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Interview with Bob O'Hare,
Chelwood Avenue, Childwall, Liverpool.
Bob and Brenda O'Hare
Bob O'Hare originally comes from Anfield.
He and his wife Brenda ran the B and B Food Store on Chelwood Avenue for 25 years until March 2005. Originally Bob worked for the Crossville Bus Company and then ran a mobile, (large van with groceries for sale) in the Bell Vale area before eventually buying the B and B food store.
"It's actually 25 years since we first opened the shop. Before then I worked on the Crossville and Bowring Park Road was a dual carriageway. We would travel all the way from the Pier head to Prescot. At the Rocket Pub junction in the 1960s there were two roundabouts, where the present Rocket Pub stands today there used to be an older pub and there used to be a men only bar in it! The Navy Club has always been there as far as I can remember where that is now you've got the big bridge going over, in the past that was a much smaller bridge with just 2 lane traffic, it was known locally as Hunters Bridge, because Hunters cooked meats used to be where the Rocket Trading Estate is now.

Driving down to the traffic lights where they are today there was an old pub there called the Broad Green Abbey and it was right on the corner at Thomas lane which also had a men only bar in it. Over the other side of the present M62 Motorway there were very large Victorian style houses backing on to the railway embankment. When I actually moved into the shop all those places had gone, many demolished when the M62 Motorway was built.
Rocket Pub
Rocket Pub 1973
Broad Green Abby
Broad Green Abbey

I can remember many years ago there use to be a large school at the bottom of Chelwood Road and corner of Childwall Valley Road. It was Childwall Valley High School for girls and we used to get a lot of the girls come in at dinner time for sandwiches, crisps and pop. Also at that time workers from Vernon's Pools, based in Court Hey Park used to come in to the shop for their sandwiches and groceries. We used to get a lot of people in from Vernon's at that time.

Childwall Valley High School
Childwall Valley High School

There used to be a firm known as Lucas up by where the Turnpike Pub is now and we also used to get a lot of customers in from there.

But eventually both Vernons and the Lucas factory workers were gone, and so we had fewer customers, but on Vernons old site they decided to build 60 houses (Grangewood Estate) and I thought they would come into the shop but it didn't work out that way.

On Lucas's old site they where going to build a Kwik Save but the local residents got a petition to stop it and as it turned out the Turnpike Pub was built there, and on the old girls school site around 1987 they started to build a new estate of 400 houses, and as they were being built lots of workers would come into the store. I thought once the 400 houses were completed I would get a few more customers because they were close to the shop but again unfortunately the majority had cars and went elsewhere.


Chelwood Avenue Shops. click to enlarge
The shop I'm in now used to be owned by a Mrs Scully and she owned quite a lot of the shops around here, up until a few years ago she lived in the area. The shop was originally run by a firm called Brook's of Bold Street, they had quite a few shops all over the city. One was in Bold Street and another one was in west Derby village.

The outside of the shop used to have a small delivery road serving all this block of shops, it was a through road from Bowring Park Road to Chelwood Avenue, and was basically only for vehicles delivering to the shops along here. The same thing was on the other side of Chelwood road shops at that time, until later when the council decided to make the opposite side into a small car park for about five cars and it's been like that for around 20 years.

On this side of the road outside this shop there used to be a grass verge and you would get cars parking on both sides which would block the road outside the shops on this side many a time, that's the way it was for years and years.

About 20 years ago Mr Gould had a chemist's on the Bowring Park Road corner which is now a sun bed shop, and upstairs he would also sell or rent aqua diving equipment. When Mr Gould went Mr Shar took over and after about 4 years he then sold the shop to a Mr Morgan who then sold the shop onto Mr Porter, many years later he would move to Hartsboune Avenue Clinic where he still is now (2005).

There used to be Doctors in Bowring Park Road, near the chemist and when the doctors closed down they put 'Porta cabins' (a large portable office) on the green outside the shops and that then became the doctors surgery, the electricity supply ran over in to the chemist shop. They stayed there for about 4 years and until it became a green again and the council put it what looked like giant staples into the edge of the green to prevent cars from parking and blocking the road again.The Butchers shop has also been here for many years on this side of the road as well as the Post Office.

20 years ago over on the other side of the road the off-licence was the old fashioned type, were customers would get served over the counter and they used to have kegs of ale there were you would get ale straight from the box, the shop now called 'Lets Party', has been run by many people, before it was a flower shop, a chandlers and a used T.V. shop but was originally owned by a fellow called Williams and it was a very good fruit and vegetable shop.

The hairdressers was there like it is today, Cathy's been there for about 18 years and the newsagents have always been there also.

