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Graham W. Birdsall uk.ufo.nw special guest on IRC
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| UK News Index |
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[UK 1] RAF Cosford security tightened | [UK 2] Cornwall plans for eclipse in 1999 [UK 3] 'Eclipse disaster' summit today [UK 4] Lights plague Cornwall's South West Peninsular [UK 5] UFO sighting over Bury, Lancashire [UK 6] Saucer landing spot will suit you to a tea [UK 7] Spies like US |
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[W 1] (Mexico) Mexican snow | [W 2] Jetliners encounter over New Jersey [W 3] Fireball in sky being called UFO - Chicago [W 4] NASA Looks Toward Visionary Interstellar Travel [W 5] Tail-less Fighter Flight Tests Complete [W 6] Hawaiian estate offered for Heaven's Gate suicide site [W 7] American Computer Company Makes A Remarkable Discovery! [W 8] Jack Shulman Exposes Hidden Ultra-Secret ET Military Organisation [W 9] Most Americans think there's life on other planets [W 10] NASA flouts Einstein, explores feasibility of interstellar journeys [W 11] Lunar Prospector blasts off |
| Letters Index |
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A request for information
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| Features Index |
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A Fearful Symmetry - Part 8
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On Saturday 10th January 1998 UK.UFO.NW were very honoured to have
on it's IRC (internet relay chat) #UFO channel Graham W. Birdsall
editor of the highly popular UK periodical 'UFO Magazine'. UFO
Magazine has 140,000 readers in over 36 countries. | The 70 visitors to the channel came from as far or as near as: Sweden : Iceland : UK : USA : Isle of Man (UK) : Northern Island : Germany : Netherlands We would like to thank Graham for his patience and perseverance during the week leading up the meeting. Not everything went to plan. Graham was good enough to drive to his office's at Quest Publications to connect. When you consider he did this at 11pm (UK time) at night, he put himself out for us. We were all most grateful. Our thanks also to Andrew Metcalf, UFO Magazine's web creator for sorting irc programs out at Graham's end. Further thanks go to Crow & Raine for making an excellent job of moderating the meeting and also to Paul_J for whom without the meeting would not have been possible on that night. Hackers took a hand in trying to shut down the irc servers used by our channel throughout the world. Paul_J worked his fingers to the bone getting everything back on line and keeping it that way. The log of the meeting is below. Readers are reminded that we have Dan Sherman author of Above Black Project Preserve Destiny as our special guest on Saturday 31st January. Further details will be posted shortly. Dave_UFO Hello everyone and welcome to the UK.UFO.NW -IRC- UFO channel. We are very honoured to have with us tonight our special guest Graham Birdsall. Graham is the editor of the highly popular publication 'UFO Magazine' with ***,000 readers in ** countries. We have had a few hiccups over the last week, preparing Graham to be with us tonight. I would certainly like to thank him for his patience and perseverance and also Andrew Metcalf who got the connection going at Graham's end. Graham has certainly put himself out for us tonight as he has actually had to go into his offices at Quest Publications to be with us. Graham we thank you for being here and hope that you enjoy this evening as I'm sure we will. Graham Thanks. Well, it's been a long day so I don't want to bore anyone, but I've been in this subject now for 31 years and the enthusiasm is still there to get at the answers. CoolNess First I'd like to say Hi and welcome to #ufo Mr Birdsall. What I would like to ask is this. With reference to the Alien Autopsy film you are on record as saying that you believe it to be fake. Now the evidence is fairly equal as to weather its fake or genuine so is it your instinct/gut feeling or something else that makes you believe it (the AA) to be fake? Graham Ever since Ray Santilli made his comments about seeing a certain President in the observation window, I've expressed my doubts. We still await independent analysis on one single frame of the footage, not the video tape, so what more can I say? Tinman-BF Do you believe UFOs are man made or originate from other planets were alien species may control them. Graham I'm convinced a small residue of UFOs are "not of this world" and the evidence suggests they are intelligently controlled. Whether these are piloted or remotely controlled is anyone's guess, but folks have been reporting a variety of occupants for the last 50 years, and they don't look like us. CoolNess Graham, have you ever heard "news" first from internet newsgroups such as Errol Bruce-Knapps excellent Global Updates, and have you ever been tempted to print some of the postings? Graham Yes, I have indeed heard a great deal of news first time of the Internet, and Errol's newsgroup is always interesting. Timothy Good met with Errol while at a lecture for a military get-together in Canada a few weeks ago and spoke highly of him. Crow Hi Graham thanks for joining us tonight, can you tell us if when you recently visited Brazil, you recieved any new information conserning the Varginha Case. Graham Considerable news came out of Brasilia, not least about the Varginha incident. I persuaded a British film crew to come to Brazil and they will be doing a one-hour special on this case. I'll keep my responses brief to give your questionners a fair crack. Dave_UFO 1: I was seriously of the opinion that as the year 2000 quickly approaches we were almost at the point of a Governmental release that UFOs and aliens do actually exist. That was until the USAF made that ridiculous statement in 1997 claiming that the bodies found at Roswell were crash dummies. What does your vast experience tell you. Are we any closer to learning the truth officially? Graham Any dummy can tell us dummy, said Walter Haut. The air force have invented time travel for dummies, said Stan Friedman. The Pentagon shot itself in the foot, and the journalists at that press conference were sufficiently well informed about Roswell to suggest as such. Brasilia had a senior Federal Government official open proceedings, and two senior Brazilian Air Force officials were there at the closing ceremony, on stage. Some governments are very Bigyin Was there any new UFO sigtings discussed at the conference? Graham Plenty, from dozens of international as well as Brazilian researchers. The best evidence came from the Chilean representatives (some of whom now sit on the Air Force Committee on UFOs). I saw some staggering video tape which had many jaws (including mine) drop to the floor. Amazing stuff and a "flying ring" that appeared in the sky, turned-turtle, and then dropped to speed off horizontaly just a few hundred feet above the ground. No wonder the Chilean AF established a committee on UFOs. HarryD Mr Graham (or is this your firstname?;) ..are you aware of the fact that many publicers today are being USED to spread desinfo.... for instance in the case of BillyMeier ,who I know personally, which is being defamed awfully....but who"s contacts are real as I have personally witnessed !! But it seems that Kall Korffs desinfo seems to be copied by al the publicers without rechearching the claims of Billy being fraudulant... Graham Billy Meier's material is suspect because models were found close to his Swiss home that were very similar to what appeared in his photos and footage, but Wendelle Stevens swears by the guy. Perhaps if Bruce Mac' got hold of the original negatives and footage, we could make a decision one way or the other. Tinman-BF Q: What do you feel about the subject of govenment secrecy Graham Government secrecy on this subject is well documented, or should I say, un-documented through the release of about 30,000 hitherto classified UFO papers. I don't believe in the worldwide conspiracy stuff however, can you honestly see the USA in a liaison with Iran, Iraq or Libya over this issue? Squeezer Mr Graham, have their been any recent developments on the Roswell, NM, July 1947 crash? Graham I met with Jesse Marcel Jnr in Brasilia and found him to be a very honest and somewhat humble, shy gentleman. Jesse's comments about his father, the material, the case in general, were highly sincere. He was told by a high-ranking official in Washington D.C. that Roswell happened, and was not science fiction. He repeated that publicly in Brasilia. CyDoNiA What are your thoughts and theories on the Mars and Moon abnormalities, Mainly the Face on Mars ? Graham I met with Dr. Mark Carlotto in Brasilia (had him speak for us at Solihull UK last February). Mark told me that he had a meeting with NASA's Global Surveyor team, they promised him and Proff. Stanley McDaniel that everytime the space probe passes over Cydonia, they will switch their high image cameras to maximum. That's an exclusive for you. KennethA The last I heard was that Santilli refuses to release the film to Kodak for analysis (the original film, that is). Doesn't this indicate to you that he's not being honest about his claims? Graham I can't possibly comment.... Aristotl Mr. Birdsall, in your years of investigating the UFO phenomenon, have you noticed anything which you would describe as peculiarly British, ie. is generally not seen outside the UK? Graham Fascinating question. Need some time to ponder on that, but my initial reaction is to say "No". What is reported by folks here in Britain is very similar to events, incidents reported across the globe. I have to say however that British Ufology is well thought of and much valued overseas. Bigyin what new UFO news came out of the conference in Brazil? Graham I'd be here until 6.00am answering that one. Outstanding presentations by so many people, but the Russian Cosmonaut, Alexandr Balandine told the packed venue that future anomalous images captured by their cosmonauts would be shared between the Russian Space Agency, NASA, and a Forum of UFO researchers. Alexandr spent six months on MIR. red Hi graham, Do u think we should be worried about the millennium. Graham Only if you're hoping to see in the New Year in Edinburgh, tickets will be hard to get... Dave_UFO Wendle Stevens made a big play of the Nashville, Tennessee UFO which you have featured. It now appears that these photograph's were nothing more than disco lights and dry ice in some sort of night club. Has Wendelle Stevens made any further comments on this? Graham No, he hasn't. But you are correct, the Nashville UFO pics do appear to have been a classic set of disco lights. People who are in the business of hoaxing