Dan Sherman on #ufo, 31st January 1998 Updated: 8/2/98
Raine
Hello everyone and welcome to the United Kingdom UFO Network #UFO channel meeting here on Ultranet.

We are very honoured to have with us here tonight as our special guest - Dan Sherman -

Dan many thanks for taking the time to visit with us tonight. We hope that you enjoy your stay, as much as I'm sure we will. Dan when you have finished answering a question could you please type DS so that we know you are ready for the next question.

Here is a short introduction to Dan Sherman:
Dan Sherman went into the United States Air Force like most other Americans, extremely proud to serve his country and it's well trained military. During his twelve years in service he was recognised for heroism and has been decorated with the AF Commendation Medal, as well as the AF Achievement Medal with two oakleaf clusters and was honoured for service in the Persion Gulf War. Everything appeared to be going well for Sergeant Sherman until he was recruited into a special programme called 'Project Preserve Destiny' (PPD), an ABOVE BLACK project which would eventually change his life and result in him leaving the USAF. OK Dan, would you like to add anything to that or would you like the first question?

Dan
That's a good synopsis, let us begin..

color
Welcome Mr.Sherman can you tell us about the type of genetic alterations the aliens did to you to create the type of conduit you became for the NSA? And if there are others in the public sector being biologically manipulated by them for those purposes and others?

Dan
I don't know exactly what procedure was performed.. all I was told was that I was a part of a genetic manipulation program designed to give humans the ability to communicate for a specific reason with this alien race. There are others that have the same ability.

Tinman-BF
When you meet your first alien contacts, How did you feel and was it expected ?

Dan
I have never "met" personally any alien. (Sounds funny even typing it!) I "intuitively communicated" with two separate aliens.

mulder
Do you know of cia involvement with ymca, using selected targets as manchurian candidates to carry out covert ops for cia/nsa?

Dan
I'm unaware of any CIA involvement with what you speak of. Sorry.

color
Do I recall that you mentioned a location in the Great Lakes area that was part of the information you recieved from the aliens? If so, can you tell me more about the area mentioned and the significance of that area? What is going on there?

Dan
I had received abduction data towards the end of my stay with the project. On three occasions I looked up the location of the abductions of which I was receiving information about. One of them was in Wisconsin somewhere. I didn't look at the specific area of Wisconsin.

Dave_UFO
Since leaving the USAF and PPD project have you met anyone else involved with the project?

Dan
No... neither do I expect to. Although, I guess it is possible someday. As people get out of the military under normal circumstances I'm sure there will be other intuitive communicators who come forward.

Tinman-BF
Do you, in you life time, think that the govenment will come out in the open to public about the presence of Aliens

Dan
I believe they will never do so voluntarily. But the more people who come forward who have knowledge, the more they will be forced out of the UFO closet.

color
While meeting abductees, have you come across meeting any that You had recieved information about them, while working for the NSA? from the aliens

Dan
I had never received personal data that would allow me to connect a certain person to the data I received.

Angela-
Mr Sherman does "k811" mean anything to you? If so , what do you associate it with?

Dan
If you replace the "8" with another symbol, yes.

mush
Dan: have you new information about the company of noise cancellation

Dan
Interesting question. A man named "Bob" that I have been communicating with has done a lot of research about that company since I released my book and has found out a lot of interesting information. I may be getting this onto the aboveblack.com website soon. Interesting stuff, all the correlations...

Gandalf1
dan: you said that you intiutivly communicated with aliens... did you do this by "telapathic communication" if yes isn't this quite impossible as you have to have a certain focus on the person you are trying to communicate with?

Dan
I am always careful to NOT call it telepathy mainly because I'm not sure what telepathy specifically feels like. I "intuitively communicated" and from what I have read about telepathy, this is a much more real and vivid way of communicating. This is explained in the book a bit more in depth.

mulder
were u involved in project stargate,have u ever dealt with sas or sis in uk?

Dan
No I have never worked with these projects. Very classified projects are always extremely compartmented and the chances of someone working on several different highly classified projects at once is very unlikely.

comet7
Dan, do you know what type of aliens these were and where they were from?

Dan
I'm unaware of the "type". and I never really was able to find out where they were from. I do know they manipulated time in order to travel. This would allow them to be from a great distance from earth.

Dave_UFO
Did you ever feel that there was an ulterior motive to your work in that you were perhaps being trained for something more than what you had been told?

Dan
Yes, most definitely .. especially towards the end. The cover story they told me about providing a means of worldwide communication in the futre because of an electromagnetic outage worldwide was most likely true (perhaps) but there was certainly more to it than that.

SickBoy
Hello Mr Sherman. Why do you expect people to believe your story? You have offered no evidence at all to substaniate your claims. Except you tell us about genetic alternations that modern medicine cannot do. That you are telepathic, but not with humans. You can make anything seem plausible to believers by introducing the alien factor. What do you feel is the most convincing thing about your story?

