday October 13 2003
Cobblers v Swansea - moved to Monday 17th
Dumb Broad at 16:30:09 Monday October 13 2003
Never one to gossip but there seem to be so many old women on here already I might as well join in...... Ward was offered a substantial amount of cash but wasn't satisfied and asked for more - was told like it or lump it and decided to lump it apparently.... think we got a better deal as a result though.....i get to hear lots of gossip about the Cobblers...
Ward at 16:11:00 Monday October 13 2003
Think about what? He either wanted the job or he didn't unless thinking about it meant upping the anti to squeeze more cash as some have suggested. Calderwood No 1 Deehan Number 2 is a much better deal than Ward anyway
Anon at 15:51:52 Monday October 13 2003
We 'ate diamonds and we 'ate diamonds, we 'ate diamonds and we 'ate diamonds, we 'ate diamonds and we 'ate diamonds,,, ooohhhh we are the diamonds 'aters!!!!
Sean at 15:24:11 Monday October 13 2003
Does there have to be a point? Just seemed like an interesting quote but who really cares what went on last week. Here's to Friday and the new Cobblers team under Colin and John
Diamonds Rule at 15:19:01 Monday October 13 2003
Dont you love them...
jOHN wARD at 15:17:52 Monday October 13 2003
Same quote was in the New of the World, lets keep up to speed it is Monday afternoon, u London half wit
Scumville at 15:12:49 Monday October 13 2003
Northampton was once a quaint village with black plague and a worthless shit football team. The date was 0030 A.D. Now however they have luckily got rid of the black plague, but still have a worthless shit football team.
The Real Abington Cobbler at 15:09:49 Monday October 13 2003
So what's your point Sean?
Sean at 14:58:22 Monday October 13 2003
From Football365.com
"Finally, another managerial change. Northampton Town have unveiled former Spurs player Colin Calderwood as their new gaffer. This came as a bit of a shock to John Ward, the former Wolves No.2.
His comments to some members of the press were: "I was given the job on Tuesday and went off to think about it. But the following day I rang Colin and he told me he had been offered it. I am disappointed but if that’s Northampton’s attitude then maybe they were not the right club for me.""
cobblers old boy at 14:54:49 Monday October 13 2003
Anon. She doesn't sound dumb to me. Said she doesn't come up the cobbs anymore, thats not dumb.
badger at 14:36:41 Monday October 13 2003
blackpool cobbler....Yes to the ticket on Friday night.....we never sell out, poor gates at the cobblers at the mo.....might be a few more being Friday night.....Come on you cobbs....lets make it a full house.
Anon at 13:11:52 Monday October 13 2003
Ooooh yeess, Dumb Broad, I like 'em dumb.... the dumber the better!!
BlackpoolCobbler at 13:10:48 Monday October 13 2003
I am coming down to Northampton on Friday afternoon and will be attending the game against Scunthorpe. Can I purchase a ticket on the evening for the game?
mjharrison at 13:01:20 Monday October 13 2003
We are playing Friday cause the egg chasers are playing Saturday.
Dumb Broad at 12:42:37 Monday October 13 2003
Cobblers Old Boy - not after the boss but I find it useful if I'm able to make small talk with him between serious stuff in office.... I might come up on Friday - i used to go to most home games and a few away when Atkins was in charge - back in the days of Woody in goal, Heggsy, Frainy etc... I remember getting p****d wet through when we played Spurs...aaaah, can still see Ginola's thighs in my tiny little mind......
Anon at 12:38:02 Monday October 13 2003
And why are we playing on Friday?
cobblers old boy at 12:35:35 Monday October 13 2003
Dumb Broad. Who's after her boss then. Why don.t you cum to the game with him then???? Come on you know it makes sense. Get up to sixfields on Friday night.
badger at 12:29:37 Monday October 13 2003
Friday night kick off 7.45.......Come on you Cobblers lets fill sixfields for once.
FIXED DRAW at 12:11:54 Monday October 13 2003
Latvia v Turkey
Scotland v Holland
Croatia v Slovenia
Russia v Wales
Spain v Norway
The ties, to be played on November 15-16 and 18-19, will decide who joins hosts Portugal, champions France, Sweden, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, England, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Denmark and Greece in the finals.
Dumb Broad at 12:02:22 Monday October 13 2003
can someone confirm please that Cobblers are plyaing at Home on Friday and not Saturday. don't follow the team myself but my boss is huge fan who attends every game and I've got it in his diary for Saturday.... although I don't follow the team I regularly have a look at Cobblers Comments so I've got something to talk to him about over coffee...
jamie at 11:56:26 Monday October 13 2003
isn't chambers 18?
Andy Turner Fan Club at 11:34:32 Monday October 13 2003
I think we have a pretty full squad now. CC has already stated that everyone has a fresh chance to impress, my guess is that some players might have to leave to make room for fresh blood. I still believe we have a good enough squad to make it at this level and by calling for new players, we are only undermining the confidence of the present team.
Dyl at 10:51:46 Monday October 13 2003
Harsley played ok and did some very nice things. But he wasn't fully match fit and tired in the 2nd half.
Matt Scott at 10:38:39 Monday October 13 2003
How did Harsley play Saturday?
Any transfer activity expected?? at 10:37:14 Monday October 13 2003
Too early or do you think that CC will have picked up on what we all know already........2 midfielders, one CF
R&DFC at 04:33:31 Monday October 13 2003
'bout time we had some pictures on here.
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55612 at 23:14:44 Sunday October 12 2003
Personally I would rather be "rested" than "dropped". But, I suppose you're right, at the end of the day they both boil down to the same thing. You're not in the team!
Young at 23:08:05 Sunday October 12 2003
Jamie, Chambers is a 17 year old in his first season he needs time to adapt and it would not be wrong to rest him. It is only the injury to our other right backs that has forced his selection every week
jamie at 23:01:58 Sunday October 12 2003
51256-when you say 'rest'chambers, i think given your reasons that you actually mean 'drop' chambers. a player is generally rested if they are though to be exhausted or just playing to many games.if a manager thinks their 'positioning is suspect' then they are 'dropped'....simple really!
Ralph2 at 21:44:19 Sunday October 12 2003
I hope to find a bar to watch it while in Lanzarote Simon, I can think of worse problems.
A Childs View at 21:40:18 Sunday October 12 2003
Deehan's on a 3 year deal as well then? Thanks for the info poster below, blows my theory out of the water then!
pointoforder at 21:38:38 Sunday October 12 2003
therealslimmartinw at 11:01:53 Sunday October 12 2003 is another bogus post ... would be interesting to know if Middlebill/or whatever anonymous pseudonym he has now or LH went to the Rochdale game and what they thought of it???
12556 at 21:38:12 Sunday October 12 2003
16.00
Simon at 21:26:19 Sunday October 12 2003
Anyone know what time kick off is against Swansea? I know it's live on Sky Sports but I'm going to be in Spain so I'm hoping to catch it over there.
Steve at 20:55:51 Sunday October 12 2003
2 great quotes from today's I on S. Referring to the pathetic actions of our national team during the week, it calls them Rebels Without a Clue. Then it reports an exchange between Ron doing-his-bit-for-international-relations Atkinson and a Turkish taxi driver. Big Ron:'Bet you wish David Beckham was Turkish'. Taxi driver (after a considered pause), 'No Sir ..... but I wish Alpay was English.'
village boy at 20:55:18 Sunday October 12 2003
Thats original where did you get that idea from?
ABCand D at 20:20:30 Sunday October 12 2003
We have seen most Success in our History with A=Atkins B=Bowen C=Carr and D=Dodgin although we did last get promoted under W=Wilson. So C=Calderwood with D=Deehan looks good. The letter C is dominant though with the Board holding 3 C's in Cardoza, Cardoza and Clarke and on the pitch to Add to the Other CC (Curruthers) you also have Clark. This message was brought to you by the letter C.
Anon at 20:03:10 Sunday October 12 2003
how about Chard and Barnwell?
51256 at 18:09:30 Sunday October 12 2003
Just got back myself. Thoroughly enjoyed the day, shame we couldn't hold on for the three points. Agree that Sammo has probably seen his best days however he was in as a replacement for Reid and as a replacement he will do. I think though it may be time to rest Chambers. The lad obviously has a future in the game and looks good on the ball. However his positional defending is a little suspect to say the least. Finally (A Childs View) Deehan has the same 3-year contract as Calderwood. Oh and to put the cat among the pigeons regarding lucky letters A, B, C & D and lucky Scottish managers. Anybody remember a certain Pat Crerand? I rest my case.
A Childs View at 17:30:51 Sunday October 12 2003
Back from the Lakes now and playing a little bit of catch up, bit surprised by the new management team (I was really hoping for John Ward) but planning to give them 100% backing anyway. Haven't a clue whether CC will be any good but I'm willing to gamble that he is better than Wilko. I'm not keen on unclear management arrangements and talk of CC in the stands and Deehan on the touch line worries me a little - 1 team selector, 1 tactical arrangement and 1 manager has always been simplest and clearest in my book, mixed messages to the players and trading one off on the other can come about all too easily. I get the impression that Deehan isn't here for the long term and is the short term (I'm guessing a year?) aid to CC whilst he finds his feet as a manager? I'd prefer that to be honest and it seems likely given we've been told CC has a 3 year deal and no mention of Deehan's contract term. Really looking forward to Friday now and trying to do my bit as a fan to get some stability and slow steady progress back at my club. Come on the Town and good luck Mr Calderwood - a new chaper begins with a Scottish manager, they tend to be quite good I think!
Bord Nick at 17:24:21 Sunday October 12 2003
Hats off to RSMW, I've given the man some grief and abuse, but we're now seeing positive and supporting postings, well and truely proving me wrong, good on yer. Come on Cobblers.
Calm at 17:18:03 Sunday October 12 2003
Yes an air of calm has descended on Sixfields and prospect of better times is upon us. What ever Happened to Hamtune Chronicles? I would love to have heard what he would have to say about the last two years to Baron De Stonehill, Antoine the Cleric, Cornet Wilson et al and what about the new characters Jean De Hann. Colin the Scots Brave, and the Porteguese King Antoine Cardoza and his son the shining prince Cardoza the Great. Come on Hamtune give us an update for old time sake and dont forget the evil Baron Di Stefano and the african Chief Odogwu and his side kick Lord Fash of New
Anon at 17:08:01 Sunday October 12 2003
all is well now, be at peace, give the new management team a few games and all will be up again. Critics say we have good players, they have not become bad players . just need a little self confidence and decent coaching
Ward at 16:32:59 Sunday October 12 2003
John Ward was moaning in the NoTW that Calderwood got his job and that the club had offered it to him on Tuesday. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Either that or he was greedy and tried to squeeze too much out of the club. If so add Ward to Welch as people out of the game who could be still in it at the Cobblers if they hadn't have tried to fleece us.
Wrong at 13:59:40 Sunday October 12 2003
No it was 6.00pm, if he takes your advice anon he would have missed another half an hour than he has missed by not getting the information until 20 hours after the kick off and 23 and a half hours after he asked, that is unless he meant the egg chasing in which case the answer is 1pm Sunday which is only an hour ago and he can still catch the second half. Hope this helps to clear up any confusion Martin
Anon at 13:51:54 Sunday October 12 2003
Martin at 16:28:46 Saturday October 11 2003 - 6.30pm I think. hope this helps!
And at 12:47:00 Sunday October 12 2003
and 2 home games on the bounce, top ten by christmas should see us poised to pounce on the play/off auto promotion spots if we can turn things around.
Anon at 12:19:10 Sunday October 12 2003
only six points away from the play off positions - all is not lost
Thanks at 11:14:06 Sunday October 12 2003
Thanks rsm, what would we do without you, have you posted your thoughts to CC yet? or will he ring you?
therealslimmartinw at 11:01:53 Sunday October 12 2003
pushed the boat out to get a result which we did not deserve, calderwood needs to get the bonding of the team before trying to place selective team orders to get the flowing attractive football we have seen in the past.
Deepcut Cobbler at 05:29:04 Sunday October 12 2003
Thanks Linda, Had a Great Birthday, Watched Rugby from early doors, then my kids playing footie in the local league, listened to the Cobblers, Deutschland v Iceland (which was live on Terrestrial TV!), and then England stuff the Turks and especially that idiot Alpay. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Kettering town boy at 00:16:10 Sunday October 12 2003
Oh don't go just yet village boy, I do like you. I will be on your side if you like? just us two against all those cobbs boys. It will be fun.
village boy at 00:11:52 Sunday October 12 2003
got2 go now boys time to watch our goals again on Sky TV. goodnite be back in the morning after paper round, by by.
irchester boy at 00:01:50 Sunday October 12 2003
village boy- you are out numbered on here, go back to your own site and talk to yourself. Oh I forgot, you haven't a site - have you?
Kettering town boy at 23:53:19 Saturday October 11 2003
I have just been to village boys website. What a BIG boy he is. I think I'm in love. I must go to another direones game so I can meet him.
village boy at 23:47:43 Saturday October 11 2003
Todays modern buses will look old,by the time you need one
irchester boy at 23:47:35 Saturday October 11 2003
village boy, Time for your bed time, up in time for your paper round in the morning and then washing Max's car.
Gomez at 23:44:41 Saturday October 11 2003
Shouldn't get too carried away by today's point. Still early days ***so I am not criticising the management here***, but Rochdale looked a very poor side and we were no better. I think today was a big reminder to us all that we need to leave this arsehole of a division ASAP. Pitiful home support, bleak (although improved) ground, poor quality players. Come on Cobblers!!!! Surely we're better than this?!?!?! COLIN CALDERWOODS CLARET ARMY!!!
town boy at 23:42:15 Saturday October 11 2003
It could be the bus because you will not be using it that's for sure. How would you take if you ever get to the pay off's -44.000?
Anon at 23:41:53 Saturday October 11 2003
Dont get too excited and carried away Big week
village boy at 23:38:31 Saturday October 11 2003
At least we had a parade, you went down remember?
Big Week at 23:36:00 Saturday October 11 2003
Its been a big week and everyone concerned deserves our thanks. I thought the Trust meeting on Thursday was one of the best ever and shows they still have their finger on the pulse of the club. Calderwood and Deehan both had sensible comments to make and it looks as if at last we are starting to become the club we want to be. The Calderwood appointment really excites me, some one said thay saw him at Sixfields as early as last Sunday so the baord must have been working on it for some time, anybody confirm how someone not on the list of known applicants got appointed? I am glad he did but would like to understand more about how it happened.
Anon at 23:31:00 Saturday October 11 2003
looks like the bus your team used for your championship parade through Rushden last season, that five people turned up to village boy/DR4E/HA HA or whatever your name is today.
Kettering boy at 23:29:28 Saturday October 11 2003
I like village boy, please stop making fun of him.
Up the Pops, second team in Northants, after the Cobbs that is.
village boy at 23:25:07 Saturday October 11 2003
Is that the bus you will be using for the championship tour at the end of the season? or has all the big talk of league titles and promotion been blown away?
town boy at 23:23:39 Saturday October 11 2003
Yes, you got in one, same bus, only bus, team and all away fans. on hire from Rushden Transport Society. Seats 39 + the driver- Max
Hotel Ender at 23:21:11 Saturday October 11 2003
realslim - who gives a flying f**k about the sweaties? I hope they lose big style in the play offs. Come on Cobblers and England!!!
irchester boy at 23:18:44 Saturday October 11 2003
Ist win in 5. Is that the same bus they use for all the away surportrs as well as the team.
village boy at 23:14:33 Saturday October 11 2003
Nice crowd, nice win, better than a draw anyday
village boy at 23:11:12 Saturday October 11 2003
Thanks.
irchester boy at 23:09:28 Saturday October 11 2003
village boy has his own website @ http://www.heritagecollectables.com/hummel9.htm
Who's a Big boy then ?
Anon at 23:02:34 Saturday October 11 2003
Nice Crowd at Rushden today village boy/DR4E/HA HA. 3600. Big time now eh?
WALTER TULL at 22:23:37 Saturday October 11 2003
For those of you who missed the play on Radio 4 last Tuesday you can hear it again on BBC's website, but be warned you only have until Monday before it is replaced. Go to the BBc website and click on RADIO. Then go to Radio 4 and click on 'listen again'. Choose the 'Afternoon Play' and then click on Tuesday. The play is called Tull and lasts around 45 minutes. Happy listening!!
The Captain at 21:58:55 Saturday October 11 2003
Well it really felt like the season finally got underway today. We drove up to Spotland full of enthusiasm and looking forward to seeing the lads perform. Sadly under Wilko I never had the 100% commitment that all fans should really have. Looking across at the dugout it was comforting to see two people who exude all that is good in the game, Calderwood and Deehan look ever inch professionals. It is testimony to the way that they obviously still look after themselves that both look fit enough to play. Already I am looking forward to Friday's game and for many a month I am really loving watching my team play. By the way Martin Smith at times today looked awesome. Bring on the Irons!
irchester boy at 21:44:36 Saturday October 11 2003
village boy.... I wouldn't be seen dead at a direones game. the only times I have been to your ground is in the away end and the away team won every time, so I'm sure you wouldn't want me there. I surport two teams, the COBBLERS and any team that is playing the direones. Was that you I saw washing Max's car outside the ground the other day? Come on giffman more giffs of the village boy please.
therealslimmartin at 21:25:13 Saturday October 11 2003
Phew what a journey. Could have gone either way to be honest but we clearly had fire in our bellies and deserved to get a result. Nicel reaction to the new management team at the start from the fans. Rochdale missed quite few good chances in the first half which would have killed us with our brittle confidence. They definitely had the better of the first 45 although I thought for sure Smithy was going to score early on when he waltzed through Rochdale only to just miss target. But we showed a lot of spirit that has been lacking before and it would have been tough to have lost. But if anyone believed that a new management team would create miracles overnight, they were wrong. We have to give these guys time to create something from the mess made by managers gone by and in particular our last one. There was more spirit than I saw at Oxford, but then you couldnt get much worse than that and you would have expected it too with players wanting to impress their new boss. Harper was in fine fettle first half and made several good saves to keep us level at half time. Whatever was said at half time, probably you are lucky to be level, it inspired us early second half and it was good to see Josh and Smith combining for the first so early on in the first half. Sadly maybe too early for our creaky defence. I think we have some talent there but as with a lot of young players they seem to forget the art of defending on occasions, in my view. And so it showed when they were given a clear run in at goal for the equaliser. Smithy does look lively but to be honest we dont seem to have a creator in midfield and havent had that for some time. Smithy also needs someone to work off. A couple of additions up front and in midfield and we have the makings. Dont expect a play off place. Sadly we blew that by appointing Wilkinson in the first place. Consolidation is what is needed now. Anything else is a bonus. Great news for England, Scotland and Wales in the Euros. Lets hope the Scots get an easy draw in the play offs.
village boy at 21:16:43 Saturday October 11 2003
I wonder why anybody from Irchester would want to go all the way to Rochdale and witness a bore draw, when 3 miles down the road they can see a winning team in the 2nd division.
TRB Mark at 21:16:09 Saturday October 11 2003
attn trb mark: it doesnt take a genius to know who you are. the time will comexxx
Well ANON, ie someone who dare'dnt put their real name, you ent no f**king genius cos those that know me know my real name is Mark Pacan. No big secret. So, if you want to make idle threats, lets see your real name!!!
Anon at 21:16:02 Saturday October 11 2003
attn trb mark: it doesnt take a genius to know who you are. the time will comexxx
Well ANON, ie someone who dare'dnt put their real name, you ent no f**king genius cos those that know me know my real name is Mark Pacan. No big secret. So, if you want to make idle threats, lets see your real name!!!
badger at 20:08:04 Saturday October 11 2003
Good point today lads.....well done.....come on you Cobblers......Roll on Friday night
Pete Winkelman's Hairdresser at 20:00:56 Saturday October 11 2003
Disappointed Paddy below. Why did you post that? Do you think anyone in England cares? Now go away and eat some potatoes or drink some guiness or something while I book my holiday in Portugal!!!!!
Ben El ton John Ahmed Aziz Bloke at 19:01:11 Saturday October 11 2003
Turkiye, Turkiye, Turkiye. May a 1000 fleas infest your pubes you sons of rancid milk producing BSE foot and mouth producing mothers. Just kidding. As a disappointed Paddy I hope England do qualify. Otherwise we Celts would have nothing to laugh at as Ingerland Ingerland lager lout morons get their butts kicked by the Portuguese Coppers.
SBJ at 18:48:48 Saturday October 11 2003
That was a bit better than recent performances anyway. General improvement all round, though still nobody looking very confident or comfortable. With more in-form strikers up front we could have had 2 or 3 goals (mind you, so could Rochdale). The game started poor, got better, we deserved the goal and Rochdale deserved theirs; end of the seond half was quite exciting, all in all not a bad match. Our goal was from an 18-yd box cross from Hargreaves, nodded on by Low (I think) and swept in right-footed by Smith from about 6-7 yards out. Lots of clenched fists and cheering at the fans, showing what it means to the players. Crowd very small today, only about 2700, and not very noisy on either side until the last 15 minutes.