take great delight in fooling the UFO community, so we have to be constantly on our guard. It's frustrating, and time wasting, but Wendelles in his eighties now and I feel for the guy. SickBoy Hello. What evidence do you base your magazine's assertion that unidentified lights in the sky, are likely to be of intelligent ET origin? Graham I don't, and never have made that assertion. Go back 20 years and you will find my term of UFOs as Unconventional Flying Objects was probably the first time such a terminology had been made. I used it to describe RPVs and UAVs. minator Graham, First of all Great mag. There have been a few interesting developments recently: alien embryo, UFO crash filmed, the mexican film. Do you think these are real or the work of hoaxers & why should so much be going on at once? Graham Primarily because the means to communicate such events have improved way beyond anything that was available to us in the late 60s and 70s. I met with Jaime Maussan in Brasilia, spent an hour interviewing him, watched his excellent presentation. I'm now convinced the 6 August '97 event in Mexico City did happen. Over 20 witnesses, but as for the authenticity of the video tape? Jaime told me, and I quote: "I don't know..." He did have his reasons however. GPZarquon Does Graham believe in any type of Time Travel ? Graham All things are possible, who is to say? Note the recent soundings by astronomers who found that a black hole was distorting, and I quote: "Time and space". Makes you think, doesn't it? Yelowrose Please ask Graham if he thinks we are at war with any beings "out there" right now? Thank you. Graham Good question. Are some UFOs or their actions hostile? One can cite numerous accounts where UFO incidents have resulted in fatalities, especially so with pilots. David Jacobs brings out a new book shortly entitled "The Threat" - I was with Budd Hopkins last night attending the big live debate on Central TV, Budd think's this book will scare the pants off a lot of people. Lister Graham, what are your general thoughts about the crop circle phenomenon? (Bearing in mind that some were obviously hoaxes while others were less easily explainable) Graham I can't tell you the number of times I'm asked this question, especially when I travel overseas. There is virtually no media publicity in the UK attached to crop circles, hasn't been for years. So what incentive does that afford the hoaxers? Why spend hours each night carving out these incredible images, when there is no publicity? Hope you get my drift. Tinman-BF When and how did your interest in UFOlogy start and have you ever sighted one ? Graham Thirteen years old, back in Leeds in 1967. Saw a huge oval-shaped object, half-sixe of the full Moon travel silently above my parents home. Watched it go over the house then ran through the living room into the back garden (all of 2-3 seconds). Went out, stared up and it was nowehere to be seen. I've seen several UFOs since, none of which fell into a bracket which I could relate to in conventional terms. Dan Graham, after the celebrations in July, many ufologists have decided to take a new approach and are looking to a new ufology where they search for more terrestrial answers to the ufo phenomenon. It seems many ufologists are giving up on the extra-terrestrial hypothesis. What is your view on this? Graham I've no problem with that. I researched RPVs and UAVs years ago. The more informed a person becomes about new aviation and space technologies, the better understanding one has when it comes to chipping away for answers. SickBoy Do you think that Nick Pope was the best the MOD could do when it came to investigating UFOs? Or was he just there for the public, with the real work happening behind closed doors? Graham Nick's an interesting guy. Did he see all the UFO reports that crossed his desk, or just a select few? I'm convinced (and suspect he now shares this view), that many reports were kept hidden from view. He might have come across to the UFO community as the genuine article had he chosen to resign from office before releasing his book, but who is to say. jarod ask him if the brazil conf was video'd and if so whens it available etc Graham Yes, Brasilia was video taped, and I'm sure A.J. Gevaerd will be releasing details of how to acquire specific tapes in the near future. I'm hoping to not only obtain some of the Chilean footage, but persuade British TV to air it. I'm staggered that none of this has been broadcast on news channels around the world. Carnado M.Heseman states in his german ufo-mag that chile wants to set up a satelite (called BETA) to orbit for monitoring ufo's, any coment on that? Graham I have yet to see that claim verified, but it wouldn't surprise me. Chile and a number of nations are concerned about the penetration of their air space by unknown objects. Remember, its the Chilean pilots and radar confirmation of these that went some way to establishing the investigative committee. Gandalf1 how do you feel about the abduction phenomena, have you come across any evidence that makes you think it is either REALLY happening or not AT ALL Graham That's what we discussed on Central TV last night (Friday). Abduction experiences occur throughout the world, that much we know. I know of a couple in Equador, two native Indians, no TV no electrical power, neither can read. Yet they report the same experience as other abductees. Their home is four wooden poles and a sack-cloth for a roof. Bigyin any news on any new European UFO sightings? Graham Shouldn't be telling you this, but the recent "fireball" event over Greenland was no fireball or cosmic debris. A lot of information has surfaced about three UFO landings, one on a small island between Greenland and Canada. Hope to have more in the next mag. Carnado Did the brasilian conferene bring forward any new info on the Mexico 6.Aug event/film? Graham Yes. Please refer to my earlier answer. Also, two witnesses were injured by the passing UFO. One suffered water on the brain and the other, a woman, was badly scorched on her arms. MJ-12 ok: what advise would you give to someone looking for a job in the ufology field? Graham Keep working to improve your knowledge about the subject. Attain journalistic credentials, PC/MAC useage etc. We employ eight people, it's hard work but rewarding. I guess I have spent 25 years doing this voluntarily, so have at least acquired the knowledge, but just go out and keep informed. hackit graham as a person who has been lucky enough to have been privy to seeing thing most of us would like to have seen for ourselfs do you personally believe that ufos actually are from other universes/dimemsions Graham I can honestly state for the record that in my opinion, some UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial, but from whence they cometh, who knows. I concur with Stan Friedman, let's stop being "apologist Ufologists". Remember, we are in a majority right now of those who believe UFOs are real. The sceptics will always be around, but they apply one Golden Rule: "Don't bother me with the facts, my mind's made up." You should bother to read up on the facts. SickBoy What is your opinion on the hypothesis that many UFOs are mirages, due to a temperature inversion, of astronomical objects below the obsever's horizon? Steuart Cambell has written an interesting book on this subject, have you read it? Graham Yes, Steuart and I go back many years and enjoy numerous radio debates on the topic. Over 400 radar tapes have been acquired of UFO incidents. I've spoken with many RAF radar operators who have tracked these things. They spoke of solid objects performing way beyond anything they had hitherto seen. Remember the Belgian radar tape from March 1990? The UFO descended from 10,000ft to less than 500ft in less than 5 seconds. We interviewed one of the Belgian AF pilots here in the Uk who chased that UFO during March 1990. Everything he told us is on tape (been played at our conferences and transcripted in UFO Magazine). It was no temperature inversion. Dave_UFO UFO Magazine must be one of the longest running magazine's of it's type. Just how long has it been going and how long have you been involved with it? Graham It originated from a newsletter format that was produced in the late '70s. UFO Magazine has been around since 1981, but became a newsstand publication in the summer of 1994, after which others have jumped on the badwagon, but that was no surprise. At least you can still telephone us between 9.00am and 6.00pm during the week if you want to have a chat. lloydy Graham, do you think we are getting close to some sort of anouncment on ET life, eg, ancient Mars life or primitive Europan etc? Graham Personally, I do believe that recent soundings by Dan Goldin at NASA, the potential for ancient evidence of life on Mars etc, is no coincidence. NASAs "Origins" programme, initiated in December '96 by Vice President Al Gore, has to be seen in this context. MJ-12 what are your thoughts of the latest rumours that area 51 being abandoned? Graham A timely question. I'm travelling to Nevada on 2 February and will be spending some time in and around Area 51, so should have a better idea of the current situation. In our next issue of UFO Magazine, we have an exclusive feature on what some believe is the new Area 51, found by a guy who took photographs (which we will publish) before black helicopters chased him away. CyDoNiA Has there been any further Human mutilations in Brazil. And do you know what the result of the investigations into the subject by Brazilian authorities? Graham I'm not aware of any substantive new evidence suggesting there have been any new human mutilations in Brazil, but this is a highly sensitive issue, probably one of THE most sensitive in Ufology. We are familiar with other cases, but that's all I can say on the matter. CoolNess Graham, with reference to my first question about the AA, it is fairly well known that the sheriff of Roswell ( I'm afraid I've forgot his name) looked fairly similar to the then president Truman, and the sheriff would have a fairly valid reason to be overseeing the autopsy, could it not be him? Graham The question is valid, but I have to come back to my initial comment: We have yet to see a solitary 16mm frame of the original autopsy footage put in the hands of an independent analyst. The red stop light should have been switched on at the outset, but for reasons best known to those most closely involved with the 'footage', it was not done so. AlienCity Graham, Have you ever felt you were being directly manipulated by any 'outside forces' to put over any specific views or opinions on ufo stories/info in your magazine? -AstroJoe- Please ask Graham if '95 & '96 have been exceptional years for UFO sightings, including reports of crashes (compared