Dan
My background in the military can be verified. The bases I have been stationed at are "known" for there "interesting" missions. Other than that, it is based on faith. Just because someone does not have evidence of something does not automatically make it untrue.

color
what types of information did you recieve? And what information did you recieve regarding the abductions in Wisconsin? Or elsewhere?

Dan
I received "comms" for more than two years. The types of information varied throughout those years. They started with strings of numbers. But slowly evolved to images and towards the end it became what I readily identified as abduction data. It was not a great deal of data... things like time, date, lat/long (location) potentiality for recall, residual pain levels...etc. Nothing person specific though.

Dave_UFO
Dan I understand that your family may not know of your involvement in Project Preseve Destiny (PPD). Is this still the case? How do your friends & work colleague's react to you?

Dan
Something as different as my experience will automatically make people uncomfortable. This has been the case with a part of my family. There is a part of my family that does not know however because I learned a lesson when revealing it to the other poart of the family. If you want your relationships to be unfettered by mistrust, you simply don't bring it up. Coincidently, my firends are more readily accepting of this. My wife, however, has been rock soild throughout the whole ordeal as she knows me better than anyone else, and knows I wouldn't make this type of thing up.

Crow
Dan I know that you said you were taken to your comms room via a van with blacked out windows. Did you get taken directly into an NSA building or did the van park outside and you had to enter the building by walking

Dan
I was taken there via a blacked out van and a van without windows period. I was taken into a garage like structure. I never saw the outside of this structure. I went directly from the van to the door I entered to get to the elevator in the garage.

buck7
Dan, how can you be sure that you were not being manipulated mentally by your NSA employers into thinking that you were in contact with aliens? With all due respect.

Dan
This is a popular question. The short answer is, Ican't be sure. But the nature of the communications would lead anyone to believe that it was from extraterrestrial origin. Humans have the mental structure of cmmunications compared to what I experienced. It is very difficult ot explain the difference.

color
would you be able to locate the region(north, south)in Wisconsin if You saw a map ? What do you think is happening there?

Dan
Have a "certain" structure of communications compared to what I experienced. (Correction) I believe it was in the southern part of the state. All I did was look at the lat/long and notice it was in Wisconsin. I didn't look at the specific city. Sorry!

Crow
Dan obviously you still have the ability to do these comms now, have you contacted spock or bones since you left the project

Dan
No, I have had no comms since I was relieved of duty from the program. It was like I dropped off the face of the earth. This was obviously government controlled.

Dave_UFO
How did you cope during the time you were involved with PPD with not being able to tell anyone? It must have been most stressful.

Dan
In the beginning it was very difficult. But, if you think about it, at the time peopel were not as ready as they are today to hear such an experience and believe it. Even if I had told someone, I would have been thought of as crazy. (Still am today by many but it's not quite as bad today. Plus, I don't care anymore.

color
How did the agency know to pick you to put into that program? How did they find out your special genetical development in order to select you from the ordinary group of military person?

Dan
This whole thing was co-orchestrated by the government and them. They have obviously kept good records.

RavNmaD
Dan, due to the nature of your communications, how were you able to discern between a true communication and what you *wanted* to see or hear?

Dan
This is a question that cannot be answered without experiencing it for yourself. The communication was not from the imagination part of the brain. It happened very lucidly. Very difficult to put into words.

SickBoy
Can you tell us why you left the military?

Dan
The abduction data really started to get to me mentally. There were many things going on at the time and an event happened that kind of broke the camel's back so-to-speak. I requested a discharge and my commander came back with a retort that basically said I was never getting out... even when my enlistment was up. So I took the only measure I knew at the time that would most definitely get me out of the military. For legal reason, I really can't go into specifics.

Angela-
You say you were 'geneticly' altered in the womb. Were you ever abducted? By the Govt/Military that you can recall? Either as a child or an adult? It would seem that 'someone' would need to track your progress as you grew in efforts to monitor the genetic changes.

Dan
No. I have no recollections of any post womb abductions. I was told my ability didn't become fully developed until my mid 20's. Evidently there was no need to "monitor" my growth.

jarod
what if anything does he know about E2SCD

Dan
Sorry, nothing.

RavNmaD
Dan, what do you know about 'Fastlane'? is that term familiar with you?

Dan
I feel pretty dumb, should I know these terms? No, sorry, not that one either.

color
Will you ever try to make a connection from the information you recieved to the actual abduction that took place? Creating a link between what you recieved as data to the actual event? Proving the info.

Dan
Unfortunately, at the time I received this data I had no idea that I would be talking about this to anyone. I never made any notes or anything like that. The only information that could be usefl that I received was locational data and date. I'm not sure how this would have been too helpful anyway.