Anon at 18:34:17 Saturday October 11 2003
I'm not convinced by the Calderwood appointment. What has he achieved either as a player or a manager? Reserve team manager at Spurs speaks for itself. As for today, sounds as if Sampson once again got caught out by the long ball over the top. This team is shaping up to be one of the worst in many a long year.
Rodney at 18:08:10 Saturday October 11 2003
Tony Barton took over at Villa from Ron Saunders, I think, and had a heart attack pre-season watching us at Nuneaton. In the opposite dug out was Graham Carr who took over from Barton the following April when a new chairman, Derek Banks, took control.
Roo at 18:02:40 Saturday October 11 2003
Oh well, I guess one point gained is better than last weeks debacle, eh? Better luck on Friday... Roo xx
Steve at 16:41:00 Saturday October 11 2003
Tony Barton - my memory is really sketchy. Took over at Villa in the Eighties, from (Oh God - who was it? Whoever took them to the First Division championship and then left). Anyway - I think he was manager when they then won the Eoropean Cup, although I may well be wrong. He got the sack soon after. He was with Southampton either before or after spending a very bleak season with the Cobblers. I think he died of his heart attack when at Southampton. As you can see, I haven't really got a clue and shouldn't have attempted to show off.
Anon at 16:38:44 Saturday October 11 2003
1-1 bugger!!
Anon at 16:37:48 Saturday October 11 2003
1-1 boooooooo. 6pm.
Anon at 16:37:33 Saturday October 11 2003
1-1
Martin at 16:28:46 Saturday October 11 2003
what time does the England game kick off??
Steve at 16:20:43 Saturday October 11 2003
1-0 - Smith! Well worked goal apparently. Come on you mighty Cobblers!
Can't Recall at 16:11:42 Saturday October 11 2003
Maybe
Anon at 16:11:14 Saturday October 11 2003
1-0 Up the Wobblers
6goalZERO at 16:04:54 Saturday October 11 2003
hey
wassie at 15:50:07 Saturday October 11 2003
whats happenin?
Can't recall at 15:49:11 Saturday October 11 2003
Was a guy called Tony Barton, previously of Aston Villa perhaps, ever manager of the Cobbs, and if he was did he have a heart attack and resign?
scorer at 15:47:41 Saturday October 11 2003
0-0 at half time
Anon at 15:47:17 Saturday October 11 2003
0-0, 1 min till half time.
wassie at 15:42:26 Saturday October 11 2003
Whats happening in the game?
Anon at 15:29:19 Saturday October 11 2003
The line ups have been on the offie site since before the game.
Steve at 15:26:03 Saturday October 11 2003
Very little info coming from the club's PR machine in the last 48 hours. Today's Chron is 100% recycled quotes from the trust meeting. There is no traditional Saturday Manager's Column. Likewise the Official Site has no pre-match info and no team sheet. I guess this is all because the new management team have had to dedicate all their time to team matters. Media work has understandably to take a back seat for the first few days. Anyway, being a sad old geezer, I had a look at Spurs' Where Are They Now site and found the following entries with varying degrees of interest - David Ginola - Actor "Over the Rainbow" (Southend Cliffs Pavilion), Terry Gibson - Assistant Manager at Wycombe Wanderers, also sells bikes with club crests on at North Weald Market, Essex. Lee Fulling - Barking. Terry Fenwick - Director of Football at Southall Town; working for Pro-Sport agency. Diego Maradona - Retired. Ian Sampson - Northampton Town
missing persons dept at 15:19:06 Saturday October 11 2003
where is everyone theres no one here and no one at the game.
brooke bond_007 at 14:45:02 Saturday October 11 2003
the hotel end site is full of spy-ware......colin who......
Anon at 14:37:34 Saturday October 11 2003
TROLLOPE STARTS!!! Has been released by wales!
cobblers old boy at 14:06:56 Saturday October 11 2003
hilly is still doing the garden, I think
cobblers old boy at 14:05:29 Saturday October 11 2003
I think the giffs are very amusing . I know they slow the site down a bit but I would rather see the giffs than all that foul language and pointless posts from our friends down the road. Keep it up giff man don’t take any notice of all the miserable old farts on here.
nsb at 13:57:27 Saturday October 11 2003
pleasantly surprised with the new appointments it appears to be an exciting combination... but can i ask what has happened to hill? will he still be a part of the club now????
Anon at 13:45:41 Saturday October 11 2003
The Guardian...
Billy Turley will have gone to training at Rushden and Diamonds yesterday a very relieved man after hearing how Rio Ferdinand has become a victim of the FA's tough new stance on drugs.
Turley, 30, is helping the Northamptonshire club establish themselves in the Second Division with a series of excellent goalkeeping displays. But he knows that, if the current regime had been in place at the FA 12 months ago, he could now be serving a two-year suspension with his career in ruins.
He is the mystery player the FA allowed to escape last year with a rap over the knuckles despite the fact he was the first player in England to test positive for a banned anabolic steroid.
It was such a secret the FA's spokesman refused to acknowledge it had even happened. "We cannot confirm that a player has a problem with a drugs test. We cannot confirm a hearing has taken place. We cannot confirm if anyone has been punished," he said.
The fact that a player had even tested positive became public only because it appeared in the quarterly doping report published by UK Sport, who had conducted the test on behalf of the FA.
Far better known and wealthier competitors in other sports or from other countries who had tested positive for nandrolone, the same steroid as Turley, were far less fortunate.
The 1992 Olympic 100 metres champion Linford Christie had his reputation ruined by a two-year suspension. The 400m runner Mark Richardson was forced to miss the Olympics in Sydney. The Dutch defender Jaap Stam saw a multi-million-pound transfer to Lazio from Manchester United turn into a nightmare.
Doping experts believe that in all these cases the drug was ingested unwittingly in a health supplement. The FA warned all professionals about the supplement earlier last season, pointing out that it could have unwelcome effects and would not be accepted as a satisfactory explanation for testing positive.
Yet Turley claimed successfully to a disciplinary hearing that prescribed drugs could have triggered the result and a suspension would cause him serious distress because of a personal problem.
Warned if he tested positive again he would be banned for life but allowed to continue playing, Turley enjoyed an impressive season as Rushden won the Third Division title. Rushden's rivals may wonder at the fairness of this action.
The tough stance adopted by the chief executive Mark Palios has done much to restore the FA's reputation abroad. Now he must drive home the message that England takes the problem seriously.
Since news of Ferdinand's case broke other examples of where the FA has failed to take strict action are emerging.
In another case of a player claiming to forget he had been asked to undertake a test, Manchester City's Christian Negouai escaped with a warning last year. Ferdinand is unlikely to be so lucky.
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Major Sidney at 13:02:18 Saturday October 11 2003
Formation..........formation..........gung ho
Ade at 12:21:41 Saturday October 11 2003
Wonder what formation will be.....everyone is assuming 4-4-2
linda lovelace at 11:33:44 Saturday October 11 2003
Happy Birthday Deepcut Cobbler.
Anon at 10:35:08 Saturday October 11 2003
the pictures are Middlebill's fault not only was he a dick in what he says but he was a dick in suggesting pictures here which slow the site up. He stopped posting under his name because people were picking on him and no wonder. I wouldnt be surprised if it is just another of his anonymous entries. Coward
giffman at 09:42:46 Saturday October 11 2003
clueless pointless now who's wasting bandwidth.
You are a sad one, cheer up mate. Smile, go on force yourself.
DavCobbler at 07:25:50 Saturday October 11 2003
"Why aren't these "people" kept in a secure institution somewhere remote"? Please trust us on this one Roo, they are.
Anon at 07:21:15 Saturday October 11 2003
blown up car found at sixfields
Old Stratford Cobbler at 01:38:14 Saturday October 11 2003
Roo,cheers for the good wishes for tomorrow!! Good to have you back and having a go at the inter-breeding village people from Rushden and Diarrhoea.
Tag at 00:40:05 Saturday October 11 2003
Tag at 18:31:08 Friday October 10 2003 is not me. We have invaders from the planet rival teams i suspect. Either that or the usual tosser suspects in claret.
LHfanclub at 23:50:23 Friday October 10 2003
LH, thanks for all your efforts on the site. The insight that Martin Wilkinson is the future and that Gabbiadini has no immediate future. Believe he scored tonight. Any more insights to bestow on us fans? We would be ever so grateful. Because we will then know the which way the club will go.
snigger at 23:12:18 Friday October 10 2003
cobblers fans
Anon at 22:27:08 Friday October 10 2003
Hello DR4E/village boy
Rik at 22:00:46 Friday October 10 2003
I have no compalints about the appointment of Colin Calderwood. I have always wanted a young Scot as our manager and preferably one who has played at the highest level. I was mightily impressed by him on Thursday night and he certainly left me in no doubt as to who was the manager and who would pick the team. I did feel a little embarassed however when he asked if we had an anthem and if we would sing it. Oh well . . . here goes . . . if you all hate 'boro clap your hands. Terrific!! I really think it is time we binned the negative 'boro songs and thought up some stuff for individual players. It's time to sing about our team, our town and our success.
village boy at 21:56:03 Friday October 10 2003
I think your new appointments C and D will do very well, as all your most successful managers, have sir names begining with the first four letters in the alphabet ie B,owen D,odgin C,arr A,tkins.Am I being spooky or what?
Pete Winkelman's Hairdresser at 21:20:51 Friday October 10 2003
Yes - there is only one family in Rushden that has internet access, and unfortunately the parents are out for the evening. While the cats away the mouse will play I s'pose DR4E? This poor lad lives for school holidays and other quiet moments alone in his house .....
please ignore at 21:20:10 Friday October 10 2003
Tag at 18:31:08 Friday October 10 2003 .... another bogus post
manny at 21:18:19 Friday October 10 2003
CALDERWOOD'S BARMY ARMY! N-T-F-C
CALDERWOOD'S BARMY ARMY! N-T-F-C
c'mon lads, sing it wiv me!!
Roo at 21:12:02 Friday October 10 2003
Is DR4E the same sad little prick who put all those HA-HAs on your site last week? Why aren't these "people" kept in a secure institution somewhere remote? Roo xx
Roo at 21:09:55 Friday October 10 2003
Good luck against Rochdale tommorrow.... Roo xx
DR4E at 21:07:13 Friday October 10 2003
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DR4E at 21:05:15 Friday October 10 2003
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Ted's Teacher at 20:42:50 Friday October 10 2003
Can you please start using spaces after full stops and commas boy!!!
Andy Turner Fan Club at 20:38:45 Friday October 10 2003
I have to admit to being surprised at the appointments yesterday, but after a while to think about them I'm quite excited of the potential, the Club's 5 year plan, the managements 3 year contract - light the blue touchpaper and stand well back! I can't help smiling at imagining the training session this morning - "OK lads, who can play at left back? who fancies right midfield? which one of you keepers has let least goals in?"
Topper at 19:50:58 Friday October 10 2003
Nice appointment, I did have to think about it. But I think its a good move. Players will be judged on their abilities and their willingness now. Not because they were "cr*p last season". And is it me or are those pictures of Colin Calderwood and John Deehan on the offal site home page amusing "chair slipping down in the photobooth" ones?
Ted at 19:07:16 Friday October 10 2003
Well now it's sunk in,a very brave and positive move from the board.As usual I will give my whole hearted support to the decisions of the Cardoza's.I urge everyone with the clubs interest at heart to back the club.I say this because I more than suspect that the negative posters on here are impostors from other clubs.One I know for certain is an Irthlingborough fan,but I'll not mention his name (oink oink).
Matty at 18:37:25 Friday October 10 2003
Can i say 1 thing: C.C was fantastic for the 15mins he was on, well done! U did cobblers proud!
Tag at 18:31:08 Friday October 10 2003
i am hoping 2 go if i can get away early enuff from work. Slim, ru feeling ok? This is a desperate appointment. There is nothing 2 say that these 2 will do anyting special at all. deehan's record, wile not as bad as wilkinson's is still around a one win in three record which is a nonsense. calderwood has no experience, untried and it just sounds like a desperate act. dont be fulled by the pr nonsence. u have clearly had a labotamy. u always seem to make total sence until now. i predict a short recovery but it wont last long.
Bexxy at 17:37:15 Friday October 10 2003
Anyone off to Dale tomorrow then???
LH at 17:34:23 Friday October 10 2003
Adios boys ,off to join Johhny Marvo & the rest of the Claret Parrot Army. (if i can work out what to do). Slimmartin its been an absolute pleasure .
Anon at 17:22:18 Friday October 10 2003
blindspot, if u think slim is a twat then you must be the arsehole of the galaxy
Webmaster at 17:19:43 Friday October 10 2003
Webmaster at 16:55:18 Friday October 10 2003 and therealslimmartinw at 16:42:58 Friday October 10 2003 both ip addresses are identical for both entries. As you will not relent your service provider will be informed of your activities. It will be for them to decide what to do.
Blindspot at 17:07:22 Friday October 10 2003
Well said Middlebill, that realslimmartinw is a complete twat who needs his arse rammed with a rampant rabbit dildo. Maybe him and that slut bexxy who sounds like a right sad cunt, but probably wants to be gang banged fucked, and maybe her mum aswell
blindspot at 17:00:16 Friday October 10 2003
New website for me, great to see so many fucking moaners on site and arseholes. Makes a pleasant change to see some of the crap nad peoples shit veiws aired on a popular website for making a mockery of NTFC.
Webmaster at 16:55:18 Friday October 10 2003
sorry for the bullshit statement - its purely fictional if people believe that they can get IP addresses fro sending a message. Get a life you twats!
Tag at 16:53:15 Friday October 10 2003
Phew just manage to take stock and while the whole idea of John Deehan wound me up a bit the idea of him and Colin Calderwood together has potential. Interesting to see how it all works out though. A very encouraging announcement and lets hope it makes a difference on the pitch where it counts.
Webmaster at 16:49:45 Friday October 10 2003
therealslimmartinw at 16:42:58 Friday October 10 2003 we have your ip address now quit posting bogus messages!
Middlebill at 16:48:25 Friday October 10 2003
Please to see the posting of pictures has caught on. I feel it has added something to what is a monatonous discussion forum. Thought I wold make a comeback to vent my spleen. As for Drilling we all know that you really thing slimmartinw is a twat. I certainly do. After all it was he has played a big part in undermining the confidence in the club with his constant twitterings about Wilkinson. What we have now is a way of remedying a situation we shouldnt have been in if it hadnt been for slimmartintwat and his utterances.
therealslimmartinw at 16:42:58 Friday October 10 2003
Will the nosense just stop, last entry (Not me). I will find the sad imposters out and once this happens there will be severe retribution. The most annoying thing is that the true fans of the great football club are being antagonised by the few little shits which are infiltrating this site and making amockery of it. Ray we talked before about censorhip, if we do not start soon I will be another to relinquish my thoughts and footballing knowedge on this site.
therealrealslimmartinw at 16:34:07 Friday October 10 2003
last entry was not me!! Pathetic!!!
therealslimmartinw at 16:26:56 Friday October 10 2003
The last comment sent through this site was not mine. I actually have different views to those prescribed by some anal retentive. I do believe that Cardoza has been heavily involved in the appointments, of course he has!!!, but realism needs to be tailored or we will be in the same position as we were at the start of the season - and get another false dawn!We are not the finished article - not by a long shot, if you want to see that then go to Hull and start to suppoort them!
New Manager at 16:04:52 Friday October 10 2003
shit first training session, these boys are going to need some kicking into shape. Understand why they are languishing in the bottom of the 3rd. Any more girls like Bexxy, to help out with the roasting, need to half decent though!
Anon at 16:00:24 Friday October 10 2003
wide right
Anon at 16:00:13 Friday October 10 2003
Asamoah should start!
therealrealslimmartinw at 15:56:54 Friday October 10 2003
Bexxy, the very reason he is saying that is because he is not a Cobblers fan. Keep the faith! That's what I am trying to do. Because if we keep up the form we have been showing in recent games the Conference is where we will be! But I have confidence in the professionalism and knowledge of the duo in charge and really we are not going to get far better than we have got in the position we are in right now, in my view. Put it this way if you were a name manager would you come to Northampton Town, when it is best know for sacking managers quickly than anything else. The truth is, of course that is all down to bad management at boardroom level and it is heartening to see Cardoza being heavily involved in these appointments. I think the more people have time to take it in and think about it, taking everything into account, it's a good score. Bring it on!!!
LH at 15:52:14 Friday October 10 2003
Side for tomorrow ? Thompson , Doig , Sammo, Wilmott , Chambers ,
Reeves , Hargreaves , Harsley , Low , Smith , Dudfield . Any comments ?
Sparko at 15:34:22 Friday October 10 2003
Twat
Marco's Chef at 15:33:14 Friday October 10 2003
Good luck Caldo
therealrealslimmartinw at 15:21:14 Friday October 10 2003
Drilling, its not a comedy genius!! It's a very very pathetic person indeed. Keep on rockin!!! Cobblers for the Premiership!
Bexxy at 14:44:08 Friday October 10 2003
My boss was as depressing as some of the pessimists on here this morning when talking about the new management team... I was greeted with "Sacked by Xmas" and "Conference beckons". I wouldnt mind as much,but he doesnt even follow The Cobblers!!!! (only as far as results go so he can take the P when we lose)
I may of never heard of them, but im willing to give them a chance... All managers have to start somewhere!!!
Sparko at 14:36:38 Friday October 10 2003
What the 46 rubbish games he had last season. Come on face it Harsley going nowhere, he's not up to it!! Loan him to Kettering along with Asamoah!!!!
Mr Calderwood at 14:24:06 Friday October 10 2003
To get the good times rolling again please play Mr Paul Harsley and give him a run of games like Mr Low and Mr Trollope to get himself back into the form he showed throughout last season. His season hasn't even started yet and that seems to be all because of a sub-standard game vs Dundee.......lets remember the 46 games last season.
The Drilling Cobbler at 13:32:52 Friday October 10 2003
Ha, ha bloody ha! Somebody is mascerading as The Drilling Cobbler - time 12:26! People who read this board regularly will know that I never get abusive towards fellow contributors, I may disagree with them and state why but thats as far as it goes. I suspect the apparent reply from Slim isnt actually from him - but is the work of the original impersonator. We obviously have a comedy genius on our hands! Keep up the good work - I expect lots more messages throughout the day from The Driller even though it is unlikely that any of them will be from me!
Cordwainer at 13:15:00 Friday October 10 2003
For all the moaners. IF we lose at Rochdale please don't come on this board moaning about the new management team. Please give them a chance and that probably means a couple of months.
Rob at 13:04:56 Friday October 10 2003
Jesus Loves You
jamie at 12:57:24 Friday October 10 2003
EASY lads!! bloody hell we are all on the same side here,fighting the cause for ntfc.
Show me at 12:52:29 Friday October 10 2003
the man on here who says he doesn't wank and I'll show you a liar!
therealslimmartinw at 12:50:28 Friday October 10 2003
Drilling, i agree, not a great turn of phrase. But you don't have to call names. If you want to have a disagreement we will meet up and you can say twat to my face and then you will get my response to your face.
john at 12:50:06 Friday October 10 2003
anon At the meeting a letter to the trust chairman from MW was read out, the basics were that he wished to thank the trust for there support at the meetings and that he was sorry that he would not be at the club for the exciting times ahead and unlike previous managers rather than slag the club off he thanked the Cardoza for the support shown to him and that as a club and bunch of supporters we were lucky to have such a committed chairman and wished ntfc all the best for the future
Middlebill at 12:42:00 Friday October 10 2003
FAO: Michael Jackson at 11.58 You obviously have not had the eductaion to know what the difference is between a "Watching Brief" and anonymous postings and if your teachers couldn't educate you then I don't see any reason why I can, or even should try. If you leave me out of your diatribe then as I have said previously I will not post again. I am quite happy to "Bugger Off" from this cess pit. All you have to do is stop mentioning me and you wont here from me again. Simple really. A bit like you Slim, I mean Michael.
Anon at 12:38:17 Friday October 10 2003
John - what was the MW letter about to which you refer?
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:26:17 Friday October 10 2003
RSMW states ..."we are now actually in trouble" In response to this statement I would like to point out that if we were in the current league position and it was April then I might agree but it's only just turned October!!!! you Twat!!
Anon at 12:23:28 Friday October 10 2003
To CC JD Good luck ..and up the cobblers also i wouldnt lisen to too many of the wankers on here, they are a bunch of moaning bastards who have never played the game this was proven when we used to shoot the boot at have time...embarrassing or what
Macc Cobblers at 12:13:30 Friday October 10 2003
I have to say that I was surprised when the names of Calderwood and Deehan came to the fore - and only time will tell if it was a masterstroke or another in a litany of wrong appointments.
But I will be going to Rochdale tomorrow feeling more optimistic than I have done for a while - and I would echo the sentiments already expressed and say give them a chance and let's all get behind the team.
Its also going to take a while seeing CC written and not automatically thinking of Chris Carruthers.