to say 15 years before that). Graham 1996 produced the largest number of UFO reports in the UK seen in 25 years. Alleged UFO crashes have also risen in frequency, but Varginha is certainly one that I would recommend folks read about. DJFunk Mr. Birdsall, What are your thoughts on many peoples theory that the Human race was created by the aliens controling the ufos that we see today and that their reason of being here is to Cheak up on their "creations" Graham I'm a great fan of Graham Hancock & Robert Bauval. Read their material and you will discover why. We have evidence of dinosaurs dating back millions of years, but the history of mankind is drop in the bucket. Where are our origins? After 30+ years in this subject, I do take the view, held by many, that we should look in this direction for definitive answers. Aristotl Mr. Birdsall, how would you describe the relationship between some of the larger UFO groups in the UK today? Is there much cooperation, or is the British UFOlogical community greatly fragmented and hostile to each other? Graham Over 70 Brazilian UFO organisations came together to produce the 1st World UFO Forum. Their unity resulted in the greatest gatherings of UFO researchers, at the largest UFO conference in history, being the success that it was. British Ufology has come on leaps and bounds, but fragmentation still exists. Liaison and co-operation is the name of the game if we are to make progress. Benat2 Do you think UFology should be alot more Scientific[ie. more physics and of such involved]? Graham Obviously yes. There are scientists who help us, some go public, as was the case with Professor Lorimer at Manchester University, who analysed material from Israel. But we need more like him if we are to persuade the greater scientific community to come on board. SickBoy What do you think of American Computer Company's new Roswell claims? They are a different company from the original American Computer Corporation or ACC, do you think it is a hoax web? Stan Friedman thinks Corso is involved. Graham I don't know what to make of these claims. Hope to discover more when I'm in the States for two weeks in February. volospion What are Grahams views on the recent Shuttle footage showing an apparent missile launch against a UFO ? Graham The STS-48 shuttle footage is extremely important. Dr. Jack Kasher's analysis is equally so. The Russian cosmonaut told me over breakfast in Brasilia that they and the United States maintain SDI technology, so make of that what you will. grey Please, give us your view on the possible connection between the Sphinx and ancient visitors from space. Graham A new book by Hancock & Bauval on this topic will be coming out soon (don't know the title yet), but Robert Bauval told me it will make Raiders of the Lost Ark look pale in comparison. Can't wait myself to see what he means by that. -UFOjoe- Do you think there is anything to predicting UFO occurrences such as is done by T. Roy Dutton? Graham I'm not too sure. I travelled to Iceland some years ago after people all over the world "received messages" that a landing would take place near a well-known volcano. We sat and waited and nothing happened. A can of coke cost £5 so it was one hell of an expensive prediction. DOGGI3 Sir, do Jesse Marcel Jr. talks about the whereabout of the alleged bits and pieces of roswell incident now? Graham He didn't comment about that, possibly because he was never asked. Jesse is one of the most sincere individuals I have ever met, so please do take that on board the next time you hear criticism of the guy. SickBoy What is your (and UFO magazine's) position on the use of hypnotic regrssion on people who suspect they have been abducted? Graham Provided it is undertaken by qualified individuals (and that's a grey area in itself), I don't have a problem with the use of hypnotic regression, accepting at the same time it is clinically unproven in terms of its effectiveness. However, last night Budd Hopkins told the Central TV audience that 30% of his cases didn't involve the use of hypnotism. Dave_UFO Graham it may be hard for your to believe but we have been after you for a long time so-to-speak to come on the channel as a guest. I'm sure I speak for us all when I extend my greatful thanks to you. I hope that perhaps much later in the year we can invite you back. It has been most interesting. I for one will hopefully say hello at the Solihull conference in February. Graham Dave, it's been a pleasure. Can I extend my thanks to you and your colleagues for making this interview possible, and my most cordial best wishes to your guests. Hope to see you at Solihull, until then, all the best and goodnight from Otley. |
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[UK 1]****** | From: kevan.farmer@virgin.net Organisation: Staffordshire UFO Investigation Group Date: 14th November 1997 RAF Cosford I have been informed from a fairly reliable source that RAF Cosford - which is supposedly being quietly run down - has suddenly had it's security uprated by a phenomenal amount. This coincides with an increased number of strange sightings including the ubiquitous black triangles. My informant, who has an RAF jet pilot as an acquaintance, tells me that this pilot has suddenly clamed up on the subject of strange sightings. Previously he was always ready to discuss the phenomena. The pilot is based at RAF Cosford. An interesting snippet of information is that apparently RAF pilots are not subject to the same 'gagging' when they have been based abroad. This particular pilot has in the past been based in Saudia Arabia and was always willing to talk about UFO's he and his colleagues had seen over there. [UK 2]****** Source: BBC Ceefax Date: Thursday 11th December 1997 Cornwall (UK) plans for eclipse in 1999 Experts are gathering to talk about preventing "eclipse chaos" when most of Cornwall is plunged into darkness in less than two years time. Some 500,000 people are expected to flock to Cornwall to observe the eclipse in August 1999. The County's emergency planning officer Steve Winston said the aim of the meeting was to "plan out any hiccups". The last total visible eclipse on the UK mainland was in 1927. [UK 3]****** From: Crow & Raine Source: West Briton newspaper Publish Date: 11th December 1997 'Eclipse disaster' summit today AN ECLIPSE summit meeting being held in Truro today (Thursday) follows claims in a national newspaper that the event could be a disaster for Cornwall An article in The Daily Telegraph This week claimed that as the county plunges into darkness, tourists can expect '30-mile traffic jams, no hotel beds, over-priced fast food and mountains of rubbish." Steve Winston, Cornwall's Emergency Planning Officer, is the man tasked with preventing a catastrophe and the co-ordinator of today's conference. By Richard Shimell Scientists, emergency services, environmental health officers, health workers, planners and tourist chiefs are all expected to attend the meeting at County Hall in an attempt to make sure Cornwall can cope. "Our job is to think about the worst possible scenario," said Mr Winston. Traffic jams are inevitable as hundreds of thousands of sightseers pour into the county, he admitted. "There is precious little we can do about that but we need to ensure that ambulances and other emergency vehicles can travel and that people are aware they will be stuck in their cars for long periods of time." Despite his caution, Mr Winston is still able to appreciate the "poetry" of the event. "Imagine standing on a west facing cliff or on the deck of a ship and seeing a wall of shadow travelling towards you at 2,000km an hour," he said. "When the shadow crosses, the area will immediately be plunged into darkness, the birds will stop singing and yet, if you're standing on a high point, it'll be like being under a huge umbrella of' darkness, as 75km away there will still be light." The sun in Cornwall will be totally covered for about two minutes on August 11 at just past 11am, but it will be two and a half hours from the first shadow to the return of full daylight. European funding is being sought to employ a project manager and use the event as a means of promoting tourism in Cornwall. [UK 4]****** uk.ufo.nw says: Our thanks to Dave Dunworth for the below information. Dave will be keeping us up to date with reports Source: Dave Dunworth Director of The Greenhouse From: Dave Dunworth thegreenhouse@netmatters.co.uk Sightings of strange lights continue to plague Cornwall's South West Peninsular By Dave Dunworth On Friday 17th October at 08:30am a bright,tear shaped, unidentified flying object was spotted by a father and daughter collecting their morning milk. They spotted what at first glance appeared to be a conventional aircraft at an unusual angle, the strange light caught their attention as it traveled from East to West, the father decided to get his binoculars to take a better look. The bright light appeared to be tear shaped and was definitely not an aircraft he saw what appeared to be Black Lines running through the object, these Black Lines seemed to be rotating. The object traveled in a Westerly direction from the Irish Sea to the English Channel over the ancient monuments and along the path of a mystical Lay Line towards Mounts Bay and St. Michael's Mount. The same object was also seen by a woman from 2 miles away at Penzance who watched it travel over the Bay towards St. Michael's Mount and disappear from view. The local RAF Base, RNAS Culdrose, was contacted to see if they had anything unusual on radar this proved negative so the sighting remains another mystery as have other frequent sightings in this area. This type of sighting is fast becoming common place in the skies of West Cornwall, they appear frequently over ancient monuments and also follow the paths of Lay Lines. It is interesting to note that theses activities are within a 20 mile radius of RNAS Culdrose the biggest Helicopter base in Europe. ### This is the second UFO sighting I have received in the past few weeks from this area, The Town crier Mr. Philip Glett witnessed an object on 13th September this year at 03:15am he was completely amazed by his sighting, he said, " I am not prone to believing in this sort of thing,but now Ive seen one I have to reevaluate my thinking, I have seen a UFO and now I believe these things are Real". Mr P Glett Report Follows:- The Greenhouse sightings report Date/Time: Saturday 13th September 1997 Duration of Sighting: 20Mins 03:15 - 03:35 Location: SW Mounts Bay Penzance Cornwall Investigator: Mr D A Dunworth (The Greenhouse DIRECTOR) Witness: Mr Phillip Gillet Occupation: Town Crier (Penzance Cornwall) By Dave Dunworth In his own words Mr Phillip Gillet Explains......... In the early hours of Saturday morning I awoke and looked