EDERMANIGER Chart 0600

This is a Chart for Richard Higgs Edermaniger and Elizabeth Walford

 

married
25th December 1831
St Michael, Bassishaw
London
witnesses
William
HADSWELL
Elizabeth
ATKINS

  

2RICHARD HIGGS EDERMANIGER
baptised
6th September 1795
St Giles
Cripplegate, London
occupation
1841 Ivory Turner
died
June quarter 1865
Newington district
London

   2ELIZABETH WALFORD
born about
1800
(not in Surrey)


2,4Emily
EDERMANIGER
born about
31st May 1821 
(not Surrey)
baptised
30th June
1837
St Andrew
Holborn
London

married
1st July 1844
St Peters
Walworth
Surrey
witnesses
G S
EDERMANIGER
W A
PASTORELL
Thomas John Fortunatus PASTORELL
born about
1822
St Andrew
Holborn
London
occupation
1851
Glass Blower

 2Lawrence
EDERMANIGER
born  
28th October 1828 
Middlesex, London
baptised
30th June 1837
St Andrew
Holborn, London
occupation  
1881
Engine Fitter
address 1881
22 Upper Constance Street
West Ham, Essex
died before
1891

married
6th July 1857
St Luke
Old Street
Middlesex
witnesses
William
???
Margaret
GREEN
1Emily Dorcas
GREEN
born 1834
Epsom
 Surrey
occupation 1881
formerly
Dressmaker 		2Jane
EDERMANIGER
born
4th June 1830  
baptised
30th June
1837
St Andrew
Holborn
London

 

 

 2,3Richard Higgs
EDERMANIGER
born
23rd April 1832
baptised
30th June
1837
St Andrew
Holborn
London
occupation
1851
Engine Fitter
1871
Engine Fitter
died
September quarter
1901
Lambeth district
Surrey

married(1)
18th
December
1844
St Mary
Newington
Surrey
witnesses
R H
EDERMANIGER
S DEWAR
Theodosia
Martha
DEWAR

married(2)
???
banns
5th April 1857
St Mary
Lambeth
Sarah
DEWAR
née
???

married(3)
19th April 1862 
St Mary Lambeth
  Surrey 
witnesses
Margaret
SIPSON
Sarah
PAULIN
Lydia Harriett DAVIS 		2Mary Ann
EDERMANIGER
born
12th November 1832 
baptised
30th June
1837
St Andrew
Holborn
London

possibly
married
quarter
1873
St George
Hanover 
Square
Henry
PAUL
born about
1830
Cam??
Dorset
occupation
1881
Gardener

no issue on
1881
Census
 2Alfred
EDERMANIGER
born
 24th February 1835 
baptised
24th May 1835
St Andrew
Holborn
London		 2Walter
EDERMANIGER
born
27th February 1837
baptised
19th March 1837
St Andrew
Holborn
London

married
26th June 1866
St Peter
Newington
Walworth
Surrey
witnesses
John DACKOMBE
Ellen Sarah ATCHLEY
Susanna Jane 
DACKOMBE
 Elizabeth
Grace
EDERMANIGER
born
28th March 1839 
baptised
14th April
1839
St Peter
Walworth
Surrey
died
2nd August 1840 
 2Edward
David
EDERMANIGER
born
2nd January 1841
baptised
24th January
1841
St Peter
Walworth
Surrey

married
25th October
1863
St George
Camberwell
Surrey
witnesses
C STEVENS
J EDWARDS
Sarah Ann
(LASLY)
LASLEY
  1. As I have no children down for Lawrence and Emily I have not had to put a chart in for them. As I have more information from the 1891 Census to add, I will therefore do it in Note form. By the 1891 Census Lawrence must have died as Emily is the Head of the Household Age 62 and again down as a Dressmaker. Address 32 Parker Street, West Ham. Living with her were Herbert Thomas FISHER (12) Nephew born Gibraltar, Mary Ann MITCHELL (15) Niece born Plumstead, Kent. There were also three boarders and two lodgers, Sydney Ernest Blake, (33) Engine Smith born London, Matthew Dickie (22) Engine Fitter born Scotland, Kilmarnock, Arthur Critell (18) Carpenter as Boarders and Frederick Tho.? Paynter (19) Wood Turner, Alnwick, Northumberland and Charles Duckhurst (41) Solid Rubber Curer, Manningham, Yorks.
  2. 1841 Census - Browton Place, St Mary, Newington, Surrey. Having found the baptism dates which for six of the children was the same, the 1841 Census is the first clue of which order they were born in. However as the ages could be within the nearest five years especially as they got older, I can put in a sort of order but still not know exactly when they were born. Again they all do not appear on the Census. I also have a problem with the marriage date and the birth of the children and I am beginning to think that the marriage we have is for a second marriage as some of the children according to the 1841 census were born well before the marriage. On the Census the ages are as follow, Emily 20 Richard 15, Lawrence 14, (but placed after Mary)  Jane 12, Mary 10, Alfred 7, Walter 5 and Edward 3. The birth and baptism dates are from the IGI which do not match the information on the Census. Emily both on the IGI and the Census appears to have been born 10 years before Richard and Elizabeth married. The IGI have Richard and Mary Ann born in the same year with only about 6 and a half months between the births, so something wrong with this.
  3. 1871 Census - 3 Garden Cottages, Kennington, Lambeth, London (Richard is down as being 46 on this Census, so this would make him born in 1825 not 1832 as we have it from the IGI. It is possible therefore that this is not the correct Richard, but there are a lot of questions above about this. I think it is the correct Richard and he was born a lot earlier than shown. I have now found him on the 1851 Census, again born about 1824 and married to a Theodosia Martha, I know she died in 1852, so he married again. Richard and Theodosia had two children on the 1851 Census Richard 3 and John 1, born Southwark, Surrey. This does not explain the Charles born in 1857 on Edermaniger Chart 0502. I also think that Richard Higgs Edermaniger had a previous marriage to the one with Elizabeth Walford above, as we now have a possibility of four children born before they were married, this is already picked up with my note about the 1841 Census. Richard and Theodosia were living at 28 Herberts Road, Southwark on the 1851 Census. It does help in some respects as I keep picking up a Richard EDERMANIGER born 1848 which with the first child of Richard and Theodosia we now have one.
  4. 1851 Census - 16 ????, Old Street, St Lukes, Middlesex. They had three children on this Census, George 5 born Islington, Middlesex, Forties??? 3 born St Andrews, Middlesex and Thomas 1 born St Lukes, Middlesex
  5. South HInksey, Oxfordshire. I am certain this is correct, everything ties up although in Oxfordshire Mary is the correct age and born in Holborn, London. The BMD gave two alternative marriages and Henry PAUL comes ups with Mary on this Census.

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