 
B and B Shop Sign
As far as buying stock for the shop was concerned, when we first started out we used to go to a cash and carry warehouse, the main one is out of business now and was at the back of the Hartley's Jam factory in Long Lane Aintree, and it was called Lonsdale and Thomas and we would trade there for 4 or 5 years, then they opened this cash and carry in the racehorse industry estate called Parrfits cash and carry, and so we went there after Lonsdale closed down.

I use to go to the market in Edge Lane around 6.30 am in order to stock the shop for the day. I also used to buy bacon from a firm from Widnes and in those days you had to bone the bacon out yourself, so although I wasn't a qualified butcher I did learn to bone out bacon for the convenience of our customer's and we would use a big bacon slicing machine out in the garage at the back of the shop.

You had to bone out bacon in those days, we would sell shanks, slices of gammon, brawn, bacon ribs, I remember everything was a lot cheaper in those days, bacon that would cost £2. 20 a pound today would only cost 99 p in those days, pork pies would cost only sell at 19 pence and a two pound bag of sugar for 45 pence. For sausages there where chipolatas, tomatoes, Cumberland, pork and then beef, we also used to sell about 90 dozen eggs a week years ago and now (2005), it's a lot less.

Bob stocking the shopBrendaMeat counter

Photographs taken early 1990s click to enlarge

Things have changed quite a bit since I first started out and there have been some interesting times as well.

For instance Brookside Producer Phil Redmond phoned me a few years back. (Brookside was a soap drama) Out of the blue one day he rang the shop and he asked; do you watch Brookside and I said my wife watches it, I said is this a wind up?, he said they have a new set going with shops and what we are doing is starting a new character called Bev and he asked if I could tell him how the VAT (Value Added Tax) is worked out on the till and so I told him!

Another day Terry out of Brookside came in a couple of times and bought some bacon, (Mersey T.V. studios are only down the road near Childwall Abby) and he and also Barry Grant who has also been in Liverpool One and The Bill, called in, I remember another lad called in the shop for his groceries, that was Mick, I thought he was a very good actor.

The shop has also been used as a set for a Hollyoaks programme (Channel 4 / Mersey T. V. soap drama still aired in 2005). A few years ago we were contacted by Mersey T.V. and they asked if they could use the shop for an episode and so they came along, and Brenda and I closed the shop up while they set up their film set with lights and wires everywhere, two large outside broadcast vans were parked at the back of the shop all day while the interior of the shop was set up to look like there had been a fire with lots of smoke.

An actor lay on the floor for what seemed like hours while they filmed. Two other actors stood outside the shop then on cue they raced in to rescue the man on the floor. They took over four hours for a shot that lasted about thirty seconds!

Hollyoaks tv episode
Also a few years a go on a Saturday morning four girls came into the shop and Brenda my Wife made them some fresh sandwiches, I think they were going into town to meet someone about a singing contract, we said don't forget us when you get famous-they said thanks and then left and got into a car with a lady driver, 6 months down the line they then became a pop group called Atomic Kitten.

As I said before there have been many changes in this area over the years; the next generation of customers probably won't have any shops like this one in the future. I would take a customer's order and drop the groceries off if they lived locally.

Now I've decided to close the shop after 25 years and make life a lot easier for me and Brenda. We'll miss the shop, our friends and all our customers."

Bob O'Hare. Recorded in March, 2005.

B and B Food Store 1979-2005

Message to Bob and Brenda.

Dear Bob and Brenda B.B.,
Just a line to wish you both well and to let you know what your corned shop has meant to us over the past 16 years.
The promise of going to Bob's shop always guaranteed a response.
Lost shoes always found, hats and gloves on nearly the right child.
I often got taken for a child minder but it was only me and my gang of five. On our daily trip to Bobs either for fresh Roberts bread-they were convinced the Bob baked it himself and long after they started school they only had Bob's bread for a packed lunch. We would call in on our way to the park for the stuff to have a picnic, or on our way home for cake mix and ice cream.

The kids learnt to count by moving all the tins of spaghetti and beans and soup around the shelves, much to Bobs delight but he kept his cool at least while we were in the shop. We would have a constant supply of boxes, that once we got them home would become garages or dolls houses.
Long before the kids arrived Bob took me with him to the market on several occasions for flowers to make the button holes for my daughter's weddings.

We once had a young visitor from America who was fascinated with the corner shop, my grandchildren were very proud to take her into Bobs because they knew were every thing was. Try that in one of the supermarkets. Along with the lollypop from the butcher and the good humour and patience
allowing them to learn and communicate with adults, to say nothing of the talking Christmas tree, the shop has been part of their childhood and will be missed.

We wish you loads of luck - Margaret and the Gang of Five

All photographs copyright Wendy and Dave Roberts.
Rocket Pub, Broad Green Abbey and Childwall Valley High School Pictures © Edward Barker, (1991) 'In and around BroadGreen', Childwall, Liverpool ISBN 0951846302
Hollyoaks screen capture © Channel four tv.

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