through the window towards the sky in a SE direction. What I saw was to make me get out of bed and take a closer look, upon investigation I saw what appeared to be a large oval rugby ball shaped light in the night sky, The light did not appear to be traveling in any direction but I did notice that the object was shimmering almost like a jelly. The light appeared to be a bright yellow/orange and had a kind of transparency to it. I watched this light for a good 20 minutes, what I was seeing in my experience was not a conventional air craft or balloon, the position of my window looks towards the Lloyds Bank clock tower(Easterly), this gave me a good viewing point. The visibility was good and I could make out the plough and I think its Jupiter the bright star we can see at the moment. After observing the object for 20 min watching it all the time shimmering and clearly visible I began to realize that what I was infact seeing was a UFO, I felt excited at this prospect and was pleased that after all this time I had actually seen one. The light continued to glow its unmistakable golden colour and then it suddenly vanished without a trace it did not shoot off in any particular direction it just vanished as if someone had switched the object off like a light. Copyright (c)1997 The Greenhouse [UK 5]****** From: AStarkie1@aol.com UFO sighting over Bury, Lancashire I thought I'd drop you guys an E-Mail after a very interesting and unusual event that took place earlier this evening. Approx 7.00 pm, Saturday Nov 8th. Skies were clear with some light passing cloud. I was called out by my ten year old son and his two friends to see something in the sky. At first I could see nothing but stars, and expected them to be looking at a passing plane. After a few minutes however, I could see what had excited them:- Directly overhead appeared to be several objects moving about at random. Nothing spectacular - they looked rather like 'moving' stars, about the same brightness and size etc. They seemed to be very distant. The kids were pointing out loads, but the first one I saw was clearly moving between two 'fixed' stars. A satellite you may suggest, maybe, but it was moving in a very strange manner, sort of speeding-up and then slowing down to an almost standstill whilst moving in an arc. I traced this for a short time before it vanished. The second object was clearly moving between two stars for a short distance before disappearing. During this time, the kids were pointing out others, and even a neighbour joined in and saw more. The phenomenon lasted several minutes before all objects dissappeared. I have often looked in the skies, but never have I seen anything like this. I can honestly say they were not aircraft, fireworks or meteorites. They made no sound and if they were at the distance they seemed, speeds must have been tremendous. Alan Starkie [UK 6]****** Source: The Express newspaper Date: Saturday 3 January 1998 Weekend: Travel: UK Breaks Flying visit to Suffolk Saucer landing spot will suit you to a tea, says Jeffrey Taylor If you go down to the woods today, your in for a big surprise - at least you were 17 years ago in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk. As I approached my destination on the southern edge of the plantation, I noticed the birds had stopped singing and I could have sworn the temperature had dropped. When I stood on the rim of the site where Britain's most famous flying saucer crash-landed I must admit to a slight sense of shock. The extensively recorded incident when US Air Force personnel experienced a close encounter with distressed aliens happened in 1980. The area shaped like a giant, er, saucer is still blackened and desolate. Words such as corn circles crossed my mind, but could such sour infertility be artificially maintained for a decade or more? Even the normally abundant bracken managed only a few wispy tendrills. I left. But the Sandlings, the low lying coast to the east of the A12 between Lowestoft and Felixstowe, is a spooky place. Take Dunwich, where today just a strip of shingle separates grazing cows from a boisterous sea. In medieval days, before this bit of the county gave up its struggle to stay afloat and sank, it was Eastern England's busiest port. When the tide comes in at sunset, the ghostly bell of the drowned parish church sounds a doleful knell across the fields. Local fisherman "Dodger" Holmes knows it does because he's rung it a few times himself. "Just to keep the visitors happy," the says. But if its picture postcard you are seeking, the hamlet of Westleton, just 95 miles and a couple of galaxies from London, has the lot. A village green with duck pond is ringed with charmming cottages, the Lion Inn and The Crown dispense Dickensian ambience and the church is thatched. Via the parish notice board visitors are cosily invited to join the village Quilting and Bowling Clubs and press flowers with the Women's Institute. You could die from the excitement. Drive south along the Broads to Aldeburgh, a sea side resort with class even before Benjamin Britten founded his international music festival. Across the River Alde estuary you can just make out the silhouette of 11th century Orford Castle still standing on rising ground outside the town. In the castle's shadow is Market Hill, Orfords central square, is the Butley Orford Oysterage Restaurant and shop, known universally as Pinney's, the name of the family who owned and run it. Pinney's bivalves are fished every day at 9 am from their local beds laid down by the Romans and if not eagerly consumed, go back to bed at closing time. Is that fresh, or what? Head north of Westleton past the Minsmere Bird Sanctuary, one of the largest in Europe, to the fishing village of Walberswick where the annual Crab Championship in August is said to be a riot. Then a couple of miles further north is Southwold. Small and genteel, Southwold is, oddly, the home of Adnams Brewery and boasts a pier which is considered vulgar by the townsfolk. Equally the rows of quaintly painted beach huts are unpopular with visitors, particularly when they learn most are not for hire. The good thing about Suffolk is you can find it with your eyes closed. Once you drive under the M 25, the A12 rolls you effortlessly along and within 90 minutes of leaving London, you are seriously rural. Though strenuous activities are available, such as church trails and brass rubbing, the Sandlings is about instant relaxation. And it works. [UK 7]****** Source: Daily Telegraph newspaper Publish Date: Tuesday 16th December 1997 From: jon@loserville.co.uk Spies like US A European Commission report warns that the United States has developed an extensive network spying on European citizens and we should all be worried. Simon Davies reports A GLOBAL electronic spy network that can eavesdrop on every telephone, email and telex communication around the world will be officially acknowledged for the first time in a European Commission report to be delivered this week. The report - Assessing the Technologies of Political Control - was commissioned last year by the Civil Liberties Committee of the European Parliament. It contains details of a network of American-controlled intelligence stations on British soil and around the world, that "routinely and indiscriminately" monitor countless phone, fax and email messages. It states: "Within Europe all email telephone and fax communications are routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency transfering all target information from the European mainland via the strategic hub of London then by satellite to Fort Meade in Maryland via the crucial hub at Menwith Hill in the North York moors in the UK." The report confirms for the first time the existence of the secretive ECHELON system. Until now, evidence of such astounding technology has been patchy and anecdotal. But the report - to be discussed on Thursday by the committee of the office of Science and Technology Assessment in Luxembourg - confirms that the citizens of Britain and other European states are subject to an intensity of surveillance far in excess of that imagined by most parliaments. Its findings are certain to excite the concern of MEPs. "The ECHELON system forms part of the UKUSA system (see 'Cooking up a charter for snooping') but unlike many of the electronic spy systems developed during the Cold War, ECHELON is designed primarily for non-military targets: governments, organizations and businesses in virtually every country. "The ECHELON system works by indiscriminately intercepting very large quantities of communications and then siphoning out what is valuable using artificial intelligence aids like MEMEX to find key words". According to the report, ECHELON uses a number of national dictionaries containing key words of interest to each country. For more than a decade, former agents of US, British, Canadian and New Zealand national security agencies have claimed that the monitoring of electronic communications has become endemic throughout the world. Rumours have circulated that new technologies have been developed which have the capability to search most of the world's telex, fax and email networks for "key words". Phone calls, they claim, can be automatically analysed for key words. Former signals intelligence operatives have claimed that spy bases controlled by America have the ability to search nearly all data communications for key words. They claim that ECHELON automatically analyses most email messaging for "precursor" data which assists intelligence agencies to determine targets. According to former Canadian Security Establishment agent Mike Frost, a voice recognition system called Oratory has been used for some years to intercept diplomatic calls. The driving force behind the report is Glyn Ford, Labour MEP for Greater Manchester East. He believes that the report is crucial to the future of civil liberties in Europe. "In the civil liberties committee we spend a great deal of time debating issues such as free movement, immigration and drugs. Technology always sits at the centre of these discussions. There are times in history when technology helps democratise, and times when it helps centralise. This is a time of centralisation. The justice and home affairs pillar of Europe has become more powerful without a corresponding strengthening of civil liberties." The report recommends a variety of measures for dealing with the increasing power of the technologies of surveillance being used at Menwith Hill and other centres. It bluntly advises: "The European Parliament should reject proposals from the United States for making private messages via the global communications network (Internet) accessible to US intelligence agencies." The report also urges a fundamental review of the involvement of the