Cobblers Comments
September 2003
village boy at 23:16:31 Tuesday September 30 2003
Its obvious the Chronic want to sell more papers in MK,or to those people in Northampton who are interested in whats going on in MK.With a 1st division, or 2nd side next season on their doorstep they want to promote the new team, you can't blame them can you?
Fred_NTFC at 22:51:22 Tuesday September 30 2003
I think Broadhurst or even Wilson would be a step backwards, they both did well but proved that they were sometimes tactically naive.
I really hope Mr Cardoza doesn't give it to Hill we need someone who is proven at this level to get the best out of the talented squad that Martin has arranged. My choice would be Cotterill.
Wish List at 22:44:43 Tuesday September 30 2003
Kevan Broadhurst / Stuart Pearce
Anon at 22:34:20 Tuesday September 30 2003
Trust me Hill will be given the to at least the end of the season
BUT will have a someone comming in as a D/O/F
Anon at 22:17:23 Tuesday September 30 2003
from listening to his interview, i get the feeling he is very much in the frame, im not too keen, i mean yeah weve all seen it, new boss. team goes on winning run and then the defeats start and the slide begins, i think hill should stay but we should have a completely new face in!!
ADE at 22:16:52 Tuesday September 30 2003
NOT EVEN FUNNY!!!
Anon at 22:11:40 Tuesday September 30 2003
Hill we be named manager until the end of the season
Website Hell at 22:15:43 Tuesday September 30 2003
Those Newcastle players don't realise what they've done....can't even discuss an exciting 0-0 draw.....in an official manner!!!
Anon at 22:11:40 Tuesday September 30 2003
Hill we be named manager until the end of the season
Hill at 21:55:18 Tuesday September 30 2003
At least we know he wont get it!!!
Anon at 21:44:04 Tuesday September 30 2003
Once Reading make their announcement I reckon we will be clearer on our new manager. Dowie would be my number 1 choice with Cotterill a close second.
Anon at 21:37:00 Tuesday September 30 2003
0-0 full time
Anon at 21:36:53 Tuesday September 30 2003
Full Time 0-0! Happy with that i suppose!!
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:23:43 Tuesday September 30 2003
Direones 1-2 down at home. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Sean at 21:20:04 Tuesday September 30 2003
2-0 to Celtic.
Come on Cobblers - make things perfect.
Low must score
Anon at 21:15:01 Tuesday September 30 2003
what names have we had linked so far,kinnear, cotterill, coppell, adams, any more?
Sid at 21:14:51 Tuesday September 30 2003
Change: Marc Richards for Steve Morison
Anon at 21:13:00 Tuesday September 30 2003
Franchise FC losing
The Three Wise men at 21:11:57 Tuesday September 30 2003
Dudfields getting in on the act now.
Sid at 21:11:27 Tuesday September 30 2003
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh! (In a West Stand "the striker's just missed a 30 yarder by a whisker!" stylee) Erm, Dudfield over the bar.
Comeback at 21:10:07 Tuesday September 30 2003
It's the second shot of the night though. There must be a star in the east.
Anon at 21:08:24 Tuesday September 30 2003
how any 1 on ones has low missed this season? It must be something of a record!!
Comeback at 21:08:16 Tuesday September 30 2003
What did ya tell us dude?
Told ya at 21:06:43 Tuesday September 30 2003
About Morison
Comeback at 21:05:16 Tuesday September 30 2003
Wahay! A shot off target! Declare a public holiday and hang the buntin in Abington Street!
Ashcobb at 21:02:25 Tuesday September 30 2003
First goal attempt! Low 1 on 1 with keeper and missed.
Treenie at 20:58:20 Tuesday September 30 2003
Cordwainer - If the MK Dons aren't seen as one of the major teams in the "area" how come they've got a bigger match preview today than the direones!!!
Sean at 20:58:10 Tuesday September 30 2003
Come on your Cobblers (and the Celtic)
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:53:41 Tuesday September 30 2003
Commentary restored. I thought that the official mesage boards had been closed whilst all of the Newcastle player rumours were circulating? Or have the names been confirmed? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Sean at 20:50:19 Tuesday September 30 2003
Commentary working at last - come on your Cobbs
Big Roy at 20:50:16 Tuesday September 30 2003
or at least stop wearing those bloody 3/4 length too white socks.
Sean at 20:44:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
PS - we will win in the second-half
Sean at 20:43:51 Tuesday September 30 2003
Hill out??? I think Hill should put a shirt on and get on the pitch
Comeback at 20:38:01 Tuesday September 30 2003
Sorry, eight shots and nine corners. I must get the stats right or TRSMW will tie me to a chair and bore me to death not once but ad infinitum or until we score a goal, whichever comes first.
Comeback at 20:35:51 Tuesday September 30 2003
No shots to their 9. Too close to call really. Hill out!
Cobbs corner No 3 at 20:24:24 Tuesday September 30 2003
Comeback at 20:23:36 Tuesday September 30 2003
No shots on or off target yet. It's good innit?
Inter Macclesfield 1 Dinamo Kidderminster 1 at 20:21:25 Tuesday September 30 2003
Vale 1 Fen Dwellers 0 at 20:17:58 Tuesday September 30 2003
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Eastander at 20:16:11 Tuesday September 30 2003
Wilko's departure was only a matter of time, Hill's no better when interviewed Saturday afternoon after the Oxford disaster he didn't appear to know what formation the team were playing, and he's supposed to be the coach. What does concern me is that we have had an almost complete change on the field this season but the same problems as we seem to have had for seasons no matter who's playing or who's in charge , is there some disrupting influence behind the scenes somewhere that none of us know about
Cordwainer at 20:14:39 Tuesday September 30 2003
Got this reply to my e-mails complaining about Chron coverage of Franchise FC:
Thank you for taking the trouble to e-mail me. Basically we have applied the same policy to the Dons that we do to many leisure pursuits of interest to people living in our circulation area.
We have carried Milton Keynes theatre news since it opened and we often have competitions which involve the shopping centre there because we have a large section of our readership which looks to Milton Keynes in the south of the county. Of course the MK Dons, or whatever they end up being called, will never be a major club for us but we feel it is right to carry the basic information people in that area might want, just as our colleagues at the ET in Kettering feature Leicester City etc and the Coventry Evening Telegraph has regularly featured the Cobblers.
I have supported the Cobblers from an early age and we not only support them editorially but financially as well and that will never change. My other team is Man City so I know all about the highs and lows of changing football fortunes.The argument about the setting up of the 'MK franchise club' as it has been labelled in some quarters, is not one we have any influence on and whatever my personal feelings on that issue are, we still have to be even-handed. I thought it was daft that Milton Keynes built a theatre with a similar profile to the Derngate but that is not sufficient grounds for us not to carry information about shows etc.
The Chron is a paper for Cobblers fans and we worked hard at raising a considerable sum for the club with the recent SOS appeal. Success for the Cobblers will mean improved circulation for the Chron, make no mistake about that, and we are committed to supporting them as strongly as we have done over the years.
I hope this has gone some way to making our position clearer.
Mark Edwards, editor
Lincoln's 7th corner at 20:12:38 Tuesday September 30 2003
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Anon at 20:12:05 Tuesday September 30 2003
Is Morison really playing? and is it 5-3-2 or is Carruthers playing in midfield?
Im in now at 20:10:10 Tuesday September 30 2003
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Anon at 20:09:50 Tuesday September 30 2003
they're all over us! Nothing changes there then!!!
Sean at 20:09:37 Tuesday September 30 2003
Live text commentary on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/teams/n/northampton_town/html/live_hi.stm
NT FCOK at 20:07:11 Tuesday September 30 2003
tonight score is only important as far as points dont they allways win for the EX-manager {lol} Methinks they will be trying to impress all that will be watching IE the new man, believe in me the Cardozzas are shrude he is here allready, MW did not have a seasson long contract did he just a short term appointment based on results he was there at the right time and got the job, we can afford many of the best who will want to come here every body was talking of uniting and helping MW in other words stop moaning ,but that was all but bullshit it was never going to happen, NOW is to time to go forward as one and support the team this was a big decision by the owners but one that was going to happen, MW was never long term, but whoever is will be and will have to be supported through thick and thin. these are the days we will look to and not the last ten games who just like TF will be forgotten in the mists of time. COME ON YOU COBBLERS,, WELL DONE MR C & Son. you have my support
Sean at 20:06:37 Tuesday September 30 2003
0-0 after 20 mins
Sean at 20:04:12 Tuesday September 30 2003
I having the same problem
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:02:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
Yes, I keep getting "error Coming soon, this new section will appear shortly. Please check back later"
I've just been notified that my subscription payment has been taken out but I can't get onto the bloody thing.. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!! What is the score???
Yes at 19:57:23 Tuesday September 30 2003
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Anon at 19:55:18 Tuesday September 30 2003
anyone else have probs connecting to "Cobblers World"?
Sean - London at 19:54:42 Tuesday September 30 2003
Anyone listening to the commentary and can tell me what's going on?
Bexxy at 18:55:57 Tuesday September 30 2003
God...i wish i was at the game tonight (or rather in the pub near the game!!)
Anti Franchise at 18:20:51 Tuesday September 30 2003
This is the e-mail that I received today from the Chronicle & Echo regarding coveage of the MK Dons.Thank you for taking the trouble to e-mail me. Basically we have applied
the same policy to the Dons that we do to many leisure pursuits of
interest to people living in our circulation area.
We have carried Milton Keynes theatre news since it opened and we often
have competitions which involve the shopping centre there because we
have a large section of our readership which looks to Milton Keynes in
the south of the county. Of course the MK Dons, or whatever they end up
being called, will never be a major club for us but we feel it is right
to carry the basic information people in that area might want, just as
our colleagues at the ET in Kettering feature Leicester City etc and the
Coventry Evening Telegraph has regularly featured the Cobblers.
I have supported the Cobblers from an early age and we not only support
them editorially but financially as well and that will never change. My
other team is Man City so I know all about the highs and lows of
changing football fortunes.The argument about the setting up of the 'MK
franchise club' as it has been labelled in some quarters, is not one we
have any influence on and whatever my personal feelings on that issue
are, we still have to be even-handed. I thought it was daft that Milton
Keynes built a theatre with a similar profile to the Derngate but that
is not sufficient grounds for us not to carry information about shows
etc.
The Chron is a paper for Cobblers fans and we worked hard at raising a
considerable sum for the club with the recent SOS appeal. Success for
the Cobblers will mean improved circulation for the Chron, make no
mistake about that, and we are committed to supporting them as strongly
as we have done over the years.
I hope this has gone some way to making our position clearer.
Fed up at 18:13:04 Tuesday September 30 2003
I can’t believe the mentality of the people who post on this site saying that they warned us about Wilko and now seem to be trying to take some sort of credit for predicting his downfall. There’s a guy at the local who is the same….always negative and then saying ‘I warned you that this would happen’ as if the average supporter is responsible just for getting behind the team. The majority of people probably thought that Wilko was not the right man for the job, but when he was appointed by the board it was right to get behind him, Richard Hill and his new signings. That it has ended in tears is no reason for anyone to try and bask in some reflected glory…..grow up.
Lincoln Watch at 18:02:36 Tuesday September 30 2003
Nice clear blue sky over Lincoln at present time
LH at 17:51:19 Tuesday September 30 2003
Like the look of the new manager , will we be playing two up front ?
Just a thought at 17:15:40 Tuesday September 30 2003
Oh Dear @ 16:06....your middle name wouldn't be William would it?
Anon at 16:55:23 Tuesday September 30 2003
The reason all official guest books ahve been closed down is because of the premiership footballers who have been named for the rape they are allegedly Carlton Cole, Titus Bramble, Keiran Dyer. I don't know if it is true but lets hope not
MKMal at 16:50:19 Tuesday September 30 2003
The reason we have no new injury worries for tonights game is that noone made a tackle on Saturday to get injured. The players have to look at themselves as well as the Manager!
welll support u ever more!! at 16:46:24 Tuesday September 30 2003
Dirty Den will return as our new manager, and then ala Bill dodgyin, it will be Dirty Dennis Junior with the luvely Sharon!!!
village boy at 16:41:19 Tuesday September 30 2003
Next man in? I'll give him until Xmas.
JUNK SHOP MAN at 16:35:46 Tuesday September 30 2003
1 HOUR AND 20 MINUTES FROM N`tOWN TO sLEAFORD IN MY OLD VAN THEN 20 minutes to lincoln, total 1 hour 40 minutes, so by car ---------->>>>>>>
Junk Shop Man at 16:33:39 Tuesday September 30 2003
Northampton (A43 on to A1 just before Stamford, come off just past Costleworth to Ancaster) then onto Sleaford/Ruskington (where Junk Shop Man lives) near Sleaford 66 miles and then 14 to lincoln, I make that 80 miles, I will be leaving home at 7pm (just got home from sunny Northampton, A1 was clear)!!!
Morison will start tonight at 16:08:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
Fact!!
Oh Dear at 16:06:36 Tuesday September 30 2003
Oh dear, I wondered howlong it would be before the "We told you so" brigade would start bleeting. What tag and rsm have to carry is the knowledge that their constant barracking was probably a part in the pressure that led to Wilko's downfall. Give me fans like TCMP and for that matter David Cardoza who are 100% behind the club, than those who criticise from the edges. When the Trust were proved right about Di Stefano they never launched a "we were right" offensive and tag and rsm should learn that humility comes with maturity. I have a poor view of tag and rsm simply because they are always negative and never give a positive outlook. Thank god the club listen to all the fans rather than just the negative few else we would be changing our manager on a weekly basis. Whoever does get the job after whatever process needs the support of all the fans yet I get the feeling rsm will already have his stats book out looking at the record of the candidiates and tag will already be looking at the meesage boards to see what anyone anywhere has said about them at any time. What a sad pair they really are.
Atkins at 15:34:32 Tuesday September 30 2003
Where have the rumours surfaced from that he has applied?
Dave at 15:33:38 Tuesday September 30 2003
So why don't they report on Coventry games then anon? Or Leicester City?
Anon at 15:30:58 Tuesday September 30 2003
Fancy reporting on some sports news..... Shock horror
Anon at 15:30:01 Tuesday September 30 2003
Dave - perhaps the Chron is trying to reflect the fact that some of its customers may have an interest in Wimbledon and actually attend games just a few miles away.
Info at 15:00:43 Tuesday September 30 2003
All Official club posts have gone down due to the Newcastle players been named everywhere and the legal implications
Update at 14:59:20 Tuesday September 30 2003
Thanks
Anon at 14:30:02 Tuesday September 30 2003
This really is a new era. A post from rsmw less than a line in length - start as you mean to on mate.
Anon at 14:26:53 Tuesday September 30 2003
Is anyone else having problems getting on the NTFC official message board?
therealslimmartinw at 14:21:40 Tuesday September 30 2003
Lets get the new era off to a good start with a win at Lincoln. We can do it.
Anon at 14:12:06 Tuesday September 30 2003
Thanks all. Wont be able to go after all then. Wont be able to get going until 6pm (work won't let me go early). Was hoping it was only 1 & 1/2 hour drive.
Wilko at 14:01:25 Tuesday September 30 2003
Good luck Richard and Mark.......hope you cope without me
Route to Lincoln at 13:57:11 Tuesday September 30 2003
If you live in Kingsthorpe area I would suggest Welford Road to A14, A14 to M1. Leave M1 at junction 21A and take A46 through Newark and on to Lincoln. 93 miles but a good 60 miles are dual carriageway/motorway.
United Front at 13:53:46 Tuesday September 30 2003
It sounds like Bobby Robson might be out of work (resignation)soon. Do you think he fancies a challenge?
Dave at 13:52:19 Tuesday September 30 2003
Guys I really feel that you need to protest to the Chron and Echo regading their coverage of Wimbledon, particularly if this is to be a regular feature. You have to ask why a local paper would choose to report on a club in another county, particulary as you cannot even buy the paper in Milton Keynes. I can only think that the Chron is trying to either damage the club by attracting fans from NTFC or Winkelman has a mate high up at the Chron and has slipped him a few quid! Either way you should make your feelings known!
LH at 13:49:03 Tuesday September 30 2003
A43 to Stamford , A1 to Newark , A46 to Lincoln . follow old A46 through North Hykham into City. A46 & Parking are Crap, if you leave at 5.45 you could be struggling .
Badger at 13:43:14 Tuesday September 30 2003
Anybody going to the game tonight who can give the Badger a lift... from Irchester....No transport...will pay for petrol or to get in the game....please email....thanks
Middlebill at 13:38:49 Tuesday September 30 2003
It is just under 89 miles form Sixfields to Sincel bank. The given travelling time from the AA is 1 hour 46 min. Kick-off is at 7.45pm so latest leaving time from Northampton would 5.45pm. Hope this helps.
Matt Scott at 13:38:11 Tuesday September 30 2003
Harsley please
Anon at 13:33:30 Tuesday September 30 2003
Can anyone tell me how long it takes to get to Lincoln from Northampton and what time kick off is?
Bellamy/Dyer at 13:27:18 Tuesday September 30 2003
Whoops again
Once More For The Hard of Reading! at 13:24:01 Tuesday September 30 2003
Only one reference to Hill? I don't think so!! I have said on numerous occasions that we need a clean sweep right down to Dennis Casey. The club is blighted and the cause runs deep. Advertise, take advice, take time and appoint the right man.
Anon for obvious reasons at 13:22:00 Tuesday September 30 2003
In reply to Anon at 12:38......lifted from Villa website
"according to latest reports, allegedly the players involved are:
Newcastle: Bramble, Dyer,
> Bellamy, Ameobi, Bernard, Ambrose and Jenas. The other player, with
> whom she allegedly consented, is either Ashley Cole or Carlton Cole."
WHC at 13:10:42 Tuesday September 30 2003
Is Hill part of the problem? There has only been one reference so far on this board discussing how much he may have contributed to the naff strategy, team selections and tactics. I for one will be looking closely at the line up tonight to see if we revert to a good solid 4-4-2 or continue with the very stupid 4-3-3 with two wingers and a centre forward. Congrats to Drilling Cobbler, your team for tonight is about right.
Middlebill at 12:55:03 Tuesday September 30 2003
David Cardoza says in the Chron,......."You would be surprised at the names that have come in already, they are very impressive."........Wouldn't you just love to know who those "Names" are?
therealslimmartinw at 12:39:20 Tuesday September 30 2003
Interesting comments by Chris Hargreaves on Wilkinson: "We can't spend the money we have and only be halfway up the table, we need to be up there and challenging.
"To be honest we are no better off than we were when we survived that season in the second division and there have been a lot of changes since then."
"There have been injuries to important players there is no doubt about that.
"But I don't know whether there was a bit of confusion about whether he was involved in training not enough or involved too much.
"At the start of the season he said he would be in the offices more than on the training pitch, but then towards the end that situation was unclear.
"I think he was getting a little anxious about results, but I think you just have to do one or the other. You either have to be on training pitch every day or in the office every day."
Anon at 12:38:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
Anyone know who thesse players are that are accusesd of assulting that 17yr old lass in london ??
A couple of players names was leaked on a brittish web-site yesterday but later removed that day
Just wondered who u think it mite be ??
therealslimmartinw at 12:36:15 Tuesday September 30 2003
Good to hear that there is already big interest in the management job and that the chairman has assured fans that they will do everything to find the right man.
Which is what you would expect. He says it will take a few days to make the right decision and would love to have someone in by Saturday, which is surprising, unless he already has someone in mind. My opinion is that we should take our time and advertise the post rather than rush in. I know that word about the vacancy gets around and also it is clear which managers are out there, so maybe the publicity alone acts as an ad. And notice that Cardoza has said the reasons for firing Wilkinson were poor results. So for those that seem to think that doesnt matter, here we have a chairman that thinks they do. We dont have to look at the unemployed, of course. Useful to no the transfer window doesnt apply to us.. we could then get Finidi George and Branko Stupar on a free transfer, then. If we could afford them.
Middlebill at 12:31:41 Tuesday September 30 2003
ANON at 12.06: Just how stupid are you? I was giving examples of some of the clap trap you hear on here and you then take that as me saying those things. I'd get back to school if I were you, you obviously need the education.
forthebenefitofthedoubters at 12:23:50 Tuesday September 30 2003
Wilkinson spoke on defence of his unbelievable comments about last season's players and in particular Asamoah saying: "It is wrong for any manager to criticise individual players in public, that is for the dressing room and I am not criticising Derek Asamoah. What I was trying to explain was why he wasn't in the team on Tuesday.
I know he's a fans' favourite and I know why he is a fans' favourite. He is exciting, he livens things up and he runs at players. But he is more exciting when he comes on as a sub. He is a pacy player and you can't expect him to play 90 minutes at that pace.
"So when he comes on late in a game, that explosive power is still there when, hopefully, opposition defenders are tiring, and I think that's where he comes into his own.
"I have no axe to grind with Derek Asamoah. The question was asked, 'Is he the saviour for the team?' Well the facts and his strike-rate say that he isn't.
"But I think Derek is a smashing guy, I have nothing against him and I am not criticising him.
"Derek is like any other player, you have to play them to their strengths. Derek is still part of the squad, he will hopefully still come on and cause the opposition problems and I think he is a good player." The facts that he was never brought on against Oxford, when his observations of Del would have been put to full effect.
Arthurnon at 12:21:14 Tuesday September 30 2003
Middlebill wont like you coming on as 'anon' anon!!
Anon at 12:06:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
Middlebill, you really are the most boring bastard of all time. Of course every manager has a downside. There were too many downsides to Martin Wilkinson which is why he got the boot. To say that Sven wouldnt be a good choice because he is not English and that Fergie would be no good because he is in Division 3 and Wenger no use because he is foreign shows the kind of brainless drivel that u have spouted for too long. Can you actually try and post something that has some kind of footballing brain or are you some kind of sick. Lastly the chairman has to foot the bill but he well knows the fans pay their money.
Middlebill at 12:03:09 Tuesday September 30 2003
Good point old stratford cobbler and Teaboy. Shall we just say that in all LIKELYHOOD, when we do part with the new manager it won't be in amicable circumstances. Hows that!
MP2 at 11:52:51 Tuesday September 30 2003
I'd be happy with John Ward (or Alan Buckley or Joe Kinnear)
DaveTwo at 11:43:49 Tuesday September 30 2003
All this talk about the new manager, but what about the players responsibilities? They should take a good look at their own performances and ask: have I given 100%? Have I performed anywhere near to my know abilities? Tactics and managers' responsibilities are undenied. But when players take to the field, regardless of what system they are playing (if any!), fans rightly expect professional players to give of their best and to work hard for their money.
Anon at 11:29:09 Tuesday September 30 2003
JOHN WARD - SAY NO MORE
Old Stratford Cobbler at 11:21:23 Tuesday September 30 2003
Middlebill at 11:08:08, if our manager becomes so successful that he moves on or is poached by another club, is that called getting the sack? Or is he sacking the Club?
Keith at 11:20:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
I see that Richard Hill is praising the fans for being so loyal and following the team all over, even though we are not playing well. Sounds like the opening of his mangerial appointment campaign.
Tea Boy at 11:18:22 Tuesday September 30 2003
Statistics prove that he is LIKELY to get the sack Middlebill, not WILL get the sack!
Middlebill at 11:10:32 Tuesday September 30 2003
By the way, if and when he does get the sack, even if it is 20 years down the line. Don't forget, I was the first one on here to tell you so!
Middlebill at 11:08:08 Tuesday September 30 2003
Just pause to think for one second lads!......... Ok, name the new manager, anybody you like?...........I can assure you that whoever you choose, somebody will have a downside. Sven? He's not English! Ferguson? Doesn't know Division 3. Keegan? Useless as England manager. Wenger? (see Sven)........Then how about the names banded on here? Kinnear? Look down the board. Gregory? Look down the board. Cotterill? Look down the board. Hill? Look down the board................The truth is there is no manager who is certain to bring us success. That man doesn't exist. If he did, every other club would be after him. A choice has to be made and without doubt, whoever it is, some people on here wont like it. I've got an opinion, David Cardoza will have an opinion, you've all got opinions, and all are valid. However it is our chairman that will have to foot the bill and therefore, after listening to everybodies opinion, most conflicting, will have to make up his own mind. It is up to us as supporters to give the chosen man our support, at least until he proves he doesn't deserve it........Now here is a final thought. Whoever the new fellow is, statistics prove, he will end up getting the sack eventually!
moany from the west at 10:56:20 Tuesday September 30 2003
mw had to be relieved of managerial duties but i think he should have been found a job upstairs unless there was serious unrest in the camp.Why sack kearney the reserves look impressive this season and he seems to be the only one around with any passion.hill in charge does nt have to be short term he can be caretaker until the right man for the job comes along if the results come in ok theres no need to panic and get another manager straight away just for the sake of it ,the next gaffer has got to be right.i for one think hill wanted this opportunity for quite a while but i will be surprised if he can hold onto it. on a personal note i hope we get Talbot to travel the extra 25 miles!!
NT FCOK at 10:35:30 Tuesday September 30 2003
Twitcher do you call yourself that because your mum caught you twitching in front of the monitor,, we have a golden opportunity for every body concerned and go forward together and see some positive talk for once from all,smart remarks like yours keeps the past alive dosn'T IT ( how smart was that)
NT FCOK at 10:31:04 Tuesday September 30 2003
Anon: If I remember correctly did we not try to get Reidy before the apppointment of atko, and was it not the case he got offered the job at sunderland and accepted it instaed of looking at us??, if this is even remotely true then he would be the best signing we have ever made . he is a man that others fear we need someone like him.
Twitcher at 10:28:09 Tuesday September 30 2003
If you are going to Lincoln tonight take your binoculars with you and report back here the names of any unemployed managers spotted in the main stand.
NT FCOK at 10:25:45 Tuesday September 30 2003
Drilling :spending was allways the luton chairmans responsibility and you are right in saying that if JK came here he would have to work with a budget so all that happened to them was their own fault and JK got the sack for it, but didn't he do well for them , he prised stevie from us for a song in a relegation embattled team heading for the third .JK would be a great choice because he allways commands repect from players and fans alike ,just look at the street protests at his sacking in luton that is a lot of respect, that would of never happened for wilko would it,even the biggest optomists on here would never dream of doing that for him would they, I just think that most of them just try to keep face and say he's the best thing since swiss cheese, FULL OF HOLES and if you slice it thin enough you can see straight through it just like them.
Anon at 10:17:37 Tuesday September 30 2003
Peter Reid is going to be sacked. David snap him up he'll turn this club round
NT FCOK at 10:14:06 Tuesday September 30 2003
lets look at the best managers around and approach them why do we allways set our sights too low and why have we got to look at the unemployed???? we have just as much right to approach any manager as does any other team we allways talk about ourselves as second rate, THAT HAS CHANGED!!!!! we are in an excellent position for the first time in this clubs history and we can do more than we have ever dreamed of so why look at the rag-tags and out of job no-hopers we have to try and set standards and not just follow them!!!!!!!!!!LAUGHING STOCK'S NO MORE, these are very exciting times for the cobbs but it was never repeat NEVER ever going to happen with wilko who would struggle in the conference, as a team would you be afraid of playing against his tactics despite him spending big money on players ? any manager out there held no fear for him and never will, we need a man who can do this for us. He was there at the right time and was given a chance and the first thing he wanted to do was to bring in broads as number two before getting any players he never had the confidence to go forward as number one and should of resigned at the end of the season.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:12:37 Tuesday September 30 2003
Middlebill - I'm certainly not in the 'I told you so' camp. If the previous board were still here and considerations on costs/wages were needed I am sure Richard Hill could have counted himself in the frame - but we have moved on since then and with almost 1million pounds worth of bids rejected in the summer there must surely be the available funds to bring in someone with proven credentials to hopefully fulfill the aims setout in the 5year plan, ie 1st division football. Would you honestly be enthused if Richard Hill was given that opportunity? Even if as you have said/intimated many times you support the Cordoza's regardless of what they do. Aside from that, people keep going on about Joe Kinnears free spending whilst at Luton - please take into account that he was obviously given a budget to work with and it would therefore have been the chairmans responsibility to look after the financial side. And the players that are meant to be on big wages there have not exactly performed badly! ie, Howard, Thorpe(hes gone now) both spring to mind for starters. And I doubt that Smiths wage structure would be out of place at Kennilworth Road, nor would Wilmotts (Luton had him on loan), Reids (ex Glasgow Rangers!) and probably many others. Lets face it, the main reason why such players came here was down to money - why else would they have dropped down to the 3rd division? If not, Wilko must have been the best sales person in the world!
Carl Lingcup at 10:03:08 Tuesday September 30 2003
How many names does rsm/tag/dek/puzzled dan have? One point, all made in the same style and all over long and very boring. Well done anyway, you were right all along, we bow at the feet of your immense statistical knowledge, now please shut up.
Cotterill's armpit at 09:58:44 Tuesday September 30 2003
LH, surprised you are not looking for Wilkinson to make a return?
U are right Dowie is not under contract but apparently some managers arent. His brother though, is a better bet. Cotterill didnt have a repuatation for route one he WAS route one.
Anon at 09:55:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
middlebill/proustsummariser/foryouarethesame... u are just like the schoolboy who decides he is getting his ball back because he is not good enough to play football with the rest of the boys. U are very very sad!!!! Middle, you are as much a cyberwarrior as anyone and continually come up with embarrassing posts which only show what a very small person you are. Just admit u got it wrong and move on - people will think more of u for it.
NT FCOK at 09:53:06 Tuesday September 30 2003
well well well 10 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what we dont want now is to step someone up the ladder or bring in ex players or current players approaching the end of their career. we want or I want to see an experienced man "a real manager" at the helm or all will be in vain if people want sammo and such then he will have to start at the bottom and get his coaching badge and whoever will be no 1 will bring in their own choice of second in command that goes without saying and yes we do have a problem getting people fit after injuries ,,,,, there has allways been the problem here! same old faces, we really do need a shake up right from the very bottom right to the top,,"a big broom is needed" was said by someone on here no so long ago and I echo them sentiments.I think we will see a marked change at the imps game although we always do badly away to them but jobs will be on the line for players as the new man will already be waiting to take over and will have seen the last few games , im sure that the Cardozzas will be smart enough to have done that they deserve a lot of credit and will have learned a lot from their short history here. well done Mr C and son you know it makes sense.Im sure as they are that a well known figure will attract a lot of fans and support especially after the dons move ,which incedently came at the wrong time for MW they were actually quing to get in at MK and held up the start ,that for one must have been very worring for the Cardozzas, an old sage once said to me if things dont change then they will stay as they are?
LH at 09:47:26 Tuesday September 30 2003
Of all the names being touted around at the moment I think it would be interested to see if we talk with / interview Iain Dowie from Oldham . I believe that he is not under contract at the moment and he built a very good footballing side . Oldham are still doing very well under extreme circumstances . My concerns on Kinnear are that he will demand a big salary & spent money like water @ Luton. Cant exactly remember but did Cheltenham have a reputation for route one under Cotterill .
money like water a Luton
DEK at 09:44:39 Tuesday September 30 2003
Middlebill, Wilko was a very bad appointment for a board with some financial clout. Please tell me what he was good at in his role as manager (not as scout) cos I'm too thick to see what it was.
Proust Summariser at 09:43:50 Tuesday September 30 2003
For those of you who couldn't be bothered to read the post from therealslimmartinw at 21:23:48 Monday September 29 2003 here are the points: None.
Proust Summariser at 09:40:03 Tuesday September 30 2003
For those of you who couldn't be bothered to read the post from therealslimmartinw at 21:16:26 Monday September 29 2003 - here are the points:
We need a goalscorer and a midfield player but can't get one because the transfer window is closed. (WRONG - does not affect transfers between Nationwide clubs - Ed)
We might not get promotion this year. We need Keith Welch back and Joe Kinnear for manager. Other candidates he likes include Lou Macari, John Gregory, Brian Little, John Aldridge, Steve Cotterill, Trevor Francis, Joe Jordan, Howard Kendall, Bruce Rioch, Graham Rix, Walter Smith and Roy Evans. Those he doesnt like are Gerry Francis
Those who probably would'nt want the job: George Graham, Graham Taylor, Howard Wilkinson, Glenn Hoddle, Gianluca Vialli and Terry Venables. See earlier posts for supporting statistics
H.E. at 09:35:10 Tuesday September 30 2003
I never thought Wilko looked, or acted the part, and the Board are right to be decisive. The vital thing now is to get the right man on board a.s.a.p. and back him absolutely. We have had a rudderless ship for too long, and that's half the problem with the players.
Middlebill at 09:29:25 Tuesday September 30 2003
Dear TCMP, could you please ask David Cordoza when interviews are being conducted for the vacant managers job. Obviously you will need to ensure that TRSMW, Drilling Cobbler, rwilks97, Webmeistergeneral, anon and every other one of the "I told you so brigade" will need to be present in order to steer our beloved chairman in the right direction. Yes I know its his decision, after all, its his club paid for by his money as no doubt the new managers wages will be, but really he obviously can't be trusted to get things right. Best to let the "Cyber Warriors" decide. When the interviews are over, "The gang" would then like to accompany David to his home where they will choose the new decor, select a new car, pick when and where to take the family on holiday, and check through his finances to make sure their in order. If David can supply a meal it would be appreciated but please forward a menu first as, well, we wouldn't like him to something else wrong again.
Phil at 09:13:29 Tuesday September 30 2003
Tag at 19:26:49 Monday September 29 2003
The answer to your challenge is Terry Fenwick who was in charge for 7 games had 0 wins 1 draw and 6 defeats
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:07:06 Tuesday September 30 2003
Richard Hill does not have the credentials to be our next manager. After failing at Stevenage he was 'let go' by Gillingham in a cost cutting exercise - everyone is worth x to their employers and obviously Gillingham didnt think Hilly was worth whatever x was! Spin Spin Spin! Again, some people are giving him the benefit of the doubt because he happened to score 30plus goals for us in a season when we won the championship. Nice sentiments but lets get real. When he joined he was quoted by the media as saying that he had no interest in the managers job - and that he felt his skillset was more suited to being a number2. Lets also not forget that the spin put out by the club at the time (and TCMP) was that RH would be effectively running the first team anyway with Wilko overseeing things. And if we were to win the next 4 games and Hilly was incharge for all of them(Middlebill) - a pat on the back and a brucy bonus in his wage packet will be suffice thankyou very much! A CLEAROUT is needed and the new man must be allowed to bring in his own backroom staff. If we are to improve and sustain improvement.
pedant at 09:04:14 Tuesday September 30 2003
rwilks97 - you really ought to get an education. Your spelling is terrible.
United Front at 08:36:16 Tuesday September 30 2003
Everyone keeps telling us that Wilko has assembled one of the most talented squads in the clubs history, but despite this we still have confusion over the goalkeeping position, a lack of a midfield hardman (or a playmaker for that matter) and a 25 goal a season striker (Smith looks more of a support striker).
Rob Marshall at 08:25:52 Tuesday September 30 2003
Fanzine deadline date has been changed - it is now Tuesday 7th October (not 14th as previously published). Thanks.
rwilks97 at 06:19:56 Tuesday September 30 2003
Chickens have come home to rost then. not been on this board for a while because of the kind of childish nonsence being bandyed about people with a certain view. If some don't say it as directly - I will, some of us told you so!!! Good to c their were certain fans who were unlike me not put off by the snipping that goes on. stand up therealslimmartinw. U and people like u have done the club good by promoting discushion. I have followed the debate + all very sensibly if over pashionately put. The subject of win ratios was relevant + there are still questions needing asked about how this failed appointment happened after what happened with Fenwick. can only hop lessuns are learned so we dont have to test peoples loyalty again. The signs that things were their not right were there when John Frain left without any kind of pat on the back for his services. Dismissed too harshly it seems like other plyers who played last season. No wonder there seems to be unhappyness. There no dout that we have to try and find a man with the right background and keep an open mind.
WebmeisterGeneral at 05:45:00 Tuesday September 30 2003
Point of order, Middlebill. Time to leave it. U r sounding more and more like the childish brat who has lost the fight and cant take it. I read that post as meaning that we have to find the best man for the job, which makes total sense after our past problems and something TCMP seems to endorse now. It was never said that Hill wouldn't be considered. Just that he shouldnt automatically get it like happened last time. You are sounding bitter and more than a touch sad now.
Middlebill at 00:23:07 Tuesday September 30 2003
So to all you hero worshipers at the feet of the lauded TRSMW, yet another quote from the great man.............."It would be a big mistake to stick with the caretaker again even if we do win the first three or four games under Hilly"...............So there we have it. Even if Hill by some miracle managed to turn over both Lincoln and Rochdale on their own patch, despatched Scunthorpe at home without any trouble AND beat the mighty Hull City, Hill still wouldn't be worthy of consideration. There's speaks a fair man. Of course, I don't want Hill to get the job either. We must enrol the services of somebody TRSMW endorses, otherwise we'll have to go through the whole bloody saga again. Give me strength!
Old NTFC at 00:05:04 Tuesday September 30 2003
Danny Monday 10 23 Why get rid of Dennis Casey? This bloke has been loyal for years and does a great job, unless you know otherwise. You really are a dickhead.
Anon at 23:56:12 Monday September 29 2003
Oh and ignore the carpers trsmw - you are one of the few who talk sense on here and preach a consistent message.
Anon at 23:28:16 Monday September 29 2003
Does anyone know whether its possible to get a refund on a season ticket. I've really had enough of abject peformances. I'm sorry. I realise the buck stops with Wilkinson and on the evidence so far he had to go, but the players bear some responsibility as well. Everyone seems to think that the current squad is full of talent, but frankly that has still to be proven. In any event the lack of fight and determination I have witnessed thus far this season (and largely over the past few) irrespective of the tactics employed by the management make me determined that if I can help it I won't contribute to what are no doubt salaries that have been vastly inflated beyond their true worth.
Cheshire Cobbler at 22:17:00 Monday September 29 2003
A new begining AGAIN !!!!!!
RUBBER DUCK at 22:07:03 Monday September 29 2003
I would like to be the next manager john fashanu as no2
Anon at 22:05:53 Monday September 29 2003
TRSMW - Yawn, Yawn, Yawn your so interesting!
Anon at 22:04:45 Monday September 29 2003
no
Anon at 22:00:05 Monday September 29 2003
SAMMO TO GET MANAGERS JOB WITH RAZOR AS HIS ASSISTANT
Anon at 21:32:55 Monday September 29 2003
window doesnt apply to clubs outside prem
9224 at 21:32:07 Monday September 29 2003
I agree that Hargreaves, Gabbiadini and Forrester was the most exciting set of signings we've made - and I thought we'd get Daryl Clare too. Reidy, however, came close.
9224 at 21:29:27 Monday September 29 2003
Can I just add, in response to the realslimmartinw, that stats still prove nothing ON THEIR OWN and we need to look at the bigger picture? The last two clubs that Kinnear managed are both in administration, and, if he was so great, why has Mike Newell remained at Luton and Kinnear not reinstated? I accept that he did a stunning job at Wimbledon, but do we want to be where they are five years from now? Also it was Fenwick who released Forrester, not Wilkinson - let's clear that up now.