Michael Jackson at 11:58:46 Friday October 10 2003
FAO Middlebill we all know that you now put in your tuppence worth anonymously you sad little wanker. Now bugger off unless u have sumthing to contribute to the discussion.
wanker: Pronunciation: 'wangkur n 1. an unpleasant person. Used as a general insult, literally: "one who masturbates."; terms of abuse for a masturbator; jerk-off; tosser
therealslimmartinw at 11:48:33 Friday October 10 2003
You have to admit this is hilarious. Talk about role reversal. We have a management team that has ooodles of potential a great mix of the experienced coach with good contacts at the highest level and great knowledge of the lower division, Deehan and the inexperienced but clearly talented coach of Premiership players with something to prove, Calderwood and there is still unhappiness. Big names are not the answer all the time. Although I would say these are big names in that every fan has heard of them. I think Cordoza has made a decision based on seeing all the options that looks to the future. I liked the fact that he dismissed those managers who talked money first. He has gone for a young up and coming coach with desire and sees what a great opportunity managing our club is married to someone who has been around. Martin Wilkinson had been there done that and failed abysmally even for us and yet we still employed him without considering other options. That was totally wrong and it is a decision that is costing and could continue to cost us. In a season when we could and should have had promotion in the right hands, we are now actually in trouble, which is unthinkable. I believe that with the new team we are in a different situation now but they need time to clear up the mess left by a succession of failures. It will be interesting to see if they have the same financial resources that Wilko had.
There are people who are only going to be interested in this job for the money they can get out of it and they are clearly not right for us. This is not a cheap option. I thought that Deehan on his own would be a surprise, but to have Calderwood as the main man with Deehan as the back up, is potentially a dream ticket. I think we have done well when you consider where we are in the table and that this club is perceived by some as poisoned chalice with the real possibility of relegation to the conference not to mention our record of hiring and firing with Richard Hill lasting TWO games. That's why Cordoza made it clear Calderwood is here for three years full stop. Its a message to him and the fans. Time will tell whether it works in terms of results and I for one hope that CC and JD are a massive success. But for the moment, and I know it will sound odd to some who believe I do nothing but moan, but please give these guys a chance and get behind the team.
john at 11:44:48 Friday October 10 2003
To all the moaners. Who was geniuely amazed at the appointment of Ian Atkins, I for one did not know anything about him and was initially sceptical and thought cheap appointment and we all know what happened. I have been going to trust meetings since Barnwell`s first one, and whilst i was intially suprised at the appointment of CC after hearing him speak he is the certainly the best speaker since the aforementioned Atkins. I believe he should be given every support and all fans now need to make sixfields a fortress by supporting loud and not allways criticising. On MW the letter that was read out was a testament to the man, whilst he may not have been the right man for the job, he geniuely had the club at heart and really wanted to do well for the town and the fans, and i hope that he can get back into football because in this current climate ,football needs a few people in it, like him
MKMal at 11:32:01 Friday October 10 2003
United Front - Of course they've got pacey forwards, they've got Gabbi
Nosey Parker at 11:23:54 Friday October 10 2003
LOL What a choice of manager. . .Nice to see you are going for a "Big name" what price was CC. No big name and do you know why. . .who the fuck wants to manage that shower of shit that we have there now. This has made my year let alone week. . ROFLMAO
Nosey Parker at 11:23:46 Friday October 10 2003
LOL What a choice of manager. . .Nice to see you are going for a "Big name" what price was CC. No big nmae and do you know why. . .who the fuck wants to manage that shower of shit that we have there now. This has made my year let alone week. . ROFLMAO
Cheshire Cob at 11:02:52 Friday October 10 2003
For the moaners and whingers ... Stop right now ... Instant fame does not happen look at Wigan, Cardiff, and dare I say it R&D. Wigan have had millions of punds pumped into them its taken several seasons and managers before hitting Div 1. They have a fantastic stadium but it is only a third full even in Div 1, and thats with the team being at the top half of the table. If us Cobblers fans are prepared to be paitent we will also have at team in Division 1, we all know by now that the Cardoza's hearts are now with this club, lets support the new coaching team and maybe just maybe in several years time we also will have a fantastic stadium in Div 1 like Wigan but our stadium will be full because the potential exsists within the town for the support, and you would be amazed about the support that even exists up here in the North, See you at Rochdale tommorow Byee
Richard at 10:59:58 Friday October 10 2003
iI think all the right noises are coming out of Sixfileds and Calderwood seems a very brave and forward thinking move. It is also a good move putting a more expereinced man in to help him out in the early part, Deehan has had some success at this level. However, I do have some worries, how many duo's/management teams actually work?? Over the last few years it has been fasionable to appoint a director of football, or something along those lines but they only seem to last 6 months or so as the two bosses have different ideas. Look at Redknapp at Portsmouth, Kevin and Kevan and NTFC, Adams and Bassett and Leicester, Houllier and Evans at Liverpool, in the end only one man is left standing.
I really hope this is the exeption to the rule, and I can see where the board are coming from and it does seem a good move. If all the thinks that are being said about Calderwood are true then we could be in for a good few years, especially with the Cardoza's financial backing.
Lets get behind the team, anything positive that comes from this season is a bonus now after our start, so lets give all the players a fresh start and get right behind them until the end of the season, if changes need to be made then, then so be it, until then lets enjoy supporting NTFC.
COBBLERS GHOSTl at 10:25:50 Friday October 10 2003
Lets get the facts straight, the high profile managers that applied for the managers job at the Cobblers were only interested in how much money and how much the job is worth,and can they bring their own back room staff with them. Some didnt even come for an interview. Calderwood didnt apply for the job he was approached by the Cobblers and his recomendations from other people in the game was second to none. Quotes from the Trust Meeting. Just for the records.
Norwich Cobbler at 10:20:27 Friday October 10 2003
Finally I believe we have a management team to be proud of.CC appears to know what he wants and certainly will command the respect of the players. Since when have we had a manager with such a playing pedigree? The backup of John Deehan is a superb decision. This man is a genuine guy with bags of ability - again at the highest level.I am pleased that David Cardoza has also said that this is it for the next 3 years - no more changes. Now its up to the supporters to do their job - support! No more moaning - give them time because they have the pedigree to sort out the club from top to bottom.The future is bright - the future is claret & white! Support the boys!
United Front at 09:51:27 Friday October 10 2003
Did anyone hear that Chris Carruthers got injured playing for England Under 20's last night? If he's out of tomorrows match (which must be likely) who will play at LB? Possibly Doig, but with Reid out we are deperately short of players (and pace) in the back line. Presumably Sammo will return, so a possible defence of Chambers, Sammo, Wilmott, Doig (lets just hope they don't have any pacy forwards).
FAO: LH at 09:21:43 Friday October 10 2003
Did you find the hotelender site? Did you like it? Did you enrol? Who R ya?
LH at 09:17:18 Friday October 10 2003
All cleared up & in the clear.
Don't think at 09:04:11 Friday October 10 2003
we'll get a loan player in Drilling as Calderwood said last night that he wanted to access the situation with the players he already has first. Dare say you will be right in future weeks though.
The Drilling Cobbler at 08:56:59 Friday October 10 2003
Not going tomorrow - I'm on international duty in Barrats on an all daya! The snooker hall turned pub has become somewhat of a lucky omen as far as big England games are concerned. The 5-1 win versus the Germans (and 1-0 win in Euro 2004), 1-0 Argentina and 2-2 Greece in particular were all watched on the big screen there. Whilst Brazil, Romania (Euro 2000) and other defeats were watched elsewhere. My record is currently unbeaten so expect the mercanery Rio Bandits to come through tomorrow! Back to Cobblers land, I fully expect somekind of POSITIVE reaction from the players tomorrow probably resulting in 3 points. I predict a 2-0 win, with Martin Smith scoring his first goal from open play. Did anyone tell them at last nights meeting that we desperately need a big man up front and a hard running, physical presence in midfield? (not a centreback!) Wouldnt be at all surprised to see someone brought in today on loan. Especially if the 'Delux Muppet' tapps up one of his many contacts! And for those going tomorrow (and especially at home next week) - all join in the 'Colin Calderwoods claret army / N.T.F.C. chant. Lets re-incarnate the togetherness/atmosphere last known during the good days of the Atkins reign.
Is that clear at 08:52:41 Friday October 10 2003
FAO: LH (at 08.35) I think you'll find that the post you refer to, FAO: FAO:LH at 23:42:28 , is actually having a go at the post FAO: LH at 22:53:57 and not your post LH at 22:40:37 . Therefore you post LH at 08:35:24 wasn't necessary. I hope that's clear!
CC at 08:45:49 Friday October 10 2003
CC
L H at 08:42:20 Friday October 10 2003
as in homer simpson
oxford english at 08:41:08 Friday October 10 2003
middlebill perhaps you could pass that dictionary onto the twat who posted at 02:00:25 Friday October 10 2003
he is so hell bent on being negative that he forgot how to spell FUTURE
LH at 08:36:18 Friday October 10 2003
Or even humour !
LH at 08:35:24 Friday October 10 2003
For whoever had a go at me Thurs 23.40 , for Gods sake lighten up and get a sense of homour.Cant you see a sarcastic/ take the piss post when its in front of you. Do you really think I thought he was a Postie ?
Middlebill at 08:04:57 Friday October 10 2003
Dear Slim, didn't want to post anymore, just keep a watching brief. However as you don't seem able to forget me, here's something from the dictionary which I think might help. Seek assistance!
One entry found for paranoia.
Main Entry: para·noia
Pronunciation: "par-&-'noi-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek, madness, from paranous demented, from para- + nous mind
Date: circa 1811
1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations
2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others
- para·noi·ac /-'noi-"ak, -'noi-ik/ also para·noic /-'noi(-i)k, -'nO-ik/ adjective or noun
- para·noi·cal·ly /-'noi(-i)-k(&-)lE, -'nO-i-k(&-)lE/ adverb
Matt Scott at 07:59:16 Friday October 10 2003
Give Peace a Chance
Calderwood at 07:08:47 Friday October 10 2003
Let's get started on our journey to the premiership!!!!!!!!!!
Pihuan at 06:57:39 Friday October 10 2003
A bit non-pluused at first, but these appointments started to sound like a pretty good idea as the day wore on, and feeling pretty good about it now. These are imaginative and forward looking appointments, and CC has a very good pedigree, and reflect the commitment of the Cardozas. Of course nobody can predict how it will pan out, and there are already negative tosspots getting in their digs so they can do a "told you so " if it doesnt work out. Good to see that RSM isnt one of them. Hope this set up is given a fair hearing, and the future is looking a little bit more rosy.Thanks to whoever put up the Walter Tull stats, I got the wrong end of the stick there, that play should be available on the BBC site till next tuesday. Hope that the Pig hasn't really found his way here, and that post was just a wind up. And whoever keeps posting that offensive stuff about Bexxy, grow up.
jimttc at 06:30:29 Friday October 10 2003
FAO: The Futres Bleak: What absolute pessimistic garbage. Well I am totally confident of the new managements success and am willing to put my money where my mouth is.I believe we will finish in at least a play off position and if you would like an even money wager of say £100 just drop me a e-mail.
A GOVERNMENT WEALTH WARNING: DO NOT BET MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE.
The futres bleak at 02:00:25 Friday October 10 2003
CC to be sacked within 20 games. How can they take a gamble like this we need experience not a fucking player turned manager who has a great record of P 0 W 0 L 0 D 0.I like the way cardoza said we need experience.the only fucking experience calderwood will have is from sitting on a bench for 90 minutes. Might be a slight bit pre judeged but i think we will end up bottom 5 at best.
Anon at 01:19:51 Friday October 10 2003
attn trb mark: it doesnt take a genius to know who you are. the time will comexxx
therealslimmartinw at 01:10:10 Friday October 10 2003
What a day. New up and coming manager and a director of football with contacts. And a chairman who said they are here for three years - full stop. If ever there was a statement of intent that was it. I for one am 100% behind this, the chemistry feels right and we can look forward to the future with more optimism than for some time. One thing. I don't think as fans we should be expecting promotion this season. I personally would be happy with a midtable position with a view to the duo creating a game plan for an assault next season. Anything else is bonus, as they say in the best football cliche schools.That's because they have a lot of work to do with the current squad and undoubtedly need to bring in at the very least a goalscorer. I'll mention his name again... Stan Collymore!!!. But it is interesting to see that CC is going to target players not getting a chance in the Premiership. Its a crying shame that this these guys werent in place last season when the £300,000+ was being spent. The future is bright, the future is claret!!! Come on you Cobblers!! PS Sorry anonymous Middletwat,you got it wrong AGAIN.
Thank you at 00:54:17 Friday October 10 2003
Thank you David CArdoza, for listening to Cobblers fans and appointing for the long term. Also thank you Tony Clarke, from what David said tonight it seems you have been there calling the shots on behalf of fans and contributing bigtime, I am not political but I know a friend of Northampton when I see one. Good luck Colin, good luck John and UTC
Hotel Ender at 23:48:29 Thursday October 9 2003
here, here Mark - but you'll still get shouted down by the miserable sods who love moaning - btw any chance or resurrecting JTJ?
TRB Mark at 23:44:59 Thursday October 9 2003
I can't beleive how negative some people are being, it's almost as though there is a hardcore of fans who want the team to fail just so they can scream abuse on a Saturday to compensate for their own inadequesies (like my spelling)and turn around after the damage is done and say "I told you so" They say that money is the root of all evil and it seems we were a much more harmonious bunch when we had no money, with our backs to the wall and came up fighting, despite everything. It's almost as if we want the Cardoza's money to do all the talking now instead of US fans doing our bit. That is giving the new management a decent chance and cheering the team on. Everyone wet themselves with excitement with the new signings , and the fact that we were spending money, only to be bitterely dissappointed. If you arn't over the moon now, wait a while and if we are winning games, it will seem all the sweeter.
FAO: FAO:LH at 23:42:28 Thursday October 9 2003
you shit stirring wanker - if you read Marvo's post it seems perfectly reasonable - Calderwood mentioned about not leaving the big city lights (his kids are ar school in London) - and Marvo said about big city lights would make a good song!! buyt as you;re obviously a Posh shite or Direone you wouldn't know the words to Fields of Green
Anon at 23:17:29 Thursday October 9 2003
http://www.thehotelend.cjb.net/
Ralph2 at 23:13:02 Thursday October 9 2003
I think its www.thehotelend.cjb.net
LH at 23:03:48 Thursday October 9 2003
Do us a favour & post the hotelender site address.
FAO: LH at 22:53:57 Thursday October 9 2003
Looks like you met the infamous Marvo. He has a report on the hotelender site and says in it that he made a comment about the city lights, though in London not MK. Anyway, you should have give him a slap.
Postie at 22:46:50 Thursday October 9 2003
Claret shirt eh? Strange thing to wear.
LH at 22:40:37 Thursday October 9 2003
Only one down side for me some big bloke at the back with a Claret shirt on kept on laughing . Couldnt hear a bloody word . Then asked a stupid question about the City lights in Milton Keynes ! Think he works for the Royal Mail , kept talking about posts & sites .
LH at 22:36:44 Thursday October 9 2003
Impressed with our new managenment team , I thing Big Dave could of found a winning formula . Calderwood very assured & confident ,admired Bournmouths young side for passing their way to promotion last year (a good sign , I hope). Big Dave rammed home the point that these guys are here to stay even if things dont work out early on. Deehan , obviously lot of experience & contacts will look after the admin & tedium side allowing Calderwoods & the teams talent
to develop. Feel very positive about the future. Nobody asked Peter Miller any questions about his business interests because he seems to be doing a very good job & maybe like me nobody could give a Monkeys.
change of name at 22:17:51 Thursday October 9 2003
does this mean we may be hearing from "therealslimcolincalderwood" how long will it take him to start slagging off the new manager.
Good luck Colin and team and of course to the Cobblers for the remainder of the season.
Old Stratford Cobbler at 22:10:46 Thursday October 9 2003
I guess the poster below is referring to Broadhurst. I think you'll find it wasn't the Cardozas that fired him!
Old Stratford Cobbler at 22:08:57 Thursday October 9 2003
Ade, yes he does know the lower divisions to a degree. Just back fron the Forum at Sixfields and the new CC started his career at Mansfield. He also said he watched a few Division 2 and 3 games last season in his role of reserve team manager at Tottenham. Am quite impressed with both Deehan and Calderwood. Good times are on the way!
so what we've got is... at 22:05:32 Thursday October 9 2003
...a good young ambitious manager with a reputation in the game! WE HAD ONE OF THOSE BEFORE YOU F*CKED HIM OFF!!!! Learn from your mistakes CARDOZA!
Gomez at 21:57:59 Thursday October 9 2003
Well my sources were wrong (oops) and it wasn't John Ward. But Calderwood seems like a good choice. COLIN CALDERWOODS CLARET ARMY!
Ade at 21:50:06 Thursday October 9 2003
All posts supporting or criticising are a waste of time as Calderwood is an unknown quantity....and I suppose that's the main problem, after 2 risks did we want another one??? But Cotterill and Dowie have only had success at one club and there is no reason why he cannot emulate them and we have a young promising manager. He does have vast International experience and has played for some very good managers. But does he know the lower divisions, seems we are about to find about. HOLD ON TIGHT!!!
Steve at 21:48:34 Thursday October 9 2003
Just got in from the Trust meeting. VERY impressed. Calderwood and Deehan said all the right things. Calderwood was recommended to the Cardozas by people at the highest level in the game. It sounds as though, after having checked out the current squad, he may be bringing in players from the Premiership reserve scene. deehan also has sound contacts at the Birmingham clubs. Believe me - today's appointments were spot on.
Steve at 21:46:59 Thursday October 9 2003
Just got in from the Trust meeting. VERY impressed. Calderwood and Deehan said all the right things. Calderwood was recommended to the Cardozas by people at the highest level in the game. It sounds as though, after having checked out the current squad, he may be bringing in players from the Premiership reserve scene. deehan also has sound contacts at the Birmingham clubs. Believe me - today's appointments were spot on.
steve at 21:40:27 Thursday October 9 2003
VERY IMPRESSED! WHO HAS EVER HEARD OF A POOR SCOTTISH MANAGER!! UP THE COBBLERS!!
Hello Colin at 21:00:07 Thursday October 9 2003
And Mr John too
new man at 20:41:58 Thursday October 9 2003
colin calderwood is on talk sport now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simon at 20:12:24 Thursday October 9 2003
I saw a stat on here the other day that said that we are offically the worst of the 92 clubs for hiring and firing managers. Is there any truth in this?
I just hope...... at 19:53:18 Thursday October 9 2003
that I can get in Bexxy's knickers, tommorrow as I am desperate to get my small dinkie in something warm, maybe I will stick it in my mothers mouth when she's asleep?
I just hope at 19:18:32 Thursday October 9 2003
that once, just once, that bloke who keeps pretending to be Bexxy lets his guard down. Then, well he'll see.
Pete Winkelman's Hairdresser at 19:09:35 Thursday October 9 2003
Listened to Calderwood and Deehan on the radio and was impressed with what I heard. Deehan sounds like a knowledgeable and articulate chap who is going to be a great ambassador for the club. And Calderwood sounds like the classic no nonsense, common sense scottish manager, that has been so successful over the years in English football. I've got a good feeling about this. UP THE COBBLERS!!!!!
New Manager at 19:07:52 Thursday October 9 2003
Sid - do I ask what wage you are on..............NO, then just fuck off and let me do my job. If you don't want to support the team or management - then fuck off and support Rushden or MK Dons...........you snivelling little excuse for a piece of shit.
Better still - link up with Bexxy and become a male prostitute!
Sid the Pig at 19:04:59 Thursday October 9 2003
David Cardoza states "the man we are after has experience in all three divisions, and is widely respected by everyone in the game".
So where the hell do Colin Calderwood and John Deehan fit in then?
Calderwood has never managed anyone before, and Deehan is a complete waste of money, do we honestly need a "Director of Football" for God's sake.
We are told that the other contenders priced themselves out of the running, but what is the combined wage of these two then?
There cannot surely be a price on promotion and success, so what exactly was their asking price?
New Manager at 18:58:39 Thursday October 9 2003
Thanks for all your comments of support. The people who annot show some solidarity and get behind the team, can make them selves known and I will personally see that you do not enter the stadium at Sixfields, whilst I am manager and he true fans can follow the successful upsurge which is NTFC
Bexxy at 18:39:08 Thursday October 9 2003
Just slept with the new manager - not particularly good in bed, although takes a lot to fill my welly of a fanny. He says that if the rest of the team go through me one after another, it may spur them onto greater things and we will become a premiership team from which I can then sleep with them again and get in the papers!
its at 18:37:28 Thursday October 9 2003
colin calderwood!!!! what are peoples thoughts on that???
What ??? at 18:33:26 Thursday October 9 2003
Fish for Supper
Fish for supper!!!!!! at 18:30:14 Thursday October 9 2003
Smelt a fish on this site ever since Wilko's departure, not sure whether he was right but just needed time to gel the new stars into the team?
Any thoughts?
Fingers crossed at 18:24:30 Thursday October 9 2003
God I hope your right Nick!
Bored Nick at 18:22:32 Thursday October 9 2003
I supposed we'd be disappointed if the purveyors of doom hadn't already written off the new management team. Lets hope beyond hope that these are in a very small minority, however whoever had taken over was going to be given very little slack by the fans, they will need instant results to keep the crowd off there's and the teams back. On a more positive note it appears the Club have the approval of Slim Martin, which means we will all get a rest from his constant swipes and gripes, until he changes his mind of course.