American NSA (National Security Agency) in Europe, suggesting that their activities be either scaled down, or become more open and accountable. Such concerns have been privately expressed by governments and MEPs since the Cold War, but surveillance has continued to expand. US intelligence activity in Britain has enjoyed a steady growth throughout the past two decades. The principal motivation for this rush of development is the US interest in commercial espionage. In the Fifties, during the development of the "special relationship" between America and Britain, one US institution was singled out for special attention. The NSA, the world's biggest and most powerful signals intelligence organisation, received approval to set up a network of spy stations throughout Britain. Their role was to provide military, diplomatic and economic intelligence by intercepting communications from throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The NSA is one of the shadowiest of the US intelligence agencies. Until a few years ago, it existence was a secret and its charter and any mention of its duties are still classified. However, it does have a Web site (www.nsa.gov:8080) in which it describes itself as being responsible for the signals intelligence and communications security activities of the US government. One of its bases, Menwith Hill, was to become the biggest spy station in the world. Its ears - known as radomes - are capable of listening in to vast chunks of the communications spectrum throughout Europe and the old Soviet Union. In its first decade the base sucked data from cables and microwave links running through a nearby Post Office tower, but the communications revolutions of the Seventies and Eighties gave the base a capability that even its architects could scarcely have been able to imagine. With the creation of Intelsat and digital telecommunications, Menwith and other stations developed the capability to eavesdrop on an extensive scale on fax, telex and voice messages. Then, with the development of the Internet, electronic mail and electronic commerce, the listening posts were able to increase their monitoring capability to eavesdrop on an unprecedented spectrum of personal and business communications. This activity has been all but ignored by the UK Parliament. When Labour MPs raised questions about the activities of the NSA, the Government invoked secrecy rules. It has been the same for 40 years. Glyn Ford hopes that his report may be the first step in a long road to more openness. "Some democratically elected body should surely have a right to know at some level. At the moment that's nowhere". |
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[W 1]****** | Source: Teletext World News Date: Saturday 13th December 1997 Mexican snow Mexico: Snow has fallen in some parts of the normally arid northern states for the first time in over 30 years. [W 2]****** Source: UFO Roundup - http://www.digiserve.com/ufoinfo/ From: "David Watanabe" davew@exosci.com Date: 17th November 1997 Jetliners encounter over New Jersey On Monday night, November 17, 1997, ham radio operator John N. Gonzalez, N2IXW, picked up a UFO report while listening to radio traffic on the air. According to a MUFON report, Gonzalez heard the conversation between the tower at Newark, N.J. airport and Flight 262 on 118.300 MHz. Two other unidentified air crews also joined in the conversation. Here is a transcript: JET #2: "Watch out! The two (UFOs) are coming up to you." FLIGHT 262: "Well, Captain, the two up here are coming down to meet with you." TOWER: "Flight 262, what is your status?" FLIGHT 262: "We have 236 souls onboard and fifty thousand (pounds) of fuel. I think these damn things are going to hit us. We are over Morristown just in case there is a collision with them. (pause) They have taken off towards the northeast. And, by the way, towards the northeast, it also looks like a meteor or space debris is coming down." (Editor's Note: Monday night, November 17, was the tail end of the annual Leonid meteor shower.) TOWER: "Do you wish to report a UFO sighting?" FLIGHT 262: (Pause) No, we have nothing to report." JET #2: "We heard you. I am making sure the passengers are all right. And, no, I have nothing to report, either." JET#3: "You guys have seen more than your share of UFOs. I know I have." TOWER: "Who are you? Please identify yourself." (There was no response) "Flight 262, go to the emergency frequency. We will meet with the both of you there." [W 3]****** Source: United Press International From: bernhard.nahrgang@ob.kamp.net (Bernhard Nahrgang) Date: Wednesday 3rd December 1997 Fireball in sky being called UFO UFO investigators from around the country are trying to determine what was a mysterious fireball that streaked across the sky over Chicago's southern suburbs. The phenomenon was reported Sunday evening. Pilot Tim Janecyk says he doesn't know what he saw as he drove near Interstate 80. He described it as a "brilliant fireball" that descended "from the clouds straight down." He said it was about the size of a full moon and lit up the clouds. Janecyk said the object was trailing smoke but was moving too slowly to be a meteor. Similar citings were reported near Kansas City, Mo. [W 4]****** Source: Nasa Press Release Date: Tuesday 2nd December 1997 NASA Looks Toward Visionary Interstellar Travel Many people wonder when we will be able to travel to distant solar systems as easily as envisioned in science fiction. Discover NASA's perspective on the prospects that exist today for achieving such far-future visions via a new World Wide Web site called, "Warp Drive, When?" Explore the site at: http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/warp.htm This web site explains the challenges of interstellar travel, the prospects and limitations of existing propulsion ideas, and the prospects emerging from science that may one day provide the breakthroughs needed to enable practical interstellar voyages. Analogies to familiar science fiction are used to simplify concepts such as "warp drive." For a look at what NASA is doing to achieve such breakthroughs, another web site is available about the new NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics program: http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/ This modest program is taking a step-by-step approach toward discovering the ultimate breakthroughs needed to revolutionize space travel and enable human journeys to other star systems - credible progress toward incredible possibilities. This program represents the combined efforts of individuals from various NASA centers, other government labs, universities and industry. [W 5]****** Source: Nasa Press Release Date: Wednesday 26th November 1997 Tailless Fighter Flight Tests Complete (edited for length) The NASA/Boeing X-36 Tailless Fighter Agility Research Aircraft successfully completed its flight research program -- demonstrating the feasibility of future tailless fighters achieving agility levels superior to today's best military fighter aircraft. The project goals are to develop and demonstrate enhanced technologies to improve the maneuverability and survivability of future fighter aircraft. "All of our project goals were met or exceeded," said Mark Sumich, X-36 project manager at NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA. The 28-percent-scale X-36, built by the Boeing Phantom Works in St. Louis, MO, is designed to fly without the traditional tail surfaces common on most aircraft. The X-36 is 18 feet long with a 10 foot wingspan; three feet high; and weighs 1,270 pounds. The aircraft is powered by a Williams Research F112 turbofan engine that provides 700 pounds of thrust. The aircraft is remotely controlled by a pilot in a ground station cockpit, complete with a head-up display. The pilot-in-the-loop approach eliminates the need for expensive and complex autonomous flight control systems. [W 6]****** Source: CNN Date: 2nd December 1997 Hawaiian estate offered for Heaven's Gate suicide site A prospective buyer offered to swap a Hawaiian estate for the mansion where 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide last spring. The offer for an "even swap" of an Oahu estate for the 9,000-square-foot, seven- bedroom house where the UFO cultists killed themselves, is one of at least three under consideration this week, real estate agent Burt Sveine said. The cult house, owned by Sam Koutchesfahani and rented to the followers of guru Marshall Applewhite, has been valued at $1.6 million. The mansion was refurbished after cult members, believing a spaceship following the Hale-Bopp comet would deliver them to a better world, poisoned themselves last March in their bunks. Sealed bids were accepted last month. Besides the Oahu home, there are offers from a Texan who specializes in problem properties and from a local buyer. Prospective buyers requested anonymity. Sveine said he and Koutchesfahani will discuss the offers this week. Koutchesfahani may decide to keep the Mediterranean-style mansion if the bids aren't acceptable. [W 7]****** Source: Sightings On The Radio URL: http://www.sightings.com/ American Computer Company Makes A Remarkable Discovery! by Joyce Kelly First submitted to UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL 19th December 1997 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE. What started out as a short, interesting news item on the American Computer Company INTERNET Web Site, has turned into a remarkable story, one that is a major headache this morning for certain US Department of Defense Top Brass... In July 1997, American Computer Company posted a slightly humorous, interesting story about allegations that in 1947, the Army Air Force may have transferred a captured Alien Space Craft to Bell Labs for commercialization, resulting in the Transistor and other major engineering discoveries. Now, after six months, after receipt of tens of thousands of pages of documents, and after pursuing thousands upon thousands of leads, ACC has found it has a bigger problem: The Army has apparently admitted that the documents describing a downed UFO in Roswell, NM in 1947, were deliberately misdirected during the subsequent months, along with "crash materials", as the Army spun off the US Air Force (which was formed in November of 1947). As a result, lost in the cracks of a postwar Military Bureaucracy, a secret initiative to evaluate Alien Technology for military and commercial advances sprung forth from the same spring as had been evaluating German V-2 Rockets captured by the Army, and personnel assigned to the Manhattan Project (which had created the Atom Bomb during World War II). A meeting between ACC and the US Army Legislative Liaison has ACC personnel scratching their heads in amazement: "Its a revelation. The