9224 at 21:23:53 Monday September 29 2003
I still personally believe that MW would have turned it around, and that we really needed some stability but I did say at the start of the season that if I was wrong I would hold my hands up and admit it - so here I am. I do hope that those who predicted doom and gloom don't feel the need to gloat - not from a personal point of view but rather hoping that they don't actually feel proud of themselves. What sort of supporter revels in his own team's misfortune? A big NO to Joe Kinnear, who has left a trail of destruction behind him, and to John Gregory, who does seem, from what I've read, to be quite a shady character. A 'name' is needed at this stage, an unknown would be too big a risk.
therealslimmartinw at 21:23:48 Monday September 29 2003
Anon, i cant be a peacock. I ruffle other people's feathers because I have none of my own. But seriously, if I went on and on about Wilko it is because i felt it was too big an issue to leave up in the air. Sorry if that bored you but some things are more important than the feelings of certain fans and if I am asked to justify what I believe I will always rise to the challenge and defend myself. What others think is up to them.
therealslimmartinw at 21:16:26 Monday September 29 2003
Very interesting posts. One thing strikes me. Hill and Wilkinson are right. We need a goalscorer. Sadly that is a bloody big problem now the transfer window is closed. And it leads me to say that when we appoint a successor to Wilko, we may have to accept that we are not going to necessarily get promotion this season, and perhaps look to next season. A new broom will not be able to create the side in his own image until the transfer window opens, next year. That leaves us in difficulty, unless we can get a decent Prem striker on loan. When Willo took over everyone knew we had a top striker for the Third in Jamie Forrester who with Steve Howard tore the Third Division defences apart. There are some who may think this will sound odd coming from me, but there is every reason to think that this time we have to get it right and that time must be given to whoever takes over to get it right. As long as we don't appoint Kermit again, that is. We also lack an inventive midfield player. I also think we lack experience. Oxford had some old hands on Saturday and they may have been a bit short of pace but had all the tricks and the moves. We didn't. We looked like a rookie team. 13 odd new players always sounds good for a club not use to that. Great excitement for fans. But the most excitement I ever had was when we signed Forrester, Gabby and Hargreaves, who I think were excellent signings for us in the Third. How we get over having been left with no goalscorer is difficult. Maybe Josh Lowe can play up front. Lets hope Smitty comes back. Dudfield, was never going to get you the goals you needed. Suffice to say we need a manager with a decent record, a decent striker, a ball playing creative midfielder (not clogger) and Keith Welch back. Yes, get Keith Welchback. Good enough for England, he was in his prime for us. And better than anything we have got. Joe Kinnear, the former Luton boss has to be the favourite to take over in my book. The guy took Wimbledon and turned them into a Prem outfit with 130 victories and 109 draws in 364 games in charge. He has oodles of respect, except at Luton. Although god knows how he would get on with our commercial manager, who tried to oust him.I would love to see Lou Macari make a comeback for pure romantic reason with us from the names i have seen. He was the Scot's equivalent of Kevin Keegan and would add some drive. John Gregory may well have the tactical nouse that we need and while he may have problems with motivating players, he would command respect at our level and has to be a major consideration. Another former Villa man, Brian Little is in the same mould, except more laid back now, but the problem is if he was fired by Hull, is he good enough for us. But then his record with them wasnt that bad and once again he has a name in the game. John Aldridge is another one of those managers who would be great for big games but how muchdoes he know about defending. Nevertheless can you imagine what the football would be like? Got a great record and how good it would be to see him as boss. I like the idea of Steve Cotterill, simply because he has done it at this level and knows the players we can realistically bring in. He has to be a definite option, if the others werent in the frey. His teams are very physical and it would be a bit like having Ian Atkins mark 2. If we go for a big name, someone like Roy Evans, would be a good choice except one wonders why he has been out of the game for so long. Gerry Francis seems to be on a downward spiral and might be a mistake. But his namesake Trevor Francis, would be a major coup if he was interested. George Graham wouldn't touch us with a barge pole, but it it would be great if he did. Joe Jordan, out of the game for six years but a decent record with Bristol C, Stoke and Hearts winning 136 oout of 329 games with 84 draws, I think could be a great choice if he still has his eye in at this level. Howard Kendall, also, is a real possibility having been out of action for five years and might relish a new chance. Bruce Rioch, has got all the credentials as has Graham Rix, who would be a real coup. And Walter Smith is worth considering, big name again who was hard done to at Everton when they became a selling club. Moyes has benefitted. Graham Taylor, Howard Wilkinson, Glenn Hoddle and Terry Venables, all former England managers all looking for a job, but being realistic we would never get them. But as for Gianluca Vialli. Sacked by Watford in the First, he wont get the Tottenham job, he is still based in this country, but it may be he would say, Northampton what? Nevertheless its worth dreaming.
Anon at 20:59:27 Monday September 29 2003
The point about slim Tag is that he went on and on and on about MW. If he is siting in front of his PC like the proverbial peacock he is even sadder than most of us.
Anon at 20:59:07 Monday September 29 2003
is the official site down now as well?
Anon at 20:46:22 Monday September 29 2003
ahem
Spy at 19:50:37 Monday September 29 2003
From the Rushden Message board....
Message posted on 29 September 2003 at 16:36
There is no point with sticking with a manager if he is useless, and Wilkinson certainly was (just look as his previous record!). A club with Northampton's money should be able to attract a decent coach though, either Kinear or Cotteril sound like people who are capable of taking the Wobblers into Div 2 and beyond. Be a bit annoying for us if they attract people of that caliber though, lets hope they bring in someone useless!
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Rushden through and through
Tag at 19:26:49 Monday September 29 2003
Sorry forgot this one too from slimartinw, same time WILKO - CANDIDATE FOR THE WORST MANAGEMENT RECORD IN THE LEAGUE AND IN COBBLERS HISTORY: Okay the Championship Manager thing was a bit of flippant nonsense. The facts speak for themselves. I am finding it hard to find a manager who has a worse record than he has with a win ration of one in four. Broadhurst, Kevin Wilson bloody hell even Glenn Roeder has a better record. Wilko has managed 22 wins in 88 games as manager of Northampton, Carlisle and Peterborough with 111 lost and 78 drawn. Even Broads managed a one in three win ratio with 26 wins in 77 games with 37 losses and 14 draws. Kevin Wilson, remember him, he managed a victory in every two and a half games with 42 wins in 102 games with 41 losses and 19 draws. F.. me even Glenn Roeder, who my Watford mate says is the worst manager in the world (granted a bit of vitriolic bias there) managed a win in just under three-and-a-half games with 81 victories in 270 games in charge of West Ham, Watford and Gillingham. God forbid that he could have a worse record than the dreaded John Barnwell, but blow me if he does. Even during those dark days with Northampton in 1993 and 1994 he was managing one win in three. Indeed it he only did slightly better for the whole of his career of 318 games where he notched up 111 wins. Still miles better than Wilko. Phil Chard, must have a worse record. MUST DO. I mean all that lucky to be in the league stuff, must mean he has a worse record. Eh, not necessarily. There is not much between them although Chard edges it on the wins ratio again. Just under one win in four with 14 wins in 54 games in charge of the Cobblers. That's not really a recommendation, though, is it. I accept we have to support the new team, but I am sorry, how on earth did Wilko manage to get the job with these credentials. If Wilko is reckoned to be THE MAN the Broads is the Second Coming. That's NEITHER serious NOR a recommendation. Can someone tell me who has a worse record.. there's a challenge. Because for the moment Mr Wilkinson is going to have to learn a new habit if he is to turn things around at Sixfields... winning.
kev at 19:23:56 Monday September 29 2003
well must say whetha any1 agrees wiv me or not you cannot fault MW on his committment and dedication to the club. the man worked tirelessly throughout the summer and dint take a br8k like he may have done. He so wanted to make something special of OUR club and for that i am forever grateful. However this said i don't disagree with his departure and i don't think MW himself will when he reflects on the situation. Sadly i feel he was just to far out of his league and it wasn't pleasant to see. Nobody can seriously say he dint try or wasn't doing his best, but im affraid it just wasn't good enough.
Good luck martin you were a true gent and just wish it couldve worked out better for you!!!
Up the Cobblers
Sid at 19:23:50 Monday September 29 2003
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Tag at 19:23:04 Monday September 29 2003
Zeb, if ur talkin prophetic, look at therealslim martinw(notwilko) at 23:01:34 Sunday April 13 2003 which started the ball rolling. Scarily spot on. THE WILKINSON CV: Player: brief and uninspiring spell playing for Barnsley. Management career history 88 games, 22 won, 42
defeats, 24 draws. Peterborough United (manager from 29-6-82 to 1-02-83) 26 games, 9 won, 8 lost, 9 drawn; Carlisle (manager
25-6-1999 to 10-5-2000) 52 games, 11 wins, 28 defeats and 13 draws. Northampton (from 24-2-2003) 10 games, 2 wins, 6 defeats
and 2 draws. Referees comments: Jeff Thorpe, former Carlisle player last heard of in Australia: "Possibly the weakest manager
i played under was Martin Wilkinson. He was a good man and was thrown into a difficult situation and i admire him for giving
everything to help the club, but he failed to get the respect of a lot of the players and some players took full advantage of
the situation which didn't help the club's predicament." Stalwart fan: The fans never really took to him because they could
never really relate to him. He did not take criticism well, often engaging in arguments with fans rather than walking away.
On the field, performances were terrible. United never rose higher than 3rd from bottom since the third month of the season
and were everyones tip for the drop to the Vauxhall Conference. Carlisle had to travel to Brighton on the last day of the
season knowing that anything less than victory, if results went against us, was relegation. The performance was woeful, and,
in all honesty typified Wilkinson's team. Lacking in passion and tactical awareness, they lost, and were saved from
relegation thanks to the failure of Chester City to win their game. Within 48 hours it became clear that Wilkinson had been
released and that United were yet again in the hunt for a manager. It's fair to say he is not missed by too many United
fans." Glass Pyramid, Carlisle United fanzine (2001): "The sixth question in the survey asked: "Ian Atkins - stay or go?" The
overwhelming reply here was "stay". WRONG. Still, it could have been Martin Wilkinson." Another Carlisle fan: "Frankly
Carlisle's performance at Boothferry Park was about as bad as it gets- real Martin Wilkinson horror stuff." CHAMPIONSHIP
MANAGER: Name - Martin Wilkinson, Position - manager, team - Carlisle, reputation - very poor.
minky lart burger at 19:22:11 Monday September 29 2003
Wilkinson oh oh oh oh he was a good man oh oh oh oh...............i know you
A Childs View at 19:20:56 Monday September 29 2003
Compaign - what's happening to me? The product of a Duston Upper School education sadly!
zebedee at 19:19:57 Monday September 29 2003
My words from 02:51:04 Monday September 29 2003 were prophetic. i take the credit. the mp definitely looks daft now.
A Childs View at 19:18:31 Monday September 29 2003
I'm even more convinced now and will be starting a Drilling Cobbler for manager compaign as soon as I have a spare moment!! I concur with that line up apart from I'd have Burgess instead of Lincoln on the the bench - hence the 99% agreement!! What a relief it is, I can start being optimistic about weekends and willing my team to win now rather than thinking that every small success would prolong the reign of a man who couldn't ultimately succeed with us. My Dad's gonna be delighted but is on holiday at the moment, a welcome bit of news for him when gets back!!
Puzzled Dan at 19:17:02 Monday September 29 2003
Great news. Welcome 2 a new world. Nice 1 slim u showed em. Should b on the bloody board has more common sense than the lot of em. Ted take the bizkit. He does nothing 2 promote change in the club does nothing but moan at those who got it completely right backs a nohoper but is willing to boss is mouff off about the Chron's coverage. How about caring about the club instead of an irrelevant paper that never really never rocks the boat regarding the cobblers ever. therealslimmartinw at 08:30:50 Monday September 29 2003, nlightning post bout jobless managers available, maybe should go 2 the board before they decide. sum good names in there. think we should go 4 name this time. John Aldridge, John Barnes, Kenny Dalglish, Glenn Hoddle Roy Evans, Trevor Francis, Gerry Francis, George Graham, Joe Jordan, Howard Kendall, Joe Kinnear,Brian Little, Bruce Rioch, Bryan Robson, Walter Smith, Graham Taylor Howard Wilkinson, Terry Venables and Vialli would all do nicely.
MK Cobbler at 19:12:23 Monday September 29 2003
Now that the decision has been made, like many I would like the board to advertise, interview and take their time. I think a "name" is a must rather than go the Colchester route and appoint an unknown (successfully so to their great credit but too much of a gamble with a doubting Northmapton public). My own choice would be between Iain Dowie or Steve Cotterill but I reckon both may be on the short list for Reading. No to John Gregory, he did nothing special at Wycombe and, as someone noted over the weekend, he is subject to investigation by the FA. Outsider could be Tony Adams but no management experience.
Anon at 19:09:01 Monday September 29 2003
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Tag at 19:05:04 Monday September 29 2003
Have to say that I am not mourning the loss of Wilkinson because he had more than passed his sell by date. Am quite angry that this was not done sooner and slimmartin has every right to say told you so. I would be gloating. Not sad. Celebratory actually. Boycotted the oxford game coz I was just fed up. The result woz predictable. I do hope that the MP apologises for his remarks at people like slimmartin myself and others who were just saying it as we saw it and happen to have been proved right. Can I remind TCMP what he said in July 30: "Those who make play of MW previous stats should throw the stats book out the window before the new season starts
as I believe it will change dramatically. I am taking a short break so wont be posting for a few days but the smile on my
face is broad and as everyone else I cannot wait for the new season." In May he said: "Next year i believe it will be us and Mansfield together with one of the play off contenders from this years div 3 who will be contesting top spot." Slightly embarrassing but even if slimmartin won't name names, I will. How can TCMP have the brass neck to come on here after saying that. I hope he and all the directors have learns sum lessons from this debacle. Agree with all thatz said bout seeking applications. Should have been done in first place.
Ted at 19:04:15 Monday September 29 2003
So Wilko's gone,and once again the hottest seat in Football becomes vacant.The front page of the Chron shows a rather sad Wilko and,soft bugger that I am ,I do feel quite sorry for the guy.Whilst on the subject of the Chron,I have just sent my e-mail to voice my disgust of their coverage of the Dons or whatever they are called.This is one issue that all true Football fans should unite in.If you haven't yet e-mailed do it!
The Drilling Cobbler at 18:42:07 Monday September 29 2003
ACV - My application is on its way to sixfields! I've put you down as one of my referrees! (Dont worry, job for the boys coming your way if i'm successful). If I'm in-charge intime for tomorrow nights game I will play a back4 of Reid,Wilmott,Chambers and Carruthers. A midfield of Lowe (right), Harsley, Trollope, and Hargrieves(left) with Richards and Youngs upfront. Goalkeeper - Thompson. Subs - Harper, Sammo, Asamoah, Dudds and Lincoln. Lincoln are a strong physical team who concede very few and score very few. The 'up and under' approach with them will not work, they will clearly beat us if we try to match their tactics. Having said that, early doors we must earn the right to play hence it is imperative that Hargrieves, Trollope and Harsley in particular make their presences known and 'put a collective foot in'. Take control of the midfield and the points could well be coming back to Sixfields. Allow them to dominate in that area and to stop us playing football and its game over for us. Its pointless going their with 3 centrebacks (with reference toDoig playing as well on Sat), their strenghts as a team are when they are without the ball, not when they are with it. Our back4 should be able to cope admirably providing the midfield do their job. Richards can use his physical strength to provide openings for Youngs, his more skillful partner.
Seriously its that easy - attack as a team and defend as a team. Hargrieves, Trollope - when you pass the ball forward take up a more attacking position to potentially receive the return pass rather than just standing still and watching!
And if they dont do what they are told they will know very quickly. After all theres two ways of looking at it so far this season - if they were doing as they were told Wilkos tactics were inept, alternatively they were ignoring him and doing their own thing. Either way, under the Drilling Cobbler they wouldnt have the option!
I will not divulge any more of my gameplan because Lincoln might be listening/reading - whooopppss that was another of Wilkos failings....
Dave2 at 17:24:20 Monday September 29 2003
It is encouraging to read TCMP's in latest posting that the fans views, and in particular the need to do a proper trawl of the market are being taken note of in the boardroom. The Cardozas have shown their intent to take the club forward and if their objectives are to be met we simply must find someone with a proven track record. Success on the pitch is the key to everything else - growing support and stadium expansion in particular.
Anon at 16:53:06 Monday September 29 2003
richard johnson(remember him?)been freed by watford
Anon at 16:42:16 Monday September 29 2003
Glenn Hoddle's free
Anon at 16:41:56 Monday September 29 2003
Let's just hope it's not Trevor Francis, Bryan Robson, Chris Waddle or Glenn Hoddle. The first two have applied for the Reading job and I cannot think of two bigger managerial losers.
Anon at 16:41:19 Monday September 29 2003
Come on then real slim why dont you start telling us what Richard Hills manegerial stats are.
Whytewell Cobbler at 16:28:44 Monday September 29 2003
Granted that Fenwick was an absolute catastrophe, but you surely can't put Wilko in the same bracket, TRSM? Surely Tony Clarke is absolutely right about the potential of the squad that MW has assembled, even if, for whatever reason, he has failed to deploy them to maximum effect. A good selection from the many candidates suggested by posters is obviously vital, but I absolutely guarantee that, whoever it is, there will be some moaners. who will blast the decision as soon as it is made. This will be (yet another, I agree) time for us to be positive and roar the team back up the table where they belong.
Anon at 16:27:27 Monday September 29 2003
Middlebill - you're a f@#*ing wanker.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz at 16:05:39 Monday September 29 2003
long postings who reads them, just make the point
therealslimmartinw at 15:47:14 Monday September 29 2003
Good to see that LH and I agree on something. But in truth it is common sense to put the job out to everyone that may be interested and picking the best candidate and I cannot see it wont happen. Good to hear from TCMP that the comments about picking the best man for the job are taken on board. It would be a big mistake to stick with the caretaker again even if we do win the first three or four games under Hilly. We have to have transparency this time and the board have to be seen to be acting like any other board would in finding a replacement. And the list of possible candidates should whet anyone's appetite. And nobody is sitting waiting to criticise. They cannot get it as drastically wrong as they did with Wilko who may be a half decent scout but nothing else. I don't think that he has endeared himself with his slagging off of certain players, Hoddle style. But it was all so predictable. And if i have been tedious its because stating the bleeding obvious is tedious. It's taken since April, when i first questioned this for the bleeding obvious to actually happen. Again, I have to say certain members of the board have to ask themselves serious questions. People who were there when Fenwick was appointed and then Wilkinson. Those are two of the most disastrous appointments any club has made ever. Saying that you need continuity, is like saying a drink of water when you have been without for two weeks is very important. Of course you need it. But not continuity involving a manager who cannot manage. It's sad that some of us at Oxford were actually wanting an Atkins side to score more goals, as they clearly could have. That's not disloyalty, as child'sview says. It's knowing when something is broken and needing fixed. I for one am very excited about the future now. Because we now have a chance to turn things around. All I would personally ask is that we pick someone with a strong reputation, if we can afford it. There are loads of possibilities lets grasp them. It's time for the comeback.
PATTCOBB at 15:32:31 Monday September 29 2003
Would the Honorary Gentleman ( If he gets time off from jeering our Tony! - another man on the brink????) agree that we are now big players and that we need a big name manager as much as anything as a publicity exercise.
New Manager at 15:26:24 Monday September 29 2003
Big Dave - Egg and Bacon Tie!!!
New Manager? at 15:25:56 Monday September 29 2003
Gedgie Old Straford Video Cobbler
New Manager at 15:25:25 Monday September 29 2003
John Atkinson aka Junk Shop Man
Nosey Parker at 15:14:26 Monday September 29 2003
WELL DONE CHRONICLE AND ECHO FOR REPORTING ON THE NEW AND BEST TEAM WIMBLEDON FC. . .BEST PAPER IN THE MIDLANDS.
AS FOR THIS PILE OF SHIT. .. LOL NICE RESULT v OXFORD!!
Nosey Parker at 15:14:21 Monday September 29 2003
WELL DONE CHRONICLE AND ECHO FOR REPORTING ON THE NEW AND BEST TEAM WIMBLEDON FC. . .BEST PAPER IN THE MIDLANDS.
AS FOR THIS PILE OF SHIT. .. LOL NICE RESULT v OXFORD!!
Mike@lloydloom.com at 15:13:09 Monday September 29 2003
I don't know whether Martin W was a good manager or not, but I'm bloody certain that sacking 3 managers in less than 12 months is totallly mad.
Alex Ferguson took 7 years to win something - where would Man U be if Martin Edwards had followed the cobblers guide to good management? Lose to a top of the table team and instant dismissal happens.
To the idiots who demanded Wilkinson's dismissal - a simple question? Do you want every manager dismissed from now on who loses a game? Should new managers form an orderly queue around the west stand so that they can be ushered into the job at the end of the 90 minutes?
There has been a long tradition dating back to George Reilly, Paul StrrStratford etc of booing and jeering. Personally, I wish that people who appear to get their kicks from destructive jeering to go and give their money to someone else.
Watching the wobblers has always been a long suffering affair, without the morons who appear to demand instant success!
TCMP at 15:10:52 Monday September 29 2003
Bazza, I may be "Busy in Bournemouth" but I am never too busy for "Feedback from the fanbase". First of all thank you for your comments over the weekend. You now know that we had a difficult decision to make, releaving any manager of his duties is never a pleasant business, and despite the criticism and his current difficulties Martin Wilkinson is an individual who I have a lot of respect for. He is also a well respected member of the football family and I am sure he will find other work in the game. The comments of fans over the weekend was very useful to me as whilst I may have a personal opinion, my job is to be representative of the veiws of the supporter base and our club is all the stronger for it. The board are also listening to comments about getting any new appointment right, and whilst I will allow the club to make the announcements in their own time you can rest assured that the points made regarding the process of finding a replacement are being fully taken on board. We will go into tommorrow's game without an appointed first team manager, but Richard and Mark will I know put in their best efforts and I am sure we can rely on the fans at the game to give the team the backing they will need. We are mid table now and the task of the team and RH is to make sure that we do not slip behind the pace in the time it takes us to fill the position permanently. My appearences on the board this week will be subject to me being able to find the time but I will check back when I can. One interesting point to take on baord is that I believe that at the club we have the nucleus of a promotion winning side. that side was in the main put together by Martin Wilkinson, It has not worked out for him as manager and he will be bitterly dissapointed. But when we turn the corner as I am sure we will, I hope we spare a thought for his contribution. See you soon Tony
Anon at 14:44:33 Monday September 29 2003
Take your pick from Hill, Kearney, Blyth etc
Anon at 14:28:42 Monday September 29 2003
Grim Reaper - don't go away just yet - there is still a bit more work to be done
Dave at 14:12:28 Monday September 29 2003
If we want to avoid a repetition of this sorry affair we had better not give Richard Hill the job permanently or we'll just be doing the same thing this time next season. Advertise the job, take advice, appoint the right man, have a clean sweep of all the backroom staff.
Whytewell Cobbler at 14:10:34 Monday September 29 2003
Agree it was sad but inevitable. No doubt the Reaper and numerous others are bracing themselves to disagree violently and abusively no matter who the Cardozas choose. How right all those are who beg them to take their time, advertise, and make a considered choice. Personally, I couldn't care less if the new man is a 'name' or not. I think we've got - or very nearly got - the players who can take us back up. If that's right then the new man has to be able to do two things - to motivate the players, and to organise them in a way that allows their very real talents full reign. Whoever it turns out to be, I'll certainly be willing him and the team to pick this season up and launch it firmly in the direction we all hoped it would follow from the beginning.
Middlebill at 14:00:31 Monday September 29 2003
BRIXWORTH COBBLER: I used to come on this board under another name which would indentify me to anyone who knows me. I came in for a fair bit of stick, pretty much like everybody else. However amongst the usual tirade, somebody took the opportunity to take a personal dig at me, something well below the belt and something they would never have the guts to say to my face in a million years. It was then that I decided to go under the name of middlebill. My middle name is Bill. There you go Brixworth Cobbler, now you know everything. Not how about getting off my case!
Sean at 13:58:03 Monday September 29 2003
Anyone travelling by car from London to Lincoln tomorrow and can offer a lift? Obviously will pay towards expenses.
Can't go by train - last one back is 9pm
PATTCOBB at 13:57:27 Monday September 29 2003
Well I've had to come out of retirement to say thanks to the Cardozas for further convincing me that this club is destined for big things. This is no lower league game where the little people and their cronies have a say in the running of the club, No way this is a big business enterprise with a big plan for a big future, no small time charlie with little skill will be accepted. Anybody who doesn't fit the bill will be discarded - suggest some of the players may also fall by the wayside too. It needs a big name if the five year plan is to be realised, it needs a name that any undecided new signing will say " Hang on so and so is manager there I'd love to work with him"
I believe the choice is between three men Joe Kinnear, Steve Cotterill or John Gregory. Gregory and Hill back together as at Wycombe and as famous ex players... it's got a certain appeal has it not?
I am going to Lincoln tomorrow and am now looking forward to the game rather than 90 mins of " Wlko out " chants.
I feel a sense of relief today the future is very bright..... its claret!
LH at 13:55:20 Monday September 29 2003
Child's view , Good post . well said (written).
A Childs View at 13:55:01 Monday September 29 2003
I forgot to mention - I suggest we make Drilling Cobbler manager, he only ever talks sense on here and I find myself agreeing with 99% of what he says!!!!! Further point then back to work - a lot of you owe Real Slim a big apology for sticking to his guns and being proved right. I'd also urge some contributors to think about what supporting the club really means - it isn't necessarily unconditional support, I supported the future of the club by shouting Wilko out on Saturday AND applauding and encouraging every Cobblers player whenever they were within earshot. Loyalty doesn't have to be blind, we are entitled to our views and influence.
A Childs View at 13:51:29 Monday September 29 2003
Well done Mr Cardoza - the right choice. Wilko - no hard feelings, it simply wasn't right. I'm convinced you'd have loved to be successful but it wasn't to be - that's how it goes. You clearly care so are welcome back at Sixfields anytime and I'll give you a clap. Right, moving on, advertise the job and get the best person in. Wait a while if we have too - let's get this one right!!! I'm praying we make a good choice. The new chap, whoever he may be, gets my 100% backing provided we can see progress and sensible management. I don't care whether we go up or not, that's no longer the objective this season, I'm more concerned about stability, continuity, building up the club, seeing some passion and some good football at the weekends. The next chapter at Sixfields is about to be begin.............
Middlebill at 13:50:01 Monday September 29 2003
RSMWL doesn't like it when you poke holes in his argument.
The Drilling Cobbler at 13:46:44 Monday September 29 2003
So the inevitable has happened - hands up those who said he would be a success!!!! Hands up to those who decided to give him a chance on the basis that the Cordoza's had bailed us out bigtime whilst at the sametime knowing that his managerial record was 'suspect' to say the least! I suspect that most of us fall into the latter of the two, but surmise to say that almost everyone has sadly been proven right. I feel very sorry for Wilko but he simply wasnt and never would have been cut out for the job. He almost said it himself when he was caretaking the side. I sincerely hope though that another role is found for him, maybe director of football or something. He is a smashing bloke but always came accross to me as a 'yes man'. What I cannot understand is how 2 such successful business men could not have seen his obvious failings. Anyway, enough from me on the matter of Wilko - we move on. Let us all hope and prayer that the next permanent manager of NTFC is someone with a good track record and who trys to get his teams playing decent football. Someone is might be able to tempt and influence the signing of a certain ex striker who happens to be plying his trade about 30miles south. Oh, and who still lives in the town.....
Anon at 13:46:13 Monday September 29 2003
Did I read that right? rsmw calling someone tiresome!
Anon at 13:44:58 Monday September 29 2003
I hear Sven might be available soon...
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Dyl at 13:39:19 Monday September 29 2003
It's official
therealslimmartinw at 13:36:28 Monday September 29 2003
There is no joy in Wilko's departure, no jubiliation. Just a relief that it is finally come to an end. But it should never have started and directors like TCMP should look at themselves having dissed those like myself who were stating the bleeding obvious, that Wilkinson was not the man fo rthe job. Lets hope that this time we advertise the post and tout for talent instead of plumping for a no hoper. I have posted a list of managers available, for the benefit of the increasingly tiresome Middlebill , not a reflection of who should or should not get the job. I dare say that John Barnes with his name alone will do a better job than Wilko ever could. Lets learn from the costly misakes we have made with Fenwick and now Wilkinson and let's now think, onward and upward.
Anon at 13:35:10 Monday September 29 2003
Wilko has been sacked according to Five Live - good to see our own 'official' website is up to date!
Hotel Ender at 13:26:33 Monday September 29 2003
fao Ralph2 - be happy to take up your offer mate, want to call me tonight? I'll be in after 10.
Bazza at 13:23:45 Monday September 29 2003
LH, I think TCMP may be 'Busy of Bournemouth' this week.
Boycott The Chron at 13:23:05 Monday September 29 2003
Thanks ray, i am now going to e-mail the chron my thoughts. I hope other cobblers fans will follow suit as i belive this is a serious issue which could harm the club. Please take time out from the issue of wilkos sacking and lets put a stop to Franchise FC reporting in OUR local paper
Danny at 13:20:59 Monday September 29 2003
Good decision by the board. Wilko knows a good player when he sees one but hasn't got the know how to gel them into a team. I too remember Hill didn't want the managers job, but then nor did Wilkinson!!!! Cotterill has made one mistake and that was going to Sunderland as assistant, if he went for the job he'd be my choice. He has experience at this level, is well respected throughout the game and IMHO would be the best choice. Hopefully he'll go for it. Failing that we should try and tempt Iain Dowie from Oldham. Joe Kinnear - maybe. I don't think the Cardoza's would let him ruin us with high wage demands for himself and players like he did at Luton. Whoever it is, he's GOT to come from outside the club. Best get some money from the Cash Point for tomorrow night lol.
Brixworth Cobbler at 13:17:52 Monday September 29 2003
Go on then Middlebill, get on Radio Diamonds, sorry Northampton. Let's all listen to the man with the funny name!
Bazza at 13:16:59 Monday September 29 2003
Is anyone with any pedigree going to be interested in managing us? It's not the most secure job in football is it? It seems very sudden, I wonder if there's a "Fenwick" lined up.
LH at 13:16:09 Monday September 29 2003
Well ,after such a poor showing at Oxford seems the inevitable has happened. TCMP if your taking on board opinions then PLEASE this time
ask the Club to advertise and lets interview for the Job. Even if Joe Kinnear is being lined up interview him along with other candidates,
you never know who is interested . Let Hilly apply if he wants , but lets take our time & find a new Manager that we can look forward to
being with for a number of years , therefore bringing stability !
Ray at 13:15:17 Monday September 29 2003
Managing Editor at the Chron is Mark Edwards - email address mark.edwards@northantsnews.co.uk Managing Director is Chris Pennock - email address chris.pennock@northantsnews.co.uk Circulation Manager is Steve Miles - email address steve.miles@northantsnews.co.uk
A relieved Cobbler at 13:09:19 Monday September 29 2003
Now that Wilkinson doesn't have an office would he now like to do some home visits to Cobblers fans and explain some of his more curious decisions to us? I don't like to see people lose their jobs in any walk of life but the man was way out of his depth.
Middlebill at 13:08:29 Monday September 29 2003
Here's your chance to have a go at Radio Northampton. They are asking fans to ring up NOW about the Wilko sacking. Time for some home truths methinks!
United Front at 13:08:15 Monday September 29 2003
Can anyone else remember Richard Hill saying that he didn't want to be a manager when he came to the club last season, just coach? This is an ideal chance to appoint a manager with a proven track record and start planning for the future, my choice (for what its worth) would be Cotterill, although he is probably looking at higher division clubs. Dowie is also a good shout, don't know about Kinnear though.
DEK at 13:07:17 Monday September 29 2003
Well Done the board for taking the right decision. Now PLEASE, PLEASE,PLEASE do the right thing now and either advertise the job or offer it to a quality proven manager. In the very least get someone who will excite the players and supporters. Richard Hill doesn't seem to be the man for the job. Cotterill would be my first choice as he has done it with Cheltenham and has the top UEFA coaching badge which shows he is doing things the right way.
A relieved Cobbler at 13:05:35 Monday September 29 2003
Thank God for that.
Boycott The Chron at 13:03:29 Monday September 29 2003
All Cobblers Fans shuld boycott the Chronicle and echo!!! This is a local Northampton paper so what the hell are they doing match reveiws on wimbeldon for. Wimbeldon moving to MK is going to have a negative efect on the cobblers and the town of northampton so why oh why is the chron trying to promote wimbeldon playing in MK, I ask every true Northampton fan, every True Football fan to boycot the paper NOW. Im trying to find an e-mail address for the chron but cant find it on there site, if anyone knows it please post it on here so that we can all e-mail them and tell them what we think of there reporting of Sport thats not in the intrest of the town they serve
nsb at 13:02:38 Monday September 29 2003
cant say that im surprised about wilko losing his job.... i hope they do actually bother to interview some other managers rather thatn just hand the job to hilly as is what seemed to happen with wilko....
Anon at 12:59:32 Monday September 29 2003
How'd he work that out??? The only player left from the squad that contained Woody & Hunt is Sammo, but he didn't even play. Why would it wind up the rest of the players?
Badger at 12:52:51 Monday September 29 2003
Sorry.... What a Twit Wilco....WAS.......Come on hilly UP THE COBBLERS
Badger at 12:47:28 Monday September 29 2003
Cobblers did the talking - Atkins 28 Sep
Oxford United chief Ian Atkins thanked his opposite number, Martin Wilkinson, as the U's powered to a 3-0 home win over Northampton Town.
A Steve Basham double and one from Dean Whitehead meant the points were safe by half time at the Kassam Stadium and former Cobblers boss Atkins knew who he had to thank.
He said: "Martin did my team-talk for me.
"He said that with James Hunt and Andy Woodman as well as myself involved, his players would be automatically up for the game.
"All I had to do was show my lads what he had said, and that was it.
"They were really up for it and totally focused. I would just like to thank Martin for what he did, it helped us enormously."
....What a twit Wilco is.....I'm going on Tuesday and I expect Cobblers will loose…..but I hope not…..UP THE COBBS
Sid at 12:45:38 Monday September 29 2003
Errmmm..... Wilko has gone. Can't say I'm surprised...... LOL :-)
Wibble at 12:45:21 Monday September 29 2003
Hill gets a draw, narrow defeat, lucky win. Is given job fulltime, appoints Kearny as assistant. Performances improve as does position, finish in playoffs, lose in semi final. Hill starts well following season, but mid season hit with injuries, poor performances means he gets the boot, Kearny appointed caretaker. Gets a draw, narrow defeat and lucky win and is appointed fulltime. Arrrghhhh.
Anon at 12:39:49 Monday September 29 2003
Seems that Hill is in charge for the Lincoln game. Surprised that he and Kearney have not gone as well as they have been responsible for the coaching. It will be very interesting to see if there are any noticable changes in the style of play at Lincoln.
Middlebill at 12:38:10 Monday September 29 2003
It is now!
Anon at 12:36:19 Monday September 29 2003
or Wilko after Fenwick except after Broadhurst
Anon at 12:36:14 Monday September 29 2003
or Wilko after Fenwick except after Broadhurst
LH at 12:34:59 Monday September 29 2003
Bexxy , how do you know Wilko has gone ? Not on offal site.
Bexxy at 12:30:52 Monday September 29 2003
Sorry... i knew about the 'i before e' business...i was just trying to post it quick before anyone else did!! (Clearly i was still too late!!)
Anon at 12:29:10 Monday September 29 2003
comon Bexxy i before e except after c
Bexxy at 12:28:30 Monday September 29 2003
I musy say..this is all getting a bit boring... In the 5 years ive been watching The Cobblers, ive seen as many different managers!!
Bexxy at 12:26:28 Monday September 29 2003
WILKO HAS BEEN 'RELEIVED OF HIS DUTIES'... Hill in charge for Lincoln match..
Anon at 12:25:52 Monday September 29 2003
Club statement - Wilko has gone!
Anon at 12:17:45 Monday September 29 2003
We have the players - someone just needs to put a rocket up their backsides...
Brixworth Cobbler at 12:10:16 Monday September 29 2003
So the answer's no then Middlebill?
Another Anon at 12:07:06 Monday September 29 2003
I'm sick of reading Hill & Wilko stating that we need a striker who can score goals. What a load of crap. At the start of the season we had - "Ladies & Gentlemen, please welcome Marc Richards... Marc was signed from Blackburn on a free despite intrest from various other clubs. He spent the back end of last season at Swansea where he scored 7 goals in 14 games and was instumental in the survival of The Swans League status. He's got a great future and will score goals" - Total 0. "Ladies & Gentlemen, please welcome Martin Smith, Martin has scored goals wherever he's played, he's a prolific marksman who scored 17 goals for Huddersfield last season, he's one of the favourites to be top scorer in the third this." Total - 2 pens, one free kick. "Ladies & Gentlemen, please welcome Lawrie Dudfield - Lawrie is a striker who has a keen eye for goal. He's played for Kettering, Leicester and was a £350,000 signing for Hull" - Total 4 goals (hang on, the most successful) despite playing right wing!!! Don't give me that bull about needing more strikers, we have Asamoah, Morison, Youngs (48 in 127? for cambridge).... the list is endless. Play attacking football, get the ball into the box, let the strikers do what they're paid to do PLAY THEM UP FRONT!!!! Not on the wing, whats the point of a striker crossing it in if no-ones there?
Sid at 11:44:07 Monday September 29 2003
Asamoah may not be the answer, but I think all fans want is for him to be given a chance. He has appeared only a couple of times this season, not enough IMHO. Surely MW will be fearing his job, but honestly I would be surprised if he went this week.
Middlebill at 11:31:08 Monday September 29 2003
Brixcobb: Anon is everybody that doesn't put a name in the box. In other words, Anon is loads of different people and therefore you can never put him down for one view or another. Me, Middlebill is one person (ok sometimes its the imposters) but you do know who you are talking to. Surely you can see that?
Middlebill at 11:26:00 Monday September 29 2003
Brixcobb: You could have scrolled down but here it is again................As far as the current manager is concerned, I believed at the start of the season he should be given enough time to see for certain whether he was up to the job. I said "We should know by the end of September"................Well Brixcobb, one more game to go in September and to be honest, unless we win that one convincingly I can't see him being here on Saturday and NOR WOULD I WANT HIM TO BE! That ok?
Brixworth Cobbler at 11:19:56 Monday September 29 2003
My whole point Middlebill is that you are just another faceless poster on here the same as Anon, Drilling Cobbler,therealslimmartinw, myself and many more. I'm not advocating people posting their true identity, I was just trying to stop your hypocrisy (which you have in abundance). You identify yourself no more with the name Middlebill than Anon does with his/her name. Also could you please just answer yes or no to the question of if Martin Wilkinson should be replaced immediately? Please don't hide behind your " I just support whatever the Chairman decides" stance. For Gods sake man/woman, have an opinion.
Ade at 11:03:21 Monday September 29 2003
Stupid groundless rumours again
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:54:35 Monday September 29 2003
No manager will provide guaranteed success - however it would be nice if the new person (assuming of course there is going to be a new person) in charge has a record that at least gives us course for opptimism. Wilkos never did that - the only hope most of us had was that the players he brought in could achieve success regardless of who was in charge, considering that on paper they are better than most if not all other div3 teams. Obviously that hasnt been the case and they do need professional guidance afterall! Big Fat Joe is the man for me - the fact that he has followed us all over the country in recent weeks maybe suggests that he is also the leading candidate. Hopefully. Steve Cotteril would be great but he would more likely than most be tapped up by bigger clubs if he was to turn things around - we cannot afford another short-term appointment. There are many other names that spring to mind but most have mixed c.v.s and would be more of a gamble. Big Fat Joes Claret Army - please...
Whispers at 10:32:37 Monday September 29 2003
They are all in for an Emergency 10.00 meeting
Danny at 10:25:53 Monday September 29 2003
Martin Wilkinson has to go now. I was disheartened after Huddersfield but now after blowing another £40/£50 on another away day watching another abject, passionless, directionless, leaderless, gutless embaressment from Northampton Town I've come to the end. I've booked a days holiday tomorrow, I have a seat booked on the bus but if Wilko is still manager at 5 o'clock this evening then I'll be cancelling both as I just can't justify the cost and time off needed to travel to Lincoln to watch us out battled, out thought and out played by another bunch of Third Division donkeys. When the second goal went in Hill was sat looking as bored as we were, Wilko had his arms folded looking even more disinterested. The second half saw more of the same. No attempt to make changes, no attempt to lift the players, no attempt at encouragement, no attempt to try and claw back at least one goal. Was that how it was in the dressing room at half time aswell? Go now, the pair of you and take the court jesters Kearney, Blyth and Casey with you. Even the few people that support you on here cannot even bring themselves to put a name to their posts!!!!
A real dilema.... at 10:25:11 Monday September 29 2003
Quoting a managers past record at other clubs proves very little - when Atkins came to NTFC his management record was OK but not brilliant, likewise when other clubs have appointed managers with a good record elsewhere this does not always mean success for their new club. With the exception of a few managers such as Martin O'Neil very few bring anything like guaranteed success. Frankly appointing any manager is a lottery and its not until they have been in the job for 3 months or more that you can tell if they are likely to do well.
Many of us felt/hoped that the combination of Wilkinson and Hill would work but it hasn't and as each game is played it looks less likely to work. The big problem is finding someone who can get results and if the present management team is removed (and if Wilkinson goes I believe that Hill and Kearney should also go) then we could easily find that by December we are still playing badly. It really is a problem and the ideal solution would be for Wilkinson and the others to sort things out now and put together a long run of winning performances.
I feel for the Cardoza’s, they have pulled us back from the brink, enabled the signing of some very good players and planned for the growth of the club yet the very basics (success on the pitch) has eluded them. They will have to make some very difficult decisions over the next few weeks and will have to accept that it takes a lot more than pre season hype and spin to get promotion from Div 3. Also if a new management team is appointed can we find one that prefers not to turn good players into bad ones.
Matt Scott at 10:06:28 Monday September 29 2003
Fingers crossed that all those sleepless nights have forced certain people to make some decisions today
Paul at 09:56:54 Monday September 29 2003
I agree the club need stability, that was someting that was key are Fenwick. However, Wilko should never have been given the job, his CV just didn't add-up to the man for the Job. In fact, it wasn't like he did a good job as caretaker manager! I find that the most sad thing of all, even after all the mistakes or last season, the board made another one!
LH at 09:23:52 Monday September 29 2003
And while we are on the subject , I dont how Hilly can say the the
'Players need to grow up quick' and 'you cant buy experience' they bought the young players in the first place ! I dont think its a bad policy at all but Hilly should think a bit more about what he says.
LH at 09:14:57 Monday September 29 2003
Bad start , that was meant to be Wilko !