FAO SID (the pig) at 18:08:54 Thursday October 9 2003
Your going to like it on here Sid. There much more to your liking. Ignorant, rude, cowardly. Make yourself at home.
For the record at 18:08:42 Thursday October 9 2003
Sacking Broadhirst - big mistake. Appointing Fenwick - big mistake. Appointing Wilkinson - big mistake. Appointing Calderwood - ???????
Anon at 18:00:13 Thursday October 9 2003
Sid the Pig - Why would anyone want to say "We have a manager to be proud of" before a ball has been kicked under the new mans stewardship ? Why have you got them down as clowns - wheres the evidence ? They've both been in football until recently - so wrong again. You may be a PIG but try not to be PIG IGNORANT.
I hereby rename you SID THE IGNORANT PIG.
Puzzled Dan at 17:57:03 Thursday October 9 2003
have 2 say i am also totally puzzledby this. calderwood has no experience and has not exactly set the world alite as reserve team manager. what was wrong with all the other candidates? who were they? would luv 2 no who we turned down to get this non entity. deehan is best known for taking norwich down from the premiership and getting fired by wigan after taking them up to div 2 and struggling. hardly a recipe 4 optimism.
Sparko at 17:33:34 Thursday October 9 2003
Sid, We all know what you are brewing up to! This is now the perfect opportunity for you to default to the Direones! Go on f*ck off you half wit, make us all happy
MEDIA THOUGHTS at 17:29:44 Thursday October 9 2003
Having not learned from the Terry Fenwich debacle Northampton Town have appointed another former Spur as manager, step forward Colin Calderwood.
Fenwick was sacked last season after a shocking (and brief) spell in charge which saw them plummet to the bottom of Division Two - his replacement faired little better and as such they've been on the prowl for while.
Calderwood was the reserve team manager at The Lane but was probably concerned that he wouldn't be kept on at Spurs once the new manager finally came in - his results have been less than impressive really, though he has been more than happy to give youth a go, probably down to necessity more than a desire to promote players from the youth setup.
He has agreed to take the job at Sixfields, though no official statement has been made. Northampton are mid-table in the Third Division but had been tipped for automatic promotion
cobblers old boy at 17:23:17 Thursday October 9 2003
sid. we better get The Grim Reaper after you... you sad sod. Send for the REAPER
badger at 17:19:49 Thursday October 9 2003
sid the pig...... give them a chance mate, we are gota get it right some time, lets hope it's this time.....
Anon at 17:18:11 Thursday October 9 2003
oh dear a very bitter sidney cos his favourite wasn't picked again - Calderwood has been reserve team manager at Spurs - is that out of football?
cobblers old boy at 17:16:22 Thursday October 9 2003
minds a coke please
Sid the Pig at 17:16:15 Thursday October 9 2003
After years of waiting for the time when I could hold my head up and say "We have a manager to be proud of" I thought now was the time.
Instead of which we have ended up with two has beens and the role of laughing stock continues for all Cobblers fans.
These two clowns have been out of football almost as long as Terry Fenwick, and look what happened to him.
This is the worst possible scenario other than Fenwick and Wilko teaming up and making a comeback, still with the Cardoza's football knowledge, who knows.
badger at 17:15:05 Thursday October 9 2003
8.00 tonight.... buy your own drinks and one for me.... see you tonight....
badger at 17:12:55 Thursday October 9 2003
adam blackmore on radio Northampton at sixfields.... on now... get there now.....
Sparko at 17:12:04 Thursday October 9 2003
What time does the trust meeting start? Is there free booze?
badger at 17:09:26 Thursday October 9 2003
A supporters' Open Forum has been arranged by Northampton Town Supporters' Trust for Thursday 9th October at Sixfields at 8pm, invited guests are Club Chairman David Cardoza and Commercial Director Peter Miller.
As ever the meeting is open to all supporters and is free of charge.
.....Come on boys lets make it a good turn out for David Cardoza....we owe him a lot.
Newcastle and Leeds players at 17:08:56 Thursday October 9 2003
We do score in a minute!!
Hotel Ender at 17:08:41 Thursday October 9 2003
Saturday's team: Hagerty, F.; Hagerty, R. Thompkins, Noble, Carrick , Robeson, Crapper, Dewhurst, McIntyre, Tredmore, Davitt.
Copycat Season at 17:07:58 Thursday October 9 2003
Come on you Dixie!!
cobblers old boy at 16:50:27 Thursday October 9 2003
Yes Badger, and i'm got the vidio to remember it, happy days. Score in a minute we're goner score in a minute. I went to every home and away game, hill was magic.
badger at 16:37:38 Thursday October 9 2003
Those were the days my friend I hoped they would nether end. All good things come to an end, lets hope more good days will come very soon. Then home and away we can hold our heads up high like them days in the 80's. Come on you Cobblers
Anon at 16:25:56 Thursday October 9 2003
Give them 10 games, and then lets see if they can cut it...
cobblers old boy at 16:25:33 Thursday October 9 2003
He's big and is fat and he wears a silly hat, Graham Car, Graham Carr.
The gold old days, I hope they are coming back ? Score in a minute we’re gona score in a minute. And we did
The Real Abington Cobbler at 16:19:34 Thursday October 9 2003
I'm glad to see that the negative postings are gettting to be in the minority over the appointment of Deehan and Colin Calderwood. Calderwood was a terrific player (as was Deehan) and very highly thought of at Spurs as a coach. The combination of these two should sound alarm bells for sides in this division. Incidentally for all the statto's have a look at when Deehan took over at Wigan - they were in exactly the same position as we are at the moment, 16th. This is a winning team and we should get behind them - incidentally John Ward not coming had nothing to do with Calderwood being manager, more to do with other matters.
badger at 16:09:56 Thursday October 9 2003
Jackson 5......you sound a bit Posh...can you teach me some of those big words????...did you mean that you are in Northampton tonight and you are coming to the trust meeting ?.....Come on you Cobblers....
The Drilling Cobbler at 16:01:23 Thursday October 9 2003
Slim - "But the mixture of old head and relatively young coach with potential is a potent mix when it is right." I like the way you have covered yourself there mate - so the comparison with Wilko and Hill CANNOT be made!!!
I am very much warming to the combination, the more I think about it the more I can see the benefits. An up and coming coach and a 'delux muppet'! (I am taking the piss out of myself before anyone accuses me of being negative!) Lets all get behind them and try to make something of THIS season..
Anon at 16:01:07 Thursday October 9 2003
jackson 5, why? Are you an out of work bum living in the Sixfield car park??!!
Michael Jackson at 15:57:54 Thursday October 9 2003
Jackson 5, so that makes your dick bigger than anyones then. Don't forget who the star is!
Jackson 5 at 15:43:37 Thursday October 9 2003
I'll be there as fortunately My geographical location and work commitments make it POSSIBLE to attend.
therealslimmartinw at 15:42:44 Thursday October 9 2003
sorry united front, that was me, meant to be addressed to you
united front at 15:42:22 Thursday October 9 2003
ah that's newspaper-speak, dont worry too much about it. I remember back when Atkins was dumped in favour of Willo, we had an away match at Rochdale that was pivotal in the run we had to get promotion. Let history repeat itself on Saturday. Come on the Cobblers!!
Badger at 15:39:34 Thursday October 9 2003
Trust meeting tonight lads..... I hope you are all going.....see you there....village boy ....why don't you come along... we would all like to meet you.....wouldn't we lads ?
United Front at 15:31:36 Thursday October 9 2003
I wonder if the reason the discussions with Ward broke down was because he was offered Director of Football with Calderwood as team manager and he wanted to be sole manager. I guess we will never know (but I think its a bit rich that the C&E are suggesting that Deehan has pipped John Ward to the job).
therealslimmartinw at 15:24:07 Thursday October 9 2003
Its not surprsing they have gone for the director of football approach. Its a safe pair of experienced hands doing admin while a younger model makes mistakes as he learns his trade. As David Pleat, who has taken advice from Calderwood about the Tottenham players while taking the reins there said in the past, football management is "an awful job, a horrible job, yet the best job in the world". Yet he has for the past six years been Tottenham Hotspur's director of football, although now clearly revelling in the role he is now taking since Hoddle went. Harry Redknapp, while in charge of West Ham, used to yearn at stressful times for such a job - "hundred grand a year to sit in a nice office and watch a couple of games a week" - yet after a month of doing just that at Portsmouth admitted that he was bored silly: "the most unrewarding year of my life". In such situations, there is inevitably a possible source of conflict with a less experienced young manager making mistakes while the board have the option ofthe experienced man ready to keep the ship steady should he foul up. Understandable and it will be interesting to see how it works.
PNE at 15:22:16 Thursday October 9 2003
dont they have the crappiest Scots ex manager
TED McDOUGAL at 15:21:13 Thursday October 9 2003
He managed a florist (they sold Flour!!)
Anon at 15:17:30 Thursday October 9 2003
Come on Cobblers!!! I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.
Cardoza at 15:14:11 Thursday October 9 2003
OUT!!!
therealslimmartinw at 15:08:05 Thursday October 9 2003
Scottish managers, not forgetting Gordon Strachan and Burley.
therealslimmartinw at 15:06:13 Thursday October 9 2003
Rushden, watch out. The Cobblers ARE BACK!!!
Scottish Managers at 15:04:35 Thursday October 9 2003
Other than Colin Calderwood, Alex Ferguson, Danny Moyes, hmm sounds interesting
therealslimmartinw at 15:04:21 Thursday October 9 2003
No, this is genuine Alex Parks is the going to be a superstar enthusiasm. It's a great move. We canall argue that we could bring in this person and that person. But the mixture of old head and relatively young coach with potential is a potent mix when it is right. CC has nothing to lose and everything to gain from this. It's fantastic news for the club, there will be moans along the way, but he clearly has talent and has someone to guide him along the way. Interesting to see who the new assistant will be. The contacts these two will have in all levels of the game cannot be underestimated. Bring it on!!!
Come on lets get behind.... at 15:04:15 Thursday October 9 2003
THE ENGLAND RUGBY TEAM, not those poncey England Soccer ££££££££££ grabbers!!
Bazza at 15:03:16 Thursday October 9 2003
Is Colin Calderwood a bookie then?
Realism at 15:03:05 Thursday October 9 2003
Could they do any worse than the last jokers
Swindon Board at 15:02:54 Thursday October 9 2003
The swindon board were calling for Cotterill or Calderwood to replace king and Calderwood seemed to have been the favorite
Dave Bowen was a gamble at 15:02:08 Thursday October 9 2003
He was an owner of a Bookies (just like Peter Barlow!!!)
Bazza at 14:59:34 Thursday October 9 2003
Wasn't Dave Bowen something of a gamble or Graham Carr?
How at 14:59:01 Thursday October 9 2003
Well we all missed that one didn't we. Everyone was going on about the names in the frame and we did not give credit to the board as being able to look beyond the headline appointments. No one mentioned Calderwood, did he apply or was he approached? A great appointment in my book
Badger at 14:56:59 Thursday October 9 2003
At 4.00 pm we will know for sure........ lets get behide them both....come on you COBBLERS......village boy...GET LOST...
therealslimmartinw at 14:56:47 Thursday October 9 2003
United Front, exactamundo senor. The future is bright... doesnt it feel good.
First jobs at 14:56:41 Thursday October 9 2003
Drilling you are right about first management jobs as you say everyone has been saying lets get Dowie or Cotterill but who would have sung their praises unless Oldham and Cheltenham had took the risk. The mixture of Calderwood and Deehan sounds like a very astute move to me 2 assistant managers snatched from the Prem to strike up a partnership in Div3 for a club in our position the baord has worked wonders to get two people of such high calibre to sign. RSM was that a whiff of optimism in your last post or was it irony?
United Front at 14:55:31 Thursday October 9 2003
I suppose now that its had a chance to sink in, the Calderwood/Deehan partnership has definite potential. Calderwood has the knowledge of the Premiership and has been in charge of Tottenham's reserves and youngsters for a while now. Deehan has a good knowledge of the lower divisions and between them they must have a vast network of contacts in the game. Also, Calderwood will be determined to make a mark in his first managerial post and he has always struck me as being a hard, disciplined defender. All in all reasons to be optimistic.
Bazza at 14:53:12 Thursday October 9 2003
DRILLING, so are they The Great Gonzo & Animal the drummer or Kermit & Fozzy?
Anon at 14:52:14 Thursday October 9 2003
The Grim Reaper must be thinking about buying a season ticket for Sixfields.
Sparko at 14:52:02 Thursday October 9 2003
Its Calderwood!!! wicked appointment!! Come on Cobblers!
Calderwood at 14:51:44 Thursday October 9 2003
If the Calderwood rumours are true then Spurs fans will go mad, Calderwood was seen as a future Spurs manager and they have invested heavilly in his traing and coaching skills, for the Cobblers to have poached him seems to be far fetched but if it happens we could have signed one of the most promising young managers around.
therealrealslimmartinw at 14:50:58 Thursday October 9 2003
Taking everything into account, with the mess the club is in... Colin Calderwood be our Chris Coleman!!!! All hail King Colin!!
village boy at 14:41:13 Thursday October 9 2003
Send for the Grim Reaper
The Drilling Cobbler at 14:38:07 Thursday October 9 2003
So assuming Radio N'ton are right, Colin Calderwood is the new boss with John Deehan as Director Of Football. A HUGE HUGE gamble. Even the most optimistic of supporters must realise that? Its CC's first managers job - then again it was in the case of Dowies (Oldham), Cotterils (Cheltenham), Parkin (Rochdale), Graydon (Walsall) etc. Many of who have been linked to the post. At least nobody can scruitinise his record - he hasnt got one! A very strange decision by the Cordoza's - but then it was a strange decision to put Chris Coleman incharge at Fulham. It might work, it might not work. None of us can possibly no. However, I find it very strange that we can afford to bid 400k for a single player yet are not prepared to take the plunge and bring in a 'proven' manager. The playing side of the club is in a real mess and I would have thought that it would have been more prudent to haven taken a safer option. Thats the last I will personally say on the matter - it will be detrimental to the teams chances if the supporters do not hale this as a new beginning. Starting on Saturday. If you are reading this JD and CC - Good luck lads, the Drilling Cobbler is right behind you!
Middlebill Spotter at 14:37:19 Thursday October 9 2003
Why don't you just post under the name Middlebill again? We all know it's you. It's like you're running scared of being picked on for your views. It's only words, they can't really hurt you.
therealslimmartinw at 14:33:43 Thursday October 9 2003
I think it is fascinating, myself. The job itself is being seen as a poisoned chalice by all accounts and we should for the sake of the club back it. Up and coming talent alongside experienced head. It may not be Kinnear, but would he take such a job where heads were flying right left and centre. If we were going to get a star name we would have got that last season, before Wilko had worked his magic on the team. The damage has been done, we need someone now to pick up the pieces and nobody with a name would, in my view, want to take up this position when you are in a hiding to nothing. If you have a name and Northampton continue downwards, career is ruined. For Colin Calderwood, it is a great opportunity to get on the management ladder with Deehan helping him without being in a position to carry the can if it goes wrong. Will be interesting to see how the arrangement works but hey lets start moving up the table. The crucial thing is for Colin Calderwood to mould a team, get a goalscorer and get us moving upwards. Its a great opportunity for him I hope as a fellow Scot, of sorts, he does the business.
Miss Piggys Curly Tail at 14:32:42 Thursday October 9 2003
Has someone brought the creator of the muppets back to life? Is our chairman really Jim Henson? If the rumours are true, I'd place John Deehan and Colin Calderwood one level above Carlton Palmer. I fear we are about to stumble from one crisis to another but I pray to God I'm wrong.
Nowhere near long enough at 14:30:09 Thursday October 9 2003
TRSMW was quoted as being "Gobstruck" at 14.15.48. Just one minute and 21 seconds later he had found his voice again. Why do the good times never last?
Says it all! at 14:26:38 Thursday October 9 2003
My geographical location and work commitments make it impossible to attend.
Disgrace at 14:24:47 Thursday October 9 2003
Some of the postings below are a disgrace The doom merchants are out before an announcement has even been made. Everyone has an opinion and most of them as usual are negative. Realslimartin is already busy with his stats on Deehan as manager prompting other unhelpful comments and yet we dont know what role if any he will play If the Chron is right and its Director of Football then it looks good to me (what are your stats on Directors of Football rsm?) And Colin Calderwood who is thought good enough to be no 2 at Spurs and was on the bench last Saturday on MOTD/Premiership cant be given the job because its his first? What rot, it sounds like the right balance of Youth and expieriance to me but what would I know I am just a humble Cobblers fan and have not got the footballing knowledge of rsm and drilling to advise my comments. Perhaps the Cardozas should have appointed Erikson or Martin O'Niell or said to people like Dowie name your price we will be stupid enough to pay it? Maybe they should have sent letters to all the applicants saying having applied at Northampton Town you must withdraw all your other applications as rsm and drilling want a name whatever the cost? Has anyone got anything positive to say? if not I suggest silence might be the best policy before we condemn another manager to fail before he has even begun
Onemore time for luck at 14:24:28 Thursday October 9 2003
therealrealslimmartinw at 12:18:38 Thursday October 9 2003 John Deehan: In Norwich, there is a question mark over whether John Deehan will be remembered as one of Norwich's great goalscorers or as the manager that presided over the rapid decline of Norwich's fortunes that dropped them into Division One with as yet no return to the Premiership ? The Solihull born footballer Won international recognition for his goalscoring, he gained 7 England Youth and 11 Under 21 caps before sitting on the bench for a full international against Brazil. His first coaching position came when teaming up with Mel Machin as player-coach with Manchester City. After Machin's sacking as manager of Man City in November 1989, he initially took the caretaker manager's position for two weeks until Howard Kendall was appointed. In January 1990, he teamed once again with Machin at Barnsley as Assistant to Machin's managerial role. In June 1992, he returned to Carrow Road as Assistant Manager to Mike Walker. The Walker-Deehan partnership brought City their most successful season finishing third in the Carling Premiership and qualifying for Europe. Success in the UEFA Cup over Vitesse Arnhem and Bayern Munich led to a high profile tie with Inter Milan that saw City lose a respectable 2-0 on aggregate. Disillusioned with Robert Chase's lack of ambition and unwillingness to invest further funds into the City side led Mike Walker to accept the manager's position at Everton in January 1994. John Deehan was appointed as manager of the Canaries. The remainder of that season saw Norwich win only twice and slip to 12th place. The summer sales of Chris Sutton, Colin Woodthorpe and David Smith, following that of Ruel Fox the previous February, saw the money invested in a solid defence with Carl Bradshaw, Jon Newsome and defensive midfielder Mike Milligan all arriving at Carrow Road. However Sutton was not replaced until August 26th when Mike Sheron signed for £800,000 less than 20% of what Sutton's move had generated. Despite the further sales of striker Efan Ekoku and goalkeeper Scott Howie, Norwich were in a strong position come Christmas and were in seventh place taking 30 points from their first 19 matches. This was primarily due to their strong defence but this was overturned with an injury to goalkeeper Bryan Gunn on 27th December 1994 at Nottingham Forest. Deehan described his last days at Carrow Road as "like I'd been in a car crash and I could either sit there and look at the wreckage of what had happened and dither around or get up and start walking. I got up and started walking" Deehan blamed chairman Robert Chase's insistence on selling Norwich's stars without investing the transfer fees received into the playing side. In the aforementioned interview, Deehan wrote "What I can't forgive Robert Chase is that he made life difficult for my family and I think I was probably a bit ill myself in the end. I was going home and not sleeping because I was trying to come up with the answer to an equation that was unanswerable - how to help a young side stay in the Premiership with no money". After a brief spell with non-leaguers Wrexham, Deehan was appointed manager of Wigan Athletic in November 1995 with former Canary number two John Benson by his side. In season 1996/97, he led Wigan to the Division Three championship but his position but went as Wigan struggled in Division Two. Although Wigan recovered to gain midtable security, John quit his position in July 1998 to join Steve Bruce at Sheffield United as first team Coach. Deehan hit the headlines on 21st November 1998 when he was arrested for "threatening behaviour" (swearing) at Sheffield United's away game with Queen's Park Rangers. Deehan followed Steve Bruce to Huddersfield in June 1999 with Deehan acting again as Bruce's Assistant Manager. Following Bruce's sacking on 16th October 2000, Deehan and Lou Macari were placed in charge of the United first team for the 3-0 defeat at Sheffield United. Macari was appointed manager with Joe Jordan as his assistant. Deehan would stay at Huddersfield as first team coach.Deehan completed a dream move when John Gregory appointed him as Aston Villa's first team coach on July 20th 2001. He was promoted to Assistant Manager in November 2001 with Stuart Gray acting as first team coach. Following Gregory's resignation on 24 January 2002, Deehan and Gray took over the management responsibilities until someone else could be appointed. That person was Graham Taylor. Deehan and Gray remained with Villa until early June 2003. Following a poor season where Villa narrowly avoided relegation, Graham Taylor parted company with the club. David O'Leary was appointed as the new manager, and as such wanted to bring in his own management team. Thus Deehan and Gray left Villa Park on June 11th 2003. The following month saw Deehan return to Portman Road, appointed as a part-time scout within Joe Royle's management team. Interesting to note that many of the managers he has worked under or been replaced by are now out of work and available? Management career: 231 games, 86 wins, 84 lost,61 drawn.