Army has admitted that 'certain documents and things' relating to the Roswell and Corona crash and landing of what was probably TWO Alien Space Craft manned by a 'neutral' group of observers trying to determine the threat potential of the evaluation by the Army of the mating of the Atom Bomb and the Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, may actually HAVE been covered up, hushed up, and remains, to this date, a fully funded project spinning off decade after decade of engineering projects aimed at developing a defensive capability not just geared towards human warfare, but towards the defense of our Planet from 'invaders from another world'." "It appears to all onlookers, that the Army is taking the possibility of a need to be able to militarily defend the US from alien marauders quite seriously, and has assessed the time it might take for a large 'invasion fleet' to reach earth. As a result, a very long term, super secret project aimed at equipping the Earth to defend itself against invasions from other worlds, has been underway, while the Army and Air Force have spoken 'laughingly' about 'Martians' and 'Little Green Men'." "A super secret initiative exists to notify the Commander-in-Chief in the event of Alien Onslaught. The justification for the enormously profitable commercialization projects, which have been quietly interspersed with more human advanced research efforts, is what has been labeled 'The greatest threat to National Security that has ever been discovered' -- ETs!! -- secretly in some Brass Hat circles since the late 40's!!" A spokesperson for ACC further commented: "And the Army and Air Force would have us believe that ET Investigators, people like Phillip Corso, Stanton Friedman, Glen Campbell, Larry Bryant, and radio personalities who cover them, like Art Bell, Jeff Rense, and Mike Jarmus, are unbelievable !!" ACC has decided to quietly retrace its steps to continue its efforts to recreate from drawings in the public sector, technologies that may have been the object of Army and Air Force 'space defense' interest. These recently included drawings of a unique device recreated by ACC and a local University Physicist, which has characteristics previously unseen in the semiconductor field. Among the drawings from a 1947 technical artist, are pictures of a 'coherent light source' - a laser beam drawn at a time 10 years or more before the Laser was officially invented. [W 8]****** Source: Sightings On The Radio URL: http://www.sightings.com/ Jack Shulman Exposes Hidden Ultra-Secret ET Military Organization Stunning Development Revealed on Jeff's Friday Show 20th December 1997 In an EXCLUSIVE breaking story, Jack Shulman, the President of the American Computer Company, announced on Jeff Rense's Sightings On the Radio program, Friday, 12-19-97, that he and his associates have discovered a heretofore ultra secret, UNKNOWN, apparent Black Budget, deeply buried, military organization which deals with, and may direct and operate, our UFO/ET policy. Jeff broke into his regular program at 9:06 pm Pacific to get the story from Shulman, who is deeply involved with what is, so far, perhaps the biggest UFO/ET story since the landmark Roswell event(s) 50 years ago. (see "Jack Shulman And ACC Make It To CNN" and other ACC stories). On the show, Shulman related an amazing string of events which culminated when he and other ACC personnel, along with Investigator/Journalist Bob Wolf, had what amounted to a confrontation with Air Force personnel at the Pentagon. During the course of what was described as a rather heated encounter, Air Force personnel are said to have disclosed accidentally, or otherwise, the existence of this invisible military organization within the Department of Defense THAT NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF BEFORE. Shulman said it is called the Extraterrestrial Space Command Directorate, or simply "E2SCD." As stated, this military group, branch, or operational unit, officially DOES NOT EXIST in any readily locatable government or military archive or database. Jack stated the unit is probably referred to simply as "E2" by those in it or those who have a need to know of its existence. Further, Jack explained to Jeff how when he and his associates were first going through the now famous 'laboratory notebook', which apparently reveals the true origin of the transistor (recovered ET technology), they observed several "E2" notations in the text. Not having any idea what "E2" stood for at the time, Jack and his team of scientists assumed "E2" to be some type of engineering symbol or code. Today's revelation may have solved that mystery and could confirm the existence of this ultra secret elite military UFO organization far at least as long as 50 years ago. Shulman said a thorough search of the Library of Congress and all immediately available government data bases revealed NO DATA on the "Extraterrestrial Electronics Space Directorate", or "E2SCD." In a related issue, Shulman said it now appears the orginal top secret fax that American Computer myteriously received several months ago is now believed by Jack Shulman, at least, to have originated from a satellite which may well belong to, and be operated by, the secret E2 organization. The discovery of such an ultra secret organization lends credence to many years of suspicion and assertions by a number of researchers such as Stanton Friedman that an organization of scientists and key players commonly called "MJ-12" exists, and that it directs the military's deep cover, ultra secret ET program. This story is just beginning. Updates as available. [W 9]****** Source: CNN Date: 16th December 1997 More gray matter for little green men? Most Americans think there's life on other planets Most Americans believe there is life on other planets, and most of those who think that way say life out there probably is more intelligent than anything down here on Earth. Scientists promoting the effort to detect signals from outer space were quick to cheer these is-there-intelligent-life-elsewhere findings from a survey by the Marist Institute for Public Opinion. "I'm happy to hear that the mainstream and I have similar views," said Paul Horowitz, a professor of physics at Harvard who directs a project that operates a 250-million-channel receiver listening for signals from space. "It could be that the American people are taking two and two and coming up with four," said Brian Welch, a spokesman for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. The telephone survey of 935 adults asked, "Do you think there is intelligent life on other planets?" Sixty percent of the respondents said yes; 40 percent said no. Marist researchers then asked those who said yes if they thought life on other planets was "more, less, or about as intelligent as human life on Earth." The aliens came out ahead, with 47 percent of those who believe in life on other plants saying they thought extraterrestrial life was more intelligent, 13 percent said less intelligent and 40 percent said it was about the same. By a margin of 86 to 14, people said they thought galactic neighbors are friendly rather than hostile. Despite the positive expectation of otherworldly life, the survey found Americans divided on spending for the space program. Forty-seven percent said the government was spending too much, 43 percent said funding was about right and 10 percent said it was too low. Asked if they thought the space program was a good investment, 45 percent said yes and 55 percent said the money would be better spent on other programs. The survey was conducted October 5-7, and the results had a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points. Broken down by age, people from 18 through 60 were strongly supportive of the idea of life on other planets. But people older than 60 rejected the idea by a margin of 67 to 33. "The subject has moved a lot in just the last couple of years, said Louis Friedman, executive director of the Planetary Society, whose 100,000 members are strong advocates of continuing research into the possibility of life in outer space. Horowitz said researchers are "riding along on this wave of technological innovation." He said that his project listens on 250 million channels simultaneously. The first serious search for signals from space was in 1960 and had just one channel, he said. [W 10]****** Source: San Francisco Examiner Publish Date: Monday 11th August 1997 NASA flouts Einstein, explores feasibility of interstellar journeys Key to star treks may be found in science fiction by Keay Davidson - Examiner Science Writer In a development straight out of "Star Trek," NASA is looking seriously at the feasibility of flight to the stars. Way-out schemes for traveling to the nearest stars are being assessed by scientists and engineers as part of a low-profile, micro-budget NASA program, dubbed Breakthrough Propulsion Physics. Wormholes, warp drives and other means for interstellar flight - long staples of science fiction - may become science fact, if the researchers get their way. Tuesday through Thursday, more than 80 employees of the space agency and space-related industries will gather at NASA's Lewis Research Center in Cleveland to hear 14 scientists and engineers discuss ways to achieve interstellar flight. Possibilities include the generation of so-called wormholes, something akin to rips in the fabric of space and time. Some physicists have speculated that a spaceship passing through a rip might emerge in a distant part of the cosmos. "We don't even know if these things are physically possible," said the program's chief and sole full-time employee, aerospace engineer Marc Millis of NASA-Lewis. But, Millis added hopefully: "Progress is not made by conceding defeat." Why go to the stars? Among other things, to find habitable planets for humanity, Millis said. "Imagine if we could give citizens access to a whole nother planet Earth," said Millis, 37. "Imagine if there were an uninhabited planet suitable enough to live on." The main barrier to interstellar flight remains Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, which forbids travel at speeds faster than light - 186,000 miles per second. The nearest stars, other than the sun, are four light-years away. A light-year is 6 trillion miles, the distance that light travels in a year. Because of the Einsteinian limit, a spaceship would need at least four years to reach the closest stars, Proxima Centauri and Alpha Centauri. Two scheduled speakers come from the Bay Area - Raymond Chiao of the UC-Berkeley physics department and astrophysicist Bernhard Haisch of Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.'s office in Palo Alto. Haisch is expected to discuss the possibility of space propulsion using something called "the