Dave_UFO
I'm interested in knowing how people reacted to you when you came clean. Your wife must be the closest person to you. How did she react and how does she feel now?

Dan
She's right here. She says she was "amazed and intrigued, and believed every word of it." Also, that I am a wonderful person and tall, dark and handsome. :) (Okay, those are my words.) Her family was not as accepting as we would have liked, but tolerant.

JeroenW
Dan, are you still in comm contact with intelligence?

Dan
What intelligence, Jeroen? Alien or military? Either case it is "no".

UnixKid
Are you willing to take an independant polygraph test? As well as a mental health evaluation?

Dan
I would be willing to take either as my experience is very much reality and the truth. I have a very firm grasp of reality. Sometimes too firm according to my wife.

RavNmaD
Dan, what was your MOS in the AF?

Dan
Before it changed (BTW it's AFSC in the AF) it was 20570. They changed in the 90's and it became 1N570 (I think...can't remember exactly.)

JeroenW
The same agency who implanted EBE. I think it was Psi. I'm in contact with no one in reagrds to my duties with the AF.

minator
Did anyone ever try to prevent you from writing your book or try to change the datails in it?

Dan
No. I wrote and released this book with very little fanfare. I purposely published it myself so as to start out with people like you who are the built in market and closer to the front lines of the alien worldwide story. Now that almost everyone in the "alien" community knows about it, it's very unlikely that the government is going to do anything about it since so many people "who care" and are monitoring, it would automatically justify what I am saying if anything were done to me. Now we are taking it to the next level... worldwide exposure. Stay tuned.

mulder
ever dealt with mi7 agents over the project in alaska? ever had involvement in chilean secret service?

Dan
You have to remember I didn't have access to any program but the one I worked on. I know the Alaska project may have ties to what I did, but I am unsure what they are specifically.

buck7
Dan, Do you have any info on the extent of government involvement in this affair? In other words, does the involvement extend beyond the U.S. government,( ie Great Britain,Russia,etc.)?

Dan
I firmly believe there are several governments involved in the project. This may have to do with the "worldwide" phenomanon that is supposedly going to occur in the future. Other government's involvement was alluded to by Bones..

comet7
Dan, do you think that you are now.. after leaving the military , being highly monitored or watched because of what you know?

Dan
Probably right after the release of the book. We had some mail come to us opened. Perhaps still now. I'm not concerned because I believe I haven't released any "black" information that would cause them to have a reason.

Rasputin
have you been tested by others with the same ability? Birds of a feather and all that...

Dan

The project was so compartmentailized that I never met (other than at school and we couldn't talk to one another) anyone else with the same abilities.

tinbox
Dan, has the military exerted (or tried to exert) any pressure on you regarding the content of your book?

Dan
None.

Crow
Dan I know you have mentioned a Captain and gave out his name Captain Black did you get any repercussions from giving out his name?

Dan
No. Actually, this name I gave out was not the Capt in question but another Capt that I worked with that I was thinking of at the time. What a mess that was.

UnixKid
Can you give us the name of the chief field officer in new orleans?

Dan
Unfortunately, I have no idea what you are referring to, Unixkid. Sorry.

Dave_UFO
Now that you are no longer involved with Project Preserve Destiny do you feel that should a time come when communication systems fail, that you will be used as the project intended?

Dan
That's a good question. I think it depends on how many they have trained and how needed I would be. My guess, probably not.

color
Is it breaking security to reveal the operations of the agencies you were involved in? Especially a project unofficailly acknowledged as aliens/ufos are. Did you recieve the go ahead from them to talk?

Dan
In the book I explain the different levels of the classified "onion". There are many levels, the black one is the one that I have to be careful about not revealing any info. Unfortunately, they were almost all involved with the black projects. It makes it hard to talk about agencies. Raine, I must draw this to a close.

Dave_UFO
Dan what of the future. You are working, there is your book and you are doing the lecture circuits. What else does the future hold for you?

Dan
As everyone may know I have written a book about the experience. More info about getting it can be seen at the website. I will be a featured speaker at the International UFO Congress Conference in Laughlin NV which will be held starting tomorrow and going until the 7th of Feb. There will be many more things happening, including a movie that may be produced. Stay tuned.

Raine
I would just like to thank Dan Sherman for coming here tonight and sharing some of his valuable time with us and wish him all the best for the future.

Crow
Thanks for sharing your time with us all Dan.

Dan
Thanks for your time and everyone else. I look forward to hearing your comments about the book. Just that I thank everyone for attending. Don't automatically dismiss unusual events ro experiences coming from ex-military people. They may be the part of the big story that is missing. Keep your eyes and ears open.

Crow
Don't forget all Dans website is: http://www.aboveblack.com

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