Anon at 14:23:58 Thursday October 9 2003
In case you missed it the first time at 14:19:11 Thursday October 9 2003
therealrealslimmartinw at 12:18:38 Thursday October 9 2003
John Deehan: In Norwich, there is a question mark over whether John Deehan will be remembered as one of Norwich's great goalscorers or as the manager that presided over the rapid decline of Norwich's fortunes that dropped them into Division One with as yet no return to the Premiership ? The Solihull born footballer Won international recognition for his goalscoring, he gained 7 England Youth and 11 Under 21 caps before sitting on the bench for a full international against Brazil. His first coaching position came when teaming up with Mel Machin as player-coach with Manchester City. After Machin's sacking as manager of Man City in November 1989, he initially took the caretaker manager's position for two weeks until Howard Kendall was appointed. In January 1990, he teamed once again with Machin at Barnsley as Assistant to Machin's managerial role. In June 1992, he returned to Carrow Road as Assistant Manager to Mike Walker. The Walker-Deehan partnership brought City their most successful season finishing third in the Carling Premiership and qualifying for Europe. Success in the UEFA Cup over Vitesse Arnhem and Bayern Munich led to a high profile tie with Inter Milan that saw City lose a respectable 2-0 on aggregate. Disillusioned with Robert Chase's lack of ambition and unwillingness to invest further funds into the City side led Mike Walker to accept the manager's position at Everton in January 1994. John Deehan was appointed as manager of the Canaries. The remainder of that season saw Norwich win only twice and slip to 12th place. The summer sales of Chris Sutton, Colin Woodthorpe and David Smith, following that of Ruel Fox the previous February, saw the money invested in a solid defence with Carl Bradshaw, Jon Newsome and defensive midfielder Mike Milligan all arriving at Carrow Road. However Sutton was not replaced until August 26th when Mike Sheron signed for £800,000 less than 20% of what Sutton's move had generated. Despite the further sales of striker Efan Ekoku and goalkeeper Scott Howie, Norwich were in a strong position come Christmas and were in seventh place taking 30 points from their first 19 matches. This was primarily due to their strong defence but this was overturned with an injury to goalkeeper Bryan Gunn on 27th December 1994 at Nottingham Forest. Deehan described his last days at Carrow Road as "like I'd been in a car crash and I could either sit there and look at the wreckage of what had happened and dither around or get up and start walking. I got up and started walking" Deehan blamed chairman Robert Chase's insistence on selling Norwich's stars without investing the transfer fees received into the playing side. In the aforementioned interview, Deehan wrote "What I can't forgive Robert Chase is that he made life difficult for my family and I think I was probably a bit ill myself in the end. I was going home and not sleeping because I was trying to come up with the answer to an equation that was unanswerable - how to help a young side stay in the Premiership with no money". After a brief spell with non-leaguers Wrexham, Deehan was appointed manager of Wigan Athletic in November 1995 with former Canary number two John Benson by his side. In season 1996/97, he led Wigan to the Division Three championship but his position but went as Wigan struggled in Division Two. Although Wigan recovered to gain midtable security, John quit his position in July 1998 to join Steve Bruce at Sheffield United as first team Coach. Deehan hit the headlines on 21st November 1998 when he was arrested for "threatening behaviour" (swearing) at Sheffield United's away game with Queen's Park Rangers. Deehan followed Steve Bruce to Huddersfield in June 1999 with Deehan acting again as Bruce's Assistant Manager. Following Bruce's sacking on 16th October 2000, Deehan and Lou Macari were placed in charge of the United first team for the 3-0 defeat at Sheffield United. Macari was appointed manager with Joe Jordan as his assistant. Deehan would stay at Huddersfield as first team coach.Deehan completed a dream move when John Gregory appointed him as Aston Villa's first team coach on July 20th 2001. He was promoted to Assistant Manager in November 2001 with Stuart Gray acting as first team coach. Following Gregory's resignation on 24 January 2002, Deehan and Gray took over the management responsibilities until someone else could be appointed. That person was Graham Taylor. Deehan and Gray remained with Villa until early June 2003. Following a poor season where Villa narrowly avoided relegation, Graham Taylor parted company with the club. David O'Leary was appointed as the new manager, and as such wanted to bring in his own management team. Thus Deehan and Gray left Villa Park on June 11th 2003. The following month saw Deehan return to Portman Road, appointed as a part-time scout within Joe Royle's management team. Interesting to note that many of the managers he has worked under or been replaced by are now out of work and available? Management career: 231 games, 86 wins, 84 lost,61 drawn.
In case you missed it the first time at 14:18:41 Thursday October 9 2003
therealrealslimmartinw at 12:18:38 Thursday October 9 2003
John Deehan: In Norwich, there is a question mark over whether John Deehan will be remembered as one of Norwich's great goalscorers or as the manager that presided over the rapid decline of Norwich's fortunes that dropped them into Division One with as yet no return to the Premiership ? The Solihull born footballer Won international recognition for his goalscoring, he gained 7 England Youth and 11 Under 21 caps before sitting on the bench for a full international against Brazil. His first coaching position came when teaming up with Mel Machin as player-coach with Manchester City. After Machin's sacking as manager of Man City in November 1989, he initially took the caretaker manager's position for two weeks until Howard Kendall was appointed. In January 1990, he teamed once again with Machin at Barnsley as Assistant to Machin's managerial role. In June 1992, he returned to Carrow Road as Assistant Manager to Mike Walker. The Walker-Deehan partnership brought City their most successful season finishing third in the Carling Premiership and qualifying for Europe. Success in the UEFA Cup over Vitesse Arnhem and Bayern Munich led to a high profile tie with Inter Milan that saw City lose a respectable 2-0 on aggregate. Disillusioned with Robert Chase's lack of ambition and unwillingness to invest further funds into the City side led Mike Walker to accept the manager's position at Everton in January 1994. John Deehan was appointed as manager of the Canaries. The remainder of that season saw Norwich win only twice and slip to 12th place. The summer sales of Chris Sutton, Colin Woodthorpe and David Smith, following that of Ruel Fox the previous February, saw the money invested in a solid defence with Carl Bradshaw, Jon Newsome and defensive midfielder Mike Milligan all arriving at Carrow Road. However Sutton was not replaced until August 26th when Mike Sheron signed for £800,000 less than 20% of what Sutton's move had generated. Despite the further sales of striker Efan Ekoku and goalkeeper Scott Howie, Norwich were in a strong position come Christmas and were in seventh place taking 30 points from their first 19 matches. This was primarily due to their strong defence but this was overturned with an injury to goalkeeper Bryan Gunn on 27th December 1994 at Nottingham Forest. Deehan described his last days at Carrow Road as "like I'd been in a car crash and I could either sit there and look at the wreckage of what had happened and dither around or get up and start walking. I got up and started walking" Deehan blamed chairman Robert Chase's insistence on selling Norwich's stars without investing the transfer fees received into the playing side. In the aforementioned interview, Deehan wrote "What I can't forgive Robert Chase is that he made life difficult for my family and I think I was probably a bit ill myself in the end. I was going home and not sleeping because I was trying to come up with the answer to an equation that was unanswerable - how to help a young side stay in the Premiership with no money". After a brief spell with non-leaguers Wrexham, Deehan was appointed manager of Wigan Athletic in November 1995 with former Canary number two John Benson by his side. In season 1996/97, he led Wigan to the Division Three championship but his position but went as Wigan struggled in Division Two. Although Wigan recovered to gain midtable security, John quit his position in July 1998 to join Steve Bruce at Sheffield United as first team Coach. Deehan hit the headlines on 21st November 1998 when he was arrested for "threatening behaviour" (swearing) at Sheffield United's away game with Queen's Park Rangers. Deehan followed Steve Bruce to Huddersfield in June 1999 with Deehan acting again as Bruce's Assistant Manager. Following Bruce's sacking on 16th October 2000, Deehan and Lou Macari were placed in charge of the United first team for the 3-0 defeat at Sheffield United. Macari was appointed manager with Joe Jordan as his assistant. Deehan would stay at Huddersfield as first team coach.Deehan completed a dream move when John Gregory appointed him as Aston Villa's first team coach on July 20th 2001. He was promoted to Assistant Manager in November 2001 with Stuart Gray acting as first team coach. Following Gregory's resignation on 24 January 2002, Deehan and Gray took over the management responsibilities until someone else could be appointed. That person was Graham Taylor. Deehan and Gray remained with Villa until early June 2003. Following a poor season where Villa narrowly avoided relegation, Graham Taylor parted company with the club. David O'Leary was appointed as the new manager, and as such wanted to bring in his own management team. Thus Deehan and Gray left Villa Park on June 11th 2003. The following month saw Deehan return to Portman Road, appointed as a part-time scout within Joe Royle's management team. Interesting to note that many of the managers he has worked under or been replaced by are now out of work and available? Management career: 231 games, 86 wins, 84 lost,61 drawn.
therealslimmartinw at 14:17:09 Thursday October 9 2003
told you so/Middletwat, Well I am surprised! Your point?
therealslimmartinw at 14:15:48 Thursday October 9 2003
Heard Radio Northampton 2pm bulletin - new management team officially announcement at 4. Expected to be CC team manager and Deehan as director of football. Worked to gether at Aston Villa CC as player Deehan as coach. CC leaves reserve coach at spurs to come here. Will be fascinating how the two roles work together and who is in charge of team affairs, says the bulletin. Am gobstruck
I told you so at 14:12:39 Thursday October 9 2003
Bazza: Dont be so hard on TRSMW, he did state this earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!therealslimmartinw at 10:43:14 Thursday October 9 2003
Drilling, absolutely with you on Deehan but i would be very surprised if he was the face introduced today, if indeed we get a press conference today.
SUPPORTING THE COBBLER is: at 14:11:28 Thursday October 9 2003
1. never boring 2. reminds me how pathetic some of our fans are 3. a rollercoaster 4. no good for the feint hearted
and did you know at 14:04:45 Thursday October 9 2003
Colin Calderwood has never managed a team before. Ho NO !
Please god at 14:03:21 Thursday October 9 2003
Not Deehan............bring back Wilko
Did you know at 13:58:00 Thursday October 9 2003
Colin Calderwood joined Mansfield Town from School as there is no Scotland club offering him a chance to become professional. He have learn his trade at Mansfield before moving to Swindon Town for £30,000 which he blossomed under Glenn Hoddle and Ossie Ardiles. He help Swindon Town to win Division 4 Championship with a record breaking 102 points during 1985-86 season. He also captained the team that beat Leceister City 4-3 for a place in old first division. He play over 330 games for Swindon before moving to Tottenham Hotspur for £1,250,000 in June 1993. He stayed there for 6 season under Ossie Ardiles, Gerry Francis and Christain Gross, and George Graham. He play in heart of Tottenham defence with England International defender Sol Campbell and Switerzland Defender Ramon Vega.
Colin Calderwood had signed for Aston Villa on 26th March 1999. He is an experienced old fashioned central defender who was brought to deputise Ugo Ehiogu, who was out with serious eye injury and given much needed stability in Villa's back 4 in a bid to end nightmare run. He have won over Villa fans despite being an old man who can't get in Spurs team. Colin give us much needed experience and cool head in Villa team with many young players. He recently brought a flat and move into the Midlands. Aston Villa have taken over Colin Calderwood's old contract at Spurs and an option to extend it for a year. He was out of favour at Tottenham, and miss out the chance to win a League Cup medal as he is not selected.
Colin had made his Scotland's debut against Russia in 1995 European Championship qualifier in Moscow which Scotland drew 0-0. He help Scotland to qualify for Euro 96 in England and World Cup in France 1998. Colin have been impressive in World Cup as he play against mighty Brazil with an bandaged arm. He lost his place in Scotland team because he couldn't get a place in George Graham's Tottenham team. His move to Villa Park gave him regular football which end up a surprised recall for Scotland against Faroe Islands to add his 33 caps. He often partner with Glasgow Rangers defender Colin Hendry.
He is a qualified FA and SFA Coach which he prepared to enter coaching once he hang up his boots. He already coached Tottenham kids, so perhap he will be future coach for Aston Villa.
He left Aston Villa for Nottingham Forest on 14th March 2000 and play successful part of avoiding relegation for David Platt's Nottingham Forest. As Colin is 35 and probably will play his last season before hanging up his boots to do football coaching.
Colin Calderwood had recently hung up his boots as he failed to beat his back injury which end his 20 seasons long career which mean he had a long and successful playing career.
Up to 2001
LH at 13:53:35 Thursday October 9 2003
I meant dont !!
LH at 13:52:55 Thursday October 9 2003
Why do we comment when we know the truth , then ask questions later
at the Trust forum ?
Badger at 13:52:26 Thursday October 9 2003
Deehan D of F Calderwood manager, Radio Northampton news 1.30pm
Lets get behide them right from the start lads.
Come on you Cobblers......
BlackpoolCobbler at 13:43:02 Thursday October 9 2003
Calderwood must surely be best mates with Deehan?
Bazza at 13:41:25 Thursday October 9 2003
Deehan D of F Calderwood manager, Radio Northampton, official confirmation later
therealslimmartinw at 13:38:58 Thursday October 9 2003
Official announcement this afternoon, but this radio 5 story is a ruse, right. Pranksters at it.
Anon at 13:35:07 Thursday October 9 2003
All I hope for is that after the mixed receptions Fenwick and Wilko got upon there appointments - whoever is named as the new man gets as much backing as possible from the supporters.
Fenwick and Wilko were never gonna be here long as the fans had the knives out from day one and as soon as things went wrong calls for their heads would come. Lets all try to make the new man feel welcome at sixfields and get this team pushing up the table. Having said that if it had been Carlton Palmer appointed I would have give them back there season ticket to shove up their @rse. Up the Cobblers
Anon at 13:34:25 Thursday October 9 2003
So is that Calderwood and Deehan, or deehan and wilkinson??????
Bexxy at 13:33:42 Thursday October 9 2003
WHAT THE ????
Who the hell is it?? All this speculation is driving me mad!!!
therealslimmartinw at 13:30:31 Thursday October 9 2003
Colin Calderwood has no management experience, last played for Notts County in May, 2001. But his initials match those of this site, which is a good thing.
Total bullsh*t at 13:26:31 Thursday October 9 2003
Its a fact, its a fact, its a fact
Anon at 13:24:43 Thursday October 9 2003
Blackpool Cobbler - it's a fact - just heard it myself.
Why? at 13:23:39 Thursday October 9 2003
Will be v. interested to hear why CC was appointed - if it turns out to be true - cos I can't see how he matches the criteria.
BlackpoolCobbler at 13:23:32 Thursday October 9 2003
Big Ears - Is this fact or just a wind up?
Sweaty at 13:23:12 Thursday October 9 2003
Atkins and Carr had a great records before they joined us, and went on to dizzy new heights? Er no actually. Give the new guy a chance. Barnwell had bags of experience and contacts and finished us bottom. Deehan wouldnt be my automatic choice, but give the new guy a chance for ****s sake.
Radio Ham at 13:19:58 Thursday October 9 2003
John Deehan manager - Wilko back as director of football, just heard it on Five Live
Anon at 13:18:34 Thursday October 9 2003
Colin Calderwood's magagement experience anyone ?
DEK at 13:16:28 Thursday October 9 2003
I will be more interested in the type and style of his football team and what he can get them to achieve than worrying too much about past history. Having said that I believe that the club / town needed a lift and a buzz, someone that people would sit up and take notice of. Both Deehan and Ward are both low profile especially against some of the names mentioned. It will be interesting to hear from the chairman WHY those choose ????
big ears at 13:03:34 Thursday October 9 2003
just been on the radio. colin calderwood will be new manager. deehan will be director of football official announcement later
Anon at 13:02:47 Thursday October 9 2003
Anon at 12:58:16 - Deehan won promotion with Wigan in Division Three. Hardly constitutes limited lower division success. Most managers would love to have that accolade.
Anon at 13:00:28 Thursday October 9 2003
So here we go again. Moaning about the new manager before he's been appointed! Give whoever comes in a chance for god sake and stop banging on 'past records'. It's NOW we have to think about, and whoever does come in could be the catalyst to change our ways. You lot would moan if the manager had never lost a match in his life........
BlackpoolCobbler at 12:59:36 Thursday October 9 2003
Tag - I have this awful feeling that the Chron on right on this one. Regardless, like Vince stated if we start picking up points then we will all be singing his praises and saying what a good choice it was. It's a game of if's and buts i'm afraid!
Anon at 12:58:16 Thursday October 9 2003
John Ward : Proven lower division manager - demonstrates consistency.
John Deehan : Successful player and assistant manager at a higher level but only limited lower division exposure/success.
Tag at 12:55:22 Thursday October 9 2003
Say it's not John Deehan, please, someone. The Chron is having a laugh arent' they???
BlackpoolCobbler at 12:54:22 Thursday October 9 2003
I have a really bad feeling about this! I hope I proved to be wrong.
therealrealslimmartinw at 12:54:03 Thursday October 9 2003
Vince, totally agree. Although there were a lot on the list who if appointed here, Kinnear, Ward, Dowie to name just a few would have been very exciting. Deehan isnt in that mould with a patchy career so far. But we would find it difficult to get a go-getter with our record now for hiring and firing and our precarious position in the football league. Was talking to an ex colleague working for a paper in Carlisle about this last night, and Ward seemed to hint that you could be on a hiding to nothing with Northampton. Still, it would be interesting to know which managers were turned down to appoint Deehan, if indeed it is him. But I would say a manager's past record is crucial to his appointment in the same way as it is in any appointment. You want someone who has the best credentials for any job, that's just common sense. I cannot see how anyone to suggest otherwise.
BlackpoolCobbler at 12:52:28 Thursday October 9 2003
If it is to be John Deehan then why do I feel gutted?
Anon at 12:50:43 Thursday October 9 2003
We must get John Ward and NOT John Deehan.
Anon at 12:47:44 Thursday October 9 2003
John Deehan will be a disaster waiting to happen...
Bazza at 12:47:39 Thursday October 9 2003
VINCE, It'll have to be sooner 'cos later doesn't exist for our managers.
Vince at 12:45:29 Thursday October 9 2003
Drilling, my view remains that we have to wait and see what any new manager or management team produces on the pitch so I won’t be doing cartwheels (metaphorical or otherwise) whoever is appointed but I won’t be calling them muppets (de luxe or otherwise) before they have even started. I know that a lot of effort and thought has been put into the matter and like us all I just want us to start winning games and challenge for a promotion place. Analysing potential managers past records is OK and helpful to a point but the real test is how his new team performs. The Cardoza’s have listened to the fans concerns over Wilkinson and Hill and have done their level best to get it right this time. Lets hope that whoever is appointed does well and sooner or later gets the full backing of all fans.
Tag at 12:44:52 Thursday October 9 2003
Is the Deehan appointment for real?
Anon at 12:42:58 Thursday October 9 2003
One Kevan Broadhirst, there's only ....
Bazza at 12:35:23 Thursday October 9 2003
RSMW,yeah? Well if I want look up his career details I can do it on line just like you did, I don't need it spoonfed.
therealslimmartinw at 12:28:09 Thursday October 9 2003
Bazza, its his fucking career you toss pot!!
Bazza at 12:26:36 Thursday October 9 2003
It could be that we offered Coterill/Ward the job but they thought that Tranmere/Stockport gave them better prospects, security, etc. Didn't Wilko say that it is difficult to get players to come to Div. 3? Perhaps it's the same for managers. I see that RSMW has gone back to long and tedious after a breif dalliance with succinct and to the point.
therealrealslimmartinw at 12:18:38 Thursday October 9 2003
John Deehan: In Norwich, there is a question mark over whether John Deehan will be remembered as one of Norwich's great goalscorers or as the manager that presided over the rapid decline of Norwich's fortunes that dropped them into Division One with as yet no return to the Premiership ? The Solihull born footballer Won international recognition for his goalscoring, he gained 7 England Youth and 11 Under 21 caps before sitting on the bench for a full international against Brazil.
His first coaching position came when teaming up with Mel Machin as player-coach with Manchester City. After Machin's sacking as manager of Man City in November 1989, he initially took the caretaker manager's position for two weeks until Howard Kendall was appointed. In January 1990, he teamed once again with Machin at Barnsley as Assistant to Machin's managerial role.
In June 1992, he returned to Carrow Road as Assistant Manager to Mike Walker. The Walker-Deehan partnership brought City their most successful season finishing third in the Carling Premiership and qualifying for Europe. Success in the UEFA Cup over Vitesse Arnhem and Bayern Munich led to a high profile tie with Inter Milan that saw City lose a respectable 2-0 on aggregate. Disillusioned with Robert Chase's lack of ambition and unwillingness to invest further funds into the City side led Mike Walker to accept the manager's position at Everton in January 1994. John Deehan was appointed as manager of the Canaries. The remainder of that season saw Norwich win only twice and slip to 12th place.