momentum of the quantum vacuum." Chiao plans to discuss how laboratory experiments suggest that under certain circumstances, photons - particles of light - appear to travel "at an effective speed of 1.7 times the speed of light." The program has official liaisons at a number of NASA centers around the nation - for example, Larry Lemke at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View. The proposed technologies "are extremely long shots," cautions one enthusiast, John Cole. He is manager of space transportation research at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama, which funds the program at Lewis. "Theories of this type have cropped up perpetually from time to time," Cole said, "and usually wind up not leading anywhere. . . . But if we don't look, we certainly will never find anything." And the time may be right. "People, particularly young people, are sort of rejecting the claustrophobic position that we are locked in this solar system without any chance at all of going to others," said Whitt Brantley, chief of the advanced concepts office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama. But not everyone at NASA is pleased by talk about star ships. Within the space agency, "the reactions completely cover the entire spectrum," Cole said. "There are those that believe we are about to get NASA embarrassed with some ideas that can't possibly be achieved. "And there are others that are just delighted that NASA is finally open-minded enough, and (has) enough courage - and encouragement from the administrator (Daniel Goldin) - to pursue these things," Cole added. Brantley interjected: "If you look back in history before great discoveries were made, there were great minds trying to show they were impossible." How did an agency packed with conservative engineers get interested in interstellar flight? For one thing, NASA Administrator Goldin made the once-taboo topic acceptable by publicly speculating about it. Also, recent research published "in credible, peer-reviewed (scientific) literature" has made interstellar flight seem more feasible than it did decades ago, Millis said. For example, the warp drive plan is based on an idea proposed by Miguel Alcubierre, an astrophysicist from the University of Wales. He published the method in 1994 in a little-known scientific journal called "Classical and Quantum Gravity." According to one theory of warp drive, one could get around Einstein's speed limit for matter by moving the space around the matter. The space, being non-material, could exceed the speed of light - or so the theory implies. Larry Diehl, director of NASA-Lewis' research and technology directorate, acknowledged with a chuckle that on the Internet, there has been chatter about whether "we are looking to violate the laws of physics. The answer, of course, is "no.' "We haven't made any large-scale commitment to funding work in this area. . . . (Still) if we don't continue to reach out and explore, I don't feel that we make progress," said Diehl, an aerospace engineer who has worked for the agency for three decades. The program's current one-year budget is $50,000 - pennies by NASA's usual gold-plated standards. [W 11]****** Source: CNN Date: Tuesday 6th January 1998 Lunar Prospector blasts off Cape Canaveral, Florida - The unmanned Lunar Prospector blasted off on a 240,000-mile journey into space Tuesday night, beginning NASA's first moon mission since men last set foot on the lunar surface 25 years ago. A sleek, white Lockheed Martin Athena 2 rocket carrying the probe lifted off at 9:28 p.m., successfully negotiating a short, four-minute "launch window," which was all that the Earth-moon alignment allowed. The rocket's three stages dropped away, one after the other, in the first six minutes after the launch, leaving the Lunar Prospector propelled by a thrust module expected to lift it into orbit around the moon after a 4 1/2-day flight. "After 25 years of having not been to the moon by NASA, it certainly feels good to be going back," said program scientist Joseph Boyce. "I couldn't be more excited, more happy, more pleased." The launch was to have taken place Monday night, but a malfunctioning U.S. Air Force radar dish forced a day's delay while technicians spent five hours fixing the problem. The radar is one of three on the Florida coast needed to track the rocket for safety reasons. The launch was rescheduled for Tuesday, but with only the brief launch window. The shifting positions of the Earth and moon meant NASA had only four minutes in which to launch the probe and take advantage of the most fuel-efficient trajectory. Had there been technical or weather difficulties, NASA would have had to wait until February 3 for the Earth and the moon to be in favorable positions again for another try. Searching for water The 4-foot, 650-pound Prospector is to orbit 63 miles above the lunar surface while it searches for ice, gas and minerals. It is expected to focus, in particular, on the moon's south pole, where scientists believe frozen water may have collected from the impact of icy comets. The south pole is the only part of the moon that remains in total darkness. Some scientists believe there could be as much as 1 billion tons of water ice on the moon, a theory bolstered by the findings of the Department of Defense's Clementine spacecraft in 1994. Radar readings taken by the craft appeared to confirm the presence of ice, but some scientists believe that what the probe detected was not ice at all, but simply rough patches on the steep sides of a crater. At $65 million, the Lunar Prospector mission is a bargain-basement special compared to NASA's multi-billion-dollar Apollo project that put 12 men on the moon between 1969 and 1972. Orbiting begins Sunday The craft is equipped with five instruments, including an electronic divining rod that will enable it to detect the hydrogen atoms in water. If there is water on the moon, future pioneers could break it down and separate it into hydrogen and oxygen and make their own rocket fuel. The Prospector could learn within a month whether there is ice on the surface. It will also measure the composition of the surface, detect magnetic fields and map gravitational anomalies in the moon's outer crust. When it runs out of fuel, which should be in about a year, the craft will crash on the moon's surface. |
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From: kevan.farmer@virgin.net | Organisation: Staffordshire UFO Investigation Group Date: 14th November 1997 Request for information May I make a request. I attend a group in Staffordshire - UK, of course - called Staffordshire UFO Investigation Group. We are currently trying to find out about a Roswell like incident that occured in the early 1960's just outside Penkridge, Staffordshire. From a fellow member we know something crashed and that there was a lot of military activity. Roads were blocked off by civilian police - one whom was the father of the fellow group member. We have heard that it was UFO and that another part of the same craft - after breaking up in the atmosphere - crashed in Germany. My request is this, Does anybody know anymore about this case? I believe Mathew Williams - who is a regular speaker at our group is aware of the incident but is as much in the dark as we are. I have tried e-mailing a retired NATO officer who has masterminded a project called Stargate to investigate this kind of thing. As yet I have had no response. |
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A FEARFUL SYMMETRY Copyright 1995 by D. Lynne Bishop | All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical including photocopying, recording or otherwise without prior permission of the publisher, except by a reviewer who may quote brief passages. First Printing September 1995 Printed in the United States of America BOOKFINDER PUBLISHING http://bookfinder.simplenet.com/ Lynne Bishop's home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3862/ --- CHAPTER 9 Following Mother's regression, we all congregated in the office for a debriefing session. Mother had stepped outside, and my sister and I spoke with the hypnotherapist concerning the block she had encountered during her session. Her memory had stopped at the point where the actual confrontation with the alien entities had begun--and it was apparent that whatever lay behind the block could not be retrieved without causing unnecessary pain and anguish to her. Her refusal to go beyond that protective barrier spoke volumes--and even without the details still hidden within her memory, there was a strong suggestion that the facts would have verified my sister's recounting of the abduction. The partial hints that she had dropped throughout--of not knowing where my sister's son was, and feeling that at some point she had been alone--were sufficient evidence of another alien encounter. While speaking with the hypnotherapist, my sister began elaborating on some other fragmentary memories that had been welling up in her conscious mind. Several of these reflected other aspects of the UFO phenomenon. The following is a partial summary taken from the post-hypnosis session transcripts: Laura: There are some things I've been remembering . . . John: And what is that? Laura: Okay, I'm going to tell you one thing. I told my twin sister that I probably went one time. On board. One time. John: What makes you think that? Laura: Um, I just started remembering something . . . kind of. John: What'd you remember? Kind of? Laura: It was just very typical. It's orangey-pink, really. And they laid me on the table, took my nightgown off, and said, "We want to examine your body. We're not going to hurt you." And they examined my body, and that was it. But I was sixteen years old, and I left home after that! John: You left home after that? Laura: Yep! John: Why? Laura: Because of that! (Laugh). Lynne: It's when she went to college. Laura: Uh, huh. I think it may have been that time I described before . . . I might have gone in, but it was really fast. There was nothing hairy about it, or anything. I mean, it was pretty freaky, but . . . John: What triggered that, do you think? Laura: I told my sister about a week ago. I said, "You know what? I think I may have gone in." Lynne: You had also said that to me before, because you had the memory of floating. John: What was orangey-pink, you said? Laura: It's lighted orangey-pink. The room is. I don't really remember any architecture. John: When you remembered this, how did you feel? Laura: I felt really freaked out. John: You say you left home because of this? Laura: Uh, huh. John: Well, what kind of thoughts were you having? Laura: My thought was, when you start thinking you've been abducted by UFO people . . . now this is me at sixteen . . . It's like, it's time to leave home if you're starting to think this kind of weird stuff. John: And that's actually your conscious reason . . . ? Laura: It was the motivating factor. Yes, it really was. John: And then you forgot that was the reason you left? Laura: Yeah. Isn't that weird? 