LH at 09:11:48 Monday September 29 2003
Wilo asked supporters to look at the big picture and ask if we are going forward . I think off the field the Club are making progress (thanks to TCMP for update) but on the field obviously something is not right at all. The recent performances and atmosphere reminds me of the end of the Wilson / Atkins days when you can see that all is not well.You can argue a case for a manager to be given time to turn things round if you can see that we are going forward but is difficult to defend the sudden spiral into abject performances. I would like to see him given more time to turn things round but after Oxford I dont have the confidence in his ability to do this. But change for change sake doesnt allways work , what if a new manager has poor results after 10-12 weeks and we are 16th ,offering crap performances like Saturday ,will people be calling for his sacking
as well. At some point the Club has to provide stability and I believed that giving Wilko time would eventually give us a stable platform to build on . I dont think I could defend that position any
more as we seem to be going backwards (literally)not forwards .
The Drilling Cobbler at 09:07:12 Monday September 29 2003
I agree with the arguments put forward for an entire clearout - maybe Dennis could be spared though? Clearly an injection of 13 new players has not had the desired effect, infact it has created almost the opposite and according to some has split the group of players into two - obviously not helped by Wilkos comments to the media and his decision to make them train seperately. I will be absolutely amazed if an announcement confirming the end to his reign isnt made by the end of the day - lets face it if it hasnt then we are stuck with him until at least this time next week. And longer if we somehow manage to beat Hull on Saturday! And so it will continue. I've been to all of the games this season apart from York which I couldnt make. I have my season ticket but I will not be travelling to any further away games until the management is changed. Fed up with wasting my time and money!
Middlebill at 08:57:11 Monday September 29 2003
Statitics. TherealslimmartinW puts forward the record of John Barnes who had 19 wins in 29 games at Celtic. Now if ever there was a statistic to prove what a waste of time statistics are, that the statistic. 19 wins out of 29 for either Celtic or Rangers is an absolute disaster. For crying out loud, they normally only drop points to each other!
Middlebill at 08:54:08 Monday September 29 2003
therealslimmartinw: Put your money where your mouth is. Take over the club and then you can decide who the manager is. Somebody has to make that decision, why the hell should it be you, as opposed to anybody else. And I'll tell you something else for nothing. If the Cardoza's go through the process of advertising the job, pick who they think is the best man, and you don't like him, or think he's got a "Poor track record", then you will start all over again. You just can't help yourself. The stupid thing is, if at every club from day 1 you said the manager should be sacked, in 99% of cases, you would be right, eventually!
Middlebill at 08:49:25 Monday September 29 2003
Brixcobb, I am very disappointed in you. The difference between putting your identity to a point of view rather than anon is so obvious. Heve you ever seen the nose on your face? The reason so many people can give me stick on here is that I identify myself. If I had made all my posts as ANON, how could anybody critisise me? Surely you can see that? Furthermore, as far as I am aware nobody puts down their actual name on here with the notable exception of Tony Clarke. Are you trying to tell me if I travel over to Brixworth, if that's where you live, I've only got to ask someone in the main street to point me in the direction of the Cobblers supporter I will be directed straight to you? Come on mate, your better than this rubbish.
therealslimmartinw at 08:47:27 Monday September 29 2003
Middlebill, Nobody has been all over Wilko after his first defeat. But with an important job as team manager you have to seen what talent is available and seek applications. We didn't. Hence we employed a man who cannot do the job. It is a crazy situation and must be rectified now. To say I will always support what decisions are made not matter what they are, sounds laudable in the land of makebelieve, but naive in the real world.
Middlebill at 08:41:46 Monday September 29 2003
Once more my friends I will state where I stand. Please pay attention this time as it is getting very boring repeating myself over and over again. Football is a game of opinions and everybody is entitled to theirs. It matters not one jot whether you go to the away matches, home matches, or sit at home, you are all entitled to an opinion. As far as the current manager is concerned, I believed at the start of the season he should be given enough time to see for certain whether he was up to the job. I said "We should know by the end of September". My view has not changed in all that time and I hope this clears it up for those of you with short memory spans. Now, quite obviously things haven't worked out for Wilko. He has been unlucky in some respects, injuries for one, however he has also shown a poor lack of judgement in many respects of which his public speaking has been a major factor. Now then, after saying all that this is my final point and again is something I have said from the very beginning. The choice of manager belongs to the owners of the club. We have never had such an exciting future, all down to these two men and their money. It is their decision when the manager should change and should they decide not to make that decision just yet, so be it. I might not agree with them but I have not put over a million pounds of my money into the club and saved it from extinction, they have! When they are ready to make a change, I will support them in whatever decision they make and should they give the job to someone I don't personally like or has a poor track record, I can assure you all I will not be all over these boards saying its the wrong decision and the manager should be sacked after his first defeat. Up the Cobblers!
therealslimmartinw at 08:30:50 Monday September 29 2003
MANAGERS AVAILABLE NOW: For the sake of the club Martin Wilkinson must go now. Atkins weas axed after 10 league games in Division Three with 4 wins, 1 draw and 5 defeats. Wilko's record is identical except that he had more money and as you should know his past record shows a history of failure.
This is a list of just the unemployed managers alone with better records than Wilko in no particular order. Shows there are greater talents out there. The Cardozas must put their best judgement where their money is and make changes for the sake of the club. This, by no means exhaustive list is an indicator of the talent currently with their feet up watching Sky Sports.
John Aldridge, no introduction needed; Ian Banks, formerly Bradford City; John Barnes, won 19 out of 29 matches with Celtic;
Steve Cotterill, who had 255 matches in charge of Cheltenham Town and won 118; Kenny Dalglish, we know all about him; Jean
Tigana and Christian Damiano his assistant; John Deehan, former assistant at Villa who managed 86 wins and 59 draws in 229
matches in charge of Wigan and Norwich; Glenn Hoddle and John Gorman (hoddles number 2); Terry Dolan whose done the round
with Bradford, Rochdale, Hull and York; Roy Evans, the former Liverpool manager; Trevor Francis, who we all know about; Gerry
Francis, ditto; the former Scotland international Richard Gough; George Graham, again who we know all about; John Gregory,
whose man management skills arent the best but may have learnt a lesson and has done in in the Prem; Steve Gritt, former
Millwall boss but had an ok spell with Charlton in the early 90s getting 76 wins and 50 draws in 206 games; Adrian Heath,
with okay 71 match spell with Burnley managing 26 wins and 18 draws. Tom Hendrie with 55 victories and 38 draws in 153
matches in charge of St Mirren and 42 wins in 93 with Berwick; Joe Jordan, out of the game for six years but a decent record
with Bristol C, Stoke and Hearts winning 136 oout of 329 games with 84 draws; Howard Kendall, who won the Premiership with
Everton and has been kicking his heels for five years; Joe Kinnear, former Luton boss who notably got 130 victories and 109
draws in 364 games in charge of Wimbledon; John Lambie, uncompromising manager who took Partick to the SPL; Former Villa boss
Brian Little who tried and failed at Hull although with 41 victories and just 28 defeats in 97 games might think he could
still do a job for someone; the LEGEND Lou Macari (all that needs be said, get him NOW); Mel Machin, decent 119 wins and 82
draws in 322 game spell with Bournemouth; Ray Mathias, former Tranmere and Wigan boss; Steve Parkin, former Mansfield,
Rochdale and latterly Barnsley; Bruce Rioch, experienced boss who made his name as boss of Bolton then Arsenal before being
controversially ousted; Graham Rix, rave reviews as Chelsea's former number 2; Bryan Robson, big name but unimpressive former
Middlesbrough boss; Glen Roeder (ha ha ha, a joke); Ebbe Skovdahl, the former Aberdeen chief; Walter Smith, won SPL titles
galore and never given a financial chance with Everton; former Palace and Wycombe boss Alan Smith; Frank Stapleton, Arsenal
legend with ok debut management spell with Bradford winning 47 and losing just 39 out of 129 games; former England bosses
Graham Taylor Howard Wilkinson and Terry Venables; Luca Vialli, failed with Watford but shone when he had money at Chelsea;
Mick Wadsworth, experienced lower leagues boss but unimpressive last time out losing 23 out of 43 games, with 10 victories
with Huddersfield; Dave Watson, formerly Everton and Tranmere.... and loads of managers overseas.
minky lart burger at 07:07:06 Monday September 29 2003
Paul trollop likes floatie corners...........i know you
Pihuan at 06:09:18 Monday September 29 2003
Looks like RSM was right all along, the scales have been lifted from my eyes. Wilko has clearly lost it and will be replaced this week I'm sure. Installing him as a careaker manager was fair enough, giving him the job full time clearly hasn't worked, these are his players and they don't seem to want to play for him. Where does that leave Hill. He was one of the best ever and most exciting players in a claret shirt, and I and many others will always hold him in great affection. Whether that means he's a good coach is another matter and I think that the jury is still out on that. As for candidates, hope BFJ isnt in the picture, his extravagence nearly destroyed Luton and has tainted his reputation. Whatever happens I hope that this hasn't dampened the Cardoza's enthusiasm. Up the Cobblers!
zebedee at 02:51:04 Monday September 29 2003
been a long time. havent been for months because cannot believe mk is still there after the problems of last season. reports and talk in the pub is very pessimistic. cant believe we stuck with im. realslim got it so right back then and got slated by many including the mp 4 saying what i thot was obvious. goodonya slim. a certain mp has egg all over his face. let the record show that the slimmeister was absolutely spot on scarily so. time for bed.
Anon at 02:46:16 Monday September 29 2003
Middlebill, changed his mind again, never!!
Brixworth Cobbler at 02:04:52 Monday September 29 2003
How can you have a go at someone who calls themself "Anon" when the name Middlebill doesn't exactly tell us all about you? I can't see as there's a great deal of difference in the two names. Try to be more balanced please!
Brixworth Cobbler at 02:00:14 Monday September 29 2003
I can't never quite tell which camp Middlebill is in! One minute I think he's a Wilkinson "defender" and the next minute he seems to have done an about turn. Middlebill, just for the record, do you think Wilkinson should stay or go?
moany from the west at 00:41:04 Monday September 29 2003
didnt go yesterday had to work thank god but listened on radio saints and we sounded worse than poor, woody(bless him) came for a cross and was able to collect! thats how bad our aerial threat was and we didnt have a single shot on goal second half apparently.the whole thing reminded me of when wilson was about to go ,i think wilko n hill we be looking for the knife to stab the other in the back as i think 1 of the 2 will not there if we lose to lincoln tues come the hull game.lets hope they play harsley for the 90mins tuesday night!
therealslimmartinw at 23:47:11 Sunday September 28 2003
THE WILKINSON INDICTMENT: I haven't read any other posts. I don't need to for what i have to say. There is only one thing that can happen this week and that is the sacking of Wilkinson or if he has any decency he should walk away himself. If it doesnt happen after this shambles of a performance this clear statement that the players are not with him, then there is something fundamentally wrong. The team are just not playing for him and it is not surprising. The team were lifeless, without motivation, going through the motions. The natives were Fundoutbtedly restless. The Wilko out chants were incessant. The feeling of disbelief at the game being over by half time. Fans, hardcore supporters, queuing for burgers well before half time because they had had enough. The chants of "what a load of rubbish" directed not at the players but Wilkinson. How Woodman got the biggest cheer of the day and showed that a part of him is claret through and through. This was a disgrace. The clear results of a manager who has lost the dressing room. The invention of a man who doesnt understand tactics. Three nil down and only one substitution and no Asamoah, the kind of player who could actually open up the defence. It was one dimensional, lacking of midfield flaire, lacking in a cutting edge up front and limp in defence. Ian Atkins's side, not playing long ball, shock, but playing whenever they could to Alsop who won every header and despite the fact he had not pace and was clearly overweight and lacking in fitness, cause us problems. It doesnt take an lower division expert to know Alsop's threat tin the air, yet he was never marked properly. In truth it could have been five or six nil. Even more. They had chance after chance after chance. The half time break made little difference to the endeavour of the players, a sure sign that all is definitely not well. Players like Hargreaves, a shadow of their former selves, playing safe passes, not wanting to take responsibility, hiding. Well, he is nothing more than a fringe player, after all, as Wilko has so publicly said. These are the fruits of Wilkinson's labour and they are sour. They show a lack of leadership and a failure on every level. The only plus point was Josh Low, whose enthusiasm shone through and he looks as dangerous as you like. But nobody else seems to be on the same wavelength. All this and Wilkinson cannot even bring himself to comment on the match officially on the offical website, it's left to the Hill to tell the now familiar story. The kind of participation in the side that he showed all day. All he ever did was sit on his chair and looked disinterested. Not a single cajole, not a word of direction from the box. If he shows no interest, why should the players, why, indeed should we? Well we aren't and it is showing in the home attendances which are as low as I can ever remember them. If this the future, the future is bleak. But we know it's not the future. This is the start. There is no way Wilkinson's future is tenable. He must go, he should never have got the job in the first place, and those of you who said otherwise.... shame on you.
Middlebill at 23:22:32 Sunday September 28 2003
I would like to admire your stance ANON at 23.17 for your support for Wilko and Hill, but being "ANON" makes it a little pointless!
Madrid Cobbler at 23:22:06 Sunday September 28 2003
Think we need a proven manager, sensible tactics and some confidence. Maybe a striker too, but I reckon Smith, Youngs and perhaps Richards and Dudfield could all score goals under another manager who can inspire better service from midfield. Perhaps we shouldn't expect an announcement tomorrow. After all, if there's a backroom clearout, there has to be a new manager lined up before an announcement is made.
Anon at 23:20:37 Sunday September 28 2003
and I'm sorry, but Asamoah IS NOT the answer. He runs and turns but there is no end product, he can't shoot and he falls on his arse more often than Ali Gibb used to. Cotterill would be a better manager than Rosenior (sod it, most of us here would be) but Wilko and Hill WILL get us promotion given the chance. It is still very early days in the NTFC Revolution.
Anon at 23:17:37 Sunday September 28 2003
If Joe Kinnear comes we will be bankrupt by the new year - despite the Cardozas. His wage would be astronomical (not to mention the pie bill) and he would sign players on silly money. While we may have a bit of cash, we should not just piss it away. I am still behind Wilko and Hill - for me it is the players who need to stand up and be counted - at the moment they are eleven men sharing one brain cell. Despite being a young squad on average, there is enough experience and footballing ability in that team to be able to take what Wilko tells them and win a game of football - the management is not telling them to play shite, they're doing that all for themselves.
Anon at 21:48:13 Sunday September 28 2003
I hope mystic gary knows not what he says as the job should be open to all commers.
Ralph2 at 21:42:05 Sunday September 28 2003
I don't finish till 4.30 myself. I'm more than happy to pick you up we might not manage a beer though, there's always tinnies to keep you going. Remember to save a couple for after the game, I think you might need them. Let me know what you think Sir.
Hotel Ender at 21:31:56 Sunday September 28 2003
fao Ralph2. yes mate, I'm going to Lincoln but not finishing work until 5pm - so might be a bit of a rush
Clarence's Sister at 21:18:18 Sunday September 28 2003
I never thought Wilko was the right man for the job but was willing to give him a go. Haven't been to any away games this season but am a season ticket holder and have not missed a home game, including Norwich. Anyone can see that things are not right within the team, there is no motivation and if we continue as we are we will certainly not get promoted and may even be contenders for relegation. The Club promised us so much with all the pre season hype - the time has now come to take action before it is too late - Wilko must go and we should advertise the job as we should have done in the first place. I will continue to support the team and hope with a change of management that we can be up there at the end of the season - we have good players but they need playing in correct positions and they need motivation!!!!!
COBBLERS GHOST at 21:17:25 Sunday September 28 2003
Having played some of the top and the bottom teams in the division and lookign at the remaining fixtures can somebody please tell me where the hell we are going to get the next 3 points from. On this form we will be lucky to stay up.
Old COBBLER at 21:05:17 Sunday September 28 2003
I have sopported the Cobblers for some 60 years through ups and downs through good times and bad in the hope that one day we would have a team to be proud of.I bought a season ticket again this season which I could just about afford in the hope that this was going to be the year. The promises and the build up made by the club attractive as they are leave me feeling that I have spent my last penny and cant go to the toilet. My friends and family think am daft and want locking up. This team we have may look good on paper but on the pitch they are a collection of individuals who are goal poachers and have not got a decent shot in them. The defence is always under pressure because the forwards cant score, and this has been the problem over the last 4 seasons. With winter coming me thinks its time to good bye and watch the tele ,and if it is bad football I can at least turn over and watch the film.
A Childs View at 20:49:56 Sunday September 28 2003
Leave Denis Casey alone, he must never go!! I'm not sure about Hilly, I can't stand his touch line manner - all he does is moan and damage confidence. Part of me thinks he should just go, but, the other is a foolishly blind romantic side that still remembers the great player of the 80's. I can't decide, someone else will have to chose on that one!! Nice to see Woody and Hunty again, good acknowledgement from the fans I thought coupled with good acknowledgement by the players, remember, these chaps were part of the heady play off days - we don't have much history so should cherish that which we do have and those that we shared it with. Hoping for an announcement tomorrow - please Mr Cardoza - get it done so we can change the dynamic before what are clearly going to be two round beatings by Lincoln and Hull.
village boy at 20:43:36 Sunday September 28 2003
How about Talbot, we would like to get rid of him
Old Stratford Cobbler at 20:42:06 Sunday September 28 2003
Mystic Gary (you know who that is, Charl, choo choo!!) who's sort of in the know(!) says it's Wilko out and Kinnear in on Monday. Let's wait and see.
Hells Bells at 20:32:14 Sunday September 28 2003
LEAVE DEVON!! Never!! Who in their right mind would swap Dawlish for Delapre, Babbacombe for Bellinge or Salcombe for Southfields??!!
Dave at 20:29:42 Sunday September 28 2003
Make Hilly a coach Childs View!? Forget it, ONE OUT ALL OUT!! Still we have no movement at thrown-ins, running off the ball, crap corners, crap free-kicks, goal scorers not scoring until they leave, defending too deep and unable to get to the by-line before crossing. Just a few problems that successive teams under successive regimes have all suffered from. We need to rid ourselves of Wilko, Hill AND Blyth, Kearney and dare I say it dear old Dennis. The new man should come in and bring his own coaching staff and bin the backroom negativity that has dogged us for too long.
Rob Dunkley at 20:28:00 Sunday September 28 2003
Whilst we are on potential managers, it is of course small talk until the board change things but, a name who hit me today was Leroy Rosennior. He has led Torquay to fourth and I think he is a footballing manager. Whether or not he would want to leave Devon, I am not so sure.
A Childs View at 20:12:11 Sunday September 28 2003
Just got back from a cracking weekend in Oxford, blinding City and so many great looking student girls - I love it!! Not going to talk about the match, Wilko has always been wrong, we all know it and the inevitable can't be far away now. I have some sympathy for the bloke, I'm sure he'd love to be successful just as much as we want it, but, it simply won't happen so lets sort it right now rather than delay. Sackings are never announced on the weekend so it could be tomorrow. In any event, it'll definitely be by next Monday after we lose to Lincoln and get a pasting from Hull. Despite the fact we've made some good signings we are still short in the squad - I think it could do with being smaller but consisting of better quality. The keeper position is week (none of them close to being as good as Welchy), a defence of Reid, Wilmot (get him at centre back where he's class - forget the midfield nonsense!) and Gilly is ok - still need a left back. Low and Burgess is ok for midfield but, from what I've seen so far, only Smithy and Asamoah can cut it up front. Maybe the likes of Youngs, Dudders, Reeves etc etc will get better when the team shape and confidence improves - I hope so. Asamoah is one of the most exciting prospects we've had at the club for years, he needs coaching and could become deadly - not there yet but loads of potential. Remember the goal against QPR in the 2-2 draw - genius in a Cobblers shirt. With Low and Asa we'd have a lovely width, balance and variety. Next steps are very simple, let Wilko go, make Hilly just a coach and allow a new manager to bring in his right hand man as assistant. The job should be advertised and we should select from the best people who come forward, there's a few out there - Kinnear (keen on this one), Cotterill (not so keen, Cheltenham were very direct under him), Macari etc etc. I'd like George Graham but that's never gonna happen. All I want is man management skills, sensible 442, a big-man little man strike force, passing the ball through midefield as well as the odd long ball and a bit of passion and commitment. Whatever, it's always interesting being a Cobblers fan. Come on Cardoza's - say thank you Martin but acknowledge it won't work out and move him on, get the job advertised and we'll see who wants it!!!
Anon at 20:10:34 Sunday September 28 2003
John Beck?
Ralph2 at 19:43:44 Sunday September 28 2003
FAO Hotelender, are you going over to Lincoln? would you like me to pick you up.
All is not lost... at 19:32:44 Sunday September 28 2003
>>>>>>>>>>>.Big_ox Posted on 27/9 22:01 Email this Message | Reply
I applaud
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I applaud your fans for the magnificent support they brought to the kas today. 1511 in all. I was talking to some after the game and they were truly embarassed by the teams performance. I have been to some dire games but a true supporter doesnt leaae before the end no matter how bad you are playing.
I also am pleased for the ovation you gave woody and at the end of the game he came over to your fans and applauded them back. James Hunt did get a bit of stick (i was told by a cobbler) but they was a mindless minority (all clubs have them) but a majority gave him a warm welcome.
I do hope you play better this season and hope you enjoyed the trip
all the best
big ox<<<<<<<
Middlebill at 19:09:33 Sunday September 28 2003
In response to yet another Anon at 18:49:00, I'd like to make the following statement: WARNING: When using this board, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
Ted at 19:03:56 Sunday September 28 2003
Here's One For TED...Unfortunately it's just another harmless pastime that's disappeared.Far too tame for the youth of today who only seem to be able to amuse themselves by stealing,joy-riding and subsequently burning cars.What fun we used to have displaying our conkers in the playground,and even more fun sticking the prickly outer shells down the unsuspecting Cotton girls knickers.Oh Happy Days!
Anon at 18:49:00 Sunday September 28 2003
Middlebill, yourself and cricketside the pedant.
Yoof of today at 18:35:00 Sunday September 28 2003
Conkers, what r they ?? I never go for a walk. The only time I go out is to see what damage I can do to the local church yard or set fire to someones car. Conkers r they some thing to do with the cobblers???
Here's One For TED at 17:59:00 Sunday September 28 2003
Ted's always bemoaning the yoof of today but has anyone else noticed the tons of conkers left untouched beneath the horsechestnut trees? I was strolling through Beckett's Park and could not believe the amount of unmolested conkers on the ground, also in Milton Keynes today loads of them, cheese cutters and all. Sad times or just another tradition gone by the wayside?
Rob at 17:08:22 Sunday September 28 2003
There will be Middlebill, as is always the case, theyre quiet when we lose, and the critics are quiet when we win.
Carl at 16:58:47 Sunday September 28 2003
Cheers 'anon'.
Middlebill at 16:56:05 Sunday September 28 2003
Het Rob, .........."For those supporters still trying to defend the position of Martin Wilkinson".....................Name one, just one!
Bouncers at 16:44:09 Sunday September 28 2003
Boing
Rob at 16:24:59 Sunday September 28 2003
For those supporters still trying to defend the position of Martin Wilkinson I admire your loyalty, it is an admirable trait and one that should be clung on to. Our managers position I believe however is now becoming untenable. In response to TCMP, thankyou very very much for your comments, both informative and helpful, I think we all agree that we are in a very priveliged position to get acces to you at first hand, however I have to dispute your comment about only holding one person responsible. I think we all understand that in modern football the manager is ultimately responsible, and that they stay or go based on performances and results, since the Doncaster game it is hard to see anything but regression with regard to both of those. TCMP did outline plenty of areas that are causing us problems, however they almost exclusively appear to revolve around the players, the manager, their relationships and the instruction/guidance. True, I'm sure the wider management team are equally responsible, but they are MW's team and once more he is responsible. True, undoubtedly the players are letting hime down at times, but they are his players, motivated by him, carrying out his instructions, and once again he is ultimately responsible. True, the players are lacking in confidence, and also true from the Torquay game the support hasn't really helped that with high expectations and little patience, however that has happened, we can't do anything about that, and the crowd will get worse not better. Truth is I would have loved it for MW, I don't have the same depth of feeling that I did for Atkins, he riled me so much that I loathed him, for MW I just feel sorry, he just doesn't seem up to the job. The club NOW needs some direction, a change, and quick, and I belive the only option available to us is to change the man at the helm MW, that doesn't make me proud, nonetheless it has to happen, preferably tommorow.
Anon at 16:20:05 Sunday September 28 2003
Emma beard,pete postlethwaite and Mr Blobby.
Anon at 16:18:01 Sunday September 28 2003
Ian Dowie would be an excellent choice. I htink he also has a MAsters in Mechanical Engineering so he may be able to lend hand with the stadium development.
Anon at 16:12:14 Sunday September 28 2003
Lucille Ball, Desey Arnez Jnr and Mick Shannon.
Candidates for the Constituency of Sixfields at 16:01:27 Sunday September 28 2003
Steve Cotterill
Iain Dowie
Steve Parkin
TCMP
Anon at 15:58:13 Sunday September 28 2003
Nice legs Carl!
Carl at 15:56:30 Sunday September 28 2003
What is unforgivable is playing a defender in Midfield from the off (Wilmott). I thought that was utterly disgraceful, there is no passion, no will to win, nothing. It was an utterly embarrassing performance, and I am getting fed up being embarassed by my football team, at least the last 3 saturdays it has happened, I don't normally ask for a manager to go but I feel the people in charge are left with little choice. UP THE COBBLERS!!!!
Anon at 15:34:39 Sunday September 28 2003
Arsene Wenger?
Anon at 15:22:56 Sunday September 28 2003
George Graham?
Cordwainer at 15:17:53 Sunday September 28 2003
I can forgive Wilko/Hill for the first goal - miles offside, although can you see any of our strikers finishing like that. I can forgive them for the second goal - blinding free kick. I can forgive them for the ineffective ref who failed to stop contious fouls on Low. I can even forgive them for the third goal shambles as that was the players fault.
I cannot forgive them for the complete absence of passion,fight and tactical awareness.They both sat motionless on the bench and made only one sub. They had given up and this body language was passed on to the team.
Oxford were up for it, battled for everything, Alsop played deep and won everything in the air - an Atkins team. We did not have the bottle, organisation or tactics to cope with a fairly straight forward third division team.
Wilko seems a genuinely nice bloke and I am sure he is a good scout and or General Manager but as a man manager/coach I don't think he has got it. I presume that Hill has a say in tactics etc so he is not blameless.
My only doubt about getting rid of them is the time that a new man would take to influence the team and I look at Hull this year who seem to be making up for a bad season last year. Perhaps it takes that long to turn a club round?
Rob Dunkley at 15:17:45 Sunday September 28 2003
No wonder Bobby Winkelman is constantly voted as worst dressed Youth Player, his dad has a bigger Mullett than Chris "Cousin IT" Hargreaves!
Anon at 14:37:17 Sunday September 28 2003
Forget John Gregory - he did nothing at Wycombe and is under FA investigation.
Anon at 14:35:02 Sunday September 28 2003
Hate to say it but Oldham may not be around much longer. I read that they have to come up with £1.2 million this week. Dowie is obviously a manager going places. Overlooked for the West Ham job he may well be on Reading's short list but if he doesn't get that job he would be an excellent choice for NTFC.
Dave at 14:32:23 Sunday September 28 2003
Let's just take our time, advertise the position, take some advice and make an appointment that will last for at least 5 years. Broadhurst and Wilson to my mind were both 'financial' appointments, Wilko was just a mistake. If money isn't such an issue now as it was then we must make a quality appointment.
Cobbler in the West at 14:25:14 Sunday September 28 2003
For all posters on this site I would just ask you to remember one thing, THE GOLDEN RULE - and that is the man with gold makes the rules. I am pretty certain that after a weekend heart searching the Cardozas will do what is necessary. TCMP is more or less saying that and I expect an announcement no later than mid week. We have been here before and will again.
Bierton Cobbler at 14:21:49 Sunday September 28 2003
TCMP - Thanks Tony for your contributions - They have brought a level of sanity back to this site and made it interesting again. You ought to do it more often! I suspect this is going to be an eventful week.
Rob Dunkley at 14:03:08 Sunday September 28 2003
Dowie would at least be able to get the best out of Josh Low. The poor lad needs direction as despite looking quite fierce, he sounds very shy and quiet and I think the last thing he needs is anothe rollocking from Hill. What all the young players need is to be told what they are doing right and helped to turn what went not so well into much more of a positive. If it was not for Dudfield falling flat on his bottom, Josh would have had a fine assist.
Ralph2 at 13:58:34 Sunday September 28 2003
Anon 11:00:22, I agree, Ian Dowie would be my man for the job. I think he has the managerial talent to get us to the first division. I just don't think we could persuade him to move from Oldham to what is currently a lesser team.
Nosey Parker at 13:47:48 Sunday September 28 2003
TCMP will be looking for a new job soon when Labour get kicked out. Maybe he could get off his fat arse and do a bit more. He talks the talk but dont walk the walk. Get your arse down Milton Keynes TCMP
WIMBLEDON FC
simonN.T,F.C at 13:25:09 Sunday September 28 2003
i fancy john gregory to do a good job for us , he still lives round here doesent he?
Onwards and upwards at 13:14:11 Sunday September 28 2003
Morale boosting lines from TCMP and at times like this it is good to see the bigger picture. I doubt that Wilkinson will be in the manager's seat this time next week, maybe even this time tomorrow, but I hope a position can be found for him. He has brought in some good players but clearly is struggling to make a team out of them.
Middlebill at 11:03:59 Sunday September 28 2003
Teaboy, shut up and put the kettle on son, the adults are talking.
Anon at 11:00:22 Sunday September 28 2003
How about Iain Dowie for the hot seat?
Bang on at 10:58:11 Sunday September 28 2003
I think midlebill is bang on re Atkins, he has a limited use and a time limited success period. He will get any team kicking there way to glory in the basement but cant manage at a higher level where football uis required
Anon at 10:52:40 Sunday September 28 2003
I think so.
Ade the Machine at 10:45:54 Sunday September 28 2003
Penultimate day in charge?
Tea Boy at 10:39:11 Sunday September 28 2003
. . . and of course you are an expert on this Middlebill? How many away games is it now?
Middlebill at 10:08:44 Sunday September 28 2003
Ian Atkins knows Division 3 inside out. He knows the type of players you need to get out of this division. However, he would not have had us in Division 1 by now because as the step up is too much for his players, so it is for the man himself. Alsop, Wanless and the like? Good third division donkeys, big and strong bully boys, work wonders in a skill less climate. Next season though, if Oxford do get promoted, they will all have to be replaced amd that is when once again history will repeat itself, Atkins will flounder and eventually get the sack. Give Atkins some credit though. With promotion, he'll insist on a longer contract, then when he's sacked, he'll get yet another big pay day with no concern as to whether that sends yet another club towards bankruptcy.
the odds at 09:50:20 Sunday September 28 2003
Kinear 6/4 fav, Cotterill 4/1, Broadhurst 6/1 Hoddle 25/1 f#ckwick 150/1
Ashcobb at 09:45:06 Sunday September 28 2003
You cannot be serious at 00:08:18 - Fair point. My memory has been dominated by the events of recent years. I think there may well be similar potential, adding in a couple more, to the promotion side of the 80's but it requires the right leadership. There have also been highlights in recent years. The promotion side of a few years ago with Welch, Forrester and Howard had its moments. Not a patch on the 80s granted.
. at 09:27:06 Sunday September 28 2003
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TCMP at 08:47:43 Sunday September 28 2003
Thank you for being so informative
Pihuan at 08:23:09 Sunday September 28 2003
Have just enjoyed reading last night's debate, and feel a bit more positive than I did during and after the match. I had hoped Hudders was just a blip, but clearly it wasn't. I've been banging on about a targetman all season, and think that it's obvious that we need one. We have a lot of good players but not a team, and reluctant as I am to criticize the management, it is pretty clear that the motivation is not being provided. Everybody seems to have lost heart, and there isn't the time to get it back together with everyone demanding immediate success. Yesterday was an huge embarrassment, many on here are derogatory about the Atko style of football, yet it was good enough to thoroughly tonk us. It works at this level. Looks as if change is inevitable, even I agree it should be sooner than later. Up the Cobblers!
village boy at 08:09:47 Sunday September 28 2003
But can't you remember everyone calling for Atko's head?
How About at 00:52:49 Sunday September 28 2003
How about we employ a decent manager some1 who is not already involved with the club who has new ideas.The fans got rid of atkins but since then i cant recall a time where we have looked a good side honestly who can recall a point where cobblers have been a side who teams would say it will be a tough game today.I say if atkins were still here we'd be a 1st division 1 side.Well done oxford youre on the way up lads.
Ladbrokes at 00:47:29 Sunday September 28 2003
Wilko to be gone by Tuesday place your money now.
Fron at 00:22:27 Sunday September 28 2003
tempting isn't it.
Anon at 00:20:35 Sunday September 28 2003
I wish I was still down the pub!
Rod at 00:17:51 Sunday September 28 2003
I'm not sure what TCMP means when he says that there are many other than Wilko who should be having a sleepless night. The manager has to take responsibility (actually you could say Cardoza does as it was he that appointed Wilko when any sane supporter would have advised against it). Oh well we are where we are as the saying goes, but I am sure TCMP in his heart of hearts knew this would be the outcome. Those of us that have watched the game and played the game knew Wilko was not the man. What MUST happen now is a clean sweep, all the backroom staff must go. Too many good players have come to Sixfields over the years and been made to look ordinary, the minute they leave they turn in to World beaters. One out all out is what I say and take time and advice on the new man in.
Ashcobb at 00:17:12 Sunday September 28 2003
TCMP. Thanks for your responses tonight. I doubt many other clubs have the benefit of someone who has an influencial role on bahalf of the fans to take the difficult decisions. Doesn't ease the pain of today but you have put a sense of perspective against the bigger picture which still looks rosy. My 6 year old will keep the faith as he won't be accompanying his father anywhere else thats for sure. It's either watch the Cobblers or go shopping with his Mother and Sister. I know that's a marginal decision at the moment but things can only get better as your lot say! Enjoy the seaside and up the Cobblers.
You cannot be serious at 00:08:18 Sunday September 28 2003
ASHCOBB - You reckon this is the most talented bunch of players you have seen at the Cobblers since 1978? You must have had your eyes shut!! Gleasure v Harper? McGoldrick v Chambers? Doig v MacPherson? Carruthers v Chard? Gilbert v Hargreaves? Hill v Low? Morley v Dudfield????? Benjamin v Richards? Honestly!!!!?????
Ralph2 at 00:04:21 Sunday September 28 2003
Another very dissapointing performance to endure, I think enough has been said about it that I might add anything constructive. Something that has been raised that I think is of paramount importance is the process we use to find a replacement for Wilko and Hill. In my opinion we have to advertise the job on every relevant forum possible, and if TCMP's excellent and very encouraging post at 22:27:59 is anything to go by we should be able to encourage a quality applicant to join us (not Joe Kinnear IMHO)and help the Cardozas bring their ideas and ambitions to fruition. It was a great turn out today, I hope the Cardozas were suitably encouraged to see us all there even after the dross we have been having to endure. Thanks for your input Tony. Hope to see you all at Lincoln aswell :-)
TCMP at 00:03:19 Sunday September 28 2003
DEK, and Lutterworth many thanks for your comments they are well made and helpful, and once again for all those who travelled today, sorry, we don't deserve your unstinted support at times, but you know and I know that come what may we will be back for more. The future really will be brighter. Despite todays performance, and the obvious need to improve things quickly I can honestly say that I have not felt so positive about where we are going as a club as I do at this minute. We can and we must get this right and take our chance at the big time, rough and smooth I am along for the ride and I hope all of those posting tonight will be there alongside. Goodnight, Tony
Foxed at 23:54:31 Saturday September 27 2003
Yep, the football debate has really foxed realslimartin, he must have panicked when he realised "wilko out" or "have you seen the stats" would not cut mustard as a post. Anyway give me thoughtful comments on whats wrong instead of boring gripes anyday.
At Last at 23:50:38 Saturday September 27 2003
at last a debate about football, this is what Cobblers Comments was created for. Pity it took us losing to Oxford to kick it off.
TCMP at 23:45:10 Saturday September 27 2003
Lutterworth, we are still trying on the training pitch front as far I as know, however you are right to suggest that our plans do include new training facilities and yes we are talking to a number of people about a number of sites including Timken. Depressed, we went to Newcastle to look at their Playing for Success scheme (football clubs working with schools to enhance education opportunities for youngsters whilst at the same time introducing them to the club)Newcastles is one of the best in the country. The visit is just part of our work in planning for the day when we take over the management of the stadium. We are not waiting around until the deal is done but are preparing the ground before we develop the ground (if you catch my drift)Anyway last call for questions as I am about to hit the sack in 2-3mins.
DEK at 23:44:45 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP, You are right with much of what you said, but doesn't that all come back to the Manager and coaching staff. I also beleive that we do not work hard enough as a team and are too static in terms of units that MW talks about. Watch Hargreaves closely and he works hard in a 25 yard area and battles for 5 minute spells. Surely as a midfield player he should be getting in the box, he often plays a ball forward and then stands there watching. The most successful teams work the hardest, forward and back and hate losing but are not afraid to lose in order to win. The corner flag debate underlines were are management team stand, frightened to death of defeat. I know that MW talks about being positive but it the last two league games he has sat all game with his arms folded, face like a wet weekend, seemly already accepting defeat. (much like the last ten games of last season). Is it a manager's job to motivate his players? MW doesn't seem to think so!
Lutterworth at 23:41:50 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP - agree with many of the observations you suggested in your post at 23.30.37, if its as obvious as that to you, and many many fans, then surely the manager should also realise that we would be better of playing a straightforward 442 with players playing in their strongest positions (eg Wilmot in centre defence & Low on the right wing) and impressing on the playrs that they are good enough to win there personal battles and play as a unit then we will have a better chance of winning the game? Of course the team needs strengthening in one or two areas so the board & the manager should either do that with loan signings etc or the board should accept that the manager isnt able to get the best from the players, that he is not getting them to play as a team, and make a change.
Depressed at 23:36:52 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP.Could you please tell us the reasoning behind the trip to Newcastle this week which Steve Riches mentioned in his column.
Lutterworth at 23:31:25 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP - has the club sorted out a decent training facility yet, training on the bumpy pitch at Moulton obviously doesnt help us to perfect our passing game! and it may be one of the reasons why we seem to suffer so many injuries, is the club planning any new training facilities as part of the redevelopment of Sixfields? or are we talking to the people assocoated with the development at Timkens as that could be an ideal venue.
TCMP at 23:30:37 Saturday September 27 2003
DEK, I don't think any club should pay 3/400 K for Luke Beckett as the price is too high, and any manager in the 3rd or 2nd would give there right arm for an annual salary that was a quarter of that amount, some even an eigth. Other than the players and the manager as to reasons why we were so bad I would add confidence, strength on the ball, belief, player to player understanding, ever changing side, maybe something wrong at training? failure to win 2nd ball, not moving up the pitch as a unit, stretching the line between the front two and the Midfield, communication on the field, communication between on field and off, something wrong with the set up for away travel? clubs knowing we can play football but not if they bully us out of the game? all these ad many more are good points to start looking, and you are probably right we may have faired better in the 2nd, as we seem to play better with time on the ball.
Anon at 23:26:02 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP. I think you will find that it his son.Pete Winkleman publicly stated that his son played in the Cobblers Centre of Excellence.
Gomez at 23:24:39 Saturday September 27 2003
Just really disappointed about todays game .... I think the Cardozas are doing a great job
CP at 23:23:16 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP has Wilko been told he can bring in more players? there was a rumour about someone from Wolves joining us this week?
Ted at 23:21:31 Saturday September 27 2003
Gomes..TCMP would be a fool if he divulged everything on here for all and sundry to view.Ofcourse there are many things going on behind the scenes,but just be assured that they are all in the good interest of NTFC.
TCMP at 23:19:39 Saturday September 27 2003
Gomez, I agree perhaps your just paronoid my old friend, as the only evidence I can find "that these Luton/Cobblers links seem to keep cropping up" was when they cropped up again in your post below. Rob, I don't think the young Cobblers Winkleman and the Peter Stringfellowesque Franchise FC Chairman are in any way related. Nor thank god do they share the same barber. 5649 at the Hockey club? what a dissapointment. What happened to the 9000 sell out we were promised? The first caller on 606 tonight spoke not only with a plum in her mouth but also tried to tell us there were 10,000 there! I think the PR machine has spun out of control, and to think Alistair Cambell was ther following Burnley and has been outspun.
DEK at 23:19:12 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP, Do you think it more important that the club spend 300 / 400k on the likes of Luke Beckett or in the wages etc of a proven / better manager? I am trying to think of other reasons why today was so bad other than the manager & players and I can't, can you? Perhaps today seems so bad as it is one of many over recent years, perhaps because in terms of results, entertainment, attitude, atmosphere and performance we have not improved despite being in DIVISION THREE. I am sure that had we been in Div 2 and we were playing say QPR, Wigan even Tranmere then this season would not seem so bad. I would apprechiate it if you could answer some of my questions / comments. Thank You
Anon at 23:12:31 Saturday September 27 2003
Rob - Yes. See post below yours!