The summer sales of Chris Sutton, Colin Woodthorpe and David Smith, following that of Ruel Fox the previous February, saw the money invested in a solid defence with Carl Bradshaw, Jon Newsome and defensive midfielder Mike Milligan all arriving at Carrow Road. However Sutton was not replaced until August 26th when Mike Sheron signed for £800,000 less than 20% of what Sutton's move had generated. Despite the further sales of striker Efan Ekoku and goalkeeper Scott Howie, Norwich were in a strong position come Christmas and were in seventh place taking 30 points from their first 19 matches. This was primarily due to their strong defence but this was overturned with an injury to goalkeeper Bryan Gunn on 27th December 1994 at Nottingham Forest.
Deehan described his last days at Carrow Road as "like I'd been in a car crash and I could either sit there and look at the wreckage of what had happened and dither around or get up and start walking. I got up and started walking" Deehan blamed chairman Robert Chase's insistence on selling Norwich's stars without investing the transfer fees received into the playing side. In the aforementioned interview, Deehan wrote "What I can't forgive Robert Chase is that he made life difficult for my family and I think I was probably a bit ill myself in the end. I was going home and not sleeping because I was trying to come up with the answer to an equation that was unanswerable - how to help a young side stay in the Premiership with no money".
After a brief spell with non-leaguers Wrexham, Deehan was appointed manager of Wigan Athletic in November 1995 with former Canary number two John Benson by his side. In season 1996/97, he led Wigan to the Division Three championship but his position but went as Wigan struggled in Division Two. Although Wigan recovered to gain midtable security, John quit his position in July 1998 to join Steve Bruce at Sheffield United as first team Coach. Deehan hit the headlines on 21st November 1998 when he was arrested for "threatening behaviour" (swearing) at Sheffield United's away game with Queen's Park Rangers. Deehan followed Steve Bruce to Huddersfield in June 1999 with Deehan acting again as Bruce's Assistant Manager. Following Bruce's sacking on 16th October 2000, Deehan and Lou Macari were placed in charge of the United first team for the 3-0 defeat at Sheffield United. Macari was appointed manager with Joe Jordan as his assistant. Deehan would stay at Huddersfield as first team coach.Deehan completed a dream move when John Gregory appointed him as Aston Villa's first team coach on July 20th 2001. He was promoted to Assistant Manager in November 2001 with Stuart Gray acting as first team coach. Following Gregory's resignation on 24 January 2002, Deehan and Gray took over the management responsibilities until someone else could be appointed. That person was Graham Taylor.
Deehan and Gray remained with Villa until early June 2003. Following a poor season where Villa narrowly avoided relegation, Graham Taylor parted company with the club. David O'Leary was appointed as the new manager, and as such wanted to bring in his own management team. Thus Deehan and Gray left Villa Park on June 11th 2003. The following month saw Deehan return to Portman Road, appointed as a part-time scout within Joe Royle's management team.
Interesting to note that many of the managers he has worked under or been replaced by are now out of work and available?
Management career: 231 games, 86 wins, 84 lost,61 drawn.
The Drilling Cobbler at 12:18:01 Thursday October 9 2003
Vince - If its John Deehan I doubt that he would have been anybodies 50th choice let alone 1st choice. I find it very strange after investing so much money into the club and looking to invest considerably more that they choose to employ YET ANOTHER (assuming of couse it is Deehan) manager whos record is, to say the least, not very impressive. Yet another manager who has earnt fewer wins than defeats throughout their managerial career. Yet Stockport and Tranmere are, if reports are to be believed, on the verge of capturing Ward and Cotteril respectively. I understand your position Vince - but I doubt that you are doing cartwheels at the thought of John Deehan being our new boss? Likewise Tony Clarke. I just feel (again, assuming that JD is installed as new manager) we have moved back 6 months when everybody was saying 'give him a chance' about Wilko. I will not get on his back but I can assure you that sixfields will not be filled with optimism if the rumours become reality. It will be yet another step in the wrong direction and will almost certainly end in tears some 12/18months down the line. I have put my head on the block by saying this - and I hope than I am proved wrong - but really we have very little choice but to once again give someone the benefit of the doubt. I would attend tonights meeting but unfortunately I am helping to defend the Kingfishers unbeaten run in the Wellingborough/village idiots pool league division 2! Played 2 Won 2! If only I could compare my pool teams record to that of the Cobblers!
Ummmmm at 12:09:25 Thursday October 9 2003
Announcement later this after or early evening according to Big Dave
Vince at 12:04:24 Thursday October 9 2003
Drlling, I know what you mean but to start with the Cardoza's did not really get directly involved with the running of the club and left most things to Ellis and Good. No doubt they are as upset as anyone that the managerial appointments have not worked out (and they have also met the cost of those failures) but I do know that they are making every effort to get it right this time and realistically thats as much as anyone can expect. We all have managers that we would like to see appointed (Dowie, Cotterill etc)but what we don't know is what they wanted to join NTFC or even if they really wanted the job or if they applied for any managers job just to find out more. Whoever is appointed will never be everyones first choice and only time will tell if it is the right choice. In the meantime I don't think its totally to pre judge any appointment on what has happened in the past bearing in mind the effort that is being put in to get it right. Why not come to tonights Open Forum and raise some of your points?
Censorship? at 11:52:45 Thursday October 9 2003
Ray, why did you take my posting off about Kermit and yet you've left on a posting which is clearly bogus (Bexxy's Mum @ 07:46:23) and which some poor sods mobile number is left on here?
Anon at 11:48:27 Thursday October 9 2003
http://www.northamptontoday.co.uk/SectionSummary.aspx?SectionID=283
Simon at 11:46:35 Thursday October 9 2003
For a couple of days I was thinking maybe thinks will be ok after all but now I've got a real bad feeling about this. Please not John Deehan!
Simon at 11:43:45 Thursday October 9 2003
If Deehan does get the job I can see the natives getting very restless.
United Front at 11:42:32 Thursday October 9 2003
I hope I'm not the only one to feel slightly less than elated at the imminent announcement of Deehan as Manager. Again, why are we appointing a coach who hasn't worked as manager for 4 years? Surely that tells us something?
Simon at 11:39:50 Thursday October 9 2003
Can someone please tell me why Deehans name's now in the frame? Have I missed something? I thought we were all just sitting patiently waiting for the i's to be dotted and the t's to be crossed before Ward took control. What's been said to make people think Deehan's in line for the hotseat?
A Childs View at 11:35:39 Thursday October 9 2003
Clearly that should say his and not he's - what's happening to my grasp of English? Too much bloody politics on here, it's all dull, football is my escape and should be creative, passionate, enjoyable and exciting - not incessantly critical, negative and depressing. When's the last time we talked about the team and great away days? I long for my footy to become simple and fun once again - lets hope it happens and soon.
Anon at 11:29:36 Thursday October 9 2003
Chron says Deehan is the man!!
A Childs View at 11:28:22 Thursday October 9 2003
I'm off to the Lake District now for 4 days so will, basically, be amidst a media black out - same as the clubs communication policy really! I don't mind waiting 3 months to get the right man but why schedule a press conference when the deal isn't yet done, more than a touch presumptuous I think! I hope everything calms down and we actually get Mr Ward, he IS quality and will do a good job for us. Mr Ward, if you read this, don't worry about the fans demanding instant success, we can be patient, it's just that all of our other managers have been muppets of which you are not one. Believe in the Cardoza's, believe in the potential of the club and come aboard for a rise up the divisions! It's niaive of us to think Mr Ward doesn't have the right to assess he's options, we love our club - to him it's just a job amongst many at the moment but, once the good times roll, that'll change. I'm really hoping to come back on Sunday and find Mr Ward has presided over a succesful performance at Rochdale and is installed for the next 3 years. Come on the Town and come on Mr Ward, you know you want to sign so just do it!!
Bazza at 11:20:41 Thursday October 9 2003
DRILLING, I laughed at lot at your last post! If Wilko and Hill were say, Waldorf & Stadler then is John Deehan Fozzy Bear or Kermit the Frog or even Miss Piggy?
LDB at 11:19:15 Thursday October 9 2003
tom at 23:22:39 .....Cheers
therealslimmartinw at 11:11:50 Thursday October 9 2003
Bazza, yeah probably. Except I don't think he was removed of duties because of his association with Wilko, otherwise he would have been put on gardening leave at the same time as we parted company with him. YOu make a good point about who is making the decisions this time over the management post, I asked TCMP this question in a round about way and am still waiting for an answer. I thought that Good was still the main man when Wilko was appointed and that any decisions made would have been with advice from him but he has gone. Nevertheless, there are still members of the board who would have had an influence on the decision on the board... including, dare I say it, TCMP.
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:06:55 Thursday October 9 2003
But Vince - Ellis is Cordoza's brother-in-law and it was him that the Cordoza's installed as chairman in the first place! Hence that it all stems back to them. We now have money yet we are in a far worse situation (on the field) than we were when we were potless. Why? Because we keep employing muppets. Its as if there is a manufacturing plant somewhere near TGI's making them, they then go along a conveyer belt into the stadium, work for a few days,weeks or if production has stopped temporarily, months, until the next one turns up! If rumours are to be believed, then quality control obviously stopped Ward, Cotteril, Kinnear etc from entering Sixfields but after much deliberation allowed Deehan in! I would say that John Deehan is a delux muppet. The GTi version with all of the trimmings. Far better than the others but still not the kind of manager I expect/expected to be installed.
Vince at 11:04:51 Thursday October 9 2003
Bazza, don't know but you could ask David Cardoza at tonights Open Forum. I suspect however that it's case of once (or more!) bitten twice shy and a lot more thought would have been put into this appointment and more advice taken from outside of the club.
Anon at 11:00:43 Thursday October 9 2003
I'm gutted John Deehan. He's not exactly a proven manager is he.
Bazza at 10:59:48 Thursday October 9 2003
RSMW, umm..isn't that the gist of my last sentance @10.47?
Bazza at 10:57:29 Thursday October 9 2003
VINCE, so have they taken advice in appointing the new man or have the same people who employed the previous team been solely involved in the new appointment?
therealrealslimmartinw at 10:55:57 Thursday October 9 2003
Bazza, Richard Hill publicly slated the players saying that if he was manager following a performance like the one against Hull he would get rid of the lot of them. Not sure that that goes down well in a dressing room that is in turmoil anyway with management changes. It says a lot that the players didnt respond to the new face like happens so many times at clubs.
Vince at 10:53:22 Thursday October 9 2003
In fairness to the Cardoza's they really been fully in control when Fenwick, Wilkinson and Hill (assuming he does not return) have been dismissed. Fenwick was not their appointment and very few fans, if any, wanted him to stay anyway. The new appointments will be the first time that they have looked outside of the clubs existing staff and they appear to be doing everything possible to get it right. Even if the previous board (Stonhill et al) had wanted to make the number of changes that have taken place in the last 10 months they wouldn't have done for cost reasons. Appointing a new manager is always a risk with no guarantees at all and if whoever is appointed turns out to be a "muppet" then I don't think anyone will be able to say that the present board did all they could to avoid that happening. As for their money taking us down the divisions that has nothing to do with it, the relegation rot set in when Ellis appointed his old mate Fenwick, and I don't think anyone expected such a bad start to this season. Mistakes have been made and you are right that their cash input does make them immune to criticism but at least they have demonstrated that they are prepared to do their utmost to correct those mistakes.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:52:32 Thursday October 9 2003
Aston Villa 24-01-2002 05-02-2002 2 0 0 2
Wigan 02-08-1995 01-06-1998 157 69 54 34
Norwich 12-01-1994 31-07-1995 72 17 30 25
1st column is total games, followed by wins, defeats and draws. Total stats - P 231, W 86, L 84, D 61. Av points per game 1.38, which would equate over a 46 match season to 63/64 points. Stats are always misleading and often their are mitigating circumstances. At norwich I understand that he was forced to sell many top players culminating in their relegation to division1. At Wigan he obviously had plenty of money, and got them promoted from division3 (as champions I think). So, reasonably experienced with a mixed record. If he is our new manager I will not be jumping up and down with joy, neither will I be tearing my hair out. I must say though that on the face of it it would overall be a very dissapointing appointment after all of the hype and expectations of getting in someone 'proven'. Kinnear, Cotterill, Moore, Ward etc. We end up with John Deehan!!
Bazza at 10:47:05 Thursday October 9 2003
I hope that some outside help was used to make the latest appointment, as Drilling says, the Cardoza's record on employing managers is poor to say the least! I have some sympathy for Richard Hill. He was given the job as assistant to learn the ropes under the experienced hand of Wilko. Is it his fault that Wilko was not up to the job and he got tarred with the same loser brush? I hear that Hill still wants to be involved and although my instinct is to give him another go under a new boss I think his association with the old regime may be to strong for the players to accept him.
therealrealslimmartinw at 10:46:01 Thursday October 9 2003
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:33:25 Thursday October 9 2003 ....ABSOLUTELY, very very wise words. Prepare for the LHs and anonymous Middlebills of this CC world to go on the attack!!
therealslimmartinw at 10:43:14 Thursday October 9 2003
Drilling, absolutely with you on Deehan but i would be very surprised if he was the face introduced today, if indeed we get a press conference today. As Ray Graydon has shown, a manager cannot work miracles. You have to have the raw material to work with. I was disagree that Broadhurst had any hand in our current state. The players that were hired and fired is the domain of the manager. Hilly clearly never contributed to dressing room harmony. But if you spend £300k+ in the Third Divison and then say oops we dont have a goalscorer you are not going to get much sympathy, especially when one you let go (Gabby) is knocking them in in a higher division. Although that seems to be the rule for almost every striker that leaves the club, for some unfathomable reason. We are going through a difficult period now, but one thing is crucial. We need a striker, a difficult task now, thought. That's why it was crucial to have the right man as i said before, before all the contracts were being decision during the summer. Most players are committed to their clubs once the season starts and it is difficult to prise any away without going over the top with an offer. As i said there is Stan Collymore who in the short term, perhaps, could do a real job for us and help the less experienced players were have in our side. We lack experience and leadership and steel, as others have said and adding those qualities to the side is as important as getting a new manager, I would say. Old war horses are a tried and tested formula, we cant really argue with Atko on that one when you look where Oxford are. But you do have to have a balance to go forward. After all, we are not going to get superstars coming to the Third. If the best players are older, you get them. When you move up divisions you change your squad to fit the environment you are in. Idon't think Wilko was bright enough to think whether he was going long term or short term. He thought he had players that would get us promotion this season, he said as much. Don't forget great young players wont hang around the Third, so it aint necessarily a long term strategy. But totally agree that you need your seasoned pros not just to help out but provide leadership.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:33:25 Thursday October 9 2003
I would of thought Richard Hills time is effectively up - particularly when it is now evident that the Cordoza's have more confidence in Kearney and Blythe taking charge of the team in training than they do of Hill. Why their oppinion has changed after 1 defeat, despite the mannor of it is anybodies guess. Most people on here seemed to think that when Wilko was sacked the others should have followed him, I too was in that camp. Yet Hill gets the shortterm nod and a week later is told 'enough is enough'. You have to question the management style of the current board - give the job to a muppet and sack him after a short time only to replace him with another muppet! And so on and so on. Under the Cordoza's stewardship, we have now had effectively 5 different managers (Broads, Fenwick, Wilko, Hill, Kearney (if you count Bythe then 6!) - and we are about to appoint another one!! In less than 10months. As things currently stand, it is very hard to be supportive. If Stonhill had done that, he would have been shot by now. Their money and plans for the stadium has made them almost immune to critisism - yet so far their 'money' has taken the club from 14th in div2 to 17th in div3. I am not being unappreciative - just stating the bleeding obvious. Todays/tomorrows appointment must be one that restores optimism and belief that we might actually fulfill the level of success promised to us. Another muppet will be one muppet too many....
Bazza at 10:30:44 Thursday October 9 2003
Why should any prospective manager show NTFC any loyalty? What sort of loyalty have we shown to recent managers?
Phil at 10:30:21 Thursday October 9 2003
New boss is John Deehan and Coin Calderwood from Spurs is his assistant - in the chron
Anon at 10:26:50 Thursday October 9 2003
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Cordwainer at 10:25:06 Thursday October 9 2003
Why this criticism of Ward if he is trying to maximise his benefits by playing us off against Stockport? Isn't that what anyone would do if they were in demand? Why should he be devoted to NTFC, he has no connections, its just a job. He knows that he will be booted out if he is not an instant success so I don't blame him for making what he can out of it.
Bazza at 10:16:36 Thursday October 9 2003
DRILLING, has Hill been sacked then?
steve2 at 10:12:08 Thursday October 9 2003
deehan has managed at all levels and coached for england. assistant manager at villa until the summer - looks fine to me. Or should we bring in someone with more experience like broadhurst?
john ward would be equally good. fingers crossed we hear something today.
jamie at 10:07:01 Thursday October 9 2003
has it crossed anyones mind that we may be trying to secure the services of both deehan and ward? now that could be a great partnership.lets face it, we all wanted a cleen sweep of coaching staff and the cordoza's may well agree.
Nick at 10:01:38 Thursday October 9 2003
What a great incisive and intelligent posting Drilling Cobbler, I agree with all that you wrote, for a change.
Richard at 09:59:54 Thursday October 9 2003
Richard, I am not sure I would want John Ward now, he doesn't seem to commited, more like he is out for himself, what if he does well and a bigger club comes sniffing round, he will be off like a shot. Get someone with some loyalty, someone who is here for the long term. Someone like Mark Wright or Nigel Clough. It all started going wrong when Broadhurst was released first time, and got worse after he was released 2nd time.
Also if we have a 'big lad' up front can we not give them greif if they have a bad half or miss a couple of flickons/chances. Look at Parkin, Howard, Stamp all player the south end of the west stand have booed. Just goes to show what they know, lets be more positive.
Deehan V Ward at 09:57:09 Thursday October 9 2003
I disagree Deehan is a giant at Villa and coached for England and there cannot be more people with more contacts in the game he is a good coach and has had more big club expieriance than Ward, both are good options but Deehan comes ahead of Ward in my book.
United Front at 09:42:17 Thursday October 9 2003
I agree entireley Drilling. I think that John Ward would be the best appointment based on the criteria that the board seem to be working from, ie: respected coach, experienced in all divisions, cheap, etc. I agree with your worries regarding Deehan. Why exactly are we interested in candidates who are primarily coaches who haven't had recent experience of being managers. We need a strong character to come in and turn the club upside down, instill discipline and knock the players back into shape. After the initial "fantasy managers" being linked with us died down I was quite happy with the prospect of Ward, but Deehan doesn't get the pulse racing.
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:32:36 Thursday October 9 2003
Fingers crossed it is John Ward then. After all of the hype, John Deehan would hardly be inspiring would it? Failed big time at Norwich, short term success at money bags Wigan before getting fired. I can only think that if 40 applications were considered seriously and John Deehan made it to the final 2, how many times did Richard Hill submit his cv! Even Steve Parkin wouldnt be too bad, very good at Rochdale but struggled somewhat at Barnsley, a club that has been in decline since gaining promotion to the premiership. Lets face it, Iain Dowie is the 'new' Steve Parkin. The manager who hasnt failed yet. Ray Graydon is struggling to turn around Bris R despite his success at Walsall, and despite the fact he supports them. Anything we achieve this season will be a bonus now, after the mess Wilko/Hill/Fenwick/Broadhurst/Kearney/Bythe etc have left us in. It all stems back to Atkins and his refusal to invest in youth. Look at the Oxford team - doing ok but full of old war horses. Short term thinking. Wilko didnt think shortterm, the problem was he thought too longterm! A team full of young up and coming stars is fine providing it has a couple of pedigree seasoned pro's to help out when the going gets tough. Unfortunately Trolls and Hargrieves seem to have little influence on those around them. A question I have for Tony - why did the club sack Richard Hill after 1 disasterous performance when at that point a replacement had not been properly lined up? Another PR disaster, perhaps our new manager should be Max Clifford!
Whose Fault? at 09:10:14 Thursday October 9 2003
Come on give em a chance if the club thinks its in a position to make an announcement but then runs into difficulties over stuff like personal terms then who is to blame? Surely we are not saying to them keep silent until it is 100% in the bag cuz if we do then people will say why are we kept in the dark?
Macc Cobblers at 09:05:27 Thursday October 9 2003
TCMP, I think that you will find that all fans are prepared to wait for the right man to be appointed but it was the club who made public on Tuesday that the appointment would be made yesterday - and so expectations were raised. Also I feel that the curt message put on the "Breaking News" did not and still does not help matters.
Anon at 08:24:37 Thursday October 9 2003
Could it still be Ian Dowie ?
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therealslimmartinw at 00:57:03 Thursday October 9 2003
TCMP, I would love to be at the Trust meeting, I really would, to put the questions, because I think they are important and I am sure that there will be a clear view. Is there a way of sending the questions by email? My geographical location and work commitments make it impossible to attend. The issue I think some had over the announcement, was not that there should be a quick decision, but just that everyone was given to understand there was a press conference today and there wasn't. The official site confirms there was a delay so a few of us were clamouring for info. It's just a communication thing. If it takes another two weeks and we get the right man, it should take that long. Nobody wants us to get it wrong again. If my posts are more positive now, it is because Martin Wilkinson is no longer in charge of the football club and lessons hopefully are being learnt. To me Wilko's appointment was complete folly from the start and it was too fundamental an issue to accept. It would be interesting to learn just exactly who was responsible for making that decision and why it was that applications were not sought then. I am pleased to see that you acknowledge that lessons have to be learnt about our appalling record in appointing the right man to lead our team. Can I say, John Ward seems to be a very popular choice, nudge nudge.
therealslimmartinw at 00:28:27 Thursday October 9 2003
Okay Carlisle United have confirmed that John Ward has left the club as he has now had offers from several clubs to be their number one. The Cobblers and Stockport have had talks. According to a former colleague of mine working for a newspaper in Carlisle, sources say Ward is believed to be our number one choice. He has told club execs about the Northampton job and talked of the money behind the club. But he is also known to be anxious about our track history of hiring and firing managers. The speculation is that any hold up may be due to personal terms being completely sorted and that Ward's head may be turned by the chance of managing a bigger club. t. But I cannot believe the club would say there is a press conference for today without all those things in place. So make of that what you will.