'Course, after I went to college, I had a good time, and forgot all about it. I'm trying, now, to remember consciously what their voices sound like, 'cause that way, if it ever happens again, maybe I'll have a better . . . maybe I won't lose so much. Lynne: That's what I've been hoping for . . . not to lose so much. John: You mean, whether their voices are high, low or medium pitched? Laura: Uh, huh. So that, if I ever hear it in my head again, I'll know . . . John: What do you mean, hear it in your head? Laura: Well, because they don't . . . It's not like this. You know that. It's not like how people talk. I've been really trying to remember how they said it, 'cause it's very black-and-white; very cut-and-dried. It's like a doctor, really. There was no . . . emotion. I don't remember any mind-things. It was just like going to the doctor. John: Do you remember what they examined? Laura: Oh, yeah! It was the bottom half. And maybe they thought I was a reject. Said it wasn't gonna work, forget it, and that's that. John: But you consciously remember at sixteen, that you're leaving home 'cause you're having too many crazy thoughts? And you actually thought you'd been abducted by a UFO? Laura: Right. Exactly. John: That's interesting. Well, that really adds into the whole picture. Laura: And I was going to tell you one other thing . . . even though I said I was only going to tell you one thing. Did anyone else in the family tell you about our cat that had the animal mutilation? John: No, they haven't. Laura: Well, we had one. You know, I went to two UFO seminars in Eureka Springs, and then I quit going, because they always seemed to be the same. And you know Linda Moulton Howe? John: Uh, huh. Laura: You know, the mutilations that she tells about? Well, I had a cat that had one. It was at our house, and I went and got the family, and said, "God, you all have to come see this cat!" We all looked at it, and it had this weird hole. Lynne: The cookie-cutter hole. John: Any blood? Laura: No. It had all boiled out, or something. You could see all the muscle. It was really strange looking. We thought it had been struck by lightning. John: About what age would you have been? Laura: About the same age. Young teens. Lynne: I think I mentioned to you (the hypnotherapist) that my sister was very into cats, and I was very into horses. The cat-thing would have been the equivalent, to her, of my love of horses. John: Yeah. (To my sister) . . . Can you describe, again, what you saw when your sister was burying that thing by the tree? Laura: It was a light, pale-blue glow, all over her face. All over her body, really. John: Had you ever seen anything like that before? Laura: I don't think I'd seen that before. John: What else are you not telling me? Laura: I can't remember anything else, but I'm making an effort. I'll make notes for you. At this point, Mother returned to the room, and after a brief discussion about her memory block, a short discussion continued: John: Did you ever tell your mom why you left home at sixteen? Laura: Uh, no. John: (Spoken to my mother) . . . Do you remember why she left home at sixteen? Frances: Well, she had enough credits--why not? Laura: Well, this has just surfaced in the last week. Remember that first memory I had . . . in my first session . . . I finally remembered I had been on board one time. They had examined me, and when I woke up, I had an acute panic attack. And I thought to myself, "You know, it's kinda time to boogie on." I felt like if I were going to have this type of thing go on, it was time to go live a normal life somewhere else. So, I went to college and had a great time. I was going to be a nurse . . . Can you believe that? John: And this is the house that was "sometimes" there, when the policeman would go by . . . Lynne: In fact, Mother always used to make the comment that there was a "protected circle" around the house. John: Any other family secrets? (Laugh). Lynne: We also have a pet deer that visits all the time. Frances: Yeah. It comes up on the porch and eats cat food and bird seed. Lynne: It's a real deer. It belongs to some people across the road. Laura: And Mom's seen lights going by her window . . . Lynne: And shadows, too. John: Tell me more about that. Frances: Oh, a couple times in the past year . . . I saw two white globes of light zip past the windows. The highway is east of the house, about 400 or 500 feet away. John: Do you notice any electrical effects, at all? Frances: The lights have always been out, when I saw the globes. But we have electrical problems all the time. (This statement included comments regarding fuses and transformers.) John: Now, what about the shadows that you've seen? Frances: Oh, those are the little men who run by my front door. They're probably about four feet tall. As we left the office, our group was somewhat subdued. In many ways, we had opened up further avenues of discussion, but the block Mother had encountered had cast a pall over the proceedings. On the drive home, the subject returned often to her inability to break through the block. During the hypnotic regression, she had exhibited signs of irritation frequently, and coupled with the blank wall she'd run into, her mood was somber. She berated herself for having the block, and was puzzled about its origins. Although we were aware that the memory lapse had occurred at the point where the abduction would have taken place, there seemed no point in causing her further anguish by revealing even a partial reason for the block. Whatever memories lay behind that wall, it seemed best to allow them to remain hidden. She was not pleased by our silence on the subject. In the next few weeks, we took a brief respite from the fast pace, deciding that a return to our regular, routine existence was in order. The Midwest Conference on UFOs had been set for September 18 - 20, and all of my family members planned to attend. The roster of speakers for the convention was eyecatching, with a notable speaker arranged on every facet of the UFO phenomenon. Of particular interest to me was the fact that Budd Hopkins would be attending--and I was anxious to hear his presentation. Noted for his research in the field of alien abduction, this artist and author's work and findings have been widely quoted, and are held in high esteem by many other researchers. The chance to hear him in person seemed a golden opportunity, and one that I couldn't pass up. Springfield, Missouri, is a thriving mid-western city, while still managing to maintain a small-town friendliness. With each visit, I was becoming more enamored. Having lived many years in a rural area, the proximity of culture, entertainment--and the inevitable shopping--was a heady brew to my senses. I looked forward to the Conference as an extension of that feeling. My husband and I drove up a day early, and met with my family members on the 18th. My brother had decided to attend, even though he had remained completely skeptical of the entire phenomenon throughout our sessions. It appeared that nothing short of being tapped on the back by an alien was going to convince him that it wasn't all a part of delusion, illusion, or out-and-out fabrication. My hope was that the preponderance of evidence to the contrary would be presented here, and that each of us would be able to accept the phenomenon, regardless of what was causing it. Budd Hopkins's speech was eloquent and persuasive, as he related the story of an abduction witnessed by many, credible witnesses. Triangulation of the site of the abduction was possible due to the locations of these witnesses, who observed a woman floating out of a high-rise apartment building into a waiting craft above. During the several years that had passed since the occurrence, many of these witnesses had come forward on their own, to relate their memories to Hopkins. With each testimony added to the case, the weight of evidence was worthy of regard as being potentially one of the most important abductions on record. And, the crowning element was the fact that one of the alleged witnesses to the event was a high-ranking political figure. Mr. Hopkins's hope, along with probably a good percentage of the audience that day, was that this political personage would one day step forward and admit he had observed the abduction. On the final day of the Conference, I had the opportunity to meet with a group of abductees. Mr. Hopkins had graciously consented to join our group for an informal discussion. During this meeting, I noticed a man slip into the room and take a chair. He listened quite avidly to the animated conversation, as each person added a thought or conclusion to the round-table discussion. After an interval, he spoke also. He related a personal tale that had nothing to do with alien abductions, and then asked if anyone present knew who Circe was. Having always been interested in Greek mythology, I answered that she was a sorceress who had turned Odysseus's companions into swine. He smiled from his chair across the room, and then responded by adding that no one should ever quit looking for answers. With this scintillating advice, he stood up and left the room. As he exited, I thought, "Who was that 'masked man?'" The meeting drew to an end, and all the fears and uncertainty I'd borne over the past months rushed in on me. I broke into tears, crying for my loss of innocence and feeling stranded in a world gone mad. Mr. Hopkins, who had been seated to my right, spontaneously reached toward me and hugged me. No words could have done more--his compassionate gesture showing the bond between human beings broke through all barriers and my healing began. Strange happenings seemed to be the focal point of that final day. As my husband and I prepared to leave for the long drive home, we discovered that Air Force One would be landing momentarily. An advance guard had already arrived and was peremptorily taking over the premises. I was amused that President Bush would campaign so close to Arkansas--and not step foot over the border. I became very amused when I considered what his entourage must have thought about a seditious group of UFO buffs in the very hotel the President was going to be staying at. Somehow, the thought of that was more delightful than if I could have seen a live UFO at that point. Then, I began wondering if it was mere chance that had placed the President there that day--or the workings of a higher authority. It was definitely food for thought! |
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