Gomez at 23:11:33 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP - I would indeed be interested to know what money Lee Power has invested in the club. I may well wish to join them. As to more precise questions, there are none really, except that these Luton/Cobblers links seem to keep cropping up don't they? Barry Ward being another one that I forgot. The fact that Mr Cardoza is allegedly aquainted with Mr Winkelman also worries me. Maybe i'm just paranoid! Anyway WILKO OUT!!
Rob Dunkley at 23:07:05 Saturday September 27 2003
As a general point is the Bobby Winkleman (the Cobblers youth player) the son of Pete Winkleman.
TCMP at 23:06:36 Saturday September 27 2003
Dek,I didnt say "be constructive but don't blame the manager." or anything like that. What I said was that I wouldn't be drawn into comments on Wilko and that I believe to concentrate on just finding one person to blame and not trying to look deeper at what went wrong is in my view not very visionary. Whytewell, yes you are right the egm was about share capital and there is no set meeting on monday. I will be in Bournemouth for a start, but in this day and age we do talk to each other in other ways than simply sitting around a table. But the we I include in any post mortem is we the club including the team management board and fans and in many ways this board is part of that debate.
Rob Dunkley at 23:03:53 Saturday September 27 2003
I think Lee Power was to be a director of Luton in the Gurney era, but he was recommended by Peter Miller and as soon he discovered what was going on he stood down. Looking at the Pro Sports Caribean site which has a lot about us on! it talks about Power running Cr8 who make official programmes including our own. So you are saying that as an associate director he is there because he brings some specialist knowledge to the board?
village boy at 23:00:20 Saturday September 27 2003
MK Wimbledon played their first game in front of 5639 today most of which must have been programme collectors after the 1st edition.Not suprised you got turned over at Oxford as I said before they are not a bad side, sometimes you have to accept that fact. Bet Atko was full of it.
Rob Dunkley at 23:00:03 Saturday September 27 2003
Completely agree, IF a change IS made, we must get it right this time. We should advertise the job and see who wants it. MY guess is there will be three sorts of applicants. Very good managers who just happen to be out of work (Kinnear, Cotterril). No hopers and finally r ambitious players just finished on the playing side - look at Parkinson at Col U. He has done wonders for them and comes across as articulate.
TCMP at 22:58:54 Saturday September 27 2003
Ashcobb, no mate I thought your comments were spot on, I appreciate it when people attempt to put a reason to what is going on rather than just say we were crap and don't go into the why. Don't worry about your son he will come through it stronger for the expieriance. I was born in 1963 and started watching the club at the age of 3 just as our decline from the top flight was in full swing. I watched George Best take us to pieces with his 6 goals in that 8-2 defeat in the Fa Cup to Man U and I love the club even more for my troubles. But lets hope he has something to cheer about soon. Gomez, The board is still 5 members Tony and David Cardoza, Barry Hancock and Myself, with Barrie Egan as a non executive director. Lee Power has joined us as an associate Director to join Martin Church, Barry Collins and Nick Stephenson and we are grateful to all of them for their input. If you want to talk about investing a bit of money in the club then you can join them them if you wish. I thought we cleared up the Luton stuff yonks ago, and I don't see the relevence of the question? If you can be a bit more precise as to what your worry is I will try my best to help but their is not much of a story to tell to be frank with you.
DEK at 22:54:20 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP, How can you say be constructive but don't blame the manager. Having seen most of the games under Wilko, yes you can blame players but the manager has to give them direction, instruction and attitude. This season we have had more formations than goals (scored) and last season was just as bad. He has signed 13 players?, yet still we have no plan, no sense of what sort of team we are nor exactly what type of football we should play. No game this season have we been convincing and just to remind you, WE ARE IN DIVISION THREE. Overall our lack of goals over the last three seasons sums up everything, we are so concerned about not losing that we have forgotten how to win, ie: attack, get men in the box whenever possible (not just in the last five minutes when 3-0 down) and score goals. 5 goals in 6 home games against Torquay, Darlington, Doncaster, Norwich, Carlisle and Macclesfield should go a long way in pointing out the problems. This is without mentioning calling supporters thick and then blaming one player for not scoring within twenty minutes whilst mainly being in midfield. Please tell me MW's good points and what he has done great for this club. Also when you have money in any area of business, sport or government, the most successful buy the best managers / advisors they can. Is MW really the best we can afford?
Whytewell Cobbler at 22:49:08 Saturday September 27 2003
Wasn't the EGM about increasing the share capital etc? I don't think that Monday's meeting is a shareholder meeting at all - perhaps a Board? If it is, the Cardozas will be well place to give Trust and other supporters an update at the Forum. What difficult decisions they face, though - not just go/stay for Wilko (though I agree with many posters that if it is go, then some other role could allow him to continue making a big contribution; not sure about still living in Yorkshire, though!), but also if not Wilko then who, and what about Richard H, and what effect, if any, does all that have on plans for further new players. Rather them than me, anyway, butI hope that they will remember that all of us (except, just possibly, posters who cannot keep their foul language to themselves) will go on supporting devotedly - being a Cobblers fan is a life sentence for some of us!
Dyl at 22:47:02 Saturday September 27 2003
I did something today I have never ever done before. I left before the end of a game. I am usually one of the last to turn on a manager, but I'm afraid we were so inept today that I am now one of the Wilko Out brigade. Everyone knows how Atkins gets his teams to play. everyone except Wilko. we hit long ball after long ball, whilst doing nothing to contain their more succesful version of the long ball game. When did we make our first tactical change? 60 minutes. We'd been 3-0 down for a good 20 mins by that point. Today we didn't play the wrong tactics cos we had no tactics. We have some great players but Wilko doesn't know how to get the best out of them. The Cardozas have done the club a great service so far, but I am afraid there is one more decision that needs to be taken - we need to get rid of Wilko and we need a talented manager who is on the way UP.
Gomez at 22:41:00 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP - I would like to know about the appointment of Lee Power as a director. That was kept quiet wasn't it? This whole Luton/Northampton/Gurney/Miller/Fenwick/Xara/Kinnear/Goode/Wimbledon/Trinidad thing still worries me. There you go - there's a non wilko question to answer!
Ashcobb at 22:38:47 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP. I hope you didn't find my comments below "retentive" but my experience as a manager of people at work is that you have got to get the most out of a team by playing them to their strengths and having a run with a stable team. I know injuries have plagued the team but formations and personnel changes seem to have left a lot of the team confused. Wilko and Hill should at least establish themselves a core group of personnel and formation and give it a run to build an understanding.
EGM at 22:32:57 Saturday September 27 2003
so has he been sacked already?
egm at 22:31:20 Saturday September 27 2003
Gomez the egm was on Friday.
Rob Dunkley at 22:30:57 Saturday September 27 2003
Interesting to see Firoz Kassam's comments about Sixfields. Looks as if they are building their own cinema at the Kassam very impressive. Is a flash conference centre like at Oxford on the agenda?
Anon at 22:30:30 Saturday September 27 2003
Post match interviews. Goal was offside, even Basham felt he was. Talking to Willmott he said his substitution was tactical cos Wilkinson wanted to play 4-4-2. Hang on, didn't we stay as 4-3-3? When asked if he liked the holding role and was he happy there, Willmott relied "Errrm.... yes, and no - it was a bit unfaimilar for me". Is the writing on the wall?
United we stand....... at 22:28:25 Saturday September 27 2003
Whatever the week ahead holds I suggest a big show of support for the Cardozas when they take their seats on Saturday.
TCMP at 22:27:59 Saturday September 27 2003
depressed, for what it's worth I will try. The negotiations regarding the ground are going well and the Xmas deadline still looks reachable. Plans for new build in all areas are being developed and if we get a fair wind then work will start in the close season. We have been looking at improving all sections of the club and we are above our estimates in respect of commercial income and gate recipts (the cup matches helped) The youth set up is being reshaped and we have plans to expand both the Football in the Community project and also look at the possibility of a Study Support Centre. The relationship between the Trust and the board is very strong and looks likely to grow and reap divedends, and thanks to the imput of David and Tony the finances are getting themselves in shape. Not enough to wipe the memory of todays defeat I know but we have a direction and we are determined to keep on route. So we will have to take the rough with the smooth and keep the faith. Hope this helps. Some of the comments below, whilst understandable and warrented are still very analy retentive, we know it was awful and we know we have to sort things out but comments telling us where it is wrong and what is missing are much more useful than those simply concentrating on laying the blame. As I said earlier I think there are a number of people at the club who ought to have a sleepless night tonight not just one.
Anon at 22:26:01 Saturday September 27 2003
I just hope the Cardozas realise from the number of our supporters at Oxford the potential remains great and the Cardozas do not lose heart.
The seasonal sport of changing our manager is upon us once more.
Gomez at 22:25:28 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP ... Maybe at the EGM on Monday you can suggest that Wilko can be kept on in some sort of scouting role?!?! He's very clearly a nice bloke and can spot a good player. Just a shame that he has never made the grade as a manager. Hill/Kearney/Blyth Out, Wilko as Chief Scout (or Director of Football), Hoddle/Waddle as Manager/Assistant!!!!!!!!
Ashcobb at 22:19:31 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP I just wanted to say that as a Cobblers fan since 1978 I am extremely grateful for what the Cardoza's have done to revive the club that I love. My son, 6, is in his second season as a season ticket holder. He has used the word "boring" repeatedly this season and his mates at school are luring him towards Arsenal and Chelsea (we live around Heathrow and travel up every week). These are the most talented bunch of players I can remember seeing at the Cobblers. I need them to show him the passion and excitement that comes from a bunch of players that bond as a team and are committed to the shirt else he will be lost to the Premiership prima donnas. I don't envy you your meeting on Monday and trust you will take decisive action to unlock the potential that is undoubtedly there.
.Depressed at 22:18:25 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP.You have to agree that calling the fans thick,and then to publicly slate Asa on the radio have been huge gaffs by Wilko.It has been said many times but it's true,that we have have got to be united in the cause for the club for it to be successful.He seems to have lost it with the fans,and now with the players.
From where I was sat at 22:12:53 Saturday September 27 2003
today Wilkinson and Hill never got out of the dugout, even when we were under the cosh. In the second half Kiernan was the only one giving the players any calls and then Wilko ducks the post match interview. Something is going on, but it aint football
Anon at 22:05:18 Saturday September 27 2003
If there is going to be a change of manager,I think the choice has got to match the ambition of the club.It has got to be a well known name with a good pedigree.
WHC at 21:55:47 Saturday September 27 2003
Just read Anon comments below who said "i just heard hillys comments on the radio and i think he was spot on wot he said !". For God sake how can you agree with a man who said, and I quote, "you can't buy experience" and "these payers have got to grow up quickly". How can spend all summer talking about a policy of only buying young players and then criticise them for not having experience. Everybody, except W and H that is, know that you need a blend of youth and experience. Further, he also said and I quote again "I felt sorry for Richards. He was on his own up front". They pick a team with Low wide left and Dudfield wide right and wonder why the kid up front is on his own. Sorry these jokers have got to go.
Gomez at 21:53:56 Saturday September 27 2003
Kinnear No!!!! Overpaid, Overweight and generally a bit of a git. Lets Revive the Hoddle/Waddle partnership. Diamond Lights. Oh yes!
Anon at 21:51:18 Saturday September 27 2003
cmon then guys, lets make a realistic list of potential contenders to replace wilko, are there any out there at the mo? My tip would be joe kinnear, i mean he won the 3rd divi at a canter with luton and was doin well until he got sacked, i know there is all this talk bout how much he was on and all that, but surely david and tony could come to a reasonable agreement, oh and tcmp as you are online just wondered whether you had any opinion on why and if he has apparantly been spotted lately at a few of our games? Also like you say i feel so sorry fo the cardozas at the mo, i could see you all sitting in a row opposite us today and you all looked so pissed off!!
Paul S at 21:37:04 Saturday September 27 2003
NT FCOK - I'm sorry but I disagree, I always thought Atko was a good manager who got dealt an unlucky hand with injuries and got found out. He knew what he was about and wasn't afraid to stand up and justify, with some eloquence, for what he preached. To my mind he lost it at Chesterfield and I felt it was time for him to move on - though I thank him for the good times. Today's match epitomsed his managerial skills - while we were running around like headless chickens, his side knew how to approach the game and what to expect from one another. Then, post-match, he spoke about OUR team with more lucidity than Wilko has managed all season. In spite of all the abuse he received from some of the fans at the end, he would never have called us thick.
therealslimmartinw at 21:18:39 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP.Told you so!
Anon at 21:17:11 Saturday September 27 2003
Franchise FC played their first game in Milton Keynes,and out of a crowd of 5639,less than two thousand actually paid the full matchday admission price.
Depressed at 21:12:48 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP.With all of the problems on the pitch,can you please cheer us up by informing us of positive developments off it?
Ted at 21:09:14 Saturday September 27 2003
Good to hear from you Tony.I think it's plain to see that whatever Wilko & Hill are endeavouring to get across to the players,for some reason or another it's not working.Yes we have injuries,yes we are still a couple of players short in vital areas.However there was enough quality on show to perform better than we did today,and against Macclesfield.I've just been catching up on news,and I see Steve Riches said in his article that Wilko was carrying his resignation letter in his pocket,and I was told on Tuesday that a minimum of five points from the next three games was required.If as it appears the imminent departure of Wilko is now in the public domain then it's obviously filtered down to the players.The body language in the dugout has been clear for everyone to see in the last few matches.If there is no motivation from pitchside,then what chance do the players have.All I say is Tony.Whatever needs to be done needs to be done quickly.
dave at 21:04:31 Saturday September 27 2003
Headlands and Paul S have just about summed up my feelings to a tee. We look about as inept and rudderless as a team as we were under Wilson. The Cardosas have spent a lot of money bringing better players yet it seems to be the same old Cobblers.....lack of any cohesion, punch up front and despite all the rherotic we are still playing the long ball into no mans land.
Middlebill at 21:00:45 Saturday September 27 2003
Donald. I am soooooo disapointed that you do not want me to come to Milton Keynes as that is something I sooooooooo wanted to do. Oh well, I'll stick by the Cobblers then!
Lutterworth at 20:57:49 Saturday September 27 2003
Awful again today. Ten games in and we look anything but contenders for promotion. Times up Wilko, please step aside so that the Cardozas can bring in a manager who knows how to manage.
Rob Dunkley at 20:53:25 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP, of course we all grateful for David and Tony's work and I know they must be feeling the same, whatever the outcome of the post mortem we must first of all consider how we get into this same cycle of finding ourselves almost on an annual basis of debating axeing the manager. Ian Atkins was the last time we had a stable manager and I do believe that our parting of the ways was inevitable. As fans rep on the board, I trust you will raise our concerns that we have a collection of players who should be punching their weight in the league and something is very, very wrong. Indeed without being patronising, Atkins got a hell of a lot out of journeyman players, we know have BMWs as players, but who is driving them?
Gomez at 20:52:46 Saturday September 27 2003
Nosey Parker at 20:09:31 - You sad tosser. First game at the stadium:mk and the crowd 5,600. What a joke. How many come December? Oh dear. From a proud Milton Keynes Cobbler. TCMP we need a change - lets get an experienced manager in this time.
TCMP at 20:39:00 Saturday September 27 2003
Well, that was truly dreadful. Our performance was woeful and as a director of the club the first thing I want to do is say sorry and apologise to the huge support that followed us down the road to Oxford only to be served up such rubbish. Alsop controlled the game from the start and although the first goal was a mile offside our heads seem to drop immediately. We camped in our own half at times and allowed an Oxford side reknown for sitting back in defence to attack us at their will. It reminded me of the Huddersfield game when we were bullied out of the game. I am afraid our players were not up for the fight at all. We lost almost every 50-50 ball and at times seem to have run out of ideas. What is even more dissapointing is that even after losing 5-2 to Pompey on Tuesday we still looked to have improved at Fratton Park only to take a step backwards again today. I wont be drawn on Comments about Wilko that would be unproffesional and I believe that a number of people need to be asking questions of themselves over the weekend and to single out one person and ignore other failings is not helpful. Believe me the defeat hurt as much in the directors box as it did in the stands. I really feel for David and Tony Cardoza, they have put their all into this club over the last few months and they deserve better. We will have to have a post mortem on Monday and we will think long and hard over the weekend as to everything that contributed to such a poor showing. The players individually and as a team need to be asking themselves where they fouled up. And we need to get our act together quickly for the Lincoln game. I am happy to answer questions as always but I warn you now I am in a foul mood and apologise in advance if I sound a little short.
Martin at 20:33:02 Saturday September 27 2003
Wilkinson and Hill both looked beaten men in the dugout today. Why wait any longer? Please don't offer the job to Kearney and Blyth. Time for a change AGAIN!! Let's get it right this time Mr Cardoza. Thank you.
Donald at 20:29:49 Saturday September 27 2003
I met some pukka gezzers today who taught me lots of new words. We went down the rub-a-dub and I now have lots of new China's. Come on over, it's fantastic. (Offer does not apply to Middlebill and Ted far too old and tetchy).
Paul S at 20:25:47 Saturday September 27 2003
Well I guess today summed up my disappointment for the season so far - we were outclassed by a side of equivalent professionals who knew what their game plan was. Atko has assembled a TEAM who know what to expect of one another because he has told them how to play. WE didn't have a clue! We do have good players but they don't seem to have a game plan - I struggled to criticise the players as individuals - I thought no-one had a particularly bad game but there was no coherence within the team and this comes down to the manager and coaches. For example - It amazes me that we can look so clueless at throw-ins, it's hardly a major surprise that we have throw-ins yet we seem to have no variation, no movement and no ideas when its our turn to chuck it back into play. I despaired when Wilko called us thick for expressing disquiet at the idea that we should run the ball to the corner flag rather than take the oppurtunity to score ( I didn't boo but had sympathy with those that did for what other method of showing anger at such an attitude exists to the fans) and he lost any shred of respect that I might have had by attacking his own player when he didn't score in the scant 20 minutes he was given against Macclesfield when we had been dire for the previous 70 minutes. Wilko has to go and if he has the balls to debate the issue, instead of hiding in his office and then saying no-one turned up, my email address is attached (again) and I will be willing to tell him a few home truths
Headlands Cobbler at 20:23:22 Saturday September 27 2003
There is nothing positive to say about todays game, we were very very poor. To play 433 with 3 defensive midfield players and 2 wide men up front just does not work. Richards was totally on his own against 2 sometimes 3 defenders.The back 4 could not get to grips with Alsop. Our crosses into the box were not at all dangerous whereas every Oxford cross was won by 1 of their players. The first goal was a good 2/3 yards offside no question, but we had 89 minutes to get things going. Surely we could have thrown caution to the wind and at half time taken a defender off (say Chambers who did not have his best game!) and pushed Asamoah/Youngs to play off Richards.But no, we take Wilmott off for Youngs who eventually ends up playing midfield in front of Carruthers??? We just seem content to try to play a passing game with no committment or end product. If we lose on Tuesday ( and it is looking increasingly likely as we never win at Lincoln anyway) then expect very poor home support on Saturday.
Middlebill at 20:11:54 Saturday September 27 2003
Nosey Parker. You are not a man of your word. You said you was off, never to return and we all bid you a fond (not) farewell. Then you come back on almost immediately to tell us your new club just got its 4th point of the season. Please return immediately all the going away presents.
Nosey Parker at 20:09:31 Saturday September 27 2003
Great game today. . . At Milton Keynes. ..lol When will you mugs see the light?
Wimbledon FC
Anon at 19:57:49 Saturday September 27 2003
I was saddened to see Rob Marshall of WALOC fame leading the chants for Wilko out today and "what a load of rubbish" etc. etc. I don't think it helps mate.
Anon at 19:45:53 Saturday September 27 2003
That probably sums up Northants followers of football.
Anon at 19:39:38 Saturday September 27 2003
Just to cheer everone up a little.This from the Direones board.Message posted on 27 September 2003 at 19:07
What a bunch of fickle idiots, after a great season last time out and a good start in this new league what do we get the second things aren't going to brillant, moans, jeers and even boo's. What the hell is going on. If thats the best support you can produce then fcuk off somewhere else, MK dons are opening for make shift footy fans, and we'll except a lower gate, because that type of reaction is detrimental to our teams efforts on the pitch.
NT FCOK at 19:36:13 Saturday September 27 2003
A manager! as I said last week we have not had a real league manager since the seventies,I or We would like to see someone who is a recognised manager who genuinly knows the game and dosnt have to keep making excuses for his learning curve there are plenty of good managers out there who would win you a title if they had the resources and for once we have that, We dont have to look at the unemployed ones or those who are second in command and looking for a break to become one we could approach a multitude of people out there just advertise the job and watch the response. a club like this with no debts a good young squad and funds would be attractive to anybody
Middlebill at 19:35:45 Saturday September 27 2003
CricketSide; Please find the post where I said I supported Wilko. I challenge you and every other bandwagon jumping clown on here to do so. It is so easy to be clever after the event. Without the Cardoza's, you wouldn't even have a club to support. Go and get your plastic buckets ready, it would serve you all right if they were to walk away. You don't deserve success, although I suspect success for a bunch of winging moaners would be to get rid of yet another manager. Roll up Roll up. Who's the next man ready to take on the worst job in football?
NT FCOK at 19:29:28 Saturday September 27 2003
most people who vist this site think its full of cranks ,but appropriately enough tis often cranks that starts a revolution.Without being rude I suppose I would say to to the owners THE MAN WHO WANTS HIS DREAMS TO COME TRUE MUST WAKE UP.
The Drilling Cobbler at 19:27:03 Saturday September 27 2003
CUT AND PASTED A POST I MADE ON THE 15TH SEPTEMBER: Excellent post by Danny. Saturdays 'performance' could easily have been taken out of last seasons archive of horror shows. In the first 3 or 4 games I felt we were heading in the right direction, but since our fortuous victory over Doncaster we have got worse and worse. Some blame injuries, most blame Wilko. We are now 7 games into the season, position 14. 2 home games to come against no hopers. I predict 4 points from them. Oxford away currently looks like a certain defeat. That would leave us on 13 points from the first 10games. I have always said 15 games are needed in order to determine wether this team under its current leadership can achieve the desired level of success, ie promotion. What I have seen from the last 3 games in particular confirms all those pre-season doubts. A win on Tuesday will delay the inevitable, another win on Saturday likewise. I hate to say it but it would be very ironic if Atkins hammers the final nail in the Wilko coffin in game number 10.
SURELY AFTER TODAYS PERFORMANCE HIS TIME IS UP? Absolutely shocking. The players were NOT playing for their manager. Come on David and Tony - please give us a decent manager!!!
Anon at 19:20:00 Saturday September 27 2003
Right .Who do we want for manager? It is essential that we get somebody that we all agree on.
Whytewell Cobbler at 19:15:08 Saturday September 27 2003
Well, you'll all get your chance to put your points direct to the Cardozas at the upcoming Forum meeting, won't you. Hope you're as outspoken then as you are on here.
NT FCOK at 19:14:33 Saturday September 27 2003
one voice singing in the darkness, everything that i said pre season has or is coming true , because it did not take a rocket scientist to work it out, but a rocket is whats needed to get us out of this mess we are creating ,we are digging a hole and its getting deeper every game...surely if you have forked out thousands of pounds on players at the very least you would expect a bit more than last seasons performance, 8 goals conceaded in two games! come on thats crap by any standard especially in the lowest division, I thought an expensive team like this would be able to show a trick or two but apparently not. I WILL SAY IT AGAIN A QUALITY KEEPER AND STRIKER WAS FIRST ON THE LIST AND WE STILL NEED THEM,we're conceading goals at an alarming rate and scoring nothing in the process apart from the odd penalty or two...A goal in 57 seconds just about sums it all up really
Greg at 19:07:27 Saturday September 27 2003
OH and.........UP THE COBBLERS im deppressed goodnight
Ted at 19:07:21 Saturday September 27 2003
Ah CricketSide,another who has blessed us with his presence in his various disguises.You offer very little on the other message boards that you frequent,and you offer very little here.Goodbye!
ashcobb at 19:06:29 Saturday September 27 2003
Just back from the game and have to agree with comments on here. We couldn't cope with Alsop (he won everything in the air vs Richards who won no more than 2) and Basham. Going forward we had no committment to get in the box to get on the end of some reasonable stuff put in by Carruthers mainly and Low some (I thought this was his most committed game). We played it perfectly for an Atkins team hitting long balls at Dudfield and Richards who didn't win anything. There is no passion or drive. Hargreaves had a go. Caruthers was our best player. Chambers was solid but must wonder what is going on around him. Reid didn't have one of his best games. Doig seemed to just hit and hope (I'd prefer to see Wilmott back there who didn't look at the races in midfield. Maybe he needs a few games in the reserves to get his sharpness back). Trollope poor game. Dudfield's confidence has gone but he looked like the only one who was trying to get onto anything in the box. Richards in the pocket of the Oxford defense but the loan striker gave him a tough time. Low not bad but faded. Unlucky with a few attempted through balls. Harper solid enough and don't think he could have done much with any of the goals. Tom Youngs when he came on didn't get much of a look in. I am an optimist about the Cobblers but the management team are not intilling the desire to get stuck in and win in this league. I think their time is up.
Greg at 19:05:24 Saturday September 27 2003
they took their foot of the gas at half time and invited us to play,but we still created diddly squat,no creativity,no passion no confidance, confusion on wether we play footie or the long ball.Adkins side were a side,and as organized as ever....WE NEED A PROFFESIONAL IN CHARGE....NOT SOME GOB SHITE WHO SLAGS OFF ONE OF OUR MOST PROMISING YOUNGSTERS IN PUBLIC i have been watching the cobblers for 25 years,i have never booed my team or shouted for the managers head...Today was embarrasing WILKO MUST GO
Ted at 18:51:36 Saturday September 27 2003
Mr no-name at 18:28:19..I've never been afraid to come on here and speak my mind,unlike others who when their words come back to haunt them suddenly disappear or start posting in different names.The fact is,where there is a fundamental divide between fans on such an important issue as whether the management is capable of doing the required job,this will inevitably eventually spread to the playing staff.What we are seeing now is an unsettled team,with low team spirit and not having the security of supporters who are 100% behind the team and management.For the good of my club,I have got behind the players,management and directors.This is how I always will be.The future of the management team is quite rightly in the hands of the owners of the club who have invested their money, and only they are entitled to make important decisions.Whatever decisions they have made,and whatever they make in the future I will support them!
Lucy at 18:50:20 Saturday September 27 2003
All things considered I think we have let you guys off lightly given your smug, selfsatisfied disposition. I'll leave you all to sqabble amongst yourselves. Toodle-pip.
COME ON RSMW at 18:45:17 Saturday September 27 2003
I am really looking forward to RealslimMartinbloke's next posting. I can see him warming up his fingers nicely, stretching each digits knuckle by knuckle. Go get 'em Floyd!
One of Ted's Supposed Mates at 18:43:19 Saturday September 27 2003
How vulgar that Middlebill is discussing his salary, so common!
Bierton Cobbler at 18:43:02 Saturday September 27 2003
TCMP - as the fans representative on the board I think a report and a Q&A session are long overdue - we are now 10 games into the season and have nothing for a long time now.
CricketSide at 18:41:18 Saturday September 27 2003
Yeah, already 2 of Bilko's biggest fans are showing signs of wilting under the bleedin' obvious. Middlefool is pinning his faith in the Cardoza's (not Wilko) and TEDious is also preparing himself for the inevitable by parting with some 'NEGATIVE' insider info. The end really is nigh for Wilko. Having made such a balls-up of their last mangerial appointment let's hope the Cardoza's do a little better this time.
Tea Boy at 18:36:56 Saturday September 27 2003
Don't have a go at me MIDDLEBILL, it's your choice matey. Some supporter you are putting money before supporting your club. I guess we now know your true colours!
Dave at 18:34:38 Saturday September 27 2003
Having just listened to Ian Atkins on the radio he sounded more positive about our club AND our supporters than Wilkinson has ever managed to do. It was so refreshing to hear such positive comments and enthusiasm in a post-match interview, shame it had to come from the oppositions manager. By the way Atkins thanked Martin Wilkinson for doing his pre-match team talk for him. In typical Atkins fashion he pinned a copy of Wilko's derogatory comments about Oxford, their players and playing style to wall of the home dressing room. The rest, as they say, is history!
Middlebill at 18:31:19 Saturday September 27 2003
Oh and teaboy, find me another job that pays over £35,000 for a 4 day week and I'll take it.
Middlebill at 18:30:30 Saturday September 27 2003
I don't know what you lot are worried about. We'll still go up. I have every faith in the Cardoza's and this poor start will make our success even sweeter when the time comes.
Anon at 18:28:19 Saturday September 27 2003
Well well Ted, do I detect just a little bit of feeling that Wilko may not be good enough coming from you of all people?
Dave at 18:27:06 Saturday September 27 2003
Today was a bloody disgrace, how much longer do we have to sit and watch this rubbish? I have seen all but three of the games under Wilkinson and we are playing no better now than we were when he first took over. It is indicative of the man's career, poor. He didn't have the courage to come on radio to explain himself instead he left that to Richard Hill who basically said we do not have enough quality or experience in the squad. Well that is a pretty damning comment. I sat directly opposite the away dugout this afternoon and frankly Wilkinson and Hill should be ashamed of themselves. The team they assembled are three down, they are a young side and both Wilkinson and Hill chose to sit down, arms folded, offering the lads no support or encouragement. Bizzarely this carried on for the second half too with only Captain Clueless (Mick Kearley) barking 'instructions'. Face it, we are relegation fodder with only 6 wins out of 26 games under Wilkinson. The Cardoza's must take advice and appoint the right man, not Hill, NOT Kearney and Blyth. We need a thorough clear out, advertise the job and take the best man for the job. No team ever won anything with a bad manger, but good managers have managed to win trophies with average players. See you all at Lincoln.
minky lart burger at 18:23:41 Saturday September 27 2003
Tracy Chapman.........nice girl..............i know you
Ted at 18:13:10 Saturday September 27 2003
TRSMW...I hate to have to say this,but I think you may well get your wish.After the game at Fratton Park a former Director told me that no less than 5 points from the next three games (including today)would keep Wilko in his job.That tells me that Tuesdays game is a massive one for all concerned.Today was abysmal,even though the first goal was well offside.However we never looked like getting anything from the game.Great turn-out by Cobb fans,they surely deserve better.I still hope that we can win on Tuesday and against Hull on Saturday to save Wilko,but even optimistic Ted is having his doubts.Never mind I'll always be there for my club,and when we do start having real success it will be all the sweeter.
Anon at 18:08:43 Saturday September 27 2003
i just heard hillys comments on the radio and i think he was spot on wot he said !
Tea Boy at 18:07:32 Saturday September 27 2003
MIDDLEBILL - Only 2 away games, tut tut. It's your choice mate, don't blame your job change it like I did so I could follow MY team.
Kingsthorpe Kobbler at 18:02:38 Saturday September 27 2003
Just got back from the Kassam. Wilko has to go and after listening to Hill on the Radio he can go too and take Blyth and Kearney while you at it. We were totally useless today, don't blame the ref, don't blame injuries, offside goals, blame the manager. He HAS to go. Middlebill, Ted you know nothing about football as your post show, shut up while we get our club sorted out. WILKO IS RUINING MY CLUB!!!!!
Anon at 17:19:40 Saturday September 27 2003
Richard Hill.."What can we do?"
Er at 17:19:30 Saturday September 27 2003
Er, who are all these great players who were destined to take the Cobbs out of the 3rd div? Er, who said they were really good? Er, who said they were 1st div players? Er, who wanted you to spend your hard-earned on a season ticket?
Pissing with laughter at 17:05:59 Saturday September 27 2003
Madrid Cobbler at 16:57:29 Saturday September 27 2003
From NTFC-TV commentary sounds like another very mediocre performance. Good players but not scoring goals (or creating many chances) on the other hand conceding plenty. Wonder who the problem is? A man who not only has no idea how to manage but openly criticises the players he needs to get the results for him. Thanks for the players Wilkinson - now please step aside so we can find a manager to get the best out of them.
Treenie at 16:53:09 Saturday September 27 2003
We can still go up but something has got to change first
Anon at 16:52:45 Saturday September 27 2003
No Cobblers shot on target in the second half when 3-0 down.Things really have to change!
Anon at 16:51:36 Saturday September 27 2003
The season cetainly isn't over anon,but it is if Wilko stays.
Anon at 16:49:48 Saturday September 27 2003
anybody feel silly now for singing we are going up before we had kicked off against torquay first game of the season
Anon at 16:49:20 Saturday September 27 2003
Wilko is certainly not getting the best out of undoubtedly talented players.He has to go!
BlackpoolCobbler at 16:43:56 Saturday September 27 2003
The last four away games have resulted in 15 goals conceded! Surely that can't be what we were expecting pre-season?
GEE at 16:37:24 Saturday September 27 2003
There are no positives coming from this game, we are losing 3-0 to a team managed by a man famed for his 1-0 wins. We have a very good squad of players - that there is no question so where does it point to? the management. As i said before I had no axe to grind with wilko until his public slating of Asamoah, but enough is enough, Broadhurst went on the back of a few hammerings, we have now been 3-0 down at half time in 3 of the last 4 games against Huddersfield, Portsmouth and now Oxford the other game was a poor 0-0. Sorry MW but you aint up to the job. Save face and go before the crowd really get nasty. Cos we all know they can.
Anon at 16:24:34 Saturday September 27 2003
we are fast becoming the laughing stock of the division, largely thanks to loud mouth fans going on other message boards and bleating on about us romping the division pre season. The club are letting us down, fair play to the Cardozas for all they are doing but i dont think they will sack wilko this week but they really need to look at this long term plan we have heard so much about. Wilko is NOT part of the future of this club in his present role.
Anon at 16:20:14 Saturday September 27 2003
this really is a disgrace
Cobbler abroad at 16:15:37 Saturday September 27 2003
Bye bye Wilko.
Anon at 16:05:46 Saturday September 27 2003
f@cking embarrassing
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BlackpoolCobbler at 15:49:21 Saturday September 27 2003
Atkins must be pissing his pants with excitement. After his talking up of our team this week (he was bullshitting) he's well covered his tracks. Oxford win they look great! He's doing a good job!
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:47:21 Saturday September 27 2003
It's bullshit when we go into a game with only 1 striker. It's fucking hard enough to score goals this season so playing with the loan striker isn't going to aid our chances one bit. Wilko just hasn't got a clue with team selection or formation. At this rate, by the time he's gone we ain't gonna have a prayer of going up. Nearly 4-0, Oxford just hit the post! This is embarrasing.
Anon at 15:44:53 Saturday September 27 2003
Could this be the straw that breaks Wilko's back.It does appear that the players don't want him as manager.
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:44:30 Saturday September 27 2003
They have a quality player in Basham. 2 goals today already and our defense just can't deal with him. Saying that they don't seem to be dealing with anyone that well!
Anon at 15:43:55 Saturday September 27 2003
A heavy defeat may be a good thing if it means the end of Wilko
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:42:26 Saturday September 27 2003
3-0 to Oxford! I'm fucking off!
Treenie at 15:41:28 Saturday September 27 2003
I was backing wilko until now. I can't believe we're losing again.
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:40:46 Saturday September 27 2003
We definately require a good striker, someone who will bag us 20+ goals a season. I can't see where we have that in the team at the moment!
BlackpoolCobber at 15:39:21 Saturday September 27 2003
Definately time for Wilko to go! He's fucking clueless.
GEE at 15:38:47 Saturday September 27 2003
Im sorry but i have backed wilko up until his comments on Asamoah, but with Oxford scoring a second just now i think its time to get this mess sorted. 57 seconds is a joke and its high time either we went for another striker to aid with what we have got or something a little more drastic ie bomb out the manager and salvage the season why theres plenty of games left
I for one am sick after all the hype over the summer of at last having something to be excited about we find ourselves no better off than previous years. Im bored of this right now.
Anon at 15:38:30 Saturday September 27 2003
2-0............... go wilko my son,go now
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:37:38 Saturday September 27 2003
2-0 to Oxford Going from worse to worse!
WILKO out at 15:24:17 Saturday September 27 2003
COME ON MK DONS
Wilko OUT at 15:22:14 Saturday September 27 2003
WILKO OUT WILKO OUT
Anon at 15:04:37 Saturday September 27 2003
1-0 oxford. 57 seconds
Simon at 12:45:42 Saturday September 27 2003
Strange that Rob because Open All Hours was set in Doncaster and as we all know our lovely "manager" is from Doncaster.
minky lart burger at 12:30:36 Saturday September 27 2003
i like new cdrw.............i know you
Middlebill at 11:26:45 Saturday September 27 2003
Sorry, the post below is from me.
Anon at 11:26:07 Saturday September 27 2003
Ray at 10:45:08 Duh, I can't post on here with out being at my desk. Well observed. Womble at 10:47:12 I will ignore the first point as I have NEVER, EVER, slagged anybody off for not being at the game. The reason I have only been to two away games? Well, I work shifts and after my holiday entitlement, I also get 8 annual leave days to take when I wish. Sadly, the Cobblers play 23 away games and so I have to be a bit picky. In my time as a supporter I have visited every club in the football league with the exception of one premier club and two new ones, Kidderminster and Boston, both of which will be rectified this campaign. I had been to Portsmouth before, but not to see the Cobblers and as it was my day off, I chose to go. I have had to swap for nights to get top the Oxford game. I have of course been to Oxford before (many times) but not to their new ground. My next away game will be Rochdale. Again I have been there before (many times) but it is my day off so why not. I get one Saturday off in three by the way. Hope this clears it all up for you. Now I'm off to Oxford. Bye for now. UP THE COBBLERS!
Rob Dunkley at 11:15:45 Saturday September 27 2003
I turned on BBC One and saw a repeat of Open All Hours, in a way Arkwright reminds me of Wilko. I do find the situation a worry as having heard Wilko speak at the Open Forum, I have no doubts he is a decent chap. Often when the manager comes across as obnoxious as Thickwit did it was very easy to call for his head - with Wilko it is different. But the fact is we have failed to get the best out of Smudger, who has scored regularly at First Division Level. Wilko blundered on the Stamp front as it is important to have a pair. Look at Howard and Forrester. Forrester without Howard was nothing.
Very good point about Louis and Atkins. Atkins was unhappy with his workrate and Ian seems to be able to pull off things like this and as was said Louis will score. If Martin loves the club as much as he says then he will stand aside from being the manager.
And as for the five year plan - after five years of managing the Cobblers on Champ Manager, NTFC are top of the Prem and Stonhill is still worried about relegation!!
Rob Dunkley at 11:15:37 Saturday September 27 2003
I turned on BBC One and saw a repeat of Open All Hours, in a way Arkwright reminds me of Wilko. I do find the situation a worry as having heard Wilko speak at the Open Forum, I have no doubts he is a decent chap. Often when the manager comes across as obnoxious as Thickwit did it was very easy to call for his head - with Wilko it is different. But the fact is we have failed to get the best out of Smudger, who has scored regularly at First Division Level. Wilko blundered on the Stamp front as it is important to have a pair. Look at Howard and Forrester. Forrester without Howard was nothing.
Very good point about Louis and Atkins. Atkins was unhappy with his workrate and Ian seems to be able to pull off things like this and as was said Louis will score. If Martin loves the club as much as he says then he will stand aside from being the manager.
And as for the five year plan - after five years of managing the Cobblers on Champ Manager, NTFC are top of the Prem and Stonhill is still worried about relegation!!
Watch what you say at 11:11:38 Saturday September 27 2003
Did anyone read thursdays chronic echo? How negative is that bloke Riches? In a position of responsibility that he holds, surely he should be talking the Cobblers up, instead all he does is moan moan moan about all that is wrong and offers no ideas that could have a positive effect. A real opportunity wasted, he might as well post on here.
Stiffy at 11:06:28 Saturday September 27 2003
During his entire tenure Wilko has not inspired me at all Rob and I doubt whether he has inspired the team much either. So many of last season's frailties are still evident in this so called new-look squad of players. There must be something inherent in the club! We have changed the board, we have changed the players, perhaps we have to change the entire backroom staff next. Or perhaps it's the fans we have to change a la Wimbledon!!
Rob Dunkley at 11:02:04 Saturday September 27 2003
And our Brummie friend what exactly did he have to play with in the transfer market - he was allowed to sign Welch, and a few short term players. Most of his money spent the previous season went on his lovely injury prone defenders. Wilko has had it very good, and with no real test at Sixfields you have to be worried about what lies ahead.
Womble at 10:47:12 Saturday September 27 2003
Blimey Middlebill makes it to two whole away matches so far this season whilst slagging off those who don't travel. It's your choice? Well it's your choice too Middlebill so why haven't you been to more games?
Ray at 10:45:08 Saturday September 27 2003
At your desk Middlebill? It is Saturday for goodness sake!