TCMP at 00:02:59 Thursday October 9 2003
actually most fans are being patient and realising that what is important is not just when we make the appointment but also what appointment we make. We have been interviewing and wieghing up the options now since the weekend and we are getting closer to a decision, in addition we have made moves to ensure that we are covered every which way in respect of Saturdays trip to Rochdale. I understand that everyone is clamouring for info and that the rumour tree is bearing masses of fruit but appointing a new manager is a lot harder than simply looking at who is available and deciding to pay the highest or lowest bidder. There are a lot of names out there and there a few other clubs chasing and others who would love to hang onto thier staff irrespective of the fact that we also may have a place for them. We are now in a position whereby we know what we want and we are finalising details but we will not be drawn into the wrong appointment for the quick headline. David has gone more than the extra mile in the last few days to make sure we bring the right person/s to the club and we are nearly there. We won't be held to ransom nor will we appoint on the basis of simply appointing a known name without thought to whether or not they can deliver the goods. Realslimartin it was good to hear you saying something positive in your posts and as far as the Peter Millar questions he will answer you and others himself at tommorrows open forum. I did answer your question some time a go as to his links outside of NTFC but better he answers direct to the fans tommorrow, all I can say is that I am glad he has been around over the past few weeks as his support has been invaluable to the club. John Ward and John Deehan and or others who have not been mentioned are all good captures but we are also looking at the wider picture as to ensuring we have the best team at Sixfields for the long term and for that reason we are trying to appoint on the basis of getting it right rather than simply making deadlines. If all goes to plan then we will make an announcement tommorrow but if not then I simply ask fans to understand we are working as hard as we can on this and will make an announcement as soon as we have matters tied down. Hope that many of you can make the trust open forum tommorrow when we can answer any other questions.
tom at 23:22:39 Wednesday October 8 2003
ldb yes, Rio's name was leaked out by the FA..... then they stopped him from playing against Turkey.
When Palios gets the boot for being a pompous incompetent twat, I'll be more than happy to put your name forward for the job - I can tell you've got what it takes!
Rodney Marshall at 23:13:34 Wednesday October 8 2003
Who cares who the new manager is? We are not going up this season which probably means the bloke will get the sack anyway. We now officially have the worst post-war managerial record of the 92 clubs.
Old News at 23:10:27 Wednesday October 8 2003
Monday 2 June 2003 - Roger Terrell and Lee Power have walked away from the job of chairman and vice chairman of Luton Town football club. The pair have issued a statement saying that they do not want to be involved in the club.
"We refer to the press conference last Tuesday at Kenilworth Road in which we envisaged we would have been appointed Chairman and Vice-Chairman of Luton Town Football Club.
"As a result of the reaction of the supporters, we decided to reconsider out position and we have had further discussions with the investors in the club and we have decided to decline their offer to be involved.
"We wish Luton all the best for the future."
Peter Miller, the Commercial Director at Northampton Town, has also issued a statement.
He says he has never been involved in the buying of the club or it's redevelopment but that he did have a consultative role after contact from John Gurney.
Mr Miller says he signed the two letters that led to the departure of Joe Kinnear and Mick Harford.
However there is further confusion because Peter Miller says Harford then received a letter from former director Eric Hood offering him a years extension to his contract.
Mr Miller says he wasn't paid and that it was under his advice that the Scotland tour was cancelled and that he recommended Roger Terrell and Lee Power to Mr Gurney.
Finally, he says he has resigned from his role because of the lack of infornmation on the new owners as well as their financial status. He said since that time he has had any contact from Mr Gurney.
Gomez at 23:04:49 Wednesday October 8 2003
Chill out people. It is John Ward. And a fine choice it is too.
Parsnip at 23:04:42 Wednesday October 8 2003
Those who suggests that Rio 'forgot' to take the test because he has a sexually transmitted disease and was afraid it would be shown up are in danger of committing slander.
Tag at 22:34:59 Wednesday October 8 2003
Would be a shock if it was somone like Deehan when there are other more credible candidates. 40+ we are told were genuine contenders. Deehan doesnt command the same respect. sanchez and Cotteril would be step back to dour football. I like the sound of Brian Little or John Gregory with a little bit of John Aldridge for good measure. It's a shame Kinnear is out of the picture because he would get a lot of respect.
Newshound at 22:29:12 Wednesday October 8 2003
Stampy scores for Chester again tonight
Derek at 22:26:42 Wednesday October 8 2003
I hear that Lee Power is now a director at Sixfields. That's you lot fucked then.
therealslimmartinw at 22:17:30 Wednesday October 8 2003
Chris have to agree with you about the failure in communication from the club when they must know every fan with a passion for the club is clamouring for information about what is happening and when. I am surprised the Cobblers Comments boo boys, stand up LH and Middlebill havent had a go at you about it, daring to criticise the club administration. How dare you. But its not the first time this has happened in the jolly old recent history of our beloved club. All it would take is to give us some idea when an announcement is now likely to be made and we wouldnt keep scanning everywhere for news. If TCMP does come on to explain, he could also address my questions about Peter Miller's position. Which brings me neatly to Irthlingborough Cobb's plea for Kinnear among others. Joe Kinnear won't be seen dead at Sixfields after the treatment Mr Miller meted out to him in getting him to resign while consultant for a consortium taking over Luton.
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Anon at 21:54:47 Wednesday October 8 2003
Been nothing on the website since the "Head" of IT left over a dispute with the "Head" of Media. Must have lost the toss over who had to make the teas for the commercial dept. Big job! Either that or the appointment of the "Head" of photocopying meant they'd both been overlooked!
pieces of the jigsaw at 21:48:26 Wednesday October 8 2003
so what's happening? the offal site tells us nothing. no change there then. look at the facts. deeham seen in tgi's after youth game, ward not - maybe set for stockport? miller now cheif exec so never gonna be kinnear. cotterill applying for other jobs, dowie will do better than ntfc, palmer a ********* etc so deehan it is then. speaking to mate from norwich, he laughed althou not as much as my mate from portsmouth did in january so maybe he'll last about 10 games!
Anon at 21:38:52 Wednesday October 8 2003
Sanchez takes over tmrw. I know
Anon at 21:29:38 Wednesday October 8 2003
i wouldent go with any of them i would go for Bob the builder because if anyone can fix it he can ! ; )
Chris at 21:26:50 Wednesday October 8 2003
Sod Rio.....what about the managerial announcement.....definately shades of Hodder and his rubber stamp as someone posted earlier. The club should keep quiet until the ink has dried on the contract....again our expectations are raised, only to be dashed by what can only be described as a pathetic, non-informative posting on the official site. Time for TCMP to give us some more reassuring words direct from the boardroom. Perhaps he can explain why our PR is such a disaster?
IrthlingboroughCobb at 21:18:48 Wednesday October 8 2003
Forget Ward or Deehan and the other nomarks, why don't we just go out and get someone who can get us out of this division THIS YEAR!!!!
It would be expensive but it's got to be worth it in the long run !
The only worthy candidates in my opinion are KINNEAR, DOWIE OR MOORE!
LDB at 21:10:01 Wednesday October 8 2003
Understand: Rio's name was leaked out ! and do you know the full story with regard to both of these incidents - I don't - I guess you don't - they just might not be exactly the same, I doubt the FA would do this to themselves if they really didn't have to, I'm sure that if the punishment rules state that FA could have just fined Rio they would have
Lost the faith at 20:58:10 Wednesday October 8 2003
Goodbye........
Anon at 20:52:10 Wednesday October 8 2003
repeat: the manchester city player it happened to earlier this year was not named and got fine 2g
LDB at 20:45:53 Wednesday October 8 2003
I aggree you should stand by your friends + also I think the media don't help things by digging up things - and like I said the punishment is harsh. Merson did not miss a drugs check or fail one.Last year an international egg catcher at the saints got dropped for a match for just missing a normal meeting - he did not forget about it either! he didn't know about it !!!! but Wayne Smiths line was "It's unfortunate but he's a professional and he should have known about it, he has let his team down - I bet you he won't do it again"
LDB, LOYAL FRIEND? at 19:58:58 Wednesday October 8 2003
tho i prefer John Terry and Sol Campbell anyway
LDB, LOYAL FRIEND? at 19:50:56 Wednesday October 8 2003
earlier this year a manchester city player, like rio, forgot to take a drugs test after training. Like Rio he passed the test when he took it 2 days later. The FA did not reveal this guys identity and later fined him 2g!....Few years earlier Paul Merson only admitted to being a coke addict cos the Screws of the World had him by the nuts. FA action - none!
Rios been shat on for being a thick bastard who couldn't remember to have a piss. Palios has tried to throw his weight around and fucked up big time. In times like this LDB, if you're any sort of a man, you stand by your friends!
Thanks at 19:20:58 Wednesday October 8 2003
everybody from all at the hotelender. Both bingleycobbler and Heggsy are now onboard. We are now on the look out for McHammer. Anybody know his whereabouts?
Anon at 19:03:24 Wednesday October 8 2003
i have heard that ward will join stockport county !!!!!!!!
And has rejected Northampton
therealslimmartinw at 18:49:53 Wednesday October 8 2003
SOME NEWS: John Ward has left Carlisle and applied for the jobs at Northampton AND Stockport according to those up north.
And Middlebill, sorry, Just a Few Points two words, grow and up.
LDB at 18:31:13 Wednesday October 8 2003
Rio knew the rules - he should except the ban like a man, he made a mistake and the rest of them should get on and think about doing well on saturday.It's alittle harsh to not let Rio play but rules are there for a reason
Puzzled Dan at 18:29:57 Wednesday October 8 2003
Yes I am me and I am him
Fact 2 at 18:29:19 Wednesday October 8 2003
If England dont turn up on Saturday the whole world would notice, would anyone notice if the Cobblers didnt turn up???
Fact at 18:22:44 Wednesday October 8 2003
It was Middlebill god bless him, who showed some of us how to post pics on here!!
Just a few of points at 17:35:11 Wednesday October 8 2003
therealslimmartinwilkinson posts one of his usual conspiracy theories. A few anons basically tell hime some home truths. Up pops Puzzled Dan to defend his loyal master. And of course Puzzled Dan couldn't be one of TRSMW other personalities could he? I mean, he writes nothing like him, in fact almost the exact opposite(!) Anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? DavCobb: That bloke who drank his mates blood to attain immortality. If he gets a life sentence, its going to be a bloody long time. (lol) Why is middlebill to blame for these pictures? Is it him posting them? If so, which one is him, or is it a double bluff and HE is the girl on the blokes lap! We need to know.
Anon at 17:31:27 Wednesday October 8 2003
Oh f... there have been talks with Lawrie Sanchez. That would be the final nail in the coffin!!!
Anon at 17:18:11 Wednesday October 8 2003
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Anon at 17:03:24 Wednesday October 8 2003
Could it be John Deehan!!!
Fred at 16:47:24 Wednesday October 8 2003
What's with all the pictures
Cordwainer at 16:27:21 Wednesday October 8 2003
Will all those championing the cause of Gabbiadini come back in January and if he still doing it I will eat my boot. Gabbas always started each season like a world beater and then fizzled out in about November as his fitness went. He was also on far more money than anyone currently at the club.
therealslimmartinw at 16:22:33 Wednesday October 8 2003
ha ha I know it was yesterdays news, the breaking news is that FIFA have stated, no turn up and Turkey win 3-o, lets get our boots on and then we can rape each other in the showers!!!
therealslimmartinw at 16:17:28 Wednesday October 8 2003
Bloody hell, the England players are talking about boycotting the crucial Turkey match over the treatment of Rio Ferdinand. FA saythey wont let Rio back into the squad over his failure to take a drug test. What is going on. Sorry breaking news from a press conference
CARLTON PALMER at 16:16:19 Wednesday October 8 2003
Dramatic news Carlton has joined Granada
LH at 16:10:06 Wednesday October 8 2003
Slim Martin, say hello to the pixies for me.
therealslimmartinw at 15:29:55 Wednesday October 8 2003
LH, yeah totally agree Gabby's legs have gone and cant do a job for us the rave reviews he is getting at Hartlepool and the goals scored for them are just figments of the imagination. I concur too that Martin Wilkinson, with the benefit of hindsight was a great man manager, superb tactician, has a record that is second to none and should never have been dismissed from his job. Indeed he should have been given a new five year contract. Carlton Palmer for the Cobblers job with Barnwell as assistant. Scotland to win Euro 2004 and why are there little pixies running around my office.
Anon at 15:22:52 Wednesday October 8 2003
Oooooh dear they are ugly aren't they, poor people!!!! What is that picture from some sick website!!
DavCobb at 15:11:56 Wednesday October 8 2003
Wednesday October 8, 03:04 PM
'Vampire' Guilty Of Eating Pal's Head
A man who claimed to be a vampire after drinking his best friend's blood and eating part of his head has been convicted of murder.Allan Menzies, from Fauldhouse, West Lothian, bludgeoned to death 21-year-old Thomas McKendrick, also from Fauldhouse, in a frenzied attack after a bust-up over a vampire film.Menzies, 22, claimed he was ordered by a vampire from horror film Queen Of The Damned to kill his friend.
In return the character would make him a vampire and he would be guaranteed immortality, he told the court.
Menzies is being sentenced this afternoon.
LH at 15:04:23 Wednesday October 8 2003
Slim Martin , your correct. Gabbi has no playing future . This his last year I would guess .Give me Martin Smith on a 3yr contract any day.
New Manager at 15:02:16 Wednesday October 8 2003
Alan Mingis
Anon at 14:48:59 Wednesday October 8 2003
Something tells me that no matter who the new manager is, once a few results don't go our way the pikees in the west stand will start their booing and groaning and dent the confidence of the players again, we will be back to square one before we know it blaming it on this newly appointed manager, bet he'll be gone before the end of the season. Start singing at the home games you miserable wankers.
fao of webmaster at 14:48:35 Wednesday October 8 2003
and the pictures should be banned, irrelevant and causes loading problems for us with 56k modems. I blame it on Middlebill now anon.
Macc Cobblers at 14:28:01 Wednesday October 8 2003
I hope that is not the scenario - as I would have expected there to have been a binding agreement on both sides before the announcement yesterday that there was going to be a press conference this morning to announce the new manager.
mjharrison56 at 14:27:07 Wednesday October 8 2003
Ceefax confirms press conference cancelled
Anon at 14:15:19 Wednesday October 8 2003
John Ward is probably looking for a bit more money - understandable how this situation might have arisen - we look at him and see an 'older' manager out of work; and think we can get him for a modest wage - but all of sudden there are a couple of jobs going
and Mr Ward ups the anti a bit - I still think we'll get him either today or tomorrow...
who? at 14:07:28 Wednesday October 8 2003
manager: Who? When?
me: annoyed! looking forward!
therealslimmartinw at 13:40:00 Wednesday October 8 2003
LH, just a casual view. You will find that a few people have had a moan about the lack of info on the management situation. Have a go at them instead of targetting me all the time and make friends with Marco Gabbiadini who according to you had not future. It is Cobblers Comments.
LH at 13:32:56 Wednesday October 8 2003
Slim Martin , the Club cant win really can they. I'm sure you were one of the people moaning how the Commercial dept need to get their act together & increase turnover . Looks to me as though thats exactly
what they are doing.
therealslimmartinw at 13:23:33 Wednesday October 8 2003
Official site has responded with just a headline saying "there has been a delay regarding the managerial announcement". That's it. But they take the opportunity to say that when an appointment is made we the fans can get the news before any press conference by signing up to the Sixfields Message Service at 25p a text. Signing up to Cobblers World for a fee will allow us to hear the whole press conference in a delayed broadcast. That's a bit blantant, isn't it And you wonder why Cobblers fans moan?
RICHARD at 13:18:29 Wednesday October 8 2003
re: Missing in Action. Thanks for the wake up call! Trouble at thehotelend?
Sid at 13:10:09 Wednesday October 8 2003
Nothing on the lunchtime news on BBCRN.
BirminghamCobbler at 12:56:19 Wednesday October 8 2003
Yeah me too.
BlackpoolCobbler at 12:55:11 Wednesday October 8 2003
Quite right. It's not so easy for me to get hold of the Chron up here! I rely on the official site but often find that this gives more up to date information.
UKOnline at 12:48:44 Wednesday October 8 2003
Anon at 12:47:04 Wednesday October 8 2003
What is the point of the official site if often we get more insight into what is happening here???
BlackpoolCobbler at 12:45:10 Wednesday October 8 2003
Typical this! Being left in the dark with no announcement to what is actually happening. Would have been nice for fans who can't get the Chron to be updated via a message on the official site!
therealslimmartinw at 12:43:37 Wednesday October 8 2003
Well, Mr Childs's view, it seems they have some marketing to do first, remember, get the news about the management position before the press conference if you register for text message news. It doesn't sound good about Wardy. If it is money and Ward (if indeed it is him) has been using others clubs as a sounding board, the powers that be if previous statements are anything to go by, will balk at thewhole thing. They would want someone 100% committed to the club. Don't know I hate all this waiting.
Anon at 12:41:38 Wednesday October 8 2003
Phone call to Club revealed press conference postponed although no reason given or alternative date etc. Apparently this information put out on the radio but not on the official site.
Hasn't something like this happened before? at 12:41:02 Wednesday October 8 2003
Probably looking for Hodders Rubber Stamp to confirm the deal, either that or a few i's want dotting or t's crossing.
A Childs View at 12:38:18 Wednesday October 8 2003
Bugger - should've known really, it ain't 100% until the ink is dry on the contract. Official site should have a bloody announcement by now, some of us keep looking evry half hour to see what's going on! Come on, sort it out!!!
While everyone is waiting for news of the new manager why not read David Conn's article from last saturdays Independent. at 12:36:35 Wednesday October 8 2003
David Conn: Cobblers land on their feet after looking down and out
Northampton Town seemed a financial corpse for vultures to pick over but are now 'the Chelsea of the Third Division'
04 October 2003
Football club sacks manager, its third in a year, yet this is still one less than the number of chairmen, who have tumbled like rain through the boardroom. This follows years of being crippled by debt and considered for takeover by the associate of the former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic, Giovanni Di Stefano, who has now taken over at Dundee. A good snigger was had when they announced a deal to sell merchandise in North Carolina, a new "stateside" partnership for a club relegated to the Third Division last season.
Northampton Town, you would presume from all this, are a club in crisis, the latest sad case in football's frayed financial basket.
Well, actually, they are not. David Cardoza, the present chairman, variously described as a property developer, antiques dealer or, at 33, a retired stockbroker, is being hailed as a genuine benefactor, who, with his father, Tony, has wiped out the club's debts and financed the acquisition of a clutch of players highly rated at this level. The club have been dubbed the Chelsea of the Third Division and the spin from Northampton echoes that of Roman Abramovich, that Cardoza has "fallen in love with the beautiful game", and has moved his family from Lewes, Sussex, to live locally.
If Northampton have not been noted for much on the field in recent years, they are a landmark to supporters nationally for establishing the first supporters' trust, which raised money for a small shareholding and elected a director to the club's board every year. Brian Lomax was the supporter-director for seven years, then became managing director of Supporters Direct, the Government-backed initiative to encourage fans to form trusts.
Lomax retired this week, having seen his idea develop from a post-match grumble with fellow Cobblers fans in the Brewers Arms pub in 1991, to Supporters Direct's roster of trusts at 102 professional and semi-pro clubs, 45 of them with a shareholding and 30 with elected club directors.
"Nobody seriously questions the concept anymore," Lomax says. "Trusts are moving on to a new era, working with clubs for the benefit of fans, the true owners of the game."
His successor at Northampton, Tony Clarke, a local Labour MP, says Northampton have been extremely lucky, after their recent turmoil, to emerge in the hands of the Cardozas: "We've landed on our feet."
Northampton suffered the common Football League disease of spiralling wages and falling income, compounded by the collapse of ITV Digital, which saw them owe close to £2m, including the inevitable enormously overdue PAYE tax bill. The old board of local businessmen, chaired by Barry Stonhill, had lent the club around £500,000 and, nearly two years ago, offered it for sale.
They first talked seriously to John Fashanu, the former Wimbledon striker who had formed an agency, Winners World Wide, backed by the Nigerian chief and billionaire Sonny Odogwu, and was considering buying the club as a showcase for African players.
Fashanu was keen on developing property around the Sixfields Stadium, which is owned by the local council, but after several months of talks, he declined to take over. He went briefly to the Welsh club Barry Town, then left in the summer. Shortly afterwards, Barry announced long-standing debts amounting to £900,000 and are now in administration.
In May 2002, Di Stefano emerged as a bidder. A deeply controversial character who operates a legal practice in Rome, went to live in Serbia during the Balkan civil war, where he was close to Milosevic and the alleged war criminal Arkan, and who has since had an involvement with some notorious criminal cases, Di Stefano said he had gone to school near Northampton and was serious about taking over. Clarke said then he would resign and leave the club he had always supported if Di Stefano became involved.
He eventually went away, but Northampton remained slumped in crisis, just avoiding relegation in 2002. So when, last November, a deal was finally done with a consortium, called Premier Sports Developments, and Andrew Ellis, a property developer from Knightsbridge and former director of Queen's Park Rangers, was installed as the club's chairman, Cobblers fans were naturally inclined to scepticism. The manager, Kevan Broadhurst, was sacked in January, in favour of Terry Fenwick, the ex-QPR and England defender, a decision which did not provoke universal ecstasy among Cobblers fans.
They were not greatly reassured by the presence on Premier's and the club's board of Ken Good, a solicitor practising in Milton Keynes, who was formerly a director of Inter MK, the consortium led by Peter Winkelman which is responsible for steering Wimbledon into Milton Keynes.
There have been persistent rumours that Northampton were being lined up for Milton Keynes too, or for a merger with Wimbledon, and when Ellis mentioned the dreaded MK as a possible solution for the club, the uproar from Cobblers fans was fierce, and Ellis was out of the club in February.
After just seven games - two draws and five defeats - Fenwick was sacked. His 49-day managerial stint was Northampton's shortest ever. Good took over as the club's chairman and, on 11 April, confirmed the ex-Carlisle manager Martin Wilkinson as Fenwick's replacement, although Wilkinson could not prevent Northampton finishing bottom of the Second Division and being relegated.
Six days after Wilkinson's appointment, the Law Society closed down Good's firm and although they would not reveal details of the allegations against him, they said he he is facing disciplinary proceedings.
Immediately, Good left the club, and Northampton announced their new chairman, David Cardoza. He had been part of Premier Sports and is in fact Ellis' brother-in-law, and appears to have massive money behind him. Having wiped out Northampton's debts and paid for players to come in, the commitment he and his father have made to the Cobblers has grown to £1.7m.
In the summer, when most clubs were gratefully, gleefully, shedding players, Northampton were becoming the Third Division moneybags, reportedly paying wages of up to £3,000 per week, although the club insists it will meet the Football League's requirement that wages do not exceed 60 per cent of turnover.
In the summer, on the club's official website, Cardoza praised Wilkinson's "knowledge, experience, drive and ambition", and described him as "a vital part of taking the club forward". That teed Wilkinson up for a short tenure, and after Saturday's 3-0 defeat at Oxford, Cardoza decided Wilkinson was no longer so vital.
While worries persist on the field, the club is quite advanced with discussions to renegotiate the tenancy of Sixfields and be able to develop land alongside it for a hotel. This sudden expenditure and property development proposals by a businessman arriving from far away can traditionally arouse concerns for a club's future, but Clarke, who is on the board alongside Cardoza, has no worries.
"We really have been lucky," the MP says. "The Cardozas are showing a genuine, surprising commitment to the club."
Clarke points as evidence for his confidence to the reorganised club structure. Rather than put their money in as loans, which would hobble the club and provoke a crisis if the Cardozas ever left, the investment has been converted to shares. The Cardozas own 80 per cent of the club and if they leave, they lose their money. "The only way they can possibly make money," Clarke says, "is to make the club a success. As a trust, we were most reassured by that."
Eleven years old, Northampton's trust has demonstrated the limits to the idea: supporter involvement is not a solution in itself, either to financial crisis or to clubs being open to takeover by anybody, however dubious.
Clarke, however, insists the Cobblers' story showed its benefits too. "We're still here, with a director on the board," he says. "We know what is happening, can make our opinions very clear, and work positively where we can. The club has somehow come out of its SOS with a huge slice of good fortune, but I do think the trust has played a part too."
Sid at 12:36:03 Wednesday October 8 2003
BRIAN LITTLE, BRIAN LITTLE BRIAN LITTLE
therealslimmartinw at 12:33:01 Wednesday October 8 2003
....and Stockport.
for the attention of the Webmaster at 12:31:32 Wednesday October 8 2003
Is there anything that can be done about the wanton personal abuse of posters on this page usually by anonymous idiots. It has been going on for as long as i can remember. if its not one person its another and does nothing to promote proper debate about the issues surrounding the club.
therealslimmartinw at 12:23:11 Wednesday October 8 2003
Hear from Carlisle that while they have been trying to keep John Ward he is not signing a new contract as number two to Paul Simpson. John Ward seems to be doing a bit of wheeling and dealing to get the best for himself. He has not just been in discussions with us. It turns out that he has also attracted the attention of Tranmere Rovers and Wycombe Wanderers.
Anon at 12:20:59 Wednesday October 8 2003
Puzzled Dan - you are a waste of pixels - cannot you see how infantile you appear?
Anon at 12:18:17 Wednesday October 8 2003
if it is collymore then i boo him from day one. women beating scum
Anon at 12:08:39 Wednesday October 8 2003
Puzzled Dan you're a tit
Paul at 12:01:46 Wednesday October 8 2003
It said on the official site yesterday that there would be a press conference this morning to reveal who the new man was. So that makes it even worse that they havn't put anything up yet, what are they playing at!
DEK at 11:57:38 Wednesday October 8 2003
I just phoned the club and was told they have not been given any details yet. Shame they could not put this on website since it has been stated (although not by club) that the press conference was this morning. The Sun also says John Ward, just below bit about Cotterill for Tranmere.
Paul at 11:45:37 Wednesday October 8 2003
Back of Cron apparently says the announcment has been delayed... dunno how long for. A mate just phoned me and had been in town. Typical that the club feel it unnecesary to notify us via the official shite.
Puzzled Dan at 11:43:13 Wednesday October 8 2003
aha c the usual anonymus suspex r continuing to take childish popps at slimmartin and others. have u really nothing better 2 do with ur time than moan about a question. i 4 1 would like to no the answer from TC, if u faceless brainless sperm of a 1/2 dog 1/2goat hybrid dont. i mean my writing got the brunt of u poisonus nonentitys not so long ago. relly really sad bastards the lot of u. i would like to put it down to the frustation of no news but it isnt an excuse it isnt that simple.
BlackpoolCobbler at 11:23:54 Wednesday October 8 2003
Anything happening? It's gone really quiet!
Sean at 11:04:26 Wednesday October 8 2003
The play can be heard at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/afternoonplay.shtml
until next Monday
Tim Cannell at 10:55:46 Wednesday October 8 2003
Has anyone MP3'd the Walter Tull play - Id be very intersested to hear it?
BlackpoolCobbler at 10:54:08 Wednesday October 8 2003
I can't see anything on-line suggesting decision to be delayed?
Sean at 10:50:54 Wednesday October 8 2003
Walter Tull played 110 times for the Cobblers. It was Glasgow Rangers that wanted to sign him just before WW1. More information at http://www.northamptontoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=324&ArticleID=661903
The character of Walter Tull speaking in the play said, "Northampton are an excellent club. They rescued my career and I owe them a great deal" And the play ended with the word insribed on our memorial. We can be very proud of the memorial - despite pressure from their supporters there is nothing at the Spurs ground - and I know Walter's family consider it a fitting tribute to a great man.
Anon at 10:50:06 Wednesday October 8 2003
lets wait and see shall we
Anon at 10:46:12 Wednesday October 8 2003
oh dear
Anon at 10:38:58 Wednesday October 8 2003
In the chron - boss decision delayed as break down of personal terms
Anon at 10:34:46 Wednesday October 8 2003
Simple question for Slim "How can a simple question have over 400 words"?
Anon at 10:22:32 Wednesday October 8 2003
John Aldridge aint managed anyone except Tranmere - definitely not him
Anon at 09:29:17 Wednesday October 8 2003
RE therealslimmartinw 00:48:33 - WHo gives a toss you ramblin idiot!!!
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:24:59 Wednesday October 8 2003
Heres a name that hasnt been mentioned much - John Aldridge. I spoke with someone I know quite well and he 'has it on good authority' that the ex Tranmere boss is about to become our boss. When I asked wether this 'informer' was normally reliable he answered yes. The link - hes mates with someone who knows one of the players girlfriends!!! I am a bit sceptical - I reckon hes got the first name right but somewhere along the chinese whispers Ward has become Aldridge!
Anon at 09:17:09 Wednesday October 8 2003
NO THE TEXT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME SENT FROM 88442
Richard at 09:15:09 Wednesday October 8 2003
At what time is the official announcement of John Ward??
Then at 09:13:43 Wednesday October 8 2003
Then change your phone supplier as your txts are all jumbled
Anon at 08:57:39 Wednesday October 8 2003
Player Manager is Stan Collymore - got it by cobblers sms
Bexxy... at 08:18:30 Wednesday October 8 2003
Not long now folks ... Let the Cobblers revolution begin!
Walter Tull Book on Ebay at 07:15:44 Wednesday October 8 2003
1ST EDIT BOOK 1911 SPURS NORTHAMPTON TOWN FC Item number: 2758023132
Walter Tull at 07:03:41 Wednesday October 8 2003
WT 1911/12 season played centre half in his first game agianst the Gills, we won 2-1, , played at Stoke, M ILLWALL ON 5 oCTOBER, THEN HE PLAYED NEXT 10 GAMES.......28 appearances; 1912/13 34 apearances....
Pihuan at 06:41:21 Wednesday October 8 2003
Blimey! RSM is off again, I thought TCMP had already answered that one. Looks like John Ward then? Sounds a good man, if it is him let's hope the whingers give him a chance to settle in. Listened to Walter Tull play on R4 yesterday and found it both moving and informative, but it wasn't clear that he had actually played for the Cobblers in a league match as he appears to have signed up right at the start of WW1 [Aug 1914]- can anyone clarify that?
Deepcut Cobbler at 05:58:05 Wednesday October 8 2003
Who is the owner of the hotel end web site? I have registered but did not receive a Password. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
therealslimmartinw at 00:48:33 Wednesday October 8 2003
TCMP. A simple question. Mentioned earlier but no answer. I think it is important that there is clarity over Peter Miller's position now he is chief executive. Can fans be assured that he will have no conflict of loyalties, bearing his mind his track record with the Luton Town debacle? There was confusion then about his role with the club some thought he was commercial manager , he says so himself, when he was acting as consultant for the consortium that tried to take over Luton. As you know he signed the letters that mean Joe Kinnear and Mick Harford would not have a part in Luton back in May. The club's postion I am aware was that he was only a consultant for us at that time. Can we also have clarified his position with the Caribbean footballers management agency Pro Sports. He remains a founding father of the enterprise with a huge financial interest in ensuring Caribbean footballers get professional contracts in this country. The Pro Sports organisation plays great credence to Mr Miller's connections in this country, Aston Villa, Dundee and many others, clearly with a view to show local talent that they have a way to get into big clubs in this country. Their messages give constant updates about Northampton Town's progress, because of Mr Miller's link. And at the time of the Luton debacle, Miller's company talked about his partner in Pro Sports Terry Fenwick, the former Cobblers manager, taking the reins at Luton after Kinnear was "shown the door" as they put it. Given that we went a bit Trinidad football crazy during the summer with, the aborted pre season trip to Trinidad and the propose link with a football club over there, can we have an assurance that the club is not going to be unduly affected by someone's financial interest alone and that these and future decisions are made for purely footballing reasons with the club's best interest solely in mind. Do you not think it would be best for the purposes of public confidence in his role that he he resign his Pro Sports role so that people can see that all decisions he makes are not in any way affected by this financial interest and that he is devoting 100% of his time to the club. We are hopefully entering an exciting new time it would be wrong to have any conflicts of interest in any way affecting our progress.
jamie at 00:16:39 Wednesday October 8 2003
cheers roo,nice info.lets hope he is our man then! what are your hopes of beattie being up front on saturday then? he should definately be given a chance to start i think.
Roo at 23:23:49 Tuesday October 7 2003
Here's something I found on the web that MIGHT be of interest to you:
JOHN WARD
Born 7th April 1951 in Lincoln.
Lincoln City Career 263 appearances and 99 goals, between 1969-1979 and 1982.
Position: Centre-forward.
Clubs: Lincoln City, Workington, Watford and Grimsby.
A very popular player who is one of the all time great Lincoln players, however John's City career was nearly over before it hardly began as he was loaned to Workington from September to November 1973. Fortunately before any deal was struck with Workington, the then manager David Herd departed and Graham Taylor took over. Graham recognised John's talent and kept him at Sincil Bank where John was to play a vital role in the success Lincoln enjoyed under Graham. Especially during the 1975/76 season when Lincoln were crowned Division 4 Champions with a record points tally, John contributed 29 league and cup goals that season.
Remained at Lincoln after Graham Taylor departed to join Watford but suffered an injury very early in the 1977/78 season which kept him out of action for the rest of that season. Upon his return most of the Championship team had left, personnel had changed rapidly first under manager George Kerr and then under new manager Willie Bell. John now found himself playing with a team widely described as the "worst team Lincoln ever had" and he decided to move on, reuniting with Graham and several other ex-Imps including Sam Ellis, at Watford. The move earned Lincoln £15,000 but it was the end of an era, though John did returned briefly during the final part of the 1981/82 season. Manager Colin Murphy signed him as cover from Grimsby Town but he made only one further appearance, against Swindon.
At the end of the season John quit playing and was appointed Watford's coach under Graham Taylor. John and Graham are best of friends and John has followed Graham to Aston Villa as coach and even become a part time England coach when Graham was England manager.
The partnership broke up when in November 1991 John was appointed York City's manager in his first managerial position, it was not long before York gained promotion from Division 4. Further management roles at Bristol Rovers and Bristol City has seen John achieve promotion at both.
After a falling out at Bristol City John left and rather ironically is now at one of Graham's former clubs, Wolves, as assistant manager to Colin Lee. John's departure from Bristol City coincided with the sacking of Shane Westley and many Lincoln supporters, including myself, felt that John should have been offered the Lincoln manager's job. A Lincoln born player, popular with supporters and a highly successfully manager John was and still is ideal for the position.
There's a hip n groovy picture of him on the website - the address is http://www.theimp.lincolnfans.co.uk/retro6.shtml. Hope this is of interest. See? Lassies CAN be useful sometimes. I shall be keeping my fingers crossed for you all tomorrow - I'm sure it will be the start of better things for the club. And, if not, I'm sure that Jasper (my Staffordshire Bull Terrier, pictured here on Sunday) and the weapons of mass destruction that line his gums can see to it that Carlton Palmer is never heard from again. Roo xx
A Childs View at 23:18:08 Tuesday October 7 2003
Well, ACV may just have called this one right it seems - as soon as Wilko was sacked I was suggesting we go and get Wardy - just check out the posts I made, spot on me thinks!! I really hope it is this guy, he's got the right kind of balanced personality and a proven track record, not a name that everybody knows but a football man through and through - his Bristol City were a joy to watch when they cruised the 2nd division and most City fans disagreed with his dismissal in the 1st in favour of the muppet Benny Lennartson. We won't go far wrong with this guy, a steady eddy and just what we need for the next 5 years - play some football, become professional and slow and sure progress up the leagues. I'll be delighted if its Wardy - a nice two syllable name for shouting songs with as well!! Well done Mr Cardoza, provided this isn't all wrong, you've done a great thing for our club and I for one will be very optimistic about our future in your's and Mr Wards hands - begs the question really, why on earth did we settle for Wilkinson in the first place?
therealslimmartinw at 23:09:45 Tuesday October 7 2003
Good point andy turner, but neither Dudfield or Smithy have the background to be as prolific as Stan the man. We have released so many players that have gone on to do the business elsewhere. But you cannot ignore class. And Collymore is a class act as but needs to be managed. You just make sure the contract is designed to ensure the club does not suffer if he has another bout of 'not playingitis' . Bring it on!!!! Rochdale... dead meat on Saturday. Carlton Palmer???? Arnold Palmer, more like. Onwards and upwards with the mighty sWard.
Huge at 23:02:15 Tuesday October 7 2003
If it is John Ward then it is a huge signing, its allright for those who don't follow the game to say who? but before they get carried away with their own pessimism they should ask themselves how many ex England coaches have ever managed the Cobblers, or even how many Cobblers managers (apart from Dave Bowen) have won promotion at every level? The board would seem to have more football nounse than I thought they would. Ward was a Graham Taylor prodigy and partner and at 52 in managerial terms still has a lot to offer. good work fellas.
Gomez at 22:45:11 Tuesday October 7 2003
As modest and humble as you Ted, may I say?
Ted at 22:42:21 Tuesday October 7 2003
By the way,I listened to the play on radio 4 this afternoon.What a great guy that Walter Tull was.However I'm even more convinced that he'd find his memorial at Sixfields a touch embarrassing.Such a modest humble man,unlike the tossers today.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 22:41:09 Tuesday October 7 2003
I hope our new manager will prove beyond all arguement that we do not need a goal scorer. Just a few examples, Sam Parkin, scoring for fun before he arrived at the Cobblers, doing it again at Swindon. Steve Howard, banging them in for a while now down at Luton. Marco, top scorer at Darlo for two years, now finding the scoresheet at the Monkey Hangers, Darryn Stamp, doing the business at Chester. In recent years we have had goalscorers at Sixfields, we now have Smithy and Dudders who both have scored goals in other teams, so surely must have an eye for goal somewhere within them. Lets stop undermining their confidence by claiming they are not good enough. With the right service and support both on and off the pitch, all these Cobblers strikers can score goals. Lets hope the new boss can bring the best out of those we have.
Ted at 22:34:17 Tuesday October 7 2003
we want TED!!! I tell you what,I'd love to have a pop at being manager.After reading the Daily Mail today about the "roasting"antics of over-paid over-sexed professional footballers,I'd sort the wan***s out.They're bringing the beautiful game into disrepute,and something needs to be done!
Roller Coaster at 22:30:42 Tuesday October 7 2003
Lets hope this is our last new manager for 5 years, and he has the ability to bring the team up to 1st div standard, as well as groom his own successor. 2003 has not been the best on the pitch, lets hope it's put right.
therealslimmartinw at 22:27:48 Tuesday October 7 2003
Let's bring on Wardy and while your at in bring in Stan Collymore. A little older, a littler wiser, a little bit less of a nutter, just 32 and free. He could go to Southend and he is looking for a club "who are very ambitious and going places" . Can you imagine what he could do to Third Division defences. We dont have a goalscorer, he is one of the best out there when his head is on. For god sake he must be worth a gamble.He has said that he is not doing it for money but for football reasons. His private life is his private life. That was then this is now. Those that say no to him, ask yourself were you in favour of Gascoigne playing for England with all the allegations surrounding him. Recent headlines show that there are enough problem players around, look at Newcastle. Bobby Robson collects them. Bowyer, would we not have him? Come on Collymore for the Cobblers. With Wardy as manager. You know it makes sense.
Missing in Action at 22:15:23 Tuesday October 7 2003
If anybody knows the whereabouts of regular contributers to the official board, "HEGGSY" and "BINGLEYCOBBLER", can you tell them they can find the gang on http://www.thehotelend.cjb.net/
Anon at 21:26:42 Tuesday October 7 2003
Marc richards got the other one
Anon at 21:23:19 Tuesday October 7 2003
I see the res won AGAIN and scoring
They won 3-1 del boy scored harsley and errrrr dont know the other
But mayb we should put the whole res team in for sats game
The Calverton Cobbler at 21:11:13 Tuesday October 7 2003
Just a thought! During John Ward's time as manager of York, he had a promising though injury ravaged centre half by the name of Ray Warburton!! Perhaps he would be an ideal no. 2??
we want TED!!!! at 20:56:38 Tuesday October 7 2003
TED for manager
Anon at 20:52:28 Tuesday October 7 2003
Have faith !
Anon at 20:19:34 Tuesday October 7 2003
from the BBC Carlisle page tonight: " However, assistant manager John Ward will continue to work without a contract.
The 52-year-old former Aston Villa and Wolves coach has been connected with the vacancies at Northampton, Tranmere and Wycombe and
wants to keep his options open. " What did TCMP write the other day?
Eastander at 20:12:23 Tuesday October 7 2003
Didn't know much about Ward til' I read it on here seems a good guy, hope he's got big boots and is good at kicking arses
Harold Shipman at 20:11:57 Tuesday October 7 2003
I've heard hes in the frame to be Fred's No. 2?
steve2 at 20:10:53 Tuesday October 7 2003
Shut up Trevour.
steve2 at 20:10:43 Tuesday October 7 2003
Shut up Trevour.
TREVOUR at 20:06:05 Tuesday October 7 2003
IT WILL BE WARD, HE INTERVIEWS WELL,AFRAID ITS NOT A YOUNG TRACK SUITED HUNGRY MANAGER THE CLUB NEEDS
Anon at 20:04:57 Tuesday October 7 2003
Not a done deal I hear - press conference tomorrow delayed according to t.v. tonight
Fred West at 20:04:08 Tuesday October 7 2003<