Vintage Cobbler at 10:31:28 Saturday September 27 2003
Any ideas amongst the negatives that to lose today is somehow a good thing is treacherous rubbish and a disgrace. Be positive, act positive and get behind our team
Middlebill at 10:06:02 Saturday September 27 2003
Well lads, its off to the Kassam to support the mighty claret and white, or sit here at your desk and slag off Wilko. Its your choice. Me, I'll be trundling along the Siverstone bypass on my way to see the Cobblers move into the play-offs with our defeat of arch villian Ian Atkins. Oh, and RSMW, I want us to WIN, WIN, WIN!
Milk Monitor at 09:55:15 Saturday September 27 2003
It's all very well telling rsmw to change the record but it is a hot topic and wont go away until Wilko provides the goods or gets the boot. In the meantime this is better than any soap, Hill has gone on record as saying give me six moths and I'll turn Stamp into a good player. Wilko does that in six weeks by selling Stamp to Chester! Wilko calls the fans thick and wonders why the gates have dropped and then turns on the fringe players who STILL form the nucleus of the side. In the meantime he slags off the fans favourite, Flymo!! I can't wait for the next installment of Sixfields Street!!
Simon at 09:52:43 Saturday September 27 2003
If you could take any Cobblers player from the past and put him into todays team, who would you pick? I'd love to see Paul Stratford pulling on the Cobblers shirt again.
Simon at 09:48:45 Saturday September 27 2003
Can't make the game today due to work but please to all that are going just cheer the team on. I don't want MW in charge but there's no way I want the Cobblers to lose. Whatever happened to all the friendly debates that used to go on here? Now it always seems to be Cobblers fans slagging each other off.
Anon at 09:45:45 Saturday September 27 2003
cmon guys, lets stop this negative talk today and make some noise at the kassam, show the lads we care and we might just get the right result!!!
Anon at 09:38:21 Saturday September 27 2003
Is there any hope rsmw can find another topic to write about on CC? WE KNOW YOUR POINT OF VIEW BOY, TO WHICH YOU ARE ENTITLED, BUT PLEASE PLEASE GIVE IT A BREAK. Up the Cobblers.
Old Stratford Cobbler at 08:46:41 Saturday September 27 2003
I think we really screwed up over the Stamp transfer. As one CC poster put a little while back, we should have loaned him out to a conference club, say Chester(!), let him discover his scoring boots which will in turn up his confidence levels and then bring him home to do the same job for us. I believe Oxford have just done exactly this with Jefferson Louis who I believe they loaned out to Woking. He's back there now, scored in midweek and what's the betting he scores today? As for Wilkinson, he will never be liked as a manager at our club and hopefully his days are numbered. He seems to have lost the plot ( supporters thick, Asamoah).The sooner he goes, the better. I don't want us to lose today in order to get rid of him - we need the points for promotion when the right man comes along. How about loaning Wilko to Franchise FC, let him take them down and then let them keep him! There's a new angle on the modern game - loaning out Managers!See you all at Oxford!Up the Cobbs!
Tea Boy at 08:07:45 Saturday September 27 2003
I know what rsmw is saying when he says about wanting us to lose. I have had similar mixed emotions . . . you know that the manager is shite and that winning is just papering over the cracks. You don't want your team to lose but winning is just delaying the inevitable. So better to lose, sack the manager, get the right bloke in and get on with playing the way we all expected to, winning and getting promoted. In the meantime mixed emotions remain.
therealslimmartinw at 07:28:42 Saturday September 27 2003
Interesting point, Rob B. Didnt realise Atkins and Wilko's figures are so similar. But then Atko did have the added advantage of having a far superior record historically not just with other clubs but with other clubs. Like two playoff finals with us. For the record, that means he had 248 games in charge of the Cobblers, had 89 victories, 72 draws and 87 defeats. With Oxford he is managing a little better than a win in three games but he as his past will show due to his uncompromising ttactics, shall we say, he gets more draws. He has had 91 games in charge of Oxford with 34 wins, 24 draws and 33 defeats. Career wise he has had some shocking spells, not surprisingly. When in charge of Cambridge in the 92/93 season he lasted just 29 matches and managed victories in just seven of them. Which is Wilko like. If you look at his whole career it eclipses Wilko's not surprisingly. With 423 games in charge of Oxford, Carlisle, us, Cambridge and Colchester, he is managing a win in just under 3 matches. That's 144 victories, 123 draws and 156 defeats. Compare that to Wilko's 103 games with 27 wins, 26 draws and 50 defeats. As some comedy combo once said - what has Wilko done for us? One thing in his favour that some keep bringing up, he has made some decent signings. But ask yourself this, would another manager with a track record and a name have not brought in better players with the money he has got at his disposal. Just because we brought in loads doesnt make it great. That happened to Exeter a couple of seasons back and they endedup in the Conference. And ATFC, thanks for stating the obvious. No need to gun for me like you always do, by the way, its not very becoming and doesn't do whatever issue you have good. Suffice to say I am not particularly happy myself but know that I will not be alone. I am at least honest about it. Maybe when the the game starts it will change. And who's Dan??? Very odd.
Deepcut Cobbler at 05:55:36 Saturday September 27 2003
Good site at http://www.htfc-world.com/. See their version of the HTFC v NTFC report and see how they saw both our team and our fans. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Pete hendrige at 01:47:59 Saturday September 27 2003
Are you a fireman.........so there
Minky lart burger at 01:46:25 Saturday September 27 2003
Haircuts are nice............i know you
Hotel Ender at 01:20:53 Saturday September 27 2003
How can anyone call themselves a supporter if they want the Cobblers to lose!! No matter how bad the manager - and I've seen plenty in my time - I've never gone to a game hoping to see Cobblers lose, expecting em to lose - yes, many times! lol, but never ever hoping they'd lose - you've really tipped this one over the edge this time rsmw - what planet do you actually inhabit? the "I must be proved right at all costs" planet from reading your latest post. You can carry an obsession too far - and this time you've crossed the line. Please do all true Cobblers fans a favour and piss off. (and that's the polite way of putting it)
village boy at 00:11:22 Saturday September 27 2003
We found Oxford a tough side, they beat us home and away. Atkins is a funny old cuss but you have to hand it to him he is not bad at managing players, He is certainly the best manager you have had for a while, but like as always the boo boys and critics always have the final say.Good luck tomorrow you'll need it unless Oxford have an off day.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 23:39:58 Friday September 26 2003
You really want to see the Cobblers lose. No fan should want that under any circumstances. You really are screwed up. And your alter ego Dan called ME a twat.
Rob Dunkley at 23:26:41 Friday September 26 2003
Well Ye Brumkins was axed after 10 league games in Division Three with 4 wins, 1 draw and 5 defeats. After 9 Wilko is on 4 wins, 1 draw and 4 defeats. I see Ye Brumkins already sees his lot as the underdogs. No sign of Wilkinson interview on Cobblers World - normally this is the full version of Adam B's Radio Northampton one. Being that Adam said he would tackle Wilkinson on his outragous comments has this interview been deemed to hot for the Official Site?
I also have to admit to worry if we win, if it buys time for a manager who does not convince me. I was under the impression that Hill and Wilkinson were meant to be a team and compliment each others strengths and weaknesses!
therealslimmartinw at 23:08:56 Friday September 26 2003
Do you know what pisses me off the most, lots, i know, but tomorrow we play an Ian Atkins side and I will be quite honest that I will want an Ian Atkins side to win if it means we can get shot of the Wilko. That's a totally shite state of affairs. When he Atkins took Chester down the same day we went up at Plainmoor I was singing and dancing on the pitch almost but not quite as much at Atkins misfortune as our fortune. I mean Atkins was dire in his final months with us and I loathed his smug I know better attitude that got us relegated that awful season. That Chesterfield game when we played for a draw when we needed a win to stay up and then got relegated still haunts me. Plainmoor than sunny Saturday in April or May was a glorious day. The day you could see we made the right decision in ditching Atkins and Wilson's freshapproach made the difference and got automatic promotion. It would be very ironic if an Atkins victory cost the current Cobblers incumbent his job. But he could do us a big favour. Would love it if Hunty came on. Smashing little player for us, he was. One thing's for sure, entertainment may not be on the cards at the Kassam. Lets hope it means Wilko kassams his job goodbye. Will be interesting to see the old players reaction to Wilko's "fringe players" shocking outburst. Wonder if Asa will get a chance after causing havoc for us against the Norwich Reserves. Chaaah! And Middlebill has a great vision for the club.
Anon at 22:16:24 Friday September 26 2003
Is that genuinely The home of franchise fc? I so hope it is. Come the winter they might get 1000 unless of course they keep charging £35 for away supporters to watch shite.
Gomez at 21:53:05 Friday September 26 2003
The ground below is Franchise FC. Do I win the polos? Looks OK in the autumn sunshine, but I wouldn't fancy sitting on one of those 3 uncovered stands on a cold, wet, windy November night, paying £30 for the privilege ... and I doubt many others will with the Dons rooted firmly to the bottom of the division ......
Name the ground below at 20:51:42 Friday September 26 2003
First answer wins a packet of polo mints
Middlebill at 20:44:08 Friday September 26 2003
It's a big club mate!
minky lart burger at 19:54:47 Friday September 26 2003
Middlebill at 19:39:44 Friday September 26 2003...........i know you
minky lart burger at 18:50:38 Friday September 26 2003
Two full english breakfasts for £4.50 bargin or what..........i know you
Bazza at 18:39:26 Friday September 26 2003
LH, Ive heard Luton might be after Ron Flowers.
minky lart burger at 18:26:32 Friday September 26 2003
Full english breakfast £3.75............i know you
LH at 16:36:28 Friday September 26 2003
If I was Luton I would snap Forrester up , his partnership with Howard
was our best & most balanced forward line for a long time.
Furious at 16:36:15 Friday September 26 2003
Can someone tell me since when Milton Keynes has been in Northants. There is a an article in the Chronicle today about Wimbledon and its not a small one either. Seems that the C&E are trying to get rid of us aswell now
Anon at 16:33:59 Friday September 26 2003
Yeah Forrester going to Hull seems to be a waste of a transfer doesnt it. He never plays and has only scored one goal for them
Anon at 16:28:22 Friday September 26 2003
Doubt if Forrester will be playing for Hull. They are looking to loan him out with Luton and Boston interested.
From the Times at 16:25:56 Friday September 26 2003
MK Mal, know what your saying - the suggestion that NTFC receives no support from MK was misplaced and maybe spoilt an otherwise well written article.
Kingsthorpe Clive at 16:20:35 Friday September 26 2003
You are a top bloke MKMal, no denying it! I don't have the same credentials as yourself but I've followed the Cobblers for 35 years with my wife and kids in tow. All season ticket holders and have visited virtually every ground in Divisions 2 & 3. But I will moan about the current manager and any other subsequent managers I feel are worth moaning about and I never boo the players. This blind faith that so many of you subscribe to amazes me! To be fair we haven't had that many really bad managers, Crerand, Flowers, Barton, Wilkinson all spring to mind and if they can't cut it they need to know it!!
MKMal at 15:56:25 Friday September 26 2003
From the Times: Did you realise that nearly a third of the Cobblers supporters come from MK. I have travelled from Stony Stratford to the Cobblers through thick and thin for over Forty years. First with my Dad and now I bring my son. When Dad couldn't bring me it was a bus to Wolverton station and then the train. Its a bloody long walk from Northampton Station to the County Ground, but I did it because I was a true Cobblers supporter and support the team no matter what division they are in or who the manager is.
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:44:54 Friday September 26 2003
Excellent. I'll look forward to that, a good game to catch! Hopefully Jamie won't score against us!
Hull at 15:29:24 Friday September 26 2003
We have Hull at Home, Blackpool. Good timing mate!
BlackpoolCobbler at 15:22:59 Friday September 26 2003
Are we at home a week tomorrow? I'm down in Northampton visiting my dad and would love to take in a game if possible!
Wiko Out at 15:21:18 Friday September 26 2003
We are already third choice on Radio Northampton, they always revciew the saints first, the R&D, then us and then Kettrin'. How the mighty fall!
United Front at 15:17:22 Friday September 26 2003
What the f**k is the Chronicle & Echo doing devoting a full page to a preview of Franchise FC's match tomorrow? Same with Anglia TV and I wouldn't be suprised if Radio Nton jumped on the bandwagon.
History Teacher at 14:20:50 Friday September 26 2003
Martin, your analogy falls flat when comparing Wilkinson to Blair. Wilkinson has to answer to the board and ultimately the Cardoza's before the fans. I'd go for Gordon Brown to make a better comparison if I were you. Better still, since we now know your stance, and respect it until you repeat it one time too many, how about some constructive discussion about what is actually happenning on the pitch, what specific tactics or individuals are not working, what tweaks might give us a killer touch, you and puzzled tag might get to enjoy going to football matches - it can become addictive.
A Childs View at 13:31:34 Friday September 26 2003
Just read the BBC web article on Sir Jack Hayward and Wolves - WHAT A BLOODY TOP BLOKE HE IS!!! Wolves have been very lucky to have him and I hope a miracle happens and they stay up in the premiership, this is purely on the basis that the old boy deserves to enjoy it!
A Childs View at 13:27:43 Friday September 26 2003
I like the below article, MK Dons is a sham - I won't even go and watch the Cobblers play there given that the money would go to them. The FA need to look at themselves and reflect on just how they've allowed this to happen, how on earth can it be the right decision? When the Cobblers play Wimbledon I think I'll forsake the match and go and watch AFC Wimbledon for the day as a mark of solidarity with the true heart of football. I've ambivalent feelings toward tomorrow, I'm not expecting much by way of entertainment or points but it'll be a good night out in Oxford whatever. Wilko out, Wilko out, Wilko out for all the reasons that have been stated on here before.
LH at 13:24:58 Friday September 26 2003
Sparko , It was my poor attempt to be a little light hearted.
Apologies , it wont happen again. Still ,looking forward to Slim Martins , (aka Tag ,sprinkler, Puzzled Dans) ray of sunshine post later.
From The Times at 12:59:02 Friday September 26 2003
How to help yourselves to a football club 80 miles away. It's a steal
By Martin Samuel, Sports Writer of the Year
A UNIQUE solution to a unique problem will finally be unveiled on Saturday. Or, as the match between Wimbledon and Burnley should more appropriately be tagged — “Stealing somebody’s club: the way forward for football in the 21st century”.
On a hockey field somewhere in the South Midlands, the club that ran away from their fans gets the chance to fulfil its loathsome destiny. Bottom of the Nationwide League first division (oh, joy) and still short of the 28,000-seat stadium that was part of the unique package placed before the dimwits at the Football League and Football Association, Wimbledon will limp 80 miles north, the pariahs of the professional game. Like all marriages of convenience, I’ll give it two years, tops.
Now that the battle to save Wimbledon in Wimbledon has been lost (although AFC Wimbledon soldier on, and more power to them), the saddest thing is to read about Burnley fans agonising over whether it is right or wrong to follow their team this weekend. Football supporting should not have come to this.
Many are justifiably outraged by the avaricious hike in ticket prices — up 25 per cent to £25 in the week of the match — others are opposed to franchised football. Some intend to go anyway and protest outside. Some will stay away. Some will breach the turnstiles reluctantly, others without a thought in their heads. “The biggest thing at stake is three points,” wrote a (thankfully) lone sage on the club website, bringing memories of Kate Lawler on Five reacting to news of al-Qaeda’s plot to blow up Brooklyn Bridge: “That would have been a shame — it’s such a lovely landmark.” But the majority understand.
There are a lot of bogeymen in this tale: the useless Charles Koppel and his Norwegian partners, whose joint financial acumen ruined the club; Sam Hammam, the former chairman, who stripped it; and Pete Winkelman, who entices impoverished football clubs to Milton Keynes, like Fagin corrupting street urchins. Yet one group has been allowed to escape unmolested: the people — the citizens of Milton Keynes, whose support for the project allowed a football club to be stolen from their loyal fans.
Listen to Winkelman, the architect of this odious scheme, and you’d be forgiven for thinking that Milton Keynes was an island off Orkney. His sales pitch is full of horror stories of children who can’t get into proper football schools run by league clubs without driving an hour in the car — what happened to the great road networks that are meant to make the place such an industrial catch? — and football-mad dads with nowhere to take their sons on Saturdays. One, I don’t believe it. And two, tough. When these families moved to Milton Keynes, a league club wasn’t in the brochure.
If it didn’t bother them then, why should it now? More to the point, why should it give Milton Keynes the right to nick a club from somebody else? Hey, Mr Newtown, shouldn’t you have thought this through before you parked the Mondeo on the drive of the four-bed detached? Ever wondered why not everybody wanted to go to Milton Keynes?
There’s this marvellous thing I’ve read about, called the M1. Milton Keynes, junction 14; Northampton, junction 15. That’s right, one stop. That’s what this unique solution is solving: the rabid football fans of Milton Keynes having to travel one junction on a motorway to find a league match. There’s even a service station in between. Milton Keynes southbound routes take junction 13 and Luton Town can be found via junction 11. So within four exits on the M1 there were two Football League clubs. And could the good people of Milton Keynes be bothered? Could they hell.
That’s why Wimbledon — MK Dons, Franchise FC, Pariah Argyle, or whatever name the club goes by now — will ultimately fail, even if novelty value makes Saturday’s match a sell-out (literally as well as morally).
There was a team called Milton Keynes City. Nobody cared about them. There were two teams up the road. Nobody could be bothered with them, either. And when the newness of Saturday football at a trumped-up hockey stadium has worn off, MK Quitters will go the same way as every other franchise that has relied on Mr and Mrs Newtown for support.
Because if these folk really cared about football, they would already be supporting Northampton Town. And looking at the gates, my guess is they’re not.
Sparko at 12:54:17 Friday September 26 2003
Ron Flowers? 60's? what, no, I had heard that we were looking at a player from Wolves to bring in on loan, but have heard nothing since earlier this week.
Tony Blair at 12:53:05 Friday September 26 2003
therealslimmartinw at 23:05:42 Thursday September 25 2003
"decided to close half the hospitals in the UK to cut costs, put taxes up by 50% and introduced a method of paying for local government that did not take into account ability to pay and refused a referendum on it," Who the hell told you our plans plans post the next election? It is supposed to be secret!
Bazza at 11:46:12 Friday September 26 2003
Flowers was big and strong but probably a bit slow by now he might be OK to stand in for Sammo though
LH at 11:07:44 Friday September 26 2003
Bazza , I too heard him @ 6.30 . First time heard Atko speak some sense. Said that by the end of season we will finish top three and that Wilko should be given time to make it happen.
Also is it true that Wilko has enquired about signing Ron Flowers from Wolves ?
Bazza at 10:59:06 Friday September 26 2003
below anon is me
Anon at 10:58:16 Friday September 26 2003
SPARKO 16.50.25, Ron Flowers was Cobbs player/manager late '60s, was ex Wolves. Did anyone hear Ian Atkins this morning on Rad Nmtn? He says we will finish top 3 and that the fans should be patient and allow the new players/team to get used to div3/each other/new club etc.
Mini Kit at 09:57:34 Friday September 26 2003
I popped into the "superstore" yesterday and they were just unpacking the new in car "mini kits". Someone on this board asked when they would be in. By the way they are cloth and are rather dangly not stiff like the old ones. Why did my good lady say that they reminded her of me?
Mustaq's Brother at 09:43:43 Friday September 26 2003
Why do people continue to have a go at people who, IN THEIR OWN OPINION, moan (I would prefer to call it (in some cases) showing their disappointment). Do these people live such blameless lives that they never moan about anything? Expectations at the Cobblers were high this season and surely a lot of fans have been disappointed with the way the Cobblers are now playing. As for "naming and shaming" I'd be very careful - because this site could easily get closed down by a "named and shamed" taking legal action. And I don't think the site owner would be that bothered about closing it these days.
Matt Scott at 09:03:56 Friday September 26 2003
Morning everyone...how are you?
minky lart burger at 07:27:28 Friday September 26 2003
Mullets...........i know you
R&DFC at 04:48:18 Friday September 26 2003
Well here's my prediction, as my previous 2 predictions have correctly predicted defeat ( didn't bother with Pompey ). The score wil be 3-1 to Oxford, I'm leaning towards 4-1. Get your bets on now, don't say I didn't tell you.
JC at 00:09:54 Friday September 26 2003
All,
doing a picde for the Yeovil Town fanzine "On To Victory" on supporter exciles. Do you have to travel MILES to see your team @ "HOME", why do you do it? any funny stories you could relate to the Football league new boys??
Any stories will be gratefully received, many thanks and good luck for the rest of the season, JC
Shouldn't be at 00:00:46 Friday September 26 2003
The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind. We will remind you of your 'non living in the past' future insight at the end of the season. or earlier.
therealslimmartinw at 23:56:03 Thursday September 25 2003
Poll Tax, You can take action over a Fib Dems, as you put it, proposal, but they dont have any governmental power at Westminster. So it aint likely to happen. It's a bit like TCMP suggesting that Asa should be in the first team, it aint gonna happen if Wilko says no.
therealslimmartinw at 23:53:04 Thursday September 25 2003
Incidentally, Asa is so crap that his dribbling skills won the reserves a pen and got a player sent off as we beat Norwich's second 11 2-1 and they had a decent side out. So not that bad.
Mushtaq at 23:19:03 Thursday September 25 2003
Lets all start thinking positively. Think lucky be lucky. I agree with the previous comments that the boo boys seat numbers should be posted here after each game. Your days are numbered. By the way hopefully people haven't purchased a copy of WALOC this week(What A Large Overweight Complainer). By the way the bloke in seat W189 is a village idiot.
Poll Tax at 23:12:53 Thursday September 25 2003
er rsm you say if Blair "put taxes up by 50% and introduced a method of paying for local government that did not take into account ability to pay and refused a referendum on it, would you say, well no point in doing anything about it, after all, he is the Prime Minister. No, I would think you would take action." Well the Fib Dems proposed this week to scrap Council tax and charge us all 3.5% local income tax. In other words £350 for every £10,000 quid you earn. For a couple on average joint income of £45,000 thats £1,575 a year and are we taking action?
ashcobb at 23:12:11 Thursday September 25 2003
Side for Saturday. Harper and then from right to left. Defense Chambers (superb against Pompey), Reid, Doig, Carruthers. Midfield Dudfield, Willmott, Trollope, Hargreaves with Richards and Youngs up front. Subs Thompson, Lowe, Burgess, Sampson, Asamoah. What do you think?
Should be at 23:07:18 Thursday September 25 2003
RSM should be a history teacher, after all examine the evidence. He repeats facts over and over and over again. Lives in the past. Has no grasp of the future. and walks around the website with a huge placard proclaiming "the end is nigh, we are all doomed" Sounds like every History teacher I ever had.
therealslimmartinw at 23:05:42 Thursday September 25 2003
History teacher, I have to say that's said quite a lot on here. You cannot change history, Wilkinson is manager, I should get used to it. Maybe it's just me but I always thought that if something was wrong, you change it, you don't put up with it just because it's there so you should. If, for example, Tony Blair decided to close half the hospitals in the UK to cut costs, put taxes up by 50% and introduced a method of paying for local government that did not take into account ability to pay and refused a referendum on it, would you say, well no point in doing anything about it, after all, he is the Prime Minister. No, I would think you would take action. If someone organised a demo like with the poll tax demos, you may feel strongly about it and protest. It's what people do when something happens that is fundamentally wrong. Ifyou were to say, martinw, Wilko is the right man for the job because of x, y and zee then fine. But to imply you cannot have strong views on Wilko, because he is the manager and so you have to accept him, strikes me as an extraordinary position. Nothing would ever change if you took that view and in politics, certainly, people would have power who would abuse it and never be questioned by the likes of yourself. Very odd position, I have to say and never understood why fans say that. It's not loyalty, because loyalty does not mean saying yes sir no sir three bags full sir. Very odd.
History Teacher at 22:52:16 Thursday September 25 2003
Martin, you cannot change history. Wilkinson is the Cobblers manager. I suggest you get used to it.
minky lart burger at 22:44:32 Thursday September 25 2003
Must eat...........i know you
Mushtaq at 22:25:25 Thursday September 25 2003
Hello fellow supporters. Looking foward to the game on Saturday. Come on cobblers !!!!
therealslimmartinw at 22:19:32 Thursday September 25 2003
Middlebill, I can tell you now that if we appoint someone with substance and credibility then you won't see me calling for his head after his first defeat. I think, maybe you are being a tad facetious there old chap. Oh and hi George - Bucks No1 Cobbler (allegedly he he) Well he was until I left Bucks. Did you not see Wilko's record? I would not have called him a muppet manager based just on this season. He has a history of being a loser, to put it bluntly and thats a hard habit to break even with all the money he has at his disposal. And he is continuing that trend although perhaps not to the extent that we saw in his previous games in the Second Division with us and his previous stints at Carlisle and Peterborough. Wilko now has a management career of 103 games under various clubs with 27 victories to his name (count them). That's one win in every four games. And it has always been like. And like his record for us this season draws are difficult to come by with just just 26 draws which tends to indicate that his sides are not stable. Which leaves us with 50 that's (FIFTY) defeats. Take that in, 103 games and 50 defeats. Where is the argument that he is the man for any management job except perhaps a Sunday league side. His record is not hidden away it was always in the public domain. My point has always been he has been given more than enough chances to prove himself, more than Derek Asamoah has, and has failed. Asamoah has shown promise in 20something matches that he has started. Yet Wilko says Asa is fringe, is a no go player. Then what does he say about himself with his record as a manager over more than 100 games. If Wilko was going to use the yardstick he has used on Asa, on himself, for showing far more talent as player as Wilko has shown as manager, then Wilko would never have had a sniff at the Cobblers, which he clearly shouldn't have and he would be left as a scout where his talents clearly lie.
Half Time Man at 21:44:02 Thursday September 25 2003
I left at half time, the ref ruined it, it was difficult enough playing against an inspired team, they were all up for it to show what they could do to try to get in the Premiership team, it was a non contest, the best part of the evening was the stink of the toilets as we paid to come in!! The policing was George Orwellian...
minky lart burger at 21:21:44 Thursday September 25 2003
Help me
Losing faith at 20:32:20 Thursday September 25 2003
Puzzled Dan and MartinW and Tag, it's very interesting how similar your views are, and your level of intolerance is almost identical. You could almost be the same person. As for the Cobblers, Wilkinson is pretty useless, I must agree with you, his PR qualities are zip, his lack of encouragement is alarming and his tactics often ill conceived. However, since being in charge, we havent got 2pts from 7 matches a la Fuckwit, we haven't lost 4-0 or 5-0 at home like Broads. There is great scope for improvement and I'm sure the board will be prompt to ring the changes should a slide occur. With the advancement of Dimones and MK franchise FC, now should be the time for fans of Northampton Town to get behind the Club and not on the backs of individuals such as Wilco or the players or indeed fellow supporters of our favourite team.
pete hendridge at 20:15:00 Thursday September 25 2003
You old fireman you..............so there
Atkins at 19:48:15 Thursday September 25 2003
I'm back
Pompey Messageboard at 19:14:46 Thursday September 25 2003
"Excellent turn-out by the cobblers (c. 1,000) for a mid-week league cup game with an injury ravaged squad. So clap clap clap. In fact a better turn-out by us than I thought, so well done to PFC for kids for £3.
Shame about the sending-off , more or less ended the game as a contest after 10 minutes, but the ref really had no choice.
Other than that , I thought it was a crap game to be really honest."
"Don't agree about it beong a crap game.Not the most exciting though as you over when the guy was sent of.Ref no choice.
Northampton fans were excellent, glad they got a couple of goals"
Pompey Messageboard at 18:33:57 Thursday September 25 2003
"After losing a man so early last night, it would have been very easy for them to get as many men behind the ball as possible to try and keep the score down.
At least they kept trying to play, admittedly on the break, but they didn't have too many other options.
It could have been a dire game if they had just lined up along their penalty area for the rest of the game though.
And they brought a good following with them as well."
Can't Wait at 18:17:42 Thursday September 25 2003
Nosey Parker, I can't wait for your bus to leave for Milton Keynes!! In fact if Franchise FC take afew more plastic whinging fans with them then perhaps they will do us a favour by being just down the road. Oh by the way np Wimbledons record this year is played 9 lost 8 drawn 1 points 1. Sounds like you are will have plenty yo moan about, you two deserve each other.
Middlebill at 18:00:55 Thursday September 25 2003
Bye bye Nosey parker. I'd like to say what a pleasure it has been to listen to your interesting and well informed views. That's what I'd like to say. Obviously I can't. Enjoy your new team and please don't come back. I think it's better that way.
Anon at 17:49:48 Thursday September 25 2003
Good riddance...
fao Nosey Parker at 17:44:07 Thursday September 25 2003
Cheerio cheerio cheerio, cheerio cheerio cheerio-o, cheerio cheerio cheerio, cheerio-o, CHEER-RI-O.
tada then at 17:13:36 Thursday September 25 2003
yep, see you then nosey parker, cheerio, on your way, adios, can you leave any earlier? you and your new plastic club are well matched. Can you take tag and rsm and all the other whinging gits with you? Oh and see you next year in the 2nd.
Nosey Parker at 17:10:19 Thursday September 25 2003
I have just bought a proper clubs season ticket along with 2 other people SICK of the Cobblers. Guess what as well. . . .talking to 4 othe rpeople their ALL from Northampton saying the same thing.
Team is as shit as this site
Sparko at 16:50:25 Thursday September 25 2003
What's going on with the Wolves player?
Middlebill at 15:36:56 Thursday September 25 2003
Anon at 14:29:42 Thursday September 25 2003
How about Steve MacMahon? Brian Talbot? Thanks for that, it did make me laugh!
Bazza at 15:18:39 Thursday September 25 2003
Yes
LH at 15:15:09 Thursday September 25 2003
Was that the Flowers who played for Wolves ?
Bazza at 15:08:30 Thursday September 25 2003
Ron Flowers, 66 world cup squadie. Took over as player manager in.. umm.. about...1968ish,I think.
LH at 15:00:29 Thursday September 25 2003
Who ? dont remember him .
Bazza at 14:59:18 Thursday September 25 2003
Ron Flowers
LH at 14:52:48 Thursday September 25 2003
Theo Foley , Tony Barton........ we could go on.
Anon at 14:29:42 Thursday September 25 2003
How about Steve MacMahon? Brian Talbot? They all fit the criteria. They've both done a fine job. Set your sights high and get a manager that not only can get us promoted but sustain us in division one too.
Middlebill at 14:24:14 Thursday September 25 2003
Add to that Pat Crerand! I rest my case.
Treenie at 14:16:35 Thursday September 25 2003
Hotel Ender - No it was actually the other way round. I got bored of the news of the world so decided to read the crap on here. This is more amusing though. At least you don't get a full page match report on the direones EVERY WEEK on here.
Bazza at 14:10:04 Thursday September 25 2003
Grim, so your ideal manager would be someone like...umm..err.. I know! Terry Fenwick!!
Bazza at 14:03:07 Thursday September 25 2003
As I said earlier, who would come with our record of sackings?
Bazza at 14:01:47 Thursday September 25 2003
Grim, just look at last season. If we had stuck with Broads and given him the sort of finance Wilko has had, I think we would have stayed up. What good did it do having a new manager every time things started to go wrong? It got us relegated!
Grim at 14:00:20 Thursday September 25 2003
The kind of manager I would like should ideally have played at the highest level. Perhaps played for an international manager a club level and represented his country too. Add to that some domestic honours like the championship, FA Cup and the occasional European trophy. Only ten would we know we have a manager who knows what it takes and we would also know we have a manger that can command the respect of the players and the fans.
Grim at 13:54:08 Thursday September 25 2003
I would never advocate booing players Bazza as much as I would never advocate publcly berating supporters and players alike on local radio. Sacking Wilko will take us back to square one? I don't agree, I actually think sacking him would be a step forward. (So long as they don't give Hill the job).
Bazza at 13:45:38 Thursday September 25 2003
Whatever your opinion of the manager the "supporters" should back the players and shout for the team not demotivate them by booing. I am not convinced by Wilko by any means but sacking him now just takes us back to square one.
Raymond at 13:41:56 Thursday September 25 2003
Fancy a pint? I'll get me coat!
Grim at 13:41:26 Thursday September 25 2003
Yes that's all very well Raymond but what is his background, his pedigree, his track record?
Raymond at 13:40:30 Thursday September 25 2003
That's a boit strong Grim. Give the man a chance. He is the manager so get behind him. He's a good scout. He ran a very good indoor cricket school. I like the cardigans he wears. All in all he is a decent chap.
Grim at 13:38:02 Thursday September 25 2003
Exactly the point! Wilko is wishy-washy-mamby-pamby-hoity-toity-lardy-dee-dardy-scouty-wouty-rubbishy-useless-toomuchlike me favourite uncle sack him now!!
Paul at 13:35:35 Thursday September 25 2003
Nobody?
Paul at 13:34:32 Thursday September 25 2003
Hands up all those who are inspired by Martin Wilkinson's radio interviews.
DEK at 13:32:56 Thursday September 25 2003
People say Wilko is a good scout out of kindness rather than fact. How many of his signings have been a great success? Remember he recommended Stamp, what talent has he unearthered? A good scout finds players that will blend into the team, even after 13 signing this season we still have no blend nor balance. What type of tem are we? We cannot pass, move and play real football and we are not lump it up, in your face hardmen, therefore we are still failing to create a team.
DEK at 13:26:22 Thursday September 25 2003
Give Wilko time? He has been at the club for about 3 years and in that time we have survived relegation twice by the skin of our teeth and then relegated BOTTOM of the league. We have been the division' lowest scorers for three seasons. This season in Division THREE do not forget, we have not had a good convincing win, either by result or performance. Our home record shows 6 games & 5 goals, from a manager who promised goals and attacking football yet calls fans thick cos they are not happy when we choose the corner flag rather than the goal. Lacks of goals is why Wilko should go.
Bazza at 12:45:56 Thursday September 25 2003
Wilko may not be the long term answer to all our prayers but who would want the job with our record? It's hardly the most secure position in an industry where security is non-existant for most managers as the best of times is it? If we can start to pick up a few points away from home it'll buy him some time - home record of 4W 1D & 1L with only one goal conceeded stands up to any statistical scrutiny - and Saturday is a crunch game.
George - Bucks No1 Cobbler at 12:37:28 Thursday September 25 2003
Have to agree with RSMW et al. BAGMAN OUT. I was willing to give him a chance and I have - and my conclusion - hes a muppet manager. Dont get me wrong hes seems to be a good scout - he brought in some good players by all accounts. By how can he stay in the job? Publicly slating the fans by calling them thick. Publicly attacking indivuduals. Like Ive said before when was the last time Rickers turned a game with 20 mins to go (No offense Rickers). Even in the Dug-out the man is useless, no support no passion (except when we score a goal - but then who doesnt get passionate?).Why sign Tom Smith then bring in a loan signing to cover his position? Why sign Greg Lincoln? Ive heard about strenght in depth but hes been no where near the 1st team. Why sell Stampy? OK I though Stamp was a donkey. Sow hy not send him out on loan to the conference let him get his confidence back and his scoring head/boots on. then bring him back. If he was crap then seel him if he goes away and scores a hatful ask him why etc? what can the club do. I remember a certain Mr Beckham going on loan to Preston a few years back, where is he now....? We now do not have the option of a target man to bring on. Ive tried to be supportive, Ive even put money on us going up thsi year, and we might - however the only way we can do that is getting rid of the Bagman and advertising and appointing an external manager. WILKO OUT
Hotel Ender at 10:49:17 Thursday September 25 2003
Treenie @ 19:38:10 - sorry you've not been well. I see you swapped the crap on here for the same in the NOTW. Maccers keeper could have got back on the bus in the second half.
Bazza at 10:22:55 Thursday September 25 2003
Anyone hear GDS on Radio 5 yesterday? He says he wants to sign Edgar Davids for Dundee!
Anon at 10:20:22 Thursday September 25 2003
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.
The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Fcuknig amzanig huh?
Anon at 10:17:46 Thursday September 25 2003
FACT: MWs record at NTFC: Played 25, Won 7 Lost 14 Drawn 4. Doesn't look like a dash up the league tome.
Bexxy at 10:16:06 Thursday September 25 2003
Hello Folks!!
Have you missed my input the last few days? (No, thought not!)
Nice to see we're all still moaning anyway.... (NOT!)
Bazza at 08:51:16 Thursday September 25 2003
Now that Wilmott is fit, will he be played in midfield as Wilko has suggested? A back 4 of CC/Doig, Doig/Sammo, Reid, Chambers. Midfield? Wilmott, Trolly, Low, Hargreaves/Harsley/Burgess with Youngs and Duds up front?
TREVOUR at 08:50:07 Thursday September 25 2003
I WONDER HOW THE CONVERSATION WENT BETWEEN BARRY STONHILL, CHRIS SMITH AND IAN ATKINS ?????. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN A FLY ON THE WALL.
Middlebill at 07:38:04 Thursday September 25 2003
Nice sentiment Jamie but this is Northampton we are talking about. I don't care how good the next manager is, you'll still get somebody on here calling for his head at the first defeat.
village boy at 07:33:08 Thursday September 25 2003
jimttc, you must be a member of the local gossip club.
Pihuan at 07:05:14 Thursday September 25 2003
So Wilko put his foot in his mouth again, he really needs a Reagan style assistant to come in with "what Wilko meant was that---". He's done it before, he'll do it again. It's not that important, one hopes that he's sorted it out with Asamoah. I was disappointed with what he said, thought it wasn't fair to call Asa on the basis of 20 mins in a game when none of our side had much idea. But if I'm honest I can't really see him being a 90 minute player though he is a potentially devastating option to have on the bench, and one that we could afford in these days of squad football. Saddened to see that during the Pompey game the boo boys only appeared interested in this gaffe rather than the game, which despite being a heavy defeat actually ended up not too bad. More positives than negatives. But the negatives seem to rule on here just now, and if we lose to Sir Ian's boys on sat I suppose they will build up to a crscendo. Well, I hope our boys do well and shut some of you up for a while. It's too too easy to be negative.
jamie at 01:10:14 Thursday September 25 2003
i am not anti wilko yet i am not pro wilko but i am prepared to accept that he is our manager. if only there were more like me!. anyway, he has got us to where we are currently in the table.as it stands we are under perfoming on paper, on the pitch too it is the same
story,basically we are woeful.however that is due to not only managers descisions but also players perfomances. the only time i considered wilko's position is when i watched the local news the other week and seen the confidence colchester have in their manager,basically he can do no wrong. oh what i would give for a figure to be worshiped! even atkins achievments(admirable though they were) were succumb to critisiscm. wilko may ride the storm and prove the doubters wrong but my gut feeling is that his days are numbered,how do i reach this descision? well jealousy basically, i want a manager that we adore and think really has the ability to take us forward. and to be honest having the credentials of being 'a nice bloke' aint enough. im not gonna start chanting 'wilko out' as i believe that every dog should have it's day, lets hope wilko has the 'BITE' neccessary to take us onward and upwards.
Anon at 00:25:44 Thursday September 25 2003
good post glenn.
Glenn at 00:24:03 Thursday September 25 2003
I'm still in the '10 game camp' and it's all very exciting for us because the 10th game is coming up and soon we'll have to make a decision as to which way our opinions lie. We can go up with MW in charge - we are, as has been pointed out, not far from the top - and we have, in my opinion, underperformed, so there's no reason not to be optimistic, and we should all get behind the manager and the team, etc etc. But you can't argue with TRSMW's (repeated) point - I don't think that MW could take anyone to the first division. What is making me, and perhaps many others waver towards the TRSMW point of view is that the football on offer isn't very entertaining. As a Northampton Town fan, you can suffer that as long as the results are OK (ref Atkins era) but will show displeasure if they're not.
Anon at 00:14:01 Thursday September 25 2003
I hear Harper made some good stops.Just as well,what was hedoing for the 1st and 3rd goals?
therealslimmartinw at 23:18:39 Wednesday September 24 2003
Just read Andy Turner's comments. Cant really add to what Puzzled Dan has said except.... thanks for paying me the great honour of your most kindly considered response. I am pleased you have faith in Martin Wilkinson... we will see where that gets us. The reason I go on about Wilkinson is because he is the manager of the side while his credentials are appalling and it is not good enough to say well he is the manager and we have to accept it. Sorry to repeat that again, but you asked for it. And also, forgive me if I am wrong, but i think we have heard your argument put before as well, its not convincing, not much content to it, would love it to convert me to the Wilkinson appreciation society but its just lacking in many things. Firstly, facts. You havent put a strong argument for his leadership quialities, you havent put a strong argument for his management credentials and you havent said anything about whether you think his slatingof our old squad and in particular Asa is a good thing. Clearly your view is that it is a good thing and that he was the best manager available at the time he was appointed. The fact is he just wasnt. That's not an opinion this time (for the benefit of LH) but pure fact. The fact we havent conceded a goal at home is, well, not going to fill most people with a great thrill of anticipation for the next game, now, is it. Northampton Town: We lose as many as we win. What a great advert. AT, don't become a marketing man. Shame really AT. You are trying. Very trying. Someone might take you seriously one day. One day. Keep trying.
Puzzled Dan at 23:00:15 Wednesday September 24 2003
Andy Turner Fan Club, i have 2 say if u havent read beyond the second line of slims posting, ow cum u know so much about it. Prats like you spoil CC. I get tired with ur rambling pro Wilko dross probably as much as u hate those who as u put it put 4ward the same argument over againg, but don't moan until now. Can u not just fucking accept taht people have a different vue and can express it. if they feel strongly enuff about it 2 cum on all the time sobeit. Ok I am an empathiser but only coz i have always thot he has a slim, tag and now childsview and rob have a strong argument. slim's been at it from the end of last season + has had a hard time about it only 2 find that the longer the season goes on he is being proved rite. Please lets all stop getting personal at each other coz we have a different view. Mine is in defence, i should say. Anon's comments that we r "stuck with Wilkinson" are hardly a glowing recommendation, r they? My vue for wot its worth is that while we are crying out for some stability, Wilkinson, 4 the good of the forward progress of the team as to go. +yes it is a serious enuff issue for some to warrant repetition especially when he has a go at a large contingent of our squad. so the upshot is Andy Turner ur a twat.
Andy Turner Fan Club at 22:37:19 Wednesday September 24 2003
Nothing new then rsmw, I get the feeling I've seen your opinions somewhere before, if only I could remember where. I'll be honest, I never read past the 2nd line of your last posting, the content doesn't change, the arguemennt doesn't get any stronger. The current situation as I see it at the Cobblers, so far this season we have won as many games as we have lost, haven't conceded a goal at home for a few games, and have some class players now wearing Claret. Whatever Wilko's past form before this season, the playing record so far this season is not sacking material. I never expected 12 new players to click straight away, and that is now hampered by some injuries. We are 6 points behind the division leaders, with 37 games left to go. Get behind the Cobblers, don't be a boo boy.
MK Cobbler at 21:57:19 Wednesday September 24 2003
I am glad and relieved I am not alone.
Anon at 21:55:54 Wednesday September 24 2003
Let's face it, Wilko was put in charge to steady the ship after the fiasco of sacking Broadhurst and replacing him with the half wit Fenwick. If the Cardozas had been in charge, instead of that prat Ellis, from the start, and had given Broadhurst a bit of financial support to bring in players, we would never had got relegated. Now we're stuck with Wilko who, despite his honest intentions, does appear to lack the tactical know how (and also Hill by the looks of it), the man management skills, the contacts, etc .... I will support Wilko and the team but give me Broadhurst with a few bob to spend any day.
jimttc at 21:32:12 Wednesday September 24 2003
I was lucky enough to have a pass into the players bar last night and guess who was in there getting on like a house on fire before the game and at half-time: Barry Stonhill, Chris Smith & wait for it....... Ian Atkins.
Middlebill at 21:26:18 Wednesday September 24 2003
So yet another person calling me without any grounds. This time TRSMW who says i jump on bandwagons. Come on then, prove it. Back up your accusations. You can go back on here ages so cut and paste an article that shows me jumping on a bandwagon. You wont because you can't. My problem with you TRSMW is that you play the same tune every bloody day. We know what you think. Saying it over and over and over again doesn't make the argument any stronger. It is the Cardoza's that have saved this club and it is them thaty will decide if and when Martin Wilkinson will be relieved of his duties. Until such time I will go on supporting the club in all its guises. And, when a new man does arrive, I will support him as well because believe it or not, that's what supporters do!
Sparko at 20:40:11 Wednesday September 24 2003
Mushtak abdul abubul Amir!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Treenie at 20:35:03 Wednesday September 24 2003
Plus just because you haven't heard of me doesn't mean I can't give my opinion.
Treenie at 20:30:04 Wednesday September 24 2003
No I'm nothing to do with MK thank you very much
I wasn't saying that Martin Wilkinson said was right. Yes, he should've kept his opinions to himself. He may be paid to motivate the players but surely he's also allowed to give his opinions on his own players (probably not on local radio though). Also I didn't say that you couldn't boo the team. If that's what you want to pay money for then it's your choice but personally myself I pay money to watch football and support the team I love.
Puzzled Dan at 20:02:59 Wednesday September 24 2003
Good onya Rob. I have 2 say that the pro Wilkinston brigade r becoming less credible by the second. Treenie, never heard of you, probably a psuedonym for MK, having concluded that wilkinson's comments r no worse than people booing the team off at half time,how can u say that vindicates what he did? Its worst that Wilko says it because heis payed 2 motivate the players. Fans pay money if they dont like something have every right to moan. God. How perverse is that. Also nobod expected us 2 win at Pomp but at least we could have managed to give them a contest. Instead it was game over after quarter of an hour. R u really proud of that? Also as a defender of realslim, if the poster below thinks his post is unreadable then he needs to take english lessons. Well said slim... again!!!
if you want someone to read a post at least attempt to make it readable, that last post was about three paragraphs too long to make it sensible. Thank you.
Treenie at 19:38:10 Wednesday September 24 2003
MK Cobbler - you're not alone. We (the fans) should be getting behind the team, the management and the board. How are wilko's comments any worse than people booing the team off at half time on saturday. Not sure whether anyone else noticed (I've been ill the last few days and couldn't be bothered to read the crap on here) but in the News Of The World on sunday Macclesfield's goalkeeper got in the team of the day. Surely we must have been testing him for him to be noticed. Also did anyone actually expect us to win last night. By the sounds of it we didn't play that badly considering we were down to ten men.
Let's cheer the lads on to win at Oxford and get one over on Atkins.
COME ON COBBLERS
F.A.O. Realslim etc etc etc at 19:30:44 Wednesday September 24 2003
if you want someone to read a post at least attempt to make it readable, that last post was about three paragraphs too long to make it sensible. Thank you.
therealslimmartinw at 19:08:23 Wednesday September 24 2003
GOBSMACKED: Firstly in response to Middlebill, I have strong views thats it, everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone has the right to disagree fundamentally. Certain things like Wilko being one of the worst managers we could ever have picked are borne by fact. Comment based on fact. Facts that are not hidden away but are available if you look at his management stats rather than talking as some people on here do, off the top of their head. The kind of argument that says we should support Wilko, because we should, is not based on any kind of what I consider to be rational thought. And LH, I could start every post by saying 'in my opinion' but most, i say MOST people, have the intelligence to understand that to be the case. And yeah, I say it as I see it. And I am prepared to stick my neck out unlike some on here who say one thing and then jump on other bandwagons when it suits them (stand up Middlebill). Sorry but thats me. And as for MK Cobbler, your getting tired and fed up of debate only deserves one response.. why are you on here. Look at the title "Cobblers Comments". Thats what its about. Dont read or dont participate if you dont like it. Its simple. But it doesnt further your argument by producing personal abuse of people for saying things you don't agree with. I am sure you are a very loyal fan and I am sure you wear you long service badge with pride but it doesnt make your arguments any more valid because of that, if that is what you are implying. Saying that Atkins was the best manager we ever had based on his final ten games in charge, would be wrong. Not an argument there, totally wrong. (For the benefit of LH, "in my view) But in all honesty nobody would disagree. So how could anyone not look at Wilko's record as a manager at other clubs and with us before he was appointed and actually say it was a good one. Because it was appalling. It beggars belief that he was appointed and nobody has yet put forward an argument that has convinced me otherwise. And believe me if someone put forward a convincing argument on that score I might have changed my view. But having looked into it and hearing all the arguments its not rocket sicence to work out he is probably one of the Top 20 worst football league managers ever, based on results, which is, lets face it, managers are judged by. I will support the Cobblers the best way I can through thick and thin, I am no different when it comes to passion for the club anyone who knows me knows that. I remember the first game I went to and have always been a football fan, but going to my first and seeing Higgs score twice was the catalyst. I dont have the years, forgive me for that, but when things are right, believe it or not I will shout it from the roof tops, when things are not right, I think it is absurd to say no, everything is okay, Wilko is the manager and bury my head in the sand. Bury your head in the sand, and you suffocate. Quite how you cannot see that you can support a team and still have major issues with the manager is beyond me. Nobody is saying that Wilko should be Ferguson or Wenger, that's clearly daft. But the manager of Northampton Town Football Club should be competent and if he has a track record, it should be a good one. Not a shocking one, as his is. You can have the best players in the third division, and for god sake with our resources and previous squads, we should have, now, but that is not going to work without tactical nouse, an ability to keep the players unified and communication skills and some kind of man management ability, which Wilko lacks in abundance. What big name would be attracted by Wilko. Would we have got a Gabby under Wilko? His reputation is poor and we have the transfer budget of this club in the hands of someone whose CV is worse than substandard. If you think that's a sensible option, then I don't know where you are coming from. Steve Cotterill would be a great pick up, but methinks with his cv, he might be looking for a bigger club than us. Nevertheless, if we showed we had the financial clout, money may well talk. Steve Cotterill... if we are seriously ambitious, why not. Appointing Wilko and sticking with gives mixed messages. We have the money but not to bring competent manager?? That's peculiar.
Rob at 16:14:55 Wednesday September 24 2003
Thanks LH, I have to say it is a pleasant suprise to see so many people disagree with me !, all I can say is I hope that you are right. The fact is that we can't win every game, we won't play great every week but lets see some improvement this weekend. My personal opinion is that Oxford are flattered by their position and like us are struggling to score, we've got better players so lets go and out play them off the pitch, one thing we'll know for sure is that they'll have all 11 back for corners !
Badger at 15:54:30 Wednesday September 24 2003
MK Cobbler...... You are not alone....I have supported the Cobbs from 1966 through think and thin (mostly thin) The Cardozas will decide when Wilco is to go, not any of us on this here.
Vintage Cobbler at 15:22:44 Wednesday September 24 2003
MK you are not alone.
LH at 14:56:22 Wednesday September 24 2003
I respect your opinion Rob but progress & success doesnt always follow on from changing the Manager. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesent ie: Fenwick & Cotteril @ Sunderland. Give Wilko more time & patience then and lets see what develops , judge hime after that.
Rob at 14:46:57 Wednesday September 24 2003
I agree with that Sparko, I have never jeered or booed at a game, and never will. I am purely offering my opinion with regard to the club and Martin Wilkinson, nothing would have pleased me more than to see the team achieve success under his leadership, I would still like to see that. I am however concerned that we are regressing, not progressing, and I am not convinced that Martin Wilkinson will turn that situation around. My opinion is simply that rather than drag this situation out for another 6-8 weeks, decisive action should be made now. You're welcome to disagree, that is just my belief.
LH at 14:41:01 Wednesday September 24 2003
MK, Cobbler . Your not alone , most of want you said are my sentiments exactly and I also have been supporting for over 30 years.
For the record I would like Wilko to succeed because I want to see the Club do well & get promoted . YES He is a PR nightmare , because he is speaks his mind. YES He dosent seem to always know what his best team is. YES We should of advertised for the managers job end of last season. But he is the Manager and has attracted some very good players to the club and I would like him given time to make a success of it. Ten games into the season is not time enough to judge. Wilko has promised Promtion , so if by Jan/Feb we are not going to make it then I,m sure he will acknowledge failure & bow to the inevitable.
IMHO at the moment Wilko is the best method for the Cobblers to gain
promtion thats why he has my support.
Sparko at 14:25:53 Wednesday September 24 2003
Rob, you may well be correct, but it's not you or any other fans that will make the decision. So for the meantime concentrate your efforts on trying to influence the results by cheering your side.
Middlebill at 14:20:04 Wednesday September 24 2003
No your not alone MKCobbler. Agree entirely. Some of the people on here can't stand it if you don't agree with their own point of view. It's like a dictatorship. They are now pretending you say something you haven't just so they can respond. It's pathetic really.
MK Cobbler at 14:12:54 Wednesday September 24 2003
I hope that I am not alone but I am getting tired and fed up of this site being using as a sounding board for the likes of A Childs View and RSMW and their anti-Wilkinson rhetoric. I support the Cobblers through thick and thin and have done so for 30+ years. You get behind the players and the management because only one thing matters and that is supporting a winning team. To suggest that you can get behind the players but isolate and snipe at the manager is nonsense, complete and utter, and I am sick and tired of the constant one theme postings from the Usual Suspects. Wilko is not Ferguson or Wenger but he is no fool. The players he has brought in are a vast improvement on the journeymen that soaked up our wage bill. Read is probably our best player in a generation and he wouldn't have come here if it was not for his mentor Wilko. Add to that Willmott and Smith. I hope that the Cardozas don't visit this site because I would be appalled that the site for supporters is inhabited by "know alls" who know nothing. Am I alone?
Middlebill at 14:05:53 Wednesday September 24 2003
Further more (Childs View), just where did I say you shouldn't comment if you weren't there? I'll tell you where, NOWHERE!
Sean at 14:04:36 Wednesday September 24 2003
sorry for sending it 3 times
Middlebill at 14:03:56 Wednesday September 24 2003
The fact that I stated that this was my first away game of the season makes the rest of your argument invalid. Don't keep trying to put words in my mouth. (Are you puzzled Dan in disguise) Due to work commitments, I only go to away games that have a special meaning to me, usually because I haven't been to that particular ground. Of all the league clubs, the only teams I have not been to belong to Leeds United (never got around to it) and Kidderminster and Boston. Something I intend to rectify this season. I will be at Oxford on Saturday because they have a new ground, though I have been to Oxford to see the Cobblers on several occasions.
Sean at 14:02:54 Wednesday September 24 2003
Simon re results Have a look at http://www.footballsite.co.uk.
Details of our Division One year of miracles is at
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season1965-66/ClubResults/1965-66NorthamptonTown.html
Sean at 14:02:47 Wednesday September 24 2003
Simon re results Have a look at http://www.footballsite.co.uk.
Details of our Division One year of miracles is at
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season1965-66/ClubResults/1965-66NorthamptonTown.html
Sean at 14:02:45 Wednesday September 24 2003
Simon re results Have a look at http://www.footballsite.co.uk.
Details of our Division One year of miracles is at
http://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/LeagueTables/Season1965-66/ClubResults/1965-66NorthamptonTown.html
A Childs View at 13:51:54 Wednesday September 24 2003
Good post Rob, the only problem we have as fans is that the defeats need to come otherwise the manager won't be gotten rid off. The secret is don't attack the players, give them our every backing and encouragement as individuals and direct the frustration at Wilko instead. Sad fact of football, it has to get worse before it can get better.
A Childs View at 13:47:32 Wednesday September 24 2003
Middlebill - your first away game and you come all high and mighty about don't comment unless you're at the game. What a cheek! The vast majority of contributors on here are not slating the performance, I didn't go so wouldn't know, rather, we are criticising our muppet of a manager - I feel allowed to do that based on having seen 3 away games and every home game this season, my humblest apologies for not going to Pompey though, it's just that travelling that distance and spending that money for more of Wilko's dross is not an attractive prospect. Mushtaq - have you really fallen for Wilko's nonsense about I'm sure we'll go up this year? If we actually get promoted this season under Wilko I promise to wear a Rubbish & Dustbins shirt in the West Stand for the whole of next year! I admire your dedication, as fans we do need to be patient, but, there's no point sticking with something as wrong as Wilko - you can't polish a turd! Wilko out, Wilko out, Wilko out!
Rob at 13:42:54 Wednesday September 24 2003
After criticising the 'anti MW' brigade, TRSMW and Tag for not giving Wilkinson a chance, I have to hold my hand up and say it appears that they were right all along. I always maintained that I was defending him, not because I felt he was the best choice for manager, but because he did at least deserve to be given a chance to show us progress with the squad he put together. I feel that he has now had that chance, are we making progress, No, was Saturday any better than the home game against Torquay, No not really, okay we got a point but we certainly didn't play any better, can anybody honestly say that MW is getting the best out of the squad, I believe not. Aside from that his public image is poor, and his tactical philosophy appears to be changeable. Add to that the public criticism of players, which whether factually correct or not is beyond the point, I believe that we have a problem. In my opinion we should court the attention of Steve Cottrell and persuade MW to take a position upstairs. Cottrell might cost, but I would imagine that he would relish the oppurtunity to enhance his reputation by steering a club upwards with the support of some financial backing. All of this should be done soon, asap, because results can make these decisions difficult.
Having said all of that, any discontent with the team, manager, tactics etc should be left until after the final whistle and we should all get on with supporting the team during the games, we should accept that the pressure the supports have applied to MW, has maken his life more difficult and undoubtedly affected the confidence of the team, MW just hasn't been competent enough, or skilled enough to withstand it and guide his team.
Sean at 13:41:57 Wednesday September 24 2003
Simon - Have you looked at www.soccerbase.com - not sure how far back they go
ALL GO TO OXFORD! at 13:41:24 Wednesday September 24 2003
Lets ALL go to Oxford and cheer the lads on against Atkins' side, i want to see at least 1200 cobblers fans there, make yourselves heard!
Sean at 13:40:48 Wednesday September 24 2003
To Simon & info wanted on Cobblers games played in the mid to late 60's.
Basically up to 1965 we won a lot of games - for the rest of the sixties we lost a lot. Hope this is useful
Sparko at 13:33:30 Wednesday September 24 2003
United front - you want and try to tell that to the fickle fans on a Saturday afternoon who boo and slow handclap their team. I think Wilko is right Asamoah is not good enough. He belongs back at Slough Town were he came from. Harsley is not good enough either. I think the all managerial changes over the last couple of years has gone to the fans heads, now they think they can influence the sacking of their manager within the first month of a new season if a few results don't go our way. Wilko is the man, the players he's bought in are the players and its time for a bit of stability at the club, so get behind them!!
United Front at 13:19:43 Wednesday September 24 2003
It doesn't take a genius to realise that slagging off your fringe players may have a detrimental effect on their morale, and before anyone suggests that this is Wilko's attempt at reverse psychology, I think you are giving him a bit too much credit. Look at Harsley's body language and demeanour this season, and whenever Asamoah has come on a sub this season he looks scared to death of losing the ball, instead passing square all the time. The key to Asa is his total unpredictability and his searing pace. He has something that noone else at the club (including Low) lacks and this could be a valuable weapon if coached effectively. Wilko's comments hint that he and the coaching staff have given up on him which is scandalous.
LH at 12:44:11 Wednesday September 24 2003
Slim martin a question for you. How do you know that Wilko demotivates players ? How do you know he has 'lost' the dressing room?
Or did you mean to say 'in my opinion....'
Anon at 12:17:27 Wednesday September 24 2003
Middlebill he is on loan from Aston Villa
Simon at 11:46:37 Wednesday September 24 2003
Anyone know where on the web I can find a history of all Cobblers games played? I'm after info on Cobblers games played in the mid to late 60's. Many thanks...
Middlebill at 11:45:56 Wednesday September 24 2003
How about putting in for a bid for the Macclesfield goalie. He looked very good and is on loan there from (I can't remember) but is probably surplus to requirements.
Edward Barnes at 11:41:25 Wednesday September 24 2003
I ate two whole pizza at the Silverstone Cricket presentation evening. Ha Ha!
therealslimmartinw at 11:37:55 Wednesday September 24 2003
Ironic with all the talk about Hoddle losing the dressing room with England by publicly slating certain players, including Beckham for that kick and doing the same while at Spurs, that we should have an identical situation here with Martin Wilkinson. I am actually surprised that he would be so dismissive of Asa and of the players of last season when he has to rely on them. Talk about a dressing room that must be unhappy. Harper may have let the side down with two goals as one correspondent but just how motiviated is he anyway when he is sidelined as part of the old squad at the start of the season who are apparently not good enough. Look at the side put out yesterday and most are players that were in the squad last season. Players that Wilko dismisses as no more than "fringe". How to lose a dressing room in one easy move. I actually would not have credited Wilko for doing something like this. Tactically inept, yes. But I have never heard any stories of him treating players as abysmally as he has publicly. Clearly not fit to manage any club, not just because of his record, not just because of his inept tactics but because he demotivates players. He must go.
The Drilling Cobbler at 11:32:56 Wednesday September 24 2003
Fair point - wasnt aware of that. Although switching Chambers to the centre still meant that Harsley was made to play at rightback and Youngs was made to play in midfield. Result - a very unbalanced team! Probably resulting in at least 2 of Portsmouths goals. The defending from the corner was shambolic (only Wilmott had a prescence), the lack of understanding resulting in the 4th goal again another good example. Sammo's biggest problem is lack of pace -and Teddy would not have beaten him for it. I know it doesnt really matter because we would of more than likely got stuffed anyway - but to not even try to have stopped it is in my view unacceptable. Name one other manager that would have reshuffled the entire team instead of simply swapping a forward for a defender in the same circumstances.
mjharrison56 at 10:47:25 Wednesday September 24 2003
Drilling Cobbler - playing Chambers at centre back did make sense its where he played for the youths. Is it not time we made him a contracted player? To be earning a youth scholar wage when you are a first team regular is a bit unfair. Good to see CC coming back into form and making some good runs.
Frontline soldier at 10:27:48 Wednesday September 24 2003
Have you cyber warriors out there got any idea what's it like on the front line? We're out there, facing the enemy, showing our true colours by standing our ground against terrible odds, and when we return, what do we get. A hero's welcome? No, just a load of whinging because "the nasty man said something I didn't like". Grow up, it's a tough world out there outside your curtains. If you want to help the club, sign up for the sortee on Saturday at Oxford. If not, go and watch daytime TV when you can moan and groan all day!
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:20:09 Wednesday September 24 2003
Didnt agree with the sending off last night, but the poster below made a good point - the challenge prior to the sending off committed by the same player on the same player was far more clearcut a foul than the 'tussle' he was eventually carded for. I counted at least 3 fouls from behind by Pompey players that went unpunished - and how the keeper stayed on the pitch when he conceded the penalty only the referee knows. Seemed a strange decision not to withdraw a forward in replace of Sammo when we went down to 10men, particularly as it was still 0-0 - putting a midfielder at rightback, a rightback at centreback and a striker in midfield was Mr Wilkinsons choice instead! Baffling, unless I have missed something somewhere. Under the circumstances I thought we did well and to be fair the ref effectively ended the game with his sending off decision. Although at least 3 of Pompeys goals could be classed as goals you would see in the 3rd division (ie, corners, shit defending etc). For me mom was CC - absolutely outstanding. Regarding the Asa comments - not particularly surprising considering he told the fans at a trust meeting at the start of last season that Gabbi's knees were fuc@ed!!
As manager, he is not helping himself or the atmosphere in the dressing room by being so open about his opinions on individuals. Wether they are right or wrong is irrelevant. For the record my current views on Delboy are that he is a great player to bring on if a goal is needed - as for starting him in a game forget it! Nurtured in the right way he could still turn out to be a fantastic player - his manager slagging him off in public will obviously not help his confidence.
On a final note, excellent asmosphere last night for once, despite the fact it was all over for us after 15minutes. If the same happens on Saturday though I somehow think the positive vibes generated in the away enclosure will be somewhat less evident!
Saddam at 10:02:04 Wednesday September 24 2003
Listen, of course you can have a point of view if you live under my direction, it just neeeds to be the same as mine. Now obviously I would want Wilko either in, or out so some of your views would be fine. Democracy? Don't make me laugh. You can have the Labour party, or the Tories, or the Labour party, or the Tories, or the labour party, or the tories, etc, etc, etc.
Paul S at 09:03:01 Wednesday September 24 2003
To ThisisCC - I think you miss the point - the complaint is about fans moaning about a match when they haven't even been there but have just listened to some rugby commentator's take on it. I agree that on the whole we played well last night but Harper certainly let the side down with goals 2 & 3 when he was at fault. To be fair it looked like he made a couple of good saves in the 2nd half (far end so difficult to tell) - though to be honest neither keeper has ever filled me with confidence. I thought both CC and CH had a good game with decent understanding between them leading to several attacking moves. Reid's sending off was laughable as was huge cheer well past the half hour when we got our first foul. Why did we not have Morison on the bench last night for cover for Richards - having one striker just back from injury in the teram and reserves seems a little perverse. And Wilko we've seen Asa turn games around which is why he is a fans' favourite - it seems incredible that the first team play for 70 minutes without breaking down Macclesfield and its Asa's fault that we didin't win when he's only on for 20 minutes and we spent most of that time thumping high balls to Youngs.
thisisCobblersComments at 08:20:41 Wednesday September 24 2003
you moaning wankers, Yoy may have gone to the game but clearly don't have the benefit of 'whole picture' insight. Portsmouth were a newly promoted Prem side playing a second 11 against us last night. Eight changes from the side that lost to Blackburn. Still a decent 11, though. By all accounts, not just yours, Reid was lucky not to see any card for commiting what some say was a professional foul on Roberts before he actually went. And then you spoil it all by becoming a so called moaning wanker yourself by slagging off Harper. See, you just cannot help it. This is a forum for comments critical and not. And at times when people feel aggreived, and these include loyal fans who have supported the club for seasons and those who are newer to the Cobblers cause, they have a right to express them. It's called democracy. If you don't like it, find Saddam and live in a state ruled by him
Anon at 08:12:18 Wednesday September 24 2003
therealslimmartinw moaner supreme was sitting at his PC last night when true fans were behind the lads at Portsmouth. No further comment needed.
R&DFC at 06:39:34 Wednesday September 24 2003
LH at 23:18 Good point 10th and 6 points from the top, also 6 points from relegation !!!!
You moaning wankers at 00:58:33 Wednesday September 24 2003
Got back from the game about half hour ago and came on site to see what the fans opinion was on tonight. It makes me laugh how some of you fuckers are here moaning week in and week out while during every match you sit there typing the scores as they happen, if where winning you whine and go on as if your just hoping the opposition score so you can say told you so and if were losing its the same old Atkins Out, Wilson Out, Broadhurst Out, Wilkinson Out maybe if you fuckers actually went to the games instead of sitting at you computers with ya think rimmed spekky glasses, one hand on cock while downloading porn we might actually get a good run behind us. For staters any1 who was there tonight would know that reidys sending of was a little harsh, he hardly touched roberts and he went down like twat and then ther ref spends 5 mins deciding what to do and by this point i think many had presumed it would only be a yellow and then the cunt pulls out a red. Portsmouth are premiership and have only lost 1 game so far this season so things from then on were going to be hard and i think for the lads to grab 2 late goals was well done and who knows what may have happend if reidy had just been given a yellow----Just seen sky sports and redknapp seems to agree with most that it was a tad harsh.Anyway im bored of your shit comments stop spending your time slagging off the team every 3.45 on a sat afternoon on the internet get some friends try going out for once and go and watch the team.Only real critism of tonight was Harper in goal he is shit poor, goes down to early and his handling is woeful.
Middlebill at 00:52:34 Wednesday September 24 2003
Oh and I don't think my wife, children and grandson would take kindly to me "getting myself a girlfriend."
Middlebill at 00:50:30 Wednesday September 24 2003
Puzzled Dan: Get off your high horse. At no time did I say anything about my views being more relevant than anybody elses. Even yours. As for intelligence, well I'm no scholar but from your posts, I'd certainly give you a run for your money!
Middlebill at 00:47:40 Wednesday September 24 2003
No, the point I was trying to make was that while I was out supporting the team, you were all here and in the main, talking of getting rid of the manager. As a supporter of the club, whether you actually go or are just an armchair fan, surely while the team are playing, there should be only one subject occupying your mind.
Anon at 00:30:11 Wednesday September 24 2003
Friendly advice for Middlebill - Don't state it's your first away game of the season and then proceed to have a go at the stay-at-home fans. They tend to pick up on things like that...
Puzzled Dan at 00:28:05 Wednesday September 24 2003
Middlebill, stop being a pompous git with your, ooh I went to the game so my views are more relevant than anyone else's and actually say something that mayb at some point relevant. ur head is so far up your rear end that the words that resonate r as flacid as urattempts, no doubt, 2 do what comes naturally. find yourself a girlfriend, get urself an intellig ent brain and quit pontificating. some of us work for a living u creep. And Glenn, wilkinson was not just spouting about asa as a fringe he was talking every player that we had last season.
Badger at 00:16:41 Wednesday September 24 2003
Just got back from the game.....the Ref was crap again....the lads played well under the circumstances..... If wilco said those things about Delboy... well he's in for a bad time again...... send for the Grim Reaper and the Vulture.....
Middlebill at 00:05:25 Wednesday September 24 2003
Just got back from the game, my first away this season and got to say, enjoyed myself. In the circumstances, of which there were many, a good performance. I then come on here to catch up and find while the supoorters are out there supporting the team, the stay-at-homes are calling for the managers head. Oh well. Nothing new there then.
Glenn at 00:01:08 Wednesday September 24 2003
Some good points regarding Derek - and I do sort of agree with MW that he is a "fringe" player - but nevertheless he's one that's worth having on the subs bench, as he can change the course of a match (and has on more than one occasion in the past). No, he's not going to do it all the time, but his 20 mins on Saturday were no worse than the other players who'd been on from the start, so to single him out was a little unfair. I'm afraid to say that MW's quote "but he didn't do it last season and I don't think he will do it this season, if I am being totally honest." sums up my thoughts on our manager more than it does Derek Asamoah.
watch this space at 23:59:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
New signing from Wolverhampton Wanderers very soon ???????
Foot in mouth at 23:48:39 Tuesday September 23 2003
Vulture, if you are looking for his brains you are looking if the wrong place, try looking up his backside.
Mushtaq at 23:26:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
Puzzled Dan don't you worry about the changing room. You are not the manager. You just do your part as a fan and get behind the players. How many times have you heard a manager say that having good supporters is like having an extra player on the pitch.
Anon at 23:24:54 Tuesday September 23 2003
Puzzled dont waste breath LH says nothing of note and when he does its through the hole atwixt his buttocks.then invents psuedonyms to back his arguments. saddo.
LH at 23:24:08 Tuesday September 23 2003
Dan I think you will find we are not the same , Mustaq dosent like Horlicks.
LH at 23:22:32 Tuesday September 23 2003
Oh by the way , well played the Town . Down to ten men for 80 minutes & still stuck 2 past a Prem side . Team didnt discrace themselves according to Fat Adam. Goodnight , time for a Horlicks.
Puzzled Dan at 23:21:58 Tuesday September 23 2003
LH, Mustaq, 1+ the same, the atmosphere in the dressing room cannot b much kop if wilkinson is slagging off last season's players as merely fringe. + then has to rely on them. clearly an own goal. + a gaffe 2 end all gaffes. unbelievable.
LH at 23:18:33 Tuesday September 23 2003
Mustaq , thanks for comment. There seems to be a real low level of tolerance about at the moment . I think its a culmination of being served dross for the last couple of years and hoping we had turned into Real Madrid overnight. TCMP i would be interested to know your comments on the Wilko out atmosphere even when we are 10th & 6 points of the top.
Oh and for all the thickos at 23:18:14 Tuesday September 23 2003
THE THREE COMMENTS BELOW ARE ALL MY PROBLEMS WITH ASAMOAH. HE ONLY HAS A RIGHT FOOT. HE NEVER USES HIS LEFT. SUNDAY FOOTBALLERS HAVE MORE TALENT THEN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mustaq at 23:16:58 Tuesday September 23 2003
Derek is an average player. He is not in the same class as the current first team squad. Is there any chance of the supporters supporting their club instead of moaning all the time. When we get promoted at the end of the season the boo boys have no right to join in the celebrations. Why does Northampton have to have so many negative people. Come on you true fans lets show them up and force them out.
Tim "Brian Potter" Lovejoy at 23:16:18 Tuesday September 23 2003
I have seen the future, 'Two Feet on footballers'
I'm Asamoah's right foot at 23:15:22 Tuesday September 23 2003
Sorry about my left foot there. It doesn't usually come out to play, i don't know who let him out. Just would like to reasure everyone that you will never see it again. I intend to have my left foot removed as i never use it.!!!!!
I'm Asamoah left foot. at 23:12:48 Tuesday September 23 2003
Hi everyone, don't know if you know me or not but I'm Derek Asamoah's left foot. I thought i would pop in just to say hi because as you can understand being the left foot on Mr Asamoah is like being in Ian Atkins dog-house. Your never gonna see me used!!!
Mustaq at 23:11:04 Tuesday September 23 2003
LH as a cobblers fan for 19 years I agree with your comments. I have been to 99% of home games and lots of away games I have never known fans like our current ones. Believe me I have seen some bad games, players etc but the fans never moaned like this. I am that upset by it that I do not want to go to Sixfield's at the moment. Where have the Boo Boys come from.
Rob Dunkley at 23:10:19 Tuesday September 23 2003
You have got to remember that Derek is still only 22 which is young for a forward, and he did not have the benefit of being a youth player at the club, he was brought in very raw having played some lower non league football and he does have pace and real skill, trouble is what is his best position?
LH at 23:06:06 Tuesday September 23 2003
Thanks Slim Martin alis Tag for your constructive reply. According to the radio Dudfield had a good game and if our coachings so bad how come Chambers and CC are good prospects . I think that if Del was going to make it he would of broken through by now . God knows enough managers have had a go with him.
Anon at 23:05:18 Tuesday September 23 2003
hilarious middlebill, now fuck off
therealslimmartinw at 23:03:05 Tuesday September 23 2003
Tag, you got there first. I don't like swearing on this board that often but this time I will make an exception. LH, you havent got a fucking clue.
Mushtaq at 23:02:22 Tuesday September 23 2003
The BBC are going to film a wildlife programme at Sixfields. They have heard that there are a number of fans who appear to have missed a few steps in the evolution process. They apparently cannot communicate but simply grunt, groan and moan. They are extremely close to the ape. The common name for this animal is the Boo Boy Baboon. They are not very clever (infact they are extremely thick) and will not survive as the far superior human will not tolerate them.
Tag at 23:01:13 Tuesday September 23 2003
LH,wot the hell are you on. Wilkinson's speaking of mind may be creditable if he said anything that made sense. Since when do you care anyway about people speaking their mind anyway when you spend all your time slagging people off for doing the same. Your views on Del show how little you understand about football and how young players need to have some coaching and as slim puts it, direction. What do you think about him saying that our players from last season are no better than fringe players. I just cannot belive he said taht. If we are builiding a squad of division 1 and 2 players do you think dudfield fits that bill, waht about the rest? You're as big an arse as our manager
LH at 23:00:03 Tuesday September 23 2003
Slim Martin I find your call for a Wiko out campaign distasteful. Your entitled to your views yet in your opinion Wilko isn't aloud to
air his , at leat Wilko attends the games ! If youv'e got any bottle mate you'd take Wilko up on his offer of a face to face meeting with any fans who want to meet him. If your so sure about your augument and you want to loose someone his job you could at least have the balls to explain it to his face.
Puzzled Dan at 22:56:03 Tuesday September 23 2003
Love im or loathe im, u cant fault slims passion + i have to say sense. wot is wilkinson on about i that radio interview sounded like the players he brought in were fringe players 2. childs view's right he is an idiot. and i hate 2 say it slim is proved right time and time again. maybe some1 should give im a place on the board, seriously. 2 bring some critical faculty 2 what seems 2 b a very non credible decision making process. I say bring in kermit as manager. well we alread ave one muppet, why not another.
Fred_NTFC at 22:55:58 Tuesday September 23 2003
Totally agree-Asamoah has never been given a sustained spell in the side in a sustained position, in one of the few matches he started last season against Crewe he was awesome and even the Crewe fans thought so.
He does need to improve his end product but he is still a huge talent and for Martin W to slate him publicly-well I think it's unacceptable.
LH at 22:52:40 Tuesday September 23 2003
Wilko's comments are certainly interesting and whatever your opinion on them he certainly speaks his own mind. This is Dels third year at the club and he has normally been 15 minutes of excitement at the end of a game . If was going to make it he needs to be able to start a game & have some influence on it . This has rarely happened when he starts . Yes he is exciting & a crowd favourite but when did he last win a game for us ? I think what Wilko may be driving at is that he wants to build a squad of Div 1/2 players and Asamoah in his opinion is not a player of that quality therefore he is not the future. Del flatters to decieve, I think if he was to breakthrough he would of done it by now ala Chambers , Carruthers . Still like watching him play though , an exciting player , if only he could do it from the start .
Mushtaq at 22:51:28 Tuesday September 23 2003
This site should be sponsered by the Samaritans
Mustaq at 22:48:25 Tuesday September 23 2003
You are a boo boy. Can't believe u bothered to turn your PC on to write that.
therealslimmartinw at 22:46:37 Tuesday September 23 2003
Indeed, the truth does hurt, but it is totally wrong to say that the boss can say what he wants. Especially when it affects the morale of the team. Criticism from those who frequent this forum is healthy it gives perspectives. Without criticism as people you cannot grow. But Asamoah has never established himself because he has never had a chance. When he comes on mainly as a sub he is played wide on the right sometimes on the left and sometimes up front and nobody seems to know where his best position is. He is exciting and can and has turned games for us. His best position is on the right in my view where he can create for others with his dribbling but he is clearly a raw talent who needs direction and isnt getting it. He has played a grand total of 21 matches for us since in his two years with us. Also if Wilko cannot cope with the moaners and the grumblers then he shouldnt be in the job. For f.. sake if he was a Prem manager he would have more than just the fans on his back. Every newspaper in the land will have an opinion on the way his sides play and criticise and moan. Time to grow up.
Mushtaq at 22:46:11 Tuesday September 23 2003
Well done cobbs. Two goals at Portsmouth with 10 men and a number of players missing or coming back from spells out with injury. Must have been nice playing infront of true cobblers fans who sung all game and clapped at the end.
We`ll do Oxford! at 22:42:14 Tuesday September 23 2003
I reckon because everyone is expecting us to lose we`ll do the great cobblers tradititon of winning when least expected and everyone will still slate Wilko.
Superb lads! at 22:40:14 Tuesday September 23 2003
Well played in difficult circumstances. Many pluses in a game the ref ruined. Keep it up boys and ignore the boo boy sheep!
Nosey Parker at 22:38:46 Tuesday September 23 2003
We are shit and know we are.. . . .get a grip lads and face reality
Nosey Parker at 22:38:43 Tuesday September 23 2003
We are shit and know we are.. . . .get a grip lads and face reality
Rob Dunkley at 22:38:24 Tuesday September 23 2003
Also - I would say that Wilkinson is a half decent scout, he is not manager material. He just seems to lack man mangement, tactics etc. I do feel though it was in hindsight sensible not to bring Sammo on. BY all accounts Luke was superb at centre back and Carruthers did fine as well.
Rob Dunkley at 22:35:31 Tuesday September 23 2003
Interstingly, to Adam Blackmore's credit he made sure the comments were played twice again and when he speaks to Wilkinson on Thursday he will grill Wilkinson. On the whole I would say on the messages he read out it was 70% pro Del and 30% Wilko can say what he wants.
Rob Dunkley at 22:35:27 Tuesday September 23 2003
Interstingly, to Adam Blackmore's credit he made sure the comments were played twice again and when he speaks to Wilkinson on Thursday he will grill Wilkinson. On the whole I would say on the messages he read out it was 70% pro Del and 30% Wilko can say what he wants.
Bloody Madness Of Not at 22:32:53 Tuesday September 23 2003
Word for word or it just annoys me.All of those I what I call the big pocket is being hurt because the just taken of a boiled spud this poor minger but the gloomy financialy would attract a multitude of small because of the old groundhog day for one and constantly struggling day of the groundhogs are only seen once a year unlike transfer embargo's comes to mind...........um................i think you know my views on this matter.................bingy
therealslimmartinw at 22:31:13 Tuesday September 23 2003
If what Rob is saying is true, and there is no reason to think otherwise, Rob has been pretty straight up and down before if memory serves me right, then Wilkinson is as big a numpty as I have always said he is and more. How can you dismiss the old players let alone Asamoah, who has raw talent and needs nurturing and really has never had a chance. Lets face it the guy is exciting fans arent stupid. For fuck sake Harsley was player of the year. Yet gets discarded. Hargreaves, they had to rely on tonight, in fact he had to rely a lot on old squad tonight. How do they feel about Wilko saying the old is basically a pile of shite that needs shovelled off. To talk about the players from last season as "fringe players" betrays all the rules of management. In fact no, it betrays the rules of common sense. We need everyone to fight for the cause. Espeically now when we have injuries. We still need a few players. Under Wilkinson we would still need a few more strikers if we had Ronaldo, Raul, Van Nistelroy and Henry in our squad. Wilkinson is and always has been a total failure as a manager and if action is not taken immediately to remove him you have to ask serious questions about the decision makers and the power brokers at the club. I would appeal to anyone who cares about the club to tell the board by emailing the office. Its not good enough. I can accept the Cardozas are going on the advice of those who have experience at the club in accepting Wilko as manager and wanting to have some stability but having seen the raw facts and discovered for themselves the ineptitude of the man as a team manager it beggars belief that he is still there. And I am sorry I will keep saying it till he goes. Full stop. When something is wrong, it's wrong. He is wrong. I know that some will just see this as more troublemaking but I dont care. I say it as I see it and so far i have not heard or seen anything to change my mind. "I am looking to the future not the past," he says. "You know if we keep referring back to people like Asamoah and other players I don't think we......" I think we know all about Wilkinson. The worst manager ever in the football league. Shame.
The Truth Hurts at 22:29:23 Tuesday September 23 2003
Adam Blackmore on Radio Northampton was sticking up for Wilko by saying "He is the boss and he can say what he wants" I happen to agree with him on this one.Asamoah has been here for three seasons and has never established himself as a first teamer.Why is this? It can only be poor attitude.I also agree with him regarding the moaners and the grumblers that have infested Sixfields.They are thick and contribute to the biggest own goal by anyone connected with the club.
Rob Dunkley at 22:19:13 Tuesday September 23 2003
Remember if we lose to Oxford, Wilkinson we have the same record which got Atkins sacked and Atkins managed to beat some of the teams who were relegated with us!
Rob Dunkley at 22:15:45 Tuesday September 23 2003
These were Wilko's comments as word for word as I could get them (I could not get what he said at the very end)"My head tells me separately, hand on heart, I'm trying to say to you I hope these players do do well, it just annoys me. I mean Asamoah they are all shouting for him on Saturday to come on. What does he do. I am sorry. I just wish he could come on and turn , but he didn't do it last season and I don't think he will do it this season, if I am being totally honest. He's got pace, he looks excites people because he runs at players and things but his end product is what you worry about. A lot of the players in the team now are players that were in the team that last year got relegated so they are fringe players as such. I'm looking to... well the fringe players that have brought in for this team were people like Richards er.. B. Burgess er erm, the lad..Martin Reeves. All of those I what I call fringe players. Now all missing now so, we still got to bring one or two more in to get it right but I am looking to the future not the past. You know if we keep referring back to people like Asamoah and other players I don't think we......"
A Childs View at 22:08:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
Thanks anon, if that's an accurate portrayal of what he said then he is a xxxxing idiot. No defence, no explanation, simply a xxxxing idiot who will ruin our club unless we get shot. The Cardoza's need to hear our voice on Saturday. I'll go on Saturday, not because it'll be a good game or because I want to win, rather, because I love my club and need to do my bit to get shot of the twat who is ruining it. Asa can't have played that many minutes on the pitch last season, scored 6 goals, probably set up 4 or 5 and generally excited the fans. How can Wilko say he's got no talent after the lob against Brentford and beating 4 defenders to score a wonder goal at home against QPR? He is quick and terrifies defenders, he'd certainly do that in this division playing in a positive side with some other decent footballers - not much fear of that with Bagman running the show. Yes Asa makes mistakes, so does everyone, but he makes them through adventure and flair - players like that don't always do it consistently, but, when they do, it makes draws from defeats and wins from draws. I can't help but think Wilko's a bit tapped in the head, thick lower lip and the inane repetitive drivel he spouts about individual errors, needing time to gel, 0-0 to Macc being an ok result. He can't even remember the names of the players he signed! Please, please, please Mr Cardoza - sack the twat and soon. Your pocket is being hurt because the attendances so far this season are abysmal, albeit a fair reflection of the crap this man is serving up. It's very simple, sack him, advertise the job and get a proven manager in with a reputation for attacking football, good man management and having a brain. In this division, and with the quality of some of our players, you can't go wrong. Perservere with this muppet and it only means yet more pain. We've had enough now, show us your the man to lead our club on and do the right thing, get a good guy in at the top and we'll back him 100%, just you then watch the club's potential take off! Wilko out, Wilko out, Wilko out!!
Rob Dunkley at 21:29:37 Tuesday September 23 2003
He said Asamoah did nothing last season. And he struggled to spit out some of his new signings names.
Anon at 21:28:52 Tuesday September 23 2003
The problem is Wilko. Not just his poor management but the gloomy atmosphere caused by his stupid comments (thick fans/publicly attacking players) and people's lack of confidence in Wilko's ability to create a decent team.
Deepcut Cobbler at 21:27:40 Tuesday September 23 2003
4-1. Hargreaves twice taken pen. Does anyone elses commentary keep jumping to earlier parts of the game? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!! We could force extra time..
Mover on at 21:24:32 Tuesday September 23 2003
All Wilko said was that Asamoah was part of the squad that got relegated and was cr*p last year. He also said that he runs at people but there is rarely any end product. All true, what's the problem?
NT FCOK at 21:17:35 Tuesday September 23 2003
incidently how many people on here actully thought we could only look for a manager who was unemployed or out of contract? we could actually go and look at any manager out there unemployed or not,,within reason of course
NT FCOK at 21:10:58 Tuesday September 23 2003
We have never dabbled in the manager market because nobody wanted to come here because of the old ground for one and constantly struggling with money problems, its only been the last 6? years since 6fields that we have started to attract players , a club with some money to spend a ground plus improvements on the way and a healthy club financialy would attract a multitude of managers here , perhaps for the first time in our history we are in a position to even poach one! (He say's tongue in cheek)
moultoncobbler at 21:08:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
4 - 0, god help us
NT FCOK at 21:04:19 Tuesday September 23 2003
what league are the managers assoc in then? he got a top job and shit on us from a great height weilding the power stick (PAY ME OR YOUR FUCKED) basicly the words transfer embargo comes to mind. foley only had a short stint at the gooners and was nothing to write home about.
Topper at 21:00:07 Tuesday September 23 2003
vote... like that online vote for the Pish's kit we all tried to fix?
Topper at 20:57:32 Tuesday September 23 2003
Foley was with the Goonies. Barnwell was (or is) the manager of the league managers association. He managed at AEK Athens, "All Greek to me" etc. Please make your own jokes. Rumour has it Barnwell was on a whopping pay packet.
NT FCOK at 20:56:40 Tuesday September 23 2003
why dont we copy luton and have a vote on who we want as manager, and if we could do that how many would choose a nobody and more interestingly would anybody out-there choose wilko instead of a well known league manager?
Anon at 20:55:45 Tuesday September 23 2003
"My head tells me separately, hand on heart, I'm trying to say to you I hope these players do do well, it just annoys me. I mean Asamoah they are all shouting for him on Saturday to come on. What does he do. I am sorry. I just wish he could come on and turn , but he didn't do it last season and I don't think he will do it this season, if I am being totally honest. He's got pace, he looks excites people because he runs at players and things but his end product is what you worry about. A lot of the players in the team now are players that were in the team that last year got relegated so they are fringe players as such. I'm looking to... well the fringe players that have brought in for this team were people like Richards er.. B. Burgess er erm, the lad..Martin Reeves. All of those I what I call fringe players. Now all missing now so, we still got to bring one or two more in to get it right but I am looking to the future not the past. You know if we keep referring back to people like Asamoah and other players I don't think we......"
Topper at 20:53:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
slimmartin, unproven is *always* a risk. we give managers around 6 months at this club because unproven and a bad run equals dismissal. i want someone who is going to play decent football with a proven manager you at least have some kind of track record. i don't mind if we get beaten and are mid table, as long as we play entertaining stuff - something that hasn't been served for a very long time.
therealslimmartinw at 20:51:12 Tuesday September 23 2003
Incidentally, anyone heading to Oxford on Saturday should note that you are not likely to see David Savage and Hunty teaming up in central midfield as they did last season. Savage was shifted out on a free and is now doing okay with Bristol Rovers and Hunty was only sub last week. Although he is dubbed " a reliable performer". Doubt he would have gone if he had an inkling that we were gonna be megabucks.
Anon at 20:50:43 Tuesday September 23 2003
sounds like the two twats (djs) are at fratton park playing their usual crap selection of music
NT FCOK at 20:49:06 Tuesday September 23 2003
foley was second in command at spurs and where barnwell (ive got contacts) came from god knows , but have you or anybody else heard of barnwell succeding at any club, just look at the damage he done when he left.
therealslimmartinw at 20:47:46 Tuesday September 23 2003
Topper, there is nothing wrong with unproven, managers have to start somewhere. What is wrong is proven failure. Which is what we have got. I would not argue that Atkins was up and coming, he is after all at Oxford employing similar tactics to the ones he employed with us in the final days. But he could end up having the last laugh on Saturday.
village boy at 20:47:37 Tuesday September 23 2003
Listening in to Radio Northampton your 3-0 down at halftime against a premier league club, what more did you expect? fans now calling in for Wilko's head, who the hell would want to be manager for you lot?
topper at 20:47:04 Tuesday September 23 2003
barnwell? - maybe foley?
NT FCOK at 20:44:06 Tuesday September 23 2003
We could actually bring a manager here for starters, because we have never really had a full blown league manager for decades..wilkinson-broadhurst,wilson,atkins,barnwell,chard,foley,carr,, we all know what carr did for us but even so he was not a non league manager at the time of his appointment...this is why most fans have a grievence at the club for their choice of manager,,,didn't dick underwood actually say he was taking over at one point during one of his rants? they have all been cutting their teeth here.. who was the last proper manager we had? was it bill dodgin back in the seventies??
Cobb Fan at 20:43:59 Tuesday September 23 2003
Would the club really want Joe Kinnear after what he said about us in the summer? didn't he blame a member of our staff for him getting the sack
Anon at 20:36:17 Tuesday September 23 2003
listen to radio npton for a replay of the asa comments from wilko
therealslimmartinw at 20:35:28 Tuesday September 23 2003
Asamoah, another victim of the out with the old in with the new policy that is bound to piss off those like last year's player of the year who were sideline at the start of the season. It's a shambles. Wilkinson must go not because of today or yesterday but because he have never been good enough. Delaying will just do more damage. Please, Mr Cardoza Snr and Jnr do the right thing by the club and get let Wilkinson go. As for Anon's comments, well they are anonymous.
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:35:09 Tuesday September 23 2003
What about Joe Kinnear. He is looking for a club where he can spend money. He was doing a decent job at Luton before the takeover fiasco. Nobody can tell me that he hasn't got a decent record, or can they? COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!! The Cobblers World isn't very good tonight is it?
topper at 20:33:46 Tuesday September 23 2003
i've not been one for wilkos head, but if he did say those things, then to be honest - he sounds desperate and should go. for what its worth, i do agree with an earlier poster that we do need some continuity with both the team and manager and that most teams do need around a season to 'gel' - but there is gelling and actually playing like a team in the firstplace. of the last umpteen managers we have whizzed through, only atkins has been an upandcoming manager (and I hated his tactics) - the rest have been unproven (broadhurst, wilson) or downright poo. i wouldn't know who to bring in, or what the team needs at this moment.
NT FCOK at 20:32:28 Tuesday September 23 2003
I had about 6-0 in mind before kick off..any predictions?
Anon at 20:30:04 Tuesday September 23 2003
It gets worse, its 3-0 down Matthew Taylor
Anon at 20:30:01 Tuesday September 23 2003
And who do you suggest takes over. No respectable manager would want to come near a club who have had three managers in a year
Rob Dunkley at 20:29:46 Tuesday September 23 2003
Sorry.mate.. Anyway I taped the comments and I will play them back at half-time. I am doing a stroy for my site and I will paste them here when I have jotted them down.
Anon at 20:28:58 Tuesday September 23 2003
3-0 time to switch the radio off me thinks goodnight.
NT FCOK at 20:28:21 Tuesday September 23 2003
how much longer will it be before he goes, how can anybody say that he is the future of this club,we look like idiots at the moment, spent all that money and where are we??? we will end up mid table or lower at this rate at the end of the season, we could have done that with broads in charge with last years team and not spent a dime...why do people insist he will succeed? its nonsense!!.
FAO Childs View at 20:28:12 Tuesday September 23 2003
I have taped the comments and.....
3-0
topper at 20:27:34 Tuesday September 23 2003
asamoah highlighted on bbc website as most promising young player to watch last season.
A Childs View at 20:27:02 Tuesday September 23 2003
What's the story re the Asamoah comments? Anyone got anymore detail? If that's how it sounds I for one will be shouting Wilko out at the next game. Pillock - did he watch Asa last season at all? Brentford and QPR come to mind straight away without looking at the stats. Asa is the most exciting prospect at the club and if he can't see that he really needs help. Wilko tactics or Asamoah terrorising defences - hmmmm, I wonder what the fans would rather see and, indeed, what will win games! Get rid now - not because of tonight's results but because of the back end of last season and crap we've had to endure so far this time. We are in decline and each day we delay means the replacement manager will have more work to do.
lotsofmenteam at 20:26:12 Tuesday September 23 2003
Well said Rob, managers should not say in public what they may feel in private.
Deepcut Cobbler at 20:25:56 Tuesday September 23 2003
Huddersfield beating Sunderland 2-0 at Sunderland. COME ON YOU COBBLERS!!!
Rob Dunkley at 20:22:36 Tuesday September 23 2003
It is out of order to slag off a player publically like that. Asamoah scored 6 times last season and he had an excellent spell, things went downhill when thickwit took over
Anon at 20:16:15 Tuesday September 23 2003
TRSMW... And I suppose it's Wilko's fault that Reid was sent off?
therealslimmartinw at 20:10:50 Tuesday September 23 2003
11 minutes gone and game over against a second Portsmouth eleven. 2-0 down and Reid sent off. Sheringham has just had a third goal chalked off for offside and there hasnt even been a quarter of the game gone. Shocking.
Anon at 20:09:26 Tuesday September 23 2003
FAO Rob Dunkley - so if that's out of order what did Asamoah do last season.
Anon at 20:08:45 Tuesday September 23 2003
oops 2-0
Anon at 20:03:31 Tuesday September 23 2003
missed the sending off what happened?
Anon at 20:03:10 Tuesday September 23 2003
Losing 1-0
Anon at 20:00:35 Tuesday September 23 2003
reidy sent off
Rob Dunkley at 19:40:59 Tuesday September 23 2003
Wilkinson is bang out of order. He can get lost NOW. He has just slagged off Asamoah on Radio Northampton.
"The fans were calling for Asamoah. What did he do nothing. He did nothing last season and to be honest he will do nothing this season"
Well on that basis Wilkinson you are not fit to be our manager.
Anon at 18:52:08 Tuesday September 23 2003
What I found funny about the Hoddle sacking was his quote of "I've never been sacked for football reasons before" because that'll talk you straight into a job.
Anon at 18:47:28 Tuesday September 23 2003
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Anon at 18:47:15 Tuesday September 23 2003
no chance salloon pompey to win ny 5 goals
therealslimmartinw at 18:46:03 Tuesday September 23 2003
Who says Hoddle is not a great man-manager? He may not be able to manage top class players presently, when apparently he feels he is better than any of them which affects egos. See, his time as England manager. He is suffering from the fallout from the England job when he made serious man-management mistakes and top class players don't forget. Don't forget Hoddle got the England manager’s job because no else wanted it or rather he had the courage to accept it. And Hoddle was a success although clearly his untouchable self-confidence turned into vanity and he went from lord of the manor to local tyrant. Hoddle’s not-my-fault attitude to defeat in the 1998 World Cup, when he hid behind Beckham’s personal disaster, was a sign that all was not well. Also, he seemed to be the first to fall for for the book temptation and betrayed players’ confidences on a huge and financially lucrative scale WHILE STILL MANAGER. That was unforgiveable and a major major mistake. But bristling with a religious conviction which meant all criticism was irrelevant, Hoddle's goose was not just cooked but burnt when saying it he believed the disabled were paying for the sins of a former incarnation. This has haunted him. But dont forget his WHOLE career, not just his time with Spurs, a bit like what some fans do with Wilkinson. Hoddle's record was superb with Swindon where he transformed the side and won them promotion to the Premiership in 1993, scoring one of the goals in their thrilling 4-3 win over Leicester in the play-off final at Wembley. During his three years at Chelsea, Hoddle laid the foundations for the success the club has enjoyed in recent years and, with the signing of Ruud Gullit, proved that English clubs could attract some of world football's biggest names to the Premiership. Ironically, it was Gullit that carried on his work and brought Chelsea further success, but not before Hoddle had taken the club to their first FA Cup final for 24 years in 1994.If anyone is truly saying that we would rather have Wilkinson than Hoddle, then it defies belief. It's easy to have a tabloid brain and label Hoddle as incompetent. But he may just not be capable of dealing with a Premiership side because of what happened with England. Lower division players will not have the same ego-issues and would have a greater respect for his views on football. Incidentally, I wouldn't mind having a little bet that Ranieri will end up at Tottenham while the big cheeses at Chelsea look for a bigger name to run the playing side of the club. Eriksson anyone?
simonN.T,F.C at 16:34:39 Tuesday September 23 2003
oh, and my cat has got about as many qualification"s to manage a football team as fatty wilkinson has! i will talk to him this evening and see if he can be arsed
simonN.T,F.C at 16:30:49 Tuesday September 23 2003
i think that it"s true wilkinson is not on my xmas card list! whatever happened to mr carr of the graham carrs claret and white army era?
Dyl at 15:32:51 Tuesday September 23 2003
Why would we want Hoddle? He's an appalling man-manager... He'd fit right in :)
Middlebill at 15:27:13 Tuesday September 23 2003
Your cat Simon. Who has he managed before and what was his success rate? We can't afford to get the next appointment wrong and shouldn't look on your cat as the cheap option.
LH at 13:26:28 Tuesday September 23 2003
I gather you dont rate Wilko then Simon ?
simonN.T,F.C at 13:10:15 Tuesday September 23 2003
we have got about as much chance of getting hoddle as that scottish taggart features ferguson, i dont care who we have just get rid of this bumbling half wit wilkinson, my cat could do a better job than he has so far managed in his wonderfully succesful career
Anon at 12:56:05 Tuesday September 23 2003
Plan nine - Asamoah wouldnt be able to kick the ball that far to actually get it into the mixing pot that is the 6 yard box.
LH at 12:49:09 Tuesday September 23 2003
Talking about League cup games anybody remember when we went to ManCity , Tony Mahony(I think) scored from about 30 yards out.
Beaten by two late goals Denis Tuart ( I think again ).
Nosey Parker at 10:05:38 Tuesday September 23 2003
WE WANT HODDLE AS MANAGER GIVE WILKINSON TO SPURS
Plan Nine From Outta Sixfields at 07:07:45 Tuesday September 23 2003
Don't let Troll take corners or wide free kicks. Put him in the middle because he's not a bad header, and get a shortarse, or someone who can't head [ie Lowe/Smith/Asamoah]to take the corners/free kicks. Sorted.
Wilkinsons Army at 05:50:41 Tuesday September 23 2003
Setting off from the fenlands to Pompey in 20 minutes!!! Come on you Cobblers!!!
Tag at 00:07:10 Tuesday September 23 2003
Sorry tavern drinking = silliness = taking piss out of self = bugger all = another routine Wilkinson out chant = help help the kroenen is too strong
Tag at 00:05:40 Tuesday September 23 2003
Do you know what really irks me. We have never ever ever managed to turn Man U over. I mean what sort of crappy side are we when we cannot crush Fergie's underlings. As for Real Sociedad, I think you will find once again, a complete failure to get a victory. It's rubbish.
Sparko at 23:29:45 Monday September 22 2003
Me at 21:41 - Did the team deserve the slow handclapping then! and boos at half time.
Anon at 23:01:00 Monday September 22 2003
Wouldn't you know Rob.
Rob Dunkley at 22:22:48 Monday September 22 2003
We have not beaten them at Fratton Park for 79 years!
Me at 21:41:29 Monday September 22 2003
What really gets to me is the promises. The promises of "attractive, passing, attacking football" sorry, not seeing that. I'm seeing dull defensive scrape a win over nothing teams like Carlisle, Darlo & Donny. A goaless home draw with Macc Town is NOT acceptable. There was no pride, no passion and certainly no attractive, passing, attacking football.
Sprinkler at 21:23:35 Monday September 22 2003
Headland Cobbler, understand your feelings but you are operating under the mistaken belief that what we have is good enough. the point that has been made time and time again is that he was a bad appointment. he is not just unproven he has a proven bad record and as far as Martinw says and nobody has contradicted it, one of the worst ever in the football leauge. i checket it out and for all his firy words he is sadly correct. that includes managers with less financial support that he had at Carlisle and certainly Peterborough. actually my Posh mate a long time season ticket holder has a quiet chuckle over wilkinson and i cannot think of anything to say back. wilks got the job after failing abysmally to raise standards at the end of last season and despite the fact he has all the resources he wants for a Third Division club he is still managing to duff it up. the facts are there for all to see. he has had a full squad to choose from and the squad is fuller than most Third Divison teams and indeed fuller than previous Cobblers teams when we have had to scratch around for people to put on the bench and still get results at this level, thanks Kev. if Chelsea were in 10th position you can bet Ranieri would not be in a job now, and as Prem managers goes he has a fantastic track record. but the football we are playing is dire as well. i didnt go last week because quite frankly i am bored. bored with the way we play as much as anything but to see wilkinson shouting and bawling at the players and failing to carry the can for results makes me sick. the oxford match will be interesting with good old ian atkins with more than a fair chance in taking us apart. having Wilkinson as manager is almost as unbeleivable a decision as the one West Ham made in employing Roeder and we know what happened to im.
Carl Lingcup at 20:58:06 Monday September 22 2003
I'm afraid my cheering and clapping has singularly failed to improve any Cobblers player's positional play for at least the last 15 years. I have never been a viable option for a defence splitting pass whilst proudly wearing my claret and white. So I pay for my season ticket, and leave the playing to the professionals. So far I've fulfilled my role within the club, I feel I have earned the right to state my point of view. Currently, my point of view is that Josh Low is disappointing.
Ralph2 at 20:54:13 Monday September 22 2003
Sorry Sean, I'm being a dunce again. I thought you meant you would be watching it,DO'H!
Sean from London at 20:50:41 Monday September 22 2003
I don't know anyone who has BBC4
Ralph2 at 20:42:00 Monday September 22 2003
Are you recording it Sean?
Sean from Lonfdon at 20:21:27 Monday September 22 2003
Has anyone got the TV channel BBC4? There is a documentary about black footballers tonight - "Black Flash".
Has story of Walter Tull and some new information that in 1938, Northampton Town signed John Parris, who later went on to play for Wales, thus becoming the first black player to represent any of the home national sides.
The Cobblers has been a ground-breaking club over its 100+ years.
Glenn at 20:19:30 Monday September 22 2003
Eastander - I think it will be Trollope direct from a corner. If there's a really strong wind.
Eastander at 19:57:57 Monday September 22 2003
Love to believe that we can win tomorrow, but who will score the goals
ain't life a bitch......... at 19:43:53 Monday September 22 2003
Chelsea (the real deal) have Mr Abramovic flying to matches from his Russian dacha in his personal helicopter whilst maintaining a dignified silence about the 100 million he has spent on the club......NTFC (the poor man's Chelsea) have Ted, cycling to Portsmouth from his time-share swap caravan in a field near Dawlish Sands singing at the top of his voice about his large wad. THe club still has a way to go 'off the pitch'.....;-)
Anon at 19:31:05 Monday September 22 2003
Well written Sparko. Far, far too much negativity on this site.
Sparko at 18:57:31 Monday September 22 2003
Carl Lingcup, I'm sorry but your talking rubbish. "We've hardley set the division alight", if we're easily pleased, you've set your sights too high. Unless we had bought 12 premiership players we were never going storm the division. The lads we've bought in are good 1st/2nd division players. They are also young, they need a good positive crowd/atmosphere to inspire their confidence. What have they had so far, a load of tuts, negativity, booing and slow hand clapping from their supporters. Saturdays second half performance to me was a jumpy nervous display with the players resorting to a route one strategy in order to try a turn an ever negative crowd. If we carry like this you can be sure, we'll ruin any good player that comes to Sixfields.
Carl Lingcup at 18:10:22 Monday September 22 2003
We've hardly set the division alight. If you're satisfied with his performances so far, you are easily pleased. If those are our most dangerous moves, the rest of the division must be quaking in their boots
Milk Cup at 17:54:59 Monday September 22 2003
If Low is not producing the goods how come some of our most dangerous
moves come via him ?
Carl Lingcup at 17:48:36 Monday September 22 2003
Cobblers will be without Chris Doig who is cup tied, another chance for Sammo to shine, and Josh Low is a bit poorly, so might miss out. No bad thing, he needs to get his game together, I remain to be convinced that he was a good buy for the club. His position could be ably filled by Asamoah or Harsley, even give Greg Lincoln a chance to shine. Low has hardly merited his inclusion for the last few games. Maybe his confidence is shattered, maybe his attitude is awry, maybe he's unsettled, whatever the reason he is holding the team back at present and needs to sort himself out. I'm sure he will be a hero before the season is out, but he's not producing the goods at the minute.
Sean at 16:48:42 Monday September 22 2003
"Portsmouth will be without injured goalkeeper Shaka Hislop at home to Northampton in the Carling Cup, but manager Harry Redknapp will also rest several other first-team regulars.
Gary O'Neil, Vincent Pericard, Jason Roberts, Hayden Foxe, Linvoy Primus and Alexei Smertin could all come into the starting line-up, with the likes of Teddy Sheringham and Dejan Stefanovic resting."
Anon at 15:36:48 Monday September 22 2003
The stars will be released from Division III drudgery and play to their real potential. Portsmouth 0 Cobblers 2
DavCobbler at 15:32:22 Monday September 22 2003
We're going to get fooking soaked that's for certain.
Anon at 15:24:57 Monday September 22 2003
We are going to win
Ralph2 at 15:18:50 Monday September 22 2003
I can't see them doing anything other than stuffing us Sean.
Gordon Van Halen at 15:05:46 Monday September 22 2003
Bloody Madness of Not, you seem to be missing the point, we need your opinion, not the finer points of tactical knowledge. Would you settle for a biscuit (that's french for 'cooked twice')
Sean from London at 14:59:56 Monday September 22 2003
Trying to get some information about the Portsmouth team for tomorrow. Redknapp has been "hinting that he may use some fringe players". Maybe 10-1 for a Cobblers win or 4-1 (William Hill) for a draw will be tempting
LeeNTFC at 14:59:04 Monday September 22 2003
My new write up is finally here! If you get time and want cheering up please check it out.
Just cut and paste:
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/cobblersntfc/index.html
Thanks
Lee
DEK at 14:32:38 Monday September 22 2003
Hotel Ender is right about workrate. I lot of people are fooled because the players huff and puff in small areas. The problem is that they do not cover enough ground often enough. The support play is almost non-exsistent, few overlapping runs and midfielders in the box. Lots of comments about Maccs being very defensive hard to breakdown etc, but we hardly bombarded them, we hardly went all out for a goal. The best teams (including Arsenal / Man U) generally work the hardest, when they have a poor performance notice how the effort and workrate has dropped.
Bloody Madness Of Not at 14:02:45 Monday September 22 2003
Saturdays game was one of the most barking in Kent matches I have ever attended - and theres been maggots for me fish. Carnival in the way that the opposition came it on a 0-0 and we could do little about the way the world is shaping up toooo. How many times over Atkins did we do a Macclesfield ie buy fish cheap but never share the cost of the sauce?and although it didnt work the intention to stretch them more in the closing stages was obvious to anying 'FOOTSPAR WITH A BIKE'. It was again evident on Saturday that everyones icecream seller is so desperately needed if we are to progress this season. on/off sort of but still delivered a number of excellent into the box which eluded the unfortunately there was never anyone coming in to meet them for a cup of tea...........................um i think you know my views on this matter..............bingy
Junk Shop Man Atkinson at 13:55:37 Monday September 22 2003
Not from me the last posting, but always happy to meet anyone!
Junk Shop Man Atkinson at 12:54:00 Monday September 22 2003
Anon,Ted lets see if you are brave enough to show your face at the fish market on wednesday.
Anon at 11:05:27 Monday September 22 2003
Maybe though Mrs Ted seeks out the company of "other" men.
Simon at 11:02:07 Monday September 22 2003
Old Ted sounds just like the grumpy old Grandad that no one likes. He sounds like the miserable old git who won't give the kids their ball back when it lands in his garden. He sounds like the moody tosser at work that people avoid. He sounds like everyones worst nightmare. Lets just pity poor Mrs Ted.
The Drilling Cobbler at 10:28:05 Monday September 22 2003
Saturdays game was one of the most frustrating matches I have ever attended - and theres been alot. Thrustrating in the way that the opposition came intent on a 0-0 draw and we could do little about it. How many times under Atkins did we do a Macclesfield?? Regarding team selection and substituitions I thought for once that Wilko got both spot on. Asamoah time came with 20 minutes to go - unusually early - and although it didnt work the intention to stretch them more in the closing stages was obvious. It was again evident on Saturday that a midfield driving force and a goalscorer are so desperately needed if we are to progress this season. Low had an on/off sort of game but still delivered a number of excellent balls into the box which eluded the Macc defence but unfortunately there was never anyone coming in to meet them. The midfield lacked guile and the creative spark needed to break down such a stubborn rearguard. A little unfair to critisise the workrate - I could not fault the effort, only the self belief or lack of it. CC had an excellent game and it was good to see that his confidence seems to have returned after a nightmare last 10minutes at Cheltenham and a shakey performance at Huddersfield. He is a great player, England wouldnt be sticking by him if he was anywhere near as bad as what some people on this site have made him out to be. Looking forward to Pompey tomorrow, my prediction is that Josh Low will have a field day and we will lose 3-1. The Oxford performance/result on Saturday I think will go alongway to deciding Wilkos fate, another Huddersfield horror show and it could well be the end. A famous 1-0 win and I can see him lasting another 5 or more games. With barely 4000 home fans attending each of the last 3 home games we are down to the bare bones in terms of support - the missing 1000's will only be enticed back if the good times return. Or if Wilko is replaced by someone with a proven track record in management. Or perhaps more likely, both! The Cordoza's have some big decisions to make over the cause of the next couple of weeks...
Junk Shop Man Atkinson at 10:26:17 Monday September 22 2003
I would ignore Ted he is an idiot, on here he is quick to have a go at me and others, if he didnt like me so much and knew where my shop was, why didnt he come in and say it to my face, i wonder why? Too many jellies on here hiding behind their PC!! The worst are anon and Ted, state your real names if you do believe in all your drivel
Anon at 10:26:01 Monday September 22 2003
Saturdays game was one of the most frustrating matches I have ever attended - and theres been alot. Thrustrating in the way that the opposition came intent on a 0-0 draw and we could do little about it. How many times under Atkins did we do a Macclesfield?? Regarding team selection and substituitions I thought for once that Wilko got both spot on. Asamoah time came with 20 minutes to go - unusually early - and although it didnt work the intention to stretch them more in the closing stages was obvious. It was again evident on Saturday that a midfield driving force and a goalscorer are so desperately needed if we are to progress this season. Low had an on/off sort of game but still delivered a number of excellent balls into the box which eluded the Macc defence but unfortunately there was never anyone coming in to meet them. The midfield lacked guile and the creative spark needed to break down such a stubborn rearguard. A little unfair to critisise the workrate - I could not fault the effort, only the self belief or lack of it. CC had an excellent game and it was good to see that his confidence seems to have returned after a nightmare last 10minutes at Cheltenham and a shakey performance at Huddersfield. He is a great player, England wouldnt be sticking by him if he was anywhere near as bad as what some people on this site have made him out to be. Looking forward to Pompey tomorrow, my prediction is that Josh Low will have a field day and we will lose 3-1. The Oxford performance/result on Saturday I think will go alongway to deciding Wilkos fate, another Huddersfield horror show and it could well be the end. A famous 1-0 win and I can see him lasting another 5 or more games. With barely 4000 home fans attending each of the last 3 home games we are down to the bare bones in terms of support - the missing 1000's will only be enticed back if the good times return. Or if Wilko is replaced by someone with a proven track record in management. Or perhaps more likely, both!
Simon at 10:19:53 Monday September 22 2003
Old Ted's a lad, ain't he? Is he Ted as in Ted and Ralph? Are you a bog trotter Ted?
Headland Cobbler at 10:06:34 Monday September 22 2003
It does make me laugh that no matter what Wilko cannot do a thing right for some or most people on this sight (and probably th whole of sixfileds). For most of last season Stamp was being booed everytime he started came on or taken off, yet someone is now saying on this site we were too hasty in offloading him. Has any body also noticed that most of Wilko's summer signings are injured e.g. Smith, Wilmott, Westwood, Clarke and Reeves, who just happen to fill the positions where we are currently lacking. Yet we are still well positioned in the league. Did any body notice that Smith was feeling his Hamstring for a couple of minutes before he had his 1 on 1? I believe if he had been fully fit he would have scored easliy! I still reserve judgement on Wilko, ok his past record is poor but perhaps he didn't have the financial backing he is getting here? Lets wait till he has a full squad to choose from.
Hotel Ender at 09:44:20 Monday September 22 2003
Now to be serious...... we get a lot of stick for being too negative on this channel, so here is some positive advice for MW.
1. Congratulations on finding, and picking up, Doig. He has slotted in with Reidy like a natural. I only wish you had the same eye for strikers, and creative midfield players, but one out of three aint bad
2.We have one glaring problem which is solely down to your good self.... WORK RATE !!! (or lack of it). I have never seen a more sedentary bunch when we have possession, or so few in the box when the ball is crossed, or so few moving into space to make themselves available when we are moving forward. You yourself don't give the impression of a Colin Jackson waiting to jump out of that suit, and I wonder who takes the fitness training, because he needs to step it up several gears.
On the training ground, could you ensure that Follolup practises dead ball kicks, especially corners. He is paid to deliver a pacy swinging ball over, which, when someone gets on the end of it, pings off at some speed to give the goalie less chance of saving it, but he doesn't. Week after week he floats the ball in like a balloon, and surprise surprise, it is easy to defend. Does that "two arms in the air" signify the part of the sky the ball is going to drop from?
3. Take Josh to one side and a) tell him where you want him to play, and b) tell him to relax. He gives the impression that the whole world is on his shoulders and he has to win the game every time he gets the ball. He is now realising he can't and is going deeper into his shell. You are the Manager - its your job to sort him out.
So there you have it - instant success.
Badger at 09:36:21 Monday September 22 2003
I'm at work now....in Dire-ones land.....little buggers have put gum in the computer disk drives.....Ted I take it all back now
Hotel Ender at 09:11:52 Monday September 22 2003
Ted @ 23 09. You were lucky. There were 24 of us living in septic tank at bottom of rubbish tip, an' evry week we add a load o rotting fish thrown all over us.
United Front at 08:41:45 Monday September 22 2003
I don't know where the myth that we currently have the best squad we have had for years comes from. Give me honest hard-working players like Hunt, Grayson, Warburton, Sampson (in his prime), even John Gayle - anytime!
Pihuan at 05:52:46 Monday September 22 2003
Enjoyed both the Ted baiting and the ripostes. As for football, it was dismal on Sat against a poor Macc outfit who looked ready to roll over for the first half hour, during which we should have scored several. Smith's injury at least means they will have to get in another striker, hopefully tall. It shows what a short sighted decision offloading Stamp was. Tom Youngs did well for a bit when he came on, but faded. He will score plenty for us but is another who needs a tall man to play off if he's in a striking role. It would be just like us to do well at Pompey then get stuffed on Saturday. We know what we'll get from Atko's boys, I think the defence is good enough, but what we will do for goals is another matter.
Badger at 23:57:37 Sunday September 21 2003
village boy.....can't you get broadband in dire-one land then ????
village boy at 23:55:27 Sunday September 21 2003
Giffs make this site load very slow.
Giffs at 23:48:30 Sunday September 21 2003
Giffs @ http://www.animfactory.com/index.html
Mrs Ted at 23:41:09 Sunday September 21 2003
I'm sending Ted to bed now, his got a bad head pain.
Pedant at 23:39:34 Sunday September 21 2003
Kid's education? Don't you meas 'Kids' (plural) rather than 'Kid's' (possessive)? Come on Ted, we didn't educate you so you could make such fundamental grammatic errors.
Tony B at 23:20:24 Sunday September 21 2003
Grim Reaper, How about Ted ????????
Middlebill at 23:18:09 Sunday September 21 2003
oooh, oooh, what's he coming back as?
Ted at 23:09:49 Sunday September 21 2003
Thrapston Cobbler..Talking about nutrition and finance.Another thing that really gets my goat is when people talk abot poverty in our country today.The only poverty is self inflicted poverty.Single mothers who utter their drivel about not having enough money to live on because they can't afford to buy designer trainers for their kids.Those who spend all their money on fags and lottery tickets and then complain that they haven't enough money to take their kids to McDonalds or to buy their convenience foods from the local Happy Shopper.What we need is a complete overhaul of the education system where we should get back to basics.Whats's the point of teaching kid's French when their knowledge of the English language amounts to being able to text their mates on their mobile phones in a primitive dialect.I grew up in real poverty where the Sunday roast lasted until Friday,and for new second-hand clothes we had to wait for the Merry Comrades Christmas bazaar at the Drill Hall.
Badger at 23:09:46 Sunday September 21 2003
Hodd's been sacked......just on sky news....about time....
Glenn at 22:48:55 Sunday September 21 2003
As an aside from the Ted bashing, it seems to me there's a possibility of something good coming from Smithy's injury - We'll have to get a striker (probably on loan) and play him alongside Youngs. A chance to have a look at someone new may well be the spark we need.
Badger at 22:24:11 Sunday September 21 2003
Ted..... your sure got them all going.....you must be a wind up...nobody could be as bad as you......or could they ????.....someone could end up bashing you at the next game....lighten up Ted or you will end up ONE FOOT IN YOUR GRAVE
Ted at 22:06:52 Sunday September 21 2003
Damien..Everyone had the same chance.I took mine,and that is why I have no conscience as I enjoy my comfortable lifestyle.When I was young I worked no less than 60 hours a week and very often without a day off.God bless Maggie!
Ted at 22:01:17 Sunday September 21 2003
You see it's the single brain cell brigade members like Mal with their Utopian delusions that wind me up.Do you honestly think that the pathetic youth of today would be taking up apprenticeships in the Mining,steel and Shipbuilding industries where they would have to dirty their hands.By the way it was Napoleon not Hitler.Tut Tut
Anon at 21:51:28 Sunday September 21 2003
Ted you are a selfish B**tard!
Damien at 21:37:13 Sunday September 21 2003
I find your last posting vulgar in the extreme Ted. It is precisely because of citizens like yourself that the country finds itself in the current situation. While you were embracing the 'I'm alright Jack' mentality promoted by Mrs. Thatcher you gave no thought to the future of the country, its infrastruture or it's youth. Your father's generation fought for these islands, what did you do in return? Fill your boots! Well I guess it is up to me and my contemporaries to clear up your mess and plan for the future.
Thrapston Cobbler at 21:18:56 Sunday September 21 2003
We're still waiting for your explanation on the enforced changes and the affect that had on team selection and our playing style TED! We also wait for you to tell us about nutrition and finance. Or is it supper time! And if I sound a little bitter can I have a bottle of light ale too?
Mal at 21:15:43 Sunday September 21 2003
No thought to the fact that Thatcher destroyed steel, coal, print, shipbuilding, engineering to name but a few industries that offered apprenticeships and thus creating tradesmen. Hitler said we were a nation of shopkeepers, sadly it took one of our own to prove him right. The only reason you despair about the young Ted is that you don't understand them, just like you don't understand football tactics. That's why you think Wilko is doing a good job!!
Anon at 20:57:17 Sunday September 21 2003
Classic Ted. LOL
Ted at 20:53:41 Sunday September 21 2003
Badger..I don't deliberately wind anyone up,but I despair on seeing what a bunch of losers the youngsters of today are. I actually blame the present government who seem to thrive in trying to make the no-hopers of today appear more intelligent than what they are.Unfortunately when the reality of life suddenly hit's them full in the face,and they realise that their GCSE in Tourism and Leisure and their NVQ in Brass Rubbing doesn't actually lead anywhere,they're consigned to the ever growing hooded under-class that walk the littered streets of Northampton.
Badger at 20:52:37 Sunday September 21 2003
The game is not all ticket.....tickets £15 on the night
Away Day at 20:44:50 Sunday September 21 2003
Im thinking about going Tuesday, is it all ticket, can you pay on arrival at Pompey, thanks
Middlebill at 20:29:09 Sunday September 21 2003
Kettering Kobbler: You are obviously the sort who "Runs with the crowd". Afraid to stand alone?
Middlebill at 20:27:41 Sunday September 21 2003
Puzzled Dan: Ask Kettering Kobbler how to spell Hyena! If you are trying to make a point about intelligence, it might be a good start by learning how to spell!
Middlebill at 20:25:14 Sunday September 21 2003
Dave: Death is just a short step away for us all. Careful where you walk!
Ted at 20:19:19 Sunday September 21 2003
Thrapston Cobbler...You are clearly bitter that I'm a self made man who was wise enough to take advantage of the good times during Maggies leadership which enables me to live the comfortable and rewarding life that I now lead.The secret is to never forget ones roots.I'm working class and proud of it.Just because I have a large bank balance and all the material possessions that I desire, I still enjoy a quiet drink in the Horse with good, honest, ordinary folk.While you lot are moaning about Wilko's tactics I'm once again packing my bags for yet another relaxing break away at the seaside,which will allow me to cross Fratton Park off my few remaining of the 92 clubs to visit.What a life I lead!
Spurs at 20:08:02 Sunday September 21 2003
Hoddle is on the way to manage Northampton town
portsmouth fan at 19:30:53 Sunday September 21 2003
Like lambs to the slaughter. You lot sound like no hopers. If your team play like you lot, we are in for a good night.
Bring on the Wobblers.
Kettering Kobbler at 19:18:46 Sunday September 21 2003
Middlebill IS a lobotomised hyena!
Puzzled Dan at 19:05:44 Sunday September 21 2003
Slimmartin, good point well put. dont listen 2 middlebill. his posts have all the inteligence of a labotomised hyaena.
Thrapston Cobbler at 19:03:54 Sunday September 21 2003
I see Ted is at it again! Having a pop at the young, telling us all what to eat and how to arrange our finances. Well come on then Ted, tell us! Just like yesterday when you were asked a direct question on football tactics you evaded the issue. Now tell us about nutrition and finance. I look forward to the bit where you tell me that I too can have a house in Far Cotton AND a caravan by the time I'm too old to remember my name. For such a wise student of the university of life you really are a dolt!
Dave at 18:58:44 Sunday September 21 2003
Middlebill, life is only to short because you are too old. You and Ted are the past and good riddance to you.
Middlebill at 18:35:24 Sunday September 21 2003
Stop, stop, you're killing me!
as for Middletwat at 18:21:14 Sunday September 21 2003
the words kettle, black and pot spring to mind
Eastander at 18:09:19 Sunday September 21 2003
OK heres an idea to make drawn games more attractive, and to solve the issue of 3 points in a game when there's a winner and 2 points if not. At the end of a drawn game the teams take part in a penalty competition the winner of which go home with an extra point. Certainly would have made yesterday more entertaining
Bexxy at 18:06:35 Sunday September 21 2003
Not being funny, but have you ever seen such a pathetic away following as the showing that were yesterdays Macclesfield fans??
Carlisle brought more on Tuesday night and they are near enough in Scotland and bottom of the league!!!
I know Macc are essentially a 'Conference team'...but that really was a cr@p away following!! They obviously expected a hammering...
Eastander at 18:04:58 Sunday September 21 2003
Can I ask a question. If Trollope can hit a ball as hard as he did on Tuesday and again yesterday tho the keeper held it this time, WHY are all his corners dolly lobs giving the keeper ages to get to the ball when what we really need are corners delivered with pace. On yesterdays game I have to admit I was bitterly disappointed with the result, Macclesfield are a typical poor div3 side who we should have put 5 or 6 past, Asamoah showed some invention when he was given the ball but otherwise no-one up front deserved any credit and whoever gave Dudfield MOM was watching a different game to me
Middlebill at 17:37:25 Sunday September 21 2003
Oh my god. Was that the abridged version? Oh well. I'll do without. I take it its about getting rid of Martin Wilkinson, it usually is. thanks for repeating the post cyber warrior!
village boy at 17:36:20 Sunday September 21 2003
But it may have been built in less than 100 years
VILLAGE BOY at 17:22:22 Sunday September 21 2003
Never mind lads Rome wasn't built in a season.
for the benefit of Middletwat at 17:13:24 Sunday September 21 2003
therealslimmartinW at 09:49:26 Sunday September 21 2003
You have to shake your head at the irony. While the natives get restless, the official site proclaims: "Cobblers keep 5 successive home clean sheets for the first time in 42 years" We are not to marvel at the blinding vision of our management team, the gripping matches, the attacking flair, the way we can dominate matches. What? No mention of underachievement? No, according to the NTFC central office: "The last time the Cobblers kept five successive clean sheets at home was in November/December 1961 when the side finished 8th in Division 3, before shortly afterwards beginning the meteoric rise up through the divisons, ending with that famous season in the old Division One in 1956/66 (QUOTE i know, long season)" So what we are saying is that somehow having five home clean sheets is an indicator that we are going somewhere. Excuse me while I wash the knickers that are now yellow from the excitement of that knowledge. I can imagine the TV advertising campaign now. Cobblers: We don't concede. The crowds will come flooding back. That was one of the positives Wilko got out of the game. Then Wilko goes one about needing a goalscorer saying that Luke Beckett is out of the running because of serious injury. I think he was out of the running because they wanted silly money for him. And hooray, Wilko is "prepared to say" that we still need a midfield player. Fantastic. What some of us have been saying for months. No guile in midfield. Lots of what I would call average hardworking central midfield players but nobody with the x-factor. "The expectations are that we will win every game, but it's not like that," he says. "I honestly truly believe that we will get promoted this season. I would say to the fans, can you see progress over the last few months? I think we can." The expectations are that with the money that is now available, which eclipses other clubs resources we should be in a position where we are thinking of play offs never mind struggle to reach them. He forgets that we know Kevin Wilson managed automatic promotion a few seasons ago with NO money and playing decent football. Anyone comparing then with now will be able to appreciate what improvement there has been. Which is there hasnt been any. Olney Cobbler makes interesting commments about performances this season being not better than last season. Because Wilko is actually getting better results this season. However that is in the context of an inferior division. One of the concerns that hasnt been addressed in the general wetting of the knickers that persisted since we started signing loads of players is that we had players that had played in a Third Division promotion-winning side that either got given the boot or effectively got sidelined and those that are still involved must have feel let down by the manager's "out with the old in with the new" comments about reshaping the team before the season started. At no point did he ever say that those that are already had a major part to play which is a big mistake when you are still having to rely on players like Harsley, last season's player of the year who not surprisingly is now out of sorts. There was not a thought that we had already players with experience of success at the level we are now in. Goater has not convinced as a Prem player, but if you were in the First, would you be pulling your hair out if he was in your team. Of course not. So to a great extent we threw the baby out with the bathwater and expected those that came in to swim. And what of the calibre of those he brought in. Smith has done nothing to suggest he will be a top scorer in this division. Richards has no track record and is a gamble, albeit one worth taking, but has by no means set the Third alight. Dudfield is a player who could not get into the Hull side. And now Wilko is saying these players he has brought in arent good enough, because we still need a goalscorer. It's a joke. Except it is not funny. 0-0 against a Macclesfield side rooted to the bottom run of the Third Division ladder is just not good enough when Wilko himself raised expectations by having the clear out it the first place. We have a muppet for a manager. A bagman for a boss. The equivalent of Barry from Fame Academy. Can't sing. But in all seriousness, if he is not moved aside, we will be in danger of failing to get out of the Third at the first attempt which would be shocking. God Save the Cobblers for with Wilko there really is no future in Northampton's dreaming. We mean it maan.
Tag at 17:12:45 Sunday September 21 2003
vultures/vintagecobbler/ted whatever you call yourself at any moment... try to post without f..ing resorting to abuse. to say i take glory in our failure is absurd and if it were true then why on earth do i pay my money to watch week in week out. i would have to be some kind of masochist. as much as you may find the posts i place are tedious people will find yours equally so. because you actually have nothing to say except to criticise those who comment on the team. i dont make the point with as much fire as slim or others do, but i know one thing, Martin Wilkinson is a big mistake and those who bury their heads in the sand and ignore the facts are missing the point. Vulture says, when you look at their comments in an historic sense (ie Fash, Di Stefano, Wilson and Broadhurst) What do you notice? Tep you guessed it they spouted crap then and were proved wrong. Sorry but i didnt post here then. dont know who you or indeed what you are talking about. and I certianly not saying Wilkinson is the best manager in the world, no. He is one of the worst. so it seems despite the boring repetition you cant quite get the message right. and vultures, it is cowardly to hide under an anonymous psuedonym, you will find. On and learn to spell.
Middlebill at 16:26:06 Sunday September 21 2003
Can anybody tell me what the realslimmatinw said, (briefly). I have a rule, if the post is bigger than my screen, I don't read it. Life's too short.
Anon at 15:44:52 Sunday September 21 2003
You sad knob Ted. I see you didn't give any answers to those questions yesterday.
Ted at 15:30:17 Sunday September 21 2003
Good post Anon.What it does show is how thick a lot of our fans really are.However it's not only our fans, but football fans in general.There is also another much wider issue here,the issue of patience.Considering the awful recent history of the club both on and off the field,progress has undoubtedly been made.Unfortunately as in many aspects of present day life,people just can't wait for what they want.Everything has to be instantaneous.It's the very reason that we have so many social problems today.For instance people can't wait for dinner,so they go down to McDonalds or Burger King and fill themselves with unhealthy crap.They can't save up for anything so they go down to DFS and get a settee on credit where you don't start paying until the settee's worn out.I despair sometimes for the future!
Anon at 13:54:45 Sunday September 21 2003
Two scenarios. 1) We win. Everyone's happy. Played well. A couple of people have a pop at a couple of players, that's all. 2) We lose. And it's 'Wilko out'. We are crap. No goalscorer, playing like a pub team. No wonder we aren't gonna get anywhere with the suppoort we have. For god sake, Wilko would probably admit he isn't the best manager we could have, but hey, this is his job and he doing his best. I don't see many people having a pop at Richard Hill, the man squarely behind most of the tactics. Get real people and support the club. We are in Division Three. No said we were gonna breeze it with a new team, so bring your expectations down a peg and be thankful we are not bottom, becuase at times we have played like we are. If there were a league of "supporters" we wouldn't be anywhere near the position we are.
Vintage Cobbler at 13:48:42 Sunday September 21 2003
Good stuff Vulture. My point of concern is that we may offloaded a decent forward called Stamp without having a replacement. I have to say I think this was a poor managerial decision but that aside I find the postings of RSMW and others with that one message very tedious.
vultures at 13:36:33 Sunday September 21 2003
Tag and realslimartin really piss me off. They circle like vultures around Wilko waiting for every little slip. When we win they fly off into the distance, but then even a 0-0 draw brings em back to their prey. Telling us Wilko is not the best manager in the world is like saying Martin Smith is no Van Nisteroy. The pair of them are low life cowards, both fully signed up to the smug "We told you so" brigade. And when you look at their comments in an historic sense (ie Fash, Di Stefano, Wilson and Broadhurst) What do you notice? Tep you guessed it they spouted crap then and were proved wrong. I look forward to constructive criticism, particullarly when it is aimed at anylzing where we are going wrong. But when its just "Its all Wilko's fault" then its boring repetative and futile.
Puzzled Dan at 12:36:59 Sunday September 21 2003
Madrid, I understand waht tag is getting at and slimmartinw. team against Torquay first match, was Thompson, Chambers, Clark, Reid, Willmott, Low, Reeves, Trollope, Dudfield, Smith, Richards. a few tinkerings in next few matches but by out th game against Doncaster we had the reject old boys, who were give the elbow back, Sammo, Harsley + Hargreaves. The ones as slimmartinw rightly puts it r bound to feel a big put out. Now we have Carrauthers back, another so called old boy but harsley is dropped. while it would be wrong 2 say there have been dramatic changes in personnel, i have to agree with slimmartin about the motivation of the old players. because when we have had 2 rely on the old boys they havent really performed + really cannot be motivated 2 do so when put 2 one side as they were.
Madrid Cobbler at 12:10:49 Sunday September 21 2003
Even without a good memory to help me Tag I'm pretty sure we start every game with the same eleven we start with. I think injuries to Wilmott and Reeves in particular HAVE had an effect. Why do we always seem to pick up more injuries than other teams anyway? Having said that I have never thought Wilkinson would be good enough as a manager, but just hoped that having better players would pull us through despite him.
Rob Dunkley at 12:07:47 Sunday September 21 2003
I agree Wilkinson is a nice bloke. But it is clear he is not cut out to be our manager, I have no problem with his contribution from spotting players and getting them to the club, that shows his strengths as a scout. It seems to me even if Wilko is a tactical genius he has problems communicating what he actually wants to the players. It is all very well saying give him more time - if we lose our next two away games then he will have the same record as Ye Brumkins when he was fired. That season Atkins had very little money to play with having spent loads on crooked defenders the previous season. Atkins was hounded out after 10 games. The spin from the club is a joke we may have kept clean sheets but did Darlo, Carlisle, Macc look like scoring? Wilko moans about injuries - the main area of trouble have been the defence and bar Hudds and Chelt they have still done the business. I trust the Cardozas to make a rational decision - the other aspect which must concern them is the falling crowds - why because we are playing pants football.
Rodders from Rushden at 12:02:46 Sunday September 21 2003
Just to cheer you all up why don't you come round to my place for Sunday dinner? For starters we'll eat my little sister, we do it every week she loves the sensation. Then for a special treat I'll let you tuck into my Granny yummeeee.
R&DFC at 11:56:21 Sunday September 21 2003
We don't mind if we don't get promoted this year, consolidate that's what we'll do. What about you chaps? Ah well there's always next year, ho hum!
MK Cobbler at 11:51:44 Sunday September 21 2003
Worrying that Smith will be out for so long. As for the usual topic of Wilkison, I am sure that if the Cardozas decide it is not working and is unlikely to work then a change will be made. Like any manager (maybe more so at NTFC than most places in recent history)he has a limited shelf life and only the question is the expiry date. I hate to see a throughly decent guy who in the main has attracted quality players hounded out of his job but I have to admit the level of performance needs to pick up quickly. Carlisle & Macclesfield should have been 6 comfortable points.
Tag at 11:49:12 Sunday September 21 2003
Fed up with the performance. Macc played with five at the back, clearly looking to secure a draw because of their horrendous league position and we do not adapt to that. If you are faced with five at the back you have to increase you attacking options to counter that. I am getting roundly sick of the continual debate about Wilko myself but it will go on until he is stuck in the dustbin of failed managers for good. Can anyone please tell me when we have started a game with the same eleven we started with. This changeling policy might work for Chelsea, who lets face it have a few more games to play, but we don't have any level of consistency in our games because we don't have any consistency of team selection. Asamoah suddenly appears from nowhere to comeon as sub but I have to say we don't play with any conviction because we don't have a core side. If you are going to have a new set of players, you have to give them time to settle in and play with each other but we never give them that chance because we never start with anything the like the same 11 each week and it is not an injury issue. As for slimmartin, don't listen to those who slag you off for stating what I think is the bleeding obvious very convincinly. I heard Wilkinson's comments about needing a goalscorer and have to say that it does beggar belief that he can say that when bringing in at least THREE if you include Youngs 4. Its the ramblings of a man who should look to himself.
Anon at 11:34:29 Sunday September 21 2003
Anon, I think you will find that for most it is the subject, grow up.
hadafeelinganononesubjectborewouldreappear at 11:32:36 Sunday September 21 2003
Ashcobb, interesting post, but it goes without saying that there are times that more experienced 'so called journeymen' can sometimes do you a better job than players with no experience at this level.
Anon at 09:59:33 Sunday September 21 2003
had a feeling that realslim one subject bore would re-appear this morning.
Ashcobb at 09:58:04 Sunday September 21 2003
There was something reassuringly familiar about yesterday. Something that suggests that we have an unstoppable gravitational pull to be an average 3rd division side in spite of everything. The last few seasons in the second division tend to erase our memories that for the majority of our history where we are is where we have been. Those occasional memories that we are something different, Colchester (Home), Port Vale (Home), Cardiff (Away) last season, will sit fondly in the memory of us becoming something we have never regularly been. The manner of the game was also familiar. Largely solid in defense but a lot of huff and puff going forward without the quality and composure to convert into goals. The exciting different thing about where we are is that we have a collection of young and gifted footballers as opposed to the collection of journeymen that have been with us for the majority of our mediocre history. I keep the faith that the obvious potential can be blended into an exciting unit to take make the 5 year plan become a reality. This task is largely with the management team who are fighting against an enormous gravitational pull. They may not be the right pair. Anyone has an almighty challenge to turn us into something we have never historically been
therealslimmartinW at 09:49:26 Sunday September 21 2003
You have to shake your head at the irony. While the natives get restless, the official site proclaims: "Cobblers keep 5 successive home clean sheets for the first time in 42 years" We are not to marvel at the blinding vision of our management team, the gripping matches, the attacking flair, the way we can dominate matches.
What? No mention of underachievement? No, according to the NTFC central office: "The last time the Cobblers kept five successive clean sheets at home was in November/December 1961 when the side finished 8th in Division 3, before shortly afterwards beginning the meteoric rise up through the divisons, ending with that famous season in the old Division One in 1956/66 (QUOTE i know, long season)" So what we are saying is that somehow having five home clean sheets is an indicator that we are going somewhere. Excuse me while I wash the knickers that are now yellow from the excitement of that knowledge. I can imagine the TV advertising campaign now. Cobblers: We don't concede. The crowds will come flooding back. That was one of the positives Wilko got out of the game. Then Wilko goes one about needing a goalscorer saying that Luke Beckett is out of the running because of serious injury. I think he was out of the running because they wanted silly money for him. And hooray, Wilko is "prepared to say" that we still need a midfield player. Fantastic. What some of us have been saying for months. No guile in midfield. Lots of what I would call average hardworking central midfield players but nobody with the x-factor. "The expectations are that we will win every game, but it's not like that," he says. "I honestly truly believe that we will get promoted this season. I would say to the fans, can you see progress over the last few months? I think we can." The expectations are that with the money that is now available, which eclipses other clubs resources we should be in a position where we are thinking of play offs never mind struggle to reach them. He forgets that we know Kevin Wilson managed automatic promotion a few seasons ago with NO money and playing decent football. Anyone comparing then with now will be able to appreciate what improvement there has been. Which is there hasnt been any. Olney Cobbler makes interesting commments about performances this season being not better than last season. Because Wilko is actually getting better results this season. However that is in the context of an inferior division. One of the concerns that hasnt been addressed in the general wetting of the knickers that persisted since we started signing loads of players is that we had players that had played in a Third Division promotion-winning side that either got given the boot or effectively got sidelined and those that are still involved must have feel let down by the manager's "out with the old in with the new" comments about reshaping the team before the season started. At no point did he ever say that those that are already had a major part to play which is a big mistake when you are still having to rely on players like Harsley, last season's player of the year who not surprisingly is now out of sorts. There was not a thought that we had already players with experience of success at the level we are now in. Goater has not convinced as a Prem player, but if you were in the First, would you be pulling your hair out if he was in your team. Of course not. So to a great extent we threw the baby out with the bathwater and expected those that came in to swim. And what of the calibre of those he brought in. Smith has done nothing to suggest he will be a top scorer in this division. Richards has no track record and is a gamble, albeit one worth taking, but has by no means set the Third alight. Dudfield is a player who could not get into the Hull side. And now Wilko is saying these players he has brought in arent good enough, because we still need a goalscorer. It's a joke. Except it is not funny. 0-0 against a Macclesfield side rooted to the bottom run of the Third Division ladder is just not good enough when Wilko himself raised expectations by having the clear out it the first place. We have a muppet for a manager. A bagman for a boss. The equivalent of Barry from Fame Academy. Can't sing. But in all seriousness, if he is not moved aside, we will be in danger of failing to get out of the Third at the first attempt which would be shocking. God Save the Cobblers for with Wilko there really is no future in Northampton's dreaming. We mean it maan.
Middlebill at 09:09:48 Sunday September 21 2003
How funny at 03.40: And you've made my morning mate. Cheers.
Vintage Cobbler at 09:09:13 Sunday September 21 2003
I am not shouting for Wilko's head like many on this board (where has this got us over the years?)but I thought yesterday was poor, no invention and no forward capable of sticking the ball in the net. A bad miss by Dudfield in the second half summed it up. Meanwhile Stamp is scoring goals against defences that I doubt are worse than those of Carlisle and Macclesfield. Makes me wonder why Stamp was not given the chance to play alongside Smith.
Crazy Horse at 07:48:05 Sunday September 21 2003
If Smithy is out for so long someone wants shooting! I saw him pull up on Tuesday v Carlisle holding the back of his thigh and was surprised that he didn't come off. He must of known what it was and if the physio knew and Hill/Wilko knew then all were gambling by letting him play yesterday. Some gamble, 6-8 weeks out!!!!!
Anon at 07:41:07 Sunday September 21 2003
Our performances are getting worse, not better, so much for the players needing to 'gel'.
how funny at 03:40:32 Sunday September 21 2003
glen you are right mate,our corners are awful. i had to laugh at middlebill's suggestion of training mayhem when practising though.made my night mate.!!
Crucial we need strikers at 23:27:05 Saturday September 20 2003
Stamp appears to be enjoying himself now surely the level is not that different? left Gabbi -Parkin -Howard = now scorers-
Rob Dunkley at 23:00:28 Saturday September 20 2003
POSITIVES: Chris Carruthers looked much better attacking today and put in some good crosses. Why the hell aren't he and Luke allowed to to take corners.
NEGATIVES: We are clueless without Smith. Low went off the boil again, we lack creaitivity in midfield, Dudfield looks lost playing without Smith. Wilko took off Burgess and we had no midfield. Macclesfield were awful. We have yet to face a big gun at home - why so much official site spin on these clean sheets!
A Childs View at 22:37:25 Saturday September 20 2003
No one's got anything to say about the game then? Smithy out for 6-8 weeks according to official site, along with Richards - that just about xxxxx it up right up! I was optimistic at the start of today, a reversion to 442 and a not too bad line up, however, I left the game thinking there's a lot more wrong than the line up and tactics, the players look gutless and as though they don't want to play for Wilko and Hill. We were shit today, the football being served up is dross and the only the most niaive and blind fan could support it and say we are making progress. Please get rid of this muppet who is managing to turn good players into bad and almost sending me to sleep every time I have the misfortune of a home game coming around. I'm off to Oxford next Sat but Lord knows why, Wilko's team even manages to make Atkins' tactics look adventurous. Please, please just get rid of him, advertise the job and choose from the best candidate. Without Smith there's not much to look forward to for the next few games. Wilko - just xxxx off and stop ruining my club!!!
Middlebill at 22:33:41 Saturday September 20 2003
The trouble is, when Trollope tries that tactic with Thomson on the training pitch, he causes all sorts of problems.
Glenn at 22:01:39 Saturday September 20 2003
I'm sure most people were in awe and transfixed by the random refereeing today, but did anyone else notice Trollope's 100th consecutive awful corner today. Don't get me wrong - I think he's been one of our best players this season, but most goalkeepers think that a flighted ball into the six-yard box is fairly easy pickings. Surely something can be done in training to make our corners a bit more threatening?
Ted at 19:58:55 Saturday September 20 2003
Thick Cobbler..The silent majority I believe.Anyway,the old vicar of St Mary's told me"Always enter through the narrow gate Ted for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,and many enter through it.But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life ,and only a few find it.
Bexxy at 19:50:15 Saturday September 20 2003
When I was just a little girl/boy,
I asked my mother, "What will I be ?
Will I be pretty/handsome ?
Will I be rich ?"
Here's what she said to me :
"Que Sera, Sera
Whatever will be, will be,
The future's not ours to see,
What will be, will be."
Then I grew up and fell in love,
I asked my sweetheart, 'what lies ahead?
Will we have rainbows, day after day?
Here's what my sweetheart said:
Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be
Now I have children of my own
They ask their mother what will I be
Will I be handsome, will I be rich?
I tell them tenderly
"Que Sera, Sera
Whatever will be, will be,
The future's not ours to see,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera"
(And before you ask... YES!!! I have been drinking!! LOL!!)
Thick Cobbler at 19:45:24 Saturday September 20 2003
You must realise that you are in the minority Ted concerning your supporting of Wilko.
Ted at 19:40:15 Saturday September 20 2003
I'm back.Anyone else want to make a fool of himself.
Thrapston/Olney/Boughton Cobbler/Montague Jefferey at 19:30:48 Saturday September 20 2003
Slowly but surely Ted is being sussed out for the fraud that he is. He accuses Ralp2 of being naieve and then fails miserably to explain the affect injuries have had upon tactics and performance. Ted then tells Thrapston Cobbler that he (Ted) is richer than him and when he realises he has lost the argument turns to wisdom as the true test of wealth. Well thanks for that Ted, WE knew that already but you lack of wisdom is exposed time and again but you toughtless statements. And have been slaughtered he then tells us he has to go as Mrs Ted has his tea ready. Is this the downtrodden woman who knows her place or just a convenient 'get out'. I suspect we all know who wears the trousers in Ted Towers and it ain't Ted. By the way Southsea is a s**thole, went there once and thought it the pits, been holidaying in the Windies ever since. Toodle-loo.
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Ralph2 at 19:18:38 Saturday September 20 2003
We did indeed beat Darlington Ted but to my memory the game was awfull and ended up with very frustrated supporters booing there own player (one of which I was not) He should have stuck to his initial tactics instead of changing them for the Darlo game.
The House at 19:17:32 Saturday September 20 2003
Answer Ted, answer.
Ted at 19:16:11 Saturday September 20 2003
Anyway got to go now.Mrs Ted's shouted Dinner and she's cooked my favourite.Beef Cobbler.
Maggie at 19:16:01 Saturday September 20 2003
Mind you coalfields are as scarce as tories nowadays!
Arthur at 19:15:13 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted you are as popular as a tory in a coalfield.
Norman at 19:14:17 Saturday September 20 2003
Is that it Ted!! I thought you were going to elucidate a bit. Tell us about the varying formations. The debate about 4-4-2 v 3-4-1-2. Anyone can list the injured players. I am surprised at your naievety!!
Ted at 19:13:55 Saturday September 20 2003
Ralph 2..Didn't we beat Darlington and lose to York?
Ralph2 at 19:12:01 Saturday September 20 2003
Somebody is impersonating me Ted but 19.10.20 is myself.
Ted at 19:11:35 Saturday September 20 2003
It's nice to know that I'm more popular than Pop Idol.
TV Watcher at 19:10:53 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted will tell you he's watching Simon Rattle on BBC2. Snob that he is!
Ralph2 at 19:10:20 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted, the squad for the Darlington game was stronger than that for the York game,so, not enforced changes but a wilkoism. Check todays programme. You can resort to insults all you like sir, I'll be there at Oxford on Saturday if you'd like to talk about it.
Ted at 19:08:20 Saturday September 20 2003
Clarke,Willmott,Westwood,Reeves,Richards and now Smith.
Robbie at 19:08:00 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted's probably watching pop idol now TC. It's a TV programme for the young and young at heart. Ted is neither.
Ralph2 at 19:06:49 Saturday September 20 2003
Come on Ted, tell us all about these enforced changes.
Thrapston Cobbler at 19:06:07 Saturday September 20 2003
I'm still waiting to find out what pop idol is!
Anon at 19:03:34 Saturday September 20 2003
come on Edward, we're waiting!
Boughton Cobbler at 19:02:08 Saturday September 20 2003
Or a decent amount of cash to buy a boat or flying lessons instead of a poxy old caravan!
Ted at 19:01:09 Saturday September 20 2003
Montague Jefferey...Wrong,but I have a cap with NTFC on that I always wear with pride.
It's times like this when you are so grateful for attending the university of life at 19:00:23 Saturday September 20 2003
A hush decends across the entire board waiting to hear the pearls of wisdom from chairman Ted on why enforced changes have affected team performance.
Ted at 18:57:29 Saturday September 20 2003
Boughton Cobbler..I most certainly will wave .Myself,I prefer two feet on solid ground.If God wanted us to float he would have given us flippers,and if he wanted us to fly he'd have given us wings.
Ralph2 at 18:57:19 Saturday September 20 2003
Sorry for being naive Ted. Perhaps you can talk me through the enforced changes and the effect that this had had on our performances?
Don at 18:55:37 Saturday September 20 2003
Wimbledon v Burnley next week at Milton Keynes!
Ted at 18:52:32 Saturday September 20 2003
Ralph 2..Sometimes your naivety does surprise me.Look at the enforced changes since those games that you mentioned!
Anon at 18:49:55 Saturday September 20 2003
and a wanker under it as well?
Thrapston Cobbler at 18:49:38 Saturday September 20 2003
Pop idol Ted? Please elucidate.
Montague Jefferey at 18:48:31 Saturday September 20 2003
I bet Ted has a cap with an anchor on it!
Ted at 18:47:55 Saturday September 20 2003
Thrapston Cobbler..Go and watch Pop Idol and know your limitations.
Boughton Cobbler at 18:46:47 Saturday September 20 2003
I am going to the Portsmouth game too Ted, taking a few days off from the office in London. My father has a yacht moored at Southampton so we'll probably make the most of it too as the weather is set fair next week. We will take her over to Cowes probably, gives us a wave from Southsea old chap. Toodle-loo for now.
Ralph2 at 18:46:15 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted,Ted,Ted. you don't really me mean that surely. I admitt I am very naive when it comes to the tactical side of the game, formations in particular but since the York game the tactics have been awful. I cannot for the life of me understand why he changed things, i got to the Torquay and Norwich games and loved the football we were playing but oh no Wilko decides to knock it on the head as we had only scored 1 goal in the first 3. The man made his biggest mistake there in my opinion, he should have stuck to his guns, the goals would have come.For me, the biggest problem comes now because he will go but who do we replace him with. Kinnears name seems to be touted around but I'm not sure he is the right person. We also have to persuade the right person to come and join us, why on earth would they? we are currently another duff 3rd division team.
Woober Groober at 18:43:16 Saturday September 20 2003
Paid up member of the caravan club! Whatever next crevats and blazers are us?
William at 18:42:09 Saturday September 20 2003
Methinks Ted protests too much!
Thrapston Cobbler at 18:40:58 Saturday September 20 2003
Your class shows through everytime Ted by discussing wealth, it is so vulgar! You can go along thinking you are richer than most but most are younger than you and will probably live long enough to see success at the club. Who will be richer then?
Ted at 18:40:14 Saturday September 20 2003
I'm actually a paid up member of the Caravan Club(www.caravanclub.co.uk/)This has it's benefits as I'm borrowing a fellow members caravan in Southsea enabling me to attend the Portsmouth game.You don't know what you're missing!
Anon at 18:36:54 Saturday September 20 2003
nothing short of dire in the second half
Ted at 18:33:52 Saturday September 20 2003
Get Real Ted..If you only knew the truth!
Anon at 18:32:32 Saturday September 20 2003
After a life time of grafting Ted lives in far cotton and has a caravan. I see it all now, Ted's a pikey!
Get Real Ted at 18:31:30 Saturday September 20 2003
Is that why you live in Far Cotton and holiday in a caravan!?
Ted at 18:31:02 Saturday September 20 2003
It's like lambs to the slaughter!
John Boy at 18:30:02 Saturday September 20 2003
Martin Smith has badly tweaked his hamstring and could be out for three weeks!
Ralph2 at 18:29:16 Saturday September 20 2003
I was going to try and justify my phraseology BC but I can't. I probably meant talks a good fight.
Ted at 18:29:02 Saturday September 20 2003
Thrapston Cobbler..I bet I'm considerably richer than yow.
Anon at 18:27:47 Saturday September 20 2003
TED, what are you on? You are now telling Ralphy he can't comment 'cos he wasn't at the game today. What a fascist!! Whatever next? Ralph you keep posting mate, these 'wannabe upper-class wankers' do my head in!
Thrapston Cobbler at 18:25:26 Saturday September 20 2003
university of life my arse!! You went to comprehensive and probably longed to have gone to public school. You yearn to be part of the establishment but the truth is Ted you been shagged soppy by the tories who have left you out to dry. You can't see it but it comes through each time you post, you are old England and those that run old England couldn't give a stuff about you. Be proud of where you came from and your background and stop waving a bloody caravan in Southwold under our noses as a measure of your success, it is hardly worth boasting about and besides, it's getting embarassing.
Ted at 18:24:20 Saturday September 20 2003
Ralph 2..I take it that you didn't go today as you couln't possibly have got back home in that time.You didn't go, so you can't comment!
Anon at 18:23:03 Saturday September 20 2003
I always thought Hill played for us and then Watford. Maybe I was wrong. Old Sven Goron had a glittering playing carrear didnt he?
Boughton Cobbler at 18:19:51 Saturday September 20 2003
Wilko talk a good game Ralph!!!???? That's exactly his problem, he can't talk at all. His radio interviews are embarassing and contradictory which leaves us, and I suspect the players, totally confused. Hill and Wilko both bollocked Reid and Carruthers for not playing the ball to feet and fifteen minutes later bollocked the same pair for knocking it long. DIABOLICAL!! Neither man has played the game at any level nor won a major trophy so it is going to be massively difficult to earn the respect of these players, particularly when we are underperfoming. The performances are going backwards and Hill and Wilkinson are running out of ideas I'm afraid. Ted calls anyone who does not tow his sychophantic party line, I'd sooner be vermine than a working class tory (although the two are probably very similar).
Ted at 18:14:29 Saturday September 20 2003
Thrapston Cobbler..My altruism comes from wisdom gained from graduation from the university of life.There is no substance in your postings,but there again what do expect from another THICK Cobbler.Wilko certainly got that one right!
Olney Cobbler at 18:12:04 Saturday September 20 2003
ANON, so typical of the faceless and gutless wonders that haunt this board. The moment you post anything that is considered negative you are told to 'fuck-off'. Well if you and the manager carry on you might well find that another few hundred turn their backs on the club, but you shouldn't be surprised or critical when it does happen. As for me I will continue to follow this club through thin and thinner. I have yet to miss a game this season and have my tickets for Tuesday and next Saturday. If you want we can meet up on Tuesday night and discuss this face to face or will you be behind your PC? In the meantime I will continue to cheer my team on and voice my opinions here or anywhere else I like.
Ralph2 at 18:09:29 Saturday September 20 2003
Ted, from what I have seen this season, Wilko may talk a good game but I personally think he is unable to convey these thoughts to the players or at least i hope he hasn't told them to play as they have been a lot of the time.If Wilko can't get the players to play as he wants then doesn't that go down as poor man management or is he just a very poor manager? I don't think he has the overall skills to do the job he currently has and would like to see Mr Cardoza replace him if possible.I like to think I am not a ranter and try to be objective, do I qualify as vermin?
Anon at 18:07:43 Saturday September 20 2003
3 cheers for wilko. keep him manager at sixfields. he goes me and my mates go too
Thrapston Cobbler at 18:07:17 Saturday September 20 2003
Blind faith in your leaders Ted is liable to get you shot. I've read enough posts by you to understand that you always back those in charge/power to the hilt, as is your right. Your altruism is to be commended. BUT I happen to think that leadership is always there to be questioned and examined. I never want to be a Lion led by a donkey and neither do I want our club to be!
Anon at 18:05:29 Saturday September 20 2003
So the negativity stretches to Olney.I tell you what.You go to Milton Keynes and watch the team that loses every week.
Phil at 18:04:17 Saturday September 20 2003
GEE at 07:59:07 Saturday September 20 2003. The answer is Simon Sturridge went on loan to Shrewsbury the last time we were in div 3
Olney Cobbler at 18:02:55 Saturday September 20 2003
Very dissapointing performance today and our approach to the game and 'style' of play will do nothing to tempt back the stay away fans, the crowd was barely 4,000 on Tuesday and not much more today. Wimbledon kick-off in Milton Keynes next week too!! Wilko sounded like a haunted man on the radio this evening and refused to answer any 'negative' questions, the sooner the inevitable happens the sooner we can get on with the season. We have lost our way and recent performances are no better than those of last season under MW. Even the ball boys were useless today and they are indicative of the 'rot' that still exists in the club. The Cardoza's must see this and know that a complete shakedown is required to rid the club of the spectre of failure. We have got to stop being cosy and nice and become professional in every sense of the word before this season has pased us by and our five year plan becomes a four year plan!!
Anon at 17:55:37 Saturday September 20 2003
face it guys, ok full credit for the defensive record, but teams are hardly coming here and playing all out attacking football are they, i mean donny a couple of weeks springs to mind, 2nd half all over us and could have had a couple but we held out!!
Ted at 17:54:19 Saturday September 20 2003
Thrapston Cobbler..You very conveniently forgot the most important point.The house isn't finished,infact it's only just started.
Thrapston Cobbler at 17:51:07 Saturday September 20 2003
So half a job done is alright by you Ted? You buy a house without a roof or buy a car with no engine, neither are much use and neither were we today. It was such a poor spectacle today.
. at 17:48:33 Saturday September 20 2003
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Ted at 17:47:46 Saturday September 20 2003
Lacked quality in the final third,and paid for poor finishing.Very poor opposition ,who like every other team that have come to Sixfields apart from Norwich,came for a draw.We could and should have won but didn't,and once again the vermin will crawl out of the woodwork.However as anon says , defensively at home we are sound,which to me is half the job done .It is actually the best home defensive record since 1961 so how on earth can you call for the managers head.
Anon at 17:43:14 Saturday September 20 2003
forget portsmouth it doesnt really count, but the next two, oxford away and then hull at home, very crucial to ilkos future here i feel!!
Anon at 17:41:10 Saturday September 20 2003
Stamp got 2 more bloody goals today !
Anon at 17:38:26 Saturday September 20 2003
face it. he doesnt get the best out of the players
Anon at 17:38:12 Saturday September 20 2003
and scored about 3
Anon at 17:36:57 Saturday September 20 2003
How on earth can you sack a manager who's team let's in 1 goal at home in 9 hours football.Grow up!
WILKO OUT - NOW!! at 17:28:38 Saturday September 20 2003
Well what did you make of that Middlebill? Let me give you a few words - turgid, bereft, clueless, verbose, aimless, gutless, naive, ponderous, leaderless, boring, dull and a complete waste of money.
Lyndes at 15:19:38 Saturday September 20 2003
Lets get behind them, it's Hilly's 40th birthday so let's give him a day to remember.
Sean from London at 15:15:54 Saturday September 20 2003
The only reason that Boro and R&D seem above us is because we have been on our knees too long. This season is the start of our rise.
And our progress depends on us and not on other teams. I don't wish them any ill-will but basically who cares about the others?
The Majority Of Cobblers at 14:43:35 Saturday September 20 2003
I have no feelings either way towards the Diamonds. Ther'll only ever be one true enemy for me and that's P*sh
Milddlebill at 14:03:47 Saturday September 20 2003
Oh and Lucy, Pot/kettle? It is you on our boards, not me on yours!
Middlebill at 13:47:15 Saturday September 20 2003
ANON at 13.19. Nobody knows what you know because nobdy knows who you are. Unlike you, I have the guts and confidence to put my name on a posting. Until you have the common decency to do the same, please refrain from addressing me.
LUCY at 13.26. I hate you and you ilk just as much as Griggs hates the Cobblers. Is that clear enough for you?
. at 13:38:51 Saturday September 20 2003
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Lucy at 13:26:57 Saturday September 20 2003
You call us 'the village people' Middlebill and you consider US as the enemy, very flattering. So typical of the 'small town mindedness' so prevalent among the elderly supporters of NTFC (towny and Ted are just the same). So long as you consider Rushden as the enemy and concern yourselves so much about our well being I am sure that you will remain exactly what you have virtually always been, third division.
Anon at 13:19:43 Saturday September 20 2003
Middlebill, you don't understand the basic rudiments of the beautiful game yet so my advice is forget about the bingy fireman thing until you do.
Badger at 12:23:57 Saturday September 20 2003
I like village boy, he gives us all a big laugh, so I hope he keeps on spouting off on here..... anyway he needs someone to talk to....
Can't make the game today.... I hope we do well.....UP THE COBBS
Pedant at 12:19:57 Saturday September 20 2003
Real slim is a bit quiet recently, lets hope we lose so he has something to crow about.
Kettering boy at 12:15:52 Saturday September 20 2003
village boy:- if a player like Onandi Lowe joined the cobblers then he would be taking a step forwords for himself, because he will be on a lot more £'s per week and i am in no doubt that the Cobblers will if not this year will be in div 2.
Ted at 11:02:11 Saturday September 20 2003
Village boy..I suggest that the reason you frequent this board so much, is that you are becoming truly rattled at the prospect of the Gravy Train heading towards the buffers.You insult the intelligence of Lowe and the other First Class passengers who know that the Irthlingborough Express has pulled into it's final station...All change!
Middlebill at 10:29:55 Saturday September 20 2003
Me neither. I don't get the fireman bit (Pete Hendridge), nor for that matter, the bingy (Madness) bit either. I guess it stems back from a time before I came on this forum. Perhaps one of the older posters could enlighten us?
Ralph2 at 10:25:20 Saturday September 20 2003
I certainly admire firemen for the job they do, other than that I still can't get a hook on your sense of humour, John.
Ralph2 at 10:00:26 Saturday September 20 2003
No need to apologise mate, maybe i too will grow to dislike them, I just haven't got round to it yet.
pete hendridge at 09:40:23 Saturday September 20 2003
Ralph2 at 09:24:50 Saturday September 20 2003 you are a lover of firemen............so there
Middlebill at 09:34:15 Saturday September 20 2003
Giving "Credit" to Rushden is a bit like saying, "You've got to admire those Germans, they certainly made a good job out of bombing the hell out of London during the war". Rushden are the enemy Ralph2, they will never get any credit from me whatsoever. Sorry!
Ralph2 at 09:24:50 Saturday September 20 2003
They are still a league above us, Middlebill. I think they have to be given credit for that aswell as pulling off some good results so far. Our potential is obviously greater than theres but potential is something we as a club have never fulfilled, hopefully the Cardozas will help us change that. I stil can't get my head around R+D being rivals to us. Their club as a whole have come a very long way since Max came along and all in all I think they have a great wee club on strong foundations.
Middlebill at 08:54:26 Saturday September 20 2003
Northampton (11th). (12 points from 8 games.) Rubbish & Dustbins (10th) (13 points from 8 games) Sorry village idiot, I'm afraid our records are very similar at present. Only difference is, we are not performing to our true potential, you have already passed yours. If you can avoid relegation, we